The Reel Rejects - REBEL MOON PART ONE - A CHILD OF FIRE MOVIE SPOILER REVIEW!!!

Episode Date: December 24, 2023

Critics say it's bad...audiences are on board...WE'LL DECIDE as we await the next Snyder Cut. Rebel Moon: Part One - A Child of Fire Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects First Time Watching Rebel Moon Part 1 where we watch & give our Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Breakdown, Easter Eggs, Theories, Spoiler Review, & Ending Explained for the latest Zack Snyder Netflix movie that is inspired by Star Wars, Seven Samurai, Dune, Lord Of The Rings, & a whole bunch of Sci-Fi Fantasy films as well as feeling like the art work we love from him such as Zack Snyder's Justice League, Batman V Superman Dawn Of Justice, Man Of Steel, Watchmen, 300, Army of the Dead, & I got in the SEO of these movies. While we did enjoy doing our Rebel Moon Trailer Reaction, it is time to see if the movie cast featuring Sofia Boutella (Kora), Ed Skrein (Atticus Noble), Ray Fisher from Cyborg as Bloodaxe, Djimon Hounsou (Titus), Michiel Huisman from Game of Thrones as Michiel Huisman, Charlie Hunnam as Kai, Anthony Hopkins as Jimmy, Staz Nair as Tarak, & I got all the names in here. There's beautiful visual fx, cool action scenes, a great score with music by Junkie XL Tom Holkenborg, and what else...the guy did Superman. Oh yes, there's a Rebel Moon: Part Two - The Scargiver Trailer out. #RebelMoon #ZackSnyder #Netflix #MovieReaction #firsttimewatching #firsttimewatchingmoviereaction #trailerreaction #youtubersreact #StarWars #Dune #zacksnydersjusticeleague #justiceleague #lordoftherings  Thanks To Our SPONSORS! SHOPIFY: Visit https://www.Shopify.com/rejects EXPRESS VPN: https://www.expressvpn.com/rejects Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Aparrel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG On INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We will not have a discussion. as to whether or not should they have done this and just released the director's cut. Who knows? John, how are you? I'm excited for the Netflix cut of the eventual Snyder cut. All righty, well, that's what I like to hear.

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All righty. Thank you to our sponsors. And let's talk about the Rebel Moon, a songbird of fire and ice. a child of fire a child of fire okay yeah that's easy enough to remember I shouldn't have such a hard time any who um yeah overall I liked it

I thought I might have like a lot of thoughts on this movie and my thoughts I feel like are very simple and straightforward I expressed them throughout the reaction if you guys are listening to this on Apple and Spotify you can go ahead write this review and yeah that would be very much appreciated do it. Anywho, yeah. So obviously, it goes to us and it's a Zach Snyder film. You expect it to look good.

Rare is the day. I can't even think of a day where we were here and said, this film looks awful. I don't think we've ever said that. And I think this is one of his best looking films he has ever done. It is stunning from beginning to end. The only live action film I haven't seen of his is sucker punch. and from what I understand of that movie is it supposed to kind of feel a little bit like a dream I don't know anything about the movie really so it's supposed to feel like a dream and what I was loving about the aesthetics here

is that while it is like a dream come true of watching like a child's fantasy come to life it still felt tangible and real and that's the element of it that has it feeling lived in is just how gorgeous like the blend of Practical effects, everything that's going on in the background, the backdrops of things.

That's just what's in the center of frame, but the backdrops. The sky is at all of it was stunning. This is probably in terms of visual effects, you know, like we have some great-looking movies this year. But in terms of a movie that heavily relies on CGI, I would say this is undoubtedly the best-looking movie I've seen all year that does that. I can't think of another one. Can you? I can't think of another one. When Way Wilder was like the way end of last year, right?

