The Reel Rejects - Media Knights, Cinepals, Heroes Reforged, & Reel Rejects LIVE FROM MULTICON

Episode Date: August 9, 2026

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The real rejects. Give it up. We got. We figured it out. How you guys doing? You guys doing good? I didn't do a count here. One, two, three, four, five. There's six of us. Two chairs. We're going to pull this off. We're going to pull this off. How do you think we should do it? Maybe stand here?

That way we could be equal with everybody. We're not towering over. We're not better than everyone. This is Koi. This is Jackie. They're just coming. Paige, Aaron, we got little John over here, we got Tara, I'll just squat, I'll just squat, we're actually live on YouTube right now too. I think we're the only one at Multicon who's live right now and John Humphrey you got to find a way up here whilst also managing the live stream you can do it simultaneously. Okay, one mic, one mic, one like seven people. This is going to go amazingly. I'm excited for this. Okay, all right. Good turnout.

I think I just want to take this in right now and just look at everyone who's here to say hi to us. All right, job well done. This is good. How are you feeling, Jackie? It's your first time being on a panel with us. I'm feeling great. I'm really happy to be here. It's very exciting. Okay. That's good. Paige. How are you feeling? Wonderful. Have you guys been watching Jackie and pages like Spider-Man reactions or anything like that recently? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Okay, just getting situated here. All right, I guess I'll ask a question for everybody here just to sort of kick us off.

And if any of you guys have a question in approximately two minutes from now, I will just go to you guys and we're just going to treat it like how we do any other live stream. I would like, there's a question I want to ask everyone here that I have never asked any of you before. Since you guys started doing reactions, how has it affected your, because I've, I've never asked any of you before, since you guys started doing reactions, how has it affected your, because I've, I like to think that when I started doing reactions, it made me a more emotionally in tune, expressive individual. How do you feel like it's changed you and your personal life outside of when we're actually filming? Coy, I think you want to go first.

You love talking. I do love talking. I think it's made me more aware of thinking while I speak, as opposed to thinking before I speak as you're supposed to. There's a different kind of circular breathing thing that happens in your breathing thing. when you're reacting. So in the same way, it's like playing an instrument or having to navigate a conversation where the other person isn't media trained.

Likewise, a reaction is having to articulate in real time in order to catch the moment before you miss the next moment. So it's like circular breathing for your brain. All right. That's such a coy answer. I was like, I kept up with half of that. Aaron. Same question.

Oh, man. So I started watching horror movies. because I started watching horror movies in the channel, and I realized that I can, I just react big in life now, so I have to, like, be conscious of the fact that I'm actually not on camera. So, yeah, you know, it can be fun sometimes.

Other times, maybe not so much, but I feel like it's made me appreciate film more because I'm able to watch so many different types of films and maybe more conscious of how I analyze them and how I take them in. So it's able to help, it's helped me formulate my opinions quicker. So, yeah, I think this is a great job

and I feel like one of the luckiest people in the world. I appreciate that, man. Let's skip over to, you know what? Let's go down here and then, LJ, we're going to end with you. And then eventually John Humphrey will join the stage. That will really end with John. Tara. I'm so glad we separated by sexes like we do it rejects.

That's how you got to do. We're not allowed to talk to each other. There's girls over there. the literal divine there's an actual table we're actually like guys you're on our side a little bit leave room for Jesus

and we left the room for John John's a boy this is where boy go Tara is you're one of the loudest most expressed of people in the world and loves the movie obsession so

yeah I'd like to say I learned nothing except that I am very self-aware now that I'm the loudest person in the room It's about it. And I should really pull the mic away while it reacting. That's about it. Yeah.

I'm really learning that I like superhero stuff. Yeah! Who won the crowd? I've been pretty transparent that animation's kind of been tough for me in the past, connection-wise. But I have kids now, so it's really cool to get to explore all of animation and superheroes through their eyes too. So I'm really appreciative to the channel for that.

John sits with the woman. Go, John. Yeah. So John, we did it. My man, I've known you since first grade. We've been filming together for far too long. We don't make eye contact anymore. Not anymore.

We have the same profile of each other at all times. How do you feel? I've never talked with you about it either. Has it affected the way you view things? Or how has it changed you at all and your personal life? It just has made me freer of expression in all cinematic environments. I feel like I have like a more free-flowing, I don't know. There's something like when you put something on, I'm already like easily pulled into a story anyhow.

But I've noticed that, yeah, I just feel freer to let the feeling out when I'm, you know, you don't really laugh that loud when you're on your own. Now I kind of have more dialogue with myself. That's true. That's true. sometimes when I'm by myself and I watch a movie I'm so into, I'm like, I wish there was a camera point. Yeah.

Because I'm like freaking out right now and no one's here to witness my emotions. Or especially like I love to go to the movie. I like movies with other people too, but like going to the cinema on my own is fun and like being part of a crowd I'm less afraid to like maybe I'm the only person laughing at this

but I'm inviting the crowd experience with me. Awesome. Jackie, you've been on here a lot as of late. How has it been changing your life, would you say? I would say I actually did, to jump off of John, I did start off as the kind of person that did talk to myself or my cat already when I watched films.

So nothing has changed that much. But beyond that, I mean, I think that empathy and connecting with other people is a muscle just like any other. The more that you work it, the more that you will be open in your day-to-day life. So I think it's been lovely. It's had a really positive effect on my life. Damn, it sounds like you're so media trained.

I love that. It's just the same. It's like such an articulate. That was awesome. I gave that to you beforehand. I got to go last. No, no. Here you go.

L.J. Yeah. Now, L.J. is quite possibly the most jumpy individual you'll ever meet her in real life. Some people are like, no one's this ridiculous and over the top. And I'm like, nope, I know him. Woo! He's a great. He was a great.

He escaped Valley Meadow. Good entrance. Nice. We were just asking everyone what they think about you, and they were all just giving super insane answers right now. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah.

There you go. Sex. L.J. Someone whispered the question to Andrew, so it gets time to think. L.J. No, no, no. Actually. Answer the question, my friend.

Let's raise you up because there's a camera over there. There you go. That makes sense. Do a windmill. All you're doing their breakfast. club. That's cute. Wait, what, I forgot.

What was the question? No, no, no. Just for John and the same now. Change. Okay, okay, okay. What was, what was happening?

What was, what was going through your mind in the last ten minutes right now? Number one, where's Andrew? I was concerned about Andrew. Number two, I was trying to sit under this table. That's basically it. I haven't really changed.

changed. I love it. I love it. That's called meat and potatoes, baby. Yeah. That's some real I'm so glad me at the media trade answer right before. I'm so glad we made you. This great poignant answer and then like, yo, I couldn't fit out of this table. And frankly, it messed shit up. Hasn't done shit for me. I don't know what to do now. To answer it, I guess, more profoundly. Like, I think the one thing I admired you guys about is you're able to articulate information right when you absorb it. Usually when it comes to watching a movie or television or any media, it takes me some time to like conjure my thoughts,

but for us to do it, react, and then to kind of review immediately after, has challenged my communication skills, my self-awareness, and ultimately the art of making art. So, yeah, that's my real answer. That was a great answer, man. That was a great answer. Andrew, did someone tell you the question? Yes, I think I heard how has being on the channel changed me?

Yeah, it's been doing reactions affected your personal life. Has it changed any way of how you express yourself or interact with movies or people? Yeah, I'm still working on my arc, but yeah. I think I was always an empathetic person, but I think watching movies just really seeing the dedication and hard work that goes into it, I think it's definitely, it's made me a little bit softer in a good way. Well, I see the dedication and hard work that not only Greg and everyone on the team puts into what we do, but also what they put it on the screen.

So I think it's made me look for the more positive things in films. I used to, when I watch films, I'd still look for the positive, but I think there's other things I'd look for on the negative side, even if I didn't, you know, adequate that out to other people. I'd say it out loud to myself or to people that are with me in my personal life, but I've definitely grown a lot softer when it comes to that in a good way, in a positive way. I like looking for the good and stuff. So I would say I've adapted in that way for sure, because I understand that it takes a village to make a movie,

it takes a village to do what we do as well. So I don't like shitting on things. So I'd say that's one portion of my arc. I'm still working on other portions of it as of now. But that's the biggest way. I think I've grown when it comes to being on the channel. And just working with people I love too. I think that no matter what you do,

if you work with people you love, it just makes it so much more fun to come to work. So, yes. All right. All right, good answer. Tara, I'm just going to ask really quick, if Roxy was here and not home, what do you feel like,

she's in here to go back to Boston for a bit? If Roxy was here, what do you think her answer would be? And can you do an impersonation of her? Oh, that's okay. You got this. She needs social media clipouts right now. I don't know. It's Roxy.

She would probably think about it and then maybe talk about horror and that she's glad to be reacting with me. And it's changed her because of me. I think that's the answer. That sounds accurate. Yeah. That sounds accurate. Does anybody here present?

How much time do we have left? I know we got a short, this is kind of not very long. Five minutes, who has a quiz? Does anyone here have a question? Yes, sir. This is for all the rejects. First of all, love your channel. I've been watching this since day one.

You really inspired me to be a rising content creator. And just curious question, out of all the movies that we've released so far in 2006, what exactly is your favorite movie of the year? Project Hail Mary. Odyssey, second, Spider-Man, Third. Everyone just starts shouting it out so we can get another question in. Obsession. I loved World War Z.

What she's saying? World War Z. Oh, she doesn't get to go to the theaters anymore. Yeah, that's right. I'll go with E.T. Okay. Yeah, actually, I changed my answer. I love that one.

My favorite movie I saw in 2026 is not a new movie, but it will change your life, and it stars Marlon Wayans, and it's called Little Man. Did you answer it? mine would be obsession. Actually, I think it would be obsession. And, L.J., what about you? It hasn't come out yet, but Dune 3 will be my favorite movie. I got one more, Project Hail Mary.

That movie was amazing. I loved Project Hell Mary. People involved with the film ended up messaging us because of your guys' reaction. That was pretty awesome, man. That was our intention. You got one more question. Oh, I didn't answer. Either Spider, Spider-Man, Spider-Man, Brand New Day, or The Invite.

Those are my favorites of this year. Good picks, good picks. Jackie Page, Little John, and Olivia from the Tired Witch's Podcast. But what does it feel like to come on board this channel reaction or in the case of a podcast talking about books and contribute to, you know, with your own identity in charge, especially since the reaction landscape as we're going to get into later, has changed so much in so many years? I mean, it's amazing, honestly. I feel like I dreamed this job into existence.

All I ever wanted was to watch movies for my whole life. And truly, I mean, my husband has even commented as we get to know everybody on this channel. They are truly some of the kind and have been incredibly welcoming. And I know giving us great tips and just feel really, really lucky, really. Yeah, I mean, I would definitely. I definitely agree. I feel like when I originally met with Greg, I was kind of like, wow, I think I might be perfect for this job because I live under a rock and I've never seen Lord of the Rings. I've never seen Star Wars. I don't know where I was or what I was doing. But I completely agree with Paige. It's just been so much fun. Everyone is so kind. It feels nice to get to just practice empathy again, like for a living. And what else was I going to say? Yeah, it definitely, I think it was, it caught me off guard at first. know, having your videos be pushed out to like 1.5 million people, I was just a normal girl, and that's pretty crazy. But the team has been really great, you know? It's been super fun,

and everyone's been really nice. Yee. Um, um, I're one of the girls. Yee. Wait. So, wait, uh, how does it feel like be part of the channel? Oh, cool, cool, okay. Um, where are you, John? John. Hold on, hold on. He's under the table. How many times have I changed position? This is amazing.

20 minutes. John's on a lot of spice right now. All right, right, right, right. No, I feel like the freshmen joining the varsity team. I feel as if like I'm still. You're that good as a freshman. I'm sorry? You're that good as a freshman.

I love you. No, I feel legitimately as kind of a, a movie fan and a media fan, film fan, so on and so forth. As much as I enjoy it, again, I still feel like overwhelmed with love and appreciation with being able to communicate,

I mean, communicate not only what I love to do and watch stuff, but also be among friends. Hell yeah, man. I'm going to have a long time. Is anyone here, we actually have a couple more minutes than we expected, actually. Does anyone have a question? We're going to go Flintstone and then Eric.

Is there ever a movie or like a show or something that like is so niche you think like pretty much no one will get it that it's somehow everyone does every time? Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. What was the question? I think I think it's always niche. Something niche that like defies the odds and everyone. likes it when you show it to them. Like something that works despite being so niche. Duh.

Phone a friend. Corey, you know, Corey's got one ready to go. That's a niche thing. I'm just going to pop in here because he needs time. Love Island. No, that's good. That's good answer. Wow, they took that seriously.

It's a reality show about love and everyone's in bikinis. And like, they've got good boondas and it's a good vibe. And they're supposed to fall in love. But a lot of times they end up fighting. niche, but it's great. Everybody loves that. So I'm surprised that all of you were like, oh, as though it was a new thing.

You've got to get on board. I've kind of an existential answer. Yeah. Like, look around the room, right? Like, we have people, like, kids dressed as Spider-Gwen, there's a little Spider-Man, and there's like a soon-to-be spider fan in a belly.

Like, this stuff, we're in the Scareball Center right now, and this stuff was so niche not one generation ago that we didn't get to celebrate it publicly. And now we're literally gathered together in a room on camera with people dressed up. And we've made the niche. Like, we have made the niche pop culture.

So I think that is my answer for the power of positive empathy towards art. Like, we've made this culture about sharing and being together on purpose. So I think that's really worth noting. Awesome. Aaron, have you concluded something? Hazzar. Something that's niche that I... That's crazy, Doug.

You really did, man. You know what? Are we allowed to cuss here? There's children dressed as spider people. I'm sorry, kids. I see them. You look right at the baby. You know, I've been in this movie.

I'm so sorry little girl in the spider girl outfit. Oh, Jesus Christ. You know, I started watching this movie recently called Fighting Words. It's like a movie from the early 2000s. It's like about poetry, and it's done like a sports movie, and it's not good, but it's a lot of fun. So that's niche, so I'll go with that.

Cool. Eric, I know you have, Eric's been actually a big part of our team behind the scenes. You got a question first. Nerd Chronic shouts out. My question's for Greg, specifically. I spoke to you a few years ago about your goal of creating a team to lighten the load of the channel and to build it out

into a more, you know, formative brand. And I feel like you've done that now. So how does it feel to have accomplished that now after those few years? Yeah. I find that an interesting question because it doesn't ever really feel. I always get a little weirded out when people are like, look at what you've built, look at what you've done. Because I'm like, yes, I've led it.

And a lot of it has been like my direction and ideas and who to bring on. But it's never felt like an I thing. It's always felt like community and we. And there is something that I do take for granted, which is that I do get to enjoy this experience with other people all the time. Like I grew up on like Conan O'Brien and like talk shows and stuff. And a lot of YouTubers are very individual. And when this was first growing, I was very individual for the first few years.

But now to have like a group of people, John here, the longest absolutely, has been, it's something that I don't think enough about to be totally. honest with you. I want to have like a profound answer, but now I'm feeling a lot more warm about it. And I'm grateful for all you guys. I never, I don't say that enough. I really don't. So love you, Greg. Thank you guys. Time's up. We got one minute. We got one minute. Anyone just yes or no question. Yes or no question. Mustard or ketchup. Mustard. Ketchup. Mustard. Mustard is for puking and I want to be explaining myself.

