The Reel Rejects - OH MY GOD!! SEVERANCE SEASON 1 Episode 7, 8, & 9 REVIEW!

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Starting point is 00:02:18 no I lived up to the hype 100% that I cannot wait for more I want to you know not run out of it and then have to wait a hundred years for season three but yeah that was gripping i mean we talk so much in like the first chunk about um you know the likening of like corporations and to the formation of like religious cult like ways and i don't know i'm losing my train of thought i feel like i was really eloquent the last time we spoke about this so i like my mind is just we're so fractured right now you're your outy again. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:54 You gotta get re-severed, get eloquent Greg back in the room. Yeah, it was just like there was so much like mind-boggling stuff before and like a lot of thematic, right? If you haven't seen the pre-review funds, you're only here. There's like a lot of thematic breakdown that we were providing. But this time around, I'm like, this is all like emotionality and reveals to talk about this time. Yeah. A little bit more immediacy. It's all payoffs.

Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah. It's all just, will they get to the payoffs? And it's cool to pull back the veil and see that it is like some type of false narrative that they have orchestrated, man. How are you feeling? Well, I pull up some Royal Reject questions here. I am feeling. I'm feeling a lot. I mean, yeah, I'm a little rung out in a good way.

Starting point is 00:03:40 You know, like I have that sort of feeling of exhaustion that you get when you're breathlessly wrapped up into something. And, yeah, it's a real joy to get to watch something that is so well. That is so well acted that is so well shot and that is very sort of conscientious in its conception, you know, I'm sure there are all sorts of theories and or holes you could poke at, but, you know, none of that stuff comes directly to mind. And I heard somebody describe this first season as being like super, super slow burn. And I was like, this has been a pretty gripping pace for my money, you know, so. I feel like it was a little slow burn. I think I think it got faster as it went. Yeah. Like, you know. increasingly it's a slow ramp up like this final episode especially is just like edge of your seat taught thriller mode you know um god my mind is like a little melded right now okay so what do we learn so uh okay we got jemma's alive jemma's alive and for some reason they have for some reason mark must be so special i mean it must just be part of the the test experiment right Just to prove that the severance could work to the point that you could put a husband and wife together that you can't even tell. Yeah, and it makes me wonder, like, maybe Gemma got, like, maybe they pulled her in in the past as some kind of, yeah, like test candidate or something like that. Like, you know, come on in and let us, yeah, experiment this new treatment on you and we'll give you money and, you know, yada, yada, yada or something. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:05:17 But yeah, we learned that she's alive, that she's his wife. And then he blurts that out to freaking everybody, which I'm, you know, obviously fascinated to see the ramifications of. I mean, the implication, if you're shouting that out, everyone must, for, for, for Devin, she has to put together that, oh, she must be in Lumen then, you know, if, because his only interactions with people in Lumen. So they would, they would know that. Yeah, she must be down there somewhere. and then Mark Scout is not going to have the recollection of any of this, but now Mark S is going to know that he's like got to look for his Audi's wife while he's also starting this romance with Ellie R, which is wild,

Starting point is 00:06:01 or what could potentially be some kind of attraction with her. And then if you watch the switcheroo from what, from Heli to Helena, when people in the crowd witnessed that, they would see that there was sincerity to it. Yeah. But, you know, rich people would try to twist the narrative and bury that piece of information in the way they can. It's perfectly safe. Somebody, some bad actor, you know, hacked in and sabotaged our gala.

Starting point is 00:06:30 But really, this is actually safe and 100% tested. And, you know, it's just, yeah, the work of, you know, a violent rabble, you know, who's doing this to us or something. It's crazy. It's an insane show for a world that is often talked about. we have a very distraction-built society and in other words it could be a big avoidant of things and this whole show is so much

Starting point is 00:06:55 about the inability to process grief and deal with one's own suitability but there's also like you know for Helene's Helena's got a different position right of why she does it and there's something about it seems like it's something

