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Starting point is 00:01:35 We did it. We hung out with the brothers. We got lay-laid. The brothers. There's other songs in here as well. It's crazy. The song that I really liked, I'm going to listen to this. I can't remember a single word from it.

Starting point is 00:01:50 Well, you know, I mean, it is a feat to have a song truly enter your ear and stick with you. upon first listen, but, uh, but yes, I mean, yeah, Keith, I feel like who is it, we got, uh, Keith David. It was, uh, Mufasa's father. Okay. All right. Cool. Hell yeah. No, uh, it was that song, the brother's song and it was the song between, uh, the Mufasa and Surabi, the duet, uh, that was quite, man. That was good. I don't really remember what the melody was. Yeah. But, uh, I remember their voices, uh, being very lovely together. Yeah. And the one where they were, uh, um, friend song yeah running like saying like together we can i forgot we'll be friends to the end something

Starting point is 00:02:35 but it's like where all them came together rafiki uh sarabi zazu yeah and that one right yeah and then um i thought that was talka slash scar was like pining for sarabi in the top right right yeah damn because i'm like i liked it it's funny because the only thing i knew about this movie going in is that one the brother song the brother people said the music wasn't memorable and as we're watching I was like, this movie, this music's good. I remember this. And like, literally seconds after, I'm like, I don't remember the songs. I'll be honest.

Starting point is 00:03:05 I mean, I liked it, though. I really enjoyed the music. It's not as iconic as the Elton John music, but like, you know, I feel like that's a very tall order. And it is a different era in terms of, like, how these songs are written and what they sound like. And certainly, like, I haven't seen Moana 2 when I heard some complaints that that was sorely lacking the Lynn

Starting point is 00:03:29 manuel touch and even though i mean lin manuel certainly is like well established enough that we can kind of uh take off the rose colored glasses a bit i do appreciate his uh just i don't know bouncy sense of rhythm and rhyme and things like that like it's in the immediate moment it's kind of fun to decipher at the very least so you felt it you felt the lineman moronda isms i felt some of the isms yeah like i wasn't uh uh they were not uh they were is prominent for me as they were in something like Little Mermaid, the new one. I haven't seen that one. There's a song in them.

Starting point is 00:04:07 Like, this is very blending in my own, Miranda Mouranda code. Okay. Okay. But, um, yeah, guys, we're listening on Apple or Spotify. Look at me. my laelie. There's more music happening. More music. We're talking over Blue Ivy Carter. That's why

Starting point is 00:04:35 they did that so that they could have Blue Ivy Carter in the movie. I'm not even kidding. I bet that's why. I bet that's part of why. I bet they had this wrap around because A, it's the Lion King and we paid all this money to have Beyonce and Donald Glover and all these other people so we better have

Starting point is 00:04:51 them appear somewhere and also remind you frequently of the first movie, but also also, also also we need a vehicle for a blue ivy carter and i feel like that's why the wrap around must have happened the way that it happened i would have liked going back to it yes yeah yes i feel like that was a very strategic studio note they were like i don't know man yeah they're like i don't know if people would care if there's no simba connection even though we all know that this movie's about his

Starting point is 00:05:26 father. Yeah, it felt like the movie was going like Timon Pumba. Remember, look at the shiny keys. Timon and Pumba. I mean, Seth Rogen and Billy Akinner are fun. Uh, but yeah, I, they literally were like inserting jokes with them. And I know that's a common complaint about, you know, recent entertainment, certainly the stuff that's under the Disney umbrella. But it was a little bit like, we got. a story going and then all of a sudden just these two dudes are interrupting which you know I mean is kind of funny to say in this context

Starting point is 00:06:04 but like you know that's that's part of why we are here specifically whereas they are sort of tacked on to this and yeah it felt like we gotta get Tomon and Poombo in here because people love Toma and Boomba I guess I might have liked that better if

Starting point is 00:06:20 it was like just Rafiki and Kiara the whole time so it could just be thoughtful or it could have been like I like Rafiki the most out of everybody in this movie like bar none 100% so like it would have been cool if it was just them or heck

