The Reel Rejects - NATIONAL TREASURE 2: BOOK OF SECRETS (2007) IS EVEN CRAZIER!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:01:29 Book of Secret Shadows Golly This was fun I liked that Much more than the first And first was fun But this next one That was a blast

Starting point is 00:01:42 Yeah they knew to get Yeah I mean I like The first one does a good amount To set things up But yeah this time they're like We're getting to the point The game is afoot Got a whole bunch of twists

Starting point is 00:01:53 And turns in American history all the family and all the artifacts iconic beats clues you already like the characters and you're just going to like them even more yeah well and two they've got like a nice you know group of things to build on from the first movie because you know now that dad's back like he's on board so you get to see him in more of his element i like you introduce mom introduced dad in the first one and then they get a different set of odds to be at but their chemistry was so much better yeah i don't grueger nick cage actually had chemistry yeah and they like faked you out because it's They were like, oh, shit, are they doing that mandatory recasting of the female? Oh, no, actually. She's got an elevator roll, and now she's a treasure hunter, too. And, like, I think there's an interesting thing happening where, like, part of my brain goes, I bet the challenge is greater almost in going to part three for, like, what are the personal dynamics going to be? And the stakes and, like, how do you tie in, you know, what other icons of history do you want to up?

Starting point is 00:02:49 Yeah. And I feel like they, like, did nicely here to build on just, like, Like the ensemble and, you know, the, again, family dynamics, and then, yeah, the legacy dynamics and all that stuff. It's like, yeah, it was well-conceived. I like the legacy element. Like, yeah. Like, you know, the legacy for Ed Harris. That's what he wanted to do.

Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah. I don't know. All that really worked for me. My family wasn't all, you know, we're not only mutineer assassins, yeah. Yeah, I had a great time. We've got a ton of, or do we have a... We got questions and stuff. I assume we got some patron questions.

Starting point is 00:03:25 If you're just joining us... There's no post credits treasure. Oh, that's true. Maybe that's when they announced three retroactively. Make sure there's no treasure in the credits. If you guys are just joining us somehow, we just watched National Treasure 2. I'd like to thank the fine folks at Prepper, which hopefully this was an easier one for them because it was PG. A little bit easier.

Starting point is 00:03:42 We are still fighting the corporate copyright gods. So we appreciate each and every patron that helps keep this channel afloat. Thanks, gang. Speaking of patrons, you guys, part of the patronage, you get to send in questions and help guide our review and situation. I'm curious what people have asked. I wonder if the overall populace likes the second one more than the first. Curious to see how the people responded to the National Treasure 2. It was a market improvement for me.

Starting point is 00:04:10 I get the first one like a C plus B minus, I think, and this one's like a nice B plus. Real solid time, real funsies. We buckled a lot of swashes. We certainly did. found a lot of clues and deciphered a lot of ciphers and codes. By golly, we did. And, uh, you know, we had fun along the way. We got a little crazy.

Starting point is 00:04:30 We got a little cagey. Cage, cage way harder this time. Yeah. And, and, you know, even, even that was like, they're clearly letting him have that kind of fun right now in a, you know, obvious way. But also it was like he did a good job of peppering it into the. character well enough that I was like, yeah, Benjamin Gates is a little more kooky this time. Appropriate cage.

Starting point is 00:04:56 We know him. He's more comfortable in front of us now. Now we know that'll accept this. It's pretty great. Exactly. Coitus. All right. And just making sure we got all the things.

Starting point is 00:05:06 All right. So this should incorporate everything, I think. And if it's not, then we're going to jump into the other shoot. No, no, it's just this one. Hey, hey. All right. We can start with All right. All right.

Starting point is 00:05:19 Starting with All right. Allie asks, thank you, Allie. National Treasure 3 has been rumored ever since Book of Secrets dropped in large part due that ending. Brookheimer and company have kept the rumors alive as recently. It was a few months ago. What do you think is on page 47? Now, obviously they open the door to like endless sequels and the end very much opens

Starting point is 00:05:42 the door to a sequel pretty directly. I think page 47 is area, no, because there's an area 51 page. Yeah, they already mentioned it. It feels like it's personal to, I think, okay, what I think it is, is George Washington is his favorite president. Yes. I think there's something to do with the founding of America because how do you up the stakes from the first two? You've got to make it to the core of what America is. We've done Lincoln.

