The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: House of the Dragon 1x8 "The Lord of the Tides" - REVIEW!!

Episode Date: October 10, 2022

WOW! House Of The Dragon 1x8 Reaction, Recap, Breakdown, Ending Explained, & Review (heavy spoilers today) as we cover an older Aemond & Aegon as Vaemond Velaryon challenges Rhaenrya Targaryen for the... driftwood throne with Daemon in her corner, King Viserys is on his last legs, and featuring Alicent, Otto Hightower, Rhaenys Targaryen, & MORE. #HouseOfTheDragon #GameOfThrones #HBO #HOTD #HBOMax #MattSmith #rhaenyratargaryen #daemontargaryen #asongoficeandfire Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions + HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Watch Alongs! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Support The Channel By Checking Out Our High-Quality Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 Got shit to talk about. Oh. Heaviest family reunion in the realm. all right so i think what happened here at the very end and please feel free to clear up without possibly spoiling the future of this show i believe he was taught he thought he was talking to ranara because she asked him earlier um when he when she was in bed yeah about the song of ice and and asking if he believes it's true and he's saying you want to know if it's true so and and then that's scene he thought alison came to him yeah so i think he's just getting confused so it's like kind of
Starting point is 00:01:34 a flipperoo here and then because because alison is not supposed to know about the prince that was promised that that is a secret thing that's passed on in the blade of that can only be to the targaryen or one who inherits i believe that's how the rules go right um what are the rules of the zora high so but i believe that's what that's what it is so and it was Agon the Conqueror who had the prophecy. Yes. And I think she's getting confused Allison right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Thinking that her agon. That her Agon. Because she keeps saying Prince Agon. Yeah. And I feel like Alicent is now interpreting it to mean a different thing. Yeah. Because I don't, because Allison shouldn't know about that. No.
Starting point is 00:02:22 And that's why she was very confused. And she was even saying in the scene, right? She was even saying like, what hell are you talking about? It's serious. unite what now i feel like this misunderstanding song of what is going to lead to her not accepting how things move forward now sure and that she thinks that visceris i could be way off but what i do know is alison shouldn't know about that and so i feel like she's thinking that vceris is saying that agon's the one and that's and that's also who alison is the one
Starting point is 00:02:59 Allison's always been telling Agon, you're supposed to be the rightful error. You're supposed to be the one to actually go out there. And this is coming off of the heels of Allison accepting that Rennera could be queen. And now, I think it's all going to kind of backfire. Undo all of this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Oh, that's baddening. I'm pretty sure that's what's going on. Because I was like, why would he be talking to her about that? And then I played it back a tiny bit. And he said, I didn't catch it at first, but he said, you wanted it to know. Like, oh, okay, yeah, I definitely think he's talking to run error. Oh, oh, damn, what an uneasy grim note to end on. Yeah, but it's already a stark.
Starting point is 00:03:46 That's the prince of us promised. Don't forget that. Yeah, it's true. She's the one who used the blade. Yeah, she took down that old night king like that. Didn't upset people. well i think the um if i'm not mistaken that that prince because that's it's with the whole lord of light um religious system whatever you want to call it uh revolves around is this prophecy
Starting point is 00:04:09 and i think prince is i don't think it was gender specific because it's from valerian okay heavy spoilers did like a really great paul they did a great you guys guys know him better as have he supposed to he did a he did a great video uh just the other day um going over um going over the silver reason why it's fresh in my mind and so yeah we'll be great if we just watch that right now take a break yeah yeah it's a great it's a great video it is it's actually a really wonderful theory video that could help explain why ariel was the one to ultimately take down the night king okay based off of the encounter that happened in the last episode when she did slash um not dany uh ranara so it's a really it's a really
Starting point is 00:05:02 really well constructed video but yeah uh there's none of this is covered in that video so i'm like oh wow this is not it's totally unexpected to me uh but yeah let's see what the future holds but i feel like this this ending scene obviously to end on it has to have some massive implications of direction because you're like there's my way of the frickin alison de ronara is going to be like you're Real this will be buzzing. No way on episode eight. Things are going to be just fine. Everyone's going to accept what's going on.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah. Yeah. So shouts out to the king of the HOTD breakdowns right now. Lennel's backtrack. Let's go over the episode because this was a wonderful episode. Again, they knocked it out of the park with introducing, I already forgot his name. It's not, there's a vein or something? Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Vainment. For a second, I'm like, he also named it. Damon. Oh, no, I know. We know. It's vaping. Wouldn't hurt George R. Martin. Change it up a little bit. Well, yeah. Change it up just a tiny bit more, please. And Lena's daughter's named after her, I think. So, like, so much crossover. Yeah, some of the names get confusing. But, like, introducing him and then seeing what the repercussions were of what the debate would become and then what it ultimately culminated into. And I don't know. I thought it was. Harris died like three times and so maybe he's still alive this stuff around I feel like I feel like he's going to outlive that baby visitors at this point that's the subversion of this show the original Game of Thrones series was like we're going to kill all kinds of characters you wouldn't expect and this show is just we're going to keep this one guy alive
