The Reel Rejects - MONARCH: LEGACY OF MONSTERS EPISODE 2 REACTION!! Godzilla | Kong | 1x2 Breakdown & Review

Episode Date: November 18, 2023

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That's just out in the open. Comment below what creature this is, guys. Yeah, it's got to be one from the Pantheon. That shot of the three of them just like looking over the ridge. Yeah, and you had randa looking all like, oh, what wonder. Beauty. You know what I wonder at when I'm looking up at things? where people can get the freshest drips at

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could easily lose. So you're like, yeah. No, I had to, yeah, in that moment, I was like, is it... Because so lost for a second. Yeah, because... I got really lost in the timeline there. Yeah. With, like, oh, wait, which...

I mean, you kept me on track there. Man. no like it does 50 70s yeah yeah because I was because even in the first episode I was going like okay because because you know I like that they give us the credit of like okay we're gonna name the years up top and then we're gonna let you keep track as we go there's a fine line between heavy exposition and getting the audience be smart but there's a fine line and I am too dumb to take it no lame show when everyone else is probably able to keep up just fine well I do think that like yeah you know if we're We were sitting in complete silence alone. You know, it probably wouldn't be that hard. But there are throwing a good amount at you and they are jumping back and forth. And they are riding waves of tension between the two timelines.

So there are times when you are just like caught up in the immediacy of the moment and then you're like, oh, wait, wait. And I also appreciate they're going back and forth at times between English and Japanese. So, you know, like they're, it's, I think, asking that you process a little more quickly than like an average show might. and I appreciate that. But what did you think of the episode? I enjoyed this quite a lot. I think this is building nicely on the first one. And I was, you know, I mean, I think first and foremost, like the previous episode,

we were mostly wishing like, yeah, I want to, you know, like really connect to the characters a bit more, but I'm really loving the build of the mystery in the world and the, you know, lore and all that stuff. And here, like, they didn't do necessarily like crazy amounts of character building. But I really enjoyed that much more spending time with the characters. and you know especially in the past you know exploring this situation like I thought in this one it got to breathe quite nicely of them you know meeting the scientists and and Wyatt Russell and then you know kind of introducing their vibe and dynamic and then running into Andersholm out in the wilderness and how that came to be and then you know everything in the present well these are a character building in a different way of holding a telescope It's a microscope. Same concept.

Holding a microscope up in different areas during the dialogue. Like last episode was a little bit more set up. But then you get these little nuggets here of like motivations behind Randa or a little bit more subtleties or details, I would say, in aspects of the dynamics and the conversation back and forth. Like when in the past in the 50s and the three of them are meeting each other and you get. Okay, so you get some about Shaw when he's first introduced, Bitpocalypse Now, Stylisk, and then you get, with the, I forget, everyone's name, the good of the grandma in the past, I need to commit her name in particular, because, yeah, they said it a bunch of times. Yeah, she's a very important character. By last name, thinking it was a guy. Yeah, yeah.

So the doctor. The doctor. And then, and then, of course, Randa and his past with the war. and understanding their motivation. And a lot of times, like, some of the character building just comes in getting you a little bit more invested in the character build,

in the motivation itself. And then with the immediate moment of the present, or at least the 2015 timeline of the present, with the mom seeming to know a little bit more than she lets on of the son. Yeah, Kentaro. I am very curious about him, especially because the dad.

I feel like he is one of their, he's like the kid of one of them. Who, the dad? The, Kentaro. Like part of me doesn't believe that the dad who she came to Japan to find out about

is actually his dad. I almost feel like there's some weird thing of like he's what, like, you know, he looked out for the kid after like Randa disappeared or something. okay maybe i don't know i'm just i'm just projecting you know it's it's but they it's just i don't know there's something that the implication is that okay so we're understanding this gap here because there's grandparents and grandchildren that's right yes right that's what we're we're going with

and then there's randa who's the grandpa randa being john goodman okay which is bill randa who we're seeing in the 50s that the son is the father of the brother and sister right am i understanding that is am i am i incorrect about that yes that would make the most because yeah they're both they're both randah they're both randah right yeah yeah both the brother and sister are randa okay you're right so then their kid would have randa as a last name and could and would ostensibly be the guy we've seen in all these pictures so the son is like when this when rand in episode one and and and uh asian doctor lady so yes they had a kid that kid is the father who mysteriously disappeared in alaska right okay yes so so i'm gonna

amend my theory slightly because yeah that that all checks out i i think yeah i think you're right turned into a full japanese man well it's hard to find a half white half japanese actor well yeah you've Got it, you know, Anders Holm and John Goodman both don't have, like, especially dark, you know, like hair feature. They have, like, brownish hair, but they're not, like, really dark hair. I like Wizards of Waverly Place. And for some reason, David Henry and Selena Gomez are brother and sister, so I'll get on board. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this kid who looks just completely 100% Japanese.

