The Reel Rejects - MEETING ROBERT PATRICK! Talkin' Terminator 2, Peacemaker Season 2, John Cena, & Fatherhood Struggles

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Starting point is 00:00:43 land rover.ca. There you are, pushing your newborn baby in a stroller through the park. The first time out of the house in weeks. You have your Starbucks, Venty. because, you know, sleep deprivation. You meet your best friend. She asks you how it's going. You immediately begin to laugh, then cry, then laugh cry. That's totally normal, right? She smiles, you hug.

Starting point is 00:01:08 There's no one else you'd rather share this with. You know, three and a half hour sleep is more than enough. Starbucks, it's never just coffee. You worked with John Cena a couple of times before you actually worked with him on Peacemaker. And I was privy to a lot of the conversation. of people reacting to John Sina as peacemaker for this. Like, wow, I'm surprised of the emotional range and depth he actually has. What's it like for you to be literally witnessing him evolve as an actor?

Starting point is 00:01:41 John has taken it to a level that I'm so impressed with. I hope John doesn't mind if I tell this. Thank you to Hewell for sponsoring this video. More on them in just a bit. My friend didn't know that I was going to be having a conversation with you. and he actually bought me this last week as a birthday present because Terminator 2 is indeed my favorite movie of all time. That is so cool.

Starting point is 00:02:04 I've been on record saying that many a years. It's a great film. It really is. I'm actually curious, by way, Greg Alba, Real Rejects podcast here of Robert Patrick today. Real Rejects. I'm with the Real Rejects. Yes, you are, sir. I know you talk a lot about Terminator 2, and there was one question that I was like,

Starting point is 00:02:25 Oh, you know what I would love to ask you is there's been so many kind of like restorations and different editions of Terminator 2. I mean, they had the theatrical release. I once went to Arclight where you presented the original print. Oh, you were there. Anna Barst did that. My friend, Superfan and a dear friend Anna Barsh. Yeah. She was working at Arclight. She presented that. That was an awesome experience. And then, of course, there's been like the T2-3-D re-release. There's been a bunch of versions of it. After all these years, if you were to, to introduce Terminator 2 to someone, what will be the ideal version you'd want them to see it as? Well, having seen the cleaned-up T2, you know, 4K, whatever it is that he released it in,

Starting point is 00:03:08 and digitally, that print, that 3D version, it is a gorgeous movie. I mean, just gorgeous. However, you know, Anna did that. She found a print from, you know, the early 90s. And she released that, we screened that movie, and that was fun too because, excuse me, it was, you know, a film that that was the way they were released back of the day and it had a different kind of quality to it. So, I guess either or, I mean, one of them has more of a not clean kind of grainy kind of, that was the thing about the original Terminator that I thought the original Terminator, that I thought the original Terminator. Terminator is scarier than Terminator 2 because it has this low-budget, kind of grainy, horror film kind of quality to it. Yeah. That makes it kind of more terrifying, and T2 is super slick. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:11 You know? But equally, I think the clean version, maybe. All right. Yeah, that's what I'd go with. That's pretty cool, because it keeps evolving with these, like, restorations that James Cameron keeps doing. And so it's interesting that after all these years, the more upgraded it gets, the more you actually appreciate it. Yeah, I actually got to go to his studio and watch it in his screening room while he was doing.

Starting point is 00:04:38 Oh, Lord, what's the name of the movies he's doing right now? Avatar. Thank you very much. Jesus, completely spaced. Yeah, I went there and I sat there and watched the print there. Terminator 2, the cleaned up print. Because I was going out to promote it around the world. I thought it would do better

Starting point is 00:05:02 when they released it. You know, I don't know how it did at the box office, to be honest with. I think it did pretty well. I remember I went to the screenings in Burbank, and it was pretty packed. You know, it's interesting. What's going on with movies in general?

