The Reel Rejects - MONARCH Season 1 Episode 8 REVIEIW & BREAKDOWN

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:23 Monarch Legacy of Monsters. What episode are we on? I think we're on episode eight. Doesn't matter. It's in the title. It's eight. All righty guys, well, you know what? I don't eight when you guys answer me this specific question. Who would you rather have as a sibling? Kate or Kentaro, leave it in the comments below and be very descriptive as to why you would choose one of them.
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Starting point is 00:02:12 It's the best place. That's where John and Greg cover several shows exclusively with highlights and watch-alongs included. And I say, let's just get our Kirstie Clemens on. Let's do it. Do this. Clemons. Let's go. oh yeah damn it was not the end up we were both wrong we were both wrong
Starting point is 00:02:41 the answer definitely more important yeah it's good yeah man I like when ants find the clues you have to follow the bug see where it goes that's all you have to do and it'll tell you the answer to what you're looking for that's all dad did you just watched bugs walk all over his graphs and maps watch the ants oh no cora you've fallen in what do i do to get you out i don't know why dad was here i don't even want to go on this adventure but i guess i will shaw's in there he's gonna blow it up it's so good right it's all his lines dude you're you could be in the in the in the I could have been in Monarch.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I could be in the show. I'm here to audition for Monarch. I can see a Monsters. I'm going to play the sun. I'm really bent about my dad. I used to be an artist. Now I'm not anymore because I didn't like the bullshit. And now I got my sister, who I hate,
Starting point is 00:03:50 but I follow around everywhere. Even though all my dialogue is mostly about how I don't want to do that. I don't even want to be here. I just want to go home to Japan with my mama, who's one of the best characters on the show. That's a good joke, John. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Thank you. The joke is good. We should remember that for the future. I'm not here to make jokes. I just want to review the episode. Take this seriously, Greg. I am. Me too.
Starting point is 00:04:26 What did you think of the episode? I liked it. I liked this episode. Did you think it was the best one we've had so far? It might be. It's one of the better ones. Best. I don't know if it's the best one, but it's one of the good ones.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Last one was easily the best. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I mean, the Tim episode is always going to reign supreme, but this could be like top four out of eight so far. This could be number four in the top four out of eight. I don't know. I don't know where I would rank it.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It's not as good as the Tim episode, but I like this episode. and this one, you know, I got a little maybe confused with which point in time we were at in different parts of the flashbacks, but... Maybe. Maybe. Most definitely. I definitely got confused. I said to you, John.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Well, that first scene there in the car, and they're like talking about the kid. And I was like, no, that's not it, John. But they're talking about Hiroshi, aren't they? They're talking about a kid of some kind. Yeah. You know some random ass kids? But that was in Kurt Russell's flashback when he was in the truck.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And then Michelle interrupted his flashback. That's right. That's, hey, that's very good attention to visual storytelling. And we were in the POV of him. Yes, true. In the flashback. Kurt Russell wasn't in the room with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:53 In fact, I don't know who's POV flashback we're watching there. I think we're just watching a flashback I was watching them he was dropping on that sure in the yeah before he comes out and is like Kate you talk to me yeah yeah he's listening to all that he's just chilling back there
Starting point is 00:06:10 he's just like waiting for the right cue to come out he was touching himself you know he got a love story yeah and because they fell in love he made a careless decision and he's like I'm telling the general about how Godzilla's alive
Starting point is 00:06:29 because you don't love me and I'm mad at that and I'm going to spitefully make sure that you and Bill both are elevated with me so that you can never fully detach yourselves from me because I did this this is going to get you killed now I made the sacrifice the main model what it is
Starting point is 00:06:48 so alive the show could not be more obvious she's very much alive she's coming back I would be more surprised if she's not a lot. She won't have aged a day. I don't think she's aged. No. How long were they in Hollow Earth for?
