The Reel Rejects - NOSFERATU (2024) IS A NIGHTMARE!! MOVIE REVIEW!! First Time Watching!

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

I AM AN APPETITE, NOTHING MORE!! Nosferatu Full Reaction Watch Along: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thereelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/thereelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Horror Thursday is here once again as Roxy Striar & John Humphrey RETURN for the premiere Vampire flick of 2024 as they give their FIRST TIME Reaction, Commentary, Analysis, Breakdown, & Full Movie Spoiler Review for the retelling of the classic 1922 Silent Film of the same name... Written & Directed by Robert Eggers (The Witch, The Lighthouse, The Northman), this updated take on the classic Dracula-inspired film weaves a gothic tale of obsession between a haunted young woman and the terrifying vampire infatuated with her, causing untold horror in its wake. Nosferatu stars Lily-Rose Depp (Tusk, The Idol), Bill Skarsgård (It, Barbarian, John Wick: Chapter 4), Nicholas Hoult (X-Men: Days of Future Past, Mad Max: Fury Road), Willem Dafoe (Spider-Man, The Florida Project), Aaron Taylor-Johnson (Kick-Ass, Tenet), Emma Corrin (Deadpool & Wolverine), Ralph Ineson (The Green Knight, Game of Thrones), Simon McBurney (The Conjuring 2, Jane Eyre), & MORE! Roxy & John REACT to all the Eeriest Scenes & Most Chilling Moments including Come To Me, Count Orlok Confronts Ellen, Count Orlok's Voice Revealed, Entering the Vampire Castle Scene, the Ending, & Beyond!! NOTE FOR YOUTUBE: All Footage Featured From "Nosferatu" Is From A FICTIONAL Horror Movie. Any & All References To Violence Or "Mature Content" Is NOT Real #Nosferatu #MovieReaction #HorrorThursday #Vampire #VampireMovies #CountOrlok #LilyRoseDepp #BillSkarsgard #NicholasHoult #WillemDafoe #RobertEggers #Dracula #FWMurnau #BramStoker #Horror #HorrorMovie #Scary #FirstTimeWatching #MovieReactionFirstTimeWatching #firsttimewatchingmoviereaction Follow Roxy Striar YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TheWhirlGirls Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/roxystriar/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/roxystriar Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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well gang uh hey we just uh succumbed to the influence of nosferatu if you're listening on apple or spotify i pray you bestow upon us your benevolent approval in the form of a five-star rating i wish i could riff in the parlance a movie like this uh you know prescribes but you know i am not that literary minded this music like as it's revving up though is so tis also we got cool t-shirts and merch and stuff at reject nation shop.com yeah we do you guys got sweaters it's still the winter time everyone in this movie could have used a real reject sweater if I do say so listen I liked their costume design but would that would rejects sweater have helped yeah of course the only thing that would push this into five-star territory Roxanne yeah man

We saved it, we waited, there's been some hype. I'm so happy I watch that with you. Like what? Oh, I'm glad. I'm glad we got to share this. Honestly, here in this moment, I'm like, this is the perfect way to have to have beheld this. I'm glad we got to do it. I was sick, sick.

Nobody overhyped it. It was so effing good. Man, like some people have said that that's the best Dracula movie of all time. And I hear them. I mean, I feel like. There's an argument for sure. That was. disturbingly good

I feel like people not that Lily Rose Orlock voice training Asger Dura Junius Dutier Oh gosh Let's go

I feel like Lily Rose Depp had a certain kind of like stank on her after the idol Which I didn't think was fair Because that show was not good For other reasons I felt But I feel like this

Definitely shook off that Because she was so good in this Everyone is so good in this Like quite literally everybody The animal handlers Wolf trainers Dog owners Cat trainers

Where's the rat trainer And then a lead cat trainer Yeah Horse master Man It looks so good It sounds so good The story was so good

It had just enough spins on things To kind of keep you guessing But it was still classic Yeah It was like Chef's Kiss Perfection

Couldn't have asked for more I agree. I was wondering how this would ultimately play because, again, I didn't listen to much in-depth discussion, but I did hear a couple opinions. Some people just really, really loved reveling in the artistry. Some people levied the complaint of like, well, if you know the Dracula story, you're going to know where this is going. And like you do, but to me, A, that's not a problem because again, this is a rich tradition of, you know, this is a story that I feel like kind of exists outside the whole. it doesn't not overlap with the need to keep remaking and revisiting, you know, old texts and whatnot. But I feel like there is a tradition in adapting Dracula every so often every generation or so, whether it be as Dracula or Nosferatu. And yeah, I mean, this, in a way, I was sitting here, this is like the subtle version of like, I had a similar experience watching this as I did watching Bram Stoker's Dracula, which is like a totally. different flavor in that it's like so bonkers in a way. It's so lush and it's so expressive and so

romanticized. Whereas this is definitely going for more of that. You know, it feels like an old painting. It's not like it's the utmost realism, but it is going for authenticity. It is going for the space and the air of the period and time that you're in. You're always confined by the constraints of candlelight and, you know, light streaming in through a window. And it makes so much out of light and shadow. And I was sitting here watching it just like continually wrapped up in the language of the movie and the way it articulated this particular story. And yeah, like even though the beats of Dracula have endured through all the different adaptations,

I really found myself compelled by every placement of the storylines. It's like when we were cutting to Thomas in the Carpathians, like that felt like a fully engaging storyline as much as, you know, figuring out what is going on. with Lenny. I love that Ellen, that Lenny is the nickname for that. You know, everything happening back in Germany, both things happening simultaneously kept mounting the dread of the entire piece whilst also, you know, deteriorating each character in their own specific way.