Get it. You get it. It's for puking? It's for not puking. You take a spoon of mustard and you won't puke. I haven't puke since 2006, 20 years strong this year, Thanksgiving, baby. We were raised very differently. That's a hellful tip. You can take that home today. Well, we're going out strong right now.

That warm moment of like, you know, I should think about community more. Mustard stops up from puking. No, oh my God, Louis Dallas Multipass. Hell yeah, that is such a great outfit. Multi-pass. Anyway, guys, thank you so much. for coming out. Coming up next is Media Nights. I'm going to be hosting them. It's our first ever live panel, first ever, so please, you know, participate.

They're nervous, and I want them to be nervous. And then Heroes of Forge Actor, and then my brother, Jabby, Kouye, from Sinapal. So you'll be annoyed with me by the end of the night, but please stick around. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Bob Baider. Thank you, everybody. Thank you all. We appreciate you. Yeah. I don't think we're getting up yet. Oh, picture, yes. I'm sitting on something. Okay. Yep. That was a microphone I sat on.

All right. All right, thank you guys. Thank you. One more round of applause for the rest of the team, guys. John will be doing windmills in the convention hall for $5. $5 a windmill. Am I just swinging into the next one? Are we just going right into the next one? We can.

We can. Uno momento. Hello? Okay, cool. Thank you. Hello. Hello? Hello? Okay.

Oh, always say hi. No, man. John's the one person you can approach. Are we good? Are we good, yeah? Yeah, all right. Okay, so right now we have like a little under 700 people who are watching live right now, which is really cool.

I just want to shout, thanks, baby. I just want to shout out some people who gave some, everyone who, who is contributing right now in the live stream. It's all going to Multicon and everything's going to mental health charities. So just a shout out a couple of people here. Alan Smithy, 9227, thank you so much. And of course, just Kaleisi as well.

Anything you guys contribute goes right to help me support some mental health charities. And now I'm gonna bring up two people, the guy of them, I've become very close with randomly in the past few weeks when I call for help about something, and then we've just been talking all the time ever since. And this is weird.

How long have you guys are doing it? Like three years? Three years. And their views are insane and they've become like the most dominant reaction channel as a late and rightfully so. And I want them to tell me all their secrets so we can take over them.

All right. So let's bring up Ari and Denise from the Media Nights. Their first ever live show ever. We'll coordinate this. There's three microphones we got. And then, Oh, okay, so you'll have the big comfy chair while you're... I am taller than you.

Mrs. gets the nice little black seat right there. Can we... Do we need to adjust the angle a tiny bit? Okay, cool. Is that okay? Hey, guys. All right, so unlike the last panel, I actually prepped a few questions for you guys today. Oh, no.

I feel like we're going to ask a little bit of some deep questions here. Are you ready for it? Oh, so ready. No, absolutely not. for the past like four hours. We were freaking out like five hours ago. Like, oh my God, this is happening. Yeah, pull on anxiety attack.

So now we're over it. We're good. But you guys don't know is they live like, I won't say where they live, but they live in the middle of literally nowhere. And they have like, they don't know anybody else out there. And every one of their connections online is only online. It's all online.

Yeah. We don't leave the house. They don't leave the house. That's why they're always on top of it. And I was going through some of your guys's prior interviews. And I've heard you guys call your channel a video diary before. And which one, so I'm kind of curious as I think about this for myself sometimes. Do you guys have an old reaction that kind of feels difficult to revisit because you can see a

version of yourself that you no longer are or you're like, you feel like you're better on camera? Is there something you feel like a little uncomfortable to go check out? I could have started lighter. I could have started way lighter. That is heavy. That's a little too introspective. You know what's funny? I look at some of our older videos sometimes and it's like mostly I look at with fondness because I'm like, oh, like we were really trying our best. But like, I judged myself a little harshly, maybe, but I feel like I could have come out of my shell a little bit more. I had so much camera fright, and I feel like that kind of held

me back a little bit, and I feel like I didn't really show a lot of personality because I was scared of saying the wrong thing or upsetting people or something like that. And I wouldn't necessarily say, it's like, oh, it's hard to watch, but I, Don't watch them. But you genuinely feel like you've actually grown. I would like to think so. I hope so after three years. I hope so.

Yeah. For me, it's for a specific video, I was actually recently rewatching just to see how we did. I was thinking about the Prisoners film. Okay. And we reacted to that about very early in the career, like I'm doing this. And I watched that video.

We were so quiet and so mellow. And I'm like, that was not us. Not at all. what the hell we were trying to show. I was like, we were like, so well, so well behaved. And yeah, I think getting out of your shell a little bit more, getting to interact with so many people on a daily has really helped us just be able to communicate better. Like whatever is in our mind, we are able to project that in a much cleaner way, a much more authentic way to who we are. What do you think separates you guys from, there's obviously a lot of channels that do reactions now.

and I feel like you guys are over half a million subscribers right now. But that's also, that can be misleading in the sense of just how well your guys' views actually do, where you guys are competing with you. Like you guys often way outperform like what your rejects can produce and a lot of other channels and way more followers. What do you think it is about you too? I know you guys are super humble and whatever, but whatever you, what do you think it is sincerely about you two

that people are gravitating towards? Honestly, I think it's for one, like our chemistry, I think it comes across as real and natural because it is real and natural. We figured out very early on that we got along very, very well, and we've just been building upon that relationship. And then we were at a place where we felt comfortable sharing that with the world. And the more we did that, we realized that there's a lot of people that think like us out there. And I think the more people felt invited to a place like that, the better everybody just felt, the more natural it just felt. all around, you know? Yeah.

So I feel like that's it. That's the core. Yeah. I feel like it's also kind of getting more comfortable with our regular banter and having that be part of our reaction. Because, again, one of the older videos you can tell, like, we weren't like teasing each other the way we normally would or like the way we would like make fun of each other the way we would normally would.

So the fact that I think we were comfortable enough to eventually integrate that to the reactions, I think makes people feel like, like we're watching a movie all together, right? And like that's a really cool feeling because I remember you know looking for a reaction video you guys is like of a movie that I really loved and then like I would see you guys like get like super hyped up

and super excited I'm like oh this is this is so cool it's like we're watching something together as friends you know which does sound a little you know parisocial if you think about it not in a creepy way I promise but you know especially like during times of COVID and stuff like that when you feel

really isolated or maybe something's going on in your life. It's a really nice way to kind of feel like you're building a community, I guess. So I think that's kind of... Well, on the parisocial side, I think part of the parissocial side that I have felt is I feel like I'm hanging out with a couple, you know, which is what's happening in that moment. I'm hanging out with a couple. So I am curious, what do you feel, how do you feel like your relationship has strengthened through the process of doing this? We've actually, so, Some of the experience that we really enjoy when we're covering a film for the channel is not actually when we agree on a film. It's when we disagree on a film.

I love, because we've gotten to a place where we are able to disagree, and it can get pretty passionate and heated. But we both, like, she does not back off from her stance. I will not back off from mine. And I like seeing someone whose perspective tends to be very close to mine have such a different take on specific films. I'm like, wow, I did not expect you to have a complete 180 opinion, you know, of this specific film or this moment, or the ending, for example, she's much more forgiving with an ending that comes out of left field than I am. For me, it's like, no, you've been building up 90% of your movie for this ending. And like, if it's not that, I'm like, what the hell? She's like, no, that was okay.

It's fine. The movies are, I'm like, no, that's bad. You don't do that, you know? Especially, like ambiguous endings. Oh, like open end? Like inception or something? Yeah. I mean, I think inception is like the exception, right?

For you? Well, I think for that film, in my opinion, it doesn't really matter what the ending is. It's what you want it to be really, because that's what the movie is about. No spoilers. So I feel like for that one in particular, no. But there's others where I feel like the ending is just not as strong as the main buildup to that ending. I'm like, it's kind of a disservice to the entire film.

She's able to kind of be like, okay, this is what I've enjoyed. I'm going to still enjoy it. And that doesn't taint her experience. So in a weird way, has this better your guys' like conflict resolve communication? Actually, yeah. Yes, it has great. Thank you. Yeah.

It has. We, like, it's more of a debate now. We're like, you know, we're not cooking at home tonight. Oh, okay. All right. I guess we're getting takeout. You know, we're too. Well, can you guys recall an experience in any of the filming that you've done

where you've learned something about the other person in real, time it was being recorded. You're like, I didn't know that about Ari or I didn't know that about Denise. Can you guys recall any moment where that occurred? I wouldn't say like one specific moment. It's a collection of moments where I've actually seen how much empathy he has and how much he really tries to put himself in other people's shoes. I'm not like that at all. I'm like I try to, you know, be open to other people's opinions, but there are certain topics in where I'm like, no, that's not excusable. You're terrible.

You suck. And I tend to be, like, pretty firm in that. So I was like, oh, wow. Like, he's shown me a lot of empathy, like, obviously throughout the course of our relationship. But actually seeing it in real time for characters that are a little harder to understand, I think, seeing that was kind of cool. You're kind of cool, I guess. Damn, you got more attractive.

Thank you. Just a little bit. Good job. That's hard. My wife has found me so much more unattractive since doing this job. What a difference. She's not even here. Oh, she's right there.

This is why she finds me unattractive. I don't even notice her in the crowd. Ooh. Do you have an answer? She gave you all this praise and you're like, I got nothing for her. I learn absolutely nothing about her. You know what? count anymore because you have to remind it.

Yeah, yeah. Let's get to the next one. No, come on. I think, well, I think you're harder on yourself than, you know, then who you really are. I do think you have a lot of empathy. I do agree that with some topics, she's like, this is how she navigates that and there's no way of moving her.

Yeah. But she's become a lot more flexible throughout the years, and I've seen her grow throughout the past couple of years, especially with some harder topics. She's like, well, I can, I can, I don't, she's like, I don't agree with it, but I can now start to understand why a character could do something like that. When three years ago, she'd be

like, that guy has to go. That guy has to die. He cannot develop. There's no way. I'm never following that guy. Now she actually gives the benefit of the growth. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Damn. That's awesome. I see why you guys hang out with each other. It's almost like we get along.

Almost like you get along. Actually, I mean, can't bring up the Odyssey? Yeah, yeah. So I know these two to skip movies more than almost everybody else that I know even though like we have to skip movies a lot fortunately with a team that we have it's more like we get to draw straws now and decide who gets to actually these guys skip

all the time and then I texted Ari yesterday like man I really wish you could watch the Odyssey and he's like actually we did we got to watch it we did and I was like you went to the movie that's insane how does it change the way I don't really have like a specific question here

but I feel like it's coming is that How was it going to... I know you guys don't go to new releases. So what was the experience like going to a new release? Was there a feeling like, I am just grateful to be here, or was it met with, I wish I was reacting to this and people were watching? Was it conflicting or was it just able to be accepting?

You know, may I? So it's interesting because when you're... And you know this. When you're reacting to a movie, you're very precisely dissecting it in real time. Yeah. Not just for the critique purpose, but also you're listening to your inner self,

how you're being impacted emotionally with the story, with the music, with the cinematography, yada, yada. So you're very present. There's no room for, you know, you can't disassociate in the middle of a reaction. You have to be there locked in. So for a person, you know, we both have ADHD and get very bad depending on how tired we are.

And, you know, we ground each other when we're reacting and we get to be more present. We get to kind of pick apart more of the things that we enjoy of the film versus just passively watching it like any normal viewer would. So there are movies where we're like, there are movies where we're like, I think if I was reacting to this, I would have maybe enjoyed it more. Or for example, you know, does that happen to you too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for The Odyssey in particular, I mean, it's Nolan, guys, right? It's freaking Nolan. we were lucky enough to have a theater near us that was projecting it in 70 mil.

We got to watch it in that format. And it was, I mean, if you're going to go out of your way to go watch anything right now, go watch that in that format. As Nolan intended. As Nolan intended. Because it is a spectacle. It really is. It was really worth it. And we had a blast.

That's cool that you guys got to have that for yourselves in that realm. And I know that when it came to like Avengers Endgame, you guys have said that that is an experience that you wish you could read. live. So now we're going into Doomsday. What is it about Doomsday that you think, how do you, okay, but I know you're creative, you like to write. So I'm going to ask you a bit of a creative question here. What do you think Doomsday has to do to recreate that feeling without simply copying Avengers Endgame? I want you to create the whole Marvel movie right now with all 40 characters. Does everyone have like three hours? Here's my pitch. Marvel, I hope you're listening. No, I think You know, there's this expectation because we know that Secret Wars is also coming.

So I think a lot of people are expecting for it to be another Infinity War and end game type of thing. And we actually talked about this. I feel like the way that they should change things up for Doomsday is by actually giving us a happy ending. But it's a Pyrrhic win. As in, yes, you won, but at what cost? Oh, he finished the sentence with you. That was cool. He has a helmet too.

Yeah, that's awesome. It's really sick. So I think that's the way that you can really capture the audience, I think. Because, again, there's that expectation where, like, yes, everyone's going to lose. And then in the next one, everyone's going to win. Or, like I said, you know, you have a parric win. And then in the next one, you just mess everyone up and just give us the saddest, most tragic ending ever. And then we're just all traumatized.

Just an inverse of the experience. Right? Why is Thor crying? That is the ultimate question. That is a great question. We want to know why is Thor crying. That's true. Why is Thor crying, guys?

Which returning character in Avengers Doomsday are you most excited for, like, as a fan, but kind of worries you as storytellers? Oh, man. I, look, I'm very excited to see the X-Men in there, right? We saw Cyclops. We saw Professor X. We saw Magneto. We saw the big, you know, the OGs. I'm hoping that they, in the United States.

hoping that they don't tone it down. I'm hoping that they really lead into the tone of the film. What we saw in the trailer seems very dark. And I hope that that's just like 5% of what the tone is actually going to be. We think it's dark. We think it's here. I want them to go here. And I want us to be like, whoa, like they're fighting each other, but this time it's not like civil war. This time it's like, oh, it's permanent. Like this is going to have massive consequences. And for a specific character, I mean, I got pretty hype when I saw that shot of Cyclops. in the, you know, OG suit, finally, comic accurate suit, doing that optic blast.

I was like that. I've been waiting to see that for years and now seeing that in live action. I was freaking out, man. Yeah, yeah. Denise? I grew up hating Magneto. And as I grow, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I love... Wait, hey, hey, hey, hey, wait, one second, one second. Can you give me two seconds, I will redeem myself, I promise. Because, like, he was like the villain, right? Oh, terrible. Oh, he's doing awful things and something like that. to not like the film.

No, I mean, when you're a child, you don't really see the complexities and nuances. And the older I started getting, I was like, oh, well, maybe there's a couple of things where Magneto kind of has a point, right? So I really hope that we get at least something resembling a resolution for Charles's and, I'm calling a Magneto, Eric's friendship. But also, you know, the brotherhood that is there, but also the fact that they're on two opposites. sides of the same spectrum. Right? So, like, that is a relationship that I hold very dear. And Magneto is a character that I actually really, really love.