Yeah, it does not count. That counts as last year, John. Probably the best looking one of the, I mean, yeah, like all the effects from the creatures to the ships to the, you know, melding of all the movie magic looked beautiful. Absolutely. Absolutely. The action, again, one thing you expect from Zach Snyder, the action is going to be cool. The action was really cool. And I think his mastery blend of, he's known for his slow,

And I actually feel like there wasn't as much slow-mo as I thought that right me Yeah, it's funny because you look at this and you hear like, oh, it's been cut down. So like, oh, what are they going to do? Just indulge in tons and tons of sloma. But really, it was only a couple, you know, punctuation shots that hark into that like 300-style speed ramping. Yeah. And, and I mean, too, just to real quick to bolster the effects, I do admire that, you know, for as much as Zach Snyder came to big prominence with a movie like 300 that is like all shot on Greens Greens. You know, like you do appreciate that. while there are tons and tons of visual effects they built the town apparently and they built these fields and stuff like that and those things go a long way towards selling a lot of this stuff too I would say definitely

because it all looked real and a lot of times I couldn't tell like what was real and what wasn't in terms of certain backdrops that they were inhabiting and like the costumes like everything from a practical standpoint the music again who did is Tom Yolkin Wilkins Slider or I don't

know I don't know He's not, it's not Han Zimmer, but it sounds close enough. One of Hans Zimmer's interest. It's either Junkie X-L or Tom Holken-Smorker, we had IMDB right. I know, but it's easier just to ask Google, Tom Hoken-Bor. That's Tom Hoken-Bor. He did do the score for it. And again, the progressive tune with the mixture of stuff that felt very tribalistic, as well as, like, orchestral sounds.

Like, so much of the mood and aura relied heavily on its aesthetic. And one thing that you can say, that speaks loudly to Zach Snyder's films is aesthetically speaking that in itself is one of the voices of the movie. You know, it's like you can look at script, which has like dialogue and performances and all those things. And that is just one element of the voice. And oftentimes that is the main reliance of voice. And there's a really important part. But I think with Zach Snyder, you want to see how much of that really lands.

And I do think that, you know, even if at times there were like complaints happening or things about characterization or narrative, It was, I would find myself, like, complaining about something and then being like, but they're going, damn, look at this. You know, like, it's imminently watchable. Yeah, and a lot of the time, what I find that happens with me in a movie, and I've even had this with other Zach Snyder films, to some of his theatrical cuts, I would say, is I will be watching it and I won't, I might have issues with the story. And then, but for a lot of films out there, I will find. that yeah it looks pretty but man i'm just so bored i'm just so checked out because of the narrative itself is so not doing it for me and that it won't that it won't matter and then i i would find myself here being like no i still like love what i'm looking at like i would still really love

what i'm looking at i'm not on any substances right now or anything i'm totally sobered and i would find myself still going whoa i am engrossed by this and especially to watch this with headphones on, I think, being absorbed into the sound design. So, so much of this was working for me on just the technical aspect. And not everything narratively is bad or something like that, right? But on the technical aspect of it all, I was so engrossed by the painting I was witnessing that that alone is enough for me to recommend it. It is just off of that. And it's not the usual types of, like there's some Zach Snyder earmarks you would normally expect. However, I still think it goes, it elevates above that.

You know, like lately he's been kind of doing something that's more real world the blend. Army of Darkness. I would even say even Zach Snyder's dead. Army of the Dead. Zach Snyder's Justice League, Batman v. Superman. So that feels more real world inhabited. Yeah. It's been a while since he's done a movie that's just purely a fantastical realm.

Yeah. And that's what makes me curious to see Sucker Punch. And this seems like a compliment to the vague things I know about that, except in, like, a much less off-putting package. Yeah. And, you know, and then when it comes to performances, I would say the highlights for me are at screen. I thought he was, like, he was a scene stealer whenever he was there.

