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Back to talking about how's the drag.
Wow, what a, what a cool episode.
You don't cut to Renair or Damon once this entire time.
This whole time, you're just like,
what are they going to react a lot?
I'm going to fly out.
Don't ruin it for me in this comments, you bastards.
The next episode is just going to be 20 minutes of Rainier
and screaming, what?
I have successfully avoided spoilers for this stuff.
Yeah, I think it ruined shit for me.
Yeah, that was a very tense, gripping episode,
and so conflicting because you're thrusted into perspectives here that you know is just not true.
But then you're kind of find your side.
It's like you could either just play on the sidelines and observe or you can start kind of adopting a perspective here.
And, you know, it's like, of course I don't agree with all with what happened.
But I thought one of the most enriching emotional tolls that they managed to ring out of this given situation was,
you're like god damn it alison you don't know what you're talking about you know you don't know what
happened and but then when it came time to like find agon and the and the conversation that she has with
rainies rainies sorry that's how i say it rainies it's conversation that she has with her
you know it's like you do find her going but i want her to take like some kind of stand against auto
because he's been a real dick and a lot of this has been uh his manipulation pulling the string so i'm like
if this is going to happen she should at least have ownership over this
situation you know and do have it done her way so you do have that compelling side because at least in the
i have not read the book so at least in the way it is illustrated here in this series i understand
where she's coming from all right do i agree no am i on her side absolutely not but she does think
she's honoring
the Saris's dying wish
and that's the part
where you're like, well, if that's the
way you think and feel and believe this
right now, and I understand
why you think that, given the
circumstances you're being dealt here with
Otto High Tower, I
see why you feel
that. All right.
All right.
Let's be back to the conversation.
Okay, that was weird.
Camera just cut randomly.
All right, sorry about that.
Anyway, as we're talking, I'm going to leave just, I'm not even going to try to marry the clips properly.
I'm just going to leave the fact that the camera couldn't hear just that raw.
So, yeah, when you have this conversation, this debate, I found myself like, you know, I feel bad for her because she clearly, it's such a fascinating seat to be in from an, I feel like book readers have no issue.
Like, no, screw else.
You know.
Yeah, totally.
That's every impression I've heard up until now.
No sympathy whatsoever.
Don't trust her.
No matter what they do on the show, don't trust her.
Well, I feel like they're going to make her worse.
You can just feel that happening.
You know, like she is morphing and morphing over time.
And then in some ways with Rainies of how she sort of empowers Alicent in this moment.
And even at the very tail end with the showoff,
where she could have just been like, you guys are a bunch of sex of shit.
I'm going to burst you on the flames right now.
She didn't.
There was even that little bit of exchange of,
there's a bit of admiration of what you just did,
but I'm flying off, right?
You played the game well,
game, recognized game,
but also I'm getting the hell out of here.
Yeah, follow me if you want.
Rainis almost looked at the camera.
It was like, welcome to the Game of Thrones.
Flew off.
You don't got the stomach for it.
Get out now.
And then, yeah, there's so many different
compelling factors here because
like auto high tower is just
morphing into full on bulging red eyes
guy. Yes.
Pull the strings.
Poor distrings.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And just watching like I love the way he
plays that character because it's like it's
the more we experience
his strategy and his actions
the greater
the argument becomes for like
never ever trusting
a single emotional beat that comes out
of him. And I think he's a fascinating character
due to that. He comes back to that thing of
just trying to act in the best interests
of the realm and all that stuff.
And there are parts of me that kind of still believe
that, but yeah, like he...
Oh, screw that. No, he just...
The closer he gets, yeah.
A bunch of bullshit. Like, he wants to...
They were plotting that forever. Yeah.
Yeah, and I mean, he seems like the kind of guy who wants to be the
de facto king, you know, and it was...
It was almost... Sorry, I have to interrupt.
