The Reel Rejects - NOBODY 2 (2025) RETURNS WITH BONE CRUNCHING ACTION!! MOVIE REVIEW!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:47 podcast platform of your choosing if you could leave us a rating that would be mucho helpful before we hop in to our lovely patron Q&A guiding the review here let's collect a couple of basic thoughts g how'd you feel uh it was a fun movie it was fun i i definitely like the first half significantly more than the last half like there's the merit in the second half for sure um but the first half i thought had like some really great set up i didn't really care if the beats were similar um it like it seemed like a solid

Starting point is 00:02:24 continuation of where we left off getting more heart a little bit more personal and more intimate with the family bob oenkirk the i like the idea of how he was like you know he's he should be really in his own element now but now he's doing what he actually wants to do he's now missing out on the thing he's doing it for which is his family and all those setups i thought were great the comedy and the action was solid throughout um but yeah i think the last half of the movie particularly was Sharon when Sharon Stone i feel like they didn't need Sharon Stone's character I think they could have just kind of kept um whoever the dad is a villain and then you know like just keep it the small town if they just kind of kept it focused on that yeah and then

Starting point is 00:03:18 you magnify it and Colin Hanks Yeah I think it would have been Stronger and then it starts feeling like a different movie And it started feeling weirdly rushed And like we were just going through requisite repeats So suddenly stakes weren't felt Emotional beats weren't really being felt to me And I think that's what makes the nobody movie strong

Starting point is 00:03:41 Is like the surprising amount of connection in heart um while having like awesome impactful action you know and whereas i i think the the last half kind of drops the ball a little bit in that department like sure action's cool but then the action doesn't weigh as much when i'm suddenly not finding the movie as engaging itself on the story and everything but it's not to say that the last half doesn't have like moments um and i'd still be down for like numeral stress but yeah there's just there's just my general. I think nobody one's definitely a stronger film. But I was actually

Starting point is 00:04:18 like expecting myself to say this is stronger but then we got to the Sharon Stone character which I feel like she was taking the direction she was given and doing the writing she was given. I wouldn't blame it on her I think it's more on the just the idea that where they felt

Starting point is 00:04:34 like they needed a bigger villain to justify going through the water park stuff and I'm like I don't know I thought it was better when it was just like the Rambo plot. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. guy stuff because everything I thought was being justified well so yeah that's it a little bit of a mixed bag for me but overall I'd still recommend it that's fair our run how do you feel I thought it was really fun I really enjoyed the ways in which it was comparing or what's mirroring the first movie

Starting point is 00:05:02 in the sense that the first movie was about him coming into himself and then the second movie started off about being him I guess more embracing his family and kind of being, trying to be more present for them and which is why they wanted vacation in the first place. And all the action was really, really good. You know, I think it was a lot stronger than the first one, even though the first one's already great in the itself. These plots are fairly simple.

Starting point is 00:05:27 I just wish the second half had, I don't know, maybe more consistency as far as how it was put together. Because I felt like the stuff with the Rizzo was cool, but it felt kind of like a side beat. They're like, oh, he wasn't in the last one, so we've got to have him in this one. And kind of the same thing with Christopher Lloyd's character. I'd say I don't enjoy their presence,

Starting point is 00:05:52 but I just didn't feel them wholly necessary in this one. But yeah, kind of similar sentiments I feel with the Greg had about Sharon Stone. I just didn't find a very menacing, very threatening. But, you know, all the action stuff was cool, and I felt like they found a fun sort of set piece for the finale. But ultimately, I can say I generally had a good time. I would also recommend it to people who were just fun of fans of good action. But yeah, I think the first one is better.