Yeah, he's just got so much, I don't know, he's having fun chewing the scenery, but not doing it too much. He's a villain in Deadpool, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah, so he's kind of like whatever there. And so it's seeing and play another villain here. and obviously riffing on Nazis He's gotten better each time

Because he was a villain in a lead of battle angel And that's right, yeah And he's usually like boring He's like he's like he's like some He's like a shy Courtney to me Yeah, no, he totally is And he like took over the transporter For a hot second and that didn't last long

Yeah, he can be that guy where he can be Oh, I don't remember now I finally remember him in game I did not I remember that there was a switcher that happened I could not pull the face now I see it Like he was the first one. Yeah, he was Dario Naharis. And then the guy who plays a gunner, he was the second one.

And he was the main one who was around. That's right. Yes. Yes. And he was with Amelia Clark. I forgot which character was. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Anyway, I thought he was excellent here. The performers overall were good, I would say, but I really don't know. See, the difference with, um, no, I don't want to say. don't know like i think they're all good uh and i have some specific ones i want to kind of target a little bit here put a target on them uh target on your back i guess i don't really know how strong the characters are because of this director's cut theatrical cut debacle that we're

in you know so obviously gutted of character beats yeah like batman v superman was the start of like he's done other director's cuts before but batman v superman was to me the bigger the biggest testament and the most vocal one of you watch an extended version and it's actually so much better and that was only like 15 to 20 minutes longer yeah but it was and the performances were even stronger and on all these things and the chemistry was there and and the difference with that was I could actually see a version where that would exist yeah from watching the theatrical version yeah because you still had like galgado made an impression ben affleck people were like he's great in this movie you know

And even for people like us who didn't like that theatrical cut when we saw it, we were still like, but they're really good and like they stand out and when they're on screen, they're awesome Alfred. Like there were these performers that were there that you just knew were excellent. And then of course having like being acquainted with Henry

Cavill and Manist still prior. So there was a lot working for it. We're here this is an introduction of a bunch of new characters. You know, there's a new IP that's being created. And so this is my, our introduction to all of them. And honestly like my, the biggest letdown down for the movie for me is the introductions of them,

I could see one person, not one person. Why am I saying like that? I could see one version is the word looking for. You have no idea how long it did it. Okay, you're doing great. I didn't want that to bleed over. I don't want to end this strong. So you could see one version of this where you could see sort of the,

it's how I felt. when we were first getting to know Cora, Sophia Bettella's character. Like, sure, is this so expositional? Is this so on the note? Is this so familiar? Is this so like self-poetic, pretentious romanticism with its own dialogue?

Yeah. Yeah, but it felt intentional. It felt purposeful. So I was like, I don't know. I'm digging it. Is this what people were complaining about? Because if that's what it is, then I don't give a shit.

Like, I like it. Yeah. It was when we started getting to other kids. characters as the recruitment process started happening. I'm like, okay, we spent a good chunk of time here with village farmer people. Like the first 40 minutes is just with them. And then everyone else is like a quick five to seven minutes other than guy who gets bird. Everything else is like a quick five to seven minutes.

Yeah. We're just like get some backstory that wrists on like a call. Oh my God, John Howling out of the word, a colonialization call. colonization with colonization and can feel a little bit poetic but honestly it feels hacked up in my in my viewing experience it felt hacked up there are times where we would like cut to a character like lady with swords where i was like wait a minute i feel like there's something here that's completely missing of how we got here and i have no investment in what's happening here and that investment would just constantly get more diluted the more we would meet a new character like the time i got to ray fisher's character is like, who's this? Okay, there's just supposed to be this big rise in catharsis and rebellion. And then he dies.

