The Reel Rejects - ORPHAN (2009) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH ESTHER! Orphan Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Orphan Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Spoiler Review, & Ending Explained for the 2009 Horror Movie starring Vera Farmiga (The Conjuring), Peter Sarsgaard, & Isabelle Fuhrman as Esther (Orphan First Kill) in a movie produced by Leonardo DiCaprio from director Jaume Collet-Serra who did The Shallows, Black Adam, Unknown, & House Of Wax. Greg Alba & Roxy Striar watch and react to the best movie clips / scariest scenes such as Esther is 33 Years Old, Dinner Scene, Going Somewhere Kate, I Have A Special Surprise For You Mommy, What Did You, Gothic White Chick, Playground, Piano scene, Esther's Panic Attack, Esther's Secret, & MORE. #Orphan #moviereaction #firsttimewatching #VeraFarmiga #firsttimewatchingmoviereaction #horror #scary #Spooky #trynottogetscared #creepy  Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Aparrel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG On INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, yeah. Roxy Stryor, welcome back. I think we are the first new channel in the movie, I mean, new channel and movie, and here I was thinking I was going to make the intro more efficient than you. What are you? What did you just say? How are you?

Just to answer the question. How am? I am, stay golden pony boy. That, what's that from? Outsiders. Yes. I read it. I didn't see it, but it was in the book. I read literate.

Oh, you're a genius. All right, well, today we are watching Orphan. But do you have an orphan joke? You got jokes about orphans? Yeah, well, I'm part of the DPC and so are you, which is the Dead Parent Club. But we do have one, but they're the president of the club. We're only vice president. Yeah. How are you, Greg?

This is a great 2024 kickoff video. I'm really excited if we can do the DPC right at the top of this. Hey, they should leave a like on the video. Shouldn't they, Roxy? Especially at their DPC. You got to support other DPC members. DPC's in the comments. Subscribe, click the notification.

We'll get notified when Roxy has another video up on this channel. She's going to be doing so many now. Too many. Also, thank you to prepper for how to us edit down these highlights. You guys rock pulling through that to watch the longest for your own copy of Orphan. Ezville for Super Sex Rejects over at our Patreon page. And over there, John and I cover several things exclusively with highlights and watch longs included. You ready to get the fear on.

You didn't need notes at all. No, I didn't need notes at all. I've been doing this forever. You knew it all in the noggin. It's all in the noggin. Very good at this, Greg. I appreciate it. Thanks.

Orphan has no successors? Successes no orphan. Failure is an orphan. but success has many parents That's the quote that I've been trying to think of For the last two minutes Let's do it It's not over Greg

It's not there's a sequel Always the orphan Always the orphan Never the bride They should do it an orphan four Called orphan forever Huh Two orphan two four

Serious To serious Yeah, what? That's kind of... Oh my gosh, movie over? What the hell? Yo, Max, you got a weird service. What the...

This shit just happened here. We got to see if there's a post-credit scene. Pale polish. DiCaprio produced it. That's the only thing I heard about this movie for years. Is that what? It was that Leonardo DiCaprio produced this movie. I didn't know Vera Formiga and Peter Sarasgar were in this movie until moments before we filmed this movie.

How did you find out then? Because I saw it when I was loading this, that would they were. John Amin? Yeah. Good score? It's waited out, Roxy. Wait it out. Wait it out.

Not enough Margo Martindale. No. This made you like Peter better? He's all right. There's just something about him that it's just, I don't know what it is. Personal vendetta? I can't quite pinpoint it.

I get like, he's just always kind of. I'm irritated me. I don't know what it is. You don't have that with any actor. You don't have to name them. Yeah, I do. Anne Hathaway. And Hathaway just kind of gets into your skin. I kind of feel bad about it, too, because she's so good. That's how I feel about Peter Sarsgaard. I'm like, he's really good. There's just something about him that really irritates me. Yeah. But I feel bad, too, because, like, that's not nice. I'm sure Ann Hathaway is lovely. I know. I think she's great. But I think a lot of people feel that way about her. A lot of people do. It just irks me

sometimes do i get it all right with music all right all right hey guys listen if you were listening to us on apple or spotify we just watched orphan i'm joined with roxy strayer who was in a great mood i can tell look at this joy i see you did this to me this is the craziest part of the whole movie you obviously wrote it I didn't. I knew exactly how this was going to play out. Which is the craziest part because you wrote this movie and then you made me watch it and pretended like that's not what happened. I mean, I've seen so many psychological horror dramas that the second it was like bottle. I just couldn't believe that you knew they were, she was trying to hook up with him.

