The Reel Rejects - Reacting To Fantastic Four First Steps REACTIONS & James Gunn BIG DCU Reveals!!

Episode Date: July 20, 2025

Fantastic Four: First Steps Reactions have officially dropped, and the hype is building fast for Marvel's most anticipated Phase Six film! The cast includes Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards / Mister Fant...astic, Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm / Invisible Woman, Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm / Human Torch, Ebon Moss-Bachrach as Ben Grimm / The Thing, Julia Garner as Silver Surfer, and Ralph Ineson as Galactus. Reactions tease emotional stakes, bold family dynamics, stunning visuals, and major setup for Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars. Meanwhile, James Gunn appeared on Josh Horowitz’s Happy Sad Confused podcast and dropped massive DCU reveals about Superman (David Corenswet), Batman (The Brave and the Bold), Wonder Woman, and even deleted scenes from the upcoming Superman film. We also dive into Tom Holland’s recent Spider-Man 4 update, where he teased changes surrounding the direction of Spider-Man: Brand New Day, and how it could tie into both the MCU and Sony’s multiverse. This video covers everything: Fantastic Four cast & character breakdowns, multiverse setup, Superman DCU news, Batman casting speculation, Spider-Man updates, and what it all means for the future of Marvel and DC! Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Probably we probably are actually just like we're not live at our end, but but it's probably gonna be live recording Yeah, all right. Well, we should say spoilers for what have we seen that? No, no, actually, we're up to date. Never mind on YouTube up here. Cool. Maybe now, maybe now, maybe now this is when the playback sees us. Starts now? I don't know. I still haven't, after all these years,
Starting point is 00:00:33 I still don't know when the playback starts. What is live? Are we live? We're live. Hey, welcome to the best damn movie news show on the planet weekly planet Is that another show yes, do different podcast No, anyway guys, welcome to the real rejects podcasts a live stream with coy and myself
Starting point is 00:00:58 We we attempted this a couple of weeks ago and did not go according to plan We have hired pros to come in really help us out John of course went to town a lot more as well, and we figured we owe it to those who watch us To do the live stream properly. I think it's like 24 25. I think it's another big moment big episode Yeah, yeah, I tried to do it at 22. It worked out I think that was three weeks ago. We did like a billion podcast for Superman, but we haven't done one that's like And talk with koi Greg. Yeah, what is the Greg koi show like without the stress of Superman Paul? Yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:01:37 Couple of housekeeping I want to mention really quick Please leave a like if you are in this stream leaving a like will help us out on the playbacks like if you're in this stream, leaving a like will help us out on the playbacks. Very different algorithm wise with live streams and our channel in particular is not used to producing live streams. So playbacks are a little bit harder to get a little more traction. And how we're going to do this one this time is like, of course, super chat stream labs, all of that is more than welcome. And thank you my
Starting point is 00:02:01 god. Last week, we did a Superman spoiler talk. Yeah, so many like there were five hours. You guys rock. Yeah. I was here for to hear here for two. I didn't even know I was here sitting here on our four until Roxy told me that time like what it's almost five hours. Yeah, I finished the next thing I had to do. You guys were still alive.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Like I went all the way to my second location and then came over here. So thank you guys for keeping us busy. We don't end the stream without going through every Super Chat and stream lab. But what we're going to do today is a little bit of a different structure. We are going to mainly, we're going to do the stories that we want to cover, which is we're going to react to. I haven't read any of these yet. I had John pull it up. The Fantastic Four social media reactions, which is great. Yeah, because they moved it up a week week they moved it up in the moment of that's that that is almost unprecedented Like it doesn't happen very often. That is a good sign because it was supposed to release Monday Yeah, and that to me was a bad
Starting point is 00:02:58 The fact that they released it now yeah shows like oh they have must have a lot of faith in this and these reactions must Be good So I was like, let's talk about this and and then James Gunn was on the Josh Horowitz podcast really great interview and they talked significantly about You know some behind-the-scenes stuff and some stuff about the future of the DCU And I think there's a lot of good stuff to break down speaking of which I was just on the DC Studios podcast Brandon Davis, thanks to this guy Koi genre for inviting me on that was fun And I'm really I'm really happy that episode that Roundtable was I had such a blast doing it and it translated. I watched it back. Oh, you did yeah, I haven't seen it yet
Starting point is 00:03:31 I watch yeah, cuz it like it's so different on the TV like there's something really it feels really special to have a show that You have a game right? It's on HBO Max the subscription service Yeah, I forgot that you can watch it on YouTube too, but I like feeling fancy So I go like HBO, scroll past the Penguin. There's the show. I've been watching Veep on HBO Max. I should watch it.
Starting point is 00:03:50 You can just click over. I should watch myself now. You made a thumbnail before I did. I've still never been in a thumbnail. Thanks. Yeah, that is true. Oh, I know. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:03:59 But I'm very happy to see you guys on HBO. One day I'll see me on HBO. Yes, so anyway, and then you're gonna talk about that, but we and so here's what I'll say is that we're gonna go through our stories and Do our show as normal and then afterwards we're gonna go to the super chats and stream labs for whatever does come in So thank you guys who already contributed and we're gonna focus on whatever whatever you guys wanna ask us for the Q&A portion. And that's the best way, guaranteed, to have your question or comment read on air.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Now, let's get into action, Koi. We'll need John's help on this. John? John, let's talk about the fantastic four early reactions. You wanna start reading them off to us, John? Absolutely. I genuinely have not read or heard Any of this yet? So that's why we put reacting to in the title because I wanted to
Starting point is 00:04:52 Reaction to want to capture on air. I only know Brandon's thoughts. I was gonna say he texted me one of his tweets He texted and see his tweet, but he texted me a sentence that he said oh, yeah, okay I actually watched his like two minutes. Oh, I Committed I was like I want to know one person's opinion and brain okay I like I wanted to know if I should be as hyped as I feel yeah I won't reveal what he said to me, so I want to I'll tell you if his tweet lens Your ass up. Oh got an interview with Brandon Davis coming up tomorrow by the way The rapture ass out. Oh got an interview with Brandon Davis going up tomorrow by the way It's a really deep dive vulnerable conversation. I will listen to it back I think especially like for the thing I was telling them. I hope more men listen to this conversation is messaging
Starting point is 00:05:34 What we got John? What's the first one? All right, you're gonna be the real ones of nerddom. Okay, so we got John got a camera I got a camera. Hi gang Yes, fantastic for first steps is visually one of the best things Marvel has ever made Parts feel like interstellar and demand IMAX. Who's that? This is Brandon Davis? Oh that is Brandon Davis, okay? Galactus is awesome silver server looks really really good VFX were often Immaculate cosmically and on earth Matt Shakman dropped a visual Fiest Wow and on earth, Matt Shaqman dropped a visual Fiest. Wow. Strong high praise.
Starting point is 00:06:07 That sounds very similar to what he texted me. What he said in the video was that it is amongst the greatest visuals he's seen. And then he then he gave a little caveat of like recency bias. I need to relook it like, you know, guardians and the other visual spectacles. But it might be his favorite visuals in the entirety of the MCU. And that, to me, tracks with what what Matt Shakman seems to be showing what doesn't is I when I saw the Silver Surfer I was like, huh? The hair doesn't look as good in movement as it does in a comic
Starting point is 00:06:35 So I'm hoping they worked on that because that was what like two months ago I think we got that trailer with the first Silver Surfer So maybe that's changed but I I've heard nothing but great things about Galactus and this continues to get me excited I've heard the I imagine the scope of it on IMAX. Did they watch it on IMAX? I think so I hope we do. Can you give it back to me again one more time John? Absolutely, it's different when I don't have it in front. I thought I could just listen Fantastic first steps is visually one of the best things Marvel has ever made parts feel like in a surely Wow Marvel has ever made parts feel like initially wow and demand I max
Starting point is 00:07:11 Galactus is awesome silver surfer looks really really good VFX were often as macula so good to hear Cosmically and on earth You don't I think it's a curse of like where we've gotten with visual effects is when they're bad you notice them when they're great You don't and when they're Bad you hear about it. They're great. You rarely you're like, oh good They made a movie like they don't they don't get the love they deserve and there's so many visual effects people name and realize Your visual effects. I trust Brandon's opinion and I think he's a very honest guy We don't always see eye to eye. Of course, I know who the hell would you ever see always see eye to eye? Yeah, but yeah, this lines up with this text message to me and I and to me That's like cool because you would tell me like you'd be even more honest
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah, I'm glad that he really liked it and to me It's a sign to that Marvel is indeed listening The VFX thing has been one of the biggest complaints about the MCU in the last few years, hasn't it? Well in the movies looking the same I think the movies having like a neutral color palette and kind of subdued This looks like an Alex Ross painting in a lot of ways I'll say I watch John and I watched like two 30 second clips that they released. Yeah, I've stopped. Yeah, they're spoiling everything I won't say what's in it. Okay. Thank you. So I watched these two 30 second clips and
Starting point is 00:08:20 I was so Taken it back by how amazing the art design was. You know, you can see cool trailers. And art design referring to literally the whole aesthetic of the sets, the backgrounds, the costumes. It really does feel like you're stepping into a world. And they're two very different clips
Starting point is 00:08:40 with two very different tones. And one had more of the lighthearted feel and the other had so much tension to it. And then there was one that was like a slightly extended trailer that tells you what Galactus' motivation is. And that one too, with a lot of tension in it. And I was surprised by it and a big part of it
Starting point is 00:09:00 is because the look of it does look really cool and it's been a long time since we've said that about I think guardians three was last time The visuals yeah, and that's a while now. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm excited for it. I really am it's starting to feel like an event like I've been saying a while like I miss that feeling Of a Marvel summer event and now that we're a week out. I'm starting to get to that point I'm like, oh, I'm seeing a month like it feels like exciting and and I I'm worried about seeing any more footage because it's so close And I know there's that point where they're like put it all out there We need to get butts and seats
Starting point is 00:09:32 So I'm really afraid of the marketing but I'm really excited for people to be excited about the marketing So I'm hoping hoping it does numbers I think the clips have been doing a better job on the marketing than the trailers Let's read more about the reacting of the comments first. All right, let's read more about the reacting of the comments first Let's read more about the reacting of the comments. These are words words I didn't just start speaking 15 minutes ago in real life That's my trick yeah, I was in the car I was doing like I haven't spoken at all today. I actively like to rap God or like really loud songs to get it all
Starting point is 00:10:05 Sometimes I rhyme to try to get my brain warmed up. Yeah. Yeah, I require John Godbrain is fire and all cylinders Alrighty we got from at Harper's Media George McKay at Harper's Media George McKay Fantastic for quite possibly the best Marvel Studios film ever released Fantastic Four, quite possibly the best Marvel Studios film ever released. Absolutely loaded with talent and standout performances from Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn. If you thought the MCU died with- Really? Joseph Quinn, huh? Okay. So they say. If you thought the MCU died with Endgame, think again.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Oh God. Thoughtfully crafted and easily a genre defining classic. I don't know this man, but they said all the buzzwords in game wasn't the end it's the best Marvel movie ever list actors they sure did say SEO repeat that back one last time little faster John just so we like fantastic four is a triumph of pitch perfect script I don't know I'm reading a different one sorry I There we go Fantastic four quite possibly the best Marvel Studios film ever released absolutely loaded with talent and standout performances from Vanessa Kirby and Joseph Quinn
Starting point is 00:11:11 If you thought the MCU died with endgame think again thoughtfully crafted and easily a genre defining classic I'm kind of sick of this narrative. They didn't say That I could've written that I haven't seen it It's more of the best movies since Endgame Thing, which is kind of a cliche thing to say. Thunderbolts really made me aware of how much that was like, ignoring so much greatness. Like when everybody was like
Starting point is 00:11:34 best since Endgame, I was like, yeah, but we've had No Way Home, we've had Guardians 3, we've had Shang-Chi, we've had not to say Thunderbolts isn't better or worse than those, but to ignore them completely, which feels like every time there's a new thing Endgame was amazing, but it isn't the greatest superhero movie of all time And I get that it is the end of a phase and an era
Starting point is 00:11:51 But it is odd that so much good has come since that is just like that's the weird bar And yeah, and they're acting like no way home wasn't truly event cinema I I think that's the greatest example of non-recency bias. I think as soon as Endgame, I mean as soon as No Way Home came out, it had a week of like, oh my god, and then like three weeks later, but it's like, I hated that actually, and that's only grown weirdly, but I love No Way Home.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Well, back to the Fantastic Four side of it, they're highlighting Joseph Quinn and Vanessa Kirby's performance in this one? Correct. It's nice to hear that about Joseph Quinn and Vanessa Kirby's performance in this one, correct? It's nice to hear that about Joseph Quinn has all agree when I saw a clip it was the dinner scene that they've been showing in the trailers a lot and Since I have been I've been hopping between the run that you recommended from 22 and 2. Oh, yeah the Ryan North run Yeah, I'm only on issue for that but I'm but I've been really dive I'm really deep into the Hickman run. Actually, they're very different.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Very different, but I'm loving the Hickman run a lot. I've been finding, I just wanna keep going. Super heady. I like how intellectually stimulating it is. And I like how Ryan North's is like a space adventure. At the same time, even though Matt Shackman, that's the right director, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Matt Shackman is said that so much of his inspiration was from there. I still don't fully correlate the personality dynamics of what I'm seeing in the pages Hickman is so not this read especially Like I do not feel a moment of Pedro Pascal in Hickman's I don't feel it with Johnny Storm No, John, I don't feel like Joseph. I haven't seen a single moment of Joseph Quinn's performance That feels like Johnny Storm to me. Yeah. Yeah any era, but I'm looking forward to it but what I love though what I said when I was watching it is The choices feel so purposeful that it's and then you can still feel that there is a passionate direction behind the camera
Starting point is 00:13:36 Great actor and because of that I'm like Oh, I'm able to I felt myself quickly being able to separate myself from what it's like from what I've been reading in the comics at least Yeah, so I'm looking it seems like the choices that they're making are to better serve the film that they are wanting to tell I really like him as an actor I really like him as someone that goes to cons and seems to have a lot of Respect and appreciation for fans all the things I want out of an actor to play a Marvel character. I Just don't think he's this Marvel character So I'm still very excited to be proven wrong,
Starting point is 00:14:07 because I have yet to see a moment that I was like, that's Johnny Storm. I've been like, that's a great actor in a Marvel movie that turns into fire. How have you been feeling about the, no one's highlighted the theme, we're only two minutes. Yeah, to me, Eben is the highlight for casting,
Starting point is 00:14:20 and then Vanessa, like I'm really excited to see what she, I think she's gonna be a great Sue Storm, but Eben is impossibly good casting. OK, so let's move on to the next one. What do we got? We got at upper upper upland. There we go. Name is just for Fantastic Four is a triumph, a pitch perfect script backed by great performances, particularly from Pedro Pascal
Starting point is 00:14:42 turns what could be a simple superhero movie into a sharp commentary on our society that makes its nuance Palatable for those that may not take it at face value. Wow, that's a glowing ass review I like that subverting what the expectation will be I like that review say that one that more more time John Fantastic Four is a triumph a pitch-perfect script backed by great performances pitch-perfect script, huh? A pitch perfect script backed by great performances pitch perfect script, huh? Okay, particularly from Pedro Pascal turns what could be a simple superhero movie into a sharp commentary on our society that makes its nuance Palatable for those that may not take it at face value. What what sharp commentary on our society? Do you think they'd be doing? I'm wondering like it's about the word. I assume it'll be about the world ending. I think Galactus wins I
Starting point is 00:15:34 Would say maybe over consumerism like the destroying of a planet like a commentary on like the end of a world and how we don't See it coming kind of a less Beating you over the head look up That movie so much, and it was just so heavy-handed. I watched it on a plane, so I loved it That's the Adam McKay Leonardo DiCaprio Jennifer Lawrence yeah, which is very much about why aren't you paying attention to the word? The fact of the world's dying. I think that's the way they'd go right I could see Galactus winning and I could see that being in commentary on the fact that we like are so epithetic about killing the planet Damn, that's actually a cool like allegorical way to do it That's what I would and then with the spoilers here with the Thunderbolts post credits
Starting point is 00:16:08 You know it makes sense why they want to kind of leave They're kind of like in a Krypton situation right and they're jettisoned into our world which is gonna have a different Downey Yeah, and the Fantastic Four are billionaires so they're able to build a spaceship They can escape the hell out of those only people that get to make it they've earned it my theory somehow Franklin Richards Is gonna help out I think Franklin rich I mean I think the first steps are gonna be first Richards is gonna help out I think Franklin rich I mean I think the first steps are gonna be first steps that saved them like I think his first steps are gonna be the thing that's Gonna be like Superman returns kid yeah
Starting point is 00:16:33 No, but Franklin canonically can handle like this type of event so I could see that happening but I do think there will be a lot of I Don't know looking at our society because when you do an else world type of thing when you have another Dimension another universe that's a great way to look at what we're doing right and wrong and so I could definitely see that tying into the overall metaphor hmm And they also mentioned Pedro Pascal which we haven't heard yet Apparently ebb and apparently the thing Apparently Ebon apparently the thing
Starting point is 00:17:07 And also just as a As a quick reminder for those who are listening who are just hopping in that you know This is a real rejects podcast. We don't normally do these live We will get to the super chats and stream labs once we are done going through our two main stories But we're taking our time. We're reacting to reactions because we haven't read them yet Yeah, and John's really holding down the fort here, so and also please leave a like on this video John what is next on here so far? They're all pretty positive Absolutely, we got ash crossin weighing in hey Fantastic fours visually stunning stylish another visual one, huh? I see that from the trailers
Starting point is 00:17:42 I didn't expect to hear it so highlighted. I mean it's the thing from the trailers. I'm most excited about personally yeah, okay Stylish self-contained and easy to jump into I had such a good time with this one the retrofuturism is such a snack My standout is Vanessa Kirby is Sue Storm babe. I will die for you. You are perfect She's gotta be the most ash cross and I like can hear her say these This is a good good tweet ash I think Vanessa Kirby is gonna be the standout I think casting wise ebbing is the most one-to-one for me I think Vanessa Kirby hasn't yet gotten to flex what she's capable of she's great and everything she does but as a lead as
Starting point is 00:18:19 The matriarch as sue I think there's a lot here I'm really happy to hear that and they've been the two who have been doing the most promotions Maybe I thought they'd leave more into joseph quinn. I mean she got pregnant for this. Yeah Kidding the way petro and her are so comfortable with each other I think he's like apparently social anxiety and and like he's calmed by people close to him is what i've heard So he could just like wrap his whole body around her every interview I would say that he's just like she's literally like piggyback, right? I would say Vanessa Kirby's husband is very very confident and comfortable in their relationship and with this
Starting point is 00:18:53 No, like on that comic-con panels a little handhold every time I see that it's just like cuddled up on her His legs wrapped around her head But like if it if it's if that's the comfort they have together. They're just so comfortable with each other. They're really like, maybe it could be part of the promotional, it could be part of the promotional tour of like an idea. It's working, we're talking about it. Like husband and wife, let's see how comfortable they are.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's getting discussion. It's that weird thing like when the camera's rolling, yeah it could be as intimate as you want, but then when it's not really like, you guys are like awfully intimate. When the camera's not really, you could be as intimate as what you want But then when there's not really like you guys are like awfully intimate when the camera is not really that Pedro's baby I just I mean I just think it's crazy the the first Mother I mean obviously there have been mothers in the MCU, but the first family and and that mother It's really special. I think just like the synchronicity that that she's doing this pregnant like this press story I made a joke about her getting pregnant for press but like I
Starting point is 00:19:47 I've always loved when a character that's known as a mother gets to be like that as a Main part of an arc like when spider-woman got pregnant They made like a whole her crime fighting with like a baby in her arc And then they did like her getting babysitters And then she hired porcupine who used to be a villain that like reformed to become the babysitter like just really cool mom stuff. And I think it's because I had a teen mom and like my mom took care of me as a single mother as a teenager for the first three years of my life. So like I love when not just women but moms are shown as a superpower. So I just I love that Vanessa Kirby who's playing this important mother
Starting point is 00:20:23 is pregnant and there's so something so beautiful about like birth and life and like the journey of being pregnant So it's that was what I'm so fascinated by in this press door is like Vanessa Kirby's growing a human Right now while doing press and I think it's so beautiful while we're as the mom Yeah Beautiful thing that is actually pretty cool And I could see from the trailers how so much of it is about how the lengths you would go to to protect your own child Yeah, there's such a protective and I just think it's a beautiful Coincidence in life that she got pregnant. I think with her first kid to like do this tour incredible incredible
Starting point is 00:20:57 I'm glad her and Pedro are having a kid breaking news But no one's had a lot of thing and I'll say when I'm reading both anytime I'm reading any fantastic for a comic. Yeah, the thing is my favorite to read always the it's been great He's the thing. It's like he's I don't know he's the guy So the fact that we're four in and we have maybe they just lump him into the visual effects side Hey, maybe but I thought Ed was gonna be like the highlight So did I especially the amount of emphasis on the trailer? Yeah, when I read the comics he is my favorite anytime. He generally he's my favorite one
Starting point is 00:21:28 He's my favorite of the actors cast except Paul Walter Hauser better the care. I haven't heard word of yet Where's the Paul Walter Hauser love Twitter? I love one tweet. That's just all about him. Yes, that'll be my tweet. What's the next one? We got all right next up we have Here's a quick one Brian Davids. I'm happy to report that Fantastic Four is good Pick your Brian Here I respect it Josh Wilding here's another one Nothing will prepare you for the Fantastic Four first steps Pedro Pascal is the perfect read but the entire cast shines Which includes thing and Paul Walter Hauser yeah does right by these characters it's funny moving gorgeous to look at and non-stop fantastic this is
Starting point is 00:22:14 Marvel Studios at its brilliant best really wow this is high praise this really does seem okay so from my ex we lost the feed part of the there we go there It is so we're back from my experience I mean you from your experience to whenever we go to these screenings depending on what screening it is the Publicist will want to know your first reactions, and then that's kind of how they gauge You know sometimes they send them to the producers the studio sometimes. They send them to the directors. But, you know, a lot of you can be as honest as you wanted them.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And this is so rare for them to release it this early. And now whatever hearing these. I see why. Yeah, because this is these were people who went because they're doing interviews. Right. They're doing the junket, I think, this week or maybe sooner. Maybe this weekend. You see, and that's a commonality. That's a norm Yeah, people have to really understand that that's like every how do you do an interview? Yeah, that's every single movie and not every single movie gets a social embargo release early Earlier than they planned calm. This is it says unusual. So the the praise to me
Starting point is 00:23:21 Must be it's so because the thing with early reactions praise to me must be. Because the thing with early reactions, it's very easy to chalk it. And maybe this could be this, this Iow gliding launch, it could be the same case as every movie too, where early reactions people are hyped and usually they're just like super positive
Starting point is 00:23:34 and you gotta take it with a grain of salt because we've seen it happen many times. People obviously point to like some movies that were not well received at first. This often in the comic book movies where the early reactions are great. I loved love and thunder the first time I saw it yeah well at the same time that's like he's the flash had that yeah BBS had that and then there's like polarizing more it was more polarizing than was led on by
Starting point is 00:23:55 early reactions and that's very common with these early reactions but this is so strong and so hot like so it's so clear on how high it is That when you give praise to this extent it doesn't sound like but what are you dancing around? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's the thing except for those? Sounds just hyper positive Yeah, and it's a lot of the usual buzzwords in some of the first ones But that the specificity has me excited the visuals exactly their performances. I think Gino's score is gonna a standout. We haven't heard a lot about that, but I assume that's gonna be a big pop Hmm has a beautiful score. It really is special. It does elevate those trailers. What else we got John?