And I'm like, I don't really, I don't really care because I don't really know this guy. Yeah, like at all. I only kind of care because I know it's Ray Fisher. Yeah. This is a fascinating experience because to me, this movie felt like what happens to a movie

when it becomes a reaction highlight real. Like, it's, it feels like it is reduced down to like, here's the main beats you need to understand and to support whatever we're about to see. say but you know without the reaction part actually happening it's just the movie yeah it felt like somebody yeah ran all these clippets together and i wonder what it would be like to watch this without the knowledge that there's going to be a director's cut and all that stuff and whoever's idea it was and why yeah it's interesting because at the beginning with the stuff with sophia

butella and meeting you know this world of veldt you are like okay maybe the the directness and the familiarity of this is like a choice right It could be, and I'm fine with that because, yeah, sometimes things aren't trying to reinvent the wheel. They're just trying to put a particularly nice shine and spin on it, right? But, yeah, once you get to a certain point, it feels like all you get is the punch for everybody's intro, and none of the lead up to any of that, and it really suffers dynamically because of that. And the visuals are working over time to sell you everything. And it's fascinating because this is, like, I enjoyed watching it, and I wanted to keep watching it.

And I think Zach Snyder is always like a really, I don't know, skilled and enthusiastic world builder, aesthetician. You know, like, I always get the sense that there is like a rich bedrock of stuff, even if it's comprised of many parts. Like, I'm always interested in what his visions are and in spending time in these worlds. Again, not having seen Sucker Punch, I've heard some people say that movie is kind of off-putting. the rest of them usually I'm like I'm even if the plotting isn't working for me I'm still like engrossed in the place of this and so yeah seeing like bad reviews going in I don't feel quite that way but at the same time I kind of agree with all the gripes it's like weird I'm not mad and I'm not almost even like let down but it is just so apparent that there's so much

missing that makes this a really story deficient experience. So it does ironically feel the most like a movie made to sell TVs out of any of his movies thus far because it starts to feel like somebody who like makes commercials directed it, which I mean, you know, he did make commercials. But, you know, I don't know. It's a, I'm trying to put my finger on like how to describe my feeling on this movie. I would say the visuals are what. push it over to like a 6.5 to 7 for me 6.5 i'll be totally honest it's like a 6.5 maybe a 6.

it's like if i was the ron tomato score i would just barely be passing fresh because the narrative and characters themselves just don't cut it for me here like there's so many of them and they're all kind of given essentially the same kind of story and dialogue and background with a slightly different tinge of something. He's a general, but it's all the same shit. He's been disgraced. Yeah. Oh, you were a mother and you lost your kid and you've got a vendetta for that and yeah.

Yeah, and I think like Sophia Betella's Cora, I think physically she's a like very capable and an imposing figure. Oh, down. Like she's great. Like I totally buy and believe

her like that, her body language. It's really, again, Maybe in the extended version with the expansion on dialogue scene she's given, it works. But here, I don't know, it just wasn't strong enough of a performer to be captivating in those moments where she was having like big dialogue moments because the scenes themselves aren't strong enough because there's everything surrounding or leading up and yada, yada, yada, you know what a lot of this felt like to be. It felt like, and I know this isn't the case because there's like a four-hour version out there. it felt like someone typed in the chat gbt i want to do a movie that takes place that's a combination of star wars dune lord of the rings and uh write me a movie that and the magnificent seven seven samurai write me a movie that is that all that is what this is

and i don't take offense to that or find it um egregious in any way because zach Snyder's voice and what he's gravitated towards if you look at his filmography I haven't seen such a bunch of legends or whatever is you know like the things he's known for are adaptations and

as and then when he does something that's original it his whole point is being derivative and homageing like a billion other things like is like being a kid crashing all your favorite stuff together yeah like so when it comes when you really think about it story wise when it comes to original

That's not really what people are drawn to Zach Snyder about. In terms of story, I'm talking about. It's the feeling and the vibe and the awe of the spectacle that he is able to communicate. Yeah. Because narratively, story-wise, none of this really feels like it's from something else I've seen. This feels like my bad memory of a movie except it was the whole movie. Well, yeah, I mean. Not bad in terms of like a sour memory, but like I don't remember all of this movie.

and that feels like all of what they gave us here. And that's how I feel when watching this is like, I don't mind that it's derivative of like a billion other things. I don't mind that. I really don't because you could feel an eager inspiration of someone being like, oh, this is kind of like my, like you said during the reaction. This is how Zach Snyder will often take the fantastical thing we all know when he's doing like one of his derivative pieces.