And I thought it handled, yeah, the paranoias of the time, the limitations of medicine, of psychological science, of occult science. And yeah, like, it is an approach to take, like, oh, with our resources now, you know, and the, you know, historical, like, I know that Robert Eggers is sort of renowned for his research, you know, like The Witch, one of the talking points about that movie was that so much of the dialogue was inspired by like old journals and things found from that, you know, place in New England at that time. The language and the, you know, scenery is all supposed to be very... Does the witch take place in Salem? I don't know if it's exactly Salem, but it's like, it's that. you know, part of the country that time, you know. My part of the country.

Surely. I was going to say maybe you will have like a, you know, deep cellular reaction when you watch it. It's possible. But yeah, it's like this is a very patient and deliberate movie and it definitely didn't drag for me. And I was constantly... It did not drag not one bit. No. How long?

What's the runtime? It's like two hours and change. It's like 210 or something like that. It felt like a 100 minute movie. Yeah. And like there's so much done again. in slow pans back and forth and the use of shadows. And like there are a couple moments that feel like,

oh, that's like a jump scare from a monster movie. But for the most part, I was always a movie like this, if it's not hitting on all cylinders, could, you know, leave you mind wandering or, you know, hoping to get back to a certain kind of thing where like every shot I was gripped by, I really loved, yeah, the visual presentation, the sound effects as well as, you know,

the compliments of the music. And the music wasn't even overly intrus. but I felt like, yeah, everything kind of went to assist this just sense of foreboding and deterioration. And the fact that across the whole movie, it does feel like slowly a shadow is descending on everyone. And certainly it affects, you know, you have the seed of that with Ellen, but then you witness it first and foremost through Thomas. And then slowly as, as, you know, we arrive in Germany and it starts to infect everyone. And I love that parallel of the plague. way that yeah like they do kind of go back and forth between the ideas of there must be some

grounded explanation to all of this but also you know the fun of the fantasy of this is that we know there is actually a supernatural circumstance at play yeah definitely everything you said also as you're mentioning specific characters i love that they took some time to explore the female friendship in this yeah that was so cool um that's something i don't feel like i have seen in this type of movie really no we take that moment and because so many ways Women of the 1800s and 1900s and today are just called crazy. You know, you're just crazy. Well, in the way the men talk, like it does, especially in this period, feel like, you know, they are talking about the women as though they are like some other creature almost.

A different species. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it was cool here that even when her husband kind of was like, why do you love this Ellen girl? She was like, I love her. She's part of my soul, and she stood up for her and protected her. And I do think that there is a lot of messages in the fact that Aaron Taylor Johnson's character, he pushes people away. If he had not, if he had done what he could to help during that time, then perhaps the circumstances would have ended differently. If he listened and had the faith.

Right. And even more than faith, like, I guess faith in his friendships. In his relationships, you know, like, I don't get what you're saying, but I know that you get it. So let me hear you out truly. And he has that moment when he's in the carriage and he says, I'm sorry, I didn't know, I didn't believe or whatever. And it's sad, it's sad because hindsight's obviously 20-20. Well, and that way it didn't feel contrived. Willem DeFoe is maybe the most sort of fun, heightened character aside from Canock.

But, you know, that's sort of a different element. And I thought that especially stuff like that. Like, I'm glad that they didn't make it a whole thing of like, oh, Friedrich, he's actually got eyes for Ellen or something like that. Like, I believed the friendship between him and Thomas as well as what that means for the relationship between him and Ellen. And I feel like it was nice that they didn't, in a movie that is so much about desire and, you know, carnal compulsions and base instincts and stuff like that, I feel like. And in previous movies, I mean, like, again, different. Nosferatu and Dracula do have some differences in their, you know, the core beats and stuff. So partly I'm drawing from Dracula's here, but like, you know, in Bram Stokers, the friend Lucy in that movie is, you know, sort of the more wild, free spirit, more lustful character.

And there is something of a love triangle happening here. And it suits that movie and it suits a version of this story. But I felt like most all the characters felt like real people and the way they spoke and, you know, kind of dealt with the situation and trying to wrap their minds around it. And the amount of patience they try to demonstrate, you know, and the way, you know, ultimately everybody has to confront that line of like, I've lost control. There's no explanation. I don't know what to do and things are just getting worse. Yeah. A moment for the pigeon scene because I know I've mentioned it several times throughout as I couldn't stop thinking about it.