Starting point is 00:05:20 You know, COVID and getting people to go to theaters now. I mean, I guess Superman has, you know, proven that people still want to go to see movies. And Top Gun. Yeah. Maverick did, I guess, you know. You've been in this industry for a very long time now, a few decades at this point. Forty-one years. Forty-one years. It's an incredible run, and you seem to just kind of keep evolving as an actor. You don't actually seem like you're getting comfortable in a comfortable in a more confident way, but your process still seems to keep evolving. What would you say is things that have changed in Hollywood that have made things more challenging and things that have changed in Hollywood that have made your job even

Starting point is 00:06:04 better or easier to do? That's a great question. It's interesting. You know, when I came to Hollywood, I started working in the low-budget movies with Roger Corman. I did about seven movies, I think, for Roger. And it was really my film school. As a matter of fact, on my LinkedIn, I list Roger Corman University as my college. And that was my film school. And I excelled in that Roger Corman world because I could act and do stunts. And that's why they kept hiring me,

Starting point is 00:06:41 which actually helped me even when I got Terminator 2. But I've always been approaching it that I'm an actor and I want to get better. And, you know, I think, you know, you want to try to show your range. And so, you know, knock on wood, I just, my career has just been where it's just, I, it's, it's cool. And you kind of go, like, I really haven't done anything, you know, maybe Double Dragon was, you know, a misstep. But even that, even that, you kind of watch it and kind of go, it's kind of, it's kind of can't be cool. Yeah, that's fine.

Starting point is 00:07:19 But I've, yeah, I've been very, very fortunate. Number one, that I even got the opportunity to start acting to begin with. Sure, sure. From where I started. I mean, I was 25 years old when I got out here to Hollywood in a desperate attempt to give myself some sort of purpose and what I wanted to do and the fact that I got, it was able to start working. And, you know, it's amazing to me still. And I'm forever grateful for the opportunity that I do get. The business has changed so much, though.

Starting point is 00:07:58 Originally you were, you know, I think in the 80s and the 90s, you were trying to stay out of TV if you wanted to be a film actor. There was like a, there was a definite line. And you didn't venture because if you did, you know, the business will absorb you at whatever level you let it. So I did a lot of movies. and then, you know, and then, you know, somewhere in the 90s, the movies I were doing that were going right to DVD,

Starting point is 00:08:22 and, you know, they're giving me an opportunity to do some cool characters and stuff, but they weren't really that good. And I think when I did The Sopranos, that's when I realized, man, there's some really great writing out there and you're a fool if you don't, you know, start to look to do things on HBO and stuff like that. They, they, they, those, those,

Starting point is 00:08:45 Those became even more prestigious to do, you know. And when I did The Sopranos, I think it really opened up a lot of people's eyes, you know, that was such a vulnerable, pathetic character that no one would ever cast me that way and gave me some great opportunities. That was one of them. And then I got into the X-Files. And that's my favorite role I've ever played. I'll say the Sopranos, before talking with you, people have been like,

Starting point is 00:09:13 oh, yeah, Robert Patrick. And people obviously list some of the heavy hitter ones, Copland included, walk the line. But whenever I mentioned, like, I was in The Sopranos, people light up whenever I mentioned your role. They're like, oh, yeah, that's right. Because it's so against normally what I guess you might call the type you might play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, in my mind, and I have to tell you that I want to express this, I was doing all the pretty horses for Billy Bob Thornton. And he said to me, you know, I was playing Matt Damon's dad.

Starting point is 00:09:43 And he said, you got to lose weight. You got to look like you're near death. You know, so you got to lose weight. You're still smoking? I said, yeah, I'm still smoking. He said, you know, you dropped the weight. So I got very thin. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:55 And when you get that thin, especially a guy like me, I usually go about 220. And I think for T2, I was 160 something. Wow. And so I got real thin and felt very vulnerable. And David Chase hit me up with, this is a role. You're not going to be cast in.