Yeah. So I'm just like, I hope they do it justice. Because it's been how many years since the last X-Men movie? It's been years, you guys. I don't know. Like, give us something satisfying, you know? If it's going to be a send-off, make them fight to the death. That's a good point. That's a good point.

I want us to be conflicted, too. I want us to actually what I really hope, for is that we see it, whatever Doom's argument is for doing what he's going to do, and we go, damn, he has a point. Or he is right. Yeah, yeah. It's like, he's the dude that's actually right, but we have to root for our heroes, but he has a point.

I feel like that would be, that would be devastating. If we have to be like, if he wins and it's like, he deserves to win because he's the one that's right in this case, that'd be more interesting than getting the same thing over and over again, you know? You guys had a very successful trailer reaction to that. Do you, offhand, this is like one of the hardest questions for someone who does reactions task. But I know you guys haven't done as many trailer reactions. Yeah.

What would you say, though, is your favorite trailer reaction or movie trailer that you've ever experienced? Favorite movie trailer ever? Yeah, if you had to throw one out or trailer reaction. I remember, I mean, we didn't have a channel at the time, but I remember when we saw the trailer for Spider-Man No Way Home for the first time. Yes, I wish we had a channel by then, but we were jumping up and down

alone in our apartment, you know? That Hello Peter moment, we're like, oh my God, oh my God, they're doing it, they're going to do it. You know, we got so hyped. It was worth everything. We waited like the entire day to see if they would drop that thing. It's still one of my fondest memories of before having the channel. But I think post-channel, it's tough.

It kind of just, like, it all blurs together. I'm like, what did we? What did we watch recently that we went like, wow, that is good? We didn't react to it, but we saw the Dune trailer. That thing looks sick, man. I'm so excited for that. I'm like, dude, the visuals there. And I mean, I was just so impressed by the consistency,

especially knowing that the cinematography is not the same person. So I was expecting it to look a lot more, you know, a lot different than what I was used to. And it's like, oh, no, it still looks like Dune, which is good. Yeah. You know? No. Yeah.

That is a freaking beautiful trick. Every time I see that one. Well, it's fun talking about the movies because, and it's like he brought up, like Tom Holland recently was saying how he absorbed so many podcasts and criticisms so that way he could make brand new day the best film possible in service of the fans. And so there's like a flip question I'd ask you guys then. As you've been doing this throughout the years, has there been. a criticism that you guys have ever received that made you guys like think about your approach or yourself because maybe it rang true a little bit and you had to adapt and change your approach does anything stand out to you? So quite recently actually because we're very active in the

comment section. We're like always there as soon as we post the video we like to interact with the community like to see what people are saying. Quite recently like a week ago or two weeks ago someone was like, oh, you're rooting for this guy who's a really bad, evil person. This guy, like, talking about me, right? He's like, oh, Ari always does this. He always roots for the person that you shouldn't be rooting for. And I'm like, no, we have to have media literacy.

Like, it's okay to say that is bad, but I'm just... What movie was this? It was for Evil Dead Burn. Okay. So very recent. Okay. And you guys all seen this? Okay.

Well, I'm not going to give any details. I'll kind of dance around it, but there's a really bad person in that. And at first, I know, evil dead. And at first, right, the first five minutes of the movie, I was like, wow, this seems like a very toxic situation. But let's just wait and see. Because we don't,

we haven't seen what that, like, previously what that relationship has been like, has done. We don't know if this is the first time this has happened. Is this a recurring thing? Right? Details. Yeah. So let's wait. That's all I was saying. Person was like, oh, this guy did something extremely bad and evil. And he's saying,

oh, let's see. It's like, no. I'm just saying, let's wait for context. Yeah. So in that regard, I'm like, there's only so much you can, you know, at the end of the day, people are going to interpret what they want to interpret or what they expect from you most of the time. So, you know, try to be as clear as you can be, especially with opinions like this, because people, unfortunately, they tend to, sometimes, not everybody, but sometimes it happens

where they see that one thing and all they can do is see in black and white and they lack that nuance. And we try to reiterate time and time again in the channel, like, it's a lot of, it's It's a story. Like, obviously, if this was real life, I would probably be reacting a lot, you know, a lot crazier if I'm seeing someone get their head chopped off in real life in a movie.

I'll be freaking out, right? So I'm like, same thing goes for a nuance where you, the story is there to explore these uncomfortable emotions, and we have to be honest about those uncomfortable emotions. And it's not as easy as saying, oh, that's bad, that's good. I mean, that's very easy to do, but it's not the point of the story, right? Yeah. So I would say that that would be the biggest thing.

Yeah, I think the moment that he was referring to, where he was like, you know, let's give it some time, you know, characters, we got to see, you know, we got to see the whole picture. And I was like, no, that is a terrible person. I was like, already locked into it. In my defense, I've been burned before by making quick judgments where I'm like, oh, he's a bad guy, for sure, bad person. And then there's like a whole plot to this mid-moving, and you're like, oh, shoot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I look like an animal. Well, I think one of the things that we get a lot is that people say, oh, you guys love every single movie. you watch. You don't hate anything. And it's like, okay, well, no. We like to give our criticism with following a trend here with as much empathy as we can. Because

like you, like the, as the Rejects just said, right? Like it really does take a village to make a movie. And like if I'm not going to say it to this person to their face, in that exact same way, I have no business saying it in that way safely behind my little screen. You know,

That's not the type of person than I am, and that's not who he is either. Like, we want to say things in a way where, yes, this is our opinion. We didn't really love this all that much, but we try to compliment sandwich it a little bit as much as we can. And like, we're never going to be, sorry, I'm speaking for you as well, do you feel free to interrupt. Go ahead. So far, so good. So far so good. Thank you.

I may proceed. I feel like when we're critiquing something, you know, we try to be as kind as possible. possible. We're never going to be the type of people that just hate on a movie just because it feels good. You know, when you just hate and you just get on that train and sometimes you just want to like, you just want to get it all out, right? But that's not the place for that. Like, I would much rather think about what comes out of my mouth and then kind of digest what it is that I'm thinking and why I'm feeling that way instead of just saying, oh, this movie was ass.

Has there, are you guys willing to admit to any movie? right now that you were like, that you wanted to just rail into, but decided against doing it? I know the consequences when you... Does it have to be a movie? Oh, yeah.

Is there something that, like, you experienced you're like, uh, but I... This is my approach, but I do want to rail into it, but I'm not going to think the approach. You know what I'm about to say. I have some feelings about this season of House of the Dragon. Okay.

In particular, for my girl, Reneira. Okay. The rightful queen, okay? Come at me in the commentation. I won't say anything just in case there are some people that are still catching up or whatever, but I'm not loving the characterization.

I'm not loving the writing. And I'm being a lot more... I'm trying to take a page out of his book, actually, where I'm like, you know what? Let's let it play out, right? Let's see what the season finale brings. There's only so much they're new in one episode.

Yeah, I think that's it for right now that all I can think of. I feel like on that. My wife and I have two very different reactions going on into that now. It's been a while, so I can't remember exactly how we, how our, you know,

conversation after watching it was on the channel, but I remember not being 100% pleased with it and that's for the last of us, season two. I am a massive fan of the video games. I think it's a great story. part two people it's very divisive

I understand and it's supposed to be that way it's supposed to be a story that's hard to consume that puts you in a tough tough place right and you have to really make hard decisions and I really enjoyed that about that story and I think for the live action they really diluted a lot of decisions

that I wanted to see them commit to I'm like if you're going to do it do it right and there's episodes that I think they absolutely nail like that specific moment in part two that we all know that moment was like one to one. Episode one, season one, it was like a one to one of a video game.

I'm like, this is looking great. But then as the show progressed, I'm like, there's a couple of characters that should be popping in right now that are not. There are a couple of things that should happen right now that are also not happening, and we're losing a lot of that depth

that the story has. So it's like losing colors. You know, you had a beautiful rainbow, and now we're just stripping colors away and then you're left with a very monochromatic. Because you're trying to make it more palatable. Yeah, and then you end up with a very monochromatic version. of what used to be a very cool story.

So that's my answer. I'd agree with you, man. Last of us, who's my favorite game of all time, despite how divisive is. It's very divisive. I have not paid attention at all to the time. How are we on time? 10 minutes.

Do we have any... By the way, I should be fair and share the platform here. Does anybody have any questions they'd like to throw out to Ari and Denise? I'm coming to... Will this reach you? I'll try to reach you. Can we teamwork it?

Hi. Hi. Congrats on your first live show. You guys are doing amazing. Thank you. Thank you. I was curious. As digital creators, how do you guys feel about the wave of digital creators that are coming into film,

like with obsession and back rooms? And how is that affecting how you navigate as, like, with your craft as filmmakers, like, how is that affected the way that you navigate and move? That's a great question. He didn't hear any of it, by the way. Yeah, I was tough to hear. I'm so sorry. We tried.

We tried a different mind? I was like, wow, I turn to you to guys. You're like, oh, what is that? The question was about, like, with obsession and back rooms. I think you just asked it so much better than me. With the digital... I actually know a little bit of what the answer here. Is this better? Can you hear me?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, better? There we go. Thank you so much. Okay, yes. My question was, as digital creators, how do you feel about the rise of digital creators, like, in entertainment, like with obsession and backrooms, and how is that affected?

how you move through the space and how you affect your craft as filmmakers. Okay. So your question is about content creators going into filmmaking right now and how that's become very popular and how do we feel about that moving forward? Yeah. It's awesome, dude. You're aspiring filmmaker, director and writer as well. Yeah.

So some of you know this, some of you don't, but our objective throughout this entire time doing this is not just that, I mean, obviously we have this. It serves as a diary for us, video diary, but it also has taught us so much about creative decisions when it comes to writing, when it comes to the technical aspect of movies, practicals, CGI, like everything that goes into it, we've been able to learn so much about it and seen so much behind the scenes and now being able to see people that come from YouTube, that started, you know, with their creativity,

doing something small that they could actually afford to just shoot first without having to worry about success and do something they were passionate about. You know, you always hear it from lot of like, especially filmmakers that have YouTube channels or cinematographers or people that want to show and teach the technical side of it, everybody will say the same thing. It's not about the gear, right? When it's about when you're filming something, it's about the story. So seeing that come to fruition through exponential, you know, development of storytelling through putting a lot, like for example, Kane Parsons, putting so many shorts out there before he even got to backrooms and using all of that expertise by the time he got to backrooms

to actually deliver a really compelling feature film or in the case of obsession, which is so cool to see someone that comes, you know, that has that comedic background. The thing about comedy is that it's extremely, it's probably one of the hardest genres to get right, but it teaches you a whole lot about timing and how easily adaptable that is to horror is insane to me.

And seeing that with obsession, it was blowing my mind. And it's very inspiring to see that creators are able to make that leap now. now, you know, Market Plyer also had his movie with Iron Lung. Also awesome to see, you know, such a massive creator be like, you know what? I don't have to make a movie, but I'm going to. And he did a great job. So, you know, it's definitely opening up those doors.

And I think it's important for other creators like us. It's definitely inspired us a lot for what's to come to see that it's possible and to see the scale that you could achieve by doing so. I think it's also a great way to kind of shake things up a bit in Hollywood. You know, I feel like this does not go for all movies, obviously, but we're getting a lot of regurgitation, right? And we're getting the same actors, same, very similar stories. And again, to clarify, not all, but I feel like when we have content creators making movies, it's a way to show that, first of all, you can do it and you can do it well,

and you can do it like Markiplier completely independently, which I respect the hell. out of, but also you can cast nobodies and your movie will still kill it. It's about talent, it shouldn't be about the reputation and the name and I understand. It is still a business. You want to make a profit. I get it. But I feel like we need to widen that door just a little bit more for other talent that is out there.

And that's not just actors, that is directors, writers, so many people that are so talented that don't have the privilege of having so much. money or being a Nepo baby, that they can just do it. And again, if you're talented, the Nepo baby title does not matter at all. You're talented. But like, I like seeing more and more people coming to the forefront that, you know, they understand what it's like to struggle. They understand what it's like to cry over that keyboard and just, you know, you wrote four words in the past two weeks and that's it. Like, I like, because they know what it's like that. When they have that microphone in their hands, what they say is going to, you know, it's going to

matter. And that has me very excited. I find that very inspiring. Yeah. I mean, I'm talking a lot with Ari lately about, I'm always asking like, how's the writing going? You guys, like, buckling down. Like, a lot of people who get into YouTube don't, like, we didn't start this with the intention of, I want to be an influencer. Yeah, no, definitely not. Sort of happened. So I'm going to get this question from you, but I've been asked to do one thing. Oh my God, the guy looks just like Reed Richards, Pedro Pascal. Oh, my God, I got a one, hey, man, my God. He looks just like it.

It's like a fucking nuts. They wanted me just mentioned that the Hey Arnold panel is happening on the main stage right now. But if you guys want to go check that out at the same time, I went into their parking spot earlier and I had to move. So, you know, if you don't want to go. You don't have to go. But you should go if you want to go. I'll say that too. You had a question, sir.

Go to you. Testing, testing. All right. So this is coming from me being a rising concert creator myself. What was it like trying to navigate in an every changing world of media where it's seems like it seems like they're trying to capitalize on content creation right now because like on TikTok it seems like you're getting like it's so hard to get views and they're trying to bait you into buying views and it seems like it's easy to get turned away from like what's

natural natural quality content to like AI built content or just a repeat of everything over and over again so like what is your like your input on trying to navigate that and trying to stick out against all of that that is an excellent question so it's how AI is affecting right now at the platform, all different platforms? I mean, it's going to sound a little corny, but I think it does come from a real true feeling. I do think you have to stick to authenticity. I think having, you know, those rough edges, they make you who you are. And I think showing that and being vulnerable and allowing people to see that in you is what makes it valuable to begin with. Is what makes people feel like, oh, I'm getting to know you slowly. I can understand

who you are or what you, what your, you know, what your drive is or what you're, what your drive is or what you're fighting for or what you're talking about. And you can go a little bit deeper than just, you know, talking about what you're saying. Just by showing, you know, just wear your heart on your sleeve, man. I think that's how you fight artificial anything, right? Like everything is so, yeah, it's so filtered nowadays that, you know, you have to be a bit more, just be rough, be honest, enjoy what you're doing, and be happy while doing so. I think that's, for me, that's the main thing.

Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not saying. saying all AI is evil, just to clarify. Skynet. But, sky net. I mean, listen, we see how that works out. Be nice to chat, GPT. No, but I think the imperfections, like you mentioned, is what makes art art, right?

When you listen to, for example, music from the 70s or the 80s, the sound, the voices are not nearly as polished, and it sounds so much more real because of that. And you also see it in movies from the 70s 70s or the 80s and like a lot of Steven Spielberg does that a lot where you have a group of people sitting around the table and they're all

speaking over each other at the same time and can you hear each and every line of dialogue clearly? No you can't but guess what? You're actually immersed. You're turning off your brain and you're turning on your intuition, your feeling, your heart and you're perceiving the movie

from a different place right? And I think that's something that we need to hold on desperately. It's feelings are not a bad thing, right? Let's cut the BS when it comes to being nonchalant. Let's be shalant. And that's what's because that's what separates us from AI. Yeah. It is the imperfection. It is the flaws that truly makes something what they are. Right? And I feel like I like seeing more of that, you know? It's the imperfections and that's what I'm looking for, you know, in art in general. Beautifully said. Beautifully said.

you guys did excellent today. Great. Now we can walk off stage to have a heart attack right now. Thank you. Yeah, I'm about to go offstage and keep. You guys, I was so happy that you guys showed up for this

your first ever live anything. Apparently they've never even done a live stream before. So, their first ever live thing ever. Speaking of which, want to shout to ICI's 23. Tom plays 5981. Hey, somebody came in while you guys were talking and Angel Gennorio 9542.