Starting point is 00:07:04 How did they get to Hollow Earth? I don't know. I mean, she got a lot of questions I have. As I thought Hollow Earth was like this really difficult thing to traverse to get into. And like, are they going against the rules and Godzilla? I didn't think you could just fall into it. Well, I wonder if we see Kay get taken away by that like pile of roached thing. So, I don't know, maybe, like, they shielded her from whatever boundaries there are.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I don't know. And I don't know how that would account for Shaw getting through. Or coming back. Or coming back, yeah. I don't understand any of this, John. None of it makes any sense. And it won't. The show's over.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It's done. It's the last thing. So what was your favorite part about it? My favorite part about it, uh, Tim. Always good. Tim. Uh, I liked the scenes. in the past, especially
Starting point is 00:07:57 between Anders Holm and the actress who plays Kay. Right. I liked their little intimate scenes together. We've gotten a lot of the Shaw perspective on that romance triangle and this episode was I think the first one that
Starting point is 00:08:13 really focused on Randa and Kay Miura having romantic chemistry together. So yeah, I liked all those sweet little moments. And even It's a, you know, it's a version of the, you know, poking a pencil to the paper thing. Like, I thought the ants were fun.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like, you know that something's going to come out of that. And that was fun. I guess that was my favorite aspect of the episode. And then, I mean, seeing them, I did, you know, being at Monarch, being with, you know, everybody trying to figure all this stuff out, you know, when you have our main characters in that environment, I was with it. I was enjoying it. It was really just that one scene where they go back into the hallway where Kate and Kittaro
Starting point is 00:08:58 talk of the hallway and I was like, oh yeah, this is the stuff I don't like about this show, but the rest of it was all pretty engaging, pretty fun. And yeah, this was one that felt like monsters and Titans are looming even though you don't see tons
Starting point is 00:09:14 of them. You do get the one at the end, but even like with the molted husks, the exoskeletons and stuff. That was neat. It was pretty cool. What was your favorite aspect of the episode, Greg? All the stuff that you said that was your favorite, was easily my favorite. Hey. I still find the 50s flashbacks, the most compelling.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I am so absorbed into the monster verse as it is that the immediacy of the journey is kind of just raised. This one was one of those episodes where connectivity raised quick. questions for me, and I found myself a little distracted by that. Sure. Because I'm like, well, all this stuff about, like, sealing off hollow earth and consequences of that, well, I'm fully aware that we just got, we have a big, big movie in coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:07 And he's kind of like, he's like, Shaw's kind of like the reversal of Vera Farminga from, don't yawn? Never yawn during your monologue, gee. Hold it in. Hold it in. I drive to the top of Laurel Canyon Mountain and yawn before you show up to make sure I get that out of my system and no one is in sight
Starting point is 00:10:29 and then I drive back here and so I'm running a little bit behind because I had to go yawn someplace to be respectful to the highest peak you don't think I want to yawn look how tired I look I can barely keep my eyes open on camera
Starting point is 00:10:43 you're perpetually tired wow that's rude oh I thought you're going to say I was racist That's rude. It's also rude. It's not racist. Good. Asian people are always wide awake.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yes. So what's your excuse? Or at least what's half of your excuse? Anyway, John. Yeah. Or should I say, yawn. That was a good one. Got there.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Puns. He's the inverse of Vera Formiga. Yeah. Vera Fermega's like, I want all the type-ins. a rule and rain and i think we could live a much better life that way because i'm smart and i definitely know what's best for my child yeah and instead of keeping them in their world and us and ours let's just let them have all of it and and shaw is Kurt russell's a rather compelling character is this man who you know he's always always like mr charismatic guy but underneath all that
Starting point is 00:11:44 charisma is a lot of pain of loss of bill loss of loss of Keiko. Loss of Keiko and you know decisions that were made the consequences and he he lives with all that
Starting point is 00:12:03 and now he was trying to make amends he's atoning he's on a path of atonement but is his path of atonement the right choice you know or is he being clouded by his own personal feelings so I think there's a lot of very interesting character stuff
Starting point is 00:12:19 that they're doing with him um yeah i mean look we can't go a video without mentioning i think kate and kentaro are still too very boring characters man like what the hell happened with them in this episode you know kate's seen where kirk russell's good but who's the interesting character there kirk russell i mean kirk kher russell
Starting point is 00:12:43 kate's there to be like yeah i looked at kudzl in the eyes yes he saw me and i saw him And she steps in to be like, there will be no murder today. Yeah. Because I am embracing my character arc, I think, is what is I'm accepting of my legacy. I really wanted some catharsis from that moment. I don't know what my role is exactly. Yeah, it felt like that.