Starting point is 00:24:35 fantastic score Frick you at Frick you Dio says fantastic four is a masterpiece the visual says fantastic for is a masterpiece the visual Yes, really dropping the M word okay visual effects and the score are a huge or standout Galactus is huge in IMAX. It's emotional hope it beats you off and doesn't stop That just sounds like ridiculous The end that sounds this is how real that sounds More time it doesn't that just sounds like ridiculous to me this the way the phrase is fantastic for is a masterpiece Okay, top of the top. All right got it. So effects and score are a huge standout Galactus is huge in IMAG This sounds like it sounds like a guy just said some shit
Starting point is 00:25:30 It's emotional gives you hope Galactus is big in IMAX of course he hits you off and doesn't This person did not see Maybe that's why the praise is so high cuz it beats you off Everyone came out of that movie refresh and so after it beats you off you're like I loved it so much I hope that person knows if that is a genuine tweet I hope I hope they know what they're saying when they say it beats you off. Yeah Not I could be saying I mean When they say it beats you off. Yeah
Starting point is 00:26:04 Could be saying I mean There's no other way that applies unless you're talking about like trying to beat up an assailant What's that? Who's this person their name is? Dio at is frick you look D. I don't know who you are I've never met or heard of you until today, but I would not want to sit next to you In a theater yeah, if you're you know feeling that level of beating off. I feel I is just ejaculating He's just out here trying to watch the movie here, and I got this distracting noise That's seen in Deadpool, but it's the thing hands instead. Just going to town. I'm gathering This is part of this users thing. I think okay, so that was not real because real often
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yes, I'm involves an element of auto pleasure in there. He got he got put into the rundown so good for him Little extra butter in the popcorn Got a few more if you want them yeah, of course Daniel Baptista A little extra butter in the popcorn for this guy. Way to go, man. Way to go. Way to go. Got a few more if you want them. Yeah, of course. Daniel Baptista. This is kind of a chonky boy. The Fantastic Four First Steps is inspiring.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And the definitive take on Marvel's first family. Matt Shaqman redefines a new era of Marvel with an adventure that is a cosmic storm of imagination and a future foundation for the MCU to build upon. I see what you did there. It's a film proudly rooted in the comics and the spirit of the 1960s, brought to life through gorgeous visuals
Starting point is 00:27:32 and incredible performances. Michael Giacchino's score is triumphant and easily his best work in the MCU. I mean, that was specific and like grandiose. That one feels more like an authentic, Oh my god. I'm so hype I don't know what to do with my fingers typing like I liked that because there was like narrowing in but the hype was like 11 So I mean I want to leave this movie changed that sounds awesome. They're talking about the cosmic side I feel like they'd be very Kirby
Starting point is 00:28:02 I feel like I've seen every set piece in the trailers Feel like it's gonna be very Kirby. I feel like I've seen every set piece in the trailers So I feel like I've seen act one two three already. Yeah, just the first two trailers Yes, we talked about that in the second really like maybe when they go to see Galactus and whatever there's probably Maybe Galactus has a ship and then you see more of the as of the trailers. We haven't seen a lot of Galactus No, we have I think that's smart. Oh, that's really smart That's why I've stopped watching the TV spots because I think silver surfers voice was enough For me to be like, oh hype Nothing else. Yeah, no new visuals. Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:30 But I haven't really gotten a sense of cosmic in the trailers I haven't either but that's very Kirby and this feels very Kirby and it's retrofuturism and and it's Well, it's like Alex Ross and Kirby are the two icons of visuals for fantastic four for me so if they can touch that All right Alex Ross did the art for the Hickman run, right? He did the covers. He's a painter. Got it Okay, I think he did the covers for the Hickman run. He's painting the current Ryan North covers Okay that painted that that's definitely him, but I don't remember who did Hickman I think that was those were Kirby was like the original. Yeah. Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:06 We got one from Shabazz Siddiqui the fantastic for first steps is extraordinary The score is pure magic the visuals are next level and the cast chemistry is electric. I love to hear it It's bold fresh and unlike anything Marvel's done before this is their next Masterpiece second one to say masterpiece. That one might be real. One might not be paid for. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And then Anthony Gagliardi says, the Fantastic Four first steps is simply fantastic. Marvel's first family shines with chemistry and charisma. Stan Lee would be proud of. Visually incredible, the Fantastic Four dazzle from start to finish Ben Grimm finally rings the heart finals so frequently his perfection and Max Ackman delivers one of the more oh yeah haven't heard much from about silver surfer so we'll get more on Monday yeah obviously it's gonna be more on Monday
Starting point is 00:30:02 these are just tweets because the premiere and screening comes out on Monday And then the review embargo Tuesday, yeah, so you know we'll see what that turns into Imagine there's channels who are already ready to not like it going in right now. I guess probably channels are made Yeah, there's probably channels who are ready to like it. We're gonna go in and like it like a woman saved something woke a pregnant woman. She couldn't move double woke and Yeah, the silver surfer got love Ben Grimm finally got love. Yeah, I'll talk about the cast and song That's what I wanted to hear more of was there a cast chemistry because that was one of our concerns the first family in That didn't feel like a family except for on the press tour there I started to understand more of the tone and vibe from the clip
Starting point is 00:30:41 That was one of the random things when I watched it like the 30 second one was like I was like, oh, okay, now I'm starting to see their chemistry. It's not, it's very different than what I imagined. I think when we hear chemistry, we often, we just like different emotions associated with it, but there's a bit of an oddity and quirkiness to their chemistry that I was enjoying. It's not the energy that I'd expect from Fantastic Four, because I do feel like what we've seen with a read and sue is a lot more subtle than their performances. Yeah and I don't associate the personalities as And so yeah, I think the The subtlety of performances with a crazy backdrop of cosmic retro 1960s future is gonna be an interesting balance
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah, yeah, but I mean hey, this is gonna be I'm excited to see something new I'm excited to see something new and I think Marvel's smart, like Thunderbolts is one of my favorite Marvel movies and then to do something completely different and I think this is going to be a great complimentary year. It's like if you think about it you have Superman as a retro- Oh those two are so simpatico. They're so, I mean Mr. Terrific, Mr. Fantastic. Yeah yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:42 They're literally analogs for each other and in a lot of ways they are a New really I mean once an obvious start of something new. Yeah So not a reboot but a re pivot Yeah pivot because multi verse getting at a full movie in that nurse feels like a new start. Yeah Yeah, so this could be a brand new and they need to have a new start It'd be a brand new day could be a brand New day for fantastic July 2026 All right. Well, that's it for the fantastic foresight. I mean, does this get you guys more excited? Are you more excited? I'm I've been
Starting point is 00:32:14 Cautiously excited. I think anytime I say anything cautious. I'm so I'm so always excited people like always not because of the caution I just I think I have the right to not be People like always not because of the caution. I just I think I have the right to not be Blindly excited about some of the cast if I'm concerned with backing in my experience the characters But this gives me hope that I'll be able to see through that I I just hope that the things that I love about the characters the the immutables about the characters do translate through and I Haven't felt that yet Translate through and I haven't felt that yet. Hmm. Hmm. Can I give you one more thing from these responses? Sure The plug named Jimmy in response to somebody and I won't say too much about what he's talking about But he did end this tweet by saying don't expect a quote superhero movie. Oh
Starting point is 00:32:56 They definitely lose them Galactus wins and Then he goes on to reveal the ending words like I think they I think they sacrifice something But I feel I don't feel like Galactus will win I feel like maybe those there's gonna be some sacrifice in the end though That causes them to leave their planet. Yeah, which would make sense of which is even more I mean, I mean Galactus would Every like maybe Galactus could take the planet. They said I don't know
Starting point is 00:33:24 That that's fun in itself the fact that we actually get to go what happens as opposed to like fill in the dust What it will be the ending of this because how would why would they be in our universe if they win? Yeah, or do they sacrifice they get to like maybe they save the planet by leaving like they do something, but they can't get back That way they're still heroes and but they're not they're trapped out of their own home Mm-hmm, and then they're stuck in our dirty earth Interesting cuz that earth looks dope. Yeah, they're gonna wish like I wish galactus swallowed this way. Yeah, why we here It's so scummy the I saw a headline. I have no idea what's in it I saw a headline that did say there's two post credit scenes doesn't surprise me I mean, that's kind of usually what they do one standard one's a funny one and one's a serious one
Starting point is 00:34:05 Is actually about the movie and one is setting up another thing yeah, yeah Wonder what it'll be something would do I assume some would do I mean He should be a bigger part But something with the whole movie. It's like they go out interdimensionally, and then he's just on the bottom of their ship like he He's kind of come with them to a flight and all right cool. We'll see we'll see we'll see yeah I've those were high praise. I am excited. I still have my concerns, but I am concernedly excited I'm really really excited to see it Monday. I really want that event feel to pay off mm-hmm And you're gonna be doing interviews for variety how to report my bed. So yeah, I'm confused. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah, the two big ones. Yeah, yeah the THR be on the carpet for THR and then see in the film So I'll do out of the theater and then my reveal be up the next day And then we're gonna do a bunch of stuff yeah We're gonna do like a video about the ending whatever it is then we'll do a spoiler review And you won't you'll be in comic-con so I'll be doing a spoiler review I believe with Aaron Alexander nice you guys gonna do a live thing like usual Yeah, so we'll have ours and then you'll guys. Oh, yeah, sweet Yeah, I can't be a comic on and I'm doing THR interviews at comic-con suddenly. Wow, just came together. Yeah slam now Are you feeling exhausted? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm real
Starting point is 00:35:17 My family being in town was so soul nourishing But you know when you're like hosting you kind of have that like somebody good to be good So I was in that mode for eight days and working and doing all the Superman stuff So then when they left I was like, okay now I'll rest and then comic-con was like So I'm prepping all my interviews for comic-con and then I've got stuff I'm doing DC at comic-con and then I'm trying to make sure that mean being there. I'm not missing out on my other jobs So I'm hoping in September I get to rest a little. Because August I'll be kind of making up for July.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I don't associate you as someone who ever wants to have like true alone time. Do you crave like being alone ever? I think there comes a point where I don't know how to take care of myself well. So there comes a point where my body shuts down and I either end up in the hospital or I end up like really, really mentally unwell. So I'm trying to get to a point where I see all the red
Starting point is 00:36:07 I want to see orange flags before the third red flag So what I'm trying to do is like as I get more exhausted as I get more short-tempered as I get more Animosity in my body. I'm like what would solve this that is healthy as opposed to like a tub of cookie dough So I'm trying to add in a loan time because I think that everyone needs solitude but I don't, like when I'm working out or when I'm like living my day, I don't think to drink water, for example. I have to put notes in my phone that say drink water.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I have to set alarms. I have to like do things. I think I have the same thing with alone time where I need it but unless I tell myself, take it, I don't. So I think I'm gonna try to take some time and try to put it in somewhere Also, my grandpa's turn in 80 in September So I want to try to like see my extended family as they're getting older
Starting point is 00:36:51 I feel like I have less opportunities to so I'm gonna try to have some alone time maybe in August and then some some Family time in September that isn't me hosting But um, I don't take the time and then I end up like, you know That that time I ended up in the hospital because my cortisol levels were so high My organs were shutting down trying to learn from that But this year has been like some of the hardest because I usually have Like seven to ten panels at comic-con that that you know between us and the whole internet That's a lot of my income like most of my income comes from the con circuit I have zero panels this year, so I'm like okay. That means I have to work more everywhere, but where's the time?
Starting point is 00:37:27 I have seven jobs, so I'm a little in not fight-or-flight, but like Shutdown mode how's your anxiety? bigger than Galactus Actually, no I've got it handled to a point But I definitely when I when I stop and like look around I get anxious So I just have to keep going, but then I know that's just pushing it down there Distracting yeah, so like it's better than it has been in past years like cuz I don't ignore it But I definitely I'm like okay if I slow down too long. It'll get me so yeah, it's bad, but
Starting point is 00:37:57 There's not much I can do right now so navigating Hey, I feel you man, I feel you oh I dig do the I got that did the eGG the oh, yeah Cuz I I mean there yeah, cuz they think I might have borderline personality disorder Yeah, that might have to bipolar might have been missed. I know so the eGG did you get the results? I get it August 11th, okay, but then I'm gonna do an MRI of the brain Yeah, I did one so that way I know for sure what I have and then I could get proper they can see that with photography
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah, I mean you can see that with the ADHD I don't know about I don't know about borderline personality sore, but you know, I've been diagnosed with ADHD I mean, but the thing is is like I want to get a brain scan. So I know for sure Yeah, yeah, like, you know, of course, there's like circumstantial things There's mental and stuff, but I'm like I know I got something I didn't know that was a visual so I got some neurodivergent thing going yeah I knew that was a visual diagnosis. That's really interesting cuz MRI is like literally like photos of your brain I didn't know you can see it. That's interesting. That's what they wanted to have and that's a crazy neurology thing and Alex over There's really helping when I did my EGG
Starting point is 00:39:02 They found I have a peripheral vertigo So like I get motion sick really easily and it's because this motion is like causes me to feel like I'm on like a high thing So sometimes when I'm like running I'll feel like why do I feel like I'm on top of a building? Oh, so that was really cool just to know so I feel less crazy like I'll get the same level of motion sick as Riding in the backseat sometimes driving and it'll come out of nowhere And I'll be like oh shit like I'll just so I'm trying to find out what's it but that also gives me anxiety I'm like why do I suddenly feel? So the GG really helped that's why I'm trying yeah If I'm not riding if I'm not behind the wheel Gigi or EKG anyone he gives for the heart. Thank you
Starting point is 00:39:39 But yeah when I'm driving on the if I'm if I'm behind the wheel I'm flying but if I'm in passenger backseat I have to close my eyes really get motion But that helps closing your eyes. Can I feel it instead? I feel like I'm on a boat It's that it's better than not sometimes it'll put on music. Anyway, we're little little babies. Anyway, real rejects podcast Uh, what's next on here James gun DC you reveals he was on Josh Horowitz and we got koi here and How many people we got in the stream right now, John? Do we lose a lot of people as we talked about our actual lives? We don't we want to hear more reaction, why are we here listening to koi's anxiety and Greg's
Starting point is 00:40:20 That's pretty good for a random livestream that we're doing nice like you got it it was 2000 Oh, there's I have a who was it no Suddenly my self-worth just went down the drain in one second like what soon as I Struggles it's like nah Oh God the mental battles uh yeah the Henry. I don't know. I have that. That's my first note here Let's talk about some of these reveals. Yes. I got some notes here This is one. I love sharing about this is what my ears did perk up when Henry Cavill was brought up
Starting point is 00:40:57 He clarified that Cavill's departure as Superman happened the day his DC Studios deal closed So I believe in the interview what he was saying is that the day he closed the deal was the same day they announced Henry Cavill was coming back. Cause remember we found out the next day. Yeah. We found out the gun deal the next day. What a shit show.