Starting point is 00:06:40 way longer than you could ever expect it's going to evolve into the future it's going to evolve it to the futurama it's going to be a head in the jar maesters are just going to wheel him in on a tray full of milk of the poppy like let him die just let him die please put him after his mystery he's 400 years old let him
Starting point is 00:07:01 go he can't speak anymore he just blinks with his one good eye yeah if this is a send-off like what a performance it looks like he's dead it sure
Starting point is 00:07:15 comes across like that but I just don't know and I feel like it would be an opportune time to have him be dead or maybe they'll make him like brain dead but like yeah because now he can't clarify any of this and I feel like dramatically that will be the barrier and that will be the kind of the thing that will allow him to slip off this coil is like oh there's a there's a way that you can uh you know after you've said
Starting point is 00:07:42 the thing to the wrong person that you shouldn't say you know there's no way you can you know try and smooth this over again yeah you know and especially with no means to clarify I feel like that will light the powder keg that has been brewing this whole season i mean all he's been trying to do and it's and if i if i am to interpret what just happened here at the very end uh that he is indeed dead is with his pacifistic ways has been just trying to keep the peace and trying to keep everyone back in like everyone it's all family and blood and whatever and everyone here just really looks at like the politics of it all and he's and as king he's the only one who's like we can't forget so a family you guys you are my favorite people in the world here with me
Starting point is 00:08:38 tonight put down your penny difference like he's using his last moments to try to just end all quarrels amidst inside this and like that moment when he showed up in the middle of because i was like let's face it vehement i think it's his name he was winning as much as i love for nera i'm like i think this guy i easily has to claim to drift park please give it to this guy well i mean i think again even core list was like people don't remember blood they remember names and uh in the last episode i think oh totally yeah yeah and it's a compelling debate and as much as at the you know as much as i appreciate what he's saying and And in some ways, I could, you know, kind of get on board with that.
Starting point is 00:09:24 In other ways, I'm like, well, given, I don't know, it's fascinating to watch as people dance on ceremony and all the, this show makes a really great display and it exists in every government, society culture. But, yeah, like the ways in which people ignore the truth in favor of the structures we have set in place and agree upon. And, yeah, that whole thing about blood versus, it's like I felt so much for what Coralus was. saying even in Rehnese's, you know, protest at that point about, yeah, it's the name that counts. I will be remembered if my name continues, but I don't know. I mean, there is something fundamental and elemental about blood, and I feel like that's one of those things that will come down. Like, I bet every viewer probably agrees differently. And here, yeah, like, I thought he made a very compelling argument, and there was only one.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Whose compelling argument was all based in truth? Totally. I'm not lying about anything. totally like at the end of the day those are not they're not they're not actual blood use so yeah i think that uh it was it's interesting because you don't want her necessarily renner to lose but you know especially when it cuts back to rannies uh when she's looking at evan's half decapitated head uh that i'm like oh man i feel so bad for i was so caught up in the moment.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah. And then even when he shows up, you know, like she thought she had a chance to win. Uh-huh. And then, of course, when Vicerra shows up, it's like, this is the defeat right there. Like just this overwhelming presence just takes over the room. And of course, the respect of hierarchy. And then the one guy who stands up to it all with the truth is cut down. Permanently silenced.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Yeah. It could have handled it better. yes i mean he he knew he made his choice he clearly waited to say it he clearly accepted death in that moment yeah i think is i think a lot of the performances always have such great underlying like weight behind what they're all really communicating even sometimes when you're just talking politics you could see like right away in that first scene when renara and damon unite with vassaris and how he can't deal with the uncomfortableness of this situation, whether he can't face his brother.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And you can imagine all kinds of things going on underneath Damon. If I haven't been there with my brother, this is kind of painful for me to see Vissaris like this. And then Rennara has, you know, she went there for a political purpose. And then it's becoming about family now. I'm like, I want you to be a grandson. You know, like there's so much other, other,