Starting point is 00:06:36 you could even have Simba do it you can take the way I don't know I can imagine a lot of ways the wrap around could have been different not that it's like the point but it is like so prominent that you're like oh this isn't an odd way to do this yeah but anyway the rest of the movie yeah we took the movie overall

Starting point is 00:06:52 I thought it was okay I thought it was alright I mean I certainly enjoyed the time here I didn't you know I was kind of lukewarm on the

Starting point is 00:07:01 previous Lion King reboot adaptation live action animation version you know it was you know I fall into the camp

Starting point is 00:07:10 where I'm like impressive tech demo very cool looking environments it does seem to clash with the whole thing that we're here

Starting point is 00:07:20 to do by not having them be as expressive as a cartoon character could be So, like, this, I thought, did split some of that difference. Like, it's still very photoreal and stuff like that. And it definitely hit the ground running.

Starting point is 00:07:35 I feel like this was a fine origin story. It has some of those sort of Shakespearean qualities of, like, or even in some ways reminded me of, like, the Moses story, like a prince of Egypt type thing where, yeah, like this orphan is sent down the river. And then all of a sudden rises to this prominence through their own virtue and through their own just, you know, poise and, you know, their wisdom innately and whatnot. And I thought that was an interesting way to go with this, certainly, and the fact that you know that, like, Scar isn't going to be fully banished by the end.

Starting point is 00:08:13 He's going to be around, but there's also going to be... I thought they could have done more with the characters and maybe dial... Like, the whole movie's like a chase. It's like I joked at one point about like I want a Mad Max movie in this universe and that's kind of what this is but like minus the parts like when you slow down

Starting point is 00:08:34 for character stuff A half of that time gets taken away so that we can cut back to the wrap round but B yeah I just thought they could have done more with like Scar and Mufasa actually as brothers

Starting point is 00:08:49 because like once their bond is forged as as Cubs it feels like that's much of the characterization and then we have this like love triangle thing and it makes sense it's like nothing in here doesn't make sense but it's moving very quickly

Starting point is 00:09:07 and it's doing a lot of stuff and it is like sort of like a nonstop sort of ride in a lot of ways and it stops for beauty on occasion which I very much appreciated and for cutaways and send again for more cutaways to the wrap around yeah like I I might have enjoyed this...

Starting point is 00:09:25 I don't know. I don't know how I would stack it up to the first one. I'm kind of in the middle on both. There's a lot of impressive work. I don't want to slag that off. You know, like a lot of beautiful animation went into this.

Starting point is 00:09:36 But yeah, like it is kind of a loud, chaotic sort of, again, chase movie that doesn't not make sense for a Mufasa origin, but for the stature that Mufasa holds as a character. and I don't know Also I might have called this like

Starting point is 00:09:54 Mufasa and Scar or something Rather than just Mufasa. Mufasa Scar and Rafiki Yeah Because like the beats of like Oh how you know we're going to this distant land And you're going to be the king Like his being the king

Starting point is 00:10:07 Doesn't even feel as pronounced as it could It feels like the natural progression of the plot So it stands out But like they could have really Done more with the character stuff And like Barry Jenkins I haven't seen all of his movies, but I feel like Barry Jenkins is a director known for his dramatic work

Starting point is 00:10:28 and work with actors and stuff like that and character-related or more character-driven stories. So, I don't know, I'm a little torn. I'm a little torn. I enjoyed watching it, and it was a lot of beauty to look at and the music I at least had fun with in the moment, which is about all I ask, like if in the moment the music can really grip you,

Starting point is 00:10:49 and earworm into your ear and have you singing it on the way out than like A plus gold stars but if it's like nice enough and you know I'm at least engaged by it in the moment that's kind of the bar I set in terms of expectation

Starting point is 00:11:05 and so now it'll be up to like if I remember any of these over the next couple things but you know some fine voice performances and stuff but I want to hear what you guys had to say Andrew Hey Aaron What's your thing?

Starting point is 00:11:20 I thought it was fun and entertaining. Like John, I had a couple of complaints. I think some things happened rather quickly. I kind of mentioned during the reaction. I think that also, again, it's been a while since I watched the original. I think things happened rather quickly. I just think there was more nuance and felt a little bit deeper in that original. But having watched this, I will say, I do appreciate it as someone who complains that a lot of these Disney remakes are copy and paste.