Starting point is 00:07:12 with satisfying your father yeah obviously um and even the father feels like despondent you know like the image that they portrayed of what they build around the religion of it all is like he is so godlike he even computer animation that he could like fly but you see there's like a there's a down there they paint that he is god and then up there you see a despondent man with a god complex yeah you know yeah it's really it's really fucking cool how they do that. But the way they handle all the character arcs, though, you know, that's, that's the, that's the thing. It's like this show remain character driven with a lot of like, what the hell's really going on and with a lot of great allegories that they were drawing to real life. But what I loved about these last three is they kept it so character driven. You know, you're watching, uh, of freaking, um, uh, Irving. The one who I, I feel like any other show would make him be the foil for your main group, the one to not trust, but you're watching, uh, of freaking, uh, Irving. The one who I, I feel like any other show would make him be the foil for your main group, the one to not trust. But you're watching him break free and stand up the one you least suspect and uh and it's cool like what the

Starting point is 00:08:20 in the name of love what what what can do like a lot of this seems like there's a lot of in the name of love here's what we can do yeah one a guy who's so you know at work caught up on the protocols and the rules to then go do something yeah rashly out of the pure instinct of love like it really does speak i like i like i like seeing the kind of psychology they're able to lace into both the inies and the outies. This is clearly a guy who has a lot of trauma, but also a lot of passion and expression. And even Irv comes across as this very

Starting point is 00:08:52 straight-laced guy, put a sophisticate of taste, you know? And yeah, like, they're really good at letting the character surprise you, because I agree. It's like Irv. I like the kind of bookends that, at least to me, Irv and Kobel

Starting point is 00:09:07 kind of are, because they're both characters who like fiercely believe in this and are super indoctrinated or at least present that way to some degree and you know for both of them when their allegiance is tested there are these strong reactions but like as much as yeah you would think like irv would be the one who's always going to get them in trouble or is always going to report them like sometimes yeah someone who believe so fiercely but then discovers that's a lie might be your strongest defector yeah you know and so to see him choose that path but then to see somebody like

Starting point is 00:09:41 Cobell who doesn't have the severance thing to deal with you know in this weird limbo between do I say screw that and you watch the thing burn or do I take any opportunity to get back to the safety and assurance that I've dedicated my whole life to and yeah just like watching that all play out is is fun and fascinating and having a mixture of severed and unsevered characters to do that with I think is really fun and yeah this especially the final episode was just so fraught just the displacement of time and the sort of awareness that like oh god like you know as long as he can hold it is as long as we have and anything could get in the way of that um with the dylan arc especially being one that i like irving and dillam were the ones that i did not anticipate of being such compelling arcs

Starting point is 00:10:26 yeah you know like dylan that's such like an off-putting personality type that i would not want to personally hang around with like he just kind of gave me the ick and it's kind of the point with the satire of that kind of person who's in the office workplace but I love how the more it goes he's actually one of the most intelligent ones he's got like this brilliant memory and

Starting point is 00:10:49 to see how motivated he was by the end of it and there's also this catharsis of like stucuted to the man you know of like the illustration they can do on the micro of people in an office workspace standing up against their corporate overlords

Starting point is 00:11:05 you know there's there is that thing I feel like that general audiences are able to actually find, see themselves in of, of that level of workplace abuse. It was just really cool. Like Dylan, Dylan, the trigger point with the sun and that gnawing is cool because you see he's opposite for like because he's actually a dad who seems like really loving. He's got three kids and Helly too. Allie is in the underground in Lumen. She's the most defiant. She's the most rebellious.

Starting point is 00:11:41 And then you see her motivation as Helena. And she is the most loyal. She is doing this all in the name of obedience. And to prove a point, it is, it's like the, they say like the any that a lot of people, a lot of times are viewing themselves like, that's not me in there. But it's kind of like your opposite self.

Starting point is 00:12:03 is in there or this other side of you is in there and your yin and yang are not in simpatico and you're only opening yourself up to one side of yourself when really you have to have the harmony of both or contend with both sides of yourselves and then when you're not able to contend with both sides of yourself you're just shutting oneself off so there's like this cool psychological that turns into a physiological um expression uh that i i just adored So much. Adam Scott's like brilliant. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:36 He's so brilliant. They've really wonderfully cat. Like every, yeah, it's like Adam Scott obviously has to be, you know, incredibly capable to be the eyeline center of the show. But like really everyone has been so wonderfully cat. This seems like an actor's dream. Like any role in this show seems like, you know, something to sink your teeth into. And yeah, I love surprises like that when like you think, okay, I have my ensemble,

