The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: House of the Dragon 1x10 - SEASON 1 FINALE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

THE SEASON 1 FINALE! House Of The Dragon Ep 10 Reaction, Breakdown, Recap, & & heavy Spoilers toiday where the blacks (Rhaenrya & Daemon Targaryen) prepare to fight the greens (Otto Hightower) conclud...ing w/ Aemond & Lucerys Velaryon Dragon Fight scene - an epic battle in the skies setting off the Dance of the Dragons filled with Easter Eggs book readers are sure to love & spot the differences on. #HouseOfTheDragon #GameOfThrones #HBO #HOTD #HBOMax #MattSmith #rhaenyratargaryen #daemontargaryen #asongoficeandfire Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions + HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Watch Alongs! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Support The Channel By Checking Out Our High-Quality Merch + Our BRAND NEW TEAM BLACK SHIRT: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Reject listeners. Thanks for being here. We're going to listen to the, we're going to listen to the final episode. We're going to watch the final episode of House of the Dragon. Get ready to hear our thoughts. After this, let's go. Holy shit. Wow. Huh.
Starting point is 00:00:23 It was a great last shot. that's crazy yeah damn what's really important is you guys by a shop zero edition dot com get your support in for team black now in order for us to win this war we got to crush the greens yeah if you haven't read the book i don't know what's who'd act i'm like damn all this happened in that book all this and more is always the impression i got all this but way more messed up well we got some shit to talk about boy howdy all right guys so in between cuts as i heard there is so much i because of this episode you know a little
Starting point is 00:01:16 leak happened so i heard book readers really did not like this episode a lot obviously i didn't know specifics as to why because i was like well you can't tell me because So I'm going to react to the episode. Bro, the experience. So in between cuts, I was like, I really like this episode. I mean, I got like some things that I thought were like, why didn't we talk about this?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah. Is there some points that I'm like, we probably should have more of a discussion on these things? You know, the baby. The dragon flashes while the baby is happening. Parts of the baby kind of look like a dragon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:01 You could spend a little more time morning. There's everybody just found that. Yeah, there were some conversations that I was like, you know, but I still thought it was a great episode. Yeah, I was gripped the entire time. So, as I'm,
Starting point is 00:02:14 so I was like, all right, I want to look up because I'm like, am I crazy? Am I wrong? Like, is my enjoyment wrong? And it sounds, I mean, there are things about the way the handling of the characters are
Starting point is 00:02:26 that seems to have really pissed off some people. I don't know everything obviously because we didn't read the book but uh we do have a shirt representing the book uh team black from a book that i've heard uh really inspires people to pick teams um yeah i heard the see i thought the aim at moment as someone who's all we can come from is like i got to just kind of throw all that away anything i just learned in the past couple of minute i kind of just got throw all that away and just talk about um how we felt about the episode itself because
Starting point is 00:03:00 the matter is like we didn't read the book so you know like I'm not going to be bothered by certain things other than things that I thought on a filmmaking writing point I'm like this should have been done a little better but for the most part I still thought that was great but yeah that one of the ending one of the ending moment parts is the thing that clearly is upsetting people looking online of like uh vagar vagar is it is it oh my god it's uh I like, is it Agar or Vagar? There is a Vagar. There is a Vagar.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I'm forgetting in the heat of the moment right here. Try V-A-E-G-A-R. V-A-R. V-H-A-G-A-G. Yeah, yeah. Vagar. It's right there. Yes, there you go.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Vagar and Erex. Yeah. There you go. So, Vagar, all week, two, three hours of sleep, guys, been having your life. My memory is going to be lapsing a lot more during this discussion. Of course, it's going to happen during the house
Starting point is 00:03:58 the dragon finale but yeah i think the thing that people was uh pretty upsetting with people is also the fact that amen didn't directly kill yeah that it was like he lost control of the dragon yeah because there's a lot apparently that they did that they have the handling of the characters that they did differently that have really upsetting people but that's like one of the last things i read but i don't know i i i guess like sure it can undercut some of the you know the ruthlessness and determination and and perhaps it can lend a little bit more to his situation of next season of him being like, it was an accident