Starting point is 00:13:15 My blood and monarch. And I really wish that would pay off so that we could get you guys more vitally involved in this plot. I kind of like them back and forth thing in the truck about like, he's not going to shoot us. He wants us here.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I thought that was okay. That was when I was like... He's not going to shoot us. That's one time Cantaro's dejected same delivery seems purposeful. Yes. True. Agree.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And I mean, this was perhaps... I mean, Kurt Russell has always been like good, but this was an episode where I was like, oh, okay, I could feel like the... how the old, how the, you know, 50s version of you
Starting point is 00:13:49 became this guy. I can feel the history here. Yeah. Um, but I think in terms of getting distracted by connectivity, I was like, I'm not really sure what,
Starting point is 00:13:58 I still am waiting for this show to be like, all right. You've really contributed something to the world building. Yeah. Something fresh and vital and important that'll come up in Godzilla X-Con. Like, look how Apex came to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I was really, really scratching at the dog. How did this happen? How is there an apex? Who would come up with a company that makes tech like that? What? It's not possible, Gene. I didn't know. Got to know.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And in terms of hollow earth stuff, uh, yeah, it's, if anything, what they, but the shows, I think the show's done really well in terms of connectivity is the most subtle thing they've done is how, how much they have re-contextualized John Goodbe. man's character. Yeah, true. Who just gets, like, funnily often, Kong Skoll Island. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. The guy gets killed at one. I try to forget about that stuff. He's just going to die. I know. He's just going to have a death scene. You know, hey, maybe this will. If you took everything you see in this show,
Starting point is 00:15:07 put it in timeline order leading to that scene, where he dies and be like, man, that's how he goes. Man, what a bummer. Wow. And ceremonious death I gave this guy. But anyway, yeah, that's just that. But that's how life is, though.
Starting point is 00:15:27 That is how life is. And if there's one thing this monster show does, is a represent life. So there's that. And, Jersey Clemens is fine. I don't understand this thing about their blood. They keep talking about it.
Starting point is 00:15:46 They got blood, juju. I think they're more like a good luck coin that Tim carries around with him. I didn't want to say fortune cookie because that would have sounded racist. Sure. That actually would have sounded racist. Yes. Even though that was just the metaphor I was looking for. It would have sounded racist if I say good luck fortune.
Starting point is 00:16:06 That's true. Good thing that you acknowledged that. Good thing I acknowledge it. Thus thwarting racism another day. Yeah, I did. I beat it. But it is, they are just kind of like a good look token to keep around, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Because they don't really do anything other than, hey, I stumbled upon this piece of information that was just right here in front of me. Wow. For people who look at their data and then recheck their data all the time, like you would think that they would be great at catching stuff like this. It was just always there to be like, these random kids are. They got special random blood. They know stuff that we don't know. They're uncovering things. They got some special connection to all this.
Starting point is 00:16:54 They're monarch blood. It's about belief now. It's not about science anymore, John. We've entered the territory of spiritualism with the monsters. It's all of the above. They're going to worship Godzilla in the next one. So, yeah, there's that. I mean, I think this was a vice.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I'd probably rate this as like the third or fourth best, honestly. I would agree. You said this was the best. I did. I said it was the absolute best episode. He said it was the best. I said it was one of the better ones. And then I said not better than Tim.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You're like, well, not better than Tim. I said one of. I didn't say it was the bad. I definitely did not say it was the best. You said it was better than every episode and all the reacher episodes. I definitely said that. This is what happens when someone is. forced to yes and you can't get them to ever grow a pack of you know hey screw you buddy i said
Starting point is 00:17:51 no such thing they don't defend themselves i'm gonna re-edit the the part where i said one of the best into this after this point so the people know face facts tim you you are the tim of the real you're coward it away you're the tim of the real rejects i'm not for field work i'm the cantaro Kate and I just want a way better character than either of them combined No no no But you are the chosen one I guess
Starting point is 00:18:23 No all I do is wine speak dryly You're Kiko Yeah man Kiko she's wonderful Oh yeah who's Kiko's Husband who's the real father The real bloodline dad It's not in the dad jeans
Starting point is 00:18:39 We keep looking at the dad's DNA It's all in the mom Oh, my God, monarchs woke. Mother Earth, Mother Nature, Mother Titan. Monarch, mother of legacy. Legacy of mothers. Momark. Legacy of monny.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Legacy of mommies. Legacy of mommies. Oh, God. That's really where the legacies. We keep looking at the male DNA. Yeah. But that's where we're going from Grandma to Kate, the greatest characters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:08 From Kate to Kate. Kate. Got to love Kate. Gotta love her. Got to love Kate. You know. We've been over this. We don't need to go over to get.
Starting point is 00:19:23 We've been over this. They're boring. They really are. They don't live up to their grandmother. They don't. Exceptionally far more interesting character. And when they try to assert themselves into like operations where people have guns and stuff like that, I'm always like, I feel like I'm in the middle of some kind of. What is there?