Starting point is 00:06:09 You got to go back to Washington. Something about Washington. Maybe something with the chopping down to the tree. I don't know, but maybe it's, you need to find his stolen teeth. I don't know what it's going to be something involving like George Washington mystery I'm like maybe something

Starting point is 00:06:25 that's like you know it's like Thomas Edison or one of those guys But his favorite presidents Yeah I think it was a Washington It does seem to be something Yeah presidential something

Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah Washington base would be good Maybe it's his wooden teeth Yeah But weren't actually wooden But I think something with Washington Something with like the founding Because you got to keep getting bigger So the founding of America

Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah Yeah yeah That's what I think it is Allie And, yeah, I don't know what the rumor was as recently as a few months ago, but I know Nick Cage says he wants to do it. More and more when I hear about, like, the Hollywood drama and budget stuff,

Starting point is 00:06:58 it does seem to be, like, producer budget-based. As recently as a couple weeks ago, Channing Tatum was talking about 23 Jump Street, not going because producer Neil H. Moritz, he named him my name, is asking for too much money because there's a certain percentage you get each sequel. So by the third sequel, people are asking for, like, blah.

Starting point is 00:07:18 So it makes for me. The upfront cost a lot, which the overhead gets too high for profit. People aren't seeing movies as much in theaters, so when movies cost more, it's hard to rationalize. There's a lot of movie math, so I think that's what we can keep them with us. Absolutely. I feel like the page 47 mystery will involve John Quincy Adams' unfruitful expeditions to the center of the earth to find the mole people. I mean, that's the most John answer, but obviously the most obvious. He was on to something, and I think.

Starting point is 00:07:49 think that, you know, President Greenwood and our man Gates, our man, Benny Franks are going to, they're going to find that. It's inevitable. I mean, that's the problem is these movies, for as much as, you know, they're, the point is they're fun and silly and convoluted and all that other stuff.

Starting point is 00:08:07 You know, part of me feels like, you know, they make me want to brush up on my American history. Yeah. So that I have, you know, more of the full idea in mind so that I can have more fun with being like, oh, they're grabbing this and they're grabbing that. And I feel like if I had a better, comprehensive, you know, historical database of facts in my brain, I could be like, actually, I think it would be cool if they took this mysterious circumstance from, you know, the, yeah, the founding fathers, then this thing. But anyway, I think your theory is solid. Something to do with Washington.

Starting point is 00:08:40 Maybe he solves the JFK assassination. We don't know that it wasn't page 47 that he flipped through when we saw JFK. I know. That's a little too heavy for a PG-D Disney film. yeah damn i was like that that whole book that scene made me think of the way universe building happens now where i'm like if this was made today there would be a whole sequence where like this book close up on the book yeah it's like all the lore it's our we've seen three more pages lived it's prodigium in the dark universe

Starting point is 00:09:11 he would have taken the book with him yeah yeah yeah he's like oh there's so many maps and so many treasures to be uncovered for there'd be spinoffs like the show apparently they made no yes that people don't want us to even consider watching. That's okay with me. I would love to see a National Treasure 3. I really like that they left that cute little, you know, tease at the end. It's the exact kind of franchise that is designed to kind of always have like a, oh, oh, was this dangling thread?

Starting point is 00:09:35 What could happen next time? And like even if they never do it, it's part of the charm of one of these because then you feel like the characters are going to, you know, go do another adventure even if you can't see it. And that's kind of nice. But has Bruce Greenwood been president for 20 years? that what's on page 47 is it's the the addendum that allows a president to run infinite times that's what we'll do we'll do one of those jump 10 years ahead sequels where like what year was national treasure book of secrets it was okay so this was released in 2007 all right almost 20 years yeah dude okay I don't know if we're getting so Bruce Greenwood right he was president they couldn't figure out the treasure of whatever was on page 47 while he was still an office but now that he's out of us. And now both him and Benjamin Franklin Gates

Starting point is 00:10:21 are old and bitter and like kind of depressed like it's Indiana Jones 5. One last ride. But then they get a new clue and then they both have to kidnap the current sitting president. Of course.