Yeah. But now I think you are correct. I am going to put my, you know, like bets on. I mean, it has to be right. They said they're both Miranda's. No, no, no, that. But I'm saying the name would pass down. But I think maybe the idea is that it's actually Kurt Russell's grandson.

These are like Kurt Russell's great. Yeah, I think one of them is correct. That was one of the things we were saying in last episode, that one of their kids is Kurt Russell. There you go. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And that's probably why the mom was being like, you go see this guy.

Like the missing guy might end up being his actual son. Yeah. I think Japanese mom. Yes. Japan family Randa. Japan family. Japan family Randa. Yes.

That's Kerr Russell's. Yes. And then Americans is not Kerr Russell's. The one in America, because it seems like Kerr Russell, the Russell's have been, Shaw have just been in, in Japan, have just remained in Japan this whole time. Well, it would just make it so that if he is both of their dad, then it just makes it so that, Actually, Russell is both of their grandfirm. Yeah, it's a bit of a Stark situation,

like a Ned Stark's situation. Kind of, yeah, where like eventually we might find out that not only are these two kids. Because how do you have a family like that? Yeah, like these two kids are going to wind up having to find out the truth about their father who was leading this double life. Only to probably find that they are also helping his father find out more about his son, you know?

Yes. And so they all find out by the end that they are a family. Yeah. And then the question mark becomes, who is the lady in America? Who's mom in America? This is the real mystery. This is, well, we give a shit about what's going on in modernity. Well, we're like, what is the family lineage exactly?

The monster shit is like really fun and intriguing. And I love that side of the lore. But in a way, it is much more straightforward than like the actual implications of what this family is. But we know where they're like, that's the one problem with the monster. The story line is, like, we kind of know a lot already. Yeah, we do. And I find it. So they have to make the mystery of like, where'd the dad go?

The most intriguing shit. Well, yeah. Because the stuff of Monarch, I'm like, well, we know most of it already. If you've seen the three movies they made. Yeah, I think it's fun and interesting that they've done this because, I mean, you know, maybe we're over-complicating things or something. But I feel like in addressing the fact that, yeah, we already know a lot about Monarch at this point in time especially and also nobody it's well documented that no one cares about

humans in any godzilla related property like i think they've smartly created this very sort of convoluted set of just human circumstances yeah to like oddly make that more engrossing and and like it's still drama but it's also like convoluted enough that it kind of feels less saddled with being heavy you know yeah but i i think The thing, though, is, like, I find the brother and sister who the show started off with, out of everyone here, they're the least interesting characters. Yes. And I think they're putting their all into making the daughter the most, they're trying. I think they want that to be the most interesting character, like with having the Godzilla trauma.

Like, and it's just easily triggered by PTSD. She's the one set up for the most character growth, you know. yeah and and and but there's so many more interesting people that things that surrounding them and like the son is really not that interesting to me see the thing is i'm i'm rooting for the both of them the son the problem for me is that ostensibly the lead the the daughter whose name i also need to commit to memory she right now is the least interesting character oh she's the least interesting to you okay yeah only because i put the son above her. I find her performance perhaps a bit more interesting, but the thing is the sun I feel like has just had more direct focus and a more autonomous plot, whereas like the things that are interesting about our lead so far about Kate are mostly like Godzilla of PTSD that isn't her specifically.

It's like a cool device attached to her. And I don't think her performance is bad or anything like that. It's just like, at least in this episode, she felt like kind of at the bottom of the totem pole of things being focused on. Right. And I felt like we just spent the least, like she has that exchange with the guy in the terminal, with him in the terminal, and she has to evade. And there's the whole thing with the cops. And I think they're doing like a decent job as much as we joke and as much as people like to roll their eyes at, you know, acknowledging power structures and how, you know, social interactions between men and women and different races have changed. I think they're, they're like nicely kind of commenting on that stuff.

But even there, I felt more for the moments between Wyatt Russell and Keiko, the doctor, when they're kind of getting into that versus her going to the police station, which could have been one of those very relatable situations. I imagine for a lot of people and women especially where it's like, I am trying to seek help for an immediate threat. And you're not any help, you know. And so, yeah, I just, I didn't think anything was bad about her character or involvement in the episode. it just didn't feel like they spent much on it, you know? Yeah, and I think the show is kind of in a weird corner because we know what monarch is all about already. Yeah.