Starting point is 00:41:17 That just is a terrible thing for both James Gunn and Henry Cavill. That sucks. But in the interview he said that he and Safran felt they owed it to him to go directly to him because of the situation. He said it was a terrible thing. What happened to him and that Henry was
Starting point is 00:41:36 the one who respected it and wanted and it was the one who wanted to put out the message himself. I also love that they met with him in person and they made it like, hey, like that's such an awkward meeting and I love that they met with him in person and they made it like, hey, like that's such an awkward meeting. And I love that they like manned up and took that time to really like, we're sorry. Do you think?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Do you? It's weird. Now I'm seeing a lot of things coming around about. Let's get juicy here. Now I'm seeing a lot of things coming around about the Snyder verse Snyder cult side of it, which kind of sucks it here because, you know, like Zack Snyder, the word the Snyder verse Snyder cult side of it which kind of sucks it here because you know like Zack Snyder did the word Zack Snyder now is associated with a cult when I really love the filmmakers it sucks that there's this there is this side of fandom
Starting point is 00:42:18 there that is a it's really strange you know they're buying billboards and advertisements that are having no effect and aside that, that's like, look what we do, we're all here for good, but then they take people down. Very aggressive and very, yeah. Most, I'd say 90% of the time, not 90, that's not fair. I'd say 70% of the time I get hostile threats or just blind anger or anything that's like really vitriolic
Starting point is 00:42:45 That's a hashtag in their bio and that sucks cuz I don't I don't think of Zack that way Yeah, but that is that's a tricky asterix getting at yeah, it's like it's called Snyder occult But I I'd never see their leader their God going out there and saying like and baptize. Yeah fuck James Month he did a Rick and Morty they've taken the photo together and and they've worked together the reason I'm bringing this up is Do you think and keep in mind? this is this is coming from someone who really came around heavily on on the slider verse and When that seemed like there was a possibility of it being restored I was excited by it I was like yeah, I want to see this I want to see this vision get filled in fact. I'll even throw this out there
Starting point is 00:43:28 Since I've been reading Kingdom come I was like this is what Zack Snyder should direct Oh the scope of that the god element and yeah the tone and and fucking brooding dark Superman like This is this is the Snyder Yeah, what he should have done like that's the way he directs I feel like if there was like an elseworlds like straight adaptation more more than the Dark Knight Returns Yeah, I think the kingdom come I'm like this reeks of Zack Snyder to me I'd love to see that in ten years like once we got there narratively yeah, or as it like you know world Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:44:00 but I I think it's a Really tricky thing because of the cult like if you open that door There's gonna be so many expectations and that's unfortunate because I'd love to see it But but I'm okay. So I was getting at is with het with you know It's Henry Cavill writing a letter to David Corn sweat Henry Cavill wanting to put this message out there Do you feel like if Henry Cavill and Zack Snyder if they actually said something? and Zach Snyder if they actually said something like to the camera of like hey this new Superman movies great or something like that do you think that would make a difference at all I would love it as a gesture but I don't think
Starting point is 00:44:34 it would make a difference yeah okay like it just feels like I don't know it feels like a like a like a videotape in a basement like oh they made me say like there would be excuses like even if Zach filmed it Walking out the people that are the most vitrolic would say like bet they paid him bet they forced him to oh What's the real like I or they'd like zoom in and be like his eyebrow twitch didn't mean it They're just not Navigable as people yeah like I just don't think there's reasoning with them Fucking hate Twitter. I mean I think it's I think it's a Twitter mindset, but I think it's it's the Internet
Starting point is 00:45:08 I think when I say Internet I'm speaking to the highs and lows of it But anytime you have a hive mind that has the ability to connect to that level It's really dangerous when they use it for evil like what the Internet could have given us is Utopia and instead by human nature We reward negativity and there aren't any safeguards to prevent that so like I say all the time that being kind and being good Is so much more vulnerable, so it doesn't happen as often so then negativities rewarded just by the way we're wired It's a safety feature of like I hate that too. Oh me too. Oh me, too
Starting point is 00:45:41 I think the group of them have become this giant thing because it's a lot of people that Feel alone and it's a lot of people that feel abandoned It's a lot of people and then it's a universe that didn't get its finish and that made them feel more abandoned So it's a really sad thing That turned sadness into rage and then you can't reason with rage and it only fuels itself So I think unfortunately with you know Zack and Deborah being such Good people to my knowledge I don't know them personally but like all the things they've done for
Starting point is 00:46:12 Mental health and suicide awareness and all the things they've done with making art and all of their passion It's unfortunate that that you know it's a thing that I don't feel like they could even change and and Henry Cavill likewise, I don't feel like that group, if they cared as much as they tweet or Instagram or TikTok, I think movies would do better with him. His movies don't do the numbers they should. I think Henry Cavill's an excellent actor. I think he is so charming. I think Man from Uncle is one of the most slept on movies of the last 20, however long
Starting point is 00:46:44 years. I think it's exceptional. one of the most slept on movies of the last 20 however long years I think it's exceptional that we didn't do well I think that if there was an action behind things that was for art for celebrating It would be a beautiful thing, but the internet doesn't work to celebrate it works to disparage He did say to Henry that he could come back in the DCU who do you think it could be? He did say to Henry that he could come back into DCU. Who do you think it could be? If he were to cast. It would depend on like, you know, he's aging because that is life, time has passed.
Starting point is 00:47:12 So I would love for him to play something where he doesn't have to stay like, you know, jacked for 10 years. Just because of, you know, physiology. Like I feel bad for Hugh Jackman sometimes. Like sometimes I'll just think like, man, I don't want to do this workout. Cut to Hugh Jack been like 20 years older than me like yeah, no doughnuts So Henry Cavill in that universe
Starting point is 00:47:32 But someone that wouldn't have to necessarily stay jacked and he's how old is Henry Cavill now It's probably 40 worth the close to okay So he's got like at least another 20 years of like if he wants to 42 42 I Would say in that you know you know if no that wouldn't work because that that's a very shirtless role I would love for him to play like Solomon Grundy no someone that is a villain because I think he'd be great at it But someone that wouldn't necessarily be in the sphere of Superman because that would be for a DX How meadow of a shit with that?
Starting point is 00:48:11 How cool would that be I actually don't hate that at all It'd be really fun to like have a calculating controlled malicious because I really liked him for dr. Doom for a bit if he's playing like I mean he was a villain and fallout and I think it would allow him to show his playing like a I mean he was a villain in and fallout and I think it would allow him to show his that's why I think I guess a villain I think there's a lot of potential if he could if he could pull off Brady. I was like not Superman You're like what if he's Superman? But Brady act is is he is not at all what I imagine Henry Cavill to do now It'd be it'd be a stretch which would be great if he stretched, but I think the meta-ness of it would be so
Starting point is 00:48:44 appealing to I Like that that's really fun. Yeah, I think another one would be the human target That's a hero, but human target human targets a hero that basically gets targeted and Has death kind of thrown at him in order to save people so one of my favorite runs of human target Greg Smallwood art is Basically he takes poison for Lex Luthor But actually it's poisoned. He has only seven days to find out who's caused his death in order to solve the mystery so he's like a Play dead for hire, but sometimes he actually gets hurt So that's kind of like a spy espionage man from uncle thing
Starting point is 00:49:18 But it's all charm and like it's basically James Bond like you're getting to like schmooze the women and do all this cool espionage stuff But you get to be like a lethargy. Oh, and I think that'd be really cool to see Henry Cavill basically It's me casting him in man for monkey So bad I thought like this would be me him that bond it's scratched all right cool. That's fun Well, there's so much more he actually revealed, but I like hearing that peacemaker season 2 for sure is that he considers that the direct follow-up to Superman, you know, because you'll have Rick Flagg senior in there hot girl Maxwell Lord guy Gardner But it's like a very R rated version and I think that's gonna be really I think that's neat
Starting point is 00:49:58 Because there was a couple of things with that. They said they cut from it one was Superman spoilers here in the Russian roulette scene that after the guy gets shot, there's like a puddle of blood. And then he has like the president. I think he said he has him roll around in it and the blood to like clean it up or something like that. And then cause it gets on a shoe and he's like, ugh, you know, and they shot it and as they were shooting it,
Starting point is 00:50:21 he was saying like, it's probably not gonna be in the movie even though he's like having fun, it's well performed. Yeah, which is like very much more of the dark gun type of sure Maca violent type of more like this is like It works for Lex but maybe not for the movie Superman. Yeah, and the other one is when Guy Gardner at one point guy Gardner calls him a pussy cause superman a pussy and uh and and henry calvel's like don't say that and i don't know like don't say that and he said i said don't be like or something like he said there's kids right i forget what the joke is right anyway it's a little more r-rated it's not r-rated it's pg-13 but it's a little more edgy and
Starting point is 00:51:02 it might be a little bit like whoa they said that in a superman movie Yeah, this was before kids and stuff. That's so helpful to take it out That's tactful to make the film feel wholesome But I like that your direct follow-up is the opposite is you're gonna carry over characters from that that feel within the same universe Now we're gonna see more of an R rated flair even though we got that with season one But now that you're incorporating characters who are actually in Superman Yeah, so you get that association with the world great way to show the versatility of guy gardener pre lanterns, too It's a good transitional thing. Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to like, you know shock shock people with it Yeah, you want them to transition. So I think that is actually smarter than I initially anticipated
Starting point is 00:51:39 I think it's really smart to go from creature commandos, which is a smaller thing. It's it's characters a lot of people don't know it's animated into Superman. So you get a warm up full tilt and then back to TV. I think it's a really beautiful flow, but it's also our PG-13 are like, I think this and then, you know, I think Lanterns is going to be adult drama. Yeah. Rating it's going to be, but that's very much adult Supergirl back to PG-13, but more dark than Superman, then R rated clay face. You're really showing the versatility of your characters in universe for sure
Starting point is 00:52:08 And also another reminder just gonna take a reminder here to say thank you for people are being here Please leave a like we are doing this is our our main story that we're doing then afterwards We will go to the super chats and stream labs think you know people have contribute. I'm assuming so No people have I'm assuming people have No people have contribute. I'm assuming so we have no people have I'm assuming people have yeah, why wouldn't But if you have do we have some super chats I'm assuming John nope nope We'll go to that it afterwards, but thank you guys who have already contributed and we promise we don't end stream without going through all them Guns next project he's actually writing and directing and he's saying he's not he said he's not doing creature commandos, too That surprised me. I think that of anything in the interview that surprised me most that surprised me one is I'm I
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, my my love of the show was very much his tonalities the needle drops the writing the character style I don't know who could pick up that but that one is such a James Gunn voice like so like I could see someone else doing A Superman too. Yeah, I'd like but actually no I take that yeah back because I think that his the punk rock Superman thing is so James Gunn and that I fell in Love with I mean I accidentally predicted it but like that is so specific a James Gunn thing But I think there's I think Superman would allow itself to feel a little bit different For a sequel like it doesn't have to be I don't think it has to be James Gunn who does the sequel if anything I feel like he'd be involved in the story
Starting point is 00:53:38 But I don't think in an active hands-on producer the way our JJ Abrams did mission impossibleams did Mission Impossible 3 and then handing it off to Brad Birdman, it was more of like you could switch up the directors and keep it going. Or even at the prospect at the time when Christopher McCrory was being courted to potentially do a Man of Steel sequel. I'm like, weirdly this makes sense. Even though it's so different than Zack Snyder,
Starting point is 00:53:59 it makes sense. I think a Matthew Vaughn could do a follow-up to Superman in a way. I think there's other directors who could potentially pull it off, but creature commandos is such a James Gunn show Yeah, isn't the credits like it's such a good show that it's hard for me to wrap my head around him not writing I agree. That was my biggest like Mo the whole interview has a lot of greatness, but I was like what really yeah It's like what don't do it then don't do the season
Starting point is 00:54:28 Or hold off for a while I mean, I also want like I'm glad he's doing one thing and kind of focusing on it because he's overseeing this whole universe But I also wonder you know how much does he want to do it once again in your interview with him? He talked about that crazy run of doing peacemaker creature commandos and Superman and like a certain amount of days and how it just yeah I don't want that to like like we're talking about with our own personal stuff There is a breaking point and I want dude to get to like rest between stuff But he's overseeing a universe so I get that side of not doing creature commandos, but of any project That's the one where I'm like what will that be yeah like rather not rather not do it then But he's saying that the next one is definitely not world's finest. I would do we should that rumor was getting out of hand
Starting point is 00:55:09 It's definitely it's not some BBS sequel He made that very clear But there is an announcement coming sooner than later of the next one that he is writing and directing. So I Would hope we get that announcement to do press for peacemaker because I think it'd be really smart to get peacemaker Some press by way of like and this is coming soon, but within the next like three years I think they shouldn't go past two years. I think they should keep a two to three year window of announcement so it'd be kind of cool to like
Starting point is 00:55:39 Hey, we're doing this and my next thing because I think that's the end of the the announced stuff that James specifically is doing So only stay one project ahead. Yeah, because we knew he was doing creature commando Superman peacemaker So only announcing one more not like the Batman part two He's directing Matt Reeves. I love the script. I'm gonna drink now He did not make it abundantly clear about Alvin Rich and but he did praise him as an actor He said that if there was a director he wanted to get into the DCU I love this he said it will be Matt Reeves Clearly showing they hate each other and all those rumors. Yeah
Starting point is 00:56:12 That he likes the script for Batman 2, but there's still some work that needs to be done on it I also like that he cited Ryan Coogler Greta Gerwig and Matt Reeves as visionaries that keep their voice in their blockbusters I think that is more of a testament what the universe is gonna be than anything and if anything That's what I feel like fantastic for feels like to me from what I've been seeing with Matt Shaqman I agree, and I think that everyone is like well James Gunn started this universe. It's gonna be his tone It's gonna be his whatever and then Craig LSB is such a different director and him saying like I want their voice in it That's how you keep it feeling like comic issues is you have a tone you have a voice you have a specificity. I think when Marvel isn't hitting it's because it's a neutral
Starting point is 00:56:49 I think when Marvel is hitting it's when they're specific winter soldier What looks like fantastic four is gonna do I would even argue no way home as a voice. Yeah, that's why I think Guardians like that's why Superman people either seem to like really there's that's why I think Even this Superman generates strong emotions Yeah, you know because it is so specific and what it is whether it like for people who really didn't like Yes strong emotion you want to get strong emotion no matter what woman of tomorrow supergirl the The supergirl movie is already in the can I love that. He's giving teams a year of visual that's crazy
Starting point is 00:57:23 That's that's unusual well Superman had a year of visual that's crazy. That's unusual Well Superman had a year and he talks about it being as a director. He said he's usually like under budget Yeah, most of the time and it seems like he's really good So you having that type of director with experience and I'll be a producer is really helpful 100% and I think having a year of visual effects and really fine-tuning a film is so smart. Mm-hmm That's how movies should be paid and Jason Momoa as Lobo. He said is awesome And yeah, when does that come out next year Jason Momoa was in Supergirl no one is super June Okay, I was taking the Superman spot. Yeah, so when he a little earlier
Starting point is 00:58:00 It's late June so it's like two weeks before Superman this surprised me when he was first being brought into DC After the Guardians they want her like do the Superman movie That was like the main thing they wanted him to do and the narrative is usually like I want to do the Suicide Squad But he actually wrote three movies He wrote the Suicide Squad as one and then he wrote a crypto movie where Superman was a supporting character That's game crypto was the main one It's called DC's pets And then he said there was a third one, but he didn't want to say what it was, huh
Starting point is 00:58:36 Which is weird because I like oh, maybe he's actually using that script for yeah some element of it. Yeah. Yeah I thought I mean that a this goes to show like you I always love crypto and this yeah This isn't just that's his way in there wasn't some shoehorn thing that he just included in there that he loves crypto He he doesn't remember but I have receipts he and I talked about Superman 13 12 or 13 years ago at a party and we both were talking about how hard it is to get the universal appeal of the character to translate to Certain people including like I struggled with the character in my 20s and we were talking about the character and then I loved that The crypto thing got him to like it unlocked something in him and then the punk rock thing unlocked something in me
Starting point is 00:59:17 I think there's just has to be like an eye line into the end of getting the character And I love that that was crypto for him And maybe it took writing crypto for him to like find that for the Superman character That's cool Clay face he's seen is like it is full-blown horror movie James Watkins made speak new evil, which is terrifying I love the James Watkins and Mike Flanagan are teaming up in general much less a clay face movie and James Gunn is not James Gunn has produced horror movies. Yeah, I mean right burn He loves produced a Superman horror his first movie is a horror comedy slither so I his movie with Zack Snyder's are
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah, and trauma like he's got a lot of horror in his back I would argue Scooby-Doo is a great Scooby-Doo is a horror comedy Yeah, the second one especially very spooky that was the one he had the most to do with and Wonder Woman he said there's already a script. Yeah the clear direction. That's surprising I also want to give some love to the fact that he is not even Bouncing around casting ideas until the script is done. I think it's great to have like oh, I like that person's performance log that away Oh, I think this is a good idea if the character works for one type of movie and not the movie that you have the script of That's when I feel like casting gets messy
Starting point is 01:00:29 That's actually what I'm worried about some of Marvel's choices Because if your script isn't finished when you go into production if you've cast it What if that's not that version of the character and you feel that sometimes? So I think having the script done before you even play with casting is is a great approach for a shared universe He's smart because he's creative and oftentimes I'm thrown into meetings too. I was just in one yesterday where they're like, of like, oh, here's an idea of something we wanna do.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And then they were talking about, oh, here's what we're gonna do to get brands and sales and stuff. And I immediately would, the thing I have going to, we need a foundation first of what we're doing and why we're doing it We need to know how we're going to record this and never talking about all this other stuff. Yeah, let's get there later What do you get this? We need to get like the why behind what we're doing down and stuff
Starting point is 01:01:16 Reference Matt Shackman again I feel like he came with a full pitch with yeah, I some like the fantastic four feels complete Yeah, and I remember John Watts was attached and then all of a sudden everybody was like Matt Jackman's doing it I was like what a pivot but clearly Matt Jackman like did WandaVision had an idea brought it to mark That feels like a complete vision. Yeah, and I think you cast from there accordingly. Yeah, I'm excited for the new Wonder Woman Yeah, yeah that was surprising to you because it wasn't mentioned in the opening But I mean in the last two years stuff has risen and fallen by the scripts lanterns progressing great
Starting point is 01:01:48 We know that he said there probably wouldn't be another version of flash or Aquaman for a few years Smart definitely on the next two years Again to your windows are really smart kind of weird To who appeared that they go to appear in peacemaker, right? Yeah, the others were scared. Yeah Yeah, they're the only two actually cameo and that's maybe I mean I wonder if that ties in but also that's maybe a way to Acknowledge like we need distance from the old universe and I'm only looking at the two-year window right now. Yeah Let's see here the authority. It's been a rough road to develop Which is surprising because you have a character from authority and Superman
Starting point is 01:02:24 So I thought they'd be a little bit more on it Well the writer left to do another DC thing and he said that one's going along really great swamp thing They don't have a script yet. What surprised me is like the level of transparency He has even when he doesn't want to reveal something. He doesn't try to be like clever. Yeah in the way Kevin Feige's like very clever Yeah, he's like no, okay. I'm not gonna say that And then other times he's like incredibly transparent in the way Kevin Feige's like very clever yeah he's like no can't all that no I'm gonna say that and then other times he's like incredibly transparent in the process THR didn't end up running it but I asked James about immutables in his characters and I thought it was really interesting
Starting point is 01:02:56 what do you mean by that immutables like the the things that are musts in your character something that cannot be changed and I said like Superman here gave me a lot of the immutables to me As the character but other people see some of those things as less important Are there immutables you have for certain characters when you let directors or writers write the script are there things that are musts for? You in your shared universe. That's a great question then What were do you remember some of the answers to James literally said like first and foremost? I want their vision I don't want to control them too much
Starting point is 01:03:25 I have certain things in mind, but if their script is solid and they have reasoning I am absolutely about they're having their say and I was like that's the big headline and then I've got the footage somewhere Damn, that's the one I would love to hear. Yeah Red carpet the fact that I got that out while like the walk by you know red carpets, they're like You know red carpets, they're like It was really sweet cuz James I was next to Mark Malkin a variety who's very like yeah, if you don't get your question in you're not getting your question in so I was Like I gotta jump but James like saw me out of the corner of his eye Dramatically broke his question went back and then I was able to jump in and the the PR it was the end of the day
Starting point is 01:04:05 They were running late to the movie She was like one question and it was very sweet James Let me ask a question about Superman and then he gave me a beat to ask another one So I asked my immutable question I had like 30 questions prepped but I thought the immutable was such an idea of what the DC universe was gonna be shaped Like that's that's such a reveal to me. That's an important question, but I think It's all about how it comes across in a Viral nature now, and I don't blame THR for that
Starting point is 01:04:29 I think they're doing a THR to be honest is doing I think the best red carpet stuff with letting questions be bolder But you're chasing tick-tock dancing. You're chasing all the stuff that shiny you're chasing like What is the sound bite of the day? I don't feel like some of these mainstream outlets don't really understand what people like anymore What people want I don't think people understand they like any look if you look at user even if we look at our Instagram or tik-tok and my interview with James gone ask him a bunch of stuff and The one part that went like kind of viral on social media was him talking about writing process. Yeah Nothing about Superman right or like the details on movies or
Starting point is 01:05:07 anything it's like literally the creative process right and Created decision-making like what you were talking about people love to chew that shit up now that's what people like they want subs because it's unique they want substance and like this other stuff that they try to highlight and then They I hate the way mainstream media also will make it like they'll take the put these quotes of what it comes out In their interview, and it's so that's not yeah But they want to beat people and think it's something dramatic and that's what I really appreciate the teacher has not done because I've gotten sound bites and they've been like the thing that would be a Sensationalized headline or clickbait and they haven't they haven't made it look like they said something they didn't
Starting point is 01:05:41 And I really respect them for that because I've seen outlets Manipulate or warp so I was hoping that moment and like I think they'd be cool to be running it But they've been really cool about letting me have the freedom to ask the stuff that I think is important It's just interesting what takes or not like it is interesting what goes and then to be very fair Sometimes I do exactly what I said You do And these are mega corporations that are like we've got stockholders That I've said my thing come like but I definitely do that sometimes to That's what I want to give higher reporter credit for like they haven't spun stuff and made it that because like that is something
Starting point is 01:06:26 People do yeah, you don't realize it in the moment. I guess but yeah I think I also think immutables might be one of those words that since people don't know what it means They didn't want to be like So that's probably my fault for being like too verbose and in a question like to smart too smart for them coin verbose sergeant rock That luca guadagnino is no longer attached, but it'll come back relatively soon cool. That's cool. It's not off the table That's one koi's really been wanted for a long time And you're like like a cartoonish apathy I was like it's sergeant rock you're like what
Starting point is 01:07:03 Like like a cartoonish apathy. I was like it started rock. You're like what? Yeah, he's praising praising Lobo a lot and then he said that the One okay. He said the message from from Jor-el and Laura He's he's like I don't get how people could question that it's not real So he's in five different ways in the movie they clarify. It's rated a button like I had questions It's just kind of weird because I did the DC studios one with you Yeah, where I was like questionable about it then on my rewatch. I was like, oh no, it's rated a button like I had questions which is kind of weird because I did the DC studios one with you. Yeah. Where I was like questionable about it. Then on my rewatch, I was like, oh, no, it's a bundle. They they make it clear from all different perspectives.