Starting point is 00:04:33 I don't know, a lot of it looks pretty intentional for most of it. And then it was like, oh shit, no, didn't want to go that far. It's like when the bullies bullying someone and it's like, I didn't mean to kill him. Yeah. They push him off to right of the ledge or something. And oh, there goes their spine. Yeah, or they got eating. Yeah, because so far this whole season, a lot of it's been feeling like
Starting point is 00:04:51 a lot of things that have turning points feel like misunderstandings. But in terms of the episode, it's I was gripped by it. I like the lucid quality to it. And I like the mournful side that also had this like inspiring angle to it. And I think, yep, it's already happening. What is the actresses name who plays Reneer? Emma Darcy. Emma Darcy. I think Emma Darcy has a, as a wonderful internalized performance where I could feel there's a lot more thought processing happening in arguments and conversations
Starting point is 00:05:28 than she's probably letting on sure and I really I really like the the pulse of the way the hostility within characters was rising because you would have like Damon who after learning of the death has become you know his way of grieving with this
Starting point is 00:05:47 is revenge they've wronged me they've wronged us they've wronged the family killed my brother and he's just become and a bulldog about it and he's going straight into it but you know he's also trying to honor Raynera but there's a there's a battle
Starting point is 00:06:02 of a soul here because it doesn't feel like what Raynera wants because he wants to just go in like let's murder let's annihilate let's get all these dragons together let's just F everyone up and she's
Starting point is 00:06:18 trying to take a more calculated approach as Rainey said showing resistance and I like that tug of because obviously right now I want to take action but it's a very much like the speed of them
Starting point is 00:06:32 like is at odds with each other in the battle and the approach and how it's tearing them apart I'm surprised by it man like I the Game of Thrones world dealing with audiences is rough be a rough journey for people I understand
Starting point is 00:06:48 I understand that I understand that all I think we can do is go how do we feel about this on its own I do think some stuff should have been talked about a little bit more. Like, she lost the baby in a very brutal way. They had these inter-splicing moments with the dragon. And I didn't quite know what to make of it. There were parts of the baby that look like dragon scale.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Someone was pointing that out to me. Or someone was pointed out to everyone who will listen. And I was like, yeah. but I thought it could just kind of look like a dead baby like that that was born too early prematurely yeah it didn't it didn't read explicitly at the time in the moment as if the baby was like a hybrid of any kind but then they kept cutting back to the dragon yeah so I didn't know I thought
Starting point is 00:07:40 there was more of an emotional thing they were doing some type of like the dragon within her but well and you know like the the obvious symbolism of like a mouth but then cutting to a scaled up mouth with gnarled teeth during a moment such as birth where you know I feel like there's a pretty obvious kind of visual spiritual metaphor you can draw especially any birth as hostile and harsh as this one is portrayed but they we didn't do any real talking about it afterwards like no real like we had a scene where they grieved about it because that was such a harsh, brutal, like, that was, that was, you know, wow, that, that, that was, like, that, that, that was the, I've had two pregnancy scenes in this, and it's, like, I'm, I'm not a woman, and that, that was hard for me as a man, it was a guy just observing, like, this is really hard for me to watch. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Like, the first episode in this, like, it is such, they are both very hard scenes, and this one also was just very hard. And she lost a baby. like she lost a child and we're not really no one really talks about it yeah and I mean again I think you could argue that part of that has to do in the immediate moment
Starting point is 00:08:58 it feels sort of like okay it's the compounding effect of her being so internalized and having to exert so much poise because she knows she's surrounded by people who are quick to action and you know maybe slow to thought but at the same time it feels like what's been made of her children and their lineage
Starting point is 00:09:18 and the fact that this is a child with Damon I feel like there would be a more pointed emotional response between the two of them and again I guess you could argue that they both close off and go do their own things when they're grieving but at the same time that and Viceris there are lots of great moments