Starting point is 00:10:32 And they got to help all of each other find the clues. The president's with him on the heist. Definitely. Okay. And they got to take the actual president. Ed Harris's son is president. And it's going to be a crossover

Starting point is 00:10:43 with the Olympus's Fallen franchise. Of course. We're going to get to our Butler in here. and Channing Tatum from White House down. Naturally. And maybe we can go, you know, do a Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and get some aliens. They hire Tom Holland as Nathan Drake. They do.

Starting point is 00:10:59 They get so much. They need a young whippersnapper. You know, they do. Who's good at, you know, he's like a pickpocket, right? Feels inevitable. I just remember that scene where they're at the cafe and he takes that girl's bracelet. And I'm like, I believe Tom Holland is a pickpocket for this moment. pocket guy, even though he's the smoothest,

Starting point is 00:11:18 most charmingest, most handsome actor doing a waiter job looking son of a bee. Yeah. You notice a Tom Holland. We love it. We love it. Next up, we got Michael Penton. Thank you, Michael Penton. If Ben Gates had to kidnap

Starting point is 00:11:33 the president at a different national monument to get him alone, which one would be the most difficult and also potentially the most cinematically pleasing. All right, let's go. National American National monuments let's go there's got to be some good ones man rejagnation when we launched this channel i thought learning how to film and edit will be hard till we launched a merch store total panic but a friend recommended shopify and shopify

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Starting point is 00:12:58 One more time. Shopify. Shopify.com slash rejects. Thank you again, Shopify, for helping us out of more ways than one. A list of the national monuments of the United States. Here we go. Oh, we got a lot of different grounds. and things.

Starting point is 00:13:18 A lot of nature here. A lot of nature. Let's scroll down. Maybe there's some stuff that's not nature. Yeah, Colorado in its entirety was just listed. Here's the Fort Manzus. Florissant fossil beds. There's got to be let's see. Yes,

Starting point is 00:13:33 yes, of course. Fort Ord, of course. Yes, Fort Union, yes. These are just going to list a lot of forts. Freedom. All right. Let's get to the artifacts. Where's an artifact or like a place that... Oregon Caves. I was going to say. Oregon pipe cactus.

Starting point is 00:13:48 They're just putting words together. This is not a very fruitful. Not helpful. These movies just remind me that I need to go back to, I need a digestive, historical podcast or, yeah. Top 17 places BuzzFeed thinks you should visit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:05 I mean, let's see. A fort would be cool if they had to do, it's not a national monument, but like Alcatraz or something like that. We haven't done Alcatraz. That's true. That would add some. the rock elements

Starting point is 00:14:16 which I appreciate it's got to be like more Liberty Bell type things yeah there's so many is the problem yeah this is really I feel like an idjit right now I feel like a dunce

Starting point is 00:14:30 I don't claim to know enough thing a lot of them are forts jewel cave national monument South Dakota sounds pretty cool the Goldbeaut National Monument in Nevada sounds pretty cool we've done the White House

Starting point is 00:14:46 we've done Paris's twice we've done the White House we've done the Statue of Liberty now we hung out at the the reflecting pool with the big obelisk

Starting point is 00:14:58 and Abraham Lincoln statue I mean if we had to do something with the statue itself we only hung out in front of the Abe Lincoln statue true true yeah that'd be kind of riddening you'd go back it'd be yeah but maybe

Starting point is 00:15:09 you could do some saw shit like I was talking about earlier and then you'd be like when we were standing out here during movie one, then there was actually this secret thing happening inside of Abraham Lincoln's torso the whole time. The whole time. There's a secret compartment in his chair,

Starting point is 00:15:24 and we can go in there. Seems obvious. And then we find the secrets of his top hat. Yeah. I think that would be a pretty sick week. About a volcano. Oh, yeah. Volcanoes.

