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Starting point is 00:01:28 I mean, just giving us right away that. I love it. Sorry, there's a credit for elderly woman, and her name is, the actor's name is just sparkle. Anyway, she gave us a sparkle. But yeah, no, I was just saying, like, this film was just an array of different emotions, and I loved the tone right away, just setting like what we're in for in terms of the kidnapping, gave us that awful fact on, you know, that every 60 minutes there is a kidnapping in, I believe it said Latin America, from my recollection. But whatever the case, it just led us in. And, you know, right away, Tony Scott gave us in on the tone of what we were in for. And then, you know, we get, right away, we get the character traits of Denzel's character that, you know, he's drunk and he's had an, obviously there's this, he's had something happened in the past that's caused him to become this drunk and he's lost his way in life and has nothing to live for. and then we get into such a touching part of the film that I was not expecting at all. I just, man on fire, I saw the poster, Stenzel, I figured, okay, it's just going to be a cool action film.

Starting point is 00:02:38 And then they really took their time developing this relationship between Denzel's character and Dakota Fanning. And by the way, props, we'll get into it the more we talk about. Dakota Fanning was abs. I know there was a big break of time from after about the 30, or 45, 50 minutes. Mark, once she got kidnapped to the end where she wasn't in the film. But that first 45, 50 minutes, she was like the heart and soul of the film. She was absolutely terrific. I was just so damn invested.

Starting point is 00:03:07 It's a very tough. I mean, obviously all acting is very difficult, but especially child acting. And there is a thing where, you know, you watch child actors and, you know, you watch them and you're like, ah, this kid's kind of annoying a little bit, but not in this case, not in this case at all. Or sometimes you can, yeah, they're obviously like, perform. performing, especially at a very young age. You know, like, there's only so much experience you have to draw from. So, like, yeah, sometimes you can tell you're watching a young actor.

Starting point is 00:03:34 But, yeah, with her, she feels she's one of those rare child actors who, yeah, really feels just like they're, yeah, living the character on screen or whatever. Yeah, but I loved how, I loved how intuitive she was, but also she still felt like a child at the same point. Because sometimes, too, when they make children too intuitive and too smart, they're like, too percocious. This doesn't feel like a child. But in this case, I actually did buy it. And again, the way that she was able to, you know, help this character find his way back from not wanting to live. I mean, we saw like he had that pullet and the bullet doesn't lie.

Starting point is 00:04:10 And he wanted to take his own life. And like, I just, it was so natural and organic the way their care, the development of their relationship, just the bond. It just was so beautiful. I just wasn't expecting it. But it was so touching at the same point. And again, I love the way Tony Scott and Brian Helgaon, Helgoland. I love the way he took his time in the story,

Starting point is 00:04:32 just letting that relationship build up. Letting, and again, we knew because of the way the film was set up that she was probably going to get kidnapped. But we let that build up, let that relationship soak in, and then get us so invested, and then, oh, the impending danger. But, I mean, a lot of voice, actually. Yeah, right. But, I mean, that was.

Starting point is 00:04:55 I just again, it was, I was, you know, it's a tale of two tales in terms of with this film, in terms of you have this hard. Trent Rezner, sorry, the credits are still willing. Trent Rezner is the music consultant. I believe he was the composer for the social network. Of course. He's a great composer. He's a hell of movies now.

Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah, he does a lot. But it's close to him and get a early start here with this. There is a lot of nine inch nails in this movie. Damn. But, yeah, no, and also, too, I love as well in terms of like how just, she was so infatio in terms of just like a fatherly figure that this character was to her and then on the flip side like once he found his way like oh my god i have something to live for this like this little girl is like brought me back and it's like now he's gotten and uh like now he was helping her with swimming and just she's so important to him and like now when we get on this revenge mission it's like hey you buy this it's not like you know he's just like why is he going on this revenge mission it was just a job to no no no this is this is like his surrogate daughter like this is damn important to him. him. And like, it's like, you want him to do this. I mean, you would have wanted him to do it either way because she's such a cool and such a sweet character. And, you know, the performance is so

Starting point is 00:06:06 touching from Dakota Fanning in general. But the fact that they're so emotionally connected and you're so invested in it as an audience and how close they are as characters you're like. And again, that father-daughter relationship, it's like, now you really want him to get justice on that revenge story, but I had a feeling, I mean, again, the twist and turns in this film, I really did not. There were a couple that were a little bit predictable, but I think Brian, I'm not even going to try and pronounce this last name anymore. I think he thought, like, okay, the audience is going to probably pick up on the Mickey Roar character, probably going to pick up on this, but I'm going to throw a couple other loops and twist and turns here, which I appreciate it,

Starting point is 00:06:45 because those were definitely unpredictable. So I got a few more things to say, but I'm going to let my brother from another mother, Jonizio, get some things in here. What do you think about the film, No, man, you're killing it over here. I, yeah, it was really enthralled by this. And I love a movie experience like this where, it's like there are a lot of movies like this. This is a, you know, a particular genre of action movie almost or a subgenre, you know, the sort of revenge thriller or, you know, guy is the sort of like hyperviolent guardian angel story. But what I really, really found gratifying about this, this kind of experience.

Starting point is 00:07:24 experience is, you know, every now and again you see a movie that could be made a number of different ways. Like, this could easily be taken and not to shade a movie like taken. I think taken is a lot of fun. Love it. You know, that's badass for its own reasons. But I really enjoy when a movie that on its surface, kind of like you said, it's like you have some level of expectation coming into something like this that, yeah, like, okay, you got a filmmaker like Tony Scott. So this may be a bit more high caliber in terms of the filmmaking prowess on display given his track record. You got Denzel Oscar winning actor. I don't know where we are exactly in his awards life at this moment in time. But just done training day three years before. There you go.

Starting point is 00:08:08 Three years before that. Sorry I didn't. So, no, but you got like caliber talent right off the bat. But this could also easily be one of those movies. And even thinking back to my memory on the first equalizer movie is kind of foggy. But, you know, even that, while that has, you know, a certain level of craftsmanship on it, uh, and, you know, it's Antoine Fuqua and Denzel, which is also like a pretty classic combination, uh, you know, a movie like that even, I think skews a little more pulp blockbuster. And not to say that this isn't pulp, but the point I guess I'm trying to get to is that, yeah, on face value, and even throughout the movie, this has elements of, you know, any number of action thrillers about, you know, some guy trying to get back his loved one of whatever

Starting point is 00:08:57 variety. And I thought this was really gratifying because it took that premise, but it made like a real tangible film out of it without sacrificing, again, all the cathartic and, you know, kind of bloodthirsty elements. Yes. You know, because when you're in a situation like this, like, yeah, you know, in especially a cinema environment, a fantasy environment, you want to see retribution, you want to see revenge. You want to see people pay. But, you know, this isn't just an action extravaganza, which it easily could be if they wanted to.

Starting point is 00:09:28 But I really liked that, yeah, this movie, it's like a two hours and 15 minute movie or something like that. Very well-paced. Yeah, I really appreciate the way it took its time and it really invested you. Like the whole first half of the movie, like you're aware of the looming threat

Starting point is 00:09:43 and the possibility of, you know, the premise arising pretty quick. But I like that it didn't arise. super quick. It's not on that Save the Cat timeline where it's like within 10, 15 minutes, she's got to be kidnapped. Yes. It's, yeah, they really let you, you know,

Starting point is 00:09:59 sit with the anguish that the crease crazy character is living with and I really enjoyed that they didn't rush through breaking the ice. You know, at first they are, he's super aloof. You know, he doesn't want to do anything more