Starting point is 00:09:36 no and there are great moments that ring that bell to a degree and touch on those relationships Well, I think, just to interrupt, sorry, sorry, I know I'm a big fan of that, is, like, I think the grieving of Vassaris is shown through Damon's performance the whole time. It is, it is, and I... But right now, she's still, you know. She's just a little bit. She's juggling a lot. Yeah, yeah, and I feel like that's a place where I could have used maybe another scene, either good or bad catharsis in terms of, especially with them touching on this idea that, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:13 this era is clearly, he showed his true air, the prophecy, the Song of Ice and Fire, and Damon is clearly hurt by that. But one thing that's made Damon's character so interesting is that frequently he will show that as reckless as he has and as much as he doesn't care about how much of a detriment he can be to his family, he still very much loves and cares for his brother especially. And so, yeah, like, because that cast such a Paul and you have all the political stuff that it sets in motion, but because of like the last, time they all saw him and these circumstances like yeah I think the episode in the moment does a good job of sweeping you up into the like well we need to act like
Starting point is 00:10:52 the machine is is running now like you know we there's no time for these emotions and and yet I think yeah if I one of the few gripes I would levy at an episode like this is that yeah like especially because the portrayal of the Ceres and it's funny that people have had so many problems with the portrayal of the characters but unless he is just you know marketing for a HBO, like George R. Martin, was like, yeah, you're like, this is better than my character. Like, I loved your take on this character. And he has been a character that, you know, has been a very big highlight is a weird word,
Starting point is 00:11:25 because he's at a really harsh journey, but he's a highlight of the series. And so you would, I think, expect for the ending of the season and for, you know, he will be remembered in the seasons to come. But this is the time to pay tribute to him at the end of the, you know, this part of the story. And so I feel like, yeah, we could have used an emotional understanding. unpacking or discussion or something about him from them specifically or somebody like auto high tower could have also mentioned like i get why he doesn't but somebody could have mentioned like oh yeah and by the way he changed his mind on his death bet like we could have also had that conversation
Starting point is 00:11:57 yeah because people clearly will talk about that at kingslanding you know i mean there's a whole big chunks dedicated to that in the last episode i guess one part of me it's like yeah in the moment I actually was thinking, I'm like, are you going to mention this? And then the other part of me was like, is there a point of mentioning? Like, would that do anything? Would they believe, you know? The only thing I could see, it's one of those, like, I feel like he could use it as some kind of, you know, mind screw, basically to sort of suggest that, even though I'm sure she probably wouldn't be inclined to believe it, but suggest that, well, this is what he said is he was dying, you know? like, you know, that could at least
Starting point is 00:12:43 be a mental manipulation mine, you know, landmine tactic or something. But at the same time, one thing the season seems apt to do and one thing I think makes sense too in character is like, no, we're not going to pussyfoot around this, we're going to, you know, again, we've already taken action
Starting point is 00:12:59 and, you know, and this was my plan all along. Like, I always recognize this guy as the true era all along and you know that, so I'm not going to BS you. Well, guys, while I haven't read the book, I think I know exactly how this is going to end this whole show everyone's going to be dead it's just going to be alicent and renara on the beach and they are just bleeding out and they are they both have knives in their hands she's got the song of ice and fire dagger and and then you know like when it's when
Starting point is 00:13:29 ranaura gets the final stab you know they're slowly dying it's like they get that you found like yeah yeah but i still respect you bullshit and uh and and then she's like what were my what were my father's last words like she says that and then um she quotes his last words and then they're like you mean to tell me this is all just a big misunderstanding one that's the thing too that i've that there have definitely been significant complaints about and i've just like if this just got out to them like what exactly was said in that room i feel like that should maybe not exactly like that but i feel like that ought to happen because i feel i understand that in the in the book is different and a lot of things happened intentionally
Starting point is 00:14:12 because here in this episode it's an accident the way Luceris dies and you know this whole thing with Aegon has been escalated because of an accident and to me as a viewer of the show in isolation that has felt like a theme a sort of you know