And this whole show with our main characters is uncovering who, what monarch is. Yes. I'm like, we, we know what monarch is. Yeah. And like, I think the show probably works best for if you've only, if this had come out, immediately after Godzilla and Kongs. If there was no, I don't need,

you need Kong Skull Island. Yeah. If it came out after the first two where we're not spending as much time with Monarch or, I don't know, like, yeah, throughout those movies, they're dealing with stuff and we're at least getting glimpses into their operation.

There's that whole thing with Vera Farmiga and she's got the device and they're involved with that. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. I mean, like oddly enough, like in this recent glut of like we need to take these popular franchises and build them out into shows like a lot of them seem really ill-advised and this to me actually does not it's just that and and that actually doesn't really bother me that much of like I think it's funny that yeah it's like where can we

something like monarch to me seems like you could endlessly kind of dole out you know interesting little revelations because we only saw certain things that they're working on so I think like there are still ways to make the shadowy organization interesting. I still overall find the show really fun. Yeah, but I'm really enjoying the show. But it does. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, but it does feel.

When you step back, though, you're like, what exactly are we shining a light on here within large? Yeah, and it feels like if they had positioned this after Godzilla and Kong Skull Island, then you could have it be like we're finding out about Monarch. And then, you know, occasionally we're going to look way up. Yeah. You know, in scale, you know, for this movie is like, you know, Godzilla King of the Monsters are like Godzilla versus Kong and then go back to the, you know, more ground level stuff and they could develop side by side. But being that we don't live in that reality, I think this is, you know, doing a decent job in spite of that, you know.

Yeah, yeah, because they're telling a conspiracy thriller right now. Yeah, and I think adding, you know, conspiracy sci-fi thriller. Yeah, totally. And adding, this is already sci-fi. And I hadn't really thought about it, even though there's so much Godzilla. already in all of the Cloverfield stuff. But adding a little bit of that timey, whimy, you know, peripheral sci-fi of a slightly different, more surrealist sci-fi. Sure.

Just a sprinkling of that on top of it is a nice portent for this show. Sure, sure, sure, yeah, yeah. Because I was fully expecting them to come out like, you know, somewhere else when they were in the ship. You know, like you were like some kind of time rift or something. Yes. Yeah, I mean, especially because it's how the hollow. Earth teaser. Yeah, totally.

But right now, it seems like when we talk about it after that we're not enjoying, I guess it just leads me to the question. Because I'm enjoying everything about like, oh, the way it's shot is great. The immediacy is very enjoyable. Yeah.

And then I will get pulled into the immediate moment. And maybe my mind has just been a little conditioned when you're doing your show called Monarch and you're building on a monster universe for me to think about what its contribution is to the bigger part of the universe of like what new part of the universe but in the immediacy of the moment

I will get pulled into like the threat and the perspective like when Cantaro is in the apartment and Monarch is coming across like the worst villains of the worst villains when we really know they're not actually the worst of the worst and and and you got like

opposing you know tough lady person oh yeah you got Maria Hill yeah and then the mom has to stall And that actually had me, because I was like, is he going to go in there and he's going to like mock something up or get some like dummy paper? Like when he snuck out, I was like, oh, this is one of the rare occasions where like that actually kind of worked on me. Yeah, yeah. It's like the movies always make it seem like monarch.

No, we need monarch actually. Like that's what they always do. They're a necessary evil or they're, yeah, like they're not even that evil. They're just doing some secret government ship. But they're always, yeah, caught up in in the pursuits of the people kind of governing them at the time. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, sure, they harbor secrets about the bigger things of these titans, but they're not really evil, you know? They're not, yeah, like...

At least the movies don't make them seem evil. Yeah, no, they're, there are like a shadowy faceless organization in ways that, yeah, like, yeah, I think you're right. They're not evil. They're like chaotic neutral, I guess. Yeah, definitely. And so I will get pulled into, like, the immediacy of what the characters are feeling a lot of the time. with, you know, fearing for their lives and whatnot. And then am I interested in finding out what happened to the dad?

Absolutely. But I am more intrigued by like, oh, yeah, what happened with Kurt Russ? See, that's the part of it that I'm really enjoying is when I'm hearing, like, okay, what happened with Shaw's? Like, how did he go from that to where he's being held captive? Yeah. You know, like resort prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened with, because we saw John Gim and die in Kong Skull Island.