Starting point is 00:13:01 but here are the couple main people. there's nobody I don't like cutting to there's nobody I don't like following and it yeah it's like it has these fascinating implications of like when they sever you you know like how much thought and choice is going into like they must like the severed you has to be just compiled out of aspects of your brain and your personality so like how who decides what parts of you or is it just random what parts of you get shoved into that compartment to become your any uh yeah like yeah it's I love it's like you said every time we've recorded one of these I spent the next couple days just like ruminating

Starting point is 00:13:40 and having ideas float through my mind because the the core concept is rich enough that like there's just so much to think about there

Starting point is 00:13:47 there's so much to imagine and muse upon so Lumen is all built just for severance that's what it seems like like the whole construct

Starting point is 00:13:56 is mainly to drive home the purpose of severance like the actual work that are doing is a sat like when you zero in it's kind of a satirical version of working in an office space where it's like you feel like it's a lot of mundane nothingness and there's a version of you that goes to work you feel empty in life when you come home you know you just want to get away but it seems

Starting point is 00:14:18 like the whole point of lumen is only to um uplift the only like they they tell the public they're doing some type of work but really it's just a test subject round that's what it seems like the whole thing is about it feels like yeah the whole thing it's it's it's it's it's It's weird because you imagine that to get to the point of being this, you know, mega powerful corporation, they must have had to do and make other things in the past. But it seems like right now this does feel like just a big laboratory for testing shit on people. Yeah. And for seeing, yeah, how far can we push the boundaries of the actual literal bounds between the two personalities?

Starting point is 00:14:58 And then, yeah, how can we keep this cult of personality alive? almost. It's like all that seems clear about the current day Lumen is that yeah, it's the forefront innovator in terms of severance technology and they're just slavishly dedicated to the memory of this one guy who clearly has you know, is another one of those classic old school barons who's got like tons of shit around town named after him and tons of

Starting point is 00:15:24 property and it's like yeah, what do they actually do? And it's still fascinating to muse about. It's just such an evil disregard too because they're obviously miserable. They know they're miserable, but they keep, it's another thing of painting a narrative, like when you look at stock photos of a company.

Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah. You know, like let's make it all look like, this is the best place to work. It's always fun. It's always fun. Everyone bonds, you have relationships that could even develop

Starting point is 00:15:51 into something that's more meaningful, you know. It is a cool, like, sci-fi allegory to corporate work life and the false narrative. that they companies push and the weird especially in the current time the way so much like corporate culture has become this sort of new agey like you know and not to it seems like apple is the kind of place to it have some of this here's our meditation room here's our activity chamber and yeah

Starting point is 00:16:21 here's some new age place you can come and you know do whatever other thing that's not work related but that's like kind of for your mental health but we also know that deep down they just want you to freaking get your work done Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and so there's so much performative corporate culture nowadays that, like, you could continually, I guess, respond to that out in the world, you know? Yeah, and even though they treat you like, and in a lot of ways, Patricia Arquette, she is the ultimate personification of all this, you know? Like, they literally, she does everything and they just fire her on a whim. That I, that, that's like such a corporate thing, too, you know, like you do everything, a couple of mistakes.

Starting point is 00:17:02 happen and you're just fired after all this unyielding loyalty and then you know when she sees as an opportunity it is a cool like it is a cool illustration of how like the work life of society is is more of like

Starting point is 00:17:21 religious type of thinking than we actually realize yeah it's the vocational it fills so much of the vocational aspect of life that used to go to simply you know following your faith freaking wild i mean there's still so much we don't know though yeah there's still so i mean like i'm so fascinated with like mitchell uh not mitch millchick with milchick because his motivations are so unclear to me but he clearly is on the side of them of um here but i don't know

Starting point is 00:17:55 i can't tell he has some other type of agenda i can't yeah i don't know what the deal is and especially because yeah like he never like i he always seems like he has a soul motivation that is like his own and i can't identify what the look is behind his eyes because he obviously we see him very fiercely tow the company line and he does things that are go by around other people's backs too and yeah yeah and you're left to wonder is this just some kind of means of like i am going above and beyond and you know you ask forgiveness rather than permission if i get the desired result than I could use this to further my own career advance or whatever but at the same time you also wonder like how much do you know what side of the lines have you been on you don't seem like you've

Starting point is 00:18:42 ever been severed but who knows and like yeah how far does this go from your purview because it seems like he certainly has enough autonomy to move without uh you know yeah uh harmony um wow uh can't wait to start season two yeah we don't need to talk forever we have it we have opportunity ccc We've got 10 more episodes. Yeah, man. Yeah, we can actually enjoy ourselves. We are spoiled until the 10 episodes are done. That's what I'm talking about, baby.

