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Starting point is 00:01:25 That movie messed me up. I mean. or did that flip you out as much as me definitely not I was like Rocks is really going through it right now you didn't feel what I felt during this movie I think we have sometimes we are very much a lot

Starting point is 00:01:42 I was really into it but you were like on the edge of your you're having it I think like what is it about it that was getting to you so much that I mean tell me the why the whys

Starting point is 00:01:54 the reasons it felt okay it was so slow in the best way possible in terms of like they wanted to toy with us and like it was agonizing you don't know what's going to happen you don't know to what extent she'll go you just know she's kind of creepy but throwing in the flashbacks and having it be with animals and kids and like also having us dislike the older generation because all the messed up things they did but then taking it out on the kids. It's, man, that just like, ooh, and then the sewing of the mouth, the iron to the body, just banging, hitting her Mercedes with the car.

Starting point is 00:02:43 That was tough. That was a tough one for you. That was a great movie. I thought that movie was excellent. Did that not have an unreap? To me, that should have a crazy good Rotten Tomato score. It doesn't. No

Starting point is 00:02:59 That's stupid People are stupid That movie's excellent Let's look it up That's mean of me But that movie is excellent I mean like I think that movie

Starting point is 00:03:09 Did exactly what it set out to do Which was just a toy with us For 90 minutes Yeah It felt like a two hour movie How long was it Hour 35? You're just typing in her name

Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah because when you type in Ma Like a billion other things Come up that or not Ma Because I always see MAA And I think Massachusetts 55% And a 64 audience score. I'm shocked it's not higher than that.

Starting point is 00:03:32 That's shocking. Octavia, we go back up. Octavia Spencer's performance overpowers many of Ma's flaws, but even uneven pacing and a labored story keep this thriller from fully realizing its unhinged potential. So you agree. You think it has potential. I think that I'm trying to. properly formulate. I really enjoyed it. I didn't love it to the degree you did. I really, really enjoyed it. I liked it a lot. Are you worried that if you don't say you love it

Starting point is 00:04:06 to the degree I did? I'm going to call you stupid. I'm used to a woman calling me stupid. I don't think that at all about you. I think you're entitled to your opinion. And yet, I think this movie was so good. Yeah, I think it's really good. The part, there's, I can't quite find the words for what is it that didn't quite, maybe something in the, the, the actual. actual atmosphere of it that didn't quite it was like obvious that it was I love I really enjoyed the first half and I actually before we knew what the movie was kind of before we knew for sure yeah and there was something about the the switch I'm back and forth about the switch like is the switch the hitting of Mercedes yeah yeah but it seems to me that she maybe killed alison janey

Starting point is 00:04:53 prior to actually killing Mercedes um because I what I love about it is you don't see that coming like when she's in the cage where uh no no hitting mercedes whereas i think in other movies the first big kill they make like a big transformation moment out of it where it's more obvious that it's about to happen whereas here it when it happens like whoop didn't see that go shit what just happened um that that snap internally and i i i i don't really Maybe I'll discover while we're talking about it because, but right now in this media moment, I could think about the things that are really liked and main thing would be Octavia Spencer. She's so good.

Starting point is 00:05:36 I cared about her. And the movie, depending on where you placed her in the scene, I would care about her and then be like, oh, no, she's the devil. Then, oh, I care about it. You could have one moment where you're like, oh, these guys are a bunch of dicks to her. And then you see her with an animal and you're like, oh, no, she's a horrible human being. She should be put down herself, you know? I thought the movie did a great job at getting you back and forth. And it's a really unique plot, too.

Starting point is 00:06:00 It is very, very strong. Yeah. I think it's cool that what we watched was not premeditated in terms of, like, she was not seeking out these kids, I don't believe. It seems like she was asked to do the, hey, mister, she looks at the, she says no, she was going to keep going with her life. Then she looks at the car. She sees who's van it is. she knows it's Luke Evans company and she just decides like in that moment okay yeah this is the way that my this is what I'm going to do um and that was interesting and then us trying to figure out the entire time why why uh okay I need to know where that guy comes over I told you I had a million questions and let's go through it you don't even care about my questions I do care about your questions um which guy we're talking about um the Andy no yeah yeah Andy. I'm looking.

Starting point is 00:06:56 Oh, you haven't pulled up. I don't, there it is. Corey Fogel Manus. No, I need to know who it is. Yeah, Corey Fogelman. He's in something I watched, like. Girl Meets World? Nope, it's not that.