Starting point is 00:10:12 No one would ever see. this way. I think it'd be great. I'd love for you to do it. I read it and I went, it's perfect. Yeah. Because I was very small. Yeah. And, you know, normally I could probably go toe to toe with James Gandafini. But I physically, it didn't look like I could. And so it worked. I mean, it was just timing. It was perfect. It's God. I mean, it's just, it just worked out. And I had the greatest experience doing the Spranos. I love James Gandafini. The guy was the fucking, man, can you cuss on there? Yep. The guy was just amazing. Yeah. Just an amazing actor. Yeah, it was incredible. I loved working with him. And I'm really happy for his son's success. I took Michael

Starting point is 00:11:01 to get his first tattoo. Oh, really? Yeah. I took Michael Gandafini to get his first tattoo. It was an honor. Yeah. You know, would you take me to get a tattoo, a tribute tattoo to my dad? Sure. I'd be I'd be honored. That's incredible. I mean, it's so much of the way when I hear you speak and then even in your role in the Sopranos, your role in peacemaker, you've played a lot of flawed fathers, I would say. Yeah. And. You know, the first father I played was Matt Damon.

Starting point is 00:11:31 Really? Well, fire in the sky, I had some kids. But let's say Matt Damon was my first, like, son. Oh, okay. And then it was Joaquin. Yeah. And I remember my manager at the time said, well, if you're going to be playing all these dads, you're going to be playing all these dads. And then I was like, and then it became, you know, if I listed you the guys that had played my sons over the year, it's, it's an amazing list.

Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah, you got a lot of sons. I got a lot of sons. I've fallen into this father figure kind of thing. Well, it's, it was, I was thinking a lot about it on the car right over here. This might be a slight tangent, but I'm going somewhere with this. like Terminator 2 when I say it's my favorite movie it's a movie associated with my late father like when I was a little boy three years old he bought two laser discs about one for the family to watch and one just for me at three years old and walk the line I grew up with Johnny Cash the only country artist because of my dad's we went opening night to walk the line so it's my favorite musical biopic and like when he died I buried him with a few blu-rays because that's the only way we could really dialogue. was through movies and one of them being Cerminator, too. And with you being a really prolific actor,

Starting point is 00:12:45 and I've heard you speak to about your father, perhaps not being like the best about, go follow your dream, son. I'm curious to know what would be some of the movies that you associate as a great movie experience with your children, and what is a great movie experience that you can recall of with your father or a movie that you watch that makes you think of your father? Well, that's interesting. Well, 2001, my dad took me to the first.

Starting point is 00:13:09 Fox Theater in Atlanta, Georgia. Okay. To see 2001. Amazing. I can't remember how old I was, and it blew my mind. And if you haven't been to the Fox Theater or in Atlanta, it's pretty cool. It's a historic iconic movie theater. He took me to see James Bond, Sean Connery in the 60s.

Starting point is 00:13:32 The first film I think my father took me to was a boy 10 feet tall with Edward G. Robinson about this boy whose parents are killed and he's roaming the Middle East. It's an interesting movie. Gone with the Wind. Wow. My parents were both into the movies growing up and they took me along, you know, being the oldest and they would take me to see these. And it's funny, my parents loved the movie so much. I think that's one of the reasons I sort of drifted into acting. I did get very enamored with how do you get to be one of those people that gets to be up there you know I really I I I consciously remember thinking about that like how do you get to do that you know you wondered about it and then I was you know more focused on sports and stuff when I was

Starting point is 00:14:27 growing up and I never really I messed around with some acting every once in a while but I never really thought that I would be able to pursue it as a career until I realized that nothing else was really capturing my imagination and creatively I felt like I had to be one of those people to be up there telling those stories. My father and I was just talking about this with my son

Starting point is 00:14:52 and my daughter while I was on vacation with them both. You know, my parents grew up in a time where the Great Depression had happened and they had hardship and my parents were are my mother's still alive but they're very worrisome and cautious and they're not really risk willing to take risk they might my father wanted to be a trumpet player he was a very good musician but it seemed like it wasn't sensible um he had an uncle that was a professional drummer

Starting point is 00:15:30 and i think my dad said you know i think i want to get into something more secure so he went into the, you know, work for Lockheed Aircraft Corporation. So he gave up on that idea of being a trumpeter. And then he was satisfied being a father and a provider for his kids. So when I left for Hollywood, there was nothing that they could do. And I think my parents were, you know, really concerned because I was going to move all the way across the country and try something. And I had no connection whatsoever when I got out here. I had no one to go to and say, help me.