so what happened with this family now and how do we get so there's like a lot of those intrigues I'm very I'm very much invested in and I want to uncover that I guess it's when I'm looking at the bigger picture of how it factors into the legacy of monsters it doesn't really do anything for me there but I like when the monsters show up I'm just not because it's like we know what's going on already there obviously right like we well that don't we don't we know who's going on that and also we don't have Kurt Russell in the previous movies yeah yeah so it's like you know it's a completely new thing that they're going to have to you know just just conscientiously it's still early though yeah yeah we're so I'm not doubting it but I'm saying like the the job they have to do is to go oh this guy was always involved and here's why and and maybe why you haven't heard about or seen him yet up until now yeah you know I guess the some I it into the simplistic form, what are they going to discover that can lead into like a, oh shit, we have unpacked something here to the lore that we could, that has not been

acknowledged yet at all in the films. How are we going to do something as crazy as like finding Hollow Earth? Yeah. Yeah. Or, because we already know what's happening. Yeah, because we'll be excited about creatures. there's a whole coterie, a whole gallery of creatures you could go for. But at the same time, that's, I don't think, enough to, you know, really propel this for a long

time is just being like, oh, which creature is going to be next? Yeah. You make that like a monster a week. I know. I know. I'm sure that's some creature you all fucking know. I have no idea of it. Yeah, I couldn't identify it.

But now I'm sitting here half the time going like, okay, are they going to make up half new sort of generic creatures for the show and then occasionally do like a famous one? Are they all going to be referential? Yeah, but that's fun, and that's the chance to, you know, there's so many of these movies and so many creatures. That's a fun opportunity to, you know, jump into the expanded because, you know, not everybody has seen all of the gods zila. No, but as far as a conspiracy thriller goes, as far as political intrigue, I love the music, I love the direction. I think there's a lot here that is really, really working for me. In the immediate moment, I'm having a really fun time watching it.

Yeah. No, I'm really enjoying this. And I like unpacking the mystery for the characters. And maybe perhaps I'm getting too caught up in the bigger picture, but I also blame the show because it's called Monarch Legacy of Monsters or wherever the hell the title is called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you've trained my, I think that sets your mind up to go to think about those things.

Yeah, no, it totally does. Yeah, and then, you know, it needs, it needs. Instead of me just going, oh, we're going to the thing we know. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, for people to love it, it just needs. needs to make some sort of impact that feels pertinent or, or, you know, immediate or vital or fresh or something. Yeah.

And yeah, like, because it's, it seems to focus on the family's secret. Yeah. Not really the monarch secret, which is probably what the, which is what the show needs. Sure. Yeah. And I mean, you know, there are monarch secrets within that, but they're not. I think, yeah, it's kind of smart not to make it like only about what are the monarch secrets because we do know a fair amount of them.

When you went into an MCU problem where people feel like, oh, I missed something when I was watching the fall-up to Godzilla versus Kong because I didn't watch their Apple TV show. Yeah, and maybe in a way that is a good in-road if somebody happens to catch this and they haven't seen all the Monsterverse stuff, then they're like, oh, there's a couple movies beforehand and there's a couple movies

after, you know, maybe. And I was very disappointed because the show is so much different than the movies. Sure. Yeah, the movies are so good. To see. So big. Do we know how many episodes is going to be in total this season? No idea. 6 to 8. Okay. Because, yeah, I mean, like, I'll be

really curious like I would be excited if this is something that can stick the landing and keep moving because I think of all again things to spin off into a series this actually kind of could make sense whereas a lot of them seem like you know what are you doing but yeah yeah I don't know I don't know exactly what it needs to live up to and I'm not necessarily sitting here with a specific set of expectations I think mostly if they can just keep that air of you know just foreboding mystery and that sort of peripheral sci-fi eerieness. I think that'll go a long way. Yeah, man.

I think there's some exciting things to come. And I feel like the dad's definitely alive. Yeah, he's got to be out there somewhere. I think he's definitely alive in Alaska. He's in Alaska. He's just sitting on an oil tanker. A thousand percent. But yeah, overall, still really enjoying the show.

And I'm excited to see how it ultimately unfolds. And you know, we'll definitely get some more actual Godzilla soon. But what did you guys think? Leave your thoughts down below. Be sure to subscribe, leave a like. And hey, listen to this for the patron of the day. Shout out. All right, guys, since we only have a few days,

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What happened? I thought I reignited that. Chris is holding it down single-handed. Chris is literally doing so. Are you? You should be giving everything. I thought I invested money into the time we were out here in Santa Monica. Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. But that's not the same as you contributing more. Yeah. You know. So what gives? Yeah, Anisa. But Chris, how much is there to do? Thank you for being you.

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I'm really grateful for that, that I really, do feel like I can be my full real self around you make jokes like that or um it wasn't a joke was serious no I can make jokes like that and um and then have like a real conversation as well and I it's it's actually a little bit harder for me to find that more and more these days and and and and your spirit just sort of allows for that and I'm really grateful for that so thank you for thank you for being you and you have in all fairness which you guys the joke is rooted in the fact that she has contributed massive amounts of supporting in so many ways over so much time we go live people would pressure her and are just giving it of such a ridiculous joke so yeah you're

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