Starting point is 00:12:16 things going on underneath the surface and I think that's what's so great about the writing packed with the acting all in one they all do that so well in a whole debate scene too so even when they're exchanging like this shows like the master at exchanging looks yes so when they're even when they're exchanging looks with Vaman and Damon and then my god those names with Vamon and Damon and you they just both know you know like when he eggs him on like just say it and they're making a choice right there and Vaman's like once I say this yeah I'm done especially yeah I've I've I've watched systematically through this conversation as my claim is being ignored and written over so yeah like I best best go out with honor but yeah exactly in his perception he's dying with honor yeah and so I think that's kind of great and what an impact to make in one episode sure it hasn't been in any other episodes right like I don't want to call him in being not not prominently like maybe a little bit in like a previous one or two but yeah like this is definitely he is a character this episode if he has shown up who's the actor plays of stars patty concedine
Starting point is 00:13:22 fantastic yeah just uh yeah the arc this guy has had to go to it's like you're gonna start off very charismatic and you're gonna have a lot of dialogue and we're gonna let you like deteriorate over the course of several episodes fascinating i bet that's a fascinating journey for an actor because yeah i mean not only do you have all these physical things happening to you but you also have to really live a harsh and long life on screen. And then, yeah, like check back in often years later each time. And he's always felt so consistent. And it always feels, no matter how long the jump,
Starting point is 00:14:01 this is like six years of a jump. But each time, you can feel the in-between moments just due to the richness of his performance. And yeah, in an episode like this, I imagine it's got to be a lot on an actor because, you know, like the scenes have to flow, but you don't want to be sitting there thinking about how long am I pausing and things like that and so like to play somebody in this completely
Starting point is 00:14:21 sickly state who is you know the use of breath and speech is you know immense effort enough like he really sells it in a way that's not you know garish it's just really natural and really affecting
Starting point is 00:14:36 and he's so like it's so sad it's weird it's like you root for him but like he's so earnest and sad yeah kind of always and even hear his display of strength and his display of, you know, authority is sad, is mournful. And, yeah, I don't know. Like, I can't think of, I'm sure there are other examples of it.
Starting point is 00:15:01 But, you know, like this, the performance really does stand out for that because, yeah, I mean, he's presented to you in this position. Yeah, like you said, of being very charismatic. But you also have so many reasons to suspect that you're just not made for this. world and somehow he's stuck it out but he's been punished so heavily by the circumstances that it feels like he's still lived this tragic life even though he's technically you know kind of won in a lot of ways yeah you know a thousand percent yeah and like the again all the yeah little micro little expressions and to play those through you know dementia and and you know ailing physical state and all that stuff you know kudos well i love i love i love
Starting point is 00:15:45 of the performances here from uh emma darcy and olivia cook because they they carry on the childhood that we saw the former actors portray and that's something that always resonates and especially in this episode when they had a chance to kind of soften up and you know remind get a reminder of we weren't always like this and we were both kind of put in positions we didn't ask for and here we are now yeah you know deal with a lot of crap that was thrust it and a lot of things got taken much more serious once we became others you know so to have these moments of just oh it's nice to give them some soft tender moments before shit gets terrible again because you know it's going to i i really love the harmony between
Starting point is 00:16:39 the writing and the acting because yeah like the the writing is very rich and the writing acknowledges the surface levels. And then the acting often has to convey so much contrast underneath. And it was refreshing. It was a fascinating scene that dinner scene because it's like you watch as the adults, or at least, you know, Reneira and Alicent and, you know, Sarah's between them. But, you know, you watch them, yeah, come past all the rigamarole and all the bullshit into what feels like a very genuine moment as you're watching the kids do like the future generations do the complete
Starting point is 00:17:20 inverse where it's like well okay all everyone all the adults in the room are telling us we got to do this charades so we're going to do it in the least genuine way possible and we're only going to drive our wedges further how come Eamon turned
Starting point is 00:17:35 into like a 30 year old man and he's I had to do a double take because they also like switched physiques to whereas like agon used to be like the lanky long hair and now he's you know a bit stockier and then yeah amand is just like he just yeah looks like he's a completely different human who emerged from the depths of some dark pit and yeah he's just sitting there just like eye eyeballing everybody but i also like how there seems to be a tad bit of mirroring between um him and damon