Starting point is 00:15:35 Yellowstone? Yeah. Isn't there a volcano? I think we're always worried about the... Percolating under there. Yeah. Let's see. I'm not good.

Starting point is 00:15:43 at this. The Castillo de San Marcos National Monument just has a picture here that's really cool. How about a Hawaiian National Hawaiian? It's very short movie. Yes, this has been a very satisfying answer to your question. We're so sorry that we don't know American monuments. This has hindered the whole experience.

Starting point is 00:16:01 I mean, I am excited that there are so many great, like, you know, physical nature-based monument. I do like a nature, but I don't know how exciting that is. They all go to the woods. Tattoo somewhere. You know, yeah. They kind of did them.

Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah. Best national sculptures of the United States. All right. I mean, I would love an area 51. Let's see, the rocky statue. I mean, National Monument, the Rocky statue. Hell yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:31 I've seen a lot of these, actually. Because we've already done the Liberty Bell. We haven't done the Gateway Arch. We just did Mount Rushmore. Washington Monument. We've been to Christ of the Ozarks. There's like a big. Jesus. Oh, I've never, oh, I thought that was in like Santa, San, San, San, San, Sal Paolo or something.

Starting point is 00:16:46 Is Big Butter Jesus or a thing? Yeah, Big Butter Jesus. Oh, that's butter? It's not, I don't think it's actually butter. Oh, oh. It just looks yellow, I see. Like Butter is the King King statue, but, oh, yeah, a comedian Haywood Banks wrote and performed a novelty song called Big Butter Jesus. Okay, so that's what I'm choosing. I see that. It looks enough like butter. I bought it.

Starting point is 00:17:06 I want there to be a Big Butter Jesus National Treasure. I'm into that. That's what I. say to this and yeah. I'm going to say Griffith Park Observatory just because it's a National Monument they've got to rescue the

Starting point is 00:17:21 James Dean jacket. I guess if you did it on the top of the Washington monument. There you get like Spider-Man yeah. Spider-Man Homecoming. You just have to stand on the very tip. Boop. Yeah. Well, let's get the next question because I feel like I've failed you.

Starting point is 00:17:35 So sorry I failed you. Yeah. We got a couple more. Sorry, Michael. We'll do better with Willie. Willie the nerd. These films very much give me uncharted vibes. Apparently, me too. Talk about Tom Holland. If a National Treasure 3 was in the work,

Starting point is 00:17:48 which actor-actress would you want in this series that isn't currently in it? I mean, it would be redundant of Tomb Raider with Alicia Vicander, but the first person I thought was like, a Walton Goggins would be a perfect, like... I do love a Warren Guggins. Or an oliphant. Like, either of them would make a fun, like,

Starting point is 00:18:06 other guy, adventurer, adversary, dude. Okay, okay. Um, I think, uh, dad and mom need friends. So I'm bringing in Richard Jenkins. Oh, I like that. And I'm bringing in the lady who played Gladys in weapons. Okay. Um, and then just, everyone gets a friend.

Starting point is 00:18:27 So Justin Bartha needs a friend, Zach Cherry. Got it. Uh, and then Diane Kruger also needs a friend. Uh, and it's on a day armis. Sure. Um, and then Nick Cage, we're going to bring John Travolta. okay yeah we're gonna do a face off we need that reunion for all of us i respect that and uh and he's yeah this guy who you know is truly in it for the love of the game yeah he like he's got no

Starting point is 00:18:52 ulterior motive he like just purely wants to find the treasure so he's like a guy with no selfish motives despite his adversarial positioning against uh you know ben franklin gates i want um an irish uh villain for the next one because it is a country where like the irish had a lot of hard times in the beginning coming over here they weren't treated very well so there's someone trying to like find an irish national money that never got its time to bring the irish culture up to the level colin farrell dude here's what we do benjamin franklin gates stole a like sacred irish historical text yes and then he is while we're just a business as usual he's got it's just one of his many clues all of a sudden burst through a wall it's Colin farrell he's the benjamin franklin