Starting point is 00:19:42 What are they rising to? Tell me, what is, have they been rejecting their, their destiny, their lineage, their place in the world of monarch? Yes. Have they been lost and I don't know where I belong? Yes. What is there, what is it that they are arcing into? Because I'll tell you, it's right now, it is an empty vessel to me. They're arcing from normal people to people who go on adventures. John.
Starting point is 00:20:22 A real arc, baby. John, please. Don't mock me. I would never. I'm asking a genuine question to the camera. Mock arc. And I'm expecting an answer any moment now. Okay, I'll be quiet.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Just in case. We don't want to miss it. You don't think I want a yacht? You don't think I want to yawn You can get the biggest yawn out at the very end of this You don't think I want to ya You don't think I've been sitting here Dozing off for the last 45 minutes
Starting point is 00:20:51 How DeCaprio would do it I want a fucking yawn For the past 40 minutes I've been here Trying to pay attention To this show About this brother-sister Asian dynamic And you don't think I want to yawn
Starting point is 00:21:08 I'm yawning in my head all through this conversation I slept a little wallberg there What's the likes you I want Leo in the show now I'm intense Yeah I'm doing the little the squinty Or I'm just the dumb dumb
Starting point is 00:21:24 Dumbuggering guy Or I'm just a dumbass Bumbling guy who gets overwhelmed Sometimes and I start to gale Yeah This is two best Leo types The range of Leo
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah, man. Southern leading man in control with power or stupid Southern guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gets used and taking advantage, Joe. Yeah, and then it all coalesces into Calvin Candy where he's both. He's both characters. Is he really a man of power there? Or is he also kind of a joke.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Both? Mm. Both? To your point. Yes, and. but no they're important they're arcing they're people i get this episode of 6.9 out of 10 sure 7
Starting point is 00:22:14 i'll give it i'll give an extra point one go to 7 yeah I felt bad for tim and michelle or whatever yeah i think it was nowhere near it's entered i think like you get more of the monster version no i think the last one's more monster verse still you get the tie in apex and how that came to be
Starting point is 00:22:33 and how monor it came from the shadows into the light yeah to how a podcast would one day be formed that should be the closing shot it's of brian tyrant when they're like hey bry and tyrantry henry's character name and then you're like and then it turns around and you see his face and he's like i want to start a podcast at apex let people know smashed to black yeah dude i love it i love and now we have the connective tissue between king of the monsters and godzilla versus kong uh i needed uh yeah i think um it's good it's good plot mechanics man this should have been a binge i'm just saying this should have been a binge i don't even love i don't even like to say that about stuff but this
Starting point is 00:23:22 does feel like it would probably be more satisfying it would a hundred percent be more satisfying as a binge and uh because yeah i mean like this kind of episode was uh is cool little tidbits of information really serious but i i did prefer the flavor of last episode a lot yeah i was like oh my god we're on the uppity up yeah we're cresting into the crescendo to end the season ending off of the bang i love just how they other than last episode i do this like one second tidbit of a monster every time yeah it takes Just put one in the very end. It often feels like Apple studio note or legendary being like, we got to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:04 We got to. There's some produce. That's the producer's contribution, whoever that producer was on set. It was like, um, you know, I think we need a monster in here to make audiences think this is a show about monsters. You know, maybe. I don't know. It might be a valuable asset to our monster show. It's not even about like the monsters within humanity.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Why is it called Legacy of Monsters? It's just about how Monarch... That would be a compelling debate. But the story of how Monarch came to be, if you really think about it, is so basic. It is a very basic story. Oh, we discovered some Titans.
Starting point is 00:24:47 We formed a little military group. Someone in the military at one point wasn't a big fan of it. Tried shutting it down. But no. We found some evidence. We found some evidence, and we kept the operation going. And they flirt with the idea that, like, oh, maybe they're monsters of humanity. Because, like, oh, this age bomb didn't work.
Starting point is 00:25:07 We're going to build an even bigger age bomb. That's kind of it. And they're like, look how Wolverine found his jacket. Yeah, dude. That's what a lot of it is. That's how I feel about it so much of what we learned. I don't like things where I don't know every circumstance of how they came to be, you know. I'm so back and forth in the show.
