The Reel Rejects - MOVIE NEWS: SPIDER-MAN Freshman Year First Look Reaction (I'M CONFUSED) | SDCC 2022

Episode Date: July 23, 2022

THE MCU CANNON Just Became Very Questionable with our Marvel Comic-Con First Look Reveal at Spider-Man Freshman Year - the origin tale to Tom Holland Peter Parker giving us Daredevil, Norman Osborne, ...Doctor Octopus, Scorpion, Harry Osborne. As much as I'd like to talk about X-Men 97 and Marvel Zombies, this is main thing on my my mind. Well hope you can clarify. #Spiderman #Marvel #MCU #SDCC2022 #ComicCon2022 Support The Channel By Checking Out Our High-Quality Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is going on there, Citizens at the Reject Nation? Greg and John here today. We got to talk about some stuff right now. It's very important that we do. I know we're late to it. I was in the middle of working on a couple of things when the Marvel animation panel was going on. So I missed a lot of this information. I was a few hours late to finding out.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Specifically Spider-Man freshman year, because there's a lot of qualities about Spider-Man freshman year. that i am so jazzed about very excited i love a good spider-man animated series grew up on the 90s one love spectacular spider-man so seeing this and seeing some of the first images and like oh yeah this is gonna be then there's this other part of me that's just so equally puzzled by what they're doing that i found myself going down a wormhole of like wait i'm lost let me make sure that i remembered my information correctly and then i looked at the disney plus press release and it said spider-man freshman year is basically confirming that it's the prequel to captain america civil war or at least like
Starting point is 00:01:06 it's not prequel but take place before than showing his journey into becoming spider man tom holland's version right and that's when this raised a lot of questions in spider man freshman year when looking at these images there was a couple of things that i was excited to see explored because you know by the time you meet him in civil war he'd only been spider man i don't remember how long it had been my memory saying it was only like six months but it might have been longer than that it could be way wrong you feel fear to correct me but he hadn't been spider man for that long and so seeing like the early prototype images again and watching the journey i'm like oh it's nice to actually fill in this gap and really get the origin of it all and maybe there'll be an uncle ben maybe maybe but the way
Starting point is 00:01:44 they're writing this show i'm like it seems like you could throw an uncle ben in there even though spider man no way home kind of made it feel like there was never an uncle ben to begin with there will be a really emotional scene where uncle ben tells aunt may that with great power comes great responsibility that she can pass it on and then they revealed that daredevil's going to be in the show and i love the look of daredevil's new outfit it is super super sick and knowing charlie cox is returning to voice daredevil that was great it did raise an eyebrow for a second but i went then i went wait never mind this works because you know when you see matt murdock representing peter parker and spider man no way home daredevil could have met spider man but that doesn't mean
Starting point is 00:02:21 daredevil learned who spider man actually is so it doesn't mess with the mccu can't Then some other shit starts to really mess with MCU Canon, if not executed properly. Like, already I started, that's why I had to relook at, wait, what was the press release on this? Because this is so confusing. And then I was going online, I'm like, okay, I'm not alone. Other people are confused about this, too, because this is really weird. I mean, they reveal the look at the villains that are going to be featured in this show, which, of course, is exciting.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And I didn't even question it at first, because I saw Doc Ock and looking at Doc Ock, you know, It's the classic animated suit, you know, it looks so classic. Then I saw Scorpion. I'm like, oh, cool, Scorpion's going to be in the show, too. And then I went, hold the phones. Something's really off about this situation to me here. So did we just forget all these people in that Peter Parker before? Or was there some?
Starting point is 00:03:14 I mean, Dr. Strange is supposed to be in this dude? Did he, like, erase Peter's memory of all these people? Because, yeah, it just seems like there's such blatant lack of continuity with the thing they directly said they wanted to. show the backstory of here. Yeah, because if, as you recall, and Spider-Man No Way Home, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:30 they'd laugh at the thought or sight of Auto-Actavius. Scorpion doesn't, at least the way it registers in the movie Spider-Man Homecoming, it doesn't really become Scorpion until the end of that film where it seemed like they were setting us up