Starting point is 00:06:23 But still a fun time. I felt kind of strange that they started off the plot with him having a bunch of debt and then you just don't address it again. At the end, I guess we're going to address that in the third one? I felt like they sliced together two different. it felt like it became a different and more generic movie in the last half and then they just like especially with risa and then throwing in like risa and stuff in there was like yeah i think the movie's like missing the themes suddenly of like there's no catharsis at the end or no i didn't

Starting point is 00:06:55 even feel like the resolution of the family that that feeling that the movie is supposed to give you like oh we had our trip we had maybe it wasn't the adventure we expected but in some weird way we came together you know and it doesn't even have that payoff even though the movie's telling me they do so yeah i would agree with both of you guys it's that thing where in the first half you're like oh this is really fun this is moving uh at a pace that is snappy but it's not overlooking the character beats it's doing things to endear you and charm you and to you know create that sort of sense of irony with the walk of life that he's currently in and then once you get to the the second half. It's just like, there's no more time

Starting point is 00:07:38 for character stuff. We just have to move through all these action set pieces and we have to, you know, add a new villain and it really feels like this is a tight 90. This feels like a movie that could have been an hour and 45 minutes and then we could have gotten back some of the family journey in the second half of the movie

Starting point is 00:07:54 because once the violence starts, there's kind of nothing else for them to do, there's nothing else for them to learn and you have them hold up in the lodge and the sun's looking after their sister and you're like, okay, maybe this will be some opportunity for him to rise to an occasion. but not really and Riz is there he's cool but it's only for like one set piece that takes care of a problem that was supposed to bring peril to the plot you know it's nice to see Christopher Lloyd and with Sharon Stone I feel like they just didn't do her any favors by not including any character meat on that bone and just simply showing only moments where she's like hamming it up and like being crazy and yeah it just feels like all of a sudden there's this other movie happening and I feel like feel like, you're right, you could have done, you could have still maintained a lot of the dynamics had the dad ultimately become sympathetic, have him up against this, you know, number two of his, in Colin Hanks, who's clearly itching to, you know, gain greater respect and status. It's just, it's one of those, yeah, it's, it's, I would love to see what the script looked like, because like, the first half is so strong that I was like, yeah, I could see this surpassing the first easily and being like really charming and even more, you know, rich in the family stuff.

Starting point is 00:09:06 And it's just sad to watch them kind of stop doing that after a while. Yeah, there's like so much in the first half that they set up that doesn't feel like it's rewarded. He said we're going to talk about this later to his son. And we don't. We don't. They set up the son and father, like there's like this father's son dynamic thing they had going on. And, you know, sometimes I would be here being like, I get it. People just want the action and that's all that matters.

Starting point is 00:09:33 But no, I think that's why nobody won. struck a chord with people. It was more than the action. The people connected with it for, and that's the secret sauce. And this movie was like making it more nutritious. And then suddenly it was like, now we got just a plain burger.

Starting point is 00:09:53 And really slick looking action can fall flatter when the stuff around it. I know you said you preferred the action in this movie. I think as an action movie experience, the first movie's action feels strong. longer in my mind because it's way more consistently bolstered by stakes and emotions. Yeah. Once you get to the carnival, it should be the, you know, big crescendo, you know,

Starting point is 00:10:16 centerpiece of everything. It's kind of like you're just sort of waiting for them to tick these boxes off. Yep. It's like it's cool, but it's, yeah, it doesn't really weigh anything. And it's a sad kind of waste of a really cool environment to do these things in. But it's still very fun. A second note, I went to the Nobody to Influencer event, and I'm heavily criticizing. the movie. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:10:38 You're not a shell. It's possible. You're not a shell. Ah, well, we had a character arc. You can still, you can still do that. That's crazy. Hey, you still contributed to the box office ticket sales. Your job is completed.

Starting point is 00:10:54 It's a lot of them. We still bought the movie. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, you're off the hook now. You paid them. Also, one last thing, we can get into the other thing. I didn't feel like the resolution for them not being able to see eye to I or be there for each other in the beginning where he was working too much was resolved in a way that was satisfying by the end

Starting point is 00:11:15 where they're kissing in the pool and she's like I was like what that when you go back off a vacation you're still going to have the same problem this doesn't change anything yeah so I don't know nope right there with you and also you know where'd you learn to shoot how'd your kid choke that guy out like you guys are clearly taking notes I can head can but it would have been nice to have some kind of like cheeky ah the family that slays together kind of thing but anyway let's throw it over to you guys appreciate y'all for chiming in with your questions each and every week day vidya etc like we said at the top if you join up over the patreon you get a little peek at our shooting schedule and you get to guide these reviews and without further ad do

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Starting point is 00:13:27 comes a little too much like your older sibling had an assignment years ago and now you have the same assignment but you decided to copy their work beat for beat. Aaron will start with you? Do you agree with that assessment?