Starting point is 00:25:29 What do you mean? I mean, John, legacy of yons. Hey. As we've talked about it and I thought about this episode a little more. I was like, I think I liked it a little less than I think I did. Oh. Are you offended? I am.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Good. Because, yeah. I'm so sad. I'm really just so back and forth on this show. Yeah, because you can just constantly see all the potential. because they have so many good assets organized and the writing is it is so it is very by the numbers of how everything is even in the 50s story which I still find to be way more intriguing it's pretty basic when you think about it of how it all goes down it's just significantly better is like mind bending like I was talking on the podcast I did with heavy spoilers I was this point got brought up I was talking about
Starting point is 00:26:27 director's cuts and how sometimes a director's cut can be manipulative because a theatrical version can be so bad and a director's cut can be better
Starting point is 00:26:37 and it can naturally make your mind go oh this movie is now good only because it's better sure right like Rebel Moon will be like the Rebel Moon director's cut
Starting point is 00:26:51 yeah once both parts once both Parts that have been hacked down around. He said Zach, Zach Snyder said the director's cut feels totally different. And so I'm like, I don't understand why you released it. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:03 We don't need to dive into that, John. That's all the story for another day that I'm looking forward to having with Zach Snyder fans. Yes. Me too. The,
Starting point is 00:27:12 now I'm not, and I think the 50th story genuinely has some really great stuff in there. Yeah. I think that when you pull back and look at it, you're like, but there's not really anything.
Starting point is 00:27:24 that like i don't know it's it feels very by the numbers when you think about it yeah there's just not as much to it i keep coming back to the j j abram's mystery box thing and i know that there are good examples of him executing that but it does feel like that to me where it's like they create this air of mystery and they create these obstacles and stuff and she even says at one point in this episode like we're good we got questions we're good questions and i don't even feel like we have that many questions i feel like the show could have been like four episodes it does feel like that it feels like it's been stretched out i feel like we're watching you know when they would do like viral videos they would shoot like extended viral videos to expand on like they would do that for
Starting point is 00:28:08 they're a lot of like a prometheus and alien covenant yeah like there's a whole scene with james franco that exists for an alien covenant viral video that is not in the movie that's kind of what i feel like we're watching here just a super long version of that sure Or this could have been webisodes or something like that. Yeah, it feels like some, that's what I feel like we're watching, a very long version of that where occasionally an episode comes along. We're like, that was really like the last episode. I really did it for a man.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I really liked that last episode a lot. And this one just kind of brought me back to, yeah, it's fine. The last episode was fun in a different way and dramatic in a way that, less properly. Whereas an episode like this, I think, wants to have more of a somber tone because of you know, the struggles being presented and the truths being
Starting point is 00:29:04 revealed about like, oh, Kay, he's got this kid and she's a widow and blah, blah. And it only, in some of those flashback scenes, it gets close. But I feel like in an episode where they want to go more downtrodden and more burdened by all these things, they're not as good
Starting point is 00:29:19 at that. Like when they do go towards fun, it works better. Because also, partly, this should be fun to some extent. But it's not, I, it's not that I want this to be deep. But it doesn't feel like there's an appropriate amount of depth to what they're trying to do much of the time. No. And it doesn't have to, again, it can. It would be more intriguing if they were like 10 minute videos that left you desiring.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Ooh, they should make a series. Yeah. And then they make the series and you go, they should have just thought this as a viral video. Yeah. As webisodes. It's like I would like to at least walk out of these with that feeling of like, but damn,
Starting point is 00:30:05 I got, I got so many questions. Like that's, that's why we end up talking for so long because we keep trying to find the good because it's us. And you know, like, unless we're like doing them straight out of the theater,
Starting point is 00:30:15 movie review where we're like, we're on a time crunch here. We got to be blunt. We got to be blunt. We got to be blunt. We got to be blunt because we're getting kicked out here soon. with these we talk forever here because we spend the first like 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:30:26 trying to be like nice and then as we keep going we start realizing you know what maybe we didn't like it as much as we think we do yeah I just wish this show I'd better writing I don't know it's weird and with all the all the credits they have it's not weird it's a perfectly reasonable
Starting point is 00:30:40 ask John yeah well yeah and like for for what this is I don't think it's that you have people like Matt Fraction and Matt Shackman involved and I get Matt Shackman is more on the film side fraction more on the comic book side but like those are people who seem like perfect to help shepherd something like this along with whoever else they have assembled it's so fascinating to me that
Starting point is 00:31:03 yeah like it's just fun and intriguing enough to where like I do find stuff I enjoy about it each time you keep saying the word fun and I don't understand how you you say that word so often and I'm just not there with you I don't that adjective specific It's not that I think the show itself is very constantly say it's fun enough, it's fun. I'm like, I still have fun. I'm like, do you have fun? I have to like be like, keep paying attention because I am I'm not as invested as used. I would like to check my phone.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Sure. I'm bemused. I don't think the show is all that fun itself for what it is doing. That's just me being like. I'm happy to be here watching a Godzilla thing, even if it's not a great Godzilla thing. You know, like, it's fun enough. And by that, I mean, it's not aggravating at least most of the time.