Christian Unpranounceable. Wow, so many. Eerlo 1. Oh, my God. You got a lot of fans in here. No one are 4. So J.P. Elliot Bullock. Cam Franco, you guys should do live stream sometime. Nick and Doug. Wow. And Brett Buccian, thank you guys.

Everything you guys contributed to the live stream right now is all going to Multicon, going to Mental Health Charities. We are booming right now. So thank you guys so much. Are you in the East Media Nights. Thank you both for showing up. Thank you so much, guys. It's been awesome. Thank you guys.

Is this on? All right, cool. Just want to give another reminder that if you want to watch the Hey Arnold panel that is happening on the main stage right now. And additionally, they were saying I took a photo of it to make sure I did not botch this. Everybody go to the Make an Impact auction table because every dollar goes to make an impact. And like everybody said, everyone on the live stream, every dollar is going to make an impact as well. Thank you guys. Next up, we're going to have Heroes Reforged.

Double Dunker. That was a perfect image. Hey Joe. You hung up on me yesterday without saying bye. And I'm never going to forget that. I remember that feeling. Joe has never been short with me and he was short with me yesterday. And I'm going to be like, now every time I look at you, I'm like, he might get mad at me for calling him.

I will be haunted by this forever, Joe. Guys, multi-con has been a crazy event. And next up here, again, live chat, how are you guys doing? Everything you guys contribute is going directly to make an impact meeting. Everything's going to go to mental health organizations. So many guys have already contributed. The Real Rejects panel happened. We just had media nets do their first ever.

Next up are three amigos who are not fully paying attention. Pay attention. Pay attention. Gosh. They challenged me to say their names correctly. So here we go. These guys are heroes reforged. We got Adam Hevelvlaek.

Habalek. Adam Havleck. That checks out. Augustine something or another. There you go. I'll sit here. I'll sit there, yeah, I guess. Okay.

And then, Patrick Navarro, yeah. I got that right here. Nailed it, nailed it. All right, I guess here. I'll go right here. Or, no, all three together. We'll make more sense.

Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, let's do that. Here, let's switch with you. Okay, great. Thank you. Wow. This chair was made for tiny people. Let's get the tallest guy on the shortest chair.

Do you want to sit on this chair? No, I'm good. You good? Okay. Can you remind me how long? How long have you guys have known each other for? Oh, my God. Oh, Lordy.

15 years. Together as a group? Yeah. About 15 years. But this is a tale as old as time at this point. Hector and I met in 2005-ish, 2006-ish. 06, 2006. Yeah, we went to school together.

I was in an improv class. We were going to an animation school. In college. And it's the perfect class to meet Hector in because Hector is an amazing impover. We got in a group together. and then the class was over, and I thought I'd never see him again. We didn't really, like, become friends' friends at that point

until I got my first industry job. And then Hector was the guy giving me my 3D stereoscopic test. He's like, can you see this? And I saw him, and I was like... He was an optometrist. He was an optometrist, yeah. I hired him. Yeah, he hired me for my first big gig.

Yeah. And then after that, we just became good friends. And then Adam comes and sits next to me. at that same Stereographer VFX job. Confused everyone because everybody was like, Adam, Augustine, nope, not quite. Everybody called me Adam, yeah. And so ever since then, we all moved to L.A.

and then started the YouTube thing, and then we've been here. And now we're here with you. I hope I got this right. So I have superhero news, hyperheroes, and now those are 40. Don't remind me, Greg. I was trying to make sure I'm getting all these timelines. Yeah, RIP, all that content from superhero news was deleted

recently. You forgot the film pundits. Film punts. Oh, well, that's a little bit. We know. We have one hardcore guy. Oh, man. That's how you know you've been with us for a long time. What would you say has changed the most about your friendship during this time?

And what would you say has never changed during this time? Wow. That's actually a very good question. I would say I trusted and knew both of these guys pretty early on in our relationship. Like, I feel like I'm a really good judge of character. Adam and I had become pretty good friends

sitting next to each other during long hours at work, so we really got to know each other. And then Hector was a lead supervisor, so he didn't hang out with us too much at work. And so after we all just kind of got to know each other, I feel like over the years, everything that I believed about them at the very beginning still stays true.

Like, they're just good. guys. We wouldn't be together and working together for so long if there was anything that like was big and massive or has changed in between us because we all know each other fairly well. We've spent a lot of time with each other more time than sometimes our significant others. That's how it goes. Through tough times too because it hasn't been completely easy. I'm sure you don't know the difficulties of running a channel and doing all of this stuff. But yeah, I wouldn't say a lot has changed, but like I said, all the stuff that I knew about them

is just stronger every time. I love these guys. I think the relationship we have, our friendship has remained pretty solid while the worlds around us totally changed. We went from working together in the

post-production industry to then YouTube stuff, you know, and then everything going really good, and then everything kind of crumbling, and then, you know, relationships, family, all this other stuff. Yeah. Going to Europe together.

Yeah. Yeah. Getting hammered. Yeah, getting hammered. That's right. Also, by the way, thank you so much for having us. I didn't get to tell you earlier. Thank you.

I don't know if it was a weird time to say that. We're honored to be. You fit in so perfectly. He's got the beard and the glasses. Yeah. You look like one of us. I look like one of you guys. What would you say was the thing that made Heroes

Reforge really form its own identity? After everything you guys have done, we've listed three other ones outside of Heroes were forged. Was there a particular video that you guys had done where you're like, you know what, this is actually really our own staple right now? Honestly, even outside of a video, this is the first time that we like had complete total 100% control over everything. Because before the other stuff that we were doing,

it was all owned by other people and we were contributors to it. And there's pluses and minuses to that. I think in our experience there were more minuses to that. So I think with Heroes Reforge, the exciting part was, this is completely ours, we don't have to answer to anyone, we can do whatever we want, and if we're doing something that we're not enjoying, let's change it up, let's do something else.

But then the big thing for us was we had never done TV show reactions ever. Or really any reactions besides trailers. Trailers, yeah, trailers was the big thing. And I thought, well, let's try it with Mandalorian and see if it works. And it popped off pretty quick. So I was like, okay, there's something here. for us to mine and experiment with. Have you seen that show?

Yeah. It's a pretty good. It's a pretty good. It's pretty good. It's like a movie. The show was more like a movie than the movie was. Hey, that's a good idea. They should do a movie.

You should do that. Son of a bit. Half a season. Put it into one movie. Smart. Smart. So you guys had all this industry experience beforehand and all this other hosting stuff, but like you said, you had never done reactions.

And I know what it was like when reactions were first a new thing and what the optics and stigma was that a lot of people have forgotten about. So I'm curious, sorry with you, Hector, what was your preconceived notion of what reactions were like and how has it changed since doing Heroes Were Forged? Oh, that's a really good question.

That's actually not on this list. What? Are you serious? I have 20 questions, but that's not one of that. That's a good one. We don't deserve that many questions, man. That's so kind. That's so nice. We're too good to answer this,

but go for it, Hector. Oh my God. I think when we started, I had watched a lot of YouTube reactions of stuff. And my, like, appeal, the thing that appealed to me was, especially with younger people, because we're old heads. But I love seeing young people that it's such, it's like the main one that have never seen Star Wars. And they hit play, they're like, okay, I guess I'll watch it. And the best thing is when they get one over. and by the end of it they're like, that was great.

And you as a fan, you go, yeah, I'm so excited about that. So that's the most appealing thing, I think, to me. And then once we started doing it, I always try to keep that in mind. I try not to yuck anybody's yum. There's been times where some things have come up and it's been like, hey, should we watch this? And oftentimes it's me. Sometimes it's other of us.

And we go, maybe not because I know I don't love that. and I don't want to put a camera on me and go, eh, it's not my fit. You know, I don't want to yuck anybody's yumb. So I think since doing them, I really appreciate, like it's a tricky balance to do this. Be a hype person, be a fan,

but be genuine and sincere and share your own thoughts while still like, you know, acknowledging when something's good, being realistic if something's not great. It's tough. It's a tough balance. It's not, you know, And it's also...

Putting yourself out there. Yeah. Yeah. It's also tough to do all of this and not try to overthink it because you're just like, I'm just going to watch this thing for the first time. And I'm filming myself. Here's how I'm honestly reacting to something. It's hard because you're thinking, you're calculating a bunch of stuff in your head.

Everything I just said, I don't want to piss anybody off. I don't want to yuck anybody's yom. I want to be honest. I want to talk about this critically or passionately or whatever. So I think there's a lot of stuff that I've grown to appreciate since we started doing them. and yeah good question for me

what's really changed is not necessarily like our process but for me it was figuring out that somebody would listen to me like I came from a very small town I never thought that I would have any kind of a platform

any kind of a voice nothing I had no goals to be on YouTube to have any of this that we're doing now it was just me and Adam just having fun and I was like yeah that might be fun it might be okay and then suddenly like I'm put in this position where people are listening to me and I'm just like oh wow like what I say really kind of does matter and so I'm not saying it like in a braggy kind of way but what I'm trying to say is that anybody can bring their voice out and like have an opinion and be heard and everybody's opinions are valid when it comes to this kind of thing because if I can do something like this

absolutely any one of you anybody out there you guys in the audience or anybody on the live stream can do something like this. And we've heard stories of people actually starting their channels because they were inspired by us. I used to watch you in middle school and now I'm a dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just went to Universal Studios on Tuesday or Monday. I don't know.

And I ran into a guy. He's like, dude, I've been watching you since I was 17. Wow. And he's like, I'm 87 now and I'm like, oh my God, I'm so old. But really it's been like more of a personal change for me because, like I said, I never looked for any of this, but I'm super happy to be here now. I'm super happy to contribute to this team

and your guys' team and this event and everything. I've seen my voice here, and I appreciate my voice, and I want to let everybody know that you also can contribute in a way, in your own way, whatever you feel comfortable doing. You know, honestly, the whole thing with reactions I thought was really appealing was the fact that we had so much production experience, and he will not stop trying to pose toys for the entire panel. No. You put toys in his hands?

Yeah. He's not here. I think that was the interesting part was figuring out, like, what's our angle? What's going to be, like, the unique thing that we can potentially give an audience if we were able, lucky enough to build one? And I think it was the fact that we were working on so many Marvel movies. And it was also, like, a tricky balance of, like, working on Marvel movies, but having YouTube channel and not letting things slip that we're not supposed to be talking about. That was complicated. Like, we know the ending to Doomsday. It's crazy.

Yeah. Yeah, we've done it in 2010. Perfect example. And if you donate right now. Perfect example was when we were working on Age of Ultron, we knew that vision lifted the hammer, Mileneer. And to avoid talking about that and still talking about the movie with excitement, you know, that was a really tricky thing.

A web to navigate. So I think that's what was kind of fun when I saw, I mean, you and John, I've been watching your video since I think 2013, 2012, long time. and it was like your guys's videos were a big part of like oh I think we could do this I think this would be really fun yeah yeah like these guys are very entertaining I think we could be very entertaining too we've been very entertaining too we've been talking about you guys but it's definitely not we've been talking about you guys the entire time we've been a channel basically Greg gets a text for me at two in the morning and I'm like help me it's been the gold standard for a long time so yeah what about the well I appreciate that I'm just going to brush past that but thank you the the emotional because you were talking about being in your head and I know what that's like, I feel like it usually takes me a while, to this day to like get out of your head and start finding that flow. Has there been any part of the emotional journey of doing the reactions where you have discovered,

have you unlocked emotions that you thought you had a difficult time expressing that now you can express better? I would say just in general, just growing up, period, I was always very scared to be publicly emotional. Okay. And I hated public speaking. Like if I had to do a book report in front of a class, I'd be in a corner and I'd be like, everyone leave me alone. Don't touch me. Don't talk to me. Don't give me words of encouragement. Nothing. But I just found it easier and I think part of it is like having an amazing team to work with, amazing friends who are so supportive that like if one person has a certain emotional reaction

to something, there's no judgment. Like I feel very safe, even if the internet says whatever they says. But I feel like we've been very lucky that we are so open with our emotions and our opinions that we found an incredible audience who also is like that. So I think that's been incredibly rewarding for the last 10, 15 years. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. For me, also that, but also learning to speak a little bit more on the spot. I used to get really tripped up a lot with a lot of the things that I've been doing. And a lot of people don't know this, but this isn't my full-time job.

I actually have a 9-5 since we've been doing this whole thing. So fitting that, but also the skills that I've learned, in making quick connections in the topics that we're talking about and like being able to talk about things has been hugely advantageous to me professionally like in my professional career. And so doing that, like hanging out with these guys, being able to flex that muscle. Like if you don't use it, you lose it obviously. Like you need to be able to use that to learn how to talk to people. And I've learned that with you guys because it's easy like in our post discussion to

forget everything and like just you know get tripped up and be like wait what what happened in that scene or like what happened there or what emotion did I feel during this but now I feel like it's just on autopilot whenever I do it because we've been doing it for so long it's just the words are there and the

connections between things happen much quicker for me it turns out any office job is easier than recalling all of the details of the MCU I mean so sorry that's hard. Any office job is easier than that.

What phase are we in? I don't know. Hey, did you get those TPS report? Yeah, no problem. Yeah, no problem. I printed it. There you go. Do you know the timeline of Moon Night?

This shit is easy. Yeah, yeah. You know, I will also say that the audience constantly telling us over the years, I feel like I'm sitting in a room with friends. Right, right. It has also been incredibly encouraging. Yeah.

And you guys are rarely in the same room together. Well, nowadays, yes. COVID kind of ruined everything. Yeah. Yeah, ever since COVID. We just, we just haven't been funny because at one point we were doing a podcast

in the same room, people were like, can you go back to being remote? Yeah. I think I like that better. Yeah. What do you want? Well, I mean, with all this,

everyone here has seen Spider-Man brand-new day by this point. Spoilers! We talked spoilers? When working on, when we're researching for you guys, I of course came across your brand-new day review,

I'm just going to switch gears here now because we're talking superhero stuff. Yeah. And you brought up MCU. Where would you put Tom Holland's Spider-Man out of the ranking of the Spider-Man now. Oh, okay. Just in general, Tom Holland, or like a particular movie?

Like, amongst the Peter Parker? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think? What's the alternate question? Yeah. Well, I thought you're asking us to rank... What would I put Tom Holland as an actor amongst all the other actors? No, I thought you were asking us to rank brand-new day above all the, like, where

it kind of like lands in all the Spider-Man? Where would you put Tom Holland's Spider-Man amongst Toby and? Oh, man. That's a great question. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look. It's not a hot take And if you've watched our stuff

For any amount of time You know that I'm not a huge fan of Toby That I like Andrew But I really, really like Tom Holland. I think to me he's like my favorite Spider-Man And mainly it's because I feel Most connected to him for some weird reason. I'm not sure why.