Starting point is 00:16:06 And I think they were really worried about it. But, you know, what are you going to do? I mean, I had my headset on and went for it. And I think the funny thing is, is once, you know, you moved to L.A. within weeks, it felt like L.A. just wrapped its arms around me. I kept meeting people that were wanting, trying to do the same thing that I was going to try to do,

Starting point is 00:16:32 get into acting. and it just sort of happened you know and god sort of lays out this plan for you that you don't really see while you're living it but in hindsight you can say if that didn't do that or if i didn't do that if i didn't call that person how you know yeah yeah it's i don't know if i'm articulating no you're you're you're i think just by participating and making the motion and and being the guy to do it and putting yourself in that situation where things can happen

Starting point is 00:17:10 is really what life is all about. Yeah, taking the belief and the action and creating attraction for things. Yeah, and I've always had a really strong relationship with God and I've never, ever felt like I was on my own. I always felt like there was, I always have felt like there was somebody with me whether it was my grandfather that was our colonel in the United States Army that I got to know

Starting point is 00:17:40 and he died when I was five. But I've always felt like I've had somebody with me. And so I'm not, I wasn't as fearful. And I don't think my mother and father had that same kind of, their reaction is always, uh-oh. Yeah. You know, uh-oh. Well, why is uh-oh your first reaction to everything? I mean, there's nothing to be scared of.

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Starting point is 00:19:38 your first order as a new customer at huell.com slash rejects with code rejects. Once again, that's huel.com slash rejects code. Use the code and fill out the post checkout survey to help support the show. Thank you again, Huell, for being a big part of my lifestyle. It's fascinating to hear how, from them coming from the Great Depression, movies must have been. That was a great escapeism, but for you, it made you a dreamer. You know, it's like such an interesting contrast of development. And you've talked so much about your relationship with God.

Starting point is 00:20:10 I've heard you talk about how work can be a sense of purpose for you. When you go into a role, even for like Augie and Peacemaker, do you approach it with that? What is this character's purpose? Do you think about that as you're doing the homework, the question of purpose? Yeah, my process. I don't even know how to articulate my process because I can read a script and you know you can follow along where you're going and you kind of know what your character, what you're about, and you start to put together who you think this person is. I don't know how to describe it any other way than that. You know, the script really informs me and then I try to figure out how to make myself fit in that in that character or put that

Starting point is 00:20:58 character on. And through life experience and people I've met or things that I've seen or witnessed, I can, you know, grab those attributes and form the character. Yeah. I don't know if that answers exactly what you're asking. Sounds like a big process of discovery as you're going along to it. Yeah, yeah. I like to work on things. I've had an acting coach that I've worked with for years, Stephen Bridgewater. I don't work with him that much anymore. He's moved to Nashville. But I like to try different things and find different things and then work really, really hard at the technical aspect of it, like learning your dialogue, being prepared, showed up,

Starting point is 00:21:38 and having thought of a bunch of different things. But then once you're there, you've got to let all that stuff go and just react. And that's where it's beautiful because you start reacting off the other actor. And you can, you know, you find it, you could actually want to try and find and create the magic moments in front of the camera. Yeah. You know, I think, I think, I think most actors

Starting point is 00:22:05 would agree that the more work you do at home on your own, driving yourself crazy, trying to find this stuff, gives you the confidence to get there and just let it all happen. Yeah. And you, you feel like you have a net underneath you. You know you've worked and prepared, and now let's just go have fun. Yeah. No matter if it's, if you're a bad guy, you have to look at that.