But it takes a lot to, as you know, I've been on this horror journey. And it takes a lot to really like, I freak out over cockroaches all the time. Cockroaches are my thing. But to really surprise me, like, I've never seen that before. Oh, my God, that was truly insane to watch. That scene, I will reference forever. I mean, that got me too. That will not go away from my mind.

That will not. I don't know what happened. I'm going to have to go back and rewatch the five months. minutes following that yeah because i could not move forward from that watching the way there's something about the way they did it and if you just describe like oh he ate a pigeon i'd be like okay that's crazy but it was the way it was shot like you talked about the the fake out of it all kind of like oh he did it that got me more than anything i can think of that's ever gotten me ever in any movie i mean that was like that that was unbelievable um and i just watched the

terrifier for a guy so like but in terrifier you're expecting it i just think in this they they they set up these boundaries that made me think they're not going to do that and then they were like ha ha ha oh we're gonna we're gonna really do that yeah and i think the way it happened that there was there were choices like that a few times but that is the best example i would point to to where yeah they're keeping you in this long shot they're letting the performance really pulled you in and yeah he does that thing where he brings the bird up and he's like sort of you know about to put his teeth he's got it in his mouth essentially and he pulls it out of frame and again that fakes you out but you continue on this moment and you're so again gripped by

the exchange happening between these two characters that then when the jump happens it's earned you know it's not just like oh we cut over here and there's a loud noise which this movie does like once but like yeah that's i think early on in the movie too there's that scene where Lily Rose Depp is like in bed and you can't tell if she's like trying to catch her breath or if she's like moaning in the throes of pleasure or something

and you're sort of so fascinated by this odd, intimate moment and then you know some reveal happens that kind of catches you off guard and I feel like that's a conscientious way to have some of that horror movie cake and also eat it too by... There's another jump scare later on too that I was like

oh whoa, that got me. I don't remember exactly what it was but I called it out during it you guys would know. But there was a few of those. And I like that. I like that they decided to do that. You know, I didn't, none of it felt cheap. It all felt like, oh, that totally works for the genre that you guys are putting in front of us. Yeah, a couple jumps I feel like in a movie like this are well at home because, yeah, I think you do want at least a little bit of that. Like, this is certainly, yeah. It's all about the, the attention to detail. And again, so much of it is so patient. And I like that the movie commits to that the whole time. Like so

many times you're panning up into a shadow or going through a doorway and transitioning through all these things. And so it creates this almost stream of consciousness, despite the fact that it is so meticulously crafted. Yeah, everything's framed. I mean, everything. It was very cool. What did you think about the look of Nospheratu? I thought it was interesting. I like, I mean, ultimately, by the end of the movie, I was not pulled out or distracted or having any gripes come to mind. Again, I'd heard people say mustache. And if I know, anything about Robert Eggers, I would assume that he probably, you know, looked up

the kinds of, I know the, you know, the, whether or not Dracula is actually based on Vlad the Impalor is like a, is debated. But, you know, you're in that era of time. So like, given the, again, edge of authenticity and the fact that, yeah,

like, I love the classic Nospheratu look and I like a lot of the monstrous vampire creatures. You know, I welcome, yeah, try something new out. And for me, it worked. Like, it wasn't, uh, it didn't feel so monstrous as to like transcend out of the movie. But like, yeah, he was always icky and I loved how much they, you know, really slowly revealed him the more his influence takes hold. So it's like the approach to the storytelling as it pertained to the visual unveiling, I thought just eased me in a way where I was really open to it. And, uh, and I mean, yeah, his hook nose, his mustache.

the teeth, you know, the fact that he's always in these big furs, like he did really feel like an old, you know, Eastern European lord of some kind. So I was about it. But what do you think? Because I know some people have had very differing reactions to it. Yeah, no, I feel the same way that you do. I feel like we've seen a lot of different versions. And I don't think you should try something new just for shock factor. Yeah. So I hadn't heard about the mustache beforehand. If I had, I probably would have been like, oh, no. But I just thought he looked like he fit in this movie. Yeah.

They made a world, and he was the nosphratu of this world. And I didn't feel like it was gimmicky. I didn't think he was. I liked him his body as well. Like the, I don't know how they did in that closing shot, but we start to see that happen as they're sleeping together at the end. Yeah, he's like wasting away and withering. Yeah, and that was really interesting.