Starting point is 00:32:06 No, it's a very passive show. It's fun in the sense that it's neat. I'm always like, oh, like, I'm always here for the setup. And I always feel like whether or not they'll deliver the punchline or the payoff, you know, is way hit or miss. But I'm always slightly bemused by what we're here to do. We're Walking Dead Got 2 in later seasons. I feel like we got here by episode like three. God, but I would so kill for like more random scenes.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Let's just pair these too off and make them talk for a minute. Let's pair these too often, make them talk for a minute. Like I'll take that because like, I don't know. Like this one of these episodes is interesting because this episode is more action oriented than some of the other ones. what do you mean action-oriented well you know you're on both timelines and people are moving around a lot and it's like oh i gotta you know we got to run across the world to Kazakhstan and we got to go to monarch and we got to go find shaw and then in the past it's like oh you know randa's got to run over here to kay's place and then they got talked from him and then shah's got to run over to the military guy and it's like we're doing a lot
Starting point is 00:33:10 we're doing a lot of stuff in an episode like this uh and i mean it did have at least one or two nice emotional beats, but I feel like you trade one for the other. You either trade for an episode where it's like, all right, we're going to have a bunch of dour, repetitive scenes of these two kids not agreeing about how to proceed on this adventure.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Or we're going to do one of these where, you know, we're doing a bunch and we're going all sorts of places and then the impact is maybe lesser because... All right. Look, man, it's late and I got to keep editing. We will never fully articulate. I got to go, John. I got to go. Listen. Guys, what do you
Starting point is 00:33:47 think about this episode, would you rather have Cantaro or Kate as your sister, brother? I don't think I forgot about that. Yeah, buddy. And listen, we'll talk with everyone really, really soon. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Bye. Last two episodes are going to be great. All right, John, pick a name. Hey, how about Mikhail Linden? My goodness, man. And you know what I imagine you got for Christmas this year? A special Jewish surprise from the Hanukkah bear. Now, I know you probably haven't heard about the Hanukkah bear.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You're ready. You've been following some of these shoutouts, you might know about the Hanukkah bear. So the Hanukkah Bear, you know, Santa goes through the chimney, Hanukkah Bear, he goes to your trash. Yes. You go, you know, like you might leave it out once a week for people. I don't know how it works in Sweden. and maybe you guys just, like, throw things out into the street and then it just magically disappears.
Starting point is 00:34:49 You know, why I imagine it disappears is that Hanukkah bear is going around town. It's eating up all the trash, man. And I hope the Hanukkah bear left you some great presents every night. Day one, because there's eight days in Hanukkah, left you a big turd. And day two left you. Like a hairball or something that coughed up.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yeah, then day three, a hundred dollar bill can you believe it and then day four big pile of piss and day five other little bears because Hanukkah bear is a male female and they didn't want to you know take care of any of these bears
Starting point is 00:35:26 so now they're yours another years to take care of but once I get to a certain age they will rebel and murder you so you better get rid of them fast true and then on day six gave you a James Bond collection because we got to throw them in there because you're Michael Linden and then day seven they gave you the new actors playing James
Starting point is 00:35:42 on shows up right at your doorstep congratulations you get to meet fin wolf hard the new james bond and then day eight this the new indiana jones reboot comes out just for you because he loves indiana jones as well and he was uh is that the day eight yeah the day eight of destiny i was better than i was going to give it's the day eight of destiny baby you're going to have so much cinema and and bodily fluids to deal with on christmas i was on roll was going up that hill man i was about to just make a climax about to mic drop this shit about to do the flags of our father's little
Starting point is 00:36:18 all four soldiers planning the American flag right there top of statuette it's about to do rocky climb to the top of the stairs fist pump in the air if i only could make a deal with god I'd get him to go back ten seconds that you could do all that yeah had a great great final one to give to mikhail
Starting point is 00:36:34 and now he's never going to know well how about day nine let's add a day nine it's not a hana bear works let's just say just willy-deally had a day to the Hanukkah Bair's schedule. Yeah, that's true. I know. I'm just bargaining.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I can't accept reality, Mikhail. Maybe you can. Hey, Michael, thanks for being here, buddy. We love it.

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