Starting point is 00:11:42 I'm glad that we at least tried something different. Sure. I appreciate ambition in trying something new. So from that perspective, I did like it. I did actually, for the most part, I like the origin story for all of them, Rafiki. Now, like, when I watch the original at least, I have context to go back on with just how they all arrived at Pride Rock. So I, or Malayle, whatever you want to call it.

Starting point is 00:12:08 But I do like that. And I do like seeing, like, what happened in the rift in their relationship, seeing, you know, what got scar in this, in the turmoil. of their relationship and seeing why he became so nefarious and so and the hatred he feels towards Mufas and why he feels like he has taken his kingdom uh from him so and a lot of it begins with me i mean we talked about this a lot john with uh cobra kai mentorship is a very big thing and his father like just poisoned the well with his mind like the way he uh you know was talking to him about uh becoming a king and like uh deceitful acts and all that stuff like that is a

Starting point is 00:12:47 very big deal like the lessons we learn growing up uh or what we consume uh from media i mean that really can shape us uh as an adult so i mean that right there and then obviously like i thought it was really interesting too mufasa like was doing everything he could because he really does care for uh scar and he like he was uh he kept lying for him and saying uh you know he's trying to um you know provide a, you know, a pathway for him and for Scar and Sarabi, even though his heart was feeling towards Sarabi, but like, what a good brother. And obviously, you know, we know what happens there. But still, like, I found that fascinating. But, you know, to see, though, the ramifications of just like, again, the mentorship of poisoning the well and see what happens

Starting point is 00:13:37 with Scar. Like, you set that in place. But, and he was trying to fight that as long as possible. I found that fascinating, too. Like, I like, you know, a character like that who is trying to fight that dark ambition. So I found, yeah, I really did find that interesting with the character. So, you know, from that perspective, it was good. Some of the songs I really did enjoy, though I'm probably going to have to listen to them again. Not as memorable, obviously, again.

Starting point is 00:14:04 It's hard to compete with the original, so I'm not even going to play that game. But I did rather enjoy them like Aaron, and I'm sure you, John, the only one I knew was brother I didn't know anything I don't know any of the song I was surprised to come in here I have you guys like It was it was all over social media

Starting point is 00:14:22 So that's the only reason I had known that But I said the context of having five seconds I should go there Yeah one day It's okay you still got like 10,000 messages For me you'd never check so I That's what I look forward to every time Every few months when I hope it's

Starting point is 00:14:37 But also too I really liked Rafiki's origin story as well just seeing him as the outcast because he's got this very nuanced and spiritual side to him where all of them just look at him like you were the crazy one even though like he's healed and done things for others and like they still look at him as he's crazy and I'm like very fascinating but that's something like again that grounds the film in reality to like stuff we view in the real world like that that is something like that we would view in the real world is like someone who does stuff like that you're crazy you know what I mean so someone who really carves their own path out yeah

Starting point is 00:15:10 And I like his journey because he is so kind of, not above it all, but he's like steadfast to his conviction and what he feels and then the way it pulls him. But also he's not like overly mournful about being just out on his own on this great journey, you know, because he is so sort of locked into the spiritual in a way that I found very kind of engrossing. Yeah, but overall, I honestly, like I wouldn't say it's like top tier Disney. but I had a fun time. I thought it was entertaining. There were things I enjoyed in regards to the origin story. Some of the songs I really liked a lot.

Starting point is 00:15:49 I want to listen to them again for sure. Yeah, man. That Beyonce Childish Gambino duet was great. I do, again, I do like the context now that I have for whether you want to go back to the animated or the 2019, I believe, film. I do like the context of how they met, the rift in the relationship,

Starting point is 00:16:07 what led them to Pride Rock, and the relationship that formed as well with Rafiki and Mufasa and also with Sarabi and also too the context of Scar like I had no idea I don't know if it was like elated to in the original but I had no idea because now when you see the animosity he feels towards Sarabi

Starting point is 00:16:30 like he was extremely mean and vindictive towards her in that original that adds a little more context towards her you know like you should have been mine type of thing So, like, you know, I like that. And it makes sense that they would add that in here. I was going to say that earlier. I wonder if we're going to go love triangle in here or he's just going to go from the mentorship angle,

Starting point is 00:16:49 unlike the poison, you know, as I mentioned earlier, with poisoning the well, and that's how he's going to do it. I know you made that prediction about, you know, he's going to blame Mufasa for the death of his father and then also the lessons he's learned, which I would have said that makes total sense, too. But I was okay with this. I liked it.