Starting point is 00:19:10 Let's see here. Okay, here we go. Let's answer some questions from our Royal Rejects. Powell, Casmaricay, guys, I've got a simple one. Would you sever yourself to be able to both watch movies and the cinema and react to them here? Yeah. Oh, my God. That would be incredible.

Starting point is 00:19:28 That's the only reason I would pause. I would possibly do it That is a great That is a brilliant question Holy shit That is a brilliant for us That is a perfect question You get every movie

Starting point is 00:19:42 Twice no plus no much So cool 100% plus all the double Like first time like you get that One of you knows that to look forward to You can be excited for your other self Oh my God I can watch every movie with my wife Except then you'll have a version of you

Starting point is 00:19:58 That is like stuck at the movie I'm stuck here. Every time I leave the auditorium, I'm just back in the movies. I want to go home. My eyes hurt. I'm tired of popcorn. I hate soda. I mean, in the severance rules, we would really be stuck here the whole time.

Starting point is 00:20:11 That's true. We'd be at the studio. We'd be at the studio all. They would never leave the studio. I mean, the studio's nice. It would just be like how it was for the last 10 years for me. Yeah, you'd be back in your house. Back in my home or the studios.

Starting point is 00:20:22 It's like, oh, shit, I left this two months ago. You know, if we could just more freely communicate with our severed selves, I think that was a great question. I appreciate that question a lot. Thank you, that is that as a wish. Thank you. Thank you so much. We have some confused questions that we will just answer because some people don't realize that we shoot a lot in advance because these things take a long time to edit often.

Starting point is 00:20:48 And then the ones that are like quick turnarounds like VODs are really that goes to the prepper. Like, yeah, we have our end where we're hustling. but Prepper with the multiple people working on it is the only reason we're able to pull that shit off. So, yeah, but a lot of these were trying to shoot in advance because even though it doesn't look like we might not get a holiday due to stranger things, you want to get more of a, want to get a little more time off honestly.

Starting point is 00:21:14 It would be nice to travel. One more clap. Here you go. All right, JW, Severance. Hope you guys enjoyed this season. Now, imagine the torture of having to wait three years for season. Oh, my God. It was three years.

Starting point is 00:21:27 thought it was like a year and a half or something three that's freaking bonkers that sucks i remember it was only like a handful of months ago it came back right yeah oh that sucks says yeah like what a huge toppling of dominoes question one of the big reveals during this batch of episodes shock you shocked you more miss casey being mark's wife or helly being an egan did you see either coming i'm pretty proud of figuring out that I mean we were really alley up that you were like

Starting point is 00:21:58 detectiving it you know and maybe that pisses people off I know that's how that's pisses people off but the show wants you to like question stuff the show wants you to get involved in the mystery you know but you know putting to get there's just so many clues in it for some reason

Starting point is 00:22:14 when there's a conversation of the wife being severed it was hitting me in that moment and they started talking about the white the Egan wife we find us a gabby we found her about gabby gem no no no no the the gabby egan woman oh oh oh yeah when we when we learn about her um was she an egan i'm my brain getting scrambled here okay wait let's go the one the love the the pregnant lady that devon was that yeah she's with that

Starting point is 00:22:42 senator guy yeah that art had a guy yeah um so when yeah my bad okay when uh they were having when was selvig or selvig and devon speaking with each other and then uh just like picking up on themes a lot of these shows are like the magic trick you know they make you you have to pay attention to what they're not showing you and it just hit me like oh we never see the wife we and there were several episodes in and we haven't seen jack shit about her and if there's one thing grief stories love to do is have people look at photos of their one dead yeah you know which we've never done here no mark is torn up no flashbacks and then for six episodes was pretty good at getting me not to think about it but in that moment it hit me we

Starting point is 00:23:28 hadn't and the fact that they brought jemma up and that moment was when i went oh she must be around and then when we were detecting me with the hair we were like what other women have we seen because it can't just be some random woman can't just be anybody yeah it has to be such a point out of yeah it has to be a woman we've seen and then it's like by process of elimination he's like oh it's got to be yeah here in this exact moment now my brain is wondering like maybe they did get into a car crash and maybe she's like only her severed personality is like remaining or something like maybe severance was a life changing procedure for her but the prices that she can only like be in that state or something like I don't know but uh I mean that