Starting point is 01:07:31 And I was saying in my rewatch, like, oh, I there's definitely a couple of lines that I actually didn't register, really. Yeah. And yeah, they make it really clear. But when Lex is behind closed doors being like, it's crazy. They just gave us the keys like blah, blah, blah. They just that they're the ones that brought them down. Well, it's we're in a day and age of of studios reacting to fandom and course correction and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I mean, how many times has DC been fucking reboot? Like they're doing this so often that it's to me, it's not unreasonable that fans would watch that and it would be such a shocking difference. Yeah, they're like nah, maybe though Maybe I get that idea especially with Jor-El being in a lot of canon the mentor to Superman because the crystals and him like Yeah, giving him lessons, but they're clearly not doing that also Jor-El in smallville Which is my connection to the media of Superman was never that nice of a guy I also think it makes odd a little bit more one-to-one. I also think it's gonna make an interesting commentary for Supergirl. I
Starting point is 01:08:27 most of all think it is the best way to show the entire Paw Kent speech as Relevant the whole movie is about your your own decisions and so him being a product of nature nurture and then Supergirl being the other side of that and then juxtaposing that with his Choice, I think it's a great storytelling element. he said the opening crawl was inspired directly from Star Wars and The way he the way he was talking about that because some people really don't like that. They threw you into it There's some I love it. I've heard a lot of people talk about that like they like but I don't know his origin I don't know his backstory. I don't know this that it's like but what if you haven't seen these other Superman movies and stuff so you wouldn't know that and
Starting point is 01:09:07 the way he was bringing it up I Like that's so true though that in Star Wars I just have a crawl to kind of tell you what the world is so he shows you into a world and lets you know This is not the real world and that is what the the opening text of this new Superman movie does and he was saying how he There's so many times open comics And yeah, that's been those we loved that was part of it. I didn't read fantastic for origin comics I've just been reading fantastic for yeah, and uh, and sure I have some level of knowledge from like the movies and shit But the but most of the time with comics is I don't go to the origin. I hop into something
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah, and I pick up along the way and I like stuff that throws you into the world There's so many movies that do like stuff that throws you into the world There's so many movies that do that to just throw you into the world But I think because we have seen so many movies do origins I think because we've seen that we've been trained and programmed to think we need to see that and we don't have time for it anymore when really we've seen so many movies that like John Wick days throw you into the world you're not like but I don't Know his backstory to it every movie exactly make stuff up as they go exactly you discover who he is along the way So even if this is your first introduction to Superman, you will eventually get the pieces
Starting point is 01:10:11 You will eventually understand like oh, he's from Kansas. This is where he grew the way how Lois is experiencing it Yeah, I think it's a way more dynamic choice Yeah, I love that choice and the big part of what he was saying and of this is that they really did Consider brainiac and bizarro as villains for this so the idea and and he said he said He said brainiac and bizarro were considered and at the press junket where we get like these newspapers that we have here At the press junket on the walls That we have here at the press junket on the walls Was stuff about bizarro. Oh cool. So I'm wondering if that was like it was like one little thing Yeah, if there is like a that was a weird cheeky tease
Starting point is 01:10:54 I mean they set up Ultraman to possibly come back as bizarre. Oh, yeah potentially I could see other bizarre Oh versions, but I could see him. They've got a lot of options there And you know also super I don't know the movie doesn't explore bizarro and also Superman doesn't know okay But but there's a big chapter piece in the comic yeah, yeah the animated movie doesn't go that chapter Yeah, and I think bizarre will be a fascinating prospect But Brainiac and bizarro and live-action would be pretty sweet Brainiac especially finally game I want Brainiac so and that was my pitch for the first one. I think it's a really topical character I think it's a perfect. I think Brainiac would be a perfect follow-up villain
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah after all the technology hundred-percent implementation and if whatever origin they do if it is I've been reading Superman Brainiac from Jeff John's yeah, dude that run is so good. That's Gary Frank art. God gorgeous really enjoyable Yeah, Brainiac's one of my favorites and I think in three years it's gonna be even more topical I think you know as time goes on that character is gonna be like, oh, we're just watching news And a lot of people grew up on the Superman animated cartoon, which is very brainiac Yeah kicks off with brainiac and he's the reason why people have Krypton don't flee Yeah, you know and so I think I think there's a lot of ways you can use brain if to make him so relevant He's also the character like we've almost gotten most in movies like Kevin Smith wrote brainiac and like that was the Tim Burton Kevin Smith movie
Starting point is 01:12:09 Like there's been so many almost brainiacs and now now we can get Henry Cavill to play brainiacs brain Exclusive real rejects and Jimmy Olsen takes him down. Yeah, that's it for our main stories today Welcome to the recording as you can see We don't really cut shit out that's usually how the show goes you got to see it in real time usually it's like kind of smooth out a little bit I might be like editors insert a message I'm gonna redo this moment or yeah but yeah that's pretty much it you guys got it real inside but now what do you guys think about anything? Everything James Gunn said and uh, I'm gonna first reactions
Starting point is 01:12:46 Fantastic board and like we do on our normal show we go to some cues from the audience Let's see what we got here Pulling it up John John you have stuff John has stuff. We're gonna open up. We're gonna go some super chest right now Thank you everyone who's been here. Please leave a like on this video. Thank you. Thank you so much. Everyone has been here sincerely. That's for you. So why is it silent? I have to. John has to scroll to the applause.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Scroll back. All right. We've got our first Super Chat of the day. Hold on, I do have to get out of here because I have something to... I have to go to a place with my wife. Oh damn, we got some Super Chats. Oh damn, we got a good amount. Okay, cool. All right, yeah, this is us. We will not... Roxy does clip-outs for us.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Oh! 99% chance she's watching. Hi, Roxy. We will not Roxy does clipouts for us. Oh 99% chance she's watching my rocks. We will not Roxy this I will not start springboarding into a bunch of different questions in the middle of another question, okay? clip out ready Roxy Look out for our human centipede reaction and we watch strange darling, which was I love that movie so much dude. I love strange darling so much One of my favorite movies last year. I just said I want to pull the Roxy I just threw a pull the Roxy at you immediately I'm like lets talk about strange darling
Starting point is 01:14:14 I saw that movie the first week it was out and I put out my review and the director watched my review and shared it and said I was the only person to interpret the ending in the way that he had originally written What I understood it It's a nuanced detail that I'll explain off-camera and not in front of John and not in front of John but the director It was so sweet because I only added this is actually if you're making internet content If you're in baby if you're making content in the internet and you're feeling bad about numbers The story has kept me afloat for a long time all the other channels I work for our giant numbers my little baby channel 49 K at this time It was 37 K in a row. I put out a review and it had 816 views and I was like
Starting point is 01:14:53 I really want to support indie film I really want to talk about smaller film, but no one watches the ones this made 816 views I realized one of those 816 was the director because he shared it So one of the first thousand views the director was like I loved Your review you're one of the first you're the first to notice this and I've only talked to people in person about blah blah But if you've only got interviews one of those might be the people that you're thanking in the video, so don't look at the number Make art make art. That's yeah. I love I love that movie so much. I can't wait to watch so good Watch it guys. You have a paramount plus subscription and paramounts great
Starting point is 01:15:29 Killing it right now support Paramount is excellent, and I did a quick count while coy was talking as I've heard that story before I Feel so I like to let people feel heard Just so you know verbally acknowledging not listening That's right I was like look at a little moment I have the the I've counted there at least like 35 super chat so far and so yeah we're gonna quality efficiency that's what we do here and yeah let's go and then I didn't even check we have stream labs do we have stream labs a couple, ready you say couple that's like literally a couple right so far, but let me I can refresh
Starting point is 01:16:10 Super generous now. It's getting hot No, yeah, we got a few You got three cool. Let's start. Can we start with the since we got three on the stream labs We got a really generous one who start there sure want to nudge the big one because he's already patron. I just give it extra dough Let's come at 12 16 p.m.. We could see the time You got this you got we were only getting warmed up then yeah, because if we do because we got three stream labs So we'll do those first and then the super chats has the big quantity one, so we'll go through the gambit there Cool cool cool cool, so July 19, who do we start off with?
Starting point is 01:16:47 Dan V 900's got a couple in here. Thank you so much, Dan. I thought Superman was great, but I still have an issue with the message, with the elves being Saiyans slash Viltrumites. I know the message was real, but it doesn't really work if Supergirl does the origin like the Woman of Tomorrow comic. It's conflicting, Dan goes on to say. I know it message was real, but it doesn't really work if Supergirl does the origin like the Woman of Tomorrow comic.
Starting point is 01:17:05 It's conflicting, Dan goes on to say. I know it won't happen, but I'd love an adaptation of the I'm With Stupid miniseries, in which, uh, which is about Peter and Johnny. They have such a great friendship and are jealous of each other. You are part of the F4 and people love you. You're married to MJ and respected. You know, okay, I didn't have any- thank you for the question and the super chats and you've always your damn B 900 thank you so much so I had as as this question was coming in the thoughts of respring was I don't think it's exactly akin to Viltrumite which is
Starting point is 01:17:34 about you know domination and shit and it only dawned on me right now when reading this that how would I put it? Jor-El usually in canon is someone who they do not believe. Jor-El is usually like, this planet's dying. Everyone's like, shut the fuck up. You quack scientist. Yeah, you crazy. And someone like that can definitely be pushed to a point where they're like,'m gonna protect my son
Starting point is 01:18:06 And we're not gonna run into the same bullshit and then the most like like flames simple dumbed down version I'm telling you right now of so if I put my son on this planet He has to be in control. He has to be in power and that's how you protect imagine being the one who wanted to protect the planet of Krypton and No one listen to you. Yeah, and now they're all dying and Usually there's differences of beliefs Ideologies science understandings when it comes to Jor-El and others there, so I don't feel like it would conflict because what's that? What's what's Kara's dad's name again? I'm forgetting what David Krumholz? What is?
Starting point is 01:18:42 Something Zor-El is Zor-El? Is it Zor-El? It might be. I can't even picture it. He's like uncle. I'm only looking at him. Anyway, that, he's a different person. He's a different, he could have very different ideologies.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And you know, when you're looking at Superman and Supergirl that are very different people and that a lot of that is associated with the origins and how they were raised and the nurturing and their experiences and whatnot. Zor-El. I had the mom and not the dad. Who's the mom Laura? Laura's Superman's dad Laura. So you are a Laura L. Is that Superman's mom? No, that's Laura Laura's Superman's mom Laura is car as me a L that's some fucking J. R. R. Token George R. R. Martin bullshit, right?