And when we first met him and he's got that hat in the fur, like you're saying, I loved his look. I think that it's different and memorable, but in a way that makes sense. Yeah. And too, I mean, this is, I'd love to watch this again because it certainly functions as a lovely retelling of this classic story. But also with, you know, it makes me want to go back and look at some of the nuances because any vampire thing is going to have questions of, you know, desire and lust. compulsion and animal instincts and things like that. And this was interesting because that's

certainly all a part of it. But her, I think they gave you the right amount of her story to make you wonder like, yeah, I guess you must have some kind of, you must be born a little different. And that's vague enough that you could be like, well, maybe that's just their rationalization at the time. Or maybe she does have this particular. I mean, certainly it seems like she awakens something in him when she makes that sort of desperate prayer at the beginning. But But I loved the idea that like she's calling out to anything. And if you don't, you know, as a superstitious person to some degree, I'm like, oh, yeah, if you don't get specific, you're leaving the door open. And yeah, this idea that as a child, she was overcome with these fits of sleepwalking nightmares, you know, found at one point she says, you know, my dad found me like out in the woods somewhere naked.

And I'm like, there's, I wonder if that too has to do with like, you know, the different kinds of stuff. sexual awakenings people have and maybe in less than wholesome or you know benevolent ways and things like that or the appetites generally like it's it's interesting because it doesn't necessarily hint at a specific trauma but it does seem like her again instincts desires whatever you want to call them are you know a force in her life that causes anguish confusion and despair and this idea that once i met thomas all that went away but that And after a certain amount of time, it started to come back. And it's about the time that, you know, we're starting our, we're really committed to each other.

Like the honeymoon phase is over. And then you wonder, like, you know, is there something magical, mystical that you lost along the way? Or is it just the human sort of, again, honeymoon phase wearing off and your demons and your baggage coming back? Because when you're riding high off love and even, like, to hear Count Orlock mention, discuss the concept of love is even fascinating. And I loved the touchstones. Orlock says, you know, I am an appetite, nothing more, which is a bar for sure. And I feel like that's a great theme statement of a vampire story in particular and the way this version of the story wants to articulate itself. And then Simon Bernie said something right before they kill him.

He said, I am, I can't remember if it was like, I don't know, something akin to like destruction. plague, I am, you know, these, yeah, holy corrosive forces personified, sort of. There's that other line, too, about is evil within us, or does it come from us out? And I think, yeah, the movie, again, revels nicely in that. And I think, you know, in a package that certainly, you know, dives into some level of, it's not unpacking like sexual psychology, but certainly, you know, it's all about an attraction. It's all about this unholy bond. It's a very carnal thing.

It's a very physical thing. even the way. I love the way they personified the drinking because that is like it does look like they're like an intimate like lovemaking act and yet it also looks like he's just like breathing in their blood through their chest and too like the placement too on the heart instead of on the neck. Yeah that was cool. And she says kiss my heart. Yeah, definitely. There's just so many things to think about like the more we're talking about it, the more I'm even loving it, which is how you know a movie really kind of got to you. But I think that there's something to also be said in everything in time because we see the

beginning scene and then we see it says a few years later. Yeah. Which means that had she waited, she would have met Thomas. She wouldn't have siphon this demon. And she would have lived happily ever after. But sometimes we rush our pain. Sure. And whatever childhood, whatever loneliness, whatever thing that she didn't want to feel for another

night is very relatable to all of us. How many times have you sat there in bed or when you're eating or whatever and said, dear God or dear universe or dear anything or anyone, please help. Send me something. Send me a sign of person. Fill this void. But sometimes it's not the right moment or sometimes we have to practice patience and waiting and having things in time. And And when she asks for it too soon for whatever her journey is, had she not, when she met Thomas, she would have been ready for it and they could have just lived this beautiful, but she couldn't get there. And so that's destroyed. And then she doesn't ultimately get to end up with him because she has to save the world pretty much. one that's the thing that she summoned and that too because i feel like not every story if i'm

remembering correctly i don't think every story of dracula ends that way you know i feel like even the original nospharatu i sort of remember him by the window kind of he's alone he's you know on foot even at that point so there's like a different there's a different thing that registers at the end when you're like yeah you know you have that weird gray i like that fight they had like they have that fight and she says that thing about like you know oh he to the effect of he can satisfy my desires and my pleasures better than you can Thomas and they have that you know sort of fraught lovemaking scene between the two of them and then at the very end you have this act that is like to some degree ecstatic and it's built into this weird compulsion they have towards each other

and as much as she seems like his opposite in that she wants so badly to be good and to not even to be good just to she doesn't have the evil it seems the the desire the evil of nature even though she is kind of tapped into whatever occult plane she's able to access him on so like you get this

interesting thing at the end where it like it is a sacrifice but it is also like a literal climax crescendo thing and he knows the roosters he hears it or the cock crowing he hears it and he's just like I'm not leaving the circle's complete you woke me up and now you put me

back to sleep and part of me was like oh maybe she'll make it through but i feel like given like it's tragic that she ought to be punished for you know this you know by the you know structures of the movie for this desperate she had to she had to have him keep going she had to give her life and have him keep because otherwise he would have left early yeah and that's the peril you know that's yeah like i yeah the more we're talking about it the more excited i am to go revisit and yeah i feel like because that was again the biggest curiosity for me was okay how is this going to separate itself from all the other

Dracula's and certainly it is faithful to what you know so you can sit here and go like oh I can kind of I know vaguely what the beats are going to be but yeah I thought this justified its existence quite nicely in those again those layers without beating you over the head with it those layers of you know women's

intuition and then the little things that again that that friendship between her and the emacorian character like really beautiful was lovely and And when they're in bed together, and it's like a, it's a very, like, tender, intimate moment, the likes of which you rarely see kind of depicted ever. With platonic friendships, you really don't see that. Yeah. And, like, I really felt for that character, too.

