The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: House of the Dragon 1x8 "The Lord of the Tides" - REVIEW!!
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Wow.
Ending.
God damn.
Got shit to talk about.
Oh.
Heaviest family reunion in the realm.
all right so i think what happened here at the very end and please feel free to clear up without possibly
spoiling the future of this show i believe he was taught he thought he was talking to ranara
because she asked him earlier um when he when she was in bed yeah about the song of ice and
and asking if he believes it's true and he's saying you want to know if it's true so and and then that's
scene he thought alison came to him yeah so i think he's just getting confused so it's like kind of
a flipperoo here and then because because alison is not supposed to know about the prince that was
promised that that is a secret thing that's passed on in the blade of that can only be to the
targaryen or one who inherits i believe that's how the rules go right um what are the rules
of the zora high so but i believe that's what that's what it is so and it was
Agon the Conqueror who had the prophecy.
Yes.
And I think she's getting confused Allison right now.
Yeah.
Thinking that her agon.
That her Agon.
Because she keeps saying Prince Agon.
Yeah.
And I feel like Alicent is now interpreting it to mean a different thing.
Yeah.
Because I don't, because Allison shouldn't know about that.
No.
And that's why she was very confused.
And she was even saying in the scene, right?
She was even saying like, what hell are you talking about?
It's serious.
unite what now i feel like this misunderstanding song of what is going to lead to her not accepting
how things move forward now sure and that she thinks that visceris i could be way off
but what i do know is alison shouldn't know about that and so i feel like she's thinking that
vceris is saying that agon's the one and that's and that's also who alison is the one
Allison's always been telling Agon,
you're supposed to be the rightful error.
You're supposed to be the one to actually go out there.
And this is coming off of the heels of Allison accepting
that Rennera could be queen.
And now, I think it's all going to kind of backfire.
Undo all of this.
Yeah.
Oh, that's baddening.
I'm pretty sure that's what's going on.
Because I was like, why would he be talking to her about that?
And then I played it back a tiny bit.
And he said, I didn't catch it at first, but he said, you wanted it to know.
Like, oh, okay, yeah, I definitely think he's talking to run error.
Oh, oh, damn, what an uneasy grim note to end on.
Yeah, but it's already a stark.
That's the prince of us promised.
Don't forget that.
Yeah, it's true.
She's the one who used the blade.
Yeah, she took down that old night king like that.
Didn't upset people.
well i think the um if i'm not mistaken that that prince because that's it's with the whole lord
of light um religious system whatever you want to call it uh revolves around is this prophecy
and i think prince is i don't think it was gender specific because it's from valerian
okay heavy spoilers did like a really great paul they did a great you guys
guys know him better as have he supposed to he did a he did a great video uh just the other day um going
over um going over the silver reason why it's fresh in my mind and so yeah we'll be great if we
just watch that right now take a break yeah yeah it's a great it's a great video it is it's
actually a really wonderful theory video that could help explain why ariel was the one to ultimately
take down the night king okay based off of the encounter
that happened in the last episode when she did slash um not dany uh ranara so it's a really it's a really
really well constructed video but yeah uh there's none of this is covered in that video so i'm like
oh wow this is not it's totally unexpected to me uh but yeah let's see what the future holds but i
feel like this this ending scene obviously to end on it has to have some massive implications of
direction because you're like there's my way of the frickin alison de ronara is going to be like you're
Real this will be buzzing.
No way on episode eight.
Things are going to be just fine.
Everyone's going to accept what's going on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So shouts out to the king of the HOTD breakdowns right now.
Lennel's backtrack.
Let's go over the episode because this was a wonderful episode.
Again, they knocked it out of the park with introducing, I already forgot his name.
It's not, there's a vein or something?
Yeah, something like that.
Vainment.
For a second, I'm like, he also named it.
Damon. Oh, no, I know. We know. It's vaping. Wouldn't hurt George R. Martin. Change it up a little bit. Well, yeah. Change it up just a tiny bit more, please. And Lena's daughter's named after her, I think. So, like, so much crossover. Yeah, some of the names get confusing. But, like, introducing him and then seeing what the repercussions were of what the debate would become and then what it ultimately culminated into. And I don't know. I thought it was.