Starting point is 00:22:29 That's going to be fun. I'm going to get to play this bad guy. You've really got to tap into that imagination you have as a child where you pretend and make it real. I just saw some footage of Benedict Cumberbatch doing Hamlet. And I was just blown away with, you know, his performance. But you know that there's a process that got him to that point where he could do that soliloquely and make it so just sing. There was hours and hours and hours of grinding dialogue and getting to where you're comfortable to know it,

Starting point is 00:23:09 that you can get up on stage and you can perform it. And it's the same with anything else, like music. There's hours of rehearsals that you and I don't see, but when the band gets up there and they slay it, that's the beauty, I think. And so actors are very much like that. We have to, you know, I don't know anybody that wings it. You know, and I've worked with some really, really great actors

Starting point is 00:23:34 and from Sylvester Stallone, Harrison Ford, Joaquin Phoenix. It's the same process, more or less, right? Yeah. You've got a, I mean, I just watched, sly do this monologue at the at the the the end of the season for uh Tulsa king and i know he worked his ass off on it yeah yeah and i so i you know that to me is like what is that like for sly like i know what it's like for me but what's it like for sly to fucking how does he cram all

Starting point is 00:24:08 that in his head you know what i mean but we all have to do it i've heard what you what you practice in private you're rewarded for in public yeah that's a great way to do it yeah and you were speaking about learning of a character as you're kind of reacting with them in real time. You worked with John Cena a couple of times before you actually worked with him on Peacemaker. And I was privy to a lot of the conversation of people reacting to John Sina as peacemaker for this. Like, wow, I'm surprised of the emotional range and depth he actually has. What's it like for you to be literally witnessing him evolve as an act? John has taken it to a level that I'm so impressed with.

Starting point is 00:24:51 He is so good. Yeah. And he has really created, he's transformed himself into this persona that he's got going on and which he allows him to be very vulnerable and make fun of himself. And he dies deep. I mean, James Gunn and I were, and all the other actors, watching him ad lib. Like, you'll do a scene with him and he'll go off script and he'll start doing stuff and saying stuff. And you're looking at him like, my God, this guy's like researched his ad libs.

Starting point is 00:25:31 They're not, you know, I mean, it's like he's really giving a lot of thought. Like, if I get a chance, I might go down this route. Or if I get another chance, I might go this way. Or I've got this. I've got this prepared. and I've got this, you know, you're like, it kind of makes me feel lazy as an actor.

Starting point is 00:25:49 I'm like, I'm not putting in enough work. You know, John's taking it into another whole level. Yeah, yeah. And it's funny. And his ad libs are funny. He's a fascinating guy. Yeah. He really, really is.

Starting point is 00:26:06 I mean, he's, you know, he taught, I don't know if you remember in the season one, he sat down and he played, home sweet home motley crew he taught himself how to play the piano oh didn't realize yeah he just taught himself how to play the piano hmm i mean that's hard that's not fucking easy you know i mean i'm gonna sit down and teach myself how to you know i admire actors to do that i don't think i don't think i've ever been tested that way and i don't know if i can pull that shit off man you got to learn how to play a guitar for this part.

Starting point is 00:26:44 Really? Do I play it left-handed or right-handed? Whoa, what are you? I'm left-handed. Well, the character's right-handed, so you've got to learn how to do that. I mean, that's so daunting to me right now. Like, man, I don't know if I could do that. You know, I mean, when I see these actors doing this kind of stuff, and I'm going like, fuck, I've never really been tested that way.

Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah. I have such admiration for him. And John's one of them. Yeah. I mean, he's taught himself Mandarin Chinese to speak Chinese for Christ's sake. Oh, yeah, he did a move with Jackie Chan, yeah. I hope John doesn't mind if I tell this. I don't think he will.

Starting point is 00:27:22 First off, when we go in the makeup trailer, John is in the makeup trailer with everybody else. He's not like often starvan, you know, the star section of the thing. He's in there with everybody else. But he's always reading a book. He's always reading a book. Think about that. I don't know what the book. are. I mean, he's always got a different book and he's reading.