It was pretty obvious. Not to me, bro, because my mind doesn't go there. It was pretty. I thought it was more creepy when I think the movie played it a little safe. With 33-year-old. I felt like it got... Okay. Hold on a second.

Can you scoot you over to your left a little bit? Is it because you were about to say some pet-o-shit? No, the frame's not good. We are not center-framed here. I'm going to slightly scoot you in here. But you told me to go left. I know, but you move too far left. Roxy, please.

There's no time to argue with the great... Greg Elba. It is 2024 now. Oh, you did write this famous movie. I did write it. Okay. What are I going to say? Oh, yeah. See this over there? The H&M back? No, no, no, no. In the box here.

No. That to be installed here is a spot for the keyboard. I can't see it. Because I know you're going to be like, oh, what did this made? Who did the voodoo? And I'm going to have to be like. Oh, okay. Do you hate me?

I bring you here. Do you despise me? Okay, but I am about to do that to you. So, like, I'm telling you we need to look up if anybody based on the true story. Are we really for sure doing this? Okay. We got to know. Well, then I'm not going to attach it.

Yeah, but what about, okay, yeah. The very minimal. I could put this on my lap. That's for me. It's for me. It's for me because I have this. You don't know how to like... But I have this. Like a keyboard?

Yeah, you're not the best. Well, we'll see. I am woman, so how do I keyboard? And unfortunately, I actually am not the best of this. I have a feeling. Okay, so what's the internet look like? What are we looking up? Guys, if you listen to Apple and Spotify,

Roxy is currently looking for a web browser on the computer. And she doesn't realize we are currently already on a web browser. The web browser is right on screen. Okay. No, that's good. That's good. Okay. Not now. Not now.

Okay. So is the orphan based on a true story? Okay. Spelt a few things wrong there. While, whilst looking at the keyboard typing, but yeah, well, we could do. Because I can't, I'm blind as a bat, so I can't see that far, and this keyboard is weird. Yeah, it's the keyboard. Well, it's big.

Okay, so the orphan is bait. I'll read it for you since you can't read, and you don't know how to zoom in, I'm assuming. Do you know how to zoom in? No, it's not how it works. The movie orphan. It's like, it's command. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, you learned.

You did it. The movie orphan is based on a true story about Barb Brooks. Barbara Barbara Barbara Barbara Scrolova who posed a 12-year-old girl named Anika in the Czech Republic Barbara Barbara lies and manipulation led to her being taken in by a woman named Clara and who subjected her own children to horrific abuse okay but it wasn't like this story it's in spite of it no I'm saying it's look at her that's okay that's crazy that's crazy yeah she literally looks 12 um That's a crazy story. So wait a minute. But then all this shit didn't go down, though. Like they totally... It's more twisted.

It's a real-life story. Greg. How true is this? I don't know. Are we about to have our minds blown right now? It blows my mind that it's even like any part of this. I mean, I could totally believe that someone with this condition would pull some shit. Okay.

Okay. I didn't realize this true. I thought the movie was kind of chickening out on me. Have you ever seen the movie? orphan or it's prequel orphan first kill okay but we might want to watch we might want to watch if you haven't considered this some major spoiler territory orphanacy for which one i don't know gregg i haven't read the article have you seen me if you haven't okay all right okay i think we could read it go ahead that's true the real story uh okay barbara uh scroll out a little

more scroll okay stop stop okay barbara was born with hypo to too yep uh so she met clara in the check republic her story about being a 12-year-old girl named anica certainly seemed plausible as of her story about fleeing from a violent group home the single mother of two took barbara anica home posing anna where she lived with her children her sister katrina she treated her like a family right away with the intention of adopting her, Anna could claim to be extremely sick, require multiple doctor appointments, but were curiously would only allow Katerina to take her. As it turned out, the pair were involved in a cult called the Grail movement. This is crazier.