And then like, what's the harsher reality version of this? Yeah. And that's what he does. That's just what we know him to do. And so when watching this, I'm like, yeah, it's about what I'd expect when watching the trailer for this movie story-wise. But one thing I cannot forgive a movie on is if you're going to have this many characters, they've got to have chemistry. And the characters have to be... You've got to make a team especially.

That's what I mean. It's an ensemble of a team that's banning together for a cause. I'm like, well, you've got to get your simple story down really easy to latch onto. because the most you got to do is like at least make up for lack of story with good with um I don't know fun to watch characters they're not even like fun because that's the problem is the characters aren't even like fun to watch well they didn't give them any time to build camaraderie or build any kind of team spirit of any kind like like sophia butella's character has like a conversation with the charley honum character and that's only really to convince us he's not a

bad guy right before the twist comes around that he is a bad guy and so Like, it seems pretty likely that, like, all of the stuff that's missing from this is probably all the stuff is going to go back into the director's cut. But it is funny to me, whoever made it this way from, you know, the powers that be, because it does betray the tone and that cornerstone of Zach Snyder's aesthetic in making these things feel more real. Because by removing us from any time spent with the characters and removing us from time spent in the world past that opening bit. in Velt where you spend the most breathable room getting to know the place. Like, you're traveling to so many distant, interesting-looking worlds, and you can feel the love from behind the camera for what all these creatures and places and all these political machinations are. But it undercuts that grit of realism by not having any meat on that

bone, and you brought up multiple times during the movie, it's like they let us know, via dialogue how terrible the mother world is um and you know ed screen good villain the guy who is her like surrogate father who picks her up on the battlefield actually some decent presence from that guy like interesting formidable presence however yeah you don't really feel you don't get to witness the true horrific might of the mother world you just kind of i don't know everywhere you go is kind of crappy so you just have to assume that that's their fault or something yeah like if you look at the movies it's borrowing from yeah see i think the strongest part of this movie is the before they venture out on the quest yeah because it's just like a pretty fine blockbuster

yeah the four the first 45 minutes like when when she actually like as cliche as it is with like girl about to be assaulted and then main character says usually it's a guy who's like the main character step in and save the day um so as as as cliche as much of a trope as it is um i still really like this is effective this is strong i'm rooting for sophia butella i want to get to know who she is and the farmer village town like i kind of feel like we lost sight of all that and when they started going out and exploring the galaxy is when the movie slowly just kept starting smaller and smaller in terms of impact there's an emotional impact and interest you know it's like we just kept going to other parts of the world and the story itself uh the engrossment of that

just started dwindle when i was like i was actually extremely more invested in this we were just in this one this one spot yeah and and uh and i think what they do with sophia betella's character that i i find is not really it seems like the script confused and maybe this is just the theatrical version it feels like the script confuses bombastic flashbacks with heavy amounts of exposition for world building and character development yes it when that's not what's really they're just kind of explaining shit you know yeah i just give you set up so that you know what the motivations are so that we know why we're fighting blah blah blah yeah and yeah to that point about the motherland like for comparisons and it's compared to the things that it's derived from like even in the first

star wars movie you're not watching the empire like you know destroy villages left and right or some shit like they some but when you go to towns there's like stormtroopers there and there's a lot of emphasis and talk about it you see them destroy all to ron yeah yeah yeah you see this could pop off at any moment and there's a lot of and there's not as many cutting around to so you're really focused and a lot of the conversations are about like Like, here's what the empire will do. Like, everywhere you go, the vibe of the empire is around in some capacity. Dune, same thing, you know.