Harris died like three times and so maybe he's still alive
this stuff around I feel like I feel like he's going to outlive that baby
visitors at this point that's the subversion of this show the original Game of
Thrones series was like we're going to kill all kinds of characters you
wouldn't expect and this show is just we're going to keep this one guy alive
way longer than you could ever expect it's going to evolve into the future it's
going to evolve it to the futurama it's going to be a head in the jar
maesters are just going to wheel him in on a tray full of milk of the poppy
like let him die
just let him die
please put him after his
mystery he's 400
years old let him
go he can't speak
anymore he just blinks
with his one good eye
yeah
if this is a send-off
like what a performance
it looks like he's dead
it sure
comes across like that
but I just don't know
and I feel like it would be an
opportune time to have him be
dead or maybe
they'll make him like brain dead but like yeah because now he can't clarify any of this and I feel
like dramatically that will be the barrier and that will be the kind of the thing that will allow him
to slip off this coil is like oh there's a there's a way that you can uh you know after you've said
the thing to the wrong person that you shouldn't say you know there's no way you can you know
try and smooth this over again yeah you know and especially with no means to clarify I feel like
that will light the powder keg that has been brewing this whole season i mean all he's been trying
to do and it's and if i if i am to interpret what just happened here at the very end uh that he is
indeed dead is with his pacifistic ways has been just trying to keep the peace and trying to
keep everyone back in like everyone it's all family and blood and whatever and everyone here just
really looks at like the politics of it all and he's and as king he's the only one who's like
we can't forget so a family you guys you are my favorite people in the world here with me
tonight put down your penny difference like he's using his last moments to try to just end all quarrels
amidst inside this and like that moment when
he showed up in the middle of because i was like let's face it vehement i think it's his name he was
winning as much as i love for nera i'm like i think this guy i easily has to claim to drift
park please give it to this guy well i mean i think again even core list was like people don't
remember blood they remember names and uh in the last episode i think oh totally yeah yeah and it's a
compelling debate and as much as at the you know as much as i appreciate what he's saying and
And in some ways, I could, you know, kind of get on board with that.
In other ways, I'm like, well, given, I don't know, it's fascinating to watch as people dance on ceremony and all the, this show makes a really great display and it exists in every government, society culture.
But, yeah, like the ways in which people ignore the truth in favor of the structures we have set in place and agree upon.
And, yeah, that whole thing about blood versus, it's like I felt so much for what Coralus was.
saying even in Rehnese's, you know, protest at that point about, yeah, it's the name that
counts. I will be remembered if my name continues, but I don't know. I mean, there is something
fundamental and elemental about blood, and I feel like that's one of those things that will
come down. Like, I bet every viewer probably agrees differently. And here, yeah, like, I thought
he made a very compelling argument, and there was only one.
Whose compelling argument was all based in truth?
Totally.
I'm not lying about anything.
totally like at the end of the day those are not they're not they're not actual
blood use so yeah i think that uh it was it's interesting because you don't want her
necessarily renner to lose but you know especially when it cuts back to rannies uh when she's
looking at evan's half decapitated head uh that i'm like oh man i feel so bad for i was so caught up in the
moment.
Yeah.
And then even when he shows up, you know, like she thought she had a chance to win.
Uh-huh.
And then, of course, when Vicerra shows up, it's like, this is the defeat right there.
Like just this overwhelming presence just takes over the room.
And of course, the respect of hierarchy.
And then the one guy who stands up to it all with the truth is cut down.
Permanently silenced.
Yeah.
It could have handled it better.
yes i mean he he knew he made his choice he clearly waited to say it he clearly accepted death in that
moment yeah i think is i think a lot of the performances always have such great underlying like weight behind
what they're all really communicating even sometimes when you're just talking politics
you could see like right away in that first scene when renara and damon unite with vassaris
and how he can't deal with the uncomfortableness of this situation,
whether he can't face his brother.
And you can imagine all kinds of things going on underneath Damon.
If I haven't been there with my brother,
this is kind of painful for me to see Vissaris like this.
And then Rennara has, you know,
she went there for a political purpose.
And then it's becoming about family now.
I'm like, I want you to be a grandson.
You know, like there's so much other, other,
things going on underneath the surface and I think that's what's so great about the writing packed
with the acting all in one they all do that so well in a whole debate scene too so even when they're
exchanging like this shows like the master at exchanging looks yes so when they're even when they're
exchanging looks with Vaman and Damon and then my god those names with Vamon and Damon and you
they just both know you know like when he eggs him on like just say it and they're making a choice
right there and Vaman's like once I say this yeah I'm done
especially yeah I've I've I've watched systematically through this conversation as my claim is being ignored and written over so yeah like I best best go out with honor but yeah exactly in his perception he's dying with honor yeah and so I think that's kind of great and what an impact to make in one episode sure it hasn't been in any other episodes right like I don't want to call him in being not not prominently like maybe a little bit in like a previous one or two but yeah like this is definitely he is a
character this episode if he has shown up who's the actor plays of stars patty concedine
fantastic yeah just uh yeah the arc this guy has had to go to it's like you're gonna start off very
charismatic and you're gonna have a lot of dialogue and we're gonna let you like deteriorate over the
course of several episodes fascinating i bet that's a fascinating journey for an actor because
yeah i mean not only do you have all these physical things happening to you
but you also have to really live a harsh and long life on screen.