Starting point is 00:03:45 to get a Scorpion, but we ultimately didn't, right? But especially with Otto Octavius, you would think that Peter Parker and No Way Home would have some kind of reaction to, I know an Auto Octavia is here, and now I'm meeting a different version. Yeah, you're not the real one.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Maybe there's a way to write it off. Like, okay, maybe that just wasn't set or some shit. But then they revealed this. I don't know the order in which they revealed stuff. I'm telling you the order and how I found stuff out. That Norman Osborne is going to be in the series along with Harry Osborne. They look cool. I don't care that they're black.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Some people probably are going to throw a hissy fit. You're not mad. You're not mad. If you're not mad, you don't love Marvel the way you're supposed to love Marvel or something. characters have to be white or you're supposed to love marvel because you love diversity like i'm just like who cares that's great good awesome you know it's sometimes i just don't question things at first because i'm like i just norman osborne is a part of the peter parker journey yeah but then again going back to no way home norman osborne says when he lands here on earth 616 he doesn't
Starting point is 00:04:44 there's no oscorp here he also freaking corny to these photos and images that we have here peter parker looks like he's best friends with harry osborne yeah which of course is more canon to the actual story of Peter Parker. But does that line up with the Tom Holland MCU version that we've gotten? Peter has no reaction at all to seeing an alternate universe Norman Osborne. I could even give the show some type of leeway if there's not an Oscarp established, like if it's called something else, that way they don't have to worry about that continuity error. I still feel like there's a gap here that's kind of missing for me.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, I mean, you look at it from the outside and it begs you to do like a lot of contortions to imagine how this could make sense and not disrupt everything because you're like, okay, so did Doc Doc got get sent back and go, no, no, no, I got to go get Peter Parker again, but I'm going to go to the past at a different point. There's just so much convolution for something they promised it at first sounding very simple. And then they threw this in here, which made me start questioning a little bit more. again i don't know the order and how they unveiled things i'm saying and then they threw this in here but i don't know the order they have this look of spider man suits first thought oh sweet we're gonna
Starting point is 00:05:59 get alternate spider man suits and then you go back to the question of canon like wait a minute hold on a second when did you run through all these you have like the classic looking spider man suit in freshman year like when did you have the classic looking suit so is it gonna be some thing that crosses over from like it's gonna some of it's gonna take place before civil war and then some of it's going to take place after civil war that would make sense to me but what about all these other suits like where the hell did these come from this looks like a person who would have encounters with like the multiverse and other versions of spider man that's the only way i could see it when did all these get built or when did he try all these out because when you watch those MCU movies it seemed like it was whatever tony gave me yeah yeah this is the the mandated upgrade to your janky homemade suit and it came from a very specific place so so yeah it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like it's Like, how would you run through all this? Like, this must be the longest freshman year for, like, possible. The more you hear about it, the more it feels like it ought to be a standalone thing.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Because then it would make sense. And then it would be like, okay, maybe it'll touch the MCU, but it's not setting out to originate something that is so heavily kind of tied to the MCU specifically. You know, they are bringing back Charlie Cox, but Tom Holland is not voicing Peter Parker in this show. Was that a very intentional choice? Because they're going to have to explain some of the shit. Maybe. I don't know, like at this point
Starting point is 00:07:20 because of the multiverse, my mind again goes, they could explain this any number of ways. And the main concern that I have hearing all these things, and there's like going to be Dr. Strange, and there's going to be characters from runaways, and there's going to be all these things. And it just feels so kind of complicated. Yeah. Again, and it's
Starting point is 00:07:37 all coming back to that sticking point of this is going to be the origin story of Tom Holland's Peter Parker. And the more I hear about this, just the more it doesn't feel like it's got anything to do with that. Yeah, I'm excited for it. I'm excited for it. I'm just totally. I'm just totally puzzled by a lot of the choices when I think about Canada.
Starting point is 00:07:54 This is just some stand-alone thing. Not a single question. No. It's just that one aspect. Yeah. But that one aspect is making me question everything about what they're doing when MCU is so much about timeline and continuity. What does MCU mean now?
Starting point is 00:08:11 You know, are they saying that? Yeah, no, it's still MCU, but it's a different, it's a different Peter. Or are you talking? But I thought this was the Tom. I thought this was the Tom Holland Bureau. It's all the, well, they're going to have to call it the MCM now. They're going to have to call it the cinematic multiverse. The one continuity, the sacred timeline is breaking up.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And I feel like once you get past phase four and beyond, it's going to be harder and harder to explain that once upon a timeline that was unified. I don't know. Leave your thoughts down below, guys, subscribe, click that bell. See you for more Comic-Con goodies. Thank you.

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