And you get a sense for the proximity of places in those worlds. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I like the idea of doing like a seven samurai, but on a galactic level. But the problem is seven samurai and Magnificent Seven, those movies are all about one town. And like this one dude who's, this group of people who are oppressing this one town. Yeah. you know and it's very it's it's yeah that's why that first hour is effective for that yeah those movies are sprawling and they are long but but they are sort of simple in that way as you get the

team together they got to fortify the villagers help them fight for themselves and then they take on the bad guy yeah so when you start cutting around and you're trying to do like additional world building on top of world but and they start to like kind of loose side of it so to me i was like there's a lot of potential that kind of just seems like it's getting lost in the in the array of things and now it's getting so caught up and delivering information and wanting to be cool that we are now missing out on just like the basics and the basics

being an ensemble movie where you got like great like you have so many great actors here but you know the writing is so weak of them to the point where they're not even enough to elevate it to make the characters actually interesting. They don't even get a chance to shine through that yeah it's like it really feels like you got whisked past something really fast

Like somebody pulled you in a room and said, look at all this cool stuff, but we got to run through here. We got to get out of here because we got another one of these to get to, right? Yeah. And like, it really does feel like a recollection in hindsight, but made into a movie somehow. And it's like you have these creatures and things. And you have like, I really enjoy that spider scene with Jenna Malone. And that, you know, there are so many alien species and stuff like that. And those are things that give you questions that you, as a viewer, will probably happily give the movie.

a little extra time and benefit of the doubt to go exploring. And I do think it's funny that Zach Snyder seems like a filmmaker who just, I don't know if it's a good thing or not, but he just seems like he has to make a long movie. There's no other way he has to make a long-ass movie. And this is like two hours, and it feels like, yeah, like it's been shredded down to, this felt kind of like a less maddening to me version of what happened to Batman v. Superman. and I get the sense more was cut from this where it's like let's just trim out as much as we can

to get to two hours and whatever that is we're going to put it out and I felt like the shredding wasn't really felt until they left farmland yeah the part where it's weirdly I liked that we got to establish Velt and the people there and we got to spend some time in that

however funny enough I would trade it for the rushed prologue thing if it meant we could breathe in assembling the team because that's what's really important like you got to care for the home that you're fighting for and for her to come back and be like oh yeah he says something about

you know like calling it home being a nice thing but in a movie like this where the whole charm is going to be the team and their dynamic together and each of them having unique moments when the fight finally you know reaches ahead and you know some people aren't going to make

it I I would have happily traded 20 or more of those opening minutes on Velt for flesh on those bones because it does start to feel like some kind of greatest hits medley from comprised of a bunch of complete albums you've never heard. Yeah, like especially if you want to get people to watch like part two, you know? And I know there's a lot of people, I'm sure if I go on Twitter, there's a lot of people who are like loving this right now,

critics score bad audience score middling um and i to me though it yeah i'm like kind of it's not either put more work in your theatrical cut or don't rely on people having to watch your director's cut i i don't i don't agree with how the handling of that it's streaming you there there aren't as many rules and like if anyone is going to if you have any chance of getting big numbers on a long, long movie. It's a Zach Snyder joint. It feels like a disservice to everything going on here and to the

sequel to split this in half and then do a monocut. Because from my understanding, the director's cut will be both parts plus an hour. So like at that point, just do that or find a way to cut that version in half.

Because this seems, I don't know, like I would be fascinated in the future where, and more, you know, when you can, I'm sure there are NDAs and whatever. I would, I would be curious to hear the story of this later down the line because if I was Zach Snyder making a movie, I'm not sure I would be totally thrilled with this cut, and he's like, oh yeah, the director's cut feels like a whole different movie. And while I don't think that that's necessarily 100% true, I'm like, I can see how

it definitely would feel like a different experience. Because this is, it's just so strange. I can't even put my, I can't find a proper word, because I wouldn't call this bad, but But it is clearly deficient of things that are, like, super necessary. Like, there are so many elements that I... It doesn't have to be black and white. I think, like, everything that's good about it is obvious. And the things that are bad about it are also obvious.