Starting point is 00:10:15 than the bare minimum that his rate you know, sort of necessitates. And then very naturally you watch as he opens up to her. And I meant that sincerely at the early parts of the movie. I was like, this is endearing enough and rich enough that I would just watch these two bond. You know, I would just watch the drama. I would have been done for that too. Yeah, about this guy, you know, finding his will to live again and finding, you know, some, you know, lust for life again. And yeah, so once the actual kidnapping goes down, and again, they're able to tease you by taking their time, then they're able to tease you with certain things or

Starting point is 00:10:51 mislead you with certain things. And so, yeah, I guess going back to that initial point, it's like, I love a movie experience like this that presents you with one prospect, but then goes above and beyond to really realize that prospect and to tell that story in a way that isn't just the first approach you would expect. And that's through all the different departments. I thought this was really well cast. And I mean, too, like casting a Mickey Rourke. I think in movies, movies like these, you know, if you're going to have some level of mystery or you're unraveling some sort of, you know, wormhole of crime or rabbit hole of crime, you know, they're going to be twists and turns and misleads. And then there are going to be things that you can sort of

Starting point is 00:11:33 more easily identify or call out. So I feel like casting Mickey Rourke is a conscientious choice because we are inevitably going to see him and go, I don't know if I trust this guy. Oh, yeah, for sure. I like Mickey Rourke, you know, or at least I like some of his performances. So, like, I'm excited to see him, but I also know he doesn't often, yeah, or Sin City or whatever it might be. Diner, go back in the day. But, yeah, you know, you have characters like that or casting choices like that that give you a hint, but it's not the whole picture. Absolutely. And, yeah, you have so many appealing, you know, supporting actors and whatnot that all kind of force you into this position where you have to question everybody.

Starting point is 00:12:14 And, you know, you've got to wonder what the motive. are and who's being on the level. And yeah, I just thought this was, like, it's not that I didn't expect this to be rich, but I expected, yeah, just more of a blockbuster action throwler. For sure. Whereas this felt more, again, like a film in a lot of ways. And it really steeps you in the place and the setting. You know, you feel the sweat and you feel the heat, you know?

Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah, I just wasn't expecting it to be so touching and so just so versatile and multifaceted in all these emotion and layers. I was just, I was so surprised in all the right ways. And too, some of the fakeouts were great. Like when she ran out of the car when they weren't like, when she wasn't like, because obviously she cared about this character. Wanted to know more about him.

Starting point is 00:13:01 And then she jumped out of the car. I thought that was where the kidnapping was going to start. But I was like, okay, genuinely surprised. Okay, no, she's just running to the back. And that was great. And it's like, no. And now we're going to develop the relationship and spend more time, like a good 20.

Starting point is 00:13:16 five to 35 more minutes before the kid. Awesome. Great writing right there. What a fake up because thoughtful writing. Very smart. And also too that was really sad and poetic how like he was willing to give up his own life for her because obviously at the beginning he didn't want to live and he, you know, again, we talked about earlier, the bullet doesn't lie. And he tried taking his own life when he first started working for them didn't have anything to live for. She gave him a reason to live and he ended up in the end giving his life for her. I just thought. like, that's so, again, phenomenal writing to me. That's so poetic. It's a beautiful full circle. Yeah, it really is. Yeah, and it's like you could imagine a way in which, you know, he could walk out of here, you know, less dead. But at the same time, yeah, in the poetry of the story, it's not the kind of movie that you can have, yeah, that full happy ending. Like, oh, we're just going to all live as a family together. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. And I think it is, it is, again, kind of indicative of what kind of movie this is, because. it is, like, tragic.

Starting point is 00:14:18 It is. But at the very same point, it's also, you know, there is kind of a beauty to it. And there is sort of a shared catharsis in the rest that he can now experience. Like, he can finally stop. And you know that, yeah, he has sort of come full circle. And even though, yeah, of course, he would probably want, you know, one infinite more minutes with her. At the same time, yeah, it's like, this is the perfect place to close.