I never really connected to Toby. I really think Andrew had a good take But it was brought down by whatever studio back-end experience was happening because those movies, I feel like suffered in the production. And so I feel like we're really getting to see a Spider-Man that's fully being supported by the production and also letting the acting just fly with a super talented actor and an amazing supporting cast. So it's really hard not to love.

Yeah. It's really hard not to love him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, which one's your favorite Spider-Man? Oh, shit. Not to put the pressure on you. I just participate that you would come my way. I, his movies aren't my favorite movies, but I would actually, it's, I think Spider-Man

2 is still my favorite movie, but I would actually say Andrew Garfield is my favorite. Dude, yes. It's like, it's weird. Like, it's not my, it's great. And none of his movies are my favorite, but he's my favorite one of the three, although Tom Holland and Brand New Day was so miraculous. Like, I was like, wow, I've never been so in love with Tom Holland until, right. You know what I think it is, too, is Andrew Garfield didn't get to keep going.

so in a way he's the most underdog of all of them which I think makes me underdeveloped, underutilized. It makes me think of Peter Parker. That's the most underdog thing is it like he got basically replaced without his, like, you know, I guess so to Tobin McGuire, but he did three movies and you know, so that's, I don't think that's a hot tip. There's a good take. I've been reading Ultimate Spider-Man and I'm always like this feels like

Andrew Dodd feel to me. I feel like I'm very nostalgic for Toby McGuire because my first job was working at a movie theater literally a week before Spider-Man 2 opened. Wow. So that's such a big part of my, my, like, teen years. But I do feel like Tom Holland has had the most opportunities to flex. Yeah. A lot of different sides of Peter Parker because he's been in Avengers movies and he's in his own four solo movies. That is a good point.

So I feel like he's been given more opportunities to really show us multiple sides of who Peter is. And there's so much, so many more places he still can go. Yeah. But, yeah, outside of that, I think probably Toby. And I love Andrew Garfield, too. Hector's our Spider-Man guy, though. Hector. It's Tom Holland.

Tom Holland's great. Wow. Not even... And you're talking about the Ultimate Spider-Man comics where... Brian Michael Bendis? But, oh, the original ones from... Yeah, not the Hickman one. Oh, interesting.

Okay, cool. Cool. Okay. I can see that. Wait, well, why is it? Why is... Good comics, by the way, guys. No, because, I mean, because you said Andrew Garfield, and I feel like,

Garfield's a good fit for that Peter Parker that's like older and married or the newer Ultimate Spider-Man comics but the OG are the best. What's the warning? How many minutes? What is it? Oh, okay. Oh, perfect. Beautiful.

Tom Holland, for the same reasons you guys said you know, anything, no shade if anybody prefers Sam Ramey Spider-Man or the Mark Webb Spider-Spiderman, but the new stuff I think has the most variety. And like you guys were saying, Tom Holland gets to do kind of the most stuff.

If people are like, I like six movies or seven movies now. I like Toby McGuire because he was kind of the nerdiest. And I'm like, well, Tom Holland can, I think, do that pretty well. He's pretty nerdy in Homecoming. And he's, you know, he's pretty nerdy in whenever he meets an Avenger. Yeah. Oh, we're using our made-up names. You know, like, I like that.

He's funny and, you know. And then in the new movie, he's ripped. Jesus. My God. In the bathtub, that scene? Oh, my God. You mean in the bathhouse? The bathhouse?

The bathroom? Amazing. What would you say is a superhero movie that... Blue Beetle. What would you call a superhero movie? What would you say is a superhero movie that everybody seems to love that you don't? Oh, God. What's a flip?

And also what is a flip of that? What's what that people don't like that you also love? Do I want to go down this? You absolutely do. You absolutely do, yeah. Batman versus Superman. In which direction? I do not.

I wouldn't say that I, it's not my cup of tea. There's very passionate people about it. Very passionate people about it. And I'm passionate about it in the opposite direction. Like, there's things that that movie does with Batman and Superman that just is not my vibe. And if you like it, that's fine. Like, that's fine. It's just not for me.

So that's my. That's a valid take. Valid take. Mine is the original three X-Men movies. Oh, yeah. Severely. Listen guys, Hugh Jackman Only convinced me that he was a good Wolverine until Logan

Like I did not like him as Wolverine until Logan We're gonna be an escort for Augustine when he leaves his connection Everybody in the chat just left Everybody in the audience got up and left The original three For me I even as when I was younger watching them They didn't hit the mark for me Even though we were getting X-Men material

I was like this doesn't feel 100% right And I don't think the movie's ever really hit the mark. So like Adam said, if you love them, awesome. For me, not my cup of tea. So I'm really excited where they're going to bring the X-Men and Wolverine and Hulk and all this stuff in the future. So I'm really looking forward to this. I'll pick, I don't dislike it. I like it.

I don't love it. I'll pick Matt Reeves the Batman. Oh, okay. Not my favorite. I mean, you know, right? It's fair. That one's definitely super well-made. but I think that's another great example of like

if it's your flavor, if it hits Yeah, I love it. Great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My favorite Batmobile, that's for sure. Dude, that's great. That car, I need to rewatch it, but I think one that I feel like is underrated

and I'll go to Bat for, but I need to rewatch it, to be fair, it's been a minute. I liked Birds of Prey a lot. Me too. And when that came out, we got people that like for us, I was like, why is everybody crapping? This is awesome.

This is so fun. And then Hugh and McGregor and Margot Robbie with the cocaine. Like, that's crazy. So that's my underrated that I'll go to bat for. Augustine. I'm sorry. There's an umbri on staring at me, and I cannot unsee it. Well, what I love hearing when you guys talk is you guys are so good at,

you seem like you handle disagreements so well. And I'm always fascinated by friends, like close friends who end up working together. It can still preserve that friendship. Yeah. How do you feel like, you know, I got better one, actually. Have you guys had a deal? disagreement ever that has actually made the channel better

after resolving it. Oh, that's a great question. I'm sure we have. Yeah. But I don't think it was anything about like a reaction video or like a take on a movie. I feel like it's mostly been about like back end production stuff.

Right, right. Like even right now, I'm sure you guys are seeing it too, but like getting a lot of copyright strikes or getting your videos taken down and having those hard discussions of like, do we continue doing this. Like, is this viable? Is this something we can continue doing? And that's a hard conversation to have between... And we just told everybody about this conversation. But it's a hard one, right? It is. It's no secret. We've posted about it. So like, but it's just like,

it's not necessarily disagreements, but like really facing the reality of what the social space is bringing and what YouTube is bringing and like making that conscious decision of like, we're continuing this, right? Like, this is going to... Not that we're on any verge of like anything. No, we're canceling. I'm not saying we're canceling anything, but like, you know, in the face of uncontrollable things that happen. Yeah. Like, what are those conversations look like?

And I think that's what our friendship and being such good friends really kind of helps. Yep. Because you need to have those conversations. That's a good point. Yeah. And then also figuring out, like, what does each person want to do and how can the group and everyone support that? You know, like, if one person's like, I don't really want to do reaction videos anymore, Do other people take over?

Do we pivot and do some complete new piece of content? Like, what do we do? So we're having those conversations now, like, almost every day. Have you liked or disliked something? Have you liked or disliked something that anybody else in the real rejects disagreed with you on? And you mean like in a movie-wise or a decision-wise? Movie-wise.

Tastes, movies, TV shows. Oh, my gosh. it's so weird when I'm in this position because I'm not this is a different part of your brain that answers versus the different part of your brain that's a question. How about you answer the question that I asked and then I will come up with an answer for you. I was straight here.

I don't think, I was going to say earlier, but then these guys were talking about production stuff or the like behind the scene stuff, I think one thing that helps if we do have like disagreements about, you know, Adam likes Matt Reeves, the Batman more than me. I think it helps to, to, we've, kind of settled on like, oh, Adam is like the Halloween guy. He loves the Halloween franchise. He loves horror movies. Augustine, his thing is the Lord of the Rings. He's a Middle Earth guy. That's right, baby. And then I'll be like, oh, Hector's like the Marvel or DC guy. Or like the Star Trek guy.

I like Star Trek. So it helps to have these little separate identities, I think, a little bit separated from the stuff we're watching at once, I guess. That's something. But you know what's also sometimes really hard is, even when then there are moments where we don't agree on a movie or a show or whatever. It's so funny to me to watch people in the comments sometimes lump one person's opinion into everybody's opinion. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, if Hector doesn't like the Batman, everyone's like, well, you guys didn't like the Batman.

I'm like, one third of the group didn't like the Batman. That's crazy. And he didn't even disliked, he mildly disliked it. The amount of people who don't know I exist on the channel for some reason is wild. It's really weird. I think to answer your question, Hector, the best thing I can come up with that I know where I was just not, I would say it's kind of answer your question,

where I knew I was like, I am so not in alignment with the audience, and I better avoid comments. Sure enough, I always saw the dislike ratio. I was like, I knew to avoid these comments. Yeah. Because I have to be honest, I really hated the movie pitch black.

And everybody, like, loved that movie. Weird. Fandom. Yeah, cool. And I was like, I need to make sure to, like, stay away. The Riddick fandom? Yeah, dang. I was like doing that thing

like the first hour, I'm saying the nice stuff. And then I was like, you know what? I really don't like this movie. I got to rail into it. And, yeah, that was like one where I'm like, never, never look at those comments. Isn't it surprising where you do this stuff

and then you say like an offhanded thing that you think like, oh yeah. No one's going to care. I didn't really like Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern. And all of all those fans come out of course of all. Where are everything? It's 2010. All right.

I don't know. is an example. The Riddick one threw me. That's like, there's... They made three of them for a reason. I know. It's a real fan. It's true. That is hilarious. Anyway, are we... Yeah, we're wrapped.

We got one minute. Does anybody have a... Oh, there we go. We got a question. He's like, give me the mic. Gary! Someone who also worked on Marvel movies like you. You always, you guys always promoted intelligent discussions about film, comics, TV. Don't give us too much credit. Ted... Well, we try to.

we, as there's a lot of people that don't want to hear that right now. They just want you to lock you in, certain type of thing. But when is it that you know when you've recorded a reaction, after several that you made over a week, that you know that it has to be said at what it needs to be said right now, especially from an individual point of view, because people who want variety, but they're all constantly telling you know. Yeah. That's a great question.

That's a really good question. I wouldn't say that I feel obligated to say anything. Almost everything that we talk about comes from a place of honesty. And I think people like you or, you know, people who really love movies like all of you, will either consciously or subconsciously latch on to somebody who knows about something. Like they say a key word that you know that they like about that. And so I feel like because we have such a love and knowledge of the things that we love, it just comes from like an observation that we make like for me one observation that I made a while ago

and this has been circulated around too but like I want my next Wolverine to be like a native indigenous character right like a native indigenous Canadian which would be amazing and so you know maybe that makes it circles or makes its rounds or not but I feel like that's something important that should be put out there for the world to hear in one way shape or form and hopefully somebody who's in charge listens to that and that idea gets put in their head, right? So little things like that that just come from like

a real place of like this is what I want to see to make the movies and projects that we see better. Hell yeah. Yeah, I mean I feel like there's a lot of times we'll record like a review or reaction or something and we'll stop recording and at the end one of us will go, that was a really good conversation

and it could be like there could be multiple things that we talk about. Some of it is like very deep and very like sometimes politically or socially driven. And sometimes it's just enthusiastic, like an enthusiasm for something. And I feel like you have to be willing to just share all of that stuff and not be worried about what the feedback's going to be. The ultimate test is if we're recording something remotely, the three of us, from our houses, and we're done recording and we go,

that was great. All right, love you guys, see you later. And then we close the laptop. But if we say, like, love you, bros, love watching stuff with you guys. Yeah, you too. Okay. bye, that's always a test I'm like, ah, I feel great.

See you tomorrow. See you tomorrow, bye. It's 12.30 in the morning. Yeah. I appreciate that we got to share the stage for the limited time that we had. Yeah, man, thank you. We had a lot of people contribute who were

excited to see you guys. I want to shout out. Wesley Marshall. Hey, Hal El Charo. Christian Harloff. My gosh. Hark! Whoa.

Hey, we gave a shout out to Christian too because early on Christian was also a big inspiration like you guys. Right we are where we are. Which bitch 1692. Wait, say that again? Which bitch 1692.

I don't know them. I don't know. Wait. Which? Which bitch? Oh, I know which bitch. I don't know which bitch. I don't know which bitch.

I don't know. 1692 one, man. Well, guys, this is Heroes Reforge. Adam Havala. Augustine, something or another. And Hector Navarro. Heckis not Barrow. Yeah, repose your boys.

I hope that's okay. Thank you guys. One more random applause for them, please. Thank you. Thanks guys. Oh, next up, I'm going to be sharing the stage of my brother Jabby Kui from Sinapal's and some others, Sinapalis. How are we doing, Multicon? I don't know if we lost Greg, but he's important to this.

We have lost Greg. Oh, Greg will return in the Avengers Tombstay. Are you pointing at Greg? He's outside? Does he know he has a panel that he asked me to host? because here I am standing on this stage for not Greg through a tight five

oh hey hey Koi do me a favor can you host this panel I'm going to leave though Multicon I'd like you to give it up for the always on time always ready Greg Alba I'm gonna sit here

one of these yeah a man who looks so much like him you'd think they were brothers Jabby Koi A real-life friend of mine that I just found out was doing the panel. One of my favorite people, the always darling, Ashley Morgan. I just met him 42 seconds ago, but he has a nice smile. Brandon, I don't know his last name.

Brandon, don't know his last name. Pleasure to meet you, man. We still got over 600 people. We've been averaging between 600 and 900 people this entire time. This is amazing. So many contributions. Thank you, Internet. So we're here to discuss.

Sina pals plus a side of rejects, plus some brothers. There's a lot of interesting Venn diagrams on this stage is what I want to start out with. And I'm a person who loves to prepare, and I gave him no time. I spend hours on every panel. No joke, not sarcasm. Greg yesterday was like, hey man, you want to like host that panel? And I was like, yeah, man, let's do that.

So I do want to kick this off with the origins of two Titanic websites. I would say Cinepals and Rejects have a huge impact on multimedia and pop culture in a way that I don't even think we realize until we go to events like this. It's a really humbling experience. But I'd love to know from the two of you were there moments when you realized

as you were having these twin experiences like how special it is to start something and then for it to go to scale? I've been talking all day. You go. It's not a twin experience. just copied him and everything worked out pretty well for me. That looks good. Control C, control V. Yeah, I mean, I was working in casting for the longest time and I'm like,

Greg, I don't like working in casting. How do I get out of this? He's like, get to 100,000 subscribers. I'm like, done. And I did it. But what was the question again? Key moments in the rise where you realized it was like having an impact because we're here to make an impact. Yeah, like I was in, my first launch was with India. And so I was like in Vogue India articles and Indian movie celebrities were like tweeting about me. I'm like this is weird. Like Tom Hanks of India

is like talking about me on Twitter. I'm like what the hell Priyanka Chopra's making a message about me and something I said in my video. What the hell? It was just like really weird. Yeah, it was pretty weird. That's a huge market and culture and experience as someone who's learning it. It's so special. The weirdest Hollywood moment for me was with James Wan. Yeah. Because I met him twice and then I met him again a third time at the Aquaman premiere and he's like, hey,

you do the reactions. I saw your video and I'm like, yeah, but we also met and talked for like 30 minutes. But I know you in 2D! Yeah, exactly. I feel like one of the most fascinating parts of this experience because like I started, I'm 35 now,

and I think I started this when I was like 21, I want to say. Greg is 10 years older than me, by the way. I was like 21 when I started this. And, you know, like through the years, I've changed so, I feel like I'm a different person every couple of years, as I constantly try to work on myself. But I had like an ego about it. We've had, we had, there's like some conflict where he was growing so fast.