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Starting point is 00:20:20 to be found in the movie i think that watching the journey of it was you know one that i it's not a story that i asked for but i don't regret watching it i think the music was really fun um i thought the voice talking was really good. I thought Aaron Pierre and Calvin, no, what's his first name? I thought both leads were very strong. It was very believable. Good chemistry. Yeah. And it's weird because you have these movies because this technically falls under the category of animated film, I imagine. Yeah. It's the weird as labeled series of live action, but completely animated. And like, what do you call it? Because they want it to, appear live action but it's it's it's an animated movie like you know it's a very interesting thing to debate yeah i mean it doesn't technically looks live action even it's weird it's it walks this middle line because it's not like uncanny valley not distracted by it but you're also aware of the fact that it's not real because they're talking but it comes across like some sweeping nature doc that occasionally has like a big

Starting point is 00:21:33 CGI set piece. Yeah for sure for sure that that's definitely a good way to describe it but I think overall it was it walked this weird line between wanting to be a family film wanting to be a kid's film and I feel like the kid film element came back when they kept doing the wraparounds

Starting point is 00:21:51 or the cutaways with Timon and Pumba but I felt the story itself was one that could have been more fleshed out and complicated because something more akin to like the betrayal of something like Gladiator but I think the way that it was executed

Starting point is 00:22:07 feels more cut and dry and more simplistic I think maybe that's the element of it that's trying to appeal to children because once he sees them you're immediately brothers no animosity just like are we're brothers we're thick as thieves we have a montage and we're growing up and now we're cool

Starting point is 00:22:22 and we're going through these experiences and all of a sudden we're going on this journey and then oh you see you took the girl that I want and there's like little room for nuance there but i do and also they acknowledge it like maybe two or three times and then when when they finally have their songs like oh just full uh full villain turn i wanted to be in like i wanted to be really endeared to their relationship before all the sarabi stuff happens so that when that happens you're like oh no i like them all what do we do

Starting point is 00:22:54 i yeah well i would have liked to have seen more of the the contrast the strengths and weaknesses between the two because I feel like just Mufus was better at everything from the beginning and I would have liked to have seen like okay talk is good at these things Mufus is good at these things and like their relationship balance each other out because they they find a way to work well

Starting point is 00:23:12 with each other but it didn't really seem like it had that balance I feel like there's a thing you can do with stories especially like these where it's like you have the dad who has his set ways and you know no strays from me my freaking son and like you could do something where it's like

Starting point is 00:23:28 taka's under that pressure and Mufaz is dealing with his tenuous place here and despite all of that shit happening up above their heads they have a bond you know and like you know they're up again they do

Starting point is 00:23:43 they do I think you just could have yeah lived in it a little bit more you know you could have lived in it more so that again we're like really bonded to the friendship the brotherhood before all the shit goes yeah I felt like the movie was telling to feel that more so than they organically created that yeah yeah i think that's also where i was

Starting point is 00:24:02 saying too like things happen rather quickly and i wanted to like feel it a lot more and like let it take its time a little more yeah that would also apply to the the main line antagonist's son because i was like he was talking about his son got killed i'm like i don't remember this happening did this happen i just think i saw him throw him into the tree it looked like he got stash i don't i don't did he actually kill him i was like there's should have been a moment at least i was like because action scenes happened. I'm just going to take his word for it because like there's a lot of shit going on. I'm not

Starting point is 00:24:34 doubting that it happened. I just don't remember it happening. Maybe I was looking at one. It wasn't a memorable moment because it happened so quickly. Yeah, I was like, I'm just going to take your word that that happened and I get why you're mad so we can just move on. But it does, yeah, it was not a very for I think