Starting point is 00:07:09 Oh, my life with the Walter Boys. Do you watch that? Yeah, obviously I watch my life with the Walter Boys. Yeah, I have no idea what that is. What? Okay, I got to look up with this director is. Okay, yeah, because you're curious about that. I'm curious about a lot of things.

Starting point is 00:07:25 You're right. It's hard to type in Ma. Yeah, he had a lot of, like, different things that are nothing to do. Even after I do the space, come on. How do I find it, Octavia? Yeah, he directed the help. He really did? Which is what...

Starting point is 00:07:39 Wait, he must be an actor because I've seen him in things, no? And Octavia Spencer won the Oscar for the help. That's crazy. What a friend, like, such a different film to do. I don't know if I got a mind-blowing. Maybe Octavia, like, pitched it to him or something. I don't know. How did this come to be for it?

Starting point is 00:08:01 Because. Okay, Diana Silvers, who's the main girl in this. Oh, she's hoping book smart, which I love. She's in glass. She's a cheerleading girl. Okay, maybe you knew her from that. I didn't see Ava, Birds of Paradise, Space Force. Did you watch that?

Starting point is 00:08:19 No, no. Okay, she's in 17 episodes of Space Force, which I didn't see. but you said you had recognized her Yeah, she's not in the movie I thought she was in. Oh, bummer for you. Corey Fogelmanus yeah, for sure

Starting point is 00:08:33 it's got to be my life with the Walter boys, right? Oh, Taylor was the cop. Oh, yeah. I was like, I recognize him. Yeah. That's cool. Put yourself in your movies. He's Nathan Walter.

Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah, that's why. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. That lines up. That all lines. It all lines up, Greg. Yeah. It did make, the movie made perfect sense, which I was worried at some point there was going to be like, it didn't make sense why we're here, why we're going after these people. I do think that we could have done something more with Allison Janney's role if I'm being nitpicky.

Starting point is 00:09:07 She could have had some kind of deeper connection or something because she's the only one who it's really like, why did she do that? Yeah, I just think that when it got to the part where she became kind of like a psychopath, that'll, that's for some of the uniqueness of what we. were watching seemed to kind of wither away a little fast for me like it's fun to watch because i like watching i go crazy and i like watching violence so it's fun to watch at the same time it it was like okay i guess we're just doing the thing that they do like we're going through the beats now of what happens where you that's where i think you and i were having a very big difference of feelings here because you were like freaking out and i was like that's just a little bit trite the way this is going when they sold the mouth shot when they put yeah i don't i don't expect

Starting point is 00:09:53 that shit to happen but it's still you were freaking out no i just i i wasn't that invested in the kids like i was i was super duper invested in a couple of them i was not that invested in haley i was not that invested in chas and i was not that invested in um darrell but the two andy and the main girl yeah um i was like really really invested in them and i thought that they still did a good job of having characters like like that random girl that was always asleep actually yeah yeah it's fun that was fun things like that and oh and i was super invested in the daughter um that was stuck upstairs yeah i i think what was happened sometimes the movie to me i couldn't quite tell if they were if it was a time seeming a little bit at odds with itself

Starting point is 00:10:47 of wanting to be like this serious psychological thriller or like a fun, campy horror movie. I didn't feel that. All right, yeah. And I love that for me that I didn't feel that. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. You know, like, if you, I played this for me,

Starting point is 00:11:06 if you hadn't told me anything beforehand, you had played this for me, and then you had just said to me, how do you think this did? I would have said, I think this has like an 85%. okay yeah i'm actually like more at uh if i were to rate it myself off the bat i would probably give it like a 75 yeah so you're above rot tomatoes i love the rod tomatoes i'm above the audience scoring it i would say you're below me yeah i am less than you that's what i'm saying i like

Starting point is 00:11:33 the main girl a lot i appreciate it the dynamics uh i mean i'm making it sound like i don't like this movie because there's a lot i did like i love the dynamics between you just take the keyboard if you want. I just was seeing if they're actually related because honestly that girl who played Juliette Lewis's daughter

Starting point is 00:11:47 like remind me so much of her. I love the dynamics between Juliet Lewis and Diana Silver's like all times when they's like

Starting point is 00:11:57 move into a different small town it's usually so heavy in the drama between the tension with them or it's they're just completely get along and I thought

Starting point is 00:12:06 they weaved in and out of something that felt a lot more nuanced. I really felt like these two performers had a good grip on it and probably i don't know just with the kind of talent that tay tay taylor seems to attract he seems like the kind of guy who works on the on the characters with his actors or lets the actors

Starting point is 00:12:22 work together and let that evolve the script or scenes in a way like that's just the vibe that i get with a couple of movies i've seen from even from this movie i would say that you know to to attract actors like you know octavia octavia lukevins alison janey juliet louis yeah to like the ensemble here of of a lot of these actors who are known to be, like, great, talented actors, it would, it appears to me that he is, and the fact that he's an actor himself, I think he's really great at pulling that out of people.