Starting point is 00:14:28 these big plans and this these prophecies and this game of thrones is all human and it's all based on perspectives and what messages are going where And sometimes, you know, it's a, sometimes it's a game of telephone and sometimes people just mistake stuff and then that's the history now. And so, like, I appreciate that as an idea, as a theme. And I have enjoyed it here and have sort of, you know, I chalk that moment with, you know, Viseras, you know, yeah, spouting out the piece of the prophecy thinking he's talking to Rimera as part of that. But I can also see why that doesn't feel as satisfying as like a much more smart and deliberate choice, I guess. sure as it sounds like the book does instead of some of these things i don't know uh i don't i don't have time me involved with the discourse yeah as a viewer i find it fun i've found it
Starting point is 00:15:20 interesting to hear what book readers say because i respect it i can't i would never be like hey it's different you know different medium because i've had that with my own experiences with other properties like it can be hard to divorce yourself from it and feel like it's I think that the thing is like what if it's doing it on both levels like okay it's an insult to the source of the book and then it's also it's also like contradicting or undermining things that came before in the actual show you know yeah like that's when I think like okay now I got a real problem like because yeah it's like that I love I love the I love it a lot about it you know like Rainis kind of just cracked me up in this episode throne please spirit walking around observing she's like it's not my war but i'm gonna kick it here because i'm clearly kind of leaning here um so on a very subconscious level i'm very much leaning towards joining her side and i really why i didn't murder them last episode but i keep sticking around and and even when uh uh my corlis uh wakes up first thing i'm gonna start doing is me like you know
Starting point is 00:16:33 she's actually giving her shit to get her well yeah maybe we should align her so let her i got your back Yep, should have killed that kid. Sorry. Oh, boy. God. I love the two of them. And even the way that turns around, like, immediately, because they're talking about, like,
Starting point is 00:16:50 I don't know who we're going to lie ourselves with. And the second he gets in that room, he's like, well, yeah, I'm going to die of trees if I say anything else, but also, yeah. The scene when, the scene when Damon is arguing with Renera and he chrizzarro and he, chokes her that's a hell of a turning point that's that's that's like that's HBO right there that's not TV you can't have it's HBO can't have HBO if your male leading
Starting point is 00:17:18 actors not you know arming his significant other yeah not it's in the contract I'm making fun of HBO right now I was like John Oliver is allowed to do it so they're not like physically threatening their significant other is it really an HBO show yeah That's the, every pitch begins with that. Mark of a good HBO show right there. Every HBO story is just about how we got to the moment. The male leads show. The male lead becomes domestically violent.
Starting point is 00:17:48 That's when you know you're watching HBO show. Welcome back to the domestic violence network. No, that is a turning point, though, for sure. I think, I think the thing that was kind of baffling to me is I thought they said some statement about like, no, don't worry. We cut back on like the harming of women. And then there's like like really like really hurt a lot. I think they like if I didn't hear that, I think I don't think I would have thought of that. I mean, obviously not.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I think they meant they cut down on on A, the amount of gratuitous brothel scenes and then B, how many of those things escalate toward violence. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. Yeah. I think it's more like, no, this is still a cruel world for women. Yeah. Yeah. It's cruel for everyone. So but that moment What I thought was neat about it was Because Rainera doesn't Is not really fighting him
Starting point is 00:18:45 She's not even struggling like to really like hitting him or whatever She's like using the moment to listen to him And and observe what he's saying Yeah So when he's done choking her She flips it on her like You have no idea what I'm talking about did He didn't see you
Starting point is 00:19:05 He didn't really see you as a viable successor. Yeah, like never did. Oh, wow. He really did believe in me. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I think. I thought that was neat. I mean, I feel like, you know, there's some subjects here within this episode alone that I'm like, as a guy, I have my opinion from observing.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But I'm sure, like on a woman's perspective, it could be very different how some of these scenes are received, you know? So, yeah. I thought the final, it was really obvious. Like, I didn't, we didn't read the book. It was really obvious to be really obvious. Lus Harris, Lusarst. Lusairz. It was very obvious to Saris was going to die.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Like, the second he shows up and it was just a horror would be now. It was a dark stormy night. It's castle like, Dracula, basically. They were just like, okay, so I was going to die or not. You know, they're definitely dead. It was still a really tense moment. And I thought it was beautiful. Like, I don't recall a Game of Thrones even doing a dragon's.
