The Reel Rejects - MADEA GOES TO JAIL (2009) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:23 Here we go. All righty, guys, we have just watched Medea goes to jail. I'm sorry, Tyler Perry's Medea goes to jail. If you were listening to this on Apple or Spotify, make sure to give us five stars. Also go to Rejinationshop.com so you can get shirts and teas like these, like the chesties, because we designed that. Me and my friend Joanne, go support the CJAX and all the other things, cool stuff that's over there.

Starting point is 00:01:58 Greg Greene is on his phone. He's making notes. He's making observations and statements. Greg, what did you think of Tyler Perry's Medea goes to jail? What did you think of Tyler Perry? Mr. Medea goes to jail. What did you think of Tyler Perry's Medea goes to jail?

Starting point is 00:02:11 I was asking you what you think. Um, I really liked it. I really, really liked it. I thought it was very, I would say, like, thematically it had some similarities to the other movies. movies but I think it's executed a lot smoother it did it in a way that was a lot deeper we got to address some social issues that were very prevalent within not only the black community but

Starting point is 00:02:42 I presume Atlanta especially in 2009 I'm sure some of those things are still relevant today and I really enjoyed the fact that it was a lot more focused and I feel like it had a much smoother pacing you know it nothing outside of us going through the montage of them being in jail i don't really think there's any montages in the movie i will say the only thing i i understood it because i'm like okay it's like kind of a trope and it's kind of expected but i kind of wish they would have just stayed friends i don't need the the lawyer dude and candy to get together but you know it didn't it didn't bother me that they got together um medea is the glue she's like the kind of static character but she always drops some wisdom and

Starting point is 00:03:28 you know it's always a pleasure i think they're getting funnier we've kind of moved away from like the mid early two thousand sensibilities of humor with like all the fart jokes and some of those other things and we've kind of elevating and some of the jokes still a lot of the jokes worked for me um just having been familiar with tyler perry's tv shows and just certain things i've grown up with um culturally um and yeah i i really liked this one like this one like genuinely I liked its themes of forgiveness, and I like that, you know, people are warranted of a second chance and, you know, these things of guilt that people deal with as well. And, yeah, I don't want to say all the things.

Starting point is 00:04:13 So that's just my little topper there. Jeff. Oh, but not Jeff. You're not Jeff. I'm Greg. I don't know. Jeff is. How the fuck, Jeff is sweeter?

Starting point is 00:04:23 Choose Jeff. I don't know. Like, you know what Jeff? No, one, Jeff. No, two Jeffs. Did you see Jeff recently? I did see Jeff today, yeah. Okay.

Starting point is 00:04:37 That makes more sense. Okay. Yeah, no, I think that out of the three that we have watched so far, I would say this is my personal favorite one due to just overall as like filmmaking. I think that the pacing is a lot stronger. and more focused of a narrative and one thing for me is often a tonal conflict i always kind of understood what tyler perry was going for because he loves to do stories uh with familiar themes right um trauma hardship um social commentary on you know being black in america um resilience there's a lot of things that he loves to touch on consistently that I think like okay so part of what he's

Starting point is 00:05:33 aiming for is to do it depict like depict a drama and show that well in real life and family and hardship there's still also humor that can come out of it whether that be a dark sense of humor or just people's natural personalities and I think that this one managed to capture the things that he had always aimed for the best while there's like commentary on you know uh the additional side that it wasn't really like he just talks about like you know domestic violence physical assault sexual assault before and this one to me uh had more of those um not to me it is in the story about trafficking which i was uh surprised to see implemented into here but a also a lot about institutional biases and um problems

Starting point is 00:06:24 with incarceration, how a lot of the time it is very punishing of those in poverty and punishing of those in certain societal groups when a lot of times it seems like you could offer rehabilitation. A lot of times the sentencing and the duration of it is very much unfair corruption within the system. Well, also still managing to keep the, because what he didn't do was make fun. They had the main storyline, right, with the guy and the main girl who was the prostitute they're trying to get clean. And then you have Medea. And the only time this story wanted to be funny was when it was dealing with Medea,

Starting point is 00:07:04 whenever Medea was on screen. Right. And I think they had a really great handling of that to just mainly cut back and forth because they had that one story and then Medea, one story and Medea. So what you have in terms of a plot structure is a convergence of two stories that land at the prison, which ultimately dives into. Female Empowerment, Sisterhood, things like that that I thought were obviously topics that are touched on in the other Tyler Perry movies, but I think with a much more refined focus, like kind of the subject that I think of what Medea represents is he has these things with the women, the main women in the films, which are usually they are a victim of some type of abuse, usually some type of domestic assault, you know, and then. they have to like grow strength and they have to become self-empowered and I think like Medea