Starting point is 00:12:54 So I think the performances here are really strong, and I thought, even when it came to, you know, Juliet Lewis or Luke Evans, at times it was going, I wonder why they specifically got them. And then you would see some more of the big scenes that would come out. You're like, all right, yeah, there's the, There's the tail. There's the reason they're a cast right here. Really strong stuff. All right, Reject Nation. So today I want to share something with you that has been a wonderful

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Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah. He's like... Nice turn. Yeah. That was kind of why I was like, oh, that is why they got him. Okay. Because it's seemed like kind of they didn't need him. The only one I still wonder why they got them is Alice and Janney. She was a butt. I feel like this movie was a little cut down. It might have been. I mean, it was like it seemed like a 90 minute, 95 minutes. So they might have cut it down.

Starting point is 00:17:24 This one woman who I really, really recognize is probably because she has 200 credits on IMDB. She's in everything. Which is really, truly wild, Missy Pyle. She's been around forever. Having 200 credits on IMDB, you a stud. Like, way to be it. true working actress what else did taylor do other than the help he did the girl on the train oh huh that's interesting so yeah i mean also to get on up with chadwick bozeman

Starting point is 00:17:52 which i have not seen i have um i haven't seen the girl on the train neither have i oh good good i want to see i've seen two of his movies he's directed 13 movies let's see and Really? It's what it says. Oh, Ava, okay. That was what the girl in this, the lead girl in this. She had also been in that, so that must be where. Cool.

Starting point is 00:18:18 Oh, no, I guess that came after this. Get on Up, The Help, Pretty Ugly People, Chicken Party. Do you know any of that? Oh, he directed some of Grace and Frankie. I love that show. I think he did a really great job in this because I did not know what was coming next. I thought it all made sense. I thought the music was excellent.

Starting point is 00:18:38 I thought the characters were great. Yeah, I think that I like him. I like Taylor, too. Did he write it? And I like the, I really like the what the F element of the first half where you're going. I don't know why this lady's so obsessed, but I really want to find out. And it made sense once we did find out. Oh, no, he didn't write it.

Starting point is 00:19:02 Scotty Landis. Yeah, it did make sense when we finally got the revelation of it. I think it lacked, and with the main character, too, I think there was like an extra, I think this movie was just missing one little extra character punch for me in some way. Because even, that's why I think that line was so weird that we, when we're watching it, when the main girl says, I'm not my mom or whatever. That line didn't play. And it's not just that it's a bad, weird line.

Starting point is 00:19:31 It's like, this line doesn't even really make sense. Yeah, that was the one part of the movie that didn't make sense. She says I'm weak, I'm not weak like my mom. And they're treating it like. this is her arc you know that's what that's clearly the beat of character arc and i just went there going what are they talking about right now what did i did we miss something entirely or is this something that was on the cutting room floor that that's allowing this moment to feel fleshed out and for for this descent to happen and and i think uh i wanted her to be like my mom didn't help you but i

Starting point is 00:20:01 can help your daughter that that could have been good too yeah it's kind of lengthy you know It might need some work shopping, but, like, that seemed like the, her mom was part of the problem when it came to Ma as kids, but she's part of the solution and helping the daughter. And the daughter helped her. You know, that seemed to me, the one line, I can't, I can't argue with you on that. That one line, you and I both looked at each other like, what? I think it could have really pushed, I would have liked it to, like, push the envelope just a tad. I think they should have killed off, like, half the kids. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:35 But what about the animals? Oh, hell no. Then that I would be totally upset with the movie. And that dog almost died. I need you to care about children as much as you care about animals. I think humans have really ruined life for animals. This was a shared planet and we have just corrupted them and we take advantage of terrible things to animals. What do you think of get home safe?

Starting point is 00:20:59 That's the marketing for Ma. That's brilliant. You like it? Yeah, it's like when people drink and fart. I think it's and there's also like multiple meanings to it I think it's excellent I thought she was brilliant she was amazing like you're gonna throw Octavia Spencer in here an Oscar winning actress for some Blumhouse horror movie it's like what a what a fascinating pick and they really utilize her talents to the fullest extent and I thought the movie did an excellent job of getting its grips in me of I'm kind of on her side like I would really go back and forth with I've got them on her side, you know? These guys are jerks. You cannot be on her side, though.