Starting point is 01:19:25 Both of their mothers named Martha It was a 40s and So So I can totally see whether it could be someone like Jor-el who's being pushed like okay if I'm gonna send my son We're not gonna run to the same situation You know I I I can see how it's rooted in something or maybe they are fucking filter mates that are like conquer, you know I mean the opening with the yamcha pose it could be a DBZ nod But I personally think you don't have to make that like you're saying he is an out outlier of the
Starting point is 01:19:58 Kryptonians in most canons, so it could be different for Kara they also could have Kara having trauma about coming from a race of people that wasn't as Hubert's killed them. Yeah, like she could be trying to amend that because of the goodness of her cousin Yeah, like there's so many possibilities to tell if you're telling the woman of tomorrow Kara story There's a lot of options of why she's the way she is that could include her Kryptonian heritage Yeah I mean to like reference man of steel for a second one of the lines that I like is when he's tells odd Krypton had its chance. Yeah, something like that like and Todd is now gonna be a lot more plug-and-play and easier to put in
Starting point is 01:20:33 Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah I don't personally mind it, but I understand if you're like loyal to Jor-el into the way you see him I could totally get that being a problem but I personally I don't have this connection to Jor-el as much as I like the narrative and The other part was about a stupid great comic human torches and spider-man Peter and Joe okay Oh, I haven't read that one. It's really fun. It's short. I think it's two issues. I'll be fun. Yeah, they're great together I think that when we get spider-man and Johnny storm in the same room Let's give you some special to be delightful special and then Kevin meek. Thank you for super generous stream lab my friend
Starting point is 01:21:14 Kevin meek wants to know or says Found the channel a few years back looking to nerd out on movies and have a distraction stayed for the people Don't get it twisted you guys make this what it is Keep sharing what you feel like sharing. I care to know how all of you are doing. Thanks. Thanks, man I think that was timed with our anxiety It is funny. I was on naked gun video and I said at the top like I'm having a very stressful That's though. That's the weird part about I could be having a great day And then something fucking awful can go like an hour before I'm about to do a movie reaction
Starting point is 01:21:52 It's silly. It's stupid. It's a comedy slapstick movie It just sends my mood down and I'm just tired of showing up and being like alrighty nor be a pro smile I'm like I'm not a news anchor. I could bring how I'm feeling into a video and say but then But I've still that youtuber at odds with himself of like but but I'm a youtuber I'm supposed to entertain and do I want To show this in my yeah, I might bring you down the vibe now I had a huge epiphany about that this week like a giant one I am in therapy which I support and encourage all people to do when they need it and I was talking about my social media and and how I got back on it for
Starting point is 01:22:30 After I'd seen Superman. I wanted to promote all the videos we were doing at Superman I wanted to be more hands-on so like Jasmine and I have been teaming up But I actually have Instagram my phone again. I have Twitter on my phone again, and I'm feeling so angry all the time And I'm like immediately it's like it like feels like a relapse like it feels like I'm like a Drunk that fell back in drinking like cuz I'm like checking it. I'm scrolling like I don't like how much of a hold it I was over me and My therapist posited like have you considered that since you're always on and since you're always Presenting that perhaps the social media you is all the things you don't get to say on video. Yeah, and I was like oh
Starting point is 01:23:04 No, Jacqueline hide like Twitter is the the hide to my jackal cuz I'm on air all the time Like I don't think people realize I'm I'm on air upwards of 60 or 70 hours a week between all my places That is so much time to be like and so like when I'm not I'm so burnt out and I'm so angry They're like Twitter. Yeah, and so it really helped me get closure on the fact that I need an outlet for my rage so I'm thinking about doing like a little bit more of a bill burr route and and externalizing my stuff in different ways But that is just what you're saying like you need to be able to be yourself if you're gonna put out the amount of stuff We do yeah, and I think and sometimes that means being honest about how you're not feeling good
Starting point is 01:23:43 Yeah, so I'm a pivot a little bit and people might get to see more of the rage that lives in me I think the disappointing side for me for people for me is they're gonna see how like That's so so I'm sad Whatever I think it's healthy are you hot in here or is it just your anxiety? No, honestly a little warm is actually warm things. I didn't try to figure that no. That's a little warm in here No, you guys don't feel warm. Okay. It's our shared anxiety or shared anxiety As I started like touching on this subject. I did start getting my start feeling like my body getting hotter. Yeah Anyway, let's go to the Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Woo, all right. Alex, thank you so much for kicking us off so generously. Alex has this to say or wants to know, what did you think of the human speech? Wait, wait, that's the first one? On my end, it's a Mayanak. I could be really way wrong. That's what I have first for
Starting point is 01:24:50 Sorry about that he's on a stream from four weeks ago All right, you are correct we have my uncle My uncle my uncle running my eyes here so much and I got your name wrong. Sorry. It's all good Hey coin Greg a non comic question. Thank you. What is your reaction to the cancellation of the late show with Stephen Colbert? I'm a huge fan of his by the way, I'm gonna I'm so interested in a coin has to say I'm not really let him take the mic on this one and I did not know until I got a note until I saw it on YouTube It said the title from Stephen Colbert And I was like is this a joke because I actually haven't been aware of any of this stuff. That's been going on with Paramount
Starting point is 01:25:30 Yeah This is bullshit like I don't even really care for this I don't even really watch it, but it's like it's like canceling the Tonight Show to me like what the fuck This is insane. This is insane. Yeah, I I will be very Honest in all of my different feelings, and I think it is a lot of different things. I think it is a perfect storm of The way media is going first and foremost isn't good for long form and I do think late night television though I love it is not what brings audiences to interviews with the era of podcasts and long-form true, but I do think the highest rated one is
Starting point is 01:26:12 Very suspect with the rest of the timing so I do want to give the asterisks It is the highest rated one so when I say it's the most view one is the number one out does the time I'm a foul in every yeah, so I do want to acknowledge Yes, I see the asterixks of late night isn't doing well I see the asterisks of it is a 200 person staff that is getting Unemployed and all the other things, but it is a large Cost but at the same time I know a lot of costs get offset by viral videos I know Colbert is one of the ones I see pop up more often. I know that's also algorithmic
Starting point is 01:26:41 So maybe it's because of our similar sensibilities, but I know Colbert is number one rated, so it is suspect. The timing is very, very tricky because there are enough things that are lining up with history that it is scary that a acquisition from one company to another could align with a firing of a free speech advocate and I do think it is a dangerous precedent to set that seemingly within hours of an outspoken conversation about your parent company that is looking for an acquisition that is trying to appeal to certain people in power, it being shut down is terrifying. It does feel like censorship to me in addition to all the logistical financial stuff but I also think it is something that when you say oh it's purely financial it feels even
Starting point is 01:27:31 more suspect whenever it goes but wait what so I know that we know those who the people in the power of what you're talking about the acquisition they when is it ever just financial they are very emotionally react when it comes to what they want to do to and the danger of that is this that's a really dangerous precedent because like I Think it's terrifying that we're living in an age where that's even a question and I don't think it is purely hyperbole I don't think it's you know, the people that are always sky is falling I've been really working on my view of politics and my view of you you know, extreme left or right or judging people.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I'm really trying not to be in an echo chamber and I'm really trying not to just look at how I see things as that must be true. I hope even the most opposite of me politically can see how and why it's concerning. And so I'm trying to be respectful to all parties when I say if it is the worst-case scenario this is kind of the canary in the coal mine of
Starting point is 01:28:31 Censorship in a way that is the beginning of the end of a lot of very important things So I don't necessarily know enough to know that's what it is because late night is falling apart because the numbers because the cost But if it is the worst-case case scenario that is a terrifying thing I Think if it was just because of those numbers and late night we would see way more getting canceled Specially because Stephen Colbert is number one. I think what's scary is now I think if they start getting canceled they can say oh well you know it was the end I think this could be a cascading domino of of censorship and controlling the media and all the things like it could then be like oh well that One is financial we got to get rid of them to get rid of them to read or them, too
Starting point is 01:29:08 And it's so scary media needs to adjust how it profits media needs to adjust where it puts its attention if you look at the fantastic for press tour the amount of Embarrassing questions they're getting about like Zaddy and mommy and daddy and Pedro like the way Pedro is treated like an object is gross Because people know it's gonna go viral and That's where the money's going and that's where they're profiting in 2025 new media officially outpaced cable and old media combined the amount of individual Creators that made more money than everything else combined has officially happened so I can understand how the suits go Oh, no, no, we got to get rid of late night
Starting point is 01:29:42 But it is also a huge platform for older generations to get real news and real voices So if we start silencing those voices and we lose any sort of balance and control then one side that has the money having control Is the end of conversation? It scares me or we give JD Vance a talk show 2026 tune in I don't know man. I think all these talks are hosts are way too liberal. I Hear that that's why Thanos exists. I do think we're getting the snap and we're seeing it man. I do In fairness, I do think actually a lot of these talk shows They they all are kind of like the same like hardcore liberal politics
Starting point is 01:30:22 I would argue there they're all the same hardcore liberal in the same hardcore right wing I would argue there's no one speaking What I'm trying to find we have a right wing talk show host bill O'Reilly Tucker Carlson Ben Shapiro I'm like, you know Joe Rogan unlike national like television the way how we have like Jimmy Kimmel Seth Meyers aren't they on isn't Fox News Tucker curls. I don't watch it is I don't know I But I would assume that's the balance right on the same kind of variety Fired I don't he's independent now. I think or he's honest some other bench Shapiro is he a network? I don't know any of this he's on the daily wire which I think
Starting point is 01:31:01 Broadcasts, I don't know if it's a TV network, but they you know broadcast online My point being I think it's important that voices have a place to reach the people that need to hear What's going on in the world and if major networks start? Using this as a financial thing if it isn't if it isn't that's terrifying Well there you have it there. You have it who's's next up here? Thanks for the question. Who is next? It is Christian Unpronounceable. Thank you so much for your generous contribution. Happy Saturday says Christian. Are you guys watching Foundation? What's Foundation? Well let's find out. Is that the Apple TV show? I think it's an Apple show and I usually love Apple so I'm sure I'd like it. It is a TV series with Jared Harris and leap pace
Starting point is 01:31:48 Plus Series of stories by Isaac Asimov. Oh all those words are words I like no, but I would tell you what I did watch that is amazing on Apple Murderbot have you seen murderbot heard good things? I watched ten minutes and I didn't like the tone, but I need to give it more of a chance Oh Oh, man your homeboy does small she ins. Yeah, I love that's why I wanted to watch it No, I think you'd love it. Yeah, okay, so the first four episodes are Their fun their fun quirky sci-fi Then it becomes truly binge worthy like when you get to five and didn't find it funny. I found it trying to be funny
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yeah, no. Oh, yeah, I'll agree like five and didn't find it funny. I found it trying to be funny. Yeah, no Oh, yeah, I'll agree like five and on I was having actual genuine laughter And I really started connecting with all with most of the characters got it So it's it's weird like it's so short though like every episode is less than like 27 minutes. So they're short But yeah the way the plot unfolds and everything and I love the the visuals to it Alexander scars guard I love him. I often find Alexander scar star to be a very underrated actor Like he's usually looked at as you know Bill scars guards like the thespian Deep one who plays weird dark villainous roles and then Alexander's the buff good-looking one
Starting point is 01:33:00 Yeah tables, but I think they're both the peak of that They are both an incredible actors and Alexander scars guard is excellent And that like he literally plays a robot with no genitals. So it's like he's like going against everything about what his type Usually is associated with smart business friends associated with genitals Like true buddies like banging people all the time Northmen I hear it's like it's like that Mary Tarzan is a Yeah, so this side it's like no I'm gonna be shirtless, but no genitals
Starting point is 01:33:34 Don't need a loincloth Tarzan What I think that's an incredibly underrated show and if you guys also haven't I'm thinking of maybe having Asking John and Aaron to maybe react to this here is like a binge worthy season maybe. Shrinking. Oh, you know I love shrinking. Shrinking's incredible. I'm happy to see the response it's getting at the Emmys. I won't say much, but maybe Severance is on the agenda. Ooh, there's a lot of TV shows I realized
Starting point is 01:33:58 I haven't seen, a lot of classics in the upcoming docket. What else we got? All right, next on the super chat block geek factor Thank you so much for chiming in can't stay But just wanted to say hello and congrats on the new studio and everything long love your royal reject from Poland Thank you so much for stopping by an hour and a half ago Our royal to meme are my royal reject Thank you so much. Who else we got? Yeah. All righty, Tony
Starting point is 01:34:31 Tony thank you so much is Pedro said to take over the face of the Avengers the way Robert was and Benedict was supposed to be before they changed directions. What made them deviate from Benedict to bed the role Before they changed directions what made them deviate from Benedict to bed the role Do you hear that man? Shackman quote no what it was I it was like my headline in my my news this week Matt Shackman basically said like the hardest role the cast was read Because he goes from being a scientist to a father to the leader of the Avengers What he said that he said it he just like just that out there just quote Can you find that quote because it look at it? Is that like a?
Starting point is 01:35:08 Film you're not paraphrasing it discussing film, but it's a little longer But those are the beats and I was shooketh because that's crazy. What a reveal That is really big. I should have made my headline like director I know Like not today Yeah, it was a discussing film thing I read because that's the only thing I like to click on on Twitter anymore Director I know Yeah, it was a discussing film thing I read cuz that's the only thing I like to click on on Twitter anymore I just scroll discussing. I mean he is like the smartest man alive So it would be good to have the smartest man alive, but he's an absent-minded side like I don't know if that's a good tech She's not a very good
Starting point is 01:35:39 Pathetic as much as the leader of the fantastic four he struggles with people's yeah Yeah, which is why the Pedro casting, I'm curious how that translates. But a quote from Variety, Matt Shackman, says, he goes from being the nerdy scientist who's locked away in the lab to the husband and the father who do anything to protect his family to the guy who's leading the Avengers.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I realized the version we were building. I can't believe you said that. I have all those elements. What a crazy thing to say. Because we've been wondering for a long time who who the leader will be I didn't even view Benedict Cumberbatch as the potential I felt like they were trying to set that up an endgame and then it just didn't take I think the original plan was Captain Marvel Black Panther and spider-man to be one team. Dr. Strange Anthony Mackie like that was the vibe I got definitely set up Anthony Mackie to be the leader even that what-if episode With the Avengers and Anthony Mack is elite
Starting point is 01:36:26 I thought they're gonna have two Avengers teams and those be the two teams kind of like X-Men But then I don't know what happened Well from the post credit scene it would seem like they were bumping into the Thunderbolts who are the new Avengers Yeah, so yeah, they could and Anthony Matt they established that Sam is filing a lawsuit or some shit So it would it would make sense that our divide similar to how infinity war starts off with the Avengers divided right and then there's a unity in the second one so it could be a similar type of thing Yeah, but yeah, I mean free. That's crazy. Wow weird I think you'd be a fine leader. I just think we're kind of dealing with something of people
Starting point is 01:36:59 You know there's a constant thing of people are I mean I am I'm even there now wondering are we getting too much Pedro? Pascal I am so good the materialist but I really enjoyed him in something like that So I'm like, well, I like him and you know five Avengers Yeah, I hope I can just see him as Reed Reed and not be aware I'm watching Pedro Pascal again, right because it is reaching that point for me. Yeah, like I've everything I've seen him in I just see the character but it is reaching a point like see a lot of Pedro. Yeah And it's that's a weird thing is any even when I see him. I love him I think he's one of the best SNL hosts that we have in our modern era
Starting point is 01:37:37 Yeah, like even then I'm like man, he's amazing but Reed is such a different character than him I'm hoping we feel that like it Reed is so different than Pedro I'm hoping our abundance of Reed won't feel like an abundance of Pedro if all goes well. Yeah, fair enough fair enough Thanks for the question there Tony the Nicka Doug Express thank you so much. Hey Greg 11 year fan of the chain Wow. Thank you. Thank you Nicka Doug 11 years old 11 year fan of the channel.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Are you watching Dexter Resurrection yet or waiting till John and Andrew catch up to it and you'll join in? Thanks. No, Dexter's for me. And now I'm going to be sharing it with a friend and someone who's behind the scenes here. She's actually here right now.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Alex. Hey Alex. Woo Alex. And no one else here, no one else here watched Dexter. I've seen all of Dexter. I've seen the, have you seen all of Dexter? Love Dexter.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Have you seen like New Blood? Yes, I didn't love it as much as I wanted to, but I loved it more than I loved the ending originally Did you see original sin? No? Yeah, so I'm that guy. Okay, so there you go you win you win Dexter dick contest Alex has seen all that. How'd you guys like the new blood? I? Sorry original sin. I like to read you like Okay, yeah, so that's that's so it's worth it it very much feels like nostalgic back to the original Dexter, okay It surprisingly works. I thought it wouldn't work. It's all new cast right at times It looks a little cosplay. Yeah, but it actually gets surprisingly engaging. I'm like what's gonna happen next? What's gonna happen next?
Starting point is 01:39:17 Yeah, when what's the new show called? Resurrection and have you watched the first no it was waiting for Alex to come back? I haven't watched. Yeah, I haven't watched it yet Oh, yeah, I haven't watched it because like jokes is I do not want to react to it I want to just watch it for me and yeah, dokes being back is like suddenly It's like must watch like I was like, oh, that's fun. And the dokes is like why I don't know how fries mother Yeah, that's how I feel about it. Yeah, John's on Season just started season two. We're gonna feel good Yeah, I'm sorry about season five
Starting point is 01:39:54 It dropped off for me pretty I love the trendy killer season and then I remember season five being like half and half and Then once they got to like them being married in real life, and then their brother's sister not like blending into the show I was like what is happening? Do you know that John? Do they got the Dexter Michael C. Hall and Jennifer talking about real life? Yeah, yeah, yeah people have made that Who else we got next up on here all righty we got Diego Guevara. Thanks for chiming in appreciate you Totally off-topic, does Greg still have a Swifty in him? If so, what songs on repeat for you?
Starting point is 01:40:32 Mine is currently Sparks Fly. The first half of the Reputation album, I actually kind of listened to a lot when I worked out still. That tends to be my go-to for Taylor Swift, and the only time I tend to listen to music these days is actually when I'm working out and Yeah, so she's often does pop up on my playlist. I'll always be a Swifty in me I have a wife who has a shrine to Taylor Swift. I can't I can't I can't get rid of my fanaticism They'll be impossible possible escape. It follows you. It's home. Yeah, it's my Snyder Colt
Starting point is 01:41:04 Can't get rid of my fanaticism. It'll be impossible impossible to escape. It follows you. It's home. Yeah, it's my Snyder cult Swifty cold yeah release the swift kidding. I appreciate that Diego. Absolutely Cody bishops up next Thank you so much in your old videos Why did you why did John go by Jerry and Greg by Ryan, right? Also, I can tell you all have matured a lot in seven to ten years I hope so I hope I change every two to three years the short version was we just didn't feel comfortable putting our real names out there so then we found different names and then it evolved for me primarily it evolved into a complete alter ego in a and in a choice to do escapism that primarily relied of me psychologically breaking free
Starting point is 01:41:47 of shackles from religion, upbringing, network marketing, and any other cults I've been a part of. In brief. Yeah. And I didn't realize that until much later. And yeah, like back even growing up, like Friends was too sexual sexual, perverted and sinful, you know. So Ryan Wright was very much like, like I had I was uncomfortable watching Judd Apatow movies. Wow. Because of all the dick jokes and stuff.
Starting point is 01:42:14 And I didn't know how to just laugh at it. I'd be in a theater with people laughing at wedding crashers. And I'm like, I don't I don't know why I feel uncomfortable. So like Ryan Wright was very much birthed from that. And a lot of it honestly has been an unpacking experience in the last year and a half for me. And John and I did a podcast where we really started unpacking it, but that hasn't been released yet.
Starting point is 01:42:33 But yeah, it's a whole thing. Did not know the scope of it. Yeah, I know that the Ryan Wright thing goes so much deeper than people would ever really realize of why. Jerry. He just had another Became something else Really be a multi-hyphenate so it was like yeah We'll come up with other names that we don't get pigeonholed into being just those guys from the internet. Oh man
Starting point is 01:42:59 I love that explanation to get this Emotional I just John I saw spill.com and I was like they use other names so maybe we could do that explanation too. You have this little heartache, emotional. I just, John. I saw spill.com and I was like, they use other names. So maybe we could do that too. Yeah. Let's see. Jeff Carroll, thank you so much for being so generous. We got a two part question here. Sweet.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Unrelated question, but had for a while. Favorite hero slash comic shirt you own and why, not including the merch now available at rejectn nation shop.com including a new Superman a few new Superman and Fantastic Four inspired design I have two one is a moon night shirt passed from uncle to dad to me uncle having owned a comic store for 20 plus years to is Stan Lee wearing the infinity gauntlet and it says st. Stan and Excelsior wore it for a con pic Josh Brolin such a special memory
Starting point is 01:43:50 What's the question favorite here's your shirt not our are based not real rejects My inner bow spider-man base, but different eras of my life my Mine are both spider-man based but different eras of my life my Yeah, my my my one is when I was a kid I have a spider-man shirt that my dad got me that fit my dad But my dad and I often have such the same style that it's a running joke when I get him stuff for Christmas He usually gets like a few Christmases ago We both accidentally got each other the same samurai Jack shirt in the exact same size like my dad and I are so similar both accidentally got each other the same samurai Jack shirt in the exact same size like my dad and I are so similar so When I was younger my dad got this spider-man shirt that he would wear sometimes
Starting point is 01:44:28 But it was for me And I wear it now and it's here with me in LA and it means a lot to me because it shows That connection to my dad I've had for so long and that means a lot to me and then the more recent spider-man shirt That means a lot is One of my bucket list interviews was Jake Gyllenhaal Jake Gyllenhaal has been one of my favorite actors since I was a kid I actually auditioned to play his best friend in a movie about a real person I knew.
Starting point is 01:44:50 The Boston Marathon bombing happened not just near me, but the guy that lost his legs, Jeff Bowman, was a mutual friend of a lot of my friends. And so when Jake played Jeff Bowman, I was still an actor and actually auditioned to play a person I really knew. So I called the person and talked We didn't know each other well, but friend friend
Starting point is 01:45:08 so that really impacted me the Boston Marathon bombing and then Jake playing them and I Auditioned for it thought I did well and I didn't hear back past the second callback So I was like, you know, I got as close I could and I left acting soon thereafter cut two years later I'm doing comic book shopping at Jake Gyllenhaal Jake Gyllenhaal remembers my tape and Jake's like Oh, you're the guy I wanted and it was this really amazing moment of like I did do good in that audit Like it was this really amazing moment and I wanted to mark that moment with buying a comic that I always wanted So when I flew back, I the day I got back found an amazing spider-man I believe it's 65 with Mysterio on the cover.
Starting point is 01:45:46 It's John Amita Sr. It's either 65 or 66. And that same day, the first day I got back, I found this comic. My mom had bought me the shirt of that cover because she didn't think I'd be able to find the comic. So my mom mailed me the shirt. She was like, in case you can't find the comic for a while.