And I remember being like kind of an egotistical dude about it of like, what the hell you're doing this? And then of course when numbers were looking better than ours, I was like, son of a bitch, you know. I mean like unnecessarily like competitive. But truly there's no other, if I was to like even remove the brother part of it, there's no other YouTuber or channel who has been as helpful as him. It's like, even though he'll say like he copied or whatever,

there's like a lot of people who do this now, I get so much advice from him. There's things that he knows how to run a business better than I do on so many fronts. Sometimes I'm in a difficult, precarious situation when you're running stuff behind the scenes and I'm like, I'm going to call him. He's the one who I know who will have the best of advice. So even though he started this version of YouTube later than me, I feel like in some ways he does a lot of what we do,

but he's got different strengths. And a lot of those strengths are much stronger than me. Like, he actually weirdly completes it. And so if we didn't cover so many of the same things on our channels, we probably do more stuff together. So I saw this as like an opportunity to like, let's share the stage at least for this time. So, yeah.

Yeah, that was kind of what I was wondering in starting with you too, is like, you know, they are two things running parallel with each other. And you kind of answered it. But I wonder as brothers, like having a family dynamic in those phone calls, What's it like to have like Thanksgiving and be like, so, how's SEO? My wife is here, and she'll tell you we just mainly talk about YouTube. I assume. There's pretty much nothing else we talk about.

We try very hard to talk about not YouTube, and it takes about five minutes before all we're doing is talking about YouTube. Oh, by the way, shameless plug. I'm wearing a shirt with Ashley's face because I met her here last year at Multicom. Oh, that's amazing. And I was like, I got to celebrate her. Well, that actually brings me to my next question, Ashley. I was wondering how you came to be a Cinepal beyond Multicon now. That we know that start.

Yes, I actually was watching your panel last year with Real Rejects, and Jabby was there, and we started chatting, and he was like, would you ever want to do movie reactions? I was like, ah, not scary movies. This is what I'm like watching a scary movie. I'm scared of that. And so then I came and I auditioned, and it was really fun, and I'm so happy.

Yeah, and then he put me on train to Busan. So Jabby really cares about me. But it was fun. And like you were saying, people recognize Centip House everywhere. Everywhere we go, they're like, oh, yeah, that one video, I saw the video, and it's just cool. You never know who's going to watch your stuff, especially fans of media that just want to connect. And if they live by themselves or love the film, it's really fun to see what people are connecting to. Brandon, same question.

Yeah, actually, I've known. Jabby here for maybe 20 years. We met doing martial arts stuff and we were working on a short film together Hadn't seen him for a really long time and then we just kind of reconnected at some point and he asked me to Audition for a short film that he was doing and after that He asked me if I wanted to come on the show and try out doing reactions I started on the Indian Channel did a couple of reactions there and now I'm doing also the Cine Pals and it's so much fun. I mean you just you watch movies movies. And it's a lot of fun. It's cool that he and his brother both do it because he speaks so highly of Greg all the time, if you didn't know. And it's just, it's so cool that

they can kind of give each other advice and help each other out all the time. But yeah, I'm loving. It's great. The main shooting space that we shoot in now is actually called Angelo, which is his middle name. Oh, that's, yeah. You're a part of the fabric of the whole thing. Brendan heard that the guy playing Cretus and God of War got fired, and now he's trying to audition for him. I'm working on it, baby.

All that martial arts will turn into steroid gains. So I always have an interesting experience with watching things that I don't know what I'll connect to, right? Like a movie that is completely unknown and having that be a camera in your face and not being sure if it's going to be for you, and you're kind of realizing in real time. And so for me, that's my personal biggest difficulty is navigating, like, is my face doing a thing I want immortalized forever?

Is that comment going to haunt me? I'd love for people that are probably wondering, are there any elements of the job? Like, I'd say it's 90% awesome. We're all, we all work really hard to be lucky. I hate the expression. Like, we're all so lucky because, no, no, we fucking worked. But there's a lot of greatness to it that's obvious. But the downsides, for me, it's the, oh, no, I'm feeling differently about this than,

I think the audience is. What are some of the pitfalls or things that you've struggled with that you are most proud of overcoming, whether that's in real time or as a company overall? I think for me is watching shows or movies out of genre that I'm not used to. I'm afraid of like, am I going to like this? Are people going to be upset if I don't enjoy it as much as they do? But I'm also always pleasantly surprised. I'm like, actually, I think the joy of doing this is watching things I wouldn't usually

watch and being pleasantly surprised. The tough part for me is sometimes acting, because I am an actor, so I'm watching it through the lens of a consumer, but also as an actor. I feel like someone's performance isn't as great. I never want to comment on someone else's performance. I don't know if this is a director thing, if it's an acting thing. So trying to be unbiased about performances can be challenging, because I don't know what happened that day. They could have taken a different take than the actor wanted that day, or we don't know what's happening.

So I try to always have grace with actors as an actor myself, because we just never know. what's happening, even if I don't always agree with their performance. So for me, the first pop-off, like I said, was India. And so inadvertently, I was putting a spotlight on Indian cinema. And, like, other YouTubers saw that. They saw my number. Like, oh, we want numbers. And so they started doing Indian movies, and you started seeing that flood the YouTube

rounds. And then in the last few years, I just got curious about Tyler Perry for some reason. And I started watching Tyler Perry stuff. and then that just launched me into black cinema and then black YouTube saw me and they're like, hey, watch this, watch this, watch this, just like it was like Indian cinema all over again. And so that's been a huge love and passion

over the past two years. Like Brandon and I are on the Shonda Rhymes tour like just watching all the Shonda Rhyme stuff right now. So that's the stuff I'm proud of is like tapping into something that no one's paying attention to or not enough people are paying attention to and then making other people pay attention to it. And so then you see other people doing the same thing.

Yeah. Starting trends and finding trends. Yeah. Brandon? Yeah. To actually expand on what Ashley said, it's me being able to watch these genres that I typically wouldn't watch. Like we watch rom-coms a lot, and we are on the, you know, we're doing scandal and how to get away with murder and all these shows that typically I just, I don't think I'd be that interested in.

I'm mostly watching action movies and martial arts films and maybe some comedies. But doing these new genres has just been a lot of fun. And I realized, I didn't think I was a crier, but sometimes I cry. You know what I mean? They're pretty well-done films. And also, like Ashley was saying, it's kind of hard, especially to be too critical, because also you're thinking if you're an actor or you're a stunt person or you're working film at all, you might work with these people someday.

The human element is real. And you don't want to talk too much shit because then they'll, when they meet you, they're like, oh, yeah, you're the guy that didn't like that scene I shot. So, yeah, it's kind of tricky to navigate that, but still be honest. Yeah. Well, trying to provide a different answer here than what. You kick this whole thing off. Well, that's supposed to be proud of.

I feel like I'm constantly in a vicious cycle depending on where I'm at with comments that day. You know? Yeah. And like I pride myself on doing what I can to articulate honesty and trying to check myself. I'm like, wait, was I actually honest in that video or was I scared of that? So a lot of this whole experience is a very like, introspective time of like, ooh, I really held back there what I was actually feeling. So the thing that I feel most proud of is how much more honest I've been able to be.

And even like what stuff that you and I are doing, you know, I felt like I used to go by a completely different personality doing it. I used to add an alter ego name. And the whole thing was like derived from like Seth Rogan and Judd Apato at the time. The whole thing was like making people uncomfortable. Click on the dick. Yeah, Dick. Every video was like, click on the button, but my dick to subscribe.

It was always like some sex joke and everyone was making like penis jokes wherever I went. It was a very different reputation. And now people are like, oh, you're like just soft and pathetic guys. It's like totally different than who I was before. And that was probably the hardest thing I had to overcome because when I had to stop being Ryan Wright and like, who am I? Who am I? I don't know how to just be me. I just feel like I rely on sex jokes.

all the time. Like, what do I do now? And learning how to just be myself and your question reminds, when Captain Marvel came out, I don't know why I flashed to this, when Captain Marvel came out, I remember being in the car with my then at the time girlfriend, and she was, she told me this phrase about if you could just light a candle in one room with just being honest about something, because I was like, everyone's shitting on this movie because it's a woman and all this stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I feel a little weird to defend some of it. And she brought up this phrase to me about just light one candle of the room. And then I've said that to you. If we can just light one candle by being honest and fighting the good fight, fighting the right fight that we

feel is the right fight. Light that one candle I got from her. And you were talking about crying. There was one time I had my face plastered on Twitter and it got like 300,000 retweets or something like that impressions. And it was just me crying. And they're like, this guy's always crying. And of course, there's a lot of people bitching about me crying. And like, you just do this for clicks or whatever. And I'm like, I really don't. And I thought about like how men will sometimes message me or I was once at a con where a person who has an autistic child came up to me, told me you actually, because my son's autistic watching you cry and helps him feel his emotions better, you know? So that feeling was such a good feeling to me and I feel like that's like the biggest

time. I love that. And that's, I think that's the important part of, I mean, some of the stuff is so trivial, some stuff feels so false. But the human connection is why we all do this. Like, it's the human element of it. And one of the things I like about cons is you are interacting with the human element. It's not looking at a lens. The job is so artificial sometimes that it's like, there's lights at my face and I'm talking to a screen. But the human element is why I love coming to these. Are there any moments that you've had with a fan or with someone on the street or just having a conversation that helped inform something you've done with the business. You'll repeat that one last time.

Any human interaction, whether it was at a con or a fan on the streets or any conversation you've had with a person that you didn't know that helped inform a business decision, something that pivoted either a video or a channel or a playlist or something that impacted the company. One thing that you see when you do YouTube stuff is I feel like everyone who's done YouTube for a while will get a message that says, oh my God, you saved my life.

like some variation of that now when I first started out I was like I took those really seriously and that kept me moving forward is knowing that it's bringing joy to someone's life like sometimes when you're doing YouTube people are trying to rope you into political dialogue and very serious

matters going on the world why aren't you talking about this and I constantly defend myself saying we are escapism from all that bullshit we're here to just enjoy and celebrate hello oh good we go yeah I definitely

experience the scale of it, you know, the more we grow, the more you have those moments and conversations, but it's still so individualized, like, especially, like, those are real impactful moments we're causing for the one person watching in each room, but the, I guess the root of the question is the things that ruminate with you that haven't changed over 10 years, say, like stuff that, you know, has impacted you that's kind of stayed with you as a driving force, that kind of does answer my question, but certain interactions that have really kept things going? I don't know. I'd have to sit and think

about that for a while. That's one of those questions you get in an email and I've got to sit with that for like an hour and think about it. You'd ask very good questions. Greg didn't let me prep, so I'm sorry for bringing you guys the Greg, anything you've had for example, like I've had conversations with people that are comic people and they've always felt like they could

only be blank. Like, I love Marvel, but I'm really excited about Batman, I feel like I can't talk about it. Or I love action movies, so I feel like I can't talk about rom-com. Like, people like to put themselves into tribal areas in order to feel protected. Oh, okay, okay, I got you. I got you. So for me, it's always trying to go against the expectation. Yeah.

So, like, Brandon and I are doing rom-com and Shonda Rimes and stuff like that. With Ashley, I had her doing, like, Sherlock Holmes with me in a bunch of English, Guy Ritchie, English content to try to, like, show you, like, I'm trying to, like, grab, I'm trying to show the target audience, like, hey, everyone's into this. Yeah. You know, it's like, you wouldn't expect me to be into Tyler Perry. or like a lot of those famous black films that you also watched. I know you're aware of.

And so it's like that, that for me is super cool to explore that and just like crack that genre and expose like just new faces to that audience, if that makes sense. That was such a fascinating journey, by the way. You and I have never talked about this, but you guys being local L.A. folk and watching local L.A. movies, but how different that can be even if it's like 20 minutes away? Yeah.

Like, it was, have you seen any? of the experience. Like, Greg didn't know like finishing hair and like little things that like, you know, that's the world. But if you're not exposed to it,

it seems so different or moved. And one of the things I love about movies is it puts you in a position to learn entire cultures without it ever being something that isn't like judged. Like we get to do these reactions and not feel like we're being persecuted

for asking a question or discovering something. Have you guys had anything where you're watching a movie and you get to have that experience of like, oh, I'm sharing this and this is something deeply and personal to me, but because it's a movie, it's more vulnerable and allowed.

Yeah. It happens a lot with me, and I watched Warrior by myself. Oh, God. And that was something I've never watched. I'm glad we had editors for that and not me working on that. I was just so, I was by myself, and that was one of the rare times where,

because I'm by myself, I was able to forget about a camera. and I was uncontrollably sobbing the entire time I ended up calling him it's about brothers and this relationship with her dad and of course I'm like I try to find the boundary here of like how much do I let in about trauma and all this stuff but allowing that part to be expressed I feel like that that's a movie that often flashes in my mind

and an experience of doing this that flashes in my mind that made me make sure I talked to him a little bit more so I would say Warrior was a that that experience was, like sometimes you go call a movie life-changing. And I feel like there was a life-changing element to it that put me on a path to be something more aware of. Beautiful. Picking back up for the last thing you said really quickly. I think the cool thing, too, about Real Rejects and Sennepals.

For instance, with, you know, Jabby and Brandon watching Tyler Perry movies is sometimes people feel like that genre is not for them. So they see other people watching it and they're like, oh, they're enjoying this. Maybe I can start watching this too. And it creates a collective experience where you don't feel like something. because you're not the same ethnicity or don't maybe have the same background. You can still be like, oh, I can relate to that still. And they're having a good time. But I think for me, I think the first film I actually watched was ghost.

I'd never seen ghosts. And I remember I was so nervous to show emotion. I'm a cry baby. I'll cry all day in a movie theater. But for me, I felt like the camera. I felt embarrassed. But when I was reading the comments, it kind of created a collective experience. People were like, I cried at that too.

That affected me too. That impacted me too. And I just felt so much more connected. to people through the lens of YouTube, because sometimes social media can be harsh and scary and mean and aggressive. But there's also, we always talk about that, but there's also the beauty of it of us connecting as people

and having a collective experience, even if it's just watching through a YouTube channel, watching a movie at home, and having the real rejects or CinePiles up next to you, and you feel like you have people there watching the movie with you. So people don't feel as alone anymore. Beautiful. I think that is exactly why I like to do it.

I personally was not a watcher of reactions. And when Greg and I became friends, he asked me to come on the channel. And I was like, I don't know this job. I don't know how. I talk about movies. We watch and they're watching it. But it's the empathy that I think,

the reason I love movies is because it's putting yourself in someone else's shoes. And we get to do that with people on a million scale. And I think that it's so important that people understand that we are all human. And that's why so many of these movies and so many of these experiences are important. My last question for the table, is there anything that you are the most proud of of doing this as independent creators? We all are very uniquely kind of guiding our own paths in the world. And I think it's this very scary time. I complain about overworking.