Starting point is 00:14:46 close the loop if it has to close. And, you know, I'm not going to be your bodyguard forever. Of course. And the fact that he put a dent, a major dent into the operation, obviously we saw afterwards. Obviously, he didn't know because he's not the audience. We are. We got to see that the whole thing shut down in terms of they stopped the voice, Daniel. But he put a major dent into it. He saved her life. He did get to have that one, that moment. He saw that she was okay. So, yeah, that was very amazing. All right, Reject Nation. So today I want to show something with you that has been a wonderful addition to my health and fitness journey that I discovered during the holidays. And that is liquid IV's hydration multiplier. I'm down to my

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Starting point is 00:18:52 stay sharp and embrace the extraordinary with harries till next time reject nation till next time and um also too i really it wasn't like a focal point of the film but just in terms of b characters i love christopher walkin as rayburn yeah and i like that he was on the level the history between those two like within like two or three minutes of those characters interacting with I'm like, I really like buy the history with these two and I love their chemistry with each other. Obviously, too, that was the focal point for me in this film was Denzel and Dakota Fanning's. Chemistry was on a level I can't even describe in words.

Starting point is 00:19:27 It was perfectly casted between those two. And also the chemistry with Christopher Walken and Denzel. I mean, I guess like anytime you put anyone up with Denzel, you're going to get chemistry. He's just such a damn good actor. But I mean, those two. it is it speaks very very highly to the casting yeah because and i wonder what the prep was like you know because especially between dakota fanning and denzil washington like even though they spend so much of the movie ultimately apart you feel her presence yeah and you do have to not only

Starting point is 00:19:58 buy their initial bonding but you have to buy that level of heart swell when he is the one to show up and finally save her from all this and too i mean like i appreciated that they let you sit with the question mark also. It's like, again, we could have gotten straight to business. But, yeah, wondering, is she still alive? It's very probable she might not be. But at the back of your mind, you're sitting there going like, well, if she was worth this much for ransom at one point, it does seem kind of like a waste, you know, just to,

Starting point is 00:20:29 yeah, that's what I was kind of in the back of my mind. To discard to put it, you know, horribly. And I also like the way the Rachel T. Coton, hope I pronounced her character from Total Recall. I love the way her character was portrayed her and the other guy who we were kind of like, wait, can we trust him, can we not? You know, I mean, when you live in a society where, you know, corrupt things happen and, you know, can you trust the media? Can you not trust the media? I'd like how, like, we were able to, you know, go through some POV shots from their perspective and just see, like, what they have to deal with on a daily basis and that, you know,

Starting point is 00:21:02 they're dealing with corrupt cops and just in general, like, and I just thought the film just did a good job with those characters and again just their everyday life things that they have to deal with and that they were able to instill trust with Denzel's character and just help him along this journey of revenge and I just thought it was again very organically done and I like the way those characters were utilized yeah yeah the chess board they draw between him between the press between the cops between the bureau the AFI or whatever that the American Film Institute Yeah, the FBI of Mexico, you know, like all those different players and watching them as they sort of uneasily kind of form the alliances and stuff like that. Like, this movie really earned to me every ounce of what it was trying to do.

Starting point is 00:21:51 And it really kind of pulls you in in a wholly more rich and different way. Again, not to slight like a straight ahead action flick or whatever. But yeah, it's like it's easy to get you on board with like, oh, kidnapped family member, got to get them back. But here I like that they took the approach of like really investing you in the. relationship, but also the family, the mess that this family is in. Like, I felt for Mark Anthony when he's like, yeah, you thought I inherited an empire. I inherited all my father's deaths and problems. Yeah, I inherited kind of a rotten kingdom, essentially, a rotten bounty. Yeah, and I mean, I did, even though I hated the decision he made, I felt for him here because

Starting point is 00:22:31 again, you inherited that. So twisted, yeah, but you're like when you're in so far. It's so deep when you inherit something. Again, I hated the decision he made, but I felt for him. But also, it sucks knowing that he went to his grave, not even knowing his daughter was still alive, but still like, again, I am not an empathetic to the fact that, that, yeah, a terrible decision he made. But, and last thing I want to say before, I let John finish off before I read some trivia facts, the action we obviously got to talk about. Oh, sure. Yeah. Phenomenal. I also to love. Love the, the torturous methods in which Brian, God, I kid pronounce his name.