It was almost as if
when Allison's
revealed
the king's dying wish
that everyone
on that council
who was skeeving
was like
shit
why didn't we think
to just say that
when he died
wow he did
the rest of the
planning for us
we could have just said
he whispered this
yeah
we could have done this anytime
what is wrong with us
in fact we could have
just locked him up
killed him ourselves
said he did that
and then passed it off
his natural causes
what is wrong with us
yeah
yeah
one it it clues you in
like what's so great about this episode across the board
but especially what's so maddening about this
exact situation is yeah it is like
it's so human and in this
period of time especially like it's all word
against word against account
against account and so
it's no wonder they do everything
so fast because it's like you expect me to
believe like I love you pointed that out like
Abon sorry seems to be the one guy who's like really
mom
dad said this right before he died and no one was there
really
but yeah like the mistake made you know he misjudges who's with him and that leads to all of this
and then again you know like all these little fragile again perceptions and convictions that make up
the real tapestry of what this is so easy to focus on the action and yet certain of the most pivotal
moments come from just little human errors and I think that's really beautiful and really
maddening and really fascinating and it makes for like really tense storytelling because it
contributes to that idea that anything could happen because i just for some reason my mind went
after last week's episode which by the way i got to love comments who were like think you were confused
on what happened at the end there and then there were people where i was like you just waited 40 seconds
literally yeah like 30 to 40 seconds you would have seen no i said exactly what you said in that
comment and more
there was a lot of it was not
confused on what happened
yeah go patience
appreciate you looking at
though I will say it wasn't mean
spirited I don't want to act like you guys are being
dicks like you guys are actually like wait
it might be confused you know
my own ego was just getting like
what the fuck guys I did get it you know because
sometimes you feel like you want that credit you want
credit for getting stuff
so but no one was a dick about it
they were actually they were actually trying to
clarify in case I forgot in case we didn't
understand. But no, we completely
understand it happened. I was under the impression
that there was going to be like
a debate about what to
do. I didn't think it was going to
be, he said that. All right,
activate planet. Yeah, yeah.
It's like, activate Operation AGO on the throne.
We've been plotting this for the past 10 years and all we needed
was this one moment.
Yeah, I did not think that's how it was going to go.
I thought it was going to be like an episode of like discussion
and some type of, because yeah,
Yeah, they had the debate at the beginning with the council, and I liked the position Allison took.
Screw it.
All right.
I love the way Allison's written in this show.
I think she's running great, right?
And I'm very, very much drawn to her character.
Like, I don't, it's an interesting position as an honest person to be like, I'm so not on your side, but I completely get why you think the way you're thinking and why you're doing what you're doing, you know?
Like, I do really love the way she's written.
And it's not even like, I love to hate you kind of relationship.
Yeah.
It's like, I get you, even though I just don't agree.
with you um but she was even like she's so about because you you do explore that she just
still has a moral compass to us to an extent everyone in the game of thrones world has that
asterisk of to an extent all right and she has still that feeling of really she loved
deseris and she wanted to honor she wants to honor's dying wish and she was even like
i don't feel like we should go behind we're nearer i'm i don't want to like she had that
contemplate at first she had that contemplation we got to do
this now but she did have that contemplation of i go you know like viscerus wouldn't want
she didn't want ranara to die period plain and simple she didn't want ranara executed
even though did he go behind her back and did this whole thing that's the part that's so
like frustrating it's like a conversation happening about this she didn't want rayner
to die and she had reasoning from her own personal feelings of whatever nostalgic feelings
but also on like knowing vassaris wouldn't want renara to die mr family man
Mr. like dying moments of like you're gonna fucking gonna want
yeah honor each other love each other you've slowly killed me you know so um and it is
it's painful to watch it's an emotion it's it's a weirdly consistent emotional episode as
tense and taught as it is it's weirdly emotional because you know this is not what viceris wanted
like you know as an audience member what the truth is you know he did not want this and you
just knowing where he left off of like i think i did what i wanted which was unite my family
and everything's going to be fine and because of a misunderstanding yeah spoke to the wrong person
as i saw the wrong person in the dark yeah my one good eye his blind spot yeah it's because he
messed that up it's now going to cause a big war the pacifist is now i didn't know the ultimate
irony she's leaving this gaping war he's the peaceful peaceful peaceful peaceful
Yeah, it's painful to watch
And then there's all kinds of people
Want to strip that throne
You know, like Kristen's gone all like
Yeah, fucking she broke my heart
Finally, yeah
This whole performance now
Yeah, yeah, I'm loyal to you else
And you freaking for near, I got to do
Yeah, that's right, I'm bad, I'm bad all the time
You're gonna become queens
I'm always ready to kill
Yeah
She really damaged
Why did you bring my heart right?
Yeah, I know
Everything he does
You broke my heart from her
Like he ran off of me
completely defined his whole
existence since then the whole yeah
now his whole goal is just to back
the high tower regime
and to see Reneira suffer as much as
possible yeah
yeah well and again like it's
it's all it's it's so beautiful because it's
yeah it's you get steeped in all these
personal elements and angles and I love when
they're out in the city looking for
agon and you have these
two pairs you're watching as Sir Eric and his
brother you know conduct
one way and you're watching as two people
who we don't know as personally are processing the sort of debate that this represents.