Starting point is 00:27:42 Always learning. He's reading about something. He's studying something. We do takes. You know, John will be there. He's present. He's there. He's there. He's there. And then when it's over, he's not going to sit around on the set. He's gone. Now, where he's gone, I'm assuming he's gone back to that book or whatever he's studying or whatever he's working on because he's got so much going on. You know, he's got a wrestling career going on. He's got this and that. this and that my my the guy's got a he's got an unbelievable work ethic you know what i find really

Starting point is 00:28:14 interesting about you too as you were talking i was like you guys both represent two versions of quote unquote and a lot of the roles you guys play as like a certain version of masculinity and what would be your definition today of like what because let me put it like this you play a lot of like tough guys in but really you have this sense of vulnerability even for augy in season one as repulsive as the guy is, there's a strange sense of, I kind of get why Chris would want his approval. There's this weird sense. What is your key to finding the, the heart underneath these like flawed masculine men? Well, I think that, you know, fathers are fathers for the first time when they're fathers. There's no, nobody's born a dad. Right. And so you've got all these different

Starting point is 00:29:07 kinds of dads out there being dads but nobody really knows what's the handbook on being a dad same with motherhood what what's the handbook we're just people that grew up and had children and now it's our job to raise them and we do it in whatever way we can based on the environment we came from yeah so my father was my father was tough he was aloof he was intellectual but he was was a loving guy and I'm not my dad I'm more of a blue collar kind of guy in real life but I can apply you can you you it all comes from your own life experience that you can apply you you can put on these characters as you're portraying them so you get an understanding what was the environment what's the time period this guy's this he was raised this

Starting point is 00:30:07 way you can start to it just it's it's like an equation you put together you know and it it you form it that way um my idea of a man is uh you know informed by the media that i grew up with and i grew up with you know daniel boone on tv and john wayne in the the the the screens you mentioned james bond with your father and james bond sean connery uh those were my dad's. I remember my dad has passed away. It's been 11 years. But my dad was an intellectual and my best friend's dad was an athlete, an All-American shortstop for the University of Georgia. Well, in my mind, that guy's, my friend, Kenny Andrews, his dad was more of a role model of what a dad should be than my dad because my dad was a brain. Oh, interesting. So I kind of

Starting point is 00:31:02 looked at his dad like, ah, that's cool. Yeah. My dad, not so cool. you know which I I know that sounds terrible but that I'm saying that but I actually get it this other kid's dad was was more of who I connected with I understand he was a great athlete I was a good athlete you know going you know through school so I sort of aspired to that guy so it's all informed I think that people that have a good heart know the difference between right and wrong yeah uh which is why you know my frustration is is that i haven't had the opportunity to play more um people that have a good heart do know the difference between right and and and i'm on the right that's why you know i'm on i'm that's why john dogged was such a great

Starting point is 00:31:58 character for me i see now i see he had such a great heart and then later i did scorpion where the guy had such a great heart and he was a good good good dude and you knew he was solid. Yeah. You know what I mean? That those are, that's to me like what a father should be. Someone that can provide, take care of his family. He's there for his family and has a good moral sense, moral compass, I think, personally. That's excellent. Excellent. So But, you know, mine's based on, you know, I've been going to church since I was a little kid. I still go to church. I go to church every Sunday. I like, I like that part of it and of the spiritual part of my life. It informs everything that I do. Well, with Augie in season two, I was so curious

Starting point is 00:32:51 to know this. You were just speaking about like environmentally, the background, the conditioning, these building blocks of creating a character. Sure. And with the backst, how much of the backstory for you personally? Maybe I don't know if this will lead to spoilers or not. Um, how much of the backstory did you keep from the Augie from season one, which is very different and there's a very pivotal moment when Chris kills Keith and that seems to be the dividing line, which is not in this multiversal version, which has led to a very different type of Augie and his relationship with his kids. Did you do, do you just change that moment in time? Did you have to start from scratch for the most part? No, it's the same guy. Same guy. Same guy, but just a different point of view. Okay. And same guy. Same guy. father that was tough, he hated everybody, for whatever reason he hated everybody. Flip the switch. Same guy, he's tough, but he loves everybody. He believes in good.

Starting point is 00:33:47 It's the same guy. We all have that. You can wake up one day and just be a bear, you know, and you've got this edge on you. Or you can wake up and go, God, I'm grateful to be alive. I'm just going to try to be a good person all day. I'm just going to try to be good. You know what I mean? I mean, it's, I think it's every, every, every, every, we're all capable.