Starting point is 00:20:05 scene of that like when would they have that like this dragon writing through the night and this and it's like medieval fantasy landscape like it was gorgeous to look at and was intense and there was that part of me that was like I hope not and like the reveal
Starting point is 00:20:25 of Agar like riding above them in the clouds was terrifying like there's terrifying I felt bad for the kid it felt like he was going to die the second they were like don't kill anyone just message I mean, not that this is much I mean kind of dumb run I'd like there's a part of me that thinks
Starting point is 00:20:41 part of that maneuver was a little bit silly honestly because it's like you're sending them into the lines then yeah they're showing up a fucking dragon you know you're literally sending them to people you know have since broken their oath and are just expecting that it will be fine when it's
Starting point is 00:20:57 wasn't it just yesterday when Amen was ready to like kick your kid's ass and what's to say like the second he shows up at the drag and Vagar rears her head, like, you're like, oh, yeah, well, of course they would have people around here. They're the source of all power right now in the realm. So, like, they would have people probably wherever all their allies are because they would expect, be expected, like, I think she would have, I think it would be reasonable to expect
Starting point is 00:21:22 that someone like Renera would know that there would probably be occupation or, you know, soldiers or something from the crown wherever she's going to send these people because if their allegiance is in question of course they're they're going to know that too and want to solidify it you know yeah no I mean apparently it happens in book
Starting point is 00:21:43 but I think though I mean just the so that's not on the show that's not a problem so yeah take that he went message you message now smart are you now book jk the thing is
Starting point is 00:21:59 You know what, though? The thing, a while ago, I was listening to something, and, you know, the critics said basically, like, instead of reading a book and then watching a movie, what he likes to do instead is do it the opposite way around. And this experience and then hearing, not so much like with the end of the Game of Thrones series, because I think that went the way it did for other reasons,
Starting point is 00:22:20 but something like this, I have thoroughly enjoyed for all 10 episodes and have, you know, like this feels like really gripping high-calibre event to you. still for me and it also still gets me excited for the idea of diving into the book at some point you know and and and seeing the level of detail change and and all of that the expansive experience won't do it no not until the show's over no yeah i mean that's yeah for an ongoing experience like this yeah i don't i don't want to spoil anything that might be rearranged out of context but it does make me curious it would be cool to catch easter eggs in the moment and stuff
Starting point is 00:22:57 and then be like, here's where they changed. And here's where it's going to lead to, or maybe not now, they can't lead there. Yeah, I like not knowing. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:07 especially when seeing how upsetting is when they changed. Well, yeah, because then you go, maybe I'll, yeah, I get to have the more enjoyable
Starting point is 00:23:14 experience with blissful ignorance. I heard people complaining. But I was like, I don't know spoilers, my social media. And then I watched it. I was like, I quite liked it.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I will say that generally this show has been every episode has gotten like a better for me yeah it started off great and it just kept getting greater and greater and greater and this was the first time i was like not greater like this is not my favorite like every new episode was becoming like ooh that's a contender for favorite episode like that's the way it was sort of going for me but this one um definitely like there were there some stuff about the last episode that made me go
Starting point is 00:23:55 I'm not sure but still good still great this sort of felt like the last and first episode of a season to me in a sense yeah yeah I felt like they were really
Starting point is 00:24:06 trying to wrap a lot up yeah and I was like why are we rapping stuff like you're set up yeah absolutely because I think you could still end on the same kind of note without having to wrap all that stuff up and leave some of that for later when we can expand on it
Starting point is 00:24:19 yeah if it was giving me a reminder of when people try to wrap a series up when I'm like you're not wrapping up a series you're wrapping up a season right now
Starting point is 00:24:27 but you're also you're leaving it open to continue it for next season so it's it's not like you have to end it in a way of we might not come back
Starting point is 00:24:36 so you know wrap it all like that's not that's not what you're doing so some stuff I thought was like no let's deal with like they just
Starting point is 00:24:44 soft as serious like let's have the grieving moments they just lost a baby like let's deal with this let's go into the conversations It's been one of the best parts about this show when they do take the time to have those conversations for a show that I feel like as master time jump,
Starting point is 00:25:00 they weirdly skip over a lot of what seems like very important things to deal with, with our characters that seem to be kind of like, this happens, oh, I'm sad, moving on. As opposed to something looming, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that I guess I would agree with that assessment yeah that like i like this episode a lot of lot of things about it it wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:25:25 yeah that continuous rise and and partly because i feel like another thing that has made the show so good on top of the grip on time jumping is the balance between again the big world political stakes and the small personal stakes the weight of the crown and all of its pursuits and this episode felt like it zoomed out more than it zoomed in and it left a lot of the zoomed in stuff I agree with that, yeah. Yeah, in the performances. So luckily, you have Emma Darsen, you have Matt Smith, and people who can carry that around with them.