And then you have two people who are, like, totally on the inside of the debate in Amund and Kristen,
who are looking for Agon.
And the way that that whole convergence comes and watching as Agon is, like, dragged back to King's Landing
and, you know, forced to do this.
And part way through, you know, like the dagger has, I believe, the prophecy on it.
But part of me was like, I don't know, I feel like maybe he'll just.
just kill himself or something like that
because he's really not into
this but then you also watch that turn
as he finally sees his
court and all the people and everyone
begins to applaud him and you can see how
it's that fascinating
I can't remember exactly what the line
was but something about
not being grateful because of these
things that are sort of just like made available
to you when other people have to work for them
and so as much of a depraved
sort of amoral characters we know
A gone to be I'm fascinated to see where
this will take him, because if there's one thing that's made him
sort of fascinating to me, it's that
he doesn't seem to care, and he
actively seems to reject the throne.
And so now that he's got it,
and now that he's got this taste of
power and
this, just this taste of, you know,
getting the sense for how
much he lords over,
I am terrified
to see what that character becomes.
And then also what that does to Amund,
because, I mean, part of me
was like, yeah, this is, that's that other
thing of like he's clearly capable and wants to do it so why not why did the rules dictate
that it can only be echoed yeah uh yeah and it's all these yeah like there's so many great
elements of here's how our system works and here's how we need to uphold it but also here are all
the little personal aspects that you know gum up the gears and everything and yeah the the
machinations are wild and it's fascinating to me the way that they're able to balance those
two out because you always feel
the huge stakes, but you always
feel the very small micro-personal
stakes kind of always percolating
between the two in every given
moment. Well, you
even have now
it always seemed like there was some type
of loyalist relationship with
Otto and Allison.
Like, oh, it's them going toe to toe
now. Now they're skeeving
against each other. She's tired of being a pawn.
And she's going to
like on the pervert's name.
Oh, Larris.
Yeah.
And Lars, it's like
Laris was what Otto was doing, you know?
And now Otto's like out now.
He's drunk on his own power.
But he was always like,
I'm just a little coy about everything.
I don't, hmm.
Oh, I mean, I could kill, I don't want to kill the white worm,
but I could if you wanted him.
Yeah.
Your dad, he's really helpful to your dad.
yeah he was just assassinating everyone and Lars is uh he he's he's just he really is repulsive
he is very repulsive character yeah and um these like weird sexual exchanges that he has with the queen
uh or like these voyeuristic sexual exchanges is so just nasty and he said like i wouldn't want him to meet the actor
like just the actor if i saw him i'd be like oh my god it's that guy from the house of the dragon
And I'm going to say hi.
I'm like, no, I don't want to say out of the guy.
Let's take a different route.
Let's leave the store.
I will not be able to see past who he plays.
He could be like, hi, my name is.
How do you doing?
I'm Ken Walters and I play Larson.
It was a real hard character to get into.
And mastering that accent on the show, very difficult.
But I think I nailed it with my voice acting coach.
Oh, yeah.
Those are a nice pair of sandals you've got on.
You seem like you keep your feet real well trimming.
I would not be able to see past the reaction.
plays.
Oh, no.
Yeah, this, you know that he's got more, more pawns up his sleeve.
He's just playing.
Now, he plays a slow slithering chess game and then, you know, hundreds of
years and now they've got like a little finger.
There's always, there's just, it's, you're just kind of watching this generational cycle
of like, this one wants to throw him.
This one is little skeeving guy who serves the hierarchy.
This one is, I don't want a part of it, but I'm going to be a big part of it.
You know, and everyone's got their own little archetypes here.
Yeah, and who among the people who can't have the throne but really, really want it will get closest and whisper the most poison into whoever's ear.
Yes, so this was a fascinating tale, and I thought Rainis was a freaking awesome.
After everything she's been through, I thought that was such a cathartic moment.
So gratifying.
Yeah, it was very, very gratifying.
I should just set them aflames.
But, like, out of every, like,
out of an episode that's like,
it keeps you so curled up in tension,
it is, like, such a reward.
Oh, no, but, yeah, I'm definitely,
for clarification purposes.
And I mean, it from the bottom of my heart,
especially when you could see that this was all wrong.
It's all wrong.
The whole team, tapestry is wrong.
Team black all the way.
I mean, I don't, you know,
I like, I like, actually,
I shouldn't mention YouTube.