I complain about the hours. It's a lot. And like, there isn't really, we're kind of all on pagers. Like, we're not paid like doctors, but we work the hours. We're not doing as nearly as hard of shit. But I'm really proud of what we've all built and what you guys have done. Is there any point of real pride? We never get to really pat ourselves in the back.

So I'm trying to give you guys the opportunity. Pat yourselves in the fucking back, something you're proud of. There's at least 25 people out there that think I'm funny. Does it! Like, Greg is one of the funniest people I know. He always makes me laugh. And I've only made him laugh twice, I think. His entire life, I've only made him laugh twice.

It's true. I have a hard time making Ashley laugh. I've made Ashley laugh maybe three times. since I've known her, but like, I will see comments where people are like, oh my God, Jabby's funny. I'm like, thank God. Someone finds me funny. So, but not only that, like, I love that we have a crew. Like, for a long time, it was Greg and John. And I was like, Greg, you need a team. It can't just be you. And I, like, I really, really wanted a team because I know that

if it's just you or just you and one other person, after a while, you will get burnt out. You will get exhausted. And so I endeavored to have a team of people. And I love my team. I love all the people that we work with. and that's one of the things I'm proudest of is that I get to share that spotlight with all of them. Anytime in the comments they're like, oh my God, Brandon's so much cooler than Jabby. I'm like, good. I'm glad you're saying that. Like, I love when they like other hosts more than me. I'm like, awesome, because that's exactly what I want.

I want to shine a spotlight on my hosts as much as possible. Beautiful, man. That's what I learned from him to let other people look better than me. And I was like, that was the hardest thing for me to like get pet. I'm not sure. I give Greg a be proud of yourself question. No sarcastic. I would say, ah, the part that, this is going to sound weird because it's, I don't feel like I'm a good business owner.

I have to constantly learn how to run a business. I didn't sit out to run a business, you know. I was just in a, essentially a studio apartment with a wall, you know, so we called it a one better. But I was just, I was trying to become a critic in the newspaper. I didn't know there was a thing called content creators. I never heard the word influencer before, all these things. And it wasn't until a year and a half in where people were like, you can make money on this. I was like, what do you mean?

I didn't know what the word monetization was. So I enabled it. I was like, oh shit, I have the screenshot of the first 50 cents that I made. And I was like, it's working. And through that time, I mean, like, we grew up in a home where we lost everything. the house got foreclosed on. We lost our home. We did not have money growing up.

So then to be able to make money, but not only that, even though I have such a hard time learning how to be a boss, leader, manager, friend, all at once, I really feel like I'm constantly divided between them all. I'm pretty happy that we were still able to create a lot of jobs at the same time. And I'm like, oh, there's like 25 to 35 people who work here now. And there was a long time where it was like, I was just locked in a room by myself for like a while. So it is neat when we get a look at like, oh, creating jobs. Because I do care about that.

Even if I sometimes feel like I'm really dropping the ball here as a business owner, as a boss, as a friend, I still know me well enough to know. I still care about the individual people. And I try not to be like a corporate asshole about shit. And I'm really scared of becoming that guy. And sometimes it's to the detriment. And sometimes I make bad choices because I'm fucking human. But I also will apologize if I mess up.

I try to, I still try to be a human being in spite of all that. For the company. For the company. For the company. Ashley, I pointed pride. Yeah, I'll be quick. I think it is what I kind of said about ghosts is showing up authentically and then having the one person out there feeling seen.

If I'm tired, I'd be tired, y'all. But like, I'll be real tired. I also work at a theme park and I know how important it is to show up for that one person because they can change their day, their life. You just never know who you might impact. So that's what makes me the most proud is just showing up for that one person. Love that. Brandon?

I think for me it's probably just kind of sticking with it. Because when I first got here, the job is weird, man. You're watching shows. If I watch a show or watch a movie at home, I'm not talking. I'm watching the movie, you know? And it was hard for me to find a middle ground where I was not being too performative, but then also not being too quiet. and Jabby gave me some good advice that Greg gave him, which is, you know, you're just being yourself,

but kind of a more extroverted version of yourself coming across. And I think it was very difficult at first, and I was getting very frustrated with it, and it took a while to kind of get that, and I think I could have given up pretty easily, but I think sticking with it, I'm glad I did because I really enjoy it. Beautiful. And what I've been proud of lately is actually what you and I have been doing, like being in reaction category for the longest time. It's like we've been able to branch out and like our podcast has been doing,

like so many people come into us about our podcast. And I'm like, that's really cool that people like talk to us about the podcast. I'm like, oh, that's not us doing just a reaction. And then like there are commentary videos. And for a long time I've been wanting to like do something else outside of reaction. So I feel like even though commentary is like reaction totally adjacent, it's still different. It's more about what we're saying a lot of the time.

and yeah, I think like having our voice be heard has been a cool part of this new area we've been branching out to that I'm very proud of. I think you should all be wicked proud. Everyone I meet, and I just met Brandon, but everyone I meet that knows you guys is always so heartwarming and kind and always so open and emotional.

I think it's because of what we all do. And it's not a coincidence that our fans are amazing because we are putting out there in the world that you should be good people, and I think it's working. So without this and without you guys watching, we're just crazy people talking to a lens. So thank you for it being possible,

and you guys should all be proud of yourselves, and it was an absolute pleasure. Thank you. Can we shout out? Thank you. Some people who have been getting a lot, and we still have over 600 people watching, so want to shout out, which bitch again.

He got degrees. Thank you guys so much for all your contributions throughout all this, all going to multi-con, mental health organizations and stuff. So thank you guys so much. We had a lot of people watching this entire time, so thank you. Bye!

Thank you. Oh, no. Double Dunkirk. That was a perfect end of it. Double Dunkirk. That was a perfect image. Dunkin' Don't know. Dirty damn.

Or was it Dave? Just double Dunker. It ain't done. Okay. Oh my God. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Thank you so much for tuning in. All right.

Woo! Looks like we cleared the place out. Yeah, man. They have plugged the PA. They're turning off the lights. I don't know. We might get locked in here. We'll go home tonight.

Yeah, dude. We are going to get stuck. This is the last thing happening of the day. But, you know, before we get into the conversation about everything is going on and what we're viewing, I just want to introduce you, give your proper flowers. This man here, he is not only a president on Tyler Perez the Oval, he is a historian, he is an actor, he is a model, he's a musician, he is a surfer, ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Ed Quinn.

I think my modeling days are kind of far behind me, but that was some 1990 skill. Like it's an old 90s talk show, right? But yeah, man, this is cool. I'm excited that you came to be here, you know? I know you've kind of been waiting for a minute to get on stage here. But now that we're finally here, let me ask you with all your accolades and stuff, because I did a lot of research going into this interview here to talk to you. How does it feel to just be like the Swiss army of men,

being able to have so many talents and feats that you've kind of accomplished over your life? I don't know. You know, to be humble about it, I feel really fortunate because, one, I find myself constantly entertained and challenged with, you know, different, whether they're hobbies or pursuits or, you know, or some kind of endeavor. But, you know, it's given me incredible longevity, which is kind of the thing that maybe I'm the most fortunate, you know, for and I'm most grateful for is, you know, I've seen a lot of people in this business. rise real quick and attain real great heights in one medium or another, and it's gone.

They're done. I haven't seen them in five years, 15 years, 30 years. So if you have some versatility and you can apply yourself to different trades, you can stay alive in the business, which, you know, longevity might be one of the toughest things that pull off. Man, yeah. And obviously, you're someone who's extremely versatile. I've seen you do stuff in comedy.

I listen to your music with you and your band, and that was really awesome. So what's it like still, you know, being somebody who's multifaceted and just being able to do things like being in a band and being an extremely popular show? Well, I just found it really challenging. I played a show, I was the first show in about 10, 12 years a couple months ago, and it was a huge sold-out show at The Deep End Live at Redondo, and the stuff that I play is really hard. Took a lot of practice, took a lot of rehearsing.

It took a lot of frustration. But, you know, it was great to sort of try and do something hard, pull it off, the show went well. It was great. You know, my day job is acting and probably always going to be acting, though. So it's a nice distraction from that, too. You can just bang your head against the wall sometimes, especially with the state of the business right now.

I'm super fortunate. I'm on a series that's airing right now. now in season seven. So I got to work through COVID and through the strike. And I mean, it's, again, just blessed. I'm on a huge commercial campaign. So a lot of the anxiety and what's really tough for a lot of actors right now and a lot of people in this industry, musicians trying to figure out how to make a living doing it. It's just really difficult. And so being multifaceted is good, not just because it gives you different avenues to work, but keeps you from going crazy

because you can focus on something. And, you know, I'm pitching shows right now. I'm pitching movies right now. Doing a lot of different things is really good for the mental health of it all, too, because it makes you feel busy. Yeah, man. Yeah, so you're a writer and a producer and everything. So I got to ask you, what is one thing that has you?

you really excited as far as like what you're what you're writing what you're producing like what genres really get your i have i have a pulp horror film that i wrote and i sold the lansgate 14 years ago that these two huge former presidents of studios found and we're out pitching it and i've got an actor attached and a director interested it's but i mean again it was at a studio 14 years ago. I have another huge book series that we're kind of looking into these different

mediums that are popping up in the digital space. You know, that's the whole thing. And then tomorrow morning, I get a phone call and I could be on a flight to Vancouver to jump on a network show. So, you stay busy with the stuff that you want to push

forward, knowing, I know, because I've sold so many TV shows and written so many things, and never got to make anything. That's the reality. But, you know, as long as I can, you know, put food on the table, you stay at that. Maybe one of those things will hit. Or maybe I'm just going to constantly be doing, I'm just going to jump on another TV show. Or maybe they'll get a big feature film. I don't know. You know, I promoted two movies last year, and both of them got smoked at the box office. So you just, you work, you do the best you can, you try and promote it, you hope the market likes it.

Let's go from there. man what if you could have your your dream role what do you think that would look like for you obviously you just said you're working on a horror movie would you want to be the lead of like a badass horror film I mean that would be a ton of fun um you know I don't know I think my dream role I really like the grind of television I really do the one show I miss and the whole genre's gone so it's like I miss it I don't know if it's ever coming back but um being on two broke girls for a couple years was so fun because I loved the I love the live studio audience

I love the pressure of putting that show up doing comedy is fun because you're laughing all day long you know shooting drama shooting a single cam it's a grind you know you're shooting everything you're covering everything you're turning around there's not the immediacy of sitcom so that I mean it'd be really fun to be like on one of those shows for five or six years. It's so great.

And the routine, the crew, going to, I like, I love working on studios. I mean, look, I've worked all over the world on all kinds of movies and TV shows and commercials. I can't even count how many countries I've worked in. Locations can be pain in the ass. It's fun. It's really fun to travel and to be there, but then you're trying to make a

movie and you can't, you know, something's wrong with the light, something's wrong with the location, something's wrong with the weather, something's wrong with this, that, and the other. It's really hard. It's really difficult. And so, there's something very old school show business about working on a studio. So at this point in my career, I just want to do good work if I could. So, you know, I'd love to make some of the stuff that I've written because I know it's good because I've sold it multiple times, you know.

And so, you know, that's the kind of thing. You just wake up in the morning and what do I want to do? I want to do what's next. You know, work with good people. I like to work with people who are better than me. That's what I really want. I'd like to work with people who are more talented than I am. That's fantastic. So that's the job that I want. Yeah, people that keep you inspired because you're like, okay. No, people that keep you scared to death. Like you're shit in your pants every day because you're like,

that director's really good. This writer's writing stuff that I got to be able to hit. That actress cannot say the line wrong. She's so effing good. So you're just like, all right, I just want to be around people who are better than me because then you can erase your own game. Can you think of an experience that really challenged?

You're like, oh shit, I've got to step my game up for this. early in my career, yeah, because you're green, and so you're walking on the sets. Later, going back, probably two broke girls jumping on that show, I was only supposed to do three episodes, and I ended up doing two seasons and getting a series regular deal, and we were supposed to do a huge seven season, the wedding season, and it's Hollywood, so of course the show got canceled. But, yeah, I mean, yeah, I got yelled at the second night because I wasn't hitting my jokes hard enough, and everybody thought, and most actors then have a nervous breakdown, and there's a whole graveyard, yard, you know, in, out the back of Warner Brothers, where they bury the actors that

break down until they get yelled at, you know, in front of a live studio audience, because you're not hitting your jokes. But I was an athlete. I'm used to being yelled at. I love that. I hate the passive-aggressive, like, you know, could you maybe do it? And nobody's talking to you. I want to be yelled at. And Michael Patrick King, is my favorite boss ever, just came on at the set right in front of everybody and started screaming at me. Oh, look, who got a haircut and I think he's a movie star. Voice!

I can't fucking... And then it gives me a whole bunch of new jokes. And I walked back out and I smash the jokes and I stepped back and I looked at him like this. And video villos

be back like over where that wall is. They're all watching on the monitors and everybody's just looking like this. And Michael looked at me and he looked back at all the writers and producers and executive CBS. He goes, do you see that? That doesn't exist.

That's a unicorn. Book him for the rest of the year. we're rewriting the entire season. Wow. Yeah, and that's that kind of thing where you get an opportunity to raise your game. And, you know, coming off that show,

it got canceled, it was a bummer. I get in on, there's a, one day at a time, they're looking for the big love interest for Justina Machada. And they want me to go on tape and put myself on tape, you know, like an audition.

But I know they're testing. And I'm like, I'm not going on tape. It's multi-camera, it's comedy, I'll, you know, I want to audition. And they kind of just went, all right, fine, let's just test him. And it's Netflix, it's at Sony, the big Netflix building,

and screen test means you, literally everybody's there. All the studio execs, all the network execs, all the producers, all the writers. I've never met Justina. I've never done the scene before. They put you on stage. And everybody else has done, like, readings and pre-readings and work sessions and

you know director sessions I've never done anything and Norman Lear is sitting right in the front the Norman Lear creator of you know probably easily they're one of the biggest TV producers if not the biggest TV producer in the history of our business and I walked up on stage and I knew from the third joke I had it because I heard them laugh and I'm like yeah

I don't know what these guys thought they were doing beforehand but the minute Justina and I started doing it, it was just magic. You could feel the energy. I was hitting jokes that they hadn't seen or that nobody had hit yet. And I get done and I walk out. And apparently Norman Lear just stood up and goes, I'm done. And walked out. Because he's like, yeah, we've been looking for this guy forever.

That's him. We're not even having a discussion about it. You know, let's go. I think they're even behind schedule. Like, there were an episode behind schedule because I couldn't find the guy. So when you get tested, like I did on two broke girls, you then carry that with you and you're never really, you know, you go to the next audition with the same kind of confidence. By the way, they also could have said like, not that guy, big giant six foot four gorilla, get him out of here. But, you know, you can take the hard lessons, you take the hard work and you take it with you.

