The Reel Rejects - MOVIE NEWS: Sam Raimi's DEMANDS To Make SPIDER-MAN 4 With Tobey Maguire!

Episode Date: May 1, 2022

With the multiverse expanding ever-wider, there are no shortage of rumors and interviews surrounding the possibility that Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, and company could return to the franchise with a 4th installment. On the subject, Director Sam Raimi has revealed the 4 questions that would need to be answered in order for him to movie ahead with the project -- we attempt to answer these questions and pitch our own takes on where a 4th Spider-Man story in the Tobey Maguire universe could go... which do you like better??? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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what is going on there reject nation Greg and John here today I'm looking forward to doing this video very much so so much so that I think we would all agree that it would behoove you to leave a like if you can guys Sam ramy with his Doctor Strange in the multiverse of madness movie coming out he is now talking about what he would want first before agreeing to go forward with a spider-man 4. Yes, years ago, he wanted to do Spider-Man 4, but ultimately left the project, and he said that it would be these same demands that he would want to make sure are fulfilled before agreeing to do it. And I think he would even talk recently about how would the multiverse being open. It has definitely opened up his own mind, being willing to go ahead and maybe give it another shot. I wanted to go through these four specific questions that he has. Will the story fulfill these four questions? So what I wanted to do to make this a little more We'll go through the four questions, one at a time.

Then I'll kind of give my little pitch of what I think would be good for Spider-Man for because I don't think he should be doing what he originally had planned, especially because of the fact that it's been many years and the fact that Tony McGuire were just in Spider-Man, No Way Home. But, you know, something akin to what he was probably hoping for down the road. Are you ready for this? I'm so ready for this. And then you guys can vote in the comments. Which one did you like more?

Now it is a competition. All right, guys. So the first question here is, does Toby McGuire want to do it? I'm going to say no. Absolutely not. That's an easy one. Does Toby McGuire want to do it? That's the first thing he presents. Toby McGuire himself has already stated the door's not closed and that there's more stories that could be told. I think Toby McGuire would, of course, be into it if Sam Ramey specifically wanted to return to direct it as well. So now let's go through the fun stuff.

Two, is there an emotional arc for him? I was thinking what could the arc for him be, especially post No Way Home. With Toby's version in No Way Home, he's obviously the older one, and in a lot of ways they play to that as him being a little bit more of the wiser one amongst the three of them. And I feel like that would have an effect on him when returning to his own home world, encountering the situations with Tom Holland and Zendaya, seeing what happened with Andrew Garfield. And they left the door a little bit open and mysterious as to what happened between him and Mary Jane on his world.

I think the emotional arc for him would be him contemplating whether or not he should hang up the suit. And maybe there is an opportunity for someone else to actually take up the mantle for being the hero, especially after going to another world where other heroes do exist. And seeing someone like Andrew Garfield who didn't get a chance to be with his loved one, that maybe he should be giving this all up. He's much older now and maybe he should reevaluate his situation here. This is going to be so many years. I don't know if we get another trilogy out of this,

but there's also get another chance to get Old Man Spider-Man. this one. So there's question three and four, and I'm going to just put them both in one category here. Is there a great conflict? And is there a great villain? Now, for me, I think that the villain, and he said that he wanted to do this, but the one that sprang to mind for me would be Craven the Hunter. And the reason why I think Craven the Hunter would be a great fit is because he could feed into his emotional conflict specifically. Craven the Hunter, depending on the interpretation, but the one that I grew up on, was one who was just a big fan of the sport, a big fan of hunting of the most dangerous game what would feed more into his conflict of if he should give up

the suit or not would be a man who comes to new york city specifically wreaking havoc in the city because he's after spider man a lot of the times these villains have their own motives they're doing their thing and the spider man interferes and like spider man is getting in the way of my plans but what if the plan of a villain showing up and causing chaos is because of spider man specific which would add more to is what I'm doing actually right to bring someone who's not even from New York all the way to New York just to try to kill me, you know, and it's getting others harmed in the way as well. That's what I mean. You have a physical conflict and then you have an internal conflict that he has to deal with. And the problem is choice by the end of the movie.

You know, can he find someone else to be a hero for the city? Because on his world, there's no other heroes that he knows of. Can he train someone? Can you duplicate the radioactive spider? Like, what can you do here? Would you introduce a Miles Morales, played by Finn Wolfheart? Oh, that's the way to go. Yes, sir.

Or Timothy Shalomey. Throw him in there, whitewash him. That's what we want. Oh, can you imagine what people would say online? Does that sound in? That sounds so good that I can only just add on top of it because I'm not going to have a better idea than you. So, yeah, that's my basic.

idea that I think he could do, like, you know, obviously we need an outline in the meat and bones and stuff. But, uh, yeah, that's what sprang to mind when I read those questions. See, that's a great take on, on what a Spider-Man for could be. I feel like you're on to something really good. But see, here's the thing I thought about, you know, we're getting it Craven the Hunter movie and Sony probably not going to want to dilute the waters by having two spider-centric craven movies trying to establish one, unless you cross Aaron Taylor Johnson over with Toby McGuire, but I feel like that might get a little bit distracting some my version. It's a multiverse, you know, but Sony, I think, really wants to get their side multiverse that will not probably hinge on Toby McGuire off the ground first. As much as I want to just be like, hey, multiverse, I got to have a different answer, so where's the fun in that? I think that in the pursuit, because, yeah, I want to see Toby's Peter, you know, in that more mature place, also appreciating the connections, the bonds that he have after witnessing what Tom Holland had to give up, what Andrew Garfield wasn't able to hold on to that he, Toby McGuire Spider-Man is, in that pursuit of finding a replacement, things go horribly awry and give birth to the Man Spider. And then Peter Parker is forced to look at a perverted version of himself, an inverted and traumatized version of himself. But within that, there is a road to the way forward and to reclamation because we can have a sensitive monster movie, which

Sam Ramey is also good at, showing that the Man Spider is just a victim of circumstance and classic Spider-Man theme, science gone-a-ride, but not the same kind of like, oh, a doctor-mentor kind of dynamic. It would be something fresh. And that way, you could really prioritize, you know, their relationship with Mary Jane, his family, what he wants to protect, but also having to write this last scientific debacle before moving on to eventually fighting Craven in the better movie that you wrote. Actually, I think in a lot of ways what you have is better. I mean, you incorporated the science, which is something that that movie lost side of. the franchise is true

I mean there's scientists involved but really Peter's interest in science feels the most plugged in in no way home you incorporated a bit of more of that Sam Ramey whimsy horror spider a man spider mine sounds more like a dark psychological spider and which I also want to see and then mine would be like Spider-Man meets

evil dead the fly body horror which is more of Sam you pitched an actual Sam Ramey Spider-Man movie and I pitched like a existential Which I guess Spider-Man 2 is This is a great thing to vote on though Because both movies would be excited Because one would force Sam Ramee to stretch his legs

To further places we're not as used to seeing Bring some of those English patient vibes In bringing it more to like Spider-Man 2 vibes Yeah, yeah And you know, mine is a little bit more like Hey hey let's just let Sam Ramee do his thing Yeah So what do you want you know

Well guys tell us down below That's a great pitch energy Thank you It was really calm in mine I think we're thinking about a great pitch energy to that You know, I've just been watching so many Ryan George videos Gotta get that energy.

All right, guys. Vote.