Starting point is 01:46:00 So I have a shirt of the comic that I wanted to celebrate that interview happening with. And the shirt means a lot to me It reminds me of how supportive my family's been and that I accomplished that goal I Have a shirt from a NISO Liva who's a patron and it's this friends. It's the Justice League, but it's in the friends Cute yep. I don't have anything fucking to match that Don't have anything fucking to match that But I do have a shirt I really like
Starting point is 01:46:41 Real rejects I open up all the way beautiful gang alrighty Thank You Jeff my aunt Rana Navarre is a back Hey guys given the positive reactions for the Fantastic Four movie Do you think similar reactions on 25th July will finally mute the Marvel nay sayers? No, I don't think anything will ever mute naysayers nothing nothing mutes naysayers I like let's let's just do for fun. Let's find out right now. I'm gonna look up Superman Oh, well, that's another level of naysay rotten tomatoes over 10,000 plus verified ratings on rotten tomatoes 92% 83% critic that's really high and yet you'll still go to social media platforms that are telling you like it's a terrible thing and everyone hates this movie and it's awful and
Starting point is 01:47:23 telling you like it's a terrible thing and everyone hates this movie and it's awful and They'll be in the comments. They'll be like you the amount of shit I've gotten for just enjoying something for a 30 minute review We had a five hour live stream and it was 99% people popping in for positivity about the movie. Yeah, so Never yeah, and they say it won't happen the same thing mark They like people who are naysayers and negative they they try to magnify What attend take things out of context even box office reports? Yeah, you'll take that out of context and totally Disrecord like where we are today and so like you it's not apples to apples now and so now I don't think I don't think It'll silence any I think on our end we could be like ha see but
Starting point is 01:48:04 It are are you gonna convert barely? I'm like I'm worried about Joseph Quinn as human torch And I think if it's great that'll mute my naysay but I've been very clear from the beginning like I want that I want to be excited and like ex feel the future torch But a lot of naysayers they while nays say I just want to be right and they enjoy the anger I think it's an outlet for them. Yeah Who else we got Johnny? I agreed DJ Kento Thank you so much for chiming in after watching the Russo's output of the past six or so years
Starting point is 01:48:37 Are you all worried about doomsday and secret wars electric state was a mess to me? I? Mean this is been a sentiment that going I've been sharing for quite a while and we've got a we get a lot of shit about it yeah I haven't seen the fact that I haven't seen that movie is not a good sign the electric state right I haven't seen that's not a good sign been interested at all and all the marketing I was like it looks worse everything I like I just haven't been interested I did like the great man, which no one liked but I think our concerns are valid because of the other examples I mean there's a lot to be concerned about with this is we it's not done because Thunderbolts Thunderbolts is great and fantastic for I'm happy to see the response but
Starting point is 01:49:20 doom was not the plan, and it's very apparent that they needed some desperate swing and yeah, their last well received movie was Avengers Endgame, but hey, Spielberg going back to Indiana Jones 4 didn't do anything. You know, Ridley Scott probably will have come around in Prometheus, but back then it wasn't well received and his follow-up Alien movie definitely wasn't either. Yeah. You know, so just because directors return, I'm hopeful. We're different than naysayers. We can be cautious. We can be skeptical But I hope we love you tend to be like I hope we're wrong though
Starting point is 01:49:53 I don't know why you want to be like man this three-hour part of my life, sir Yeah, like I don't know why you'd want that, but I I hope it's great And I think the Russo's are really good at what they do Maybe those other films just weren't what they do well you know I mean you can see the way our thought processes work in movie reactions where We are actively looking for the things we like yeah But sometimes we don't like a movie and the things we likes The things that aren't liking slowly are beating us down and then like by the
Starting point is 01:50:24 Not like the fountain from Guy Richard Yeah, that maybe was the hardest review and I've ever done because of how much we wanted to like it Yeah, and I started disliking it more we talked Yeah Felt like that and we are always positive because that's I think the way to experience life better, but it just wasn't fair Yeah, we try we try to look for the positive but eventually like the on I mean always the honesty of the negativity will will eventually come Out whether we're whether it outshines or doesn't overpower, you know, yeah, but yeah, I'm very skeptical about this All right
Starting point is 01:51:00 Let's see Davion Lucas Daviao Let's see. Davion Lucas. Davion. Cool name. Thank you so much for chiming in. Hi, Greg and Koi and John. Love the channel. What do you think the DCU needs to accomplish to be undeniably successful? Love to hear your thoughts. To me it's kind of a... there's a lot of different versions of how you can quantify what success is, but I think the one that would make it indisputable is when they eventually do their big crossover
Starting point is 01:51:30 movie, presumably a Justice League, and if that's a huge hit, then, bam, huge hit and well received, like, undeniable box opposite, undeniable. Then like, yeah, that's usually just the optics and what we work under. I don't feel personally, personally, I don't think that's what it is. I don't think that's what quantifies it to be success. But I think for undeniable, if we're gonna talk about what can shut down naysayers,
Starting point is 01:51:53 that to me would be the undeniable one. I think short-term making movies that don't lose money, because right now a lot of movies are, and has some profit, but also all the films feeling different I think those are the two very easy short-term Successes they could do is yeah when I see a DCU film and it doesn't feel like the last and doesn't feel like I've Seen this a hundred times and then not lose money. Those are I think my barometer. I think undeniable is
Starting point is 01:52:20 Hitting the very elusive billion that was a lot more popular pre-pandemic I think we moved the bar of how much movies need to make, and then we didn't move it back. So I think the B word is kind of like the undeniable dollar sign. But I don't see that as happening as soon as it needs to for those people. So I wanted that for Superman. I don't, you know, see that happening in the next couple movies, but I do see something like a Justice League
Starting point is 01:52:46 possibly getting that undeniable moment. I was hoping Superman would hit a billion. I don't believe it will. I don't think it will now. The International was a different market than I really thought. It dropped off in China from an already not great opening. And I think-
Starting point is 01:53:04 We've been losing that with China a lot Yeah, I think geopolitically. We're not in a really good spot. Like I don't know if you know, I don't know if Our choices IRL are helping our fictions at the same time. Yeah It's like Superman and Captain America in particular are very like This just seems so American as much as they try to make it true justice better tomorrow It will be read a certain way by people definitely Thank you for the question. Yes, sir. And we got sci-fi extremist next one of our tried and true patrons guiding our Reviews and stuff as well. So thank you so much for being a royal reject
Starting point is 01:53:38 Not sure if you read the vigilante eagly comic One one comic is vigilante the other, the other comic's Peacemaker. Was Gunn behind that? He's overseeing the whole story. He's first built. Number one, do you think James will do more in continuity comics of the comics? And two, what's a character story?
Starting point is 01:54:01 Sorry, let me read this again. One, do you think James will do more in continuity comics and two what's a character or story we might not get live action but would love to see as a comic? Great question. I think we could see more of the characters from adaptation in comics like I could see that path going that way and I think it's a really fun comic. I think it captures the tone perfectly. So one yes to I think there that path going that way and I think it's a really fun comic. I think it captures the tone perfectly So one yes to uh, I think there are some things that don't translate in the medium That would be cool to tell more of the story of I know his goal is to do video games Movies and TV all in the same continuity. I'd love to add comics to that. So I think
Starting point is 01:54:40 Some fifth dimensional imp stuff like some mix of pletilac I could see Bizarro working in a comic maybe better than a movie soon because you wouldn't want to do kind of a double-down An Ultraman I could see introducing characters in comics for the people that are like Oh, we need an origin and then having it movie and that way you can keep the tone and pace So more about like micro examples than actual story, but that's what I'd do Yeah, I think for some of these smaller characters. I was I was imagining like if you did. I'm sorry. What's the actor's name who plays? Jimmy Skylar just Honda Skylar just Honda like if you did some comics was love that that words obviously Skylar
Starting point is 01:55:16 So it's obviously Skylar yeah, I think that'd be cool like yeah I mean that there's some sounds like the fantastic for prequel comic. That's this peacemaker like that. Yes, it's great I think stuff like that they could definitely do more of But I'm also a fan of when they do like oh, it's continued Batman 89 in the comics dude and superman 78 is just as good They're so good. Yeah, that's what I mean stuff like that and I know this is a weird topic Oh, but I I do think if Zack Snyder did want to finish it off in a comic, I think that'd be pretty cool I love smallville season 11
Starting point is 01:55:48 They did Superman comic but it's right as small the lens they go into some cool oven, which is him as Superman. That's cool Yeah, I love that. Yeah Well heck yeah Michelle thank you for chiming in if you could hotel Reverie from black mirror yourself into any superhero film and Experience the film as a character in that movie which one and character would you choose which film and character? Oh? interesting There's always so much danger
Starting point is 01:56:18 Well, it's more about like which character do you want to be it's not in that world It's not lost action hero where you're stepping into a world as a civilian No, hotel reverie and but you see black no. Oh, yes Okay, so the concept of that is like you you get to be the character in the actual plot of the movie Oh cool. You're like living out the plot. Okay. I like that So like which character would you want to ex who'd you want to experience the plot as you know? That's the more the question Recency bias aside any Superman would be fun to fly and have that level of invulnerability
Starting point is 01:57:01 Pretty cool to be Batman. I know it's kind of hard to like not say the most obvious Yeah, they're gonna be like in there like why would I want to be one of the like supporting characters? I feel like spider-man like Yeah, cool that I'm gonna go Andrew Garfield spider-man cuz like I feel like he's got a good amount of control He's dating him a stone He's getting like he's in school which was a lot more of a less responsible time even though he's got a lot of responsibility Andrew Garfield spider-man pretty cool. Oh, I would go This is like one of my least favorite spider-man movies But I would go Tom Holland spider-man far from home traveling say you're traveling you don't
Starting point is 01:57:34 Honestly homecoming probably be the better one because you there's so much that's so light-hearted fair Yeah, you could just enjoy your time Yeah, the other ones I'm like oh, there's so much emotional weight Yeah Homecoming yeah, I would want to be a 15 year old boy I think also like Andrew Garfield's like right at that like about to go into the real world phase That was so cool because you were like smart enough to be an adult but you're not burdened with everything yet yeah yeah and you don't appreciate that then true true I'm going with catwoman in the
Starting point is 01:58:12 basketball scene awesome Ryan movie I've never actually seen hey guys really looking forward to finally having a healthy competition between Marvel and DC it would help bring out the best help bring the best out of each other I feel to finally having a healthy competition between Marvel and DC, it would help bring out the best help bring the best out of each other. I feel as always. Thank you both for all the hard work. Oh, thank you. I 100 percent agree. The fact that we're talking about fantastic for being this good
Starting point is 01:58:37 and how much we enjoyed Superman, that is what a summer like what a July. It would be nice if these two films actually complement each other It's like and if people can feel that and less of the verses. Yeah, it's already turned into a verses Yeah, you know like the fantasy all the box office numbers Yeah, the Superman numbers fantastic for tracking is not looking as high as the Superman tracking is it I thought it was like 110 domestically Okay, if I'm sure man did 127 125. I don't know, but I feel like fantastic for could very much pick up I think it'll be bigger internationally because what we were talking about thousand percent Oh, yeah, I'd be shocked if it's not bigger internationally so I but that's the thing when people will be versing and I suck at
Starting point is 01:59:19 Box office stuff. I really do I'm not I'm not like a good person to go to for this information But that is a thing that's like this is so obvious that that would be bigger internationally Superman like it has to be yeah, I assume, but yeah, I don't like diverse, but yeah, I hope so as well All right Amber H. Wants to know let's see Greg and koi Long time subscriber, but this is my first ever super chat First one ever cool. Thank you long-time listener first time caller just wanted to say hi I adore this channel really glad Sean got a camera. Yeah, it's been out of use
Starting point is 01:59:59 I like that John's camera also it was slightly like crops So you had to duck so it looked like we do trapped because The white background I like ducking get any you're not you're not cutting to you when it's when you're reading your question No cut to John no I Done that I didn't think that was the good thing to do, but I can now no no I'm usually looking at the two of you I just thought on the on the reacting side when we're reacting we should be reacting to the question Yeah, yeah, and reading the tweets Where is Jerry all right all right all right? I'll get back on camera. I have a triple camera
Starting point is 02:00:35 There we go again the ducking kills me looks like we have you trapped in another room. This is like a Metal Gear solid shot all right Who's next who's next who's Todd Andrews okay if anyone wants to get any more super chats in you got one more minute I definitely got one to two minutes because I have a heart out here and I don't want to be I cannot be late for it righty Todd Andrew has this to say, hey guys, long time fan, rewatching Superman tonight. Fantastic Four next. And how, and if they use Doom in First Steps 4,
Starting point is 02:01:16 set up for Avengers thoughts? So if they use Doom in First Steps, how does it set up for Avengers? I don't think, I think Doom will just be in the post credit scene. Yeah, I think I'll just be meeting him and be meeting him or. Something with Frank, which is crazy, because that means next week we can know Doom looks like I think Franklin Richards is so much more important than like the audiences are aware of.
Starting point is 02:01:40 And I think that's going to be a big factor into the ending events of this movie But I do think we'll get a post credit or maybe just the back of them. Yeah, you know yeah Yeah, here's what I'd be shocked if daughter's not a doctor to him in the post credits I almost feel like there has to be it has to be at that point It's like what are you doing more the next thing is doomsday, right? Yeah Spider-man Sony, but it'll not tie in they claim wonder man the show but outside of that Oh, we got eyes of a condo we got wonder man, but I mean like and there's a movie now
Starting point is 02:02:11 It's a it literally goes this spider-man doomsday. Oh Boy, it's out like next year. Yeah. Yeah, I'd be I'd be really surprised but thanks for the question. Thank you very much Absolutely. All right next we got Ethan T. Ethan T. says, hey guys, just wanted to say Greg is my Superman and truly inspires me to be a better man about the Robbie Williams movie. Oh man, you only know me on camera. Everyone here would attest that I'm a pain
Starting point is 02:02:40 in the ass to put up with. For the company! For the company. I am not as, as Greg on camera who's tried, he does his best to always be as real and authentic as possible, but I think off camera Greg is often like,
Starting point is 02:02:56 oh man, I'm just upsetting people. I won't let him be that self-deprecating, I disagree. This is my favorite place to work because of Greg, and I would not give as much of my life to any company I didn't own if it wasn't for the owner being the tit so Greg Is who you think he is even if he doesn't think he's appreciate that same time This company is what it is because it's a collective effort It's a big group effort and we wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for literally everyone in this room right now actually
Starting point is 02:03:22 Yeah, thank you. We are all animatronics all right hey hey Jen Jen all right just saying hi really happy to hear you guys enjoyed Superman hope to see you soon bot Jen Jen is a paid audience member yep we appreciate it here to show up in the super chats Say that things in peace and Jen whenever she catches a live event. She always provides a snack I love the snacks. They really help cuz I forget to take care of myself. Thank you so much Jen for being you Jen Thank you. And oh peace Samir is next and hey, oh looky here
Starting point is 02:04:00 Samir is writing this from the AMC bar waiting for screen number five of Superman Yeah, Warner Brothers just provided him tickets. Yeah He's getting tweet about it. It's not a genuine number five experience. He is gonna be on his phone the whole time Yep, all five have been paid for by Warner Brothers But thanks to me for the super chat that you're able to use because Warner Brothers paid you. Yes. Thank you. Warner Brothers All right century, what's up Bob century alright here? We go watch your language Franklin is still a baby That Omega level baby. I could swear around that baby all the time. He's gonna be reading minds
Starting point is 02:04:38 I don't I don't sensor appear what's Franklin's all grown up in this MCU is like what the hell are we gonna do? I gotta restart yeah, it's like you'd be unstoppable force man. Yeah, we're getting a lot of What's Franklin's all grown up in this MCU is like what the hell are we gonna do? Unstoppable force man. Yeah, we're getting a lot of OP characters I think Valeria might be a way to tie in doom in a cool way That was the daughter that's the daughter and she and doom are like homies. Yeah, so that'd be a fun little dynamic Yeah, you can do a lot of fantastic more with the more and doom and Valeria I mean finally getting fantastic for is huge because of how important they are in the Marvel comics. Like they look, they're so important. First family.
Starting point is 02:05:11 They're so important. This Hickman run, like every character fucking shows up to hang out with them. Yeah. They're very important. So yeah, this could be this could, I could see how Reed is the lead because of the significance of how much tethering there is with him. It's a crazy thing to say about the movie. I know, right? But thanks, Sentry. Yeah, thank you so much. All right.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Creative that you are. Thank you for being so generous. Can we disable the super chats, please? We can disable the super chats. So no more is going to be able to come in, but we will go through the rest that are here. So thank you. Koi, you've got me to read comics with DC Infinite.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Yes. And I've especially I didn't Who promotes DC infinite more than like koi promotes comics? I promote the fucking app so much Greg doesn't watch my studio showcase or high-volume show because that's how I wrap every episode I know yeah that every episode is short But I am like a casual person dropping it early on all the time. That's true That's right. I've been trying to be the eye line for those who don't want to buy It's effective. Yeah, except for this guy who I got whatever whatever. Thank you. I'm the owner of the company All right, thank you creative
Starting point is 02:06:24 He says I was I'm not even sure what I'm reading. All right, thank you, creative. He says I'm a super, what else did you say? Yeah, I'm especially super focused on learning more about the characters announced in the DCU so far. But I want more of Hawk Girl. Any books for her, Koi? You know, Hawk Girl is a really tricky character because there's three iterations, and honestly, there are so many different because like the Thanagarian stuff with the
Starting point is 02:06:47 reincarnation everything is crazy I don't even know if they're gonna do the reincarnation stuff because that's technically a different Hawkgirl but it seems like a very James Gunn thing to do and combine anyway I would recommend if you want Hawkgirl what I've been recommended is the Justice League Unlimited cartoon is apparently everyone's take on Hawk Girl. If you do want to read the comics, I would definitely recommend the Golden Age stuff. So like mid 50s, Hawk Girl is awesome. And it's like fun of the time language. Modern runs New 52 works, but it's not my favorite.