Starting point is 00:23:13 Did he do, by the way, did he do, uh, did he do, uh, did he do payback? He did do payback. I was right. Um, I love the torture methods in which he came up for, uh, what? Oh, he did LA confidential too. Oh, I never, I never, I'm just laughing at your love of torture. I never, I never saw LA confidential. Let it, let us know if you guys want me to do that one.

Starting point is 00:23:31 Yes. Um, I want to say, I've always wanted to see that one. Anyways, um, point I'm making, I really like. I'm a sucker for I don't obviously you guys know I get very queasy at certain things but having said that like I'm a very big fan of like coming up with method methods that will like give you information and I just thought the way in which Denzel's character was coming up with torturous methods to get the information was like just so well done like the bug plug with the C4 and like oh and then the other with the New Jersey guy that and I forgot what the first

Starting point is 00:24:06 Fingers. The fingers went. I was like, oh, cutting off the fingers and then cauterized. I'm like, I mean, you know, he's steeping down to the, you, you always hear about how vicious and how cruel the violence and the torture in these, in these circles of hell can be. And it feels like he directly matched that for them. Right. Right. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:24:28 Real taste of your own medicine shit. Very well done on those torture scenes and the action in general, just very well choreographed scenes. And for the way they should. shoot this stuff. I mean, like Tony Scott, you know, like that, especially as he got further into his filmog, like, again, the crazy kinetic, frenetic camera work, the ghost trails, the exposure ramping, the frame rate ramping, you know, all the different, like, you got the aperture kind of opening and closing. And it's like there's a strobing wild effect. And yet it's also very, you know, potent and evocative. It makes you feel this mindset of, you know, the chaos, the echoes of, you

Starting point is 00:25:06 know, her image in his head, you know, all the little things you notice when you're on the lookout for trouble. Like, there's just so much in here that plays into, again, both the satisfying cathartic elements of an action movie, but also really into the emotional, you know, just timbre of the characters and whatnot. Like, this is really vivid. Yeah. No, like you said, look, and the music, too, like all of that working together. It wasn't just like awesome action. It's like dramatic action because we're so damn invested in these characters and you want the payback so bad. And again, there's that looming question.

Starting point is 00:25:39 Is she still alive? Like, there's a chance he could get her back. So I just, I love dramatic action so much. As opposed to like, hey, if it's cool action and there's no dramatic payoff there, like, I'm still a fan of that as long as it's entertaining and it's cool. But when it's cool action with dramatic payoff, then it's like, oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah, it's not concerned with being cool.

Starting point is 00:26:00 The subject matter isn't cool. But you get, you know, you still get to have some of that satisfaction. in the action, even despite all that. Yeah, no, for sure. Even though that's not what the movie is trying to be. Yeah, no, exactly. It was like, again, and that's what I thought coming in. This is just going to be a cool action move.

Starting point is 00:26:17 It's like, I was like, on the backbird. Yeah, and then when you get emotional at their reunion, like, that's real. Oh, my God. It's not just like, oh, hell yeah. It's like, oh, my God. I was not expecting to have tears flowing down my eyes in this one, which I appreciate. And like you said, it's sometimes it's the ones we don't expect. Often, I think.

Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah, no, for sure. Sure. Okay, so I got some fun facts for you. I know Johnny Tio's going to want to know some of these. So many, most of the scenes between Denzel and Christopher Walken, or Denzel Washington and Christopher Walken were completely improvised. I believe that's so cool. I believe that, man. I believe that. I can see Christopher Walk and just go on Tandits. And then Denzel being the amazing actor, he has, he knows how to improvise. And it's always such a treat when you see Christopher Walking in a role that, you know, requires him. He's always good. I always love seeing him. one where he's actually acting, you know. Yeah, yeah. Writer Brian Helgeland.

Starting point is 00:27:13 Did I say that right? Hellgeland. Helgeland. Writer Brian Helgeland first saw the original Man on Fire in 1987 when he was renting videos in the late 80s. He walked into the video store where Quentin Tarantino was working and asked what was good. Tarantino recommended Man on Fire. Wow.

Starting point is 00:27:31 Meta! So we have him to think. Thank you, Quentin Tarantino. That's why everyone's at some. this subtle tribute to pulp fiction the way everyone's talking about being a professional which i have not seen so i don't understand this reference oh andrew well it's on our have you seen leon the professional i have not seen that either you got to see that shit too yeah that's what jean reno right jean reno jean reno sorry uh denzel washington was so impressed

Starting point is 00:27:56 with dakota dakota fanning's acting that he would watch her and forget he was in the scene believe that i believe she was so again we were watching him like are we watching a movie right now, or is, I mean, this is beyond impressive. Yeah, and I know she has been, you know, like, dogged in the past for like, oh, this child feels like an adult, but, but like, even within that, like, she does just have such a natural presence. It's wild. Yeah. I'll do a couple more. So the kitchen scene between Crecy and Pita, where she asked him about the concubines was mostly ad-lib. It started when they accused each other of smiling. Oh, that's awesome. Again, but that's impressed again for her like she's impressed they must have done a lot of prep and a lot of trust building

Starting point is 00:28:39 yeah that's beautiful so denzo was cast because of a trip to a doctor he ran into director tony scott in the waiting room of a medical office and the two started chatting scott had not seen washington in person since they worked together on crimson tide i have not seen that film i see crimson tide scott happened to see dakota fanning excuse me and i am sam i know that film which i have not seen with Sean Penn the night before and seeing him made Scott think of using them together. I guess that's, that's just how it works. Not bad. It was meant to be.

Starting point is 00:29:10 He's got some great trivia on this movie. Yeah. Yeah, this one actually is oh, you're going to like this one. Or maybe you won't like it. I don't know. Mickey Rourke and Denzel Washington. It would be a Mickey Rourke. Mickey Rourke and Denzel Washington did not get along during filming. Good. I believe that. Good. It works. This is not my bird. You let my bird fly away. I've heard it said Mickey Rourke can be a handful.

Starting point is 00:29:34 That I believe. And I mean, you know, Denzel is also an actor of stature. I'm sure he's a bit of a boss on set. Oh, wow. Okay, this is the last one I'll read. Rada Mitchell had three bodyguards protecting her when she was in Mexico for filming. She said they were hired after her driver was carjacked at gunpoint in Mexico City. Wow.

Starting point is 00:29:56 Gosh, dang. It's like she had to hire some creases of her own. She did. That's crazy. Damn. Man, the film man on fire. Yeah, in real life, went, uh, went, uh, went, uh, went met on her. Yeah, when, when life imitated art for a minute.

Starting point is 00:30:11 Yeah, for sure. Uh, anyways, um, again, this film was just ultra touching, super deep, way more than I was expecting it to be. I really loved it. Um, nicely done. I would love to watch more Denzel and Tony Scott, Denzo Washington and Tony Scott films. Let us know in the comment section. What do you think of this?

Starting point is 00:30:29 Would you like John, myself, anyone on the team to, uh, react to any other films that we mentioned earlier. But yeah, let us know what you thought of this one. Thank you guys so much for joining us. We appreciate. Love you guys so much. John, love you as always, too, buddy. And we will see you guys next time.

Starting point is 00:30:45 Stay safe. Peace.

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