And so, like, you know, you have, without, again, it being too writ large or obvious, like, you have these, you know, divides between genders and the role of, like, I have to go out and I have to, you know, do this for, you know, to get this position to get this position to get. get our, you know, life set up and I have to make the sacrifice and the whole debate of like, well, don't go, though. Like, we don't need all that. We can, if we're suffering together, it's not that bad, you know, if even if we have to live as poppers or whatever. And yeah, like, there's so much to kind of, I feel, like, dissect and feel out about, yeah, the sort of. It was so good. Yeah. It was so good. Yeah. Like, the more, I, it's one of those we could talk for like five hours about it. I mean, it was so good. And it's like, sexy and dark in the in the most icky way it's like it's weird it's not unsexy whilst also being like

not alluring whatsoever looking at the back of his bones and ribs and stuff and I was like I wanted to see this I don't know why but something I wanted to I can't lie I was like I have been waiting for this moment we did see a little nausee yeah we saw that ween ferratu yeah we did we saw which that's bold too I never see that before. We got a couple nips in there, too. We did. We did. It actually.

It was all in the shadows and cool. Like, I just, even the girl on the horse when she's, when she's riding in with her hair in front, you know, I'm talking about the naked girl on the horse. Yeah.

I just thought everything was shot so beautifully. Sometimes, and I'm not, I'm not some kind of a prude, but sometimes nowadays, there's just nudity in everything. And it's like, why?

But this movie, it just felt so natural. It didn't feel ugly. They felt like we're going to show nudity if they should be naked in that scene. Yeah, and you believe like that that thing on horseback is striking and unsettling, but it also feels like you have just stumbled

into a clearing and are peering in on some ritual. Right. And we don't even see what happens there. You just can infer. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And like I had heard, again, one of the few things was people were like, oh, that's a lusty-ass movie.

Get ready. And this was not, this didn't strike as much as like lust is one of the hungers that pervades this whole thing and is a heavy theme it actually wasn't yeah over the top until like there's more of that in a Bram Stoker's Dracula or something like that where yeah there's not

a whole bunch of nudity there's not a whole bunch of like sex scenes and stuff like that like we really like the Lucy character in Bram Stoker's Dracula but she is definitely like a nymph of a character and this like there's always that again looming yeah what is the and I'm surprised they didn't do the whole I don't think it's in the Nospharatu original movie

but they didn't do the whole like Brides of Dracula thing where like they pray upon Thomas like that. We have seen that a lot. We have. And I and that was a choice. I was expecting that because I heard. And maybe they did because he claims that they did when he's talking to her. Well, we could have not seen it. But I think that that's smart. We don't know. This is a good lesson in reading the TOS. I mean, it's, it's a little unfair when you're, you know, when the person you're going to sign with has like translated it into their home language that you don't speak. But that whole thing about like, he signed away your divorce. I'm like, did he though? I think he just wanted to get the hell out of there and didn't

Have anyone to transfer? Like, I feel like I didn't catch it, and I don't know if they just wrote it in the German. It felt to me like it wasn't in his language. Like Orlock had his own version of the contract, because why wouldn't he? No, he did say that. He said in my language. Yeah, so I'm like.

There was a line where he said it. Yeah, he got duped. My man's got duped. But yeah, you get the voyage back. And it's the best of us. And the sea, you know, you get the voyage back on the boat. You get the plague rats and stuff like that. Even his fall out the window felt real.

Yeah. Like, you know, you. Usually those falls are like, oh, come on. But, yeah, just the way that it was. And he washes downstream and then finally finds someone who speaks German English. Yeah. Yeah, man. I'm excited to watch this again.

This was really, really cool and gratifying. Like, this is a great horror piece, but it's also just some cinema, like some choice. USD approved grade A cinema. We're on such the same page about this. This is just such a yes for me. Oh, I'm glad. You know what? I feel like this is a strong way to start.

start off 2025 as what are we the vamp checks the vampire twins we should be let's pull up a factor two before we hit the boogins oh yeah I feel like we should just start a podcast where we discuss vampire movies in depth for for hours we're just loving it we're

loving the we're dead and loving it yeah Dracula so you said this came out over Christmas huh Christmas day this was released yeah well and that's it's Christmas time I thought that was a fun little detail without uh without it just enough to remind you they walk into that one room and like there are candles all over the tree and I'm like oh damn that's right um all right

what do we got and there's that one song oh yeah they played o tenenbaum god props to every department though before we happen to the show you're like the sound the costumes the hair and all the actors like the casting and the and the timbre of each performance was absolutely right because lily rose deb has to be this you have to believe her sweetness as this guy's you know love is bonnie lass you also have to believe her like cosmic, you know, twisted darkness that speaks out to Orlock. And then, you know, you have an Aaron Taylor Johnson who's a bit more reserved and a bit more like upstanding or whatever, you know, and a bit more of like a normal guy of the time. And then you have like craziness in Simon McBurney.