Starting point is 00:24:50 the collective viewing experience here. It was not a very pronounced moment. No, it wasn't a pronounced moment. But I would think the parts movie excels at and I imagine for at least from what I remember because I think this was like what five or so years ago we watched the original or the original remake I think the the way that they allow the lines to express themselves it's a lot stronger than the first one that the musical scenes walk this line between being endearing but not goofy because I know that with the original Lion

Starting point is 00:25:20 King the animated one from the 90s they find this way to have these animals move in ways that are beautiful and utilized color and utilize the the 2D animation medium to its advantage while by allowing them to be more expressive but they found ways to do that without it feeling cartoony which is a very impressive line

Starting point is 00:25:41 for them to walk and you can easily place this into a prequel you could it's weird right because I part of me is like I get why they had to have the draw of having the prequel sequel thing but part of me just wishes it was like a

Starting point is 00:25:57 full-on prequel like maybe you just have the beginning thing of like him telling the story we don't need the context or why he's telling their kid the story just go into it without interrupting and then go back to him at the end you could literally just have it be Simba telling this character this this story to Kiara

Starting point is 00:26:13 like you could have done that and I feel like they really did need to find a way to include Beyonce Blue Ivy all these other characters both they're trying to stretch the runtime of it with that yeah yeah That's a lot of money to spend

Starting point is 00:26:28 To have Beyonce in there for like She had paid millions of dollars to do So good for her to make that much money for What I would imagine is an hour of in the voice recording booth With drive time included The two lines of the literally two lines of dialogue She had Which is wild

Starting point is 00:26:49 It's good for you to have earned that That's awesome More in an hour than some people making a year for Blue Ivy's college education. More than I'm going to make in my life. Good for her. Yeah. Should we go over a few things here, gentlemen?

Starting point is 00:27:03 Sure, man. Let's get some facts in it. Well, before we get to the facts, as we always do with me, worldwide. I'm not going to have you guys do domestic international. Worldwide. $600 million. Okay, 600 mil. Ooh, whoever's the closest.

Starting point is 00:27:17 I'm going to say, this is worldwide. Worldwide. We'll go 500 mil. 687 million. Ha, ha. Good job. All right. Really quick. Rotten Tomatoes. Critics first. John, since you won.

Starting point is 00:27:31 53% critics. Okay. 53. 60. 57. Close. I think I was technically. Yeah, you were closer. All right. Audience, since you were closer, you get this one. We go 70.

Starting point is 00:27:49 81. 89. Wow. Okay. All right. Let's get some. Let's get some. Let's get some trivia. Hey, it's a me. James Earl Jones, who played Mufasa from 1994 to 2019, passed away at 93 on September 9th, 2020. This film is dedicated to his memory.

Starting point is 00:28:08 He was actually asked to return to play Mufasa, but he declined due to retiring from acting in 2022. However, before he died, Jones gave Disney permission to replicate his voice using AI. In addition to using archival audio with iconic characters, Darth Vader and Mufasa in mind while Mufasa the Lion King did not use AI they did use a brief bit of archival sound

Starting point is 00:28:30 towards the beginning of the film Oh so he'll just be the voice forever For all Vader and Mufasa things Yeah So but but if I'm understanding this correctly They have the ability But what we heard at the beginning was Just already a pre-recorded genuine

Starting point is 00:28:47 Was archival footage from the OJ? Yeah yeah yeah so that makes sense Well yeah and you guys did mentioned. We're like, was that James Roald No, definitely was. Definitely was. I was trying to remember, like, is that a direct pull from the original movie? Or yeah, did they do something there?