Starting point is 02:07:18 There's no current Hawk Girl comic that I'm like in love with. She's a very tricky character. But Golden Age and Justice League unlimited be my Rex hell. Yeah Hell yeah, you're spurs on the DC infinite app That's how Greg reads all of his comics even the Hickman's fantastic Read I read it I don't want to get the Marvel limited. I just want to jailbreak it import Alrighty, thank you, creative. Amara Mawie, thank you so much for jumping in from Egypt.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Cool. How's it going over there? Hey dudes, how much change to class comic characters do you think is acceptable for it to be new and fresh? That's why I think comic movies are so hard. I think it depends on the popularity of the character Like Aquaman kind of upset some people but most people were pretty on board for it, you know It just always depends on yeah on which com character if you know a Batman or Superman
Starting point is 02:08:16 There's like certain things you have to like stay true to immutable mutables You know like I'm sure even for mr. Terrific if they wanted it like a lot of people don't know mr. Terrific So James could have done whatever the hell he wanted Yeah, I metamorphose you know whatever the hell he wanted would have been fine for any it seems like he did so Yeah, it just depends on the level of that, but I don't know I don't really have a clear cut one black and white answer to this um I do agree that as the starting point I think there are certain things that make the character the character so even if they're decently obscure those should stick But I think as long as the foundation of what the character represents is there
Starting point is 02:08:55 You you are adapting not translating. It's not a one-to-one. It's an adaptation for a new medium So as long as the heart of the character is there I think the problem is when you try to translate I think that's why the David Harbour hellboy didn't work or when you try to change so much that it doesn't feel like the character So it is a fine line But I think that the comic audience is such a small percentage of the box office that as long as the story is good in The movie is good, and they don't change those immutables. You're okay I mean like peacemaker and vigilante in that are so different yeah but now the comics are like lame now yeah now there be another like influence in the comics all right there we go all right
Starting point is 02:09:35 Nona everybody kiss your Nona thank you so much for chiming in koi did you watch the fantastic four girlfriend clip of Johnny? He did not least no shows more of Johnny's personality You know, you don't want to know I am sure I will see it on Monday I will see the entirety but appreciate your super chat. It's very kind of you and I'm sure it does. Thank you so much I will let you know Monday when I thought of that moment not clipped Alrighty, we got Christian back in the chat Christian unpronounceable All righty, we got Christian back in the chat Christian unpronounceable Alrighty, please give the stream a like everyone it helps the channel greatly. Well, thank you. Thank you for doing a super chat
Starting point is 02:10:17 Chat to encourage a like you and it's true. It will help out this dream. Thank you so much Please leave a like on this video. Thank you Thank you Christian present. Thank you guys who have been contributing the super chats By the way, like does not go unnoticed like these are your hard-earned dollars. So thank you Alrighty, let's see. Who do we got Amber? Amber H? I know it's my that's my I'm scrolling thing to say cool boy That feeling of if I slow down it'll get me is so relatable Thank you both for being so real and transparent about mental health.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Ah, DHD here, sending love and good vibes from South Georgia. Yeah, that's why I think it's important to intentionally slow down. Doing the hardest part of any exercise for me in this whole workout has been cardio. Specifically the cardio when it's at the gym, because I have to stay stationary. And I'm going to mainly be with my own thoughts. And my mind's racing. So sometimes I'm like, Okay, I have to do a high incline for 30 minutes. But then
Starting point is 02:11:15 I just want to run because I'm too like, I start getting anxiety. Yeah, because I'm just stationary for a half hour. But then I have to sit with it and a big part of slowing down. That's why I think meditation's good because people think meditation's about getting rid of all your thoughts. And really it's just about getting in tune with your thoughts, getting in tune with the present and letting the feeling of uncomfortableness
Starting point is 02:11:36 and anxiety pass is a great thing. So oftentimes if I do elliptical at the gym, I'll just close my eyes and let the rush and the anxiety flow through me. And then I'm like kind of in a calm state like I didn't meditate today So I'm perhaps a little bit more anxious But I did stretch for like a half hour this morning. I haven't worked out in two weeks I haven't meditated in about a year And I feel the workout absence first and then when that gets so bad, then I notice I haven't meditated,
Starting point is 02:12:06 so I'm trying to bring those back in August when my work slows down a bit. But I do definitely struggle from that exact sentence, and I appreciate you appreciating it, because I think talking about stuff is the only way to navigate it. So being transparent, I'm glad it's appreciated, because it makes it easier for me to do it.
Starting point is 02:12:24 Absolutely, thank you. Heck yeah, all right, Flipnote Frog, bit of an unrelated question. So being transparent, I'm glad it's appreciated because it makes it easier for me to do. Absolutely. Thank you. Heck yeah. All right. Flipnote frog, bit of an unrelated question. Thank you for chiming in. Thank you, Flipnote. Do you guys plan on reacting to bring her back
Starting point is 02:12:34 Rack-O-Racka's new movie? That's cool that you guys still call them Rack-O-Racka. Thanks for the super chat. It's not currently on the list, but I definitely one day will watch it. I think their last movie, Talk to Me, is brilliant. Oh, it's those guys. I love talk to me. Yeah, okay I hear this one is more like depressing and less horror Just like I've been in a yeah, there's been some things up
Starting point is 02:12:59 Okay, so when we did strange darling Roxy, and I a big part of that was like this might not get any views but we just experienced human centipede and I hated the experience of that film. I really did make for a good reaction I'll tell you but I am like I really did not like sitting through it. Yeah, and watch part two and It's good reaction the Good reaction But yeah, I was like we she's like no we should just do whatever's best for the challenge We have something else we're gonna cover and I was like we owe it to ourselves. Just watch
Starting point is 02:13:35 And yeah, I want to With that one sounds I'm sure I'll love this movie, but it sounds so So hard Sometimes you got to just like take care of you and then worry about business second and sometimes I am craving the heavier stuff Yeah, you know sometimes I want to watch a warrior or Shawshank, but then lately I've been in like I need something more Levity wise like I'm on naked gun right now. I'm on I go home. I watch Veep. You know like yeah, it's funny I struggle with comedy so much that sometimes when I have a comedy those are the hardest things to watch because I'm worried about People being like why didn't you laugh? Yeah, so it's really funny like airplane was such a relief that I loved it And I haven't seen naked gun, but I imagine it's a similar thing
Starting point is 02:14:15 But I remember when when you gave me South Park, I was like well, that's a death sentence So it's so funny how like comedy to me is the dread when it's just it's so specific I think comedy is the hardest thing to translate well They see sometimes though I can be in such a burnout or so sad that sometimes the comedy is actually not really hitting for me Yeah, I'm just in such a different state that I'm not as able I could I'll change myself a little more lighthearted But I might not be as willing to laugh. Yeah, and then I'm trying to like let that out But I also want to fake and force so it's like it was a little hard I don't watch a lot of TV. I watch a lot more movies hard watching comedy
Starting point is 02:14:47 But like I watch a lot of movies not TV But I'm finding more and more like the TV bite-sizedness is so much better for comedy for me Like I'm watching Issa Rae show and it's so funny But like I've never seen Seinfeld and that's such a thing that's like I know it's it's formative But will it be like friends where it hits me just right or is it before my time like so it's it's really interesting with Comedy where I want to try more TV. I want to watch Owen Wilson's new show. I heard stick. I've heard It's great to it's amazing and Timothy Olyphant in it, right? Yeah, you know a show really the show that really did help my emotions and make me feel but shrinking really the shrinking show means
Starting point is 02:15:21 A lot to me because it really did Help me out like I felt like that was the show I needed at the time the bears that for me even this season which nobody's talking about the bear I always on yay and I were watching it and she was like what what is that like what does the show do for you and I was like they're having all the emotions out loud I feel in here but I can't and I feel like I can actually externalize my emotions through the bear because I so identify with the the bear character like What car me goes through and the way he experiences like perfectionism and always needing chaos to like slow him down because he's so kinetic
Starting point is 02:15:53 It really is I think that's how I get shrinking like for me Seeing his panic and seeing his pure stress and his rage like I'm so full of rage to see it in a character I'm like yeah, so the bear is that amazing. Yeah, I watch my bring her back just to close that out Is the rare movie I've heard many critics say basically like ice what I saw was good, but the subject matter was so Harsh that I had to stop and it's like you got to know going into it if you want to subject yourself to it Apparently because it involves kids But thank you so much for chiming in Aaron Koval is next going into it if you want to subject yourself to it, apparently, because it involves kids. But thank you so much for chiming in.
Starting point is 02:16:26 Aaron Koval is next. Aaron says, hello guys. Thank you, Aaron. Very generous. Hello guys. Big standout for the Batman 2022 was Greg Fraser's contribution to the storytelling. If he is unable to return as director of in part two would you like to see? The cinematographer aficionado
Starting point is 02:16:50 Then I don't want to just say Who's the one who did Bill Pope Bill Pope? He's done a couple of Marvel movies hasn't he yeah in the matrix. Yeah, even matrix is how to train a dragon Yeah, very recently in a dragon. I like Bill Pope That's a good pull I'm still gonna go I like not trying Yeah, Roger Deakins Roger Deakins is undoubtedly the best yeah
Starting point is 02:17:20 To be fair Bill Pope did spider-man 2 & 3 oh I'm gonna look up Bill Pope seem the thing is with Roger deacons is Roger deacons seems like he's gonna do whatever the fuck He wants and it's gonna be great Bill pope really seems like he's he he adjusts to what the director really wants sure which is probably more what a cinema target Sure, which is probably more what a cinematographer ought to be But I think but I think Roger Deak is just like this looks like a Roger Deakins movie more than it looks like a director's Movie and Bill Pope adjusts to other directors. I think Jeff Cronenworth What do you do? He did fight club? He did he's mainly David Fincher and that's Fincher. That is the style Matt Reeves I love a spouse. So gone girl
Starting point is 02:18:07 Yeah, like that's the one that'll keep style Matt Reeves I love a spouse so gone girl like yeah, that's the one that'll keep it Matt Reeves He because he yeah, yeah, so Jeff Carman worth that be cool great question damn like that made me Google Talk cinematographers alright Todd Andrew is next as they're so slept on we talk about movies I'm like I got to Alex as someone who has no interest in any of this stuff. How bored are you be honest? You're not Didn't watch Superman. You don't give a shit about fantastic four. We're talking about cinematographers Alex was the perfect person to hire because she doesn't know any of this stuff So it makes it easier to just have her do her job She won't get distracted yeah, I need to bring like real operation
Starting point is 02:18:48 All right Slowly becoming my sonum obsessive Another reference you will not There's a cinematographer his name is similar to his last name who's shot a bunch of stuff Let's see. Let's see how qualitative we can make this in 20 minutes all right Todd Andrew you got 20 here We go Tom Holland Jacob Lordi and Harris Dickinson at the top of rumor for James Bond List also to star Cindy Sweeney as a bong Bong girl is a bong girl the girl who hands James bong his bong
Starting point is 02:19:25 Yeah, how do you feel about Paul's process James ball? I? Don't want Tom Holland. That's a for sure I'm not that familiar with Harris Dickinson Jacob already has a darkness to him. I really enjoy yeah And I think he's really good at proving he's more than just some pretty tall guy Like he's a he's a so captive. He's a he's a phenomenal actor. I think after bright burn He's my pick because he has that rich aristocracy, but something under a burn Not bright burn salt burn sulfur. Oh, yeah, the other dual. So it was like he was the child I'm right kid. No, no salt burn. He has that I'm a rich dude, but I got something underneath it which I think bond needs have you seen the Priscilla movie?
Starting point is 02:20:10 Replayed Elvis yeah, oh my god. He's so good. He's good, but he's not he's not fucking Austin Butler We've got stuck as Elvis the problem was I saw it no well so close to He played Elvis as the antagonist yeah, but I was like that's someone playing Elvis then Austin Butler's like I am Elvis I I thought he was captivating a shit in that I liked him so much more in salt burn But I think that's a closer one-to-one to bond and I like and he's also before you where he's stem from yeah Incredible and for you too. I watched you for you, but I like a Lordy Harris Dickinson was so good in baby girl What's the one of the gold kiddin the horn horniest movie of Christmas ever say baby girl. Yeah, baby girl He's so good and baby girl cuz have you seen it he's able to be like really
Starting point is 02:20:53 Enchanting and there's a power struggle between the two of them the whole movie and there's these power and character dynamics that change Throughout the film to the point where you're watching and you're like who's in control of this scene And I think that'd be really cool with bond because he's Always manipulating the people in the room and clearly hair stick and so can do that So I think either of those two would be great. Yeah, so it's jake will Lord is like eight feet tall So yeah, be a terrible spy. It's true It's like my Alan urges in his Batman things like the white guy Todd Andrew yes also Hoyt van Hoytema to your question Things like the white guy Bruce Wayne All right
Starting point is 02:21:33 Todd Andrew yes also Hoyt van Hoytema to your question Aaron Koval is working mad Rees before the oh Cindy sweetie is a bond girl Yeah, I'm okay. I don't think we need that I Like Cindy sweetie a lot. I do I think she I think she's a boss. I think she's a fucking underrated like she's a great entrepreneur. She's a Money and handling her business Yeah But if the bond girl is gonna be like a seductress that is making people think she's dumber than she is but it's actually great A business. I think you need a really great actor, but I think the bond girls have also risen I feel like if you put Sydney's me as a bond girl She's likely to be positioned as a bond girl and not like oh when you had
Starting point is 02:22:10 Halle Berry a femme fatale like no like a real fucking real evergreen That's like we have like a real like character there. Yeah, you know, I love Michelle. Yo, she's my favorite favorite bond girl I think she was the first one like really kick some ass. Yeah, my favorite bond girls from Austin Powers Elizabeth Hurley's my favorite Oh my god Yeah, but I would gladly sleep with a prostitute instead of her Is that a joke you've grand cheated? That's right, which is the weirdest thing I'm like really Do you what what do you do? Nothing to do with the look. It's a whole different thing
Starting point is 02:22:42 What what process what do you do? What that has nothing to do with the look it's all different thing for me. Yeah, come on man All right are never gonna. Let you hold that thing down that mistake you made like 40 years ago, man That's right never let you hold it down Doesn't do you grant? Yeah, he'll ask him all right arc Archi however you say your name. Thank you so much for chiming in a super fantastic stream. Stay safe you two. Thank you Thank you so much moving chiming in a super fantastic stream. Stay safe, you two. Thank you, thank you so much. Moving on. Super fantastic. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:23:08 Davion Lucas, will DC shows failing affect HBO or just DC? Has one failed? I think the question's more but what if? If DCU shows fail, will that affect HBO as a whole or justice? No, you're dealing with two very different expectations And I don't think and James Gunn has been very clear that you don't he's often being like you don't really need to watch this Other one to understand this other one. Yeah, so you know if the shows are not doing well They probably like backpedal a little bit on doing more of those and just stick to ones that are hits like the penguin
Starting point is 02:23:45 Did so well peace maker one did so well You can honestly have like huge shows But if the movies are failing then you can they're gonna have a you could have a huge fucking problem on your hands if the movies Are failing but the shows are doing great. Yeah, but it's nowhere near as detrimental if the shows are not doing well And what the movies are doing great, you know, yeah We see different numbers and optics and like we don't compare box office revenue to like What do they call that the code or whatever the like ratings shows can also stand? to the
Starting point is 02:24:13 students show Networks or whatever love if they can just get fucking awards Yeah So even if they're not huge if they can get awards that like whatever increases their brand visibility right they they really care about that so like penguin winning shit Raw dog Jay Naughty boy all right does my boy coy Smoke the herb before reaction never seen coy smoke. I hope yes It would be an honor his eyes are bloodshot sometimes
Starting point is 02:24:49 I wish it was recreational bloodshot. I'm exhausted. No tiredness. I can't smoke weed. It's it's a it's a chemical It does not suit my brain. I spin out. I think aliens are stugging me I think caught my parents are cops or FBI agents I get so paranoid that people think it's laced and then they take it and they're like, that is my fear. That is, I think what's happening. I've had only bad experiences with weed. I used to try to do something every year and fail and would have a panic attack every year when I tried it that once
Starting point is 02:25:15 because I want something to slow me down. What you see before you is merely a broken man. Yeah. Well, we love to see it. Thanks, John. All right, Robert. Yeah Well, we love to see it Thanks John Alright, Robert Preuser Everyone who smokes weed knows the rule You bring eye drops So if his eyes are red, it's not because he's high
Starting point is 02:25:34 No, it's just because I've failed at taking care of myself You should bring some eye drops for the next time you're Overworked and sleep depraved We should just have eye drops here Can you do eye drops? Me? Yeah I do eye drops here here probably I can you do eye drops me. Yeah, I do Eye drops every single day really I wake up and my eyes are just I I am NOT a Morning, I have to my I wake up all I wake up my thoughts are racing lately I've been having to put on slow race literally a track called slow racing thoughts and and my eyes
Starting point is 02:26:03 They're so they're so like bloodshot red and I have to do eye drops every morning It's very good to know when I have the bachelor party and I see you in the morning that it's not something that went wrong Yeah, yeah, I'll still be in my calorie deficit then so I can't participate Yeah, I dropped like ever since Star Trek I had to wear those contacts that messed up my eye and like it's so intense to me Like anything near my eye, but yeah, I'm just tired. Yeah, I work out with contacts. I'm used to it Oh, that makes sense. eye and like it's so intense to me like anything near my eye but yeah I'm just tired yeah I work out with contacts so I'm used to it oh that makes sense yeah all right Robert Pruiser thank you so much for joining in do you think we will get a Jessica Cruz and or Kyle Rayner tease and a quote would like yes or name drop in
Starting point is 02:26:39 lanterns I think the big DCU mystery that starts in lanterns is related to try gone or parallax prop gonna see Sinestro thoughts Sinestro. Yes, I've been I've been loudly every time we film Showcase I try to mention Kyle Rader either at like lunch or like walking by offices. I'm trying so hard I have no power in creative, but if they're ever gonna get incepted It's me in the walls going Kyle Rayner. I even I even brought it up in my interview with James Gunn I did it at the end like I I put it where I thought it might get cut in case it was a problem But I literally was like hey Kyle Rayner like I had Tourette's I want Kyle Rayner to Good pick good pick. Thanks for the question. right Dalton Cain. Thank you so much What if they stop Galactus with a false sense of victory only for an incursion to destroy their universe?
Starting point is 02:27:31 Forcing them to flee at the end maybe the incursion does factor in already And we did see it in dr. Strange and then Galactus is like your planet is doomed anyway Yeah, let me have your baby and Get in my belly my belly Yeah, let me have your baby and Yeah, I think incursions be a factor I'd be very surprised that they're not yeah I mean we've set it up and that's so yeah read Richard they beat Galactus incursion happens that an isle is shows up It's a non-stop Well you heard it here lobster Lobstar, here we go. I'm just reading comics for the day
Starting point is 02:28:08 when I can't be here anymore. Yes. I will book all of these. I need to gather 40 years of comic book knowledge and buy one brand. Need the same Wexicon. Just in case. And now I need to become a gaming expert
Starting point is 02:28:22 because games are taking off in the interview. No. Mr. Dick. All right, Lobstar. I try not to drop. And now I need to become a gaming expert because games are taking off Why do you look so tired great I know Lobster thank you so much I hope Wonder Woman is at least 510 to 6 to in height I know really tall actresses tend to be overlooked cuz they're freaks tall tall woman shouldn't be allowed She'd be tall and they intimidate me. I can't be around them really no No, I thought I was learning something new about you. I was like what a reveal after We set you weird specific aversion. I'm inferior to you lady. I don't like you being above me this moment of height
Starting point is 02:29:18 I personally care more about acting than than height with that as long as they're not like five two I think they'd be great if they have the stature of an Amazonian I think height is important for them don't worry worry. Like I think, you know, Wolverine being tall was a distraction, but then we were like, well Hugh Jackman's so perfect, we can overcome it. But I think an Amazonian is by definition tall. So as long as proportions don't look short. And I think looking strong and like a warrior is also key. So I wouldn't want a tall skinny woman
Starting point is 02:29:41 if it meant that was tall for the sake of tall, but I would want, I think acting musculature over five seven are my main order of I Don't really follow wrestling and I don't really mean I don't follow wrestling and I do know that Like the way how especially What's the proper term Alex female wrestler woman wrestler lady wrestler West I? Know but what is not the what's the What's the not offensive word is there any of those offensive?