And then, yeah, like check back in often years later each time.
And he's always felt so consistent.
And it always feels, no matter how long the jump,
this is like six years of a jump.
But each time, you can feel the in-between moments
just due to the richness of his performance.
And yeah, in an episode like this, I imagine it's got to be a lot on an actor
because, you know, like the scenes have to flow,
but you don't want to be sitting there thinking about
how long am I pausing and things like that
and so like to play somebody in this completely
sickly state who is
you know
the use of breath and speech
is you know immense effort
enough like he really sells it
in a way that's not you know garish
it's just really natural
and really affecting
and he's so like it's so sad it's weird
it's like you root for him
but like he's so earnest
and sad
yeah kind of always
and even hear his display of strength and his display of, you know, authority is sad, is mournful.
And, yeah, I don't know.
Like, I can't think of, I'm sure there are other examples of it.
But, you know, like this, the performance really does stand out for that because, yeah, I mean, he's presented to you in this position.
Yeah, like you said, of being very charismatic.
But you also have so many reasons to suspect that you're just not made for this.
world and somehow he's stuck it out but he's been punished so heavily by the circumstances that it
feels like he's still lived this tragic life even though he's technically you know kind of won in a
lot of ways yeah you know a thousand percent yeah and like the again all the yeah little micro
little expressions and to play those through you know dementia and and you know ailing physical
state and all that stuff you know kudos well i love i love i love
of the performances here from uh emma darcy and olivia cook because they they carry on the childhood
that we saw the former actors portray and that's something that always resonates and especially
in this episode when they had a chance to kind of soften up and you know remind get a reminder of
we weren't always like this and we were both kind of
put in positions we didn't ask for and here we are now yeah you know deal with a lot of crap
that was thrust it and a lot of things got taken much more serious once we became others you know
so to have these moments of just oh it's nice to give them some soft tender moments before
shit gets terrible again because you know it's going to i i really love the harmony between
the writing and the acting because yeah like the the writing is very rich and the writing acknowledges the
surface levels. And then the acting often has to convey so much contrast underneath. And it was
refreshing. It was a fascinating scene that dinner scene because it's like you watch as the adults,
or at least, you know, Reneira and Alicent and, you know, Sarah's between them. But, you know,
you watch them, yeah, come past all the rigamarole and all the bullshit into what feels like a
very genuine moment as you're watching
the kids do like the
future generations do the complete
inverse where it's like well
okay all everyone
all the adults in the room are telling us
we got to do this charades so
we're going to do it in the least
genuine way possible
and we're only going to drive our wedges
further how come Eamon turned
into like a 30 year old man
and he's
I had to do a double take because
they also like switched physiques to
whereas like agon used to be like the lanky long hair and now he's you know a bit stockier and then yeah
amand is just like he just yeah looks like he's a completely different human who emerged from the depths of
some dark pit and yeah he's just sitting there just like eye eyeballing everybody but i also like
how there seems to be a tad bit of mirroring between um him and damon
I love when they faced off in that moment, that brief moment.
It's like even Daven seems to kind of get who he is.
Sure, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Even smirks about it after Amon walks away.
Yeah, Amon's scary.
He's terrifying.
He seems like since that night, the show's so good at the time.
I think that's why the time jumps are so good,
because a lot of times, whatever the ending point is of a show of the episode,
The time jump is like, and here is how they all changed because of that day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Here are the effects of that down the line.
Yeah.
Like, I think that's just so wonderfully constructed because, you know, you had a version of Aman as a child who was like a little bit cheapish.
Yeah.
And then he was trying to find strength and courage and was bullied and the pig.
And then when he got his, when he got Vagar and he got his eye slashed, that's like, and he
He had that very specific cold look at the very end that went to the little boy.
And I'm like, Zach, there's an adult actor.
That's the same exact look.
And it seems like he just, you can feel this sense that he has fantasized about
killing the one who took his eye for so long.
Yeah, just every day for these past six years.