Starting point is 00:34:15 We know where we've been tempted to do things we shouldn't do or whatever. We all know it's there. Yeah. Does that make sense? It does. It does. So it's, it's, you know, the Augie in season two is the same Augie in season one. except he's got a different point of view.

Starting point is 00:34:37 And he's got a whole different set of values. That's so fascinating. And I can see it cleanly. Yeah. You know, I've got this great speech that's coming up, which I think is going to hopefully blow people away that that's Augie Smith. That's not the Augie Smith from the first, it's so completely opposite of what the first season,

Starting point is 00:35:03 Noggy Smith was like. Yeah, yeah. I can't wait for that. Yeah, I can't wait for that. It was a hard one. It was a tough speech. It was one of those speeches while I was doing it. I was like, God, thank God they're giving me the other guys getting their coverage first.

Starting point is 00:35:19 While I continue to rehearse this in my, I thought I had it, I thought I had it, I thought I had it, I think I have it, I think I, oh, I got it, I got it, I got it. Yeah. I appreciate the consistent level of honesty that you've been. and I know we're over your time. I want to kind of end this on a little bit of a fun note. Terminator 2 has been parodied a bunch. Sure.

Starting point is 00:35:42 And I brought a Walk the Line earlier and have my favorite musical biopic. And there was a parody movie I personally really love, Walk Hard. Yeah, I never really saw that movie. Oh, you never saw it? I know, but I've seen clips where that guy goes, wrong son died.

Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah. You know, the interesting thing, I should probably take a look at that. That was the line of dialogue, and there was a line of dialogue that James Mangold that I changed where I rant raven in the little Dias, Arkansas house, the sharecropper house, and I'm throwing things around and I'm screaming at God. And James had written it where God took my baby.

Starting point is 00:36:24 He was like cursing God. And I said, you know, he's not going to curse God. He's going to curse the devil. The devil took his baby. baby and snatched him right from him so we're gonna we're gonna curse the devil and mango loved it and when you hear it when you watch walk the line i literally you know scream you know the devil took my baby the devil took my boy that's powerful stuff it is i you know i believe as much as i believe in god i is as much as i believe in the devil yeah you can't believe in one and not to

Starting point is 00:37:02 other. So that's the, what we're talking about here more or less. I mean, there's, there's evil and there's good. And there's a clean line to get to it. You just have to be susceptible and go for what's good. Okay, then that'll be my real last question. For the characters that you build, do you usually consider what their faith level is and what their faith might actually be? No, but my faith gives me an understanding of it, how vulnerable we are as human beings. And so anything that you can conceive a human being is capable of doing so as good as you can conceive a human being to be you can they can be just as bad yeah and in between there is all of us living and you're going to meet people that you just know give off a bad vibe and

Starting point is 00:37:53 they're just bad people yeah and you're horrified at what they do um but you're also, when you go to the movies and you see someone doing something incredibly good and kind, it has the same impact on you in a different way. Right? I agree.

Starting point is 00:38:13 So in between there, that's what you grab and apply to your character as you're working. This thing I have coming up with Tulsa King, this guy I'm playing, it's one of the most complicated characters I've ever done. And I can't wait to see what they do with it because this guy is a deeply religious guy. And you can take religion to an extreme that's not beneficial to a lot of people around you

Starting point is 00:38:38 if you get too extreme with it. So, yeah, it's interesting, man. It's a big, big world, big universe, we're all here doing it. And I think our storytelling that we're doing now through movies and platforms are very beneficial to people. Best empathy experience, I feel. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Robert, you are the shit. I really appreciate your time.

Starting point is 00:39:03 I appreciate your background and research you did for this interview. I appreciate it very much. Oh, man, thank you so much. It's an honor. It's easy when I've been already following this information for years. So I was like, yeah, I know exactly what I want to do. I appreciate it. I appreciate it very much.

Starting point is 00:39:18 And I can't wait to see whether the epic monologue is in Peacemaker Season 2. Thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you again, Robert. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you.

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