Starting point is 00:18:08 I love when they faced off in that moment, that brief moment. It's like even Daven seems to kind of get who he is. Sure, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Even smirks about it after Amon walks away. Yeah, Amon's scary. He's terrifying. He seems like since that night, the show's so good at the time. I think that's why the time jumps are so good,
Starting point is 00:18:32 because a lot of times, whatever the ending point is of a show of the episode, The time jump is like, and here is how they all changed because of that day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here are the effects of that down the line. Yeah. Like, I think that's just so wonderfully constructed because, you know, you had a version of Aman as a child who was like a little bit cheapish.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Yeah. And then he was trying to find strength and courage and was bullied and the pig. And then when he got his, when he got Vagar and he got his eye slashed, that's like, and he He had that very specific cold look at the very end that went to the little boy. And I'm like, Zach, there's an adult actor. That's the same exact look. And it seems like he just, you can feel this sense that he has fantasized about killing the one who took his eye for so long.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah, just every day for these past six years. And to the contrast, again, between that moment when they have the conference. over his eye and he makes that realization of like okay like how i behave here affects my mother and could have serious you know repercussions for her and now here he seems to be headed in the opposite direction and seems to be you know kind of shedding you know he's a bit older and it's got to read like bullshit so you know yeah the the lines of like pageantry and putting up faces are precious thin especially with those two
Starting point is 00:20:09 like the two Amon and and Agon like I love the Agon's just like smirking it like he seems to have just maintained the like I don't really take much of anything seriously kind of attitude and yeah
Starting point is 00:20:22 Amon's just been stewing and probably is going to become a very harsh and ruthless character kids became a lot more interesting this episode yeah and I mean it's funny it's a fascinating tap it's again a testament to how well they're able to weave all these stakes because you feel for Reneiro's kids and you kind of feel they have
Starting point is 00:20:41 obviously like an underdogish quality because you know it's a very thin line between the truth and what protects them and then you know you have their claim on Driftmark which is actively kind of corroding and erasing you know like a strong and honorable family name and it's not really their fault but also you know they are in a kind of messed up situation that they're that they will then benefit from. And then you have Amon and Agon who are, you know, clearly aware of what should have been, like all the, yeah, all the colliding stakes make everything so tense,
Starting point is 00:21:21 but also like vital, you know, in a way. Well, I mean, they killed that woman. And the other thing, too, is they killed that woman at the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I forget her name. whoever the former
Starting point is 00:21:38 brothel I completely forget her name but they teased it at the end she had a spy in there was like a maid and she was there to deliver the drink that would kill her
Starting point is 00:21:51 and I'm like what I guess from one perspective is that the queen, Allison is the one who covered up something egregious I feel like in this world Is that really surprising
Starting point is 00:22:10 That Allison would do that? I guess I'm a little I wouldn't be surprised What I'm saying is I'm disconnected from how the people At King's Landing would respond To that alias To learning of the information Of what the queen
Starting point is 00:22:28 I don't know I guess anything of But it's like any kind of accusation is just a crime is treason yeah I'm not sure what to make of what's to become of that though yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:22:43 what game is is Damon's former flame running in keeping track of all this and what would be the further repercussions of having that information that a gone assault of that woman
Starting point is 00:22:57 and then and then the queen covered it up I don't know, in the current system, you know, there are no repercussions, nothing gets out, but also, I mean, you can see, yeah, yeah, in an empire that right now is already, you know, a victim of infighting and is, you know, I forget the direct quote now, but yeah, like, you know, a house divided is, you know, is weak and prone to fall and that could easily, like, with all the stuff surrounding Rainira and all the things we saw the people in the street saying, a few episodes back, you know, this could easily taint and tarnish. Like, I bet because we got Agon
Starting point is 00:23:39 with the prophecy, slipped to Allison at the end, I imagine some kind of foisting of his status will come out of that, but then if this information is also out that, you know, this was covered up and this is what he did, then they can sow those seeds of deceit among the people
Starting point is 00:23:55 too, so I don't know. It all translates into a mess for me. Yeah. It'll just become, an even messy or even more disgusting situation than it already is. And that's the thing that this episode has that the show does, but there are constant big
Starting point is 00:24:12 reminders of like, oh yeah, this is not a world where the truth sets anyone free. Well, the show just keeps delivering, guys. Hey, what did you think about this episode? Leave your thoughts down below.
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