Starting point is 00:24:08 was yeah it was it was like very fun and rewarding getting to kind of like feel the piecing together of that and yeah like the the little alube uh I mean we suspected hellie was um someone uh more superior there were clues that she was someone of importance in super i think it was like episode eight where i said it there was just something there that was big and especially the way how what i was comparing it to the way bert talked to himself like bert actually seems like a worker who doesn't know much yeah yeah but yeah clearly yeah and they kept driving that home and then uh that's why i started thinking about the first time we saw hellie's tape where she seemed like she really knew what this shit is yeah she seemed very confident and very no bullshit about it yeah and and it's something that

Starting point is 00:24:55 felt and you you i think you throughout the theory that she was the daughter of selvig or um cobble cobal yeah somebody like that uh but no i didn't i didn't see her being the daughter i felt like she was someone important with power yeah but i didn't see her being an egan that blew my mind maybe in a different more immediate way because there was less you know again there's less like clue giving revolved around that other than those like couple of very close up shots where you're like oh it looks like she's in place nice uh so i guess in in a way that's more shocking they're neck and neck though and all the the the clue giving with uh the jemma stuff with miss casey that like they're her taking the candle selvick taking the candle and the candle showing up in the wellness meeting and things like that like it stuff like that you know plants the seed in your subconscious, I think. Yeah. But either way, both, I think, masterful reveals.

Starting point is 00:25:55 I hate twists where you're like, there's no way you can see that coming. I hate twists like that. They have to be a sweet spot where there's a possibility you can see it coming. Yeah. And all this stuff with Selvig being so invested in his life in particular now makes all the sense in the world. And that's another one of those details where you're like, what the hell is this? Why?

Starting point is 00:26:14 Why only this guy? And then you find out and you're like, I get why. totally because you're literally like taking notes on this experiment to see and you got to make sure that yeah like you know the actual knowledge of the people around who know his wife is supposed to be debt you know like all of that needs to be contained and yeah and it's like yeah it's so effectively weird and unsettling at the top with no info and then at the end yeah you look back and you're like holy shit like you could at least deduce or suspect these things if you wanted to I think of you know I got very serious about my health this year. Since January, I've dropped nearly 50 pounds and a little over 10% body fat. And when one is committed like that, you start to realize it's not just about hitting a number on a scale. It's about building a sustainable lifestyle. That's why something like Hello Fresh fits so well into a routine like mine. Today's video sponsor. Now look, you may have heard of Hello Fresh before. They deliver chef crafted recipes and

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Starting point is 00:28:30 Jay Rushden. Hey. Okay, if someone yelled, she's alive during party, would anyone react? Animal Craig's wife ever being reaction to be in the future? She's been in some. Olivia's alive. Olivia's alive.

Starting point is 00:28:40 She's alive. I can hide. She's mad at me. I would ask who's alive. She's alive during Parvian React. Yeah, I think there'd be a lot of people being like, what is this guy talking about? But Devin's the only one with the information

Starting point is 00:28:53 that she spoke with the any. I should have recorded that conversation. She should have. You have a cell phone. Should have a, but, yeah, I mean, people undoubtedly. That would send chills if I heard something to shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would definitely be disconcerted and worried.

Starting point is 00:29:10 And he managed to get it out. I would be so mad if it ended any. did you get up and like this freaking because that the whole okay yeah let's let me move out to the next question there's i feel like we can talk about it just go for feted mopet uh they really amp up the intensity and suspense in the last episode i found myself physically squirming on my couch and yelling at the screen which isn't normal tv watching behavior for me uh it is here i'm curious to see if you two experience something similar and if you can think of another show you enjoyed that might have caused a full body reaction oh um golly i can't really think of another show right

Starting point is 00:29:49 now definitely i'm movies there's this one movie um called uh dragged across concrete and i it's like a three hour crime drama and i decided to put it on randomly at midnight i'll like i'll watch like an hour of this then go to bed then i got so engross and there was like this one moment where And we have like a, we have like cameras in our home to monitor the cats. And it was like two in the morning. And this is one moment happens where I went, holy shit, like by myself. Like what just happened? Oh, man.