Starting point is 00:21:42 Everybody has passed trauma. Hers was a horrible assault situation. In real life, I would not be on her side. In real life. Well, you are real life. In private, I would. But around friends who would, no, in real life. I mean, like, this is it.

Starting point is 00:21:59 I understand psychologically. Like, this is a woman who's very much troubled, and she's taking out her trauma that has been completely unresolved and it's led her to being an abusive parent and and uh as all all the elements but you know i wonder what happened her husband i think she killed him why do you think that because look at what we just watched in this movie i'm pretty sure she killed the guy and then i don't know because she has super domesticated and she's clearly torturing her there there are elements i'm not sure what happened with the guy because she says the ring is

Starting point is 00:22:34 stuck on her finger. It made me feel like she killed another woman to get the ring because she's been stealing everybody's jewelry. Yeah. My mind's wandering, but I think there's just a lot of weird, weird, like the things that were not completely fleshed out, I think, that, that were kind of dangling. Like, it was weird. I really, really enjoyed the journey so much when I was watching it. I really enjoyed the hell out of it. But when it ended, I was like, huh, up until the the last moment, I was like, what was missing about this movie for? Even like Mercedes dying and like nothing about that. You know what's weird?

Starting point is 00:23:12 You know, and stuff with the, some pieces like with the daughter as well, there are just like elements that I feel like they needed a little bit more time with this movie to either like punch it up a little bit more or let or bring a little bit more of a conclusion. Even like the death of Allison Janney and stuff. Like there are things that I just could have been ramped up at times. tiny bit more for me but man it's it's still like a tort of you know what's the phrase I'm totally blank on the word

Starting point is 00:23:40 toward of toward of towards France toward a tour de force tortoise force tortoise force tortoise force it's a tortoise force to be honest it's a tortoise force let me tell you this movie was a tortoise force I actually the more we're talking about this very I don't want to convince

Starting point is 00:24:01 yeah usually When I watch a movie, the more I talk about, the more I like it. This movie, I think she shouldn't be spoken about. Just let me live. You keep Ma's name out of your mouth, Greg. Let me live in La La Land about Ma. I'm sorry. I love your experience, though.

Starting point is 00:24:25 You're right. Every point you're saying, I'm like, well, that is true. And yeah, we didn't explore, we didn't explore the past relationship. of hers and what happened there. We didn't really explore Allison Janney's death. We didn't really talk much about Mercedes death and the ramifications there if there are going to be any because Luke Evans is dead and does anybody care

Starting point is 00:24:42 about Mercedes at this point. There are some things that we just, that were weird. And actually, I'm tortoise four just done with the... Tortoise. Tortoise. Tortoise is telling me that the less I talk about this movie, the better.

Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah, it's fun. I had a lot. lot of fun. I did. I overall, I'm like, oh yeah, absolutely. I had a lot of fun. And I loved being next to you to witness this journey you were on. I was like, oh, really messed me off. That was good. And we've had experiences where I'm getting more messed up than you. And so it was really fun to like, this one really played with me. I don't know what exactly it is about it that made me feel like, so I think like realistic psychological horror is like the shit that really messes you of. And I sit here like, ooh, fascinating. Like, tell me.

Starting point is 00:25:32 more. Tortoise force. Toward to force is what it. It's toward the force. Is it? I'm doubting myself. Is it toward the force? I do know what you're talking about, but I don't, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:25:49 Tortoise force. Should we look it up or should we just let the comments tell us? I think we just live with tortoise force. I don't think we never said, we never say tortoise force. From here on how it is tortoise force. And that is what it is. Barry Keoggan gave a tortoise force performance and salt. Don't let anybody correct you.

Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah. I'll just run a test and see if anyone. Did you say tortoise force? I said, no. I said what do you think I said? Tourist force. Later, Ma. That's all the time we have.

Starting point is 00:26:25 D.B.C. We loved that edition. Tortoise force. Ruding for a Ma, too. maybe we'll get some explanations. We didn't see her die. The house was burning. She was doing fine with the...

Starting point is 00:26:35 Call it ma-ma. Which there is a movie. Call Mama. What? Call it Mama for... Because Ma times you. Yeah, it's the second Ma movie. Call it Tortoise Force.

Starting point is 00:26:49 Torters Force, Ma, colon, tortoise Force. Okay, later, rejects.

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