Starting point is 00:29:04 Braylin Rankin's young Mufasa first acted as Simba at age 7 in his elementary school play two years before he started working as a professional actor. It was meant to be. It's like poetry. It rhymes. Mads Mikkelson is also the voice

Starting point is 00:29:19 for Kiros in the Danish version. His older brother, Lars Mickleson is the voice for Scar and the Danish version of the Lion King from 2019. Keeping it in the family. Some of Michaelson. Yeah. Keith David was

Starting point is 00:29:33 previously in an episode of Timone and Pumba in 1995, a TV spinoff of the original 1994 traditionally animated film. He also, I do too. He also filled in for James Earl Jones as Mufasa in the Lion King Simba's Mighty Adventure in 2000

Starting point is 00:29:49 and House of Mouse 2001. House of Mouse. Interesting. In the film, Mufasa and Scar are shown to not be related by royal blood, despite prior films stating otherwise in the original Lion King in 1994, Scar was initially written to not have any blood relation to Mufasa before the writers ultimately decided to make the two characters brothers, as they felt it would make the plot more interesting. There is an interesting sort of gap there in terms of how the movie wraps up and then what the status quo becomes later, and you can kind of fill it in with your mind, but

Starting point is 00:30:27 there's an interesting note to end on, or he's like, I can't speak your name anymore in front all these people. Fine, but I'll say this other name. We are all one, except for you. Except for you. You know what you did. You betrower. Boo him. I forgive you, but I don't forgive you ever. You're scar now. After, after Keros defeat, Mufasa says he cannot bring himself to say Taka's name anymore after his betrayal. And this results in his brother being called Scar from then on. In the 1994 film, Scar, as King made a law against saying Mufasa's name. Okay.

Starting point is 00:31:01 It's a callback. That's why they had to do that. Yeah. All right. Let's do a couple of spoilers here. Spoilers. Spoilers. Spoilers.

Starting point is 00:31:10 Spoilers. All right. All right. Here we go. Here we go. Excuse me. Taka is the original name of Scar, Mufasa's younger brother, which was previously revealed in a book that serves as a backstory to the 1994. for original traditionally animated film.

Starting point is 00:31:24 Oh, okay, so we're going... Deep cut. Yeah, we're going into the Star Wars Legends canon. In the book, Taka got scratched by Boma, the water buffalo. In the Lion Guard series, Taka got bitten by a cobra in the eye, but in the sequel to the Lion King, 2019, Mufasa, the Lion King, Taka got scratched by a white lion outsider.

Starting point is 00:31:46 Okay, so many origins for the scar. Scar origin. This is the first time... It's multiple choice. He's like the Joker. Yeah, right? Why don't know how I got these scars? This is the first time any incarnation of the Lion King has shown Mufausen's scar,

Starting point is 00:32:00 going by his original named Taka as Cubs are much rather adolescent lions. Okay. I guess the last one. At the films end, the cub that Kiara calls her little brother is most likely Keon from Disney Jr.'s Lion King spin-off series at the Lion Guard. Fun, Lion Guard fans sound off. Yeah, all of them were so excited. Okay, guys.

Starting point is 00:32:26 Well, this has been a lot of fun. We will see you guys in the next one. And until next time, bye-bye. Bye-bye. What a choice that was. Tyler. Tyler, here's how this works, you son of a bitch. I'm going to guess what Tyler means.

Starting point is 00:32:46 And then John's going to guess what Tyler means. And then whoever is closest to the actual meaning wins the round. And I think Tyler means cult leader. Oh, good. Specifically a cult leader. Tyler, I'm going to guess a square strip of ceramic material. Okay. Or, yes.

Starting point is 00:33:11 Anyway, Tyler, name me here we go. My God. No. No. No. I didn't do this on purpose. The name, Tyler is an English name that means tile maker. it's already

Starting point is 00:33:22 I did not expect that that is not real that cannot be real you are good with your words way better than most of us and I feel like you just have a natural subconscious inclination

Starting point is 00:33:35 for what a word can mean much better than myself sometimes names are just like based on what your family occupation has been forever and I usually associate that with people's last name

Starting point is 00:33:46 but like apparently according to Google it originated in the Middle Ages as an occupational name for people who like tiles or bricks for construction and the name comes from old French words Toulor Tulele which means Tile or Tile maker

Starting point is 00:34:00 and then in English it became TY LER Well shit Dude this is messed up Roof worker Owner of a tavern though Doorkeeper at an inn Dude you would be so good at all those jobs Have your million screens behind the bar

Starting point is 00:34:13 All right Tyler well thanks for me and Cole here Thank you.

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