Starting point is 02:30:18 No, I think I just don't know anymore wrestler s gorgeous lady. I just don't know The ones with vaginas They lady wrestlers, you know before there was just like you're hot and sexy put you up there now it's like they're they get like real fucking like performers, you know, and We've seen male wrestlers turn actors to some greats John Cena Yeah, Batista Dwayne Johnson, and I don't really have a correlation like that with any Female women lady wrestlers and I think that for Amazonian I'm like Oh if you if you want to like look for a performer who maybe has the stature
Starting point is 02:31:05 Yeah, I'm like oh actually maybe look in that department I've not seen a lot a lot of the fan cast and they say a wrestler I then I watch him looking I would love if we find the John Cena of the female wrestling Yeah But I'd also love to see like I was talking to Katie O'Brien at a screening the other day and I was like this is You are so powerful looking like Katie O'Brien was just like standing in Front of me, and I was like I want to arm wrestle. She is a beast Yeah
Starting point is 02:31:28 And like I was but in just standing in front of someone like sometimes when you see a guy and you kind of like square Up because you're like that person was like that with Katie O'Brien I was like this person's awesome and scrappy and built like I want the Wonder Woman to feel like that. Yeah me too Well, all right Becky Lynch Wonder Woman you heard it here Lobstar here we go No, no, we just did lobster. Thank you again. I just want to say thank you Spidey sensei Why are people not getting so why are people getting so hung up on Superman having a harem? What woman want a super orgasm?
Starting point is 02:32:03 JK1 the harem was something that was augmented by Lex Luther and the Barovian president because Americans are prudish not that that was genius because the first thing that's gonna make them American uncomfortable the idea getting some booty to that man has ice breath ice cubes are very useful if you know what you're doing that man has super speed you got some versatility there that man has a lot of powers that would make some super women super happy, so I agree if you're gonna have a harem he could take care of a few at a time Yeah, yeah I once wanted to do a sketch of the flash like having just going at it where it's like
Starting point is 02:32:38 He's just he's just looking at Iris, and then you go into the flash So he just speeds in it's like so many serious people in the Justice League And then she's like like is that it's suddenly like Because he can go to town now you could do like 60 minutes worth in a second and be so happy for all the women Involved he can handle a harem. Yeah P. All right. Thank you. Spidey sensei Daniel son. Thank you so much I am tired of talk shows last thing I want is to hear a last thing. I want to hear is politics I'm trying to escape reality and I just want to hear some jokes and interview
Starting point is 02:33:14 Tds is real and what TDS is well, you know, there's something to be said though about politics in comedy is that was a gateway for me to start understanding politics and it because of the framing of it like if you watch like a Jon Stewart or whatever when they're not like people yelling at the camera to be able to find the humor in it makes it feel less devastating you know I'm not saying you should only get your political news from like comedians, but some I think there's something there's benefit though in Experiencing like the political comedy
Starting point is 02:33:51 That's just my take them. I don't know what TDS means, but I It me it commonly refers to quote trumped arrangement syndrome a slang term used to describe an extreme and irrational dislike of former now again president Donald justice Trump okay no comment no comment all righty well thanks for that Daniel son we're moving on to Aidan Doherty very generous of you appreciate it hey y'all glad I got to watch this live. Would y'all ever have General super chat thing you know would y'all ever have other reaction youtubers on the pod fuck that Specifically ones who are already have a live podcast running up themselves all them heroes were forged by all The dead to me screw Adam have like he didn't just hit me up There's gonna be an LA and that we should do a podcast together did he move
Starting point is 02:34:43 He's not in LA. He's in California isn't yeah didn't realize that I say I'm often enough that I just assumed I didn't just have a double date with media nights Greg hates you to tell me who they are so I Greg's always like you should know this person I was like what's that? I don't really want to have Natalie gold on for an interview to hell. Yeah I have to hit her I Gold on for an interview to hell. Yeah I have to Actual I was waiting for this to be built okay, that's fair. I was like nose. Yeah, I don't
Starting point is 02:35:16 Done this but Greg never asks for anything I'm gonna make sure I do a thing and then he's like six months later I interviewed I asked Eric from blind wave if we could do a video together He said yeah, but last time I followed up. I haven't heard back So you can rot in hell all do you guys now from blind? Yeah, if you don't respond first out I did a live stream with Eric boss here. It was a very successful Brandon's on Sunday So yeah, there's a I would love to have other people here I'd like to sit down talks and interviews maybe the pod yeah but I like getting to know people why would I want to get to them off camera that would be what a waste of time and effort earnings
Starting point is 02:35:53 chilling in the other room all right all right speaking of people we want to get to know to Monty Lavelle thank you so much for chiming into the chat real rejects seem pretentious but I gave you guys a chance last year. Wow. Bold opening. I respect it. Go wait for more, Koi.
Starting point is 02:36:12 Just wait for more. All right. All right. I gave you guys a chance last year. And now a daily watch. Koi wasn't my fave. Yes! This made him top three.
Starting point is 02:36:21 And he's kind of hot. Love you all. That was a shirty. love you all that was a surety Love you all but shout out to Roxy Okay, this is what everywhere The fact that at no point did I know the next word much less nice beat of where that was going commendable the back Do you open up with like a diet fuck you respect? But also I'm glad we could appeal to whatever
Starting point is 02:36:44 Respect but also I'm glad we could appeal to whatever Message of the day that's that's really I'm glad you came around We you know that phrase don't judge a book by its cover I feel like as a reaction channel you it's so easy to judge a book by its cover with any reaction channel because you're looking For like a big face usually so it looks like you like everything until you like watch the video, and then you find out hey they really didn't like Captain America Brave New World You know I think it's so just the idea for dentists and people like watching movies and t-shirts But I'm glad we can convince you otherwise, and thank you for joining Okay, so we got just a few more of those kids go Let's do it we can do it, but we could end the next 10 minutes And we make my thing speed round all right lobster
Starting point is 02:37:26 Thank you for trying back in if either of you haven't read it I would recommend Superman American alien a super underrated modern Superman comic koi have you heard of it? I have it's a great miniseries. It's it's very inventive. It's a great characterization. I agree. It's good American alien yeah, max landis Oh good No comment I agree. It's good American alien. Yep, Max Linus Go good No comment I'll talk about Trump all day Like ten years ago
Starting point is 02:37:57 There's no Epstein list it's not real it's not real there was never any what a boring story that's the newest so dull Anyway, love star. Thank you so much, Manny Hey guys love the channel. Are you guys reading the absolute DC comics? These have come up a couple times lately my favorites are flash and Wonder Woman. They are sick Love y'all's work kind of get Greg reading them my favorites are Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman They are so inventive which What's wrong would you start with? Batman is the most clear cut of like whoa. It's like the ultimate spider-man of them I think ultimate Martian Manhunter is the boldest of them
Starting point is 02:38:36 And I think the most approachable of them is Wonder Woman because it literally is instead of Paradise Island She was raised in hell, so it's this really like 80s metal van awesome So it's really an easy read, but I think the greatest one is Martian Manhunter because it's so psychedelic. It's so introspective They're all different, but Martian Manhunter is my favorite I feel like I want to get to know like Martian Manhunter from the comics first It's a very different one and then before I hop in yeah, it's not John John's in the way at all Yeah, it's the most different of them actually That's what I mean. I want to that's why I haven't like I could hop in like Superman and Batman right because you know those characters
Starting point is 02:39:10 Yeah, but the other ones I'm like I want to get to know them from the comics before you see the subversion exactly Alright Joaquin Braun Hey gents koi after watching Superman. Do you want to see any wild storm characters in this new DCU as a die hard? Fan, I have my fingers crossed on more after we got the engineer and that's, you know, a very fascinating, you know, launching point. I love the Jenny Sparks comic that just came out. I love the Jenny Sparks comic that just came out. I actually got it from my dad while he was in town. Jenny Sparks is the spirit of the 20th century and Jenny Sparks herself representing the 20th century when we're in the 21st century, I think is a really
Starting point is 02:39:53 fun time element like she chain smoke, she wears fashion of that time. I think with the 300 year span of metahumans, it would really be really cool to have a character that represents a time. And I don't think I've ever seen that in comics before. I see characters representing an era like as in Going to that era right like Captain America in his era or being a fish out of water But he doesn't like represent the 40s I would love Jenny Sparks being a figurehead of the 20th century in the present. I think it'd be cool Not from the character, but thanks for she's cool
Starting point is 02:40:23 Hey Not from the character, but thanks for she's cool Hey Demani Lavelle. This is a lovely one by the gray by the way Greg you look great I might have to get G fuel In terms of products that I actually Like like the fuel I I definitely use like at least once two times a week liquid IV I use practically every single day But now I mean there's like other I don't know I was sobering so late I made it like a desirable and I was eating it in the car right here like the biggest Do you see the sink just a giant boy? Like protein it really is diet like diet really changes everything yeah
Starting point is 02:41:08 but I Want to have a pee I'm going to Colorado in September, and I want to have a pizza on there Yeah, it's going leaving the day after my birthday So I'm hopefully I could get this photo done and do that rip for your birthday man, and then actually have a birthday Yeah, I know But thank you. That's really kind. Thank you. Thank you Destined thank you so like I've been taking compliments like that for granted. Thank you. Thank you You are you're I saw your you changed shirts yesterday. I was like damn
Starting point is 02:41:35 Did it damn damn Destined thank you so much for chiming in Superman leaned heavily on score Do you think that perhaps Supergirl could lean heavily on soundtrack? I'm getting that vibe, good question. I'm getting that vibe, yeah. Lean further on soundtrack to distinguish that she isn't just quote genderbent Clark. If yes, what songs would you use?
Starting point is 02:41:56 Oh, I love this question. I'm just a girl. Barbie? I think it'll be like a nice alt 90s rock soundtrack. I could see like some Fiona Apple. I could see some like the toadies kind of sound. I could see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, as I could see.
Starting point is 02:42:20 Oh, that's fun. I like that a lot. Yeah, that energy like the AAS and and like aggressive 90s and 2000s rock would be really cool If you were to ask me James Gunn's gonna do a DC movie between Superman Supergirl, which one I'd be like Oh, definitely Supergirl. Yeah, like I feel Supergirl would be more the vibe So but then Craig Gillespie such a great like I Tonya and Cruella Yeah, I can see the DNA of how he's gonna make Supergirl between Lars and the real girls like a depth
Starting point is 02:42:50 Personality choices Cruella's production design. I Tonya's humanity. Like I'm so excited for this movie. All right I'm excited to say to you. I just got a couple how many we got four more left four or five Give me some cardigans or something and then we got one more one last stream lab tube so cranberries Yeah, we could go Cohen. I'll do a separate music podcast about that dragon soldier Thank you for being so generous good to see you guys have you ever seen your city featured in a movie highlighting a different? Location around here. Oh, yeah, I got to be a metropolis civilian in Superman and all I could And all I could from metropolis was cleave all I could get from metropolis was Cleveland Okay, well most of the time when it's like in LA or something
Starting point is 02:43:33 It's it's in LA because I've seen like places we go to all the time streets no matter what city I'm featuring so many shows and movies the one time I really caught like that is not where Dunder Mifflin in the office is located. There was an episode where they were traveling on the street and I'm like, oh shit, this is like right down the street from where I live. And I'm like, that's not where Scranton, Pennsylvania is. That is down the street from me.
Starting point is 02:43:56 Yeah, it's like a whole strip. So yeah, that was the one time I caught that. We had a couple of those during Brooklyn 992. We were like, that's not Brooklyn, that's Los Angeles. That's Burbank. That's downtown Yeah, I was in this movie our IPD and they reshot the ending a few times And it was really funny to see Boston not Boston Boston Yeah, Boston and it would be like between takes like it'd be on this coverage than this coverage to be a different city
Starting point is 02:44:17 But you'd only know if you knew this coverage and that was really funny so I was like they teleported they teleported Yeah, so it's fun. Oh, yeah sci-fi oh and that crashed all around these parts Sci-fi extremist thank you so much for chiming back in what pre MCU solo film do you wish got a sequel? pre Something like a Marvel movie. Oh, oh, oh, thank you. Thank you. That's so obvious now um
Starting point is 02:44:43 Any movie pre-MC. 2008 and earlier. We got so many sequels. Fantastic Four got a sequel, Ghost Rider got a sequel, Spider-Man got a sequel, X-Men got a sequel. Daredevil. Besides Howard the Duck. I don't know if Daredevil needed a sequel
Starting point is 02:45:03 as much as the director's cut needed to exist You know I got one I think League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was so much better than it was a spouse still haven't released that reaction Dude, it's so good sitting on that reaction. I love that like I was it you liked it I didn't know that it's like a three and a half star film. It's like a solid B It's such a good time remember being feeling like I'm crazy when I was younger being like I Enjoyed this movie a lot the whole movie. I'm like Because I thought this was like one of the worst movies of the year I was watching it like is this everyone hates cuz I'm having a great time I think I can't try to convince myself. I didn't like it during it
Starting point is 02:45:41 I was like I think I'm full of joy League of extraordinary gentlemen. I'm gonna put my foot down on it I'm waiting to be impressed. It was so much fun director of blade Alright Quentin Anthony Anderson, thank you. Here's one What whimsical or side MCU characters do you think are locks for doomsday and secret wars? Oh? side characters Cat Dennings Okay, Michael Pena really Michael Pena. I don't think he's a lock. We didn't have him. I feel like he was missed I'd love us the opening to explain the entire cannon up to doomsday was just penionary does Hank Pym count at this point yeah
Starting point is 02:46:27 Actually, I think he retired. I think Michael Douglas retired. Oh, yeah, yeah, and Evangeline Lilly both I can't be on his side Valkyrie is kind of a lead now, but I would count on Tessa Thompson Korg I Would love to see Walton Goggins come back Sam Rockwell, please Those are some wish list Wong more naked Eric Selvig yes Jacob battle on I would say Jacob battle on spray. I don't really have too many. Yeah those All right and Bacchus we know is coming back. Yeah All right, well, thank you Quentin Reynaldo Torres Torres So I feel like we could have maybe made a more interesting answer there, but I really can't
Starting point is 02:47:20 Cameo Rerendered through the magic of AI Lee cameo re-rendered through the magic of AI Right now the Taurus Taurus thoughts on Bradley Cooper's appearance in Superman. I thought it was super cool Do you guys think he'll make more appearances any future impact? Yes, I think you'll definitely make more appearances I think the character Jor-El is really impactful like he's always played by these huge actors obviously Marlon Brando Russell Crowe these big Thespians so I think it'd be cool to see That character in some way Like he's always played by these huge actors obviously Marlon Brando Russell Crowe these big thespians So I think it'd be cool to see that character in some way
Starting point is 02:47:48 I don't think it'll be the traditional in the fortress of solitude passing on the knowledge But I think he had a lot of impact in gravitas, so I'd like to see him again I think we'll see him as a cameo in Supergirl. Oh That makes sense the going back to Krypton. Yeah, they show the the or the or like in my Supergirl woman tomorrow really expanded upon the more slow Destruction of Krypton. Did you finish it? Yeah. Yeah And whereas, you know, I'm used to the versions of one day. It just fucking blew up, you know
Starting point is 02:48:23 But yeah that one is like how How do we like make this? How do we save this in repair and society's crumbling and people it's so much death, and it is really tragic But I'd be surprised if Jor-el doesn't have a cameo there. I agree. I like that and Dave Krumholz is playing her dad Hey, I love David Krumholz Ten things about you. He's the elf. He's the elf in the Santa Oppenheimer. He's his buddy in Oppenheimer. There's so many great.
Starting point is 02:48:49 It's Dave Krumholtz. You know this man. You know this man. So he's such a comic nerd. He's such a comic nerd. I'm so excited for him. All righty. Christian, unpronounceable.
Starting point is 02:48:59 Back at it. Last. I love that because the first thing makes no sense. Alas, beautiful. Thank you. Closing down the supers appreciate. And we have one more stream. I thank you guys. Thank you. Seriously. Thank you your Your support will never go I notice. Thank you so much I and I hate it like feeling like I got a rush out of here I don't want you guys to feel like I'm like I'm grateful for it. I
Starting point is 02:49:22 Do have a thing near three thing. We did three hours. Gratitude doesn't kick in until your fourth hour. Anyway MK2 Nardo Granada, thank you so much for closing us out here. Hi Rejects, question for all original Just Koi, what do you think the King Sweaty Schnepp would have thought of the recent state of comic book films and shows like Loki and the new Superman or anything You think he would have loved it miss the sweaty so much. Oh, what a great place to win I love this question I think John would be so happy that we've reached levels where it's like Kirby is in the vernacular and
Starting point is 02:50:01 Fantastic Four is so like potentially weird and crazy. I think he would have loved the bombasticness of Superman. I know he loved Modok. That man was obsessed with Modok. That man had Modok ice cube trays. I think he would have been really happy with how weird things have gotten. So like that kind of character was his cup of tea. I think he would have lost his mind that Eros popped up and the turtles like the things have gotten so
Starting point is 02:50:27 Big and weird and I think he would have loved a summer of Superman tying into Fantastic Four so um yeah I think he'd be really happy with with the internet And I think he'd be you know raging at at certain things on the internet being so antagonistic He did like joy, so I think he'd be he'd be elated at where things have gotten. I only got to meet him one time. Yeah. And here's obviously but I don't remember exactly what is that Collider. Yeah. And he he was like the last to me in terms of like comic book people who represented truly even just visually of like what a comp well we thought of like people yeah and was like a beacon of that you know like literally sweaty
Starting point is 02:51:10 like he looks nowadays we have to look like you know Greg Coy Brandon Davis whereas uh yeah Shnep had a just uh he just felt like a fucking human being you know yeah yeah I did a Vegas trip with him right before Like two months before he passed and it was so fun being in Vegas with someone that was such a comic nerd as opposed to The usual Vegas crowd like you a lot of times you go to Vegas for like a party or you go for a con But you're still with those type people and be there with John like we were at Caesar's Palace And there's all these busts and John is so tall he Would just like run away and hide and stand next to the bus
Starting point is 02:51:49 Visuals whenever I go to Vegas I think of John just blending it with the busts and that's such a nerdy geeky thing It just yeah, I miss the man. But yeah, I think he'd be really happy and I'm glad you got to meet him. Yeah Well, thank you for an in this off on a great note Thank you guys so much for being part of this stream with us Thanks koi for doing this Next week is going to be a pre-recorded Fantastic for spoiler talk that we were going to cord on tuesday, I believe John alex, thank you so much for everything you guys did for the stream, especially john for setting all this shit up again
Starting point is 02:52:21 And uh, yeah all you contributed and those who did it I'm just fucking glad you're here supporting us you know and to see the podcast actually be a regular thing here it makes me really happy and hopefully you're enjoying the upgrade in live stream tech we weren't on 16-bit it actually flowed and it actually flowed problems did good so flow we're getting your mouths synced slowly but surely yeah It's all coming together, man Oh, is it really what today's the seven-year anniversary of John's death? They know that I
Starting point is 02:52:54 I'm so glad someone asked because I think you know the the classic added you die twice like when you when your heart stops beating and When someone says your name the last time and we are not letting that second one Happen John so much love and I remember that comic-con right after you passed and how beautiful it was to Celebrate you with all your people in like the Mecca of our folk and every comic-con. I think of you man So I'm really glad we got to thank you for asking that question to close this out because that means today of all days We did the edge of thinking talk about him so that that second death didn't happen so much love to John yeah thank you guys so much we will

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