And to the contrast, again, between that moment when they have the conference.
over his eye and he makes that realization of like okay like how i behave here affects my mother
and could have serious you know repercussions for her and now here he seems to be headed in the
opposite direction and seems to be you know kind of shedding you know he's a bit older and it's got
to read like bullshit so you know yeah the the lines of like pageantry and putting up faces
are precious thin
especially with those two
like the two
Amon and
and Agon like
I love the Agon's just like smirking
it like he seems to have just
maintained the like I don't really take much of anything
seriously kind of attitude
and yeah
Amon's just been stewing and
probably is going to become a very harsh and ruthless
character
kids became a lot more interesting this episode
yeah and I mean
it's funny it's a fascinating tap
it's again a testament to how well they're
able to weave all these stakes because you feel for Reneiro's kids and you kind of feel they have
obviously like an underdogish quality because you know it's a very thin line between the truth and
what protects them and then you know you have their claim on Driftmark which is actively kind
of corroding and erasing you know like a strong and honorable family name and it's not really
their fault but also you know they are in a kind of messed up situation that they're
that they will then benefit from.
And then you have Amon and Agon who are, you know,
clearly aware of what should have been,
like all the, yeah, all the colliding stakes make everything so tense,
but also like vital, you know, in a way.
Well, I mean, they killed that woman.
And the other thing, too, is they killed that woman at the beginning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and I forget her name.
whoever
the former
brothel
I completely forget her name
but they teased it at the end
she had a spy in there
was like a maid
and she was there
to deliver the drink
that would kill her
and I'm like what
I guess from one perspective is that
the queen, Allison
is the one who
covered up something
egregious
I feel like in this world
Is that really surprising
That Allison would do that?
I guess I'm a little
I wouldn't be surprised
What I'm saying is I'm disconnected from how the people
At King's Landing would respond
To that alias
To learning of the information
Of what the queen
I don't know I guess anything of
But it's like any kind of accusation
is just a crime
is treason
yeah
I'm not sure what to make
of what's to become of that though
yeah yeah yeah
what game is
is Damon's former flame running
in keeping track of all this
and what would be the further
repercussions of having that information
that
a gone
assault of that woman
and then
and then
the queen covered it up
I don't know, in the current system, you know, there are no repercussions, nothing gets out, but also, I mean, you can see, yeah, yeah, in an empire that right now is already, you know, a victim of infighting and is, you know, I forget the direct quote now, but yeah, like, you know, a house divided is, you know, is weak and prone to fall and that could easily, like, with all the stuff surrounding Rainira and all the things we saw the people in the street saying,
a few episodes back, you know, this could
easily taint and tarnish.
Like, I bet
because we got Agon
with the prophecy, slipped
to Allison at the end,
I imagine some kind of
foisting of his status will come out of that,
but then if this information is also out
that, you know, this was covered up
and this is what he did, then they can
sow those seeds of deceit among the people
too, so I don't know.
It all translates into a mess
for me. Yeah. It'll just become,
an even messy or even more disgusting
situation than it already is.
And that's the thing that this episode has that
the show does, but
there are constant big
reminders of like, oh yeah,
this is not a world where the truth
sets anyone free.
Well,
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Anisa Oliva.
Now Anisa,
the real rejects
has been predominantly men
this entire time.
But one day,
we'll pass. I'll go.
John will go.
I guess you would assume
maybe Koi's next in line to take over
then. But no.
We've decided that
you will be queen of the region.
you will inherit the real rejects channel now I know you don't film videos I know you don't edit I know you don't know how to make thumbnails
I know you don't understand SEO and there's a lot you don't understand well that's why it's going to burn at the ground in your hands
I'm not going to lie I have zero faith that you're going to be able to keep this boat steady you are not the song of ice and fire yet you will be blamed entirely for the downfall of the real reach
And I think just as a woman, you should inherently have the strength to take on unfair blame.
So Anisa, you are the perfect victim of the circumstance that we are dealing for you right now.
And you have no say in the matter.
No say.
No.
Oh, my God.
What?
And if anybody tries to put coy on the iron throne of the reject nation.
Oh, it's going to be held to raise.
Oh, my God.
In fact, we should just kill him the next time he comes in.
in just to make sure.
Yeah.
And Sally, and we have to kill Sally.
He thinks he's having G fuel when he comes here.
Slowly poisoning.
Dude.
Milk with a poppy on Koi.
So, Nisa, I would say I'm sorry, but hey, that's just the world we live in.
Let's get used to it.
Thank you for me for like years, Nisa.
You're right.
Thank you.