Starting point is 00:19:39 of Ireland of Ireland yes and then at first it's like spy versus spider hunting each other but then they got a team up Barry Keogan is the son figure like Justin Martha that's right and they're on that side Liam Neeson is the big bad is the big bad is the Irish guy he's the Sean Bean of Ireland because his family came over yes from the north of Ireland yeah and that rivalry there you go he's from belfast and he they want Brexit in a different way we got we got Irish historical trauma plus somehow they were related to like Irish immigrants who were mistreated in America

Starting point is 00:20:16 His son became a cop in New York There you go. It was like a poll problem when like every cop's and criminals in New York back in the 20s. We're doing it. Guys, that's what I There it is. Writes itself. Oh my God. Call us Hollywood. Yeah, we write the good stuff. All right. Next stuff. Jay Rushden. Thank you Jay Rushden.

Starting point is 00:20:34 Question. Will there be a next movie about who stole the gyms from the Louvre or some other problem here? I think that would be fun. Apparently they caught two of the guys. What? They found DNA evidence from the jackets that they tossed aside after they took the cherry picker down

Starting point is 00:20:50 before they jumped on the motorcycles. That's what I'm hearing. But apparently those two people stayed in the country because they were able to track them for the week after the heist. I think they're just patsies. I still think it's an ocean-esque crime and those are just two people that are being framed as the criminals. I think it's a much bigger, bigger conspiracy.

Starting point is 00:21:09 is that all of them that's going to do it from jay rushton thank you very much we got uh let's let's read this one all right uh from michael oh no no no we got michael penton right no did we yes yeah we got everybody yeah we got everybody all right well what any straight thoughts about the motion picture uh it's rare a sequel is better than the first i think this one is absolutely an example of that for me which makes me want to new and even more can't believe it's 20 years old in two

Starting point is 00:21:39 years that is pretty crazy um 18 years ago holds up pretty well i really enjoyed it made it made it's money 460 box office 130 budget so uh let's let's bring some treasure on absolutely yeah i had a blast with this once again uh you know it's it's big and fun and swashbuckling and over the top and all that stuff but i really enjoy the on like in in a movie like this like yeah i'm sure it's not everyone's cup of tea and yeah it's silly and convoluted but it's also really fun i love historical fiction like this where it's yeah it's a little bit of Indiana Jones it's a little bit Da Vinci Code and I feel like

Starting point is 00:22:15 you know in time and place where we keep so many franchises going or need to adapt things that are already like an uncharted which is you know cool all those things are cool but I'm like yeah this is how you do it this is how you have like your Indiana Jones itch scratched but not having to constantly

Starting point is 00:22:31 hold it up to that legacy you get something here that's yeah it's very like I see why these movies were as popular as they were when they came out And, yeah, this continued to be punchy. It had that kind of epic scope and scale that the pirates, the early pirates, the first three at least have,

Starting point is 00:22:48 where you feel like, yeah, they really kind of threw down for this. They put the resources on screen. Yeah, there's a lot of CGI in the third act, but it's also cool set pieces around them. Yeah, and cool ideas. Like, that's the thing. It's like, if the creative idea is cool,

Starting point is 00:23:01 like in that third act, you are in a lot of, like, cavern things. So there are times when you're looking at sort of nebulous imagery, there's also a lot of really striking beautiful stuff with like this yeah ancient temple and the gold and how it's you know built in the yeah different wheels and things they got to turn and dams

Starting point is 00:23:19 and oh this will only stay open yeah we yeah well the room's flooding and blah blah blah blah like very fun game and uh yeah I would absolutely have a blast with part three if they were to ever make one loved Bruce Greenwood here too like telling meir like the family

Starting point is 00:23:37 I got three of the clues I felt very good about my knowledge of American history. You're a gaits. I'm a gates, I got three. You're secretly a gates, all right? Which made me feel good. Thanks, movies for making me feel good. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:48 Well, that is gonna do it for National Treasure 2. If they make a third one, John and I'll watch it. We'll be there. And until then, we'll see you soon, Reject Nation. Thanks for watching. Peace and bye.

The Reel Rejects - NATIONAL TREASURE 2: BOOK OF SECRETS (2007) IS EVEN CRAZIER!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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