A group that follows the teachings of a 19th century mystic from Germany, and Barbara's father was head of the Czech branch of the movement at the time. Wow, this is like a totally different story to keep up the charade. Katarina wrote notes about Attica's so-called treatment acting as her doctor. Over time, Barbara persuaded Clara that her problems were all due to her two children and that they should be abused and they were most horrifically. Okay, wow. Okay. Look, before we, I don't think we need to dive into, we can do a whole video about this some other time because, yeah, this gets like really.

I am just saying it. You didn't know, and I brought value today. You did. You brought a lot of value because that is crazier and actually worse from what I previewed. That's wild. Yeah, this... Although it doesn't seem like any of the sexual stuff went down. Some other stuff did according to what I previewed.

What? Some other stuff did. What I previewed? No, what I previewed on the article involving the brothers. Like in your eyes just now without reading out loud? Yeah, I would quickly skim some of the bars of this. It was like, we shouldn't touch on this right now. Oh, oh.

Yeah. Because it looks like it gets worse than what happens in the movie. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Dang, I thought the movie was chickening out by making her a 33-year-old. I was more like, a bold move movie. Well, I was having this, and this is off topic, but on topic, like, this conversation the other day. So say she wasn't a serial killer, right? Say she was just a 33-year-old who looked like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this really happens to people in real life, and then they grow up and they look like kids. And then they get... Like Lucy Hale. And no, not like Lucy Hale, like this real thing. And they get married to... I can pull up the girl. She looks about 12.

but she is in her late 20s and she is with this guy who's in his late 30s and it's like that like is that petto behavior to be with somebody who looks like a child not if you

know they're not a child but like why are you attracted to them because of who they are I don't know I don't know how to put my mind is that I know so I'm saying not that I feel bad for Esther but Esther probably wants to have like a life and can't because nobody looks at her like an adult but you can't be murdering people no bottom line in this movie I'm not talking about real life yeah all right we'll talk about the movie I'm saying like you this orphan girl clearly was messed up definitely clearly Esther had problems I told you was an older person name but she you did something that

You and I both believe more in nurture versus nurture than nature, which means that probably she had a really messed up life before she did this. But now you're 33, so you have to do better. So you hate her. And I'm really glad they made her 33. I didn't think it was a cop out at all because I felt bad for her because she was a child. And then I had zero remorse or bad feelings for her because she's an adult. See, it relieves your.

Yes, my guilt. Your feeling. Yep, exactly. And I, but I, but I, I kind of like, I feel like if this was some independent movie, they would have kept her as a kid. No. Just to, just to, if it was like Anna Pura or A-24. That's so much worse. Exactly.

To drive home the creepiness of it. And to drive home the horrific side. Because it, it removed some, it's weird. Like, I would surprise it based on a true story. I'm not surprised based on a true story. I'm saying, like, like, here no, there's a true thing that happened. What surprised. me about I know you want to say something what do you want to say no I don't as you did the thing

I heard the breath come out and you put your hand over your mouth and I was like she wants to say something I was just listening to me and I found myself being like this rude I should let her talk well yeah I was just listening to what you were saying because it's what were we saying what was I don't remember what I was saying you were talking about them alleviated us and if it was a 824 movie and then you were going into something else about that yeah i don't know uh i i mean because like okay the like the true story they were saying i'm like that sounds like a movie in and of itself because normally you hear the true story and it's and it's dialed back like the true story is usually not as bad yeah and and and the true story is fears off in a

completely different direction but it's also i could see the foundation being similar enough, whereas this, they took the horror movie tale that we've heard before. Like, um, uh, God, it is hard for me to think of some titles right now, because sometimes it's not, sometimes it's just like, orphans. Orphans were a biological kid who's born and he's like Satan child or something, right? Like, what was that movie, um, that it wasn't Superman, but it was gone bright burn or something? Bright burn. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, like, it's kind of a, it's, it's a horror movie. movie trope of like creepy child we have in our home you know yeah there you go you figured it out you figured out how to use the internet I know computer good so um what are we looking out I'm gonna look up movies with orphans to help you no thanks movies with orphans yeah that's literally I thought that'd be helpful I mean you may be specified a little bit like no like like horror movies that they're Hugo you go is not Annie yeah yeah Oh, Shirley Temple Stoway. I love that movie.