You have Willem Defoe who's like a vuncular suiting of a guy who's known to be a bit of a coup, you know, at this point. But also he's like the perfect level. It's not too much He's not He's like It was like dialed back From poor things

But still elevated I see poor things too I haven't seen a single Lanthamos Oh I That he's my guy He's the guy Oh you didn't see lobster

You would love that I want to Oh you need to do All of his movies here I would you know what I would love that I would love to choose a director Just go on

gone a unit He is my it guy Yeah I love him Well you're lucky Because he and Luca Guadagnino Are making like 10 movies a year

I know I know. Okay, so you know how I asked about the castle. Hey! First fact up, the exteriors of Orlock's castle were filmed at Hunadora Castle, Doara. It's weird, D-O-A-R-A-U-A-U-A-D-A-Rasel, also known as Corvin Castle, a Romanian castle located in Transylvania. And one of the largest medieval castles, extant, in Europe. What's more, it's a castle where Vlad Dracula was briefly imprisoned. And that's fun. Interesting.

According to Bill Scarsguard, one of the Hollywood Scarsguards, his voice was the aspect of the part he worked hardest at, spending six weeks before shooting, not doing, quote, much else than just record myself. And on set, I would keep doing these exercises. It sounds kind of like Mongolian throat singing. That makes perfect sense because his,

vocally, this is so different than anything we've heard him do. Yeah. And it felt perfect tonally for this movie. like it just it was a little different a little offbeat and you couldn't put your finger on it but he nailed it really good and it could have got tedious because he's always speaking so slowly and deliberately but his just yeah the personification his work making selling that voice and and two shrouded in shadow half the time like combining all those things is really impressive he doesn't sound like that no at all this was like so deep deep. And it was the accent, but also the vocal register he was in is not his own, which is so difficult to maintain

without losing your voice. Like it, it perfectly embodies what you would imagine like a hundreds of years old ghoul. Yeah. You know, royal blooded you know, guy might sound like. Oh my God. Bill Scarsguard trained with an opera coach. Oh, you're getting close. To lower his voice, an octave

to make the voice of counterlock as deep as possible. That makes sense. It was an octave lower. Yeah. I want to to know what those exercises were. I'm so scared for you to read this one out loud. Willem Defoe did a scene with 2,000 live rats. I wonder was that the end scene where he's burning the thing up? I feel like it must be.

Let me tell you something, John. I'm an actress. You know this. I would do almost anything for a role. Okay. Not 2,000 live rats. I don't mean almost anything as in anyone. I mean anything.

You want to be a stud, don't you? I don't know. 2000 live rats. That's a lot of rats, boy. I think I could do it, but the way the paycheck would have to come in. I would have to make a certain amount per rat. That is, yeah, I mean, you've got to. That is horrifying.

Hell, yeah. That's a tough one. But will you do a scene with a pigeon? I hope there's a pigeon fact in here. The castle scenes were filmed in the... I guess would these be the interiors? Oh, maybe. Pernstain Castle in the Czech Republic,

the same location that was used for Werner Herzog's film, Nosferatu, the Vampire from 1979. Oh, my goodness gracious. Okay, in an interview with Variety, director Robert Eggers explained that the design for Orlock deliberately went back to folklore and to the culture of Orlock's home region. So to try and make a more scary vampire

than we've had in quite some time, I went back to the folklore. He says it's something that I like anyway, but the early folk vampire was written about by people who believe that vampires existed. There was going to be some good stuff there and vampires of folklore is a putrid walking undead corpse.

And so the question became, what does a dead Transylvanian nobleman look like? That means this complex Hungarian costume with the very long sleeves, strange healed shoes, and a furry hat. It also means a mustache. No matter what, there's no way this guy can't have a mustache.

Try to find a Transylvania person who's of age who can grow a mustache that doesn't have a mustache. It's part of the culture. If you don't want to bother Googling. Think of Vlad the Impaler. Even Bram Stoker had the sense to give Dracula a mustache in the book.

That's true. I think they penciled it down real fine for Bella Lagozy. That makes perfect sense to me. Good job. Yeah. The film's eerie moonlit look for the night scenes

to get those looks. The crew filmed these scenes during the daytime. I thought they shot day for night. The way that the color grading on it, you could tell. That's cool. Wow.

And they apparently went in and they removed the red and yellow color spectra, which I'm sure is like standard practice now, but like I'm used to the one where you go out and you just, you know, you're in daylight and you set it to tungsten and now it's all blue. Yeah, yeah. But these look good because I wasn't even thinking about it. And lately, especially, I feel like people have been trying a lot of low light stuff and day for night stuff and it doesn't always.