Starting point is 00:13:39 I don't think it's the copying the structure that is the issue. I think it's the fact that you don't utilize the elevation of heart that the first act of the movie establishes because it rationalizes

Starting point is 00:13:50 the fact that this is going to be a parallel experience to the first movie. But with the problem now being that in the first movie, he's walking through life and kind of not paying attention to his family. And this one, he's not paying attention to his family because he's working too much. And I felt like if they were found

Starting point is 00:14:07 a way to create a care of that heart and those themes in the end of the movie, even though it's structurally similar, it would have been a strong companion piece to the first one. But because it lacks some of that heart and some of that intentionality in the second half, it doesn't

Starting point is 00:14:23 feel fulfilling, which makes it feel like a kind of copy and paste without as much meat to it. Gee. Yeah, I agree with Aaron. I thought the mirroring was like purposeful, and then it does just become, now let's just hit the beats. So, yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:41 It's weird. I wouldn't necessarily say that it's like, I was sorry, Dick. I don't need to repeat anything. Anyone else said? I'm done. I'm just making sure. Yeah, it's interesting. I didn't feel like, I thought the beats that they repeated made sense because they're tropes of this particular franchise they're trying to build. And I think the only beats of the original that held this down were more just tropes of the genre in general.

Starting point is 00:15:10 It felt like halfway through someone went, wait, shit, we need some big eccentric, high-powered crime lord in here because that's these movies and these are like the same creative team or a lot of the similar creative team as John Wick. and that movie has that and I could kind of feel that those tropes weighing on this when they already had such a good setup. This reminded me of, oddly enough, very different movie. This reminded me of watching

Starting point is 00:15:33 the karate kid legends. Like the first half, you're like, this is great. And then the second half, you're like, this is moving so fast and it's forgetting about all the character beats. And we now have this villain who I don't really care about,

Starting point is 00:15:46 but I guess we have to have a villain and we have to have a big violent showdown. So, yeah, I don't think this was suffering. from recycling the first movie. I think it was just suffering from not trusting itself as much as it felt like it needed to play the tropes. Resonance Zed. Loved the movie, but I feel like there was too much family drama,

Starting point is 00:16:09 especially between Hutch and Becca. Wow. Shouldn't they all be on the same page by now? Speaking of, how do you feel about the new antagonists? Mainly the antagonist played by Colin Hanks and Sharon Stone. Gee, throw it to you first. I don't agree with this at all. I think that's what it would be kind of boring if there was no drama

Starting point is 00:16:28 I think that was making it interesting was the drama between them of you think you get what you think you're getting your happily ever after and then that's kind of how life is you know and you're going he's committed to his work he's committed to his life but then now would the thing that should be the solution like there's always going to be problems that interfere I don't think like it would be 100% more on the same page by now. Now, I think they could have used more of it. And then I thought the resolution of

Starting point is 00:16:59 it was weird because they didn't do a great job. I mean, I imagine if the second half was stronger, I wonder if you would feel this way, residency. Antagonist, we've expressed her Sharon Stone sentiments. I don't mind calling Hank's. I think there was something a little bit interesting. They could have mined from him, you know. He had that like classic sheriff in my small town vibe but i like the idea that he was like an insecure person who really wanted respect and you know you know these guys will lose and i like seeing colin hanks actually play a character that's different than the nice guy you know yeah i enjoy i enjoy push over i enjoy calling hanks um i i don't mind there's a lot of like shunning nepo actor babies going around these days i would definitely

Starting point is 00:17:49 to call on Hanks in that category. He's forced them to cast him in this movie and every other movie. He's a good actor there. I don't mind him. I thought it was good. Aaron, how you feel? You agree with the resonance? I also do have to disagree.