Starting point is 00:08:02 represents who he imagines women of victimhood to arc into you know and I think that's what makes Medea so weirdly like reliably warm and funny and strong at the same time like he's all the embodiments of what usually she's all the embodiments with women usually arc into in his films I think and so yeah i think uh this was probably the better one of them um yeah yeah i agree uh very very well-spoken gregg about the observation of the the experience of black women within uh tyler perry's films i think that well i lack emotional intelligence I'm showing you, mother that's just this, man.

Starting point is 00:09:03 I think of that. I was off the dome. Oh, man, dude. Yeah, well, I think what you said was very well said. And I think it's interesting exploring the different facets of women who go through hardships within the different context. You know, that was like the one was financially dependent upon the husband

Starting point is 00:09:31 who was verbally abusive to her and didn't treat her well. And there's also the physical abuse within a marriage or a partnership. And then there's the woman who's gone through hardship from an early age and then this old rekindling of a relationship. and it's interesting because it didn't do so it didn't and didn't like the the trope of the the dark skin black man being the bad guy and like the light skin do one being the good guy and everything about that yeah right it didn't do that yeah it kind of reversed it like the white skin black woman was the bad guy and the dark skin woman was the good guy early on I was

Starting point is 00:10:14 like when's he going to hit her you know it's like okay and it feels like I don't again I It's been a very long time since I've seen some of the Medea plays. I don't know if I've seen the play of Medea Goes to Jail, but I'm wondering how much of this is a direct adaptation of that play and how much of it was a change for the screen version because the first two movies had a lot of stuff that was very spread out. And I imagine on the stage version there was room for those things to kind of get played with a little bit more

Starting point is 00:10:49 because he had like what three or four different storylines and I wonder if this one was like okay let's just like reel it in because we really need to focus up because this is a film format format and you know we have this very serious thing this very comedic thing and I like the fact that it was came to a convergence point of that serious thing and a comedic thing and then found a way to have both of what they've been through be relevant for the the theme of the movie and yeah and having Viola Davis in it I thought was great you know because I didn't want I didn't know she's in a Tyler Perry movie but too she's just been a great actress She's always so good Yeah for every time I see her bad Never ever bad

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Starting point is 00:14:13 And between the two main characters, I thought they have very powerful monologues, where they did break down it really felt like especially that guy the first time he had the confession it felt like this was the first time this character is saying that sharing the story like the especially the repetition before before he actually started unveiling it like the rep like oh that sounds so real and his performance was very great in this film really liked it a lot and uh the idea of self-forgiveness as well is a hard thing to do and especially i think in christian ways of thinking it can be very hard forgive yourself and

Starting point is 00:14:53 and so I love the the way they actually honed in on that theme I thought was stronger here I remember in family reunion thinking it was kind of weird with the messed up mom being at the wedding and then pushing this idea of forgiving her right then and there's like we have to and

Starting point is 00:15:09 there's something about it just in ring right to me about the handling of that character and forgiving her there and this one just felt so much more believable and grounded and nuanced and as well as with the christianity like it didn't feel like the movie stopped to tell me about christianity it actually made more sense i always felt that's what he was kind of going for in the last one because that's one thing

Starting point is 00:15:33 i think i've said it to you before too it's like i'm hanging out with like black people who are christians i actually hate i vibe more with that side of christianity because it seems like it's done something culturally to give a sense of like hope and especially in america with the history of slavery and then i've seen so many people where it's like that has given an inspiration of hope so something to cling on to that brings a sense of true community and not kind of in and i think it's because of the antithesis to how i grew up with catholicism of it feeling a little bit like guilt driven and so watching it here i was like yeah this is what i was felt like i was picking up on was that it's more about the sense of community and

Starting point is 00:16:15 belonging and uplifting rather than you got to find Jesus and here's what the Bible says you know so I think this was really well done on on that front I think this is really like all the things that I always thought were kind of funky in the other two that I have fun I think they're fun to watch I think they're really fun to watch but this one um I felt like I could take this more serious yeah whereas the other two kind of felt like more melodramatic it's just felt like drama yeah yeah and I think he had in a awareness of that, especially because he has the melodramatic line where he's like, I don't want