Man, yeah. And as you were talking, I was listening because it's funny, you said that they, you can take the hard lessons. initially said that you weren't hitting your marks and they didn't feel like you were funny enough and you came back and you crushed it. What it was, I was being a movie star. So what I was doing is I was being a cool guy in a multi-cam where you gotta hit the joke

kind of thing, you know, and so like especially that show was loud and big and there's a thousand people in a big studio audience and the energy's got to be up. And I came out you know, Mr. Lovitz or Mr. Cool Guy third episode, I think it was after the Christmas break, I got a real cool haircut. He literally said, can we swear other kids here?

I think all the kids are gone. He literally walked out of the set and he goes, oh, look who got a fucking haircut and thinks he's a movie star. And everybody was like, Cat Dennings was like, oh, my God, he's going to murder him. Beth Bears has her fist in her mouth. She's like, oh, no, everybody's just like, I guess he used to do this a lot. And the actors just can't remember a line after that. It all goes sideways.

And, yeah, it was, I grew up an athlete getting, like, you know, clipboards broken over my helmet in football practice. So I'm like, oh, I remember this. Oh, you want me to hit him harder? Oh, I'll hit him harder. Watch this motherfucker. That's what it was. I played football myself.

What position did you play? I was, well, high school. I was offensive line and defensive line. Same. Oh, really? Yeah. And then I went to play at Cal and blew up my shoulder. And they wanted me to move to center.

And I was trying to move to tight end. And it was a whole thing. Oh, yeah. Dislocated both of my knees three times. Yep, yep. Dislocating shoulder. That's what it was. I did it in my junior year in high school.

my whole shoulder rebuilt by the 49ers. Yikes. I know you're not a stranger to danger and, like, you know, obviously you've lived a life. I saw in a thing, an interview you did in South Africa that you had attacked by seals with your friend, is that? No, well, yeah, no. I was there surfing a contest in Jeffries Bay, which is one of the best ways in the world. And there's a, there's this wave.

And it doesn't even, I don't, it didn't even break this year. For about two or three years, there's this insane wave called Skeleton Bay or Donkey Bay. It's on the skeleton coast of Namibia. And it's this two-mile break in the coastline. There's a beautiful... You ever want to study or learn about the coast of Africa? It's Angola, Namibia, and the northwest coast of South Africa is the second largest desert in the world. It's a 50 million-year-old desert that just blows into the ocean.

And they just created the sandbar. And there was this two-mile insane wave called Skeleton Bay that was just all the rage and all the top pros from the world were traveling there to try and catch it. It only break about four or five times a year. One of our good friends who was actually putting on this contest at Jay Bay is one of the pioneers of it. And so he was like, boys, we got there.

We were actually supposed to serve a warm-up contest in Cape Town and then drive the coast to Jeffries Bay, the weekend of the contest and it was pissing rain and 20 feet the contest was going to be a mess anyway he's like we could try to make a strike mission it's either going to be too big or too

south or something so we kind of rolled the dice and as we were getting on the plane he got a call from some of the guys in Namibia and they said it's on it's absolutely pumping and so we get there and it's one of the scariest places in the world

because it's just the whole ocean is moving this way and there's just these massive waves running. They run so fast, and they run for miles, and you lose all your friends and you're by yourself, and you're walking across the beach, and it's these big sand spit, and all of a sudden the sand moves,

and there's jackals and coyotes, like, laying in the sand as this winds, but they're covered in this, like, dusty sand, and these massive seal colonies, and there's just not, I think Namibia is the least populated per capita country in the world. There's no people around. So the seals have no...

So it's like, what are you? What are you doing? And they will literally come up, chase you, hit your board. The wave's trying to kill you. There's sharks everywhere. It's just the most... And then the wave is... And I've served everywhere.

I've served all over. North Shore. I've been to Indonesia 20 times. I've never experienced the wave like this. The absolute power. The merciless beating. It's so terrifying. It's freezing cold.

Like I said, your friend takes off on a wave and he's gone. You don't see him again. And you're drifting so far. And you have to walk back two miles along the Santa. bit so you'll be like walking back and you'll see your buddy like hey you'll kind of wave and he'll take off on a wave and he's going it's really because the ocean's so cold it does this weird

thing with the with the fog and so it's always kind of foggy and hazy it's just creep show but it's the craziest wave in the world so that that was that's the Namibia skeleton bay if you go on Red Bull you can like see all the top pros trying to ride it but they show up you know with 18 guys and jet skis and you know and camera crews and drones and they still and they have a hard time they have a really hard time catching waves they have a hard time filming it it's it's a crazy experience but a spooky place but it was a great trip and then we went flew back to cape town and drove jay bay and jay bay was going off so it was a i then and then this donkey is i would like then go like all right guys hold on a second

tomorrow morning i got to go to two morning shows in johannisberg and so i would like drive at the airport and fly, because I'm doing the show, BT, the Oval plays in 46 or 48 countries in Africa. If there's 56 countries, it's like, all but six. There's a couple that only speak French. So, yeah, so I would go and do press

and then I'd go back and surf, it was a pretty cool trip. That's freaking gnarly, man. Yeah, that was good time. Do you still surf? Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah, yeah. That's how to stay in shape, and I love it. It's, you know, it's one place I can go and sort of tune out, you know. And so, yeah, it's good fun. Yeah, where do you feel like you feel like the most free, like when you're surfing or like when you're playing music?

It's a good question. I don't know. I think both, because both are just, it's such a, you know, I think music you're trying, you know, depending, you know, it can get a little cerebral because you're obviously trying to stay with the song, you're trying to stay in the beat, you're trying to, you're look, you're thinking, whereas a lot of surfing, what's great is you're not thinking, you're just reacting, and you're kind of so in the moment. So there's something really beautiful about that, but I don't know, both are, both are

pretty fantastic in that kind of regard, but you can just sort of lose yourself in it. Okay, yeah, man, because, yeah, I've always wanted to try my hand in surfing, and my, my form of music is poetry. I do stuff on YouTube and I perform poetry across the country and stuff, so. And there's got to be a moment when you're hitting the, you're hitting the, You know, when you've got the rhythm and the beat, and you can see the words coming, and you're telling that story,

and you're connecting with someone. I mean, it's beautiful. And you can do it acting, too, you know? And once in a while, it was a good, you'll be in a good scene, and it's working, and there's a synergy, and it's like a dance, you know. It's awesome. Exactly.

Yeah, you'd mentioned the Oval earlier, and in one of the interviews I saw with you, you were talking about how, I guess, when you were first on, Tyler Perry kind of got upset with you because you were, you were, being funny in a serious scene,

and you kind of had a contrasting experience when you were doing two-bro-girls. So how would you say you would approach comedy versus drama, and do you feel like you have to enter a different mode to do those things? You kind of do. It comes down to the writing, the set, and I looked at the Oval, like, well,

but Tyler didn't realize, is Tyler had this idea of me just being sort of almost two-dimensional and, like, mean and hard and awful. And I was looking at him going, you know who the best character you've ever created in the thousands of episodes and hundreds of TV shows you've done? Medea.

I based Hunter Franklin on Badaia. Did you really? Yeah, and he didn't get it at first. And then he all of a sudden started to, I think we did some scenes, and he thought it was too joky, he thought it was too late, and he was a big dude,

and he was on a tear, and, you know, everybody was terrified of him. And I kept trying to put this humor in because I knew there was going to be places where, yeah, I was going to do some really dark, horrible stuff, and the juxtaposition would have been so good. Yeah. And then he started to see it, and he was just like,

and then when it got serious or there was some emotional stuff, and then I was going there, he was like, oh. And then he looked at me, he goes, I am so glad I hired you. Oh, man. And then his fans, I mean, his fan. Like, you know, the proof was in the pudding. It was just like, well, see what you're, he goes, this whole empire, his, is built on that fan.

He started doing the Chitlin circuit with his church plays. And it's a beautiful documentary, Maxine's Baby on Amazon. It's all about his life, how he started. And he earned that audience. They trusted him, you know, and he got that first chance, you know, Dyer of a mad black woman, you know, everybody thought it was going to tank. And instead it exploded. And, you know, his audience, you know, when the Oval came on,

they just shook their head and started laughing. I go, we love him. And he was just like, I think it was a little bit of them that wanted people to be like, I don't get it, I don't like it. Just so he could win that one. But it was like, told you. He's like, shut up. Go make me money.

Yes, sir. Yeah, boss. I'm on my way. Yeah, man. A buddy of mine asked me to do this interview with you a couple of days. And I was like, yeah, I would love to because, you know, you seem like interesting, dude, the more I got to learn about you over the past couple days. and last night me and my girl

put on the Oval because I'm like yeah I want to see this very popular show this man's been on so the first scene we put on you're with your wife and then she spits in your face and then she slaps you and then you slap her and I'm like we're in the first scene of the movie

I was like oh my we're at the TV series but I was called these movies I was like oh man well we're going to find out real quick real quick if they love love me or I'm canceled and done and out of here. And yeah, for those that I haven't seen it,

then I get in this giant fist fight with my wife. It's just naham. And it's literally the opening. You don't even know I'm the president and this is inauguration that or anything. Yeah, yeah. And the best part was, is we're at Tyler's giant massive mansion in Bel Air

in his movie theater, it was in his house, of course, he has a movie theater's house. And it's my cast and the cast of Sistas and a whole bunch of people. And all the girls' phones start ringing. And it's all their moms, all the grandmas. And they were like, yo, you listen. That white boy is ours and you protect him.

You don't let nobody come from. And they were, black Twitter was on me in a second. Like, hey, I'm such Twitter. Like, oh, we're doing this? Okay, we love it. He's hilarious. He's ours. Shut up.

You're not coming for him. I was like, protected. I had this like, this forest field around me. They're like, nope. You're like, because I could get me, that was like 20, 2019, 2019. So yeah, there was also a chance It was just like Ed Quinn is the worst person In the history of television

Like you know like you cover a time magazine Cancel me But yeah, no It was it was the opposite. It was like, don't touch him He's ours. It's just like, yep Oh man, I have so many more questions This has just been so good But I think I got the time for us to wrap

But this has been great talking with you, Ed Whatever, Aaron Aaron's been trying to get rid of me all night You're like basically unplug the PA system close the garage. Come on, Aaron. We're just getting warmed up. Where are you going?

You got a date now? Can I ask one more question before you wrap? We've got two, three. Now she's playing court. Now she's pretending like it's not. Okay. All right, you get two more questions. Okay.

So, first question I wanted to ask is, obviously, that's how you start. That's your introduction to the Tyler Perry world. And obviously, he has an army of black women that watch his television show. Army of black women. Those are my girls. Yeah, man.

So I guess when you, in the time you've been on this, you've run the seven seasons of the show. What was, did you ever have a moment? You're just like, and I know that nobody's here. So I can say this. You're like, Tyler, what the fuck? Oh, oh, no, no, no, no. Like, I was, the whole thing is just kabuki theater.

I think my favorite insane moment, I'm going to guess a lot of the people out here haven't seen the Oval, so I'm going to get you up to speed real quick. So about mid-season, season one, my mistress is in my bed we're doing drugs

I go to the bathroom and while I'm in the bathroom my son comes into the room with a samurai sword decapitates her so see you're watching out for the show I mean so we literally just started last night we were hooked this is season one

so now the scene that we got to shoot is I'm coming out of the bathroom in my underpants, she's on the bed, but when I get in the bed, I mean, this was some Edwood shit. This is some crazy, like, B-B-B-B- Thank you.

So when I get into the bed, my mistress's head rolls off and blood spurts everything. And I'm not covered in blood in my underpants and my head rolls off. Now, because it's nothing ever works in Hollywood, the blood wasn't squirting or the head

didn't look right. Tyler's furious. He's going to kill everybody. Everybody's mad and we're all in the presidential bathroom and we're doing this again and it better I mean when I say when Tyler gets mad people are literally scared for their life and the crews are huge

people think maybe because Tyler shoots these shows real fast it's like skeleton crew is the opposite there's like a hundred person crew so every time you want to move you can move real fast so we're all smashed in the bedroom and it's the it's like all the monitors or the DP sound

all the people doing the effects Everybody's crushed in the bathroom because we're shooting into the bedroom. And Melissa is not Melissa anymore. She's a dummy and the head's going to fall off and the blood's going to spread everywhere. And it's just complete nonsense. And so right, like Tyler's there and he's like, okay, everybody, best better work this time. Roll it up, action, Ed. And right, right when I'm about to walk in and everybody's scared because they're like, this could be the end of their career.

I look back in the bathroom, I go, yo, watch me win a BET award right here now it did not it the the crew which it was 99% black it did not go over their head

the fact that I'm thinking I'm gonna win a BET award the EET stands for black entertainment television yes it does so the entire room falls down trying not to laugh trying to hold it and as I'm about to step up

He goes, you just hear Tyler go, I sure quiet! And everybody's, like, frozen like this, and everybody's trying to do their job. And I go walking out, and I jump in bed, and Melissa's head falls off and blood spurts out everywhere. Tyler goes, cut, moving on. And, like, you know, when you're doing that kind of production,

you just realize, man, jumping sharks, that's forever ago. We're, like, all in a kabuki theater land right now. So I've never ever done a second guess of anything I've jumped both. I think that's the other thing too. If you just keep jumping both feet in, never ever question what you're doing,

the audience will roll along with you. They know what we're watching. Like the head. Like the head. Just like that head that rolled off. Y'all jump on the moon at this point. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're still trying to solve that murder, by the way. If I'm a samurai sword, my son buried it somewhere, I don't know, man. There's a lot of loose ends we need to tie up. So I'm still thinking we should do a season eight because we need to, probably all. of that. But yeah, yeah.

Okay. And last question before we get out of here, what has been your favorite response or things you've read about yourself on the internet, both through your career, through the Oval? Like, what has been the thing that's made you feel the best or the thing that's kind of blown to your mind? I don't know. Probably the first question that you started with.

So many people don't know, like, you know, we're in this information age where you kind of like, you see someone they're on the Oval, you don't even know what they're on before. I went and did a convention, the Dragon con in 22 in Atlanta, where I'm on billboards all over, I mean, I'm in billboards and Times Squares and downtown

L.A. and here. And I've got a thousand people wanting to talk to me about Eureka, and half of them are like, are you still acting? Oh, no. I'm like, still acting? Wait, what do I mean, like Eureka, that's pre-mistresses, two

broke girls, a ton of goofy sci-fi movies, one day at a time, the Oval. Yeah, but people are so kind of siloed and what they do, they just don't know what you're up to. And when I played that show two months ago, there's a whole ton of my friends that didn't know I played music. Oh, really? No, I played music my whole

life. That's what I was going to do for a living. And then when I kind of saw that maybe that wasn't going to work out or it's music and business sucks, my backup plan was that. Nobody people knew that I modeled. Nobody knew that I played football. And so I think the coolest thing about reading about myself is when people

kind of go and they find out something I used to do. So, but you know and maybe I'll do something else tomorrow. Who knows? Okay. You guys, thank you guys so much. Thank you, Ed Quinn. Go listen to Ed Quinn and the Swamp Metal All-Stars, okay? It's awesome. It's awesome.

Listen to it. You're doing great with your music. Never got one of my songs on the soundtrack of the Oval. Like, don't know why. No heavy metal. Tyler. If you watch their universe. Put his music in the show. Thank you, man, so much.

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