Starting point is 00:18:05 I thought the first movie was about, you know, returning to a self or returning to addiction or a dormant part of his self. And this one was about the story, at the beginning, it wanted to be about what happens when that addiction, that revival of self, comes in conflict with your family and, you know, the return to family, but then I kind of forgot about that in the second half.

Starting point is 00:18:28 So, I don't know. Had it played through those things, it would have been stronger, in my opinion. But as far as the villains go, I thought Colin Hanks was cool. He was all right. It seemed like he had some personal grudge against Bob Odenkirk's character of Hutch, but there was really nothing there. and I'd make no damn sense why he survived that blast. I was like, he was literally in there. He was all the way in there like swimwear.

Starting point is 00:18:54 And Sharon Stone, I felt like that she could have had one scene with Hutch, and maybe that would have made things a little bit better, but because they didn't meet into the water park. It was like, oh, okay, it's just a guy he has no personal connection with. But she was like, she was hamming it up, and not all of her line delivery's word for me. But, you know, it was serviceable. It was fun enough.

Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, I feel like they, what I'm going to, tread into treacherous territory and say what i would have done or liked to have seen was would have been them basically taking the second half to get the family on the same page becca knows or has some understanding of who clint is um not clint hutch mansell clint mansell uh beck has an understanding of who this guy is the kids maybe not so much and i feel like you could have used the second half to instead of putting them all away from the big firefight and have Becca show up at random to save the day partway through and to cap Sharon Stone.

Starting point is 00:19:51 Cool moment, sort of, but I felt like if you really caught them up in the dangers of this and acknowledged that, but also then showed the fierce, you know, love and protection that Bob Odenkirk is, you know, putting on display for his family and, you know, obviously to survive, I thought they could have really tied this together in a nice bow and had all the fun and, you know, continued on with, the added, you know, emphasis on the familial perspective and whatnot.

Starting point is 00:20:21 And, yeah, I think Sharon Stone, again, fun to watch. I would have saved her for, like, the very end, have a mystery around all the McGuffins and the chemicals and the weapons. Who is all this for? There's something bigger going on, but really what we're dealing with is Colin Hanks, you know, trying to usurp this guy who clearly doesn't want to be in charge of this criminal organization, doesn't want this for his kid. Colin Hanks clearly is about this life. take that character one level further in terms of, I don't know,

Starting point is 00:20:48 have something in those mid of the movie exchanges between him and Hutch lead to him taking a even more villainous turn going off the deep end. I like the subversion of him talking tough and giving the speech and then them basically rolling up and just taking them out. But yeah, I just thought that they could have used

Starting point is 00:21:06 all these pieces in the second half a lot better and again brought them to the same page in a really satisfying and kind of lucid way throughout, and I feel like they missed that opportunity. Kev B. Thank you for chiming in. Question first, and then we'll nod to... How about this?

Starting point is 00:21:24 We'll do the trivia, and then we'll jump into your question. Trivia. Bob Odenkirk trained harder after the first nobody movie, coming back in even better shape for nobody, too. Shows. He continued working... Is it what? Oh, it shows.

Starting point is 00:21:39 He continued working closely with stunt trainer. Daniel Bernhardt, who playfully doubles as multiple characters, all of whom keep dying and returning in their action movie universe. Sharon Stone joined the cast after Odenkirk passed her a note at an award show inviting her to play, quote, a James Bond type batty. That is a fun bit of behind-the-scenes intel, although it does feel like that is about as much thought as went into having her in the movie. To your question, though, Kev B, did you find yourself rooting for Hutch?

Starting point is 00:22:10 Even more of this time around? I love both of these movies, by the way. Aaron, did you? I was rooting for him, and I thought, you know, his, the scene where he goes back and beats up the people at the arcade just way overboard was probably the most interesting he became in the movie. Because I feel like that's when you're like,

Starting point is 00:22:33 okay, his violence and his tendencies have a problem and can affect the way his family operates. And they're literally, literally all in jail because of that. So I still found myself a rooting for him, but I wish that that darkness would have become more part of the plot. But

Starting point is 00:22:51 Bob Ardenkirk is still very likable in the role, and yeah, I think that he was great. Gee? I wouldn't say I rooted more for him. I was definitely rooting for him, and I feel like I could probably relate