Starting point is 00:25:57 But, yeah, I feel like the writing didn't do such a good job at balancing the two here. But, uh, Corlis Trump's cool. I always love Corliss. I don't remember what happened in this episode. Well, and, too, it's, I think it is interesting, and I would love to hear more opinions about the fact that,
Starting point is 00:26:13 like, I feel like the show has been marked. Like, you pointed out, there's the bookends of the births with, you know, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, you know, in the early, you know, the first episode. And then in the middle, you get not only a, a, a, a, a, a rinera birth, but you also get Lena and that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And then you get this. And, uh, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, like, the whole Lena thing, not that it's, like, directly tied to this, but there is a very heavy dragon element there. So it's like, there, there are these interesting symmetries and these interesting, you know, themes they've peppered throughout. Yeah, I'm not sure the purpose of it other than the, I mean, it's like, it's like, The symmetry is obvious, obviously correlate it. It's like, the first one is Renara's mom, Fissaris, dealing with this.
Starting point is 00:26:56 But that's, like, really tied to Rainera. And then, because that person could have been the boy, right? Yeah. The king for a day. There for a day, right? So. Got his own funeral pyre. That was more linked to Rainera.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And then the next one was more linked to Damon. and then now this is about both of them yeah you know so it's like yeah one two three commas this is the like it's the trilogy i wanted well and then two you have the one rain nearer birth which is like a weird display of strength where she's like damn it i'm marching into alice's room with my baby and here it's oh yeah there's at birth too yeah yeah yeah and then here you flip that around where it's like no one i am doing this alone and i am doing it on my terms and yeah it's like a much more sickly kind of golemy moment in a way so it's like never before have I seen a season so marked by traumatic birthing scenes well I think this
Starting point is 00:27:58 episode's pulse was interesting like it was a bit weird yeah like a bit lucid at times sometimes very sometimes I'll very like definitely focus on the immediate moment but I think it was there were there were some shortcomings in the season wrap up the syndrome and I because I because I there's plenty of times where I was like man this is really intense just I'm gearing up and learning information and like getting ready to go like this is intense I'm so craving pizza right now by the way like this is so intense just had a flash of pizza I was like house pepperoni house pineapple I could see the crust it's out of cheese is here and I just felt it's craving come over but it was it was it was good
Starting point is 00:28:43 It was a good one. I liked it a lot. It was very different than the other ones. And I think sometimes because I didn't have, I got the impression that sometimes they didn't have enough runtime to do the dialogue scenes. So they would try to really make up for it with like mood and atmosphere and tone and like the grieving scenes. Like just really no one talked, just really show it. And to be fair, to a degree.