You are just looking up movies with orphans. These are not like horror movies. Oliver, Oliver, never before has a boy wanted more. Typing creepy horror movie children. Lyon. All mine to give. Typing creepy horror movie children. Okay. Seems like a different thing.

Megan. It's not. It's actually way more in tune with what we are actually talking about than looking up random movies with orphans. That's what you would say. You said there's a lot of orphans. Yeah, I'm talking about the trope of, of, like, horror movie children. It's weird that when you wrote this movie, you didn't look this up already.

Of course not. Children of the corn, hide and seek, and village of the children. The exorcist's kid reminded me of her, actually. In some ways, yeah. Which I just saw for the first time. There was one with Sam Rockwell. where they have like creepy I'm used to it being like

Satan baby stuff look bottom line look the story Joshua is what it is spooky child terrorizes family movie it's called Joshua

I'm so caught up and other things I'm not getting I'm listening to you I was helping make your point I'm distracted oh no what did you think of the movie Is Vera Formiga in that one, too?

It's Sam Rockwell. Do you want to go look it up? Oh, I got to know now. Shit, man. What have you done? Just go to history. Go to the history. I can't see where it says history.

Go to the very top. Go to the top bar. Go where it says history. I can't see it. Yeah. One to the left. Left. Yeah, there you go.

And then go to Joshua. Right there, the very top. The top one? Yeah, yeah. You can read these words. Yeah, I can't have glasses on. It's crazy. She is in that movie.

creepy child you gotta be kidding me wow this is her this is her genre okay she's very good and sam rockwell is very good yeah i should watch this movie yeah damn that's that's wild oh i did want to see this little girl that plays what we will talk about the movie i want to see the little girl that plays short enough god damn it with this mouse the little girl that plays what the fuck was this movie called megan no what is this move orphan orphaned

yeah you're at the orphan there you or fobn oh I thought it was the orphan it's just orphan yeah it's just orphan oh I made that point at the beginning and you're correct one's gonna be called it be called the orphan so who is this actress she was stellar

I know it wouldn't be weird to then go see her in some kind of high school like CW type show because I mean And she'd be a kid. Okay, Isabella. She's like a full-blown adult. Now, this was in 2009.

Okay, she was in orphan at the age of 10. Damn, she was 10 years old and doing that? She's very good. I thought she was like 14, 15. I would like to see her in a lot of other things. Oh, Hunger Games. She was clove. Interesting.

I don't remember that. That's very impressive. Yeah, very impressive. Very impressive stuff. Very impressive. I don't think we've... Do you think it was impressive? I think it was impressive.

I feel like if there's a little thing we could say very impressive. So you thought the movie was good. I did. Yeah. Like they took... It was like the structure became insanely predictable like right away. Once we found out of... For you?

No, no, no, but you got it too. Like once it was like, okay, once it was recovering alcoholic and and or someone who was like, who could go down the bottle again and they're going to adopt of overcoming trauma of the miscarriage. It was like, okay, they're going to adopt the child And then creepy things are going to be happening And then Once things are going bad for them

Along the journey of having creepy child She's going to pick up the bottle again Yep You pin him on And then very early on It was like, okay, yeah Then she's going to try to seduce it down That I didn't pick up on

I never thought she was going to try to seduce the dad It was going down I wasn't sure Because it was a Warner Brothers movie That like would they do that I thought she was going to try to get rid of the mom because she just didn't want, she just wanted to have the dad. I did not know about the seduction part. That was like, I just refused to believe it all time, despite the evidence.

Once I started realizing it was a psychological film and not a supernatural one, because I wasn't sure if it was going to be like supernatural kid horror because that's usually what they do with the kid ones is like their kid horror. I'm not kid horror. They're supernatural horrors. And yeah, no, I set the sentence right. This is the first time we filmed together on a Saturday afternoon and now you're just to anyone. No, this is Mrs. Greg on a Saturday afternoon.

So the, God damn it, I keep losing my chance. First time of supernatural horror? No, I said that right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, once I realized that, then suddenly some stuff started becoming a little bit predictable in terms of plot mechanics.