Yeah, it's like, part of me is like, I liked it. Subjectively speak, you know, for us. I'm sure there are people who really like some of these characters. I'm not going to... We won't try to take that away from you. Yeah, and I mean, sure, there's plenty that, like, an actor you like, and, you know, a cool look can do. And I, you know, I certainly, you know, gravitate towards those things, too.

And this is, I don't know, this is one of those things where I'm happy to want to learn more about these characters rather than finishing this and being like, I don't care to see any more of this stuff. Like, you know, there's only more goodwill that can be built on top of this because, yeah, at the end of the day, and I've heard some people mention the creator while talking about this movie. and that is another movie that is like supremely derivative of a bunch of things but has a good amount more, and it doesn't even fully breathe as well as it could do,

but that movie, you know, in being quite familiar, still manages to feel like kind of a rich experience or one of those you walk out of and you're like, you know, that's not perfect, but a real big applause for the effort.

And here I'm like, this isn't perfect, applause for the effort, but also I feel like you could have easily not been in this position, you know, a hundred different ways. I don't know, but that's just our pay on it. I'm like somewhere between six to a six point five. Yeah, same.

It keeps going down for me a little bit. I'm excited for part two. I'm definitely like, there's enough in here to push you right past that rotten line. Yeah. Like visually. But in terms of I'm just looking at like narrative and story, you know, like I could watch a movie that's riddle with cliches. Sure.

I could watch a movie that's riddle that's so derivative. but it's like it's also about like what is the emotion it's leaving me with and and uh to me it like the emotion that left me with was like there's a lot i admired here in my head and emotionally i was like eh it's kind of emotionally it's a little vacant on the emotion side that's a good word for it yeah it doesn't even feel like there's a chance to connect there's nothing like nothing really brought like a big smile in my face nothing like shocked me and even like the while the action's like really cool to look at it's not memorable enough for me to be like i'll at least want to turn him for part two for the crazy action yeah it's like even with transformers you'd be like

ah well that fucking action though you know or some shit yeah actually that's a bad i hate the action in most of those movies those get incessant yeah but no i get what you mean like while you're while you're watching it it's very appealing And at least for me, you know, you're always wanting to give it to the benefit of the doubt. But again, with all those things missing, it just loses the ability to be fun in any superlative way or dramatic or intense. It's badass in moments if the visuals are supporting that. And that's the thing is like, you know, again, in the first part of the movie you're sitting there going, yeah, this could be derivative as hell, but it's part of the vision, like, Zach Snyder's vision is kind of the, star that can make all of that okay and palatable because of his enthusiasm and because

you could clearly tell like this dude should be writing 100,000 graphic novels where he could probably fully always realize his vision. Yeah, it reads like a graphic novel too. And yeah, and through that perspective, I'm happy to be like, ah, you know, that's fine. You know, as long as the actors can sell the dialogue, but we're not watching a graphic novel. But we are watching a movie. And, yeah.

So yeah. Anyway, guys, what did you think about it, though? Is it ultimately satisfied? Are you going to be watching the director's cut? Are you excited for Rebel Moon Part 2? Leave your thoughts down below. Subscribe, leave a like. Patreon.

All right, John, pick a name. All right. Let's do Gabriel. Gabriel, do you know your game for Christmas? What? You are getting this comment that, what is it, John? What did Gabriel say? Did you find it?

I didn't, but we're going to watch for it in real. time because we had to get a whole thing that you were like i gabriel left a comment and it was funny and then i was like gabriel gave us an inkling as to like where he is is based so like uh oh my god we'll get to it man i'm getting i'm getting while they're getting that time is sensitive here we're on gabriel's time okay gabriel's so impatient gabriel just cannot stop hassling us at all times a day I fight with Gabriel on the daily. Oh, really? Is he a good fighter?