I feel like for this, you have to because of how much shadows you're working with. And like they're all, you have to make it so specific for the framing. It would have been very challenging. Oh. That's my guess. I bet. The word Nosferatu is uncertain of origin. It's believed that Bram Stoker first learned it from an 1885 article by Emily Girard on Transylvanian superstition.

And only previous usage is from a German article on vampires from 1865 by Wilhelm Schmidt. Both sources claim the word is Romanian, but the term has no meaning in that language. That's interesting. The preparation for this role as Count Orlock was reportedly so intense that Bill Scarsgaard's that it is the one role where he's ever truly terrified himself. Oh my God. In an interview with director Robert Eggers, Scarsgaard, said, I've never been more

terrified of a role and probably won't be again. The whole journey was so intense. Once you start channeling something that's not you, you feel like a vessel. After filming, he stated that he would, quote, never play a role as evil as this one again. Which, I mean, he's a good quote for press. Yeah. It's a good quote. And I mean, he's made

a living off of playing such you know, evil dudes most of the time. He's, him and Evan Peters are overdue to play just like average guy. I saw, I saw Thelma and one of the emperors from Gladiator 2 is in it. And I was like, oh, cool, you just get to play a dude. Just a friendly dude. Nice for you. Which one of them?

One of the brothers? The wackier one. The one that was in Craven? Yes. Yes, yes. Claim to Favon. Along with Aaron Taylor Johnson. An extended cut of the film will include footage of Orlock that was glimpsed in the

film's trailer, but not the theatrical version. the scene is Orlock is seen from the back. It's one of those annoying things for film dorks because it's not in the movie, director, Egers. He seems in the interviews I've seen from him, he seems like a very matter of fact kind of guy. It's a really cool shot. I really liked the shot, but where it was intended,

it was ruining some tension to know that Orelock was around. He added, we needed to keep him more mysterious. But if you would wish to purchase the Blu-ray, it is in the extended edition of the film. That's cool. Apparently, Bill Scarsgard was originally cast as Thomas Hutter. However, during the pre-production, Eager's decided to recast

Scarsgaard as Orlock instead. That's crazy. Eger's stated he felt the recasting was to make the sexual subtext between Orlock and some of his victims even more convincing. I guess having a young guy... Who's Thomas Hutter? He's the Nicholas Holt character, which makes me wonder... Oh, it was originally cast as Thomas.

Oh, I thought they were saying what... Oh, Bill Scarsgar was originally, I'm with you. Yeah. So who was Orlock originally? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it was Willem Defoe again. Director Eggers also revealed that Lily Rose Depp brought him to tears during a horror audition. I had met with Lily

and she just impressed me so much she understood the script so well. She had seen every major Dracula adaptation and a lot more obscure ones. She immediately brought up our Polish friend director, friend Andrei Zulowski and I knew we were on the same page. That I once gave you

that that social media video where we talked about movies we regret watching is my answer that I gave you that isn't in that video is one of this guy's movies actually but yeah

we had an audition in the screen test and it was just as raw and powerful as what she's doing on screen I'm not exaggerating I was in tears her audition was so insane

and that's and she's just such a disciplined courageous and like feral actor she's amazing she really yeah she is so great and I'm glad

that they auditioned her too because it's not who would have come to mind and I do think that it's really cool and I knew immediately it wouldn't have been straight off her because she just is not there in her career at this moment. So it's so cool that

she is that earned. Yeah. I mean, as a first impression for me, I mean, like really knocked it out of the park. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, seriously, you know, obviously, uh, nepotism, but like, what a talent for real. She's good. And in regards to some of her more physically demanding scenes, uh, in which her character, Ellen Hutter becomes psychologically tormented by Orlock Lily Rose Depp notes. As far as the physical stuff, Rob introduced me to Japanese Buto, which is a Japanese performance art dance form, which at the core of it, which at the

core of is this idea of letting your consciousness and yourself kind of float away from your physical body. You become an empty vessel for something else to take over. It is so beautiful, such a beautiful if any Buto is around you, their performance art is just so

stunning. I have seen a few different shows. I need too. Yeah, it's really cool to see. Really cool to see. And I could see that. It's like a lot methodical movements and things coming out of your chest and whatnot. That's cool. Well, and fascinating, too, that a movie with these themes and stuff would have so many people on set being like, you kind of just have to like make yourself a vessel, which is like

what the movie's about to. And like, you know, I feel like there was like, to make a movie like this and to really make it sing, you kind of have to channel some real dark energy. Also, Robert Eggers co-directed a production of Nostratu in high school. So, Mann's has been around. Let's do a couple spoilers before we hit the road. because now we can after filming wrapped