But what I loved about it was the attention to detail on the nuances of what was going on with these characters like having history with what occurred between the parents and between the miscarriage and and the and the actual adoption and also the gray area too of the grief of the miscarriage like that's not something you often see in movies of mourning the loss of that life you know so you feel like even though it did play on a lot of horror tropes just have those few twists made it stand out and be unique Yeah, I mean, like structurally at fault If you write down to the freaking she gets the call

Of the nick of time and the finale To get the big reveal about who Esther really is Like there's a lot that they did that felt that way But they like even with the sexuality with the pair Watching words here But even being A lot of movies will shy away from the sexuality of the parents And and and uh

When he took her on the counter Yeah yeah Damn Took her on the counter you know Oh well those are words that you won't get Yeah, it's true. But no, like a scene like that where they actually went really mature about it in graphic. And I'm kind of used to Hollywood putting a gloss over this where this had a little bit more of a grit that I like to see from a Warner Brothers produced film, if that makes sense.

Like a studio made movie. I mean, it was actually challenging to watch at times because of that. And I think that if it hadn't been, then it wouldn't have had the same effect on us and we wouldn't have thought it was as powerful a movie. it also killed the dad and debatably killed the son. I know he's alive. We don't know.

He was alive. They said he was alive. They said to him. He said the dad said to mom. Do you have a glitter or snot? Really? Snot? Yeah, it's not.

I have something on your nose. Is it the cracker I gave you earlier? How long has it been there? I don't know. I don't think he can see it on camera. Is it glitter or snot? It's definitely got now. I don't know what it was.

Oh, it's like a white spot. I see it. Is it a cracker? It looks like paint. Why would you have pain in that? I don't know. But that is what it looks like, right? Yeah, Vroxia a cracker earlier.

Polly want a cracker. Watch it. Wait, let's see if they can see. Yeah, does it look like it? I thought it was a snot spot. I was like, oh, man, maybe I should have told her about this. If I got you. I bet you had her all time.

I was just like, don't say anything. You'll embarrass her. If you say something. You knew it was there the whole time? No, I said it to tell him right now. Should I put it back on my nose? Like, what do I do with this pain? Huh.

Interesting. I don't know how I got there. No, me neither. I hope it was there from the very beginning and people were questioning it. Yeah, and that they didn't make it through to the end of the video. I can't watch because this freaking snot

was on this girl's face the whole time. Every time we cropped it on her. Anyway, yeah. Good job with the movie. So, look, we got, I think we get eight more minutes in here. and then we're good to go. So, Roxy gets some opinions. Okay.

I think that the acting was, like, essential in this movie to make it good. Oh, we were just talking about the son. I don't know. I don't feel confident the son lived because, remember when the dad came into the room and said to her, he's going to be fine, don't worry.

Right. I didn't know whether he's just appeasing her because she's in the hospital. Because what we know is that they said he, if we don't go in there, he'd go into cardiac arrest. And then they said that he was stable for a second. And they got a pulse.

They had a pulse. his neck was broken. They said before that that they didn't even know if he was going to be able to ever answer the questions. So it depends what you mean by like he might be

in a vegetative state. So just the reason My mind was dark. The reason I'm saying is because this movie was willing to kill one of its major characters and highly injure

if not kill the other along with injure another child. Like it really did go there with the injuries and the death and that's why at the end with Veriframiga's character and with and they killed

the orphan too. That's why I thought it was so bold too. Oh yeah yeah. Because we don't know and so the stakes are high because you don't know who's going to die. I wouldn't have been surprised if at the end the little girl died. You know? Because it's like this movie was

willing to. So genuinely when the little girl's out on the ice and Veriframiga is saying go back, go back. I'm like oh my God, are they about to kill off the youngest child? And I really like that about the movie because while I was I wasn't as

I was convinced that like Esther's not actually known you know what I'm not sure there was like only it was only until like moments before Esther finally descends to the ice where I was like okay Esther's gonna lose it was only like a few moments before we don't even know that Esther dies though that's true she'd be an ice creature which I could totally believe and I think that for most of the movie

I was here going you know what Esther could Esther could walk out on top Yeah, and everybody else could die. Yeah, Esther could totally win. Like, I felt like it became the most movie in the last 15. It was after the, may the Lord Jesus bless you. It was after the reveal of 33-year-old Esther when it started feeling the most like I'm watching a movie now.