Do you like to spar? He's a bit of a bitch. He's a bit, man. He slaps. That's messed up, dude. He's French Canadians. He says he's too nice to stop pledging. Oh, no shit.

French Canadian. I was worried about my bitch fighting joke, but now you got to go even harder on him. He's a slaffer, that French Canadian freak. What are you going to do? Hit me with a Maple. Enjoy your coated baguette. Yeah. While you hang out with your moose.

Go use your hyper-specific accent. Yeah. How's the ice skating going around? That's a lot of hockey coming along. How's public relations with other Canadians? That's a good question. I understand. People are unfairly harsh on French Canadians.

Especially the French Canadians. Yeah. What do they ever do to anybody? Maybe there is a French in there, you know. Did they come over and conquer? They helped us out So like we're cool Except we always make fun of them

For surrendering all the time But otherwise A bunch of bitches than French Those French people Maybe they've been really oppressive Up in Canada, who knows They can take a joke Which one?

The French is Canadians I don't know I don't know I feel like nowadays No one could take a joke But you know who can is Gabriel Gabriel knows a good joke When he

Gabriel thank you for always being Understanding with us And thank you for being an atheist Happy Festivus. What's that? For the rest of us. Apparently, it's the thing that they created on Seinfeld or something. What was that mean?

It's like this surrogate Christmas for atheists. So it's like, here's a secular holiday that we can pretty much do the same shit around. So they just, what do they celebrate? Not believing in anything? What a weird thing that's all right? I guess they just celebrate togetherness. We're here today to honor nothing. We, yes, we had a mass.

We went to Festivist Church We went to atheist church It had a fest of his mouth Yeah, a candlelight vigil All right, good for you Um, Happy Festivist Day. Happy you're...

Chris Mahana Kwanza. Hope you're rolling your eyes at everyone's beliefs this holiday season. Yes. I hope you're fully your arms. And looking down your nose at people and judging them for believing in fantasies.

Hope you fold your arms during Christmas dinner. Yeah. Yeah. Refuse to participate. used to participate i hope you shove down your beliefs of science versus religion yeah i hope you walk into a church on christmas day was just like a copy of darwin history they ruined american and canadian culture so yeah have fun ruining the holidays for everyone yeah and not understanding that

no one really is the shit about the religious side other than the religious people yeah yeah maybe maybe we should go to uh christmas mass no it is so it is long long I'm not going to say boring It's just But that might Be an emotion That comes up

I would probably appreciate it more now Than I ever did In the times we were really doing that Before I would be like Oh man I'm gonna be so tired I'm gonna have to Well I'm gonna be like

Wow People are really Committed But if I close my eyes I might be able to get a good nap I might be able to Talk to God on the astroplane. I took my grandma-in-law to church out here.

Really? I think it was Palm Sunday. Or something. There was one of them. Take the church. I took her, and I pay attention the whole time, entire time. Really enjoyed it. I was actually an admiration of everyone there.

And it was like an extra long mass. It was like an hour and a half. It was a foot long mass. And then they decided to have the exits be different than usual Where it's like one row at a time You know how big that church is Oh yeah So that was like one row at a time

And then they had like an encore outside I was like okay now you're testing my patience Because I thought we were ready to go to the parking lot and leave Now we're outside of the church After an already extended period More worship And we are now here with the car cars passing by listening to you talk this is going on way too long man i've been really

respectful and kind i've actually enjoyed it and taken away some of the lessons the overall lessons so i had a good time no alcohol required didn't need the wine and now we're here no i got to go i restayed and then it was fine oh anyway gabber didn't have to deal with any of that yeah you don't have to worry at all yeah enjoy that extra few hours happy At the Atheist Day, I hope I can join you on it. Yeah. Peace and objectivity.