Starting point is 00:29:13 it is a time for stone silence and reflective silence so i don't begrudged the episode those tones either and auto man he shows up oh god every time well now more than ever geez his master plan has come to fruition he is like all about himself right now mr confidence yeah no if there's anyone i want to see die it's him horribly i love watching him but he's also the one i'm like man you show up and just you talk like you're so pompous like you're so I just want you to die like smug is the word yeah you're a smug asshole seldom have I experienced a character where like when he when he gets you know relieved the first time of being hand and they send him away rare is the occasion where I'm like damn I'm kind of sad to see him go and the second he shows back up I'm like I hope someone kills him yeah but he showed up here I was like just go for it yeah burn him up kill him you know what's coming you know what's gonna happen yeah yeah yeah I'm all Also, I'm curious to see how this sits with me and how part of me thinks it's cool that they ended the season on. Here's one episode only from one perspective and one episode only from the other.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And part of me wonders if there could be some kind of maybe lacking symmetry and that we should have some kind of, I don't know, side by side at the very end. But I don't know. I thought it was kind of a unique choice given how much each episode is usually shown you a bit of everyone. I think doing that really helps establish the divide. yeah yeah of team green versus team blacks i i think that that was a great choice damn you were saying something in the no i don't i don't think it really needed them to come back around to it's anything including both sides like i think i think you're probably yeah it's like you leave us off with just how bad things have gotten at home in the last one and then this one it's yeah here's
Starting point is 00:31:05 here is here is the fight for next season and here is you know from our main perspective from Rainira's perspective, you know, what is to come? I think, you know, like, Amon having like Eric's accidentally attacked, like Eric's out of Luceris's control attacking didn't bother me. Vagar attacking out of Amon's control didn't bother me. It was only when I heard why I bothered people that i was like oh yeah i guess that would have been a stronger choice in the moment i was in the moment i didn't i didn't mind i was like oh shit that's terrible and even though they're both you know dragon riders to different degrees you know how can in control are they really their kids to some degree still you know so in that moment i bought it
Starting point is 00:31:55 for those various reasons so but then yeah yeah but when hearing that i like i like the choice more if Vaman was Amon, if Amon was Vamond is dead okay? He doesn't get to sit on Drift Mark. You know, our mark in your video
Starting point is 00:32:13 you got the name wrong. Corlis clearly talked about him okay. And Rainey's. It is stronger to me if Amid is as opposed to like great, another mistake
Starting point is 00:32:28 he's just happening. Yeah. Another mistake that's going to either make this character try and get more sentimental or just become much worse. Because I still feel, like, to me, it doesn't undercut that Aman made a mistake still. That this is still Amon's mistake. He's still the one who chose to, like, relentlessly pursue this guy out in this weather, but then ride that dragon.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And he was like, see, the whole time I thought I was trying to kill him. Yeah. So, like, you know, as opposed to just get the eye, the whole time I was convinced he was just trying to kill him. And so this is still his. fault you know like because like he oh you can't walk away going it's not my fault you can't walk away say that even though it was vagar who didn't listen to him you can't say that because I'm like well you got to push it to this point man yeah you invited this 100% I'm sure vagar is probably under the impression that doesn't what his job was to do you wanted that kid to believe he was
Starting point is 00:33:21 about to die and probably his dragon as well so what do you expect yeah yeah I still I still felt like it was his it was his fault regardless not like he's not he's not revoked of responsibility. Like I still feel like, no, he's pretty much like 99.9% responsible for what happened here.
Starting point is 00:33:39 So I think that's why, like, I like the choice of him just going headstrong into it. But, you know, if he tries to, like, do a whole episode of, like,
Starting point is 00:33:47 copping out of it. I was an accident, which I don't seem to do it. It almost seems like in this world, Amon would just be like, yeah, I killed him.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah, I guess I did. Yeah, sure. You know, he should have just let me just let me take the eye. It's his fault. He should have just let me
Starting point is 00:34:01 exact my, equal revenge and that's it instead he got himself eight and burned up all right guys well house of dragon you know it's like
Starting point is 00:34:16 I think the thing that has me worried is that the show has been so positively received yeah and then when this leaked it was like oh my god the book readers are all like pissed off
Starting point is 00:34:29 yeah yeah yeah they would be the ones who are like no no I don't care about the viewing experience. I'm going to go right in and see what this is. I'm like, I don't want to, I don't want to do this again. I know. I don't want to do this again. We've all been enjoying it. Please. Please, I know there's some who don't put, but it seem like everyone was happy. Let us have a one satisfying finale. I can't do this to my soul again. I know. What season two going to be like, is it going to be
Starting point is 00:34:53 a disaster or no? McElsa Pachnik, maybe it is a bigger deal. All righty. I hope it's, I hope it's good. maybe they'll take some notes from the internet we'll see you guys thanks for being here much love see you in two years

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