Robert Eggers director Robert Eggers sent Bill Scarsgars prosthetic peen to Nicholas Holt as a gift in an interview with L Holt stated I have Count Orlock's

prosthetic penis framed at home there's a scene where Bill Scarsgarde is slurping by blood Robert Eggers asked afterwards how was that for you and I said I could feel his prosthetic penis on my leg

and then as a rap gift Rob got it framed and he sent it to my that is unbelievable that is that is the better version of jared leto using a condiment sending it to margot rabe on set like that's infinitely better this is acceptable i hope nicholas holt has that framed in some prominent play like in his dining room or something like that like the previous incan incarnations count orlock is associated with rats on the opposite end his opponents ellen hudder and professor albin erb erber eberhart von franzhue are associated with cats killers of rats that was well represented here My golly, this is a novel What's in this thing? All right. Count Orlock only breathes in to speak. That's a cool

detail I would love to go back and observe. Bill Scarsgard revealed an interview that his nude scene for his nude scene when Thomas confronted Orlock in his sarcophagus. The majority of his body was covered in heavy prosthetics except for the souls of his feet and the palms of his hand. He must have been chilly.

The shots at editing techniques used to portray the way Orlock's psychic communication with Ellen are directly inspired by Sengali in 1931. More broadly, Orlock's attempts to mentally dominate Ellen are heavily inspired by the film. Golly, these are all novels. The rats were named in Latin sets of 10 to keep track of their whereabouts while...

Oh, my God. So they were all real the whole time? Yeah, I guess so. Or most of them must be... Let's see. Oh, Dracula has a small novel in the book. That's fun. I wonder if they're the folks who are outside in the camp.

But then again, they're also telling him not to go in. So maybe not. For the full-body prosthetic for Count Orlock, there are a total of 62 prosthetic pieces. Took a team of six people between four and six hours to apply those to Bill Scarsgaard. Although he's got a good frame for that stuff. That checks out. I'm not going to read you that one because that's about the witch. Oh, good.

Yeah, don't split it for me. Well, in Transylvania, Thomas scenes a band of Romani using a young woman to ritually lead them to the grave of a vampire. This foreshadows that Orlock. will likewise be destroyed by a pure-hearted young woman. Interesting. The scene where Orlock directly confronts Ellen with his ultimatum, be with me or your husband will suffer as likely an homage to win. Count Dracula did the same to Lucy Harker in Dracula, 1979.

Well, you think? You think? Oh. The original film, and then we'll close out. It was the first piece. Only two people found this one helpful. Oh, well, we are those two. Okay.

Nosphorus, a symphony of horror 1922, was the first piece of media. to depict a vampire being killed by the sun or being turned into a puff of dust by the sun, which then became a standard of modern vampire lore. Though they may be temporarily rendered immobile corpses or compelled to return to their graves during the day and suffer ill effects if they cannot, sunlight does not kill vampires in historical folklore.

The film balances its desires to be accurate both historically and to the original source material by having Orlock die when the sun rises after the first cockcrow, as he does in Nosphorus to a Symphony of Horror, 22, but without him turning into dust, like he wouldn't in folklore. And that's a good one.

Because I, yeah, I definitely kind of thought that was interesting that they leave you off on that final image of the bodies to further drive home that question. I mean, Orlock is such a creature that you have to believe that this was a supernatural occurrence. But at the same time, yeah, to have it be that he doesn't disintegrate. Like, you know, you have him bleed and you have his like mouth wrench open. Like they did something there to suggest that, yeah, the sunlight is really doing some damage but also yeah they just die on top of each other and she's and she sees her love and he comes in see me see this video recommend this video to your friends stick around and give us a two

hour watch time be careful what you wish for truly don't make any weird prayers in the middle of the night out of desperation unless you address them with intent uh guys thank you for joining us this was an absolute joy. This was a lovely cinematic way to start off the new year. Like, we've seen some good stuff already this year. But now I feel this is the first movie experience of 2025 where I've been like, yeah. Yeah, so good. Like, so, you know, I'm energized to go create.

I've enjoyed some stuff immensely. But now I'm energized to create. And I would love someday to make a vampire movie even half as good as this one. We're gearing up for it. We are. You and me. We're going to do it. Oh, my God, you will be the lead.

Oh. There you go. And then I will torture you with, you know, rats and pigeons on set. Anything but roaches? You got anything else to say to the people? No, loved this. Thanks for being here with us. And whatever vampire thing comes next, I'm excited for with you.

Okay. And just word search, there are no pigeon facts. So we're safe to go. Gang. The way you command aft pigeon. Scott Check. Scott Check. Stay safe out there and, you know, beware the moors.

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human person who, yeah, tries to make the world better. Yeah. And he is one, like there's several people at our Patreon for sure, who I would love to go actually do the thing where you fly out and be like, hey, I just wanted to meet you. Dude Rejects take Atlanta No no

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do that. And then we could go visit Flev in Romania. We can go visit we can get Eric on a spot. follow-up episode to go visit in Nisa, Texas. They're not far off on something because some people do. I was talking with Coswick Wonder about this, is that rarely do we really ever see when business person comes in as like, oh, I got money.

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