Starting point is 00:30:27 But no, I mean, in terms of this, though, that was what I was trying to speak to earlier. Is that if they ended with that after like an episode. Because there was, it was writing that line of like, look, I know this is brand new. you guys, and you're not used to being out here. I could totally get it, but you seem like you're really taking your sweet freaking time when you know that you don't have a lot of time right now. And you guys came up

Starting point is 00:30:50 with this plan. You know the urgency. This is not like, hey, let's just soak this experience. And this is not that. This is a mission. Like, you guys got to get a move on. And so, yeah, I was getting like stress and I would have been really pissed if Mark did not get those words out.

Starting point is 00:31:07 He's freaking meander for so long. You sat through this guy's book. I would have been really obsessed I think the final episode did an incredible job with making be like God damn it holy shit stop interrupting you know like delivering of information it becomes the most intense thing possible yeah any other shows that have made me

Starting point is 00:31:32 like writhe and squirm to this degree I mean Dexter certainly does that right now without a camera without a camera though I mean, I think that happened. This is like Breaking Bad. Because, yeah. Oh, Breaking Bad was like so many points of no return. Final season does very specific thing with a case people haven't seen it.

Starting point is 00:31:51 But yeah, very specific thing with a character I love. But I was shocked to my core. Yeah. Yeah. So I feel like I would have been pretty wrapped, pretty tense with that show. I'm trying to, yeah, think if anything else comes to mind. But that one certainly off the top. There's got to be some horror show or some kind of.

Starting point is 00:32:10 yeah weird sci-fi thing that's made me like yeah really physical yeah uh but yeah it's a great thing about here is that you know we're here it's an opportunity to express what's going on inside of us you know it's really fun to let it out let it be on the surface where you don't get judged at home be like shut up yeah yeah absolutely kev b um what is the grander purpose of lubin severance program what theories do you have for season two so a bit of trivia for First, Define Jazz dancing in episode 7 performed by Tremel Tillman was mostly improvised on set. Oh, I hope so. The cast surprised at the office light turning rainbow was genuine.

Starting point is 00:32:50 Oh, cool. That was nice. That seemed like a really great moment. As it hadn't been told it would happen in advance, the additional genre options besides Define Jazz or buoyant. Boyant reggae. To your full emo and exciting rap. There's a whole list of them. That's fun facts.

Starting point is 00:33:06 The grander purpose of Lumen Severus for others. a way you can monopolize that and you can make some real money off like you could sell that program i feel like that's kind of where they're headed right like you can go to sell and it gives you a level of control as they demonstrate here is that who they they they pitch it as a sense of you're more free and you get to be more of your freer self because you get to get away from a lot of the bullshit but really they're controlling you you know and i feel like that's a big part of, you know, the weaponization of control society, but there's, there's other things that they haven't, I mean, do you have any other grander purpose theories? I mean, I could, I guess my

Starting point is 00:33:54 brain goes to the idea that I'm, you could just use this to further any and all nefarious pursuits throughout corporate, you know, socioeconomic life in perpetuity forever throughout the galaxy. Like, you know, you could, you could, you could severance. soldiers you could sever people making hazardous biochemical weapons you could sever frigging people doing low management service industry like you kind of do it to anything that must have been the point with um irving i mean i imagine i had PTSD but that was probably the point right is to show that you maybe you could sever someone and they could just be a soldier yeah like i would have to imagine that yeah like that would be possible so you could just have like your

Starting point is 00:34:34 own severed militia to activate at any point in time or or yeah just like the perfect untraceable or you know theoretically untraceable workers to help you make any number of yeah contraband weapons to traffic people to keep people who are being trafficked from knowing that they're even being trafficked like my brain goes to all the worst possible applications because yeah like the this seems like ideal technology for any and all of the powers that be yeah you know because a lot of the times like what's good and ultimately no matter how horrific an event what we deem as a human society as horrific good or bad is what we choose is good or bad, what we have labeled as good or bad, how we have formed as good or bad.