Starting point is 00:23:07 more with this version of him, of where I'm at in my life, than I would in the prior version of the movie which is still very relatable but in terms of a character I wouldn't say I rooted more for him like really felt like he had this shit handled

Starting point is 00:23:22 like it was not especially when the last half has like zero stakes I'm not really rooting for him I'm kind of just going all right let's watch stuff yeah I'm rooting I'm actively rooting for him for about as long as the emotional stakes are tangible and then after

Starting point is 00:23:40 while. I'm just kind of watching him and hoping he doesn't die, because I bet he probably won't. Yeah. Jay Rushden, last question of the day. Okay. Should there be a sequel for this film here? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:56 Aaron? Sequel? I'd say yeah. This time, when you pull out at the end, it's not just him and his wife and the dog, but it's the whole family, because all the family's involved, and it's all six of them. Grandpa and Riza and the two kids and the dog and the cat well they all did it they're all horse and a bird yeah but yeah i'm not for seagull yeah there's like

Starting point is 00:24:17 so many loose threads that yeah i feel like they could i hope this movie's doing well on video on demand because i know it didn't do well at the box office um so i'm hoping the vod experience or streaming or something gives it some second life because i totally think they could get a third one and if they did a third one i think they could make it way stronger i i prefer it to get a third one so that way it could deliberate like the potential the first half showed you could do a sequel and then I think they sacrificed

Starting point is 00:24:48 a lot to hit a runtime and I think they could they could definitely learn the lesson because I imagine what we're saying there's got to be a lot of people who feel the same way we show there has to be I like I would be curious check out the Ron and Tomato score critics and

Starting point is 00:25:04 audience wise compared to yeah well Andrew's pulling that up John sequel yeah No, definitely not. I think they should have stopped at one, J.K. Of course. I mean, yeah, Bob Odenkirk

Starting point is 00:25:16 is just such a joy to watch. I mean, this is a nice ensemble, and I like the, you know, when this came out, everyone was like, oh, this is just going to be another John Wick? And yeah, like, there are similarities,

Starting point is 00:25:26 but it's also got its own personality. And I would be thrilled to watch Bob Oden Kirk do these movies for as long as he's willing to throw down on him. Because they're more comedy. Yeah, more comedic. Yeah, absolutely.

Starting point is 00:25:36 And there's like a quirk. It's perfect for him because you can bring the quirk of his comedic chops, but also the physical prowess that he has worked so hard to show on screen. Especially after I know, I think it was after the first one, at some point he had like a heart issue. Yeah, this movie saved. Working on

Starting point is 00:25:52 this movie saved. I'm a huge Bob Odenkirk, man. Yeah, this is working on, nobody once saved his life. Yeah. It's amazing. It's got him in like great health and stuff. Yeah. He almost had a heart attack on the set of Better Call Saul. Oh, snap. I feel like, yeah, just for the longevity of Bob Odinkirk, we should have one of the... For the longevity of Jesse Eisenberg, we need a now you see. me every couple years. And for the longevity of Bob Odenkirk, we need a nobody every couple

Starting point is 00:26:14 years. That's what I say. Definitely down. All right, tomato meter before we head out of here. So I'll get the score for both of them. Maybe I'll just tell you guys the first one. Yeah, I just tell us. All right. So the first one, critics, it was 84. And then 94 for audiences. That's hugely high. And for the second one. Just tells. All right. 78 for critics. Not bad. And 89 for audiences. So it's not that big of a dip. That's actually a little higher critically. That's way higher than I thought of you.

Starting point is 00:26:43 I thought it was going to be like a 60 or something. Yeah, that's way higher than I thought of you. Wow. Yeah. Well, all right. Maybe the three of us are the weird ones. We're the nitpurs. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:55 Well, gang, do you agree with the critics? Are we wrong? Do we need less family drama in these movies? Leave us your thoughts down below. Thank you for joining us if you joined us. And we'll catch you for some more bone crunch and action on the next. one. Be well, people.

The Reel Rejects - NOBODY 2 (2025) RETURNS WITH BONE CRUNCHING ACTION!! MOVIE REVIEW!!!

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