Starting point is 00:16:49 this is melodrama. So I think he, as much as Tyler Pair has been accused of not I mean, he's pretty obviously not someone who likes courtesy from what I understand. I think that's one level of criticism. He might have taken a heart of like, okay, maybe

Starting point is 00:17:05 for film this reads as melodramatic or over dramatic, like sensationalized dramatism. And perhaps we need to make this a little bit more subdued for it to be more effective. Yeah, I think the only scene in the movie that the dialogue

Starting point is 00:17:20 and performances didn't work for me was like the scene where after essentially Candy gets assaulted and he's like, you're going to be my slave and like you'll be here forever. I was like, this feels very on the nose. Well, heavy-handed. That was the one scene that felt heavy-handed to me, but everything else for me really, really works.

Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah, I think the sometimes like, I think the relationship at the end of the day with the main bad woman um and the main guy i'm forgetting everyone's name i think that could have been i always understood what they were going for sometimes i felt like i think it's a little bit more dialogue a little bit of punch up on dialogue could have helped make that feel more real instead of like come on man you got to be aware of why this is bothering your fiance yeah you know and um like you got to be

Starting point is 00:18:11 aware of that and she also has to take into some considerate i mean her character makes a little more sense by by learning what her past choices were like okay no wonder you be just so like in your lane about it uh but yeah sometimes i felt like it's sort of lacked a little bit of nuance in uh in their relation and in the dialogue of their back and forth because it was a little bit one note of like baby you don't understand no i'm not into her oh she's here all my attention's on on candy now And it was kind of like a lot of the scenes Yeah, kind of like it was repeating for sure Yeah

Starting point is 00:18:44 I agree with their relationship Could have added more nuance and I After hearing his confession Why he didn't say anything Because he just felt so much guilt about What happened I'm like yeah Because the fact that you're not

Starting point is 00:18:57 You don't feel like that is your partner And best friend You can't tell her that I feel like that's kind of a testament So maybe that's not the person you should be with Because that should be so that you It should be a safe place for you to be able to express any of your stuff if not most of it um and i do agree that i kind of i do kind

Starting point is 00:19:16 of wish it ended on them not being in love candy in him yeah because like it didn't seem like it was going that way and especially with the but you kissed her i was like whoa yeah yeah it was shocked yeah didn't seem like it was like romantic yeah so like you just really cared for her and then his uh his friend was like he's not in love with her like i was like okay that made it seem like okay there's like this misunderstanding here I'm like oh no I guess he just is in love with her and his friend just doesn't know yeah so yeah I don't know what that was about but

Starting point is 00:19:44 yeah I really enjoyed this one and there's some really funny moments there's some very funny moments the forklift moment has got every one of my favorite hands down also her waiting to get arrested was also really good yeah okay we watched

Starting point is 00:19:59 Medea 3 I guess don't matter Greg let us know the comments now well That stays, baby David Gandy You know, if there's anyone here at our Patreon page Who I could see dressing up as a black woman

Starting point is 00:20:18 I totally think it would be David Gandy Guys haven't seen David He is as white as they get If you were like, who are those white suburban males Who didn't vote in the election this year? David. David, it fits that look. That's right, he does.

Starting point is 00:20:37 He's just so white and Christian, so Christian white. So I totally think if Tyler Perry ever needs a day off, you could totally step in. A day off. It's actually pronounced Medea, you racist. Oh, a Medea off. But if you could have someone to step in, I really feel like it would be really funny to see you do it. because let's face it man we need someone who's willing to be um the next nutty professor and i feel like you in more costumes that's you shouldn't just stop at an old black lady you should

Starting point is 00:21:19 have every you should be like an old guy i mean look and also david let me think about it john we're always complaining about all this like race swapping we got we got to even it out so now we got to have David Gandy take over the role of Medea moving forward that's right for equality's sake you know be everything as one you know you can be David you could be David David it goes to jail that David goes to jail good I like it but then he's let out because he's white that's true they're just like what are you doing here we made a mistake get out of here are you crazy try not to do whatever you did again and we'll be good yeah medea honor system is wrongfully arrested for 10 minutes is the star of david gandy's movie david i hope you have a great thanksgiving because hey there's so much to be

Starting point is 00:22:13 thankful for truly like you like the whiteness love you david i love you so much i want to kiss you M-M-M-A-M-A-M-A.

The Reel Rejects - MADEA GOES TO JAIL (2009) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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