Yeah, I get that. Well, there was a couple lines that I was like, ah. The movie wrote a good line. of, it always felt like a movie. That's why I always found it like fun because it was doing this thing where it was feeling like, okay, it's psychological trauma. We're dealing with real diseases and real types of manipulation forms and okay, we're exploring how children can also be little sociopaths. And the anxieties of grief, they were doing all these qualities that were thrust it onto the performances and then all the stuff about the affairs and trying

to amend a relationship and how to be a parent and the consequences that came from not taking care of yourself like they were doing all these things that i thought helped make it feel more rich and alive and that people can lie to their therapists and trick them exactly like because normally these movies are like a 90 minute and just 90 minutes of just kids standing around creepily and and and and and long drawn out shots that they sell as tension with some slick cool visuals is usually what these movies are and i felt like what they did was they they did a great job on selling you on the family drama the wonder of when they're first adopting even like making esther an appealing child to adopt like out of the kids you're like damn i would want the smart one why wouldn't you want

the smart one that was interesting from jump that she stayed upstairs though and didn't come down to the party and that he just stumbled upon them because it's like that's pure luck i mean she lured him kind of she 100% lured she was watching from the outside because he was going to the bathroom though like and she was planning it yeah she was but the fact that he did that it was lucky that she wanted to go inside and go to the bathroom yeah but i mean a lot of what esther does is like based off of like luck she's like the final destination death character that's why we liked it so that's why we liked it because this girl plays the domino effect i gotta tell you this makes me feel really powerful what that i love this thing this makes me feel buckled in and like i could tell you anything google had to offer that's it's it's it's bought to and it's meant to be there not attached to this thing in front of us that the audience can't see really yeah it's meant

to be attached to that yeah well I like it here because I feel like I could tell you all about the warfriend I could tell you up down center yeah you look also really comfortable you don't look trapped you don't look like a child that I don't feel trapped you don't look like a child in a booster seat

I look the same age as Esther you don't look like a super villain who's locked in some type of weird cage right now Mujah, ha, Ha, ha. Esther's actually my best friend. Do you like Peter Sarasgard? I did like him.

I thought he was a really good counter to Verifamiga, although frustrating at times, like, oh, how could you not see this? I kind of understood, you know, he adopted a child, and his wife has a history of these things, so he has reason to doubt. I thought he had a really good job in this.

I thought the kids were really impressive, too. Like, oftentimes, I think that the child actors just bring you out, especially when we're dealing with people of the caliber of like Vera Formiga again I know that she was only in a small part but Margo Martindale like when we're dealing with these Oscar Emmy winning worthy people

to have the kids be I'm super invested in them in their performances even the Max I thought she was so good but all three of the kids really really good job well usually in these films like it's one parent even if it's like there's a haunting in the house that or something that like the dad it's haunting of hill house no no not that that's like way too good that's way too deep and amazing uh talking about

more of the cliche ones like there's one with like katie homes i believe um there that's like either the dad's katy homes and guy pierce what the hell is that movie called and there's there's uh it's the trope usually goes the type that they think the dad's crazy but he's not or they think the mom's crazy and she's not so this movie went with the path of oh they think the mom's crazy, but she's not. And the reason why it became frustrating for me with the dad was because the movie was

doing such a good job at having conversations and a new... That's what it's called. Don't be afraid they're. The movie was doing such a good job at having conversations and nuances and further debates about stuff. Like the way they fleshed out stuff like, okay, we're doing the trope of like everyone thinks the mom's crazy,

but we as the audience, no, she's not crazy. But the way they were going about it with exploring it and the dialogue was like, It makes a lot of sense why they think the mom's, like, crazy. Yeah, because of what happened the last time because of finding the bottle and because of her in therapy sessions, they did a good job with that. What I wasn't finding believable with the dad was, I would get to a, I think it reached a certain point. There was a whole point where I was 100% feeling exactly what you were saying.