Starting point is 00:35:21 Good and bad, sometimes things seem like universal and they carry on through since the beginning of time, but a lot of things that redeemed good and bad were not considered good or bad before. And as I might argue, nothing's good or bad. We have just determined it is. Cultural relativism. So what really applies to that is our emotional associational. to it you know the way something makes us feel and so if you can strip yourself with that feeling then you don't have then it's not bad it's just a thing uh what theories do we have uh i don't

Starting point is 00:35:52 have any to i have a want what i would really want is for them to drive home a stronger debate for the severance program right now i feel like the show is very obviously like severance program and I would love to see more of be here in the position going make a good point about the severance program. I would like to be challenged more in feeling and thinking that. Like I feel like they're just making more provocative if I go, whoa, you know what? They might be on or something. And you don't have to be desperate to want to do this. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:32 You know, or something like that because it does seem like a desperate choice. I don't know. Yeah. theories for season two I just imagine we'll get I feel like we should probably get some more expansions on Mill Chicken season two but that's not really a theory

Starting point is 00:36:46 I don't know like I don't know what to theorize yeah that's the thing I don't I mean the one big dangling thread that I think we got because like well we can we'll understand reveals and shit as they go but the big dangling thread is the lady who we only saw for one episode like there's such a buildup to that phone call

Starting point is 00:37:03 and we only got her for one episode like five seconds of the of one episode at the end but then like we only got a couple of scenes with her and you find out that she's the one who read did the reintegration reintegration for PD and then the security guard goes missing uh but not much information was revealed and like what more of the plans that they have and how are these pieces going to come together so shit like that i'm really look forward to seeing last one here cat g other than severance other than the severance other than these severance procedure itself. What aspects of

Starting point is 00:37:38 Lumen Industries do you find most eerie? A lot of stuff of Milcheck of the sinister of the guise of reward and the guise of happiness you know. And like the

Starting point is 00:37:55 gamification in such a childish way of all the things they do there. You win a finger trap. I can get you a beer cozy. Yeah. You know and the way they like so vehemently cling to those things. We have ping pong here now.

Starting point is 00:38:09 We always say we have paintball. He's like enticing him with like bullshit. Perks you don't even know exist. Truly frivolous things. Yeah. They try to sell you as like the most ultimate meaningful thing you can get here. The part that I, because like the thing they show with the severance is that people can, people leave. But it would seem to me that Gemma is a, her body stays there.

Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah. You know? Like it goes. down we don't know where and there's a lot of these allegories that feel like you go to heaven or hell and seems like she gets the down elevator with the red one it feels like she's really dissenting in the hell i'm like what what ultimate human experiment are they really pulling on her is she like a cyborg yeah exactly yeah i mean and you know we don't really know what they're doing with the goats i mean they said the thing about the eggs and i'm like we got to be something

Starting point is 00:39:01 more than fucking goats right the eggs right yeah um and then yeah the perpetuity rooms i think are uh unbelievably icky i want to see a full waffle ceremony a waffle party because like the whole like weird paper machet head danced thing seemed like it was supposed to turn into something more i almost feel like that was going to become some kind of weird sex ritual or something if it had been allowed to continue i'm surprised when he bugged off that that didn't alert Milchick right away. Yeah. I didn't say something to him. Yeah. And I don't know if it's just because it's like after hours and they really are just

Starting point is 00:39:43 not that well-staffed or something like that, but you feel like the dancers would be brief to sound some alarm. There's a couple of moments that I would call it a nitpick, but particularly the book. The fact that they brought the book there, Milchick left it out and he never questioned it of like where did this book go? And it's like addressed to mark in it. yeah that is something unless they like explain that away they wanted to happen and they let us know later yeah but that that's a detail that i really feel like especially as you've got a no milk chick that would not have just been dropped or been disregarded you know he like he he he left

Starting point is 00:40:20 it out on a table and he has to know he did that it just left it out in the open i almost feel like again if it never comes back i almost feel like it would have been maybe more convincing to have someone like toss it in a waste paper basket yeah maybe mark walks by happens to see it or something like that but yeah it does seem like this was even though they don't count on the employees wandering around and finding shit it does seem like conspicuously

Starting point is 00:40:45 left out it's crazy how you could be a mom and not deal with postpartum depression yeah not even have to deal with the birthing process at all insane just like the complete and utter avoidance of pain well yeah I really

Starting point is 00:41:00 I really loved it I thought this was great I think I see the hype I think it lives up to the hype. Sure does. And I can't wait to see season two and then be pissed to have to have to wait for season three. Yes, finally we get to join everyone in righteous indignation. Hopefully this one's a shit ton of a war is because that would boost these views.

Starting point is 00:41:19 Definitely. The time of filming this, we haven't posted a single one. Yeah, we have no idea if we're just like, we're committed to this. We don't even know if they're going to do well. We're committed to it. Let's get milk chicken at me. Let's just see what happens. Anyway, what was your guys' reactions to a lot of these reveals?

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