And maybe it was like, I don't know, somewhere around like the 80 minute mark, I suppose. like when they're in the ICU with their son and the freaking tree houses on fire and they're learning this information about look I was looking into her past and we can't find this thing I feel like the dad at a certain point had to be like maybe there is something up

with this Esther, even if he just believes it's a child, maybe there's something up with this child and you do have to start to wonder like I think there had to have been a little bit of a gray area with the dad of him going she's not my child. Like we did

It just adopted her, you know. One of the things that I was curious about because they made that choice where the treehouse is burning that they had the mom, his mom be there for that. Sure. So I was like, huh, that's interesting because if his mom hadn't been there, I thought maybe he would believe that Veriframiga's character actually on accident started the fire. Right. And that would be reason to once again not pin this on Esther. Exactly. But when she says your mom was there this time, I was like, oh, yeah.

so really what is his excuse this time finally to be like it's still not Esther because when she says it was either Esther or Daniel like exactly and he's and she says which one was it he said I don't know but at the same time it is a child that you're dealing with and she Vera Vermiga's character is almost too quick to pin it on her so it was both extremes that's fair that's fair I mean overall I think the I mean like the acting helps save so much of it I love the use of environments, the way they utilize, like, the house, the playgrounds, the overall setting of, you understood the distance of everywhere they were at. Like, the way they played, what I really liked is, like, they fleshed out a lot of familiarity in a way that was really impressive to me. It's the bottom line of it with, and it felt more adult and mature when I think a lot of times they would try to make this more PG-13.

And I appreciate the way they didn't shy away from, like the violence hits. It was R-rated, right? Oh, a thousand percent, man. There's no way you go away with like half of the... They said that half the bomb. That's true. The sexuality and the violence. It really hits.

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And I appreciated the maturity of that because even for a lot of R-rated horror movies from studio films, it'll still feel like glossy. I appreciate the maturity of us. We're very mature.

We're very, very mature. Very mature. So it's just like we talked about your snot-cracker. Yeah, well, I have a keyboard, because I'm mature. Yeah. Oh no, what I do?

What have you done? I don't know. All righty. Well, is there, okay, one last thing to look up, I promise. Can you just look up, uh, Jamie Colette, Sarah? Like, I want to know if he directed that shark movie. What shark movie? Yeah, right there.

You're not talking about 47 meters down, are you? No, no, no. I'm talking about the shallows. Yeah, right there, the shallows. Hmm. The shallows. That's a good movie. You haven't seen it?

No. Oh, that's good. I like Blakely. Ooh, I wonder if Tara's seen it. That'd be a good one to put you on for her. In the Shah, shallow. If we have recommendations for it, of course. In the Shah, shallow.

You haven't seen that one. It's really good. No, and I like her. She doesn't have a good Boston accent, but I do like her. I thought everybody would say body. And I was like, wow. Why would I say that? Because you say, does that have a good ba.

It's a good accent. And then the time froze for me. And I didn't let you. She doesn't have a good body. And then sit bottom. That would be the bitter statement. The flash right there. Like, what is she about to say?

They're like 10 body, perfect, perfect. All bodies are perfect, Greg. I would never. Ah, yeah. But what if someone looks 12 when they're really 33? Is that a perfect body? Then I wouldn't be attracted to them because I think that that's weird. But I do feel bad for them.

They deserve love. But I just could never be attracted. No matter what their mind was, if you look 12, I'm not attracted to you. Like Lucy. Do you know who Lucy Hale is? I know Lucy Hale is. I do. I want you to look at her and you tell me that you think she looks 12.

If you were to tell me she's playing a 12-year-old, I would be like, I see it. Like, what are you talking about? Okay. I mean, yeah, she's cool. She's like a full-blown adult. I know. She's really famous. Really famous.

for a 12 year old I mean she should look at 12 there she doesn't look 12 anywhere 12 year olds are dressed like that what that's very appropriate for a 12 year old in what way does she look 12 okay

Greg get us out of here all right guys well how old do you think lucy hale looks audience leave your thoughts down below is orphan first kill worth watching would you adopt if you started adopting

and then they started doing shit like this would you kick them to the curb Would you try to get a refund? Leave your thoughts down below. Guys, I'm Roxy Stryer. I'm Greg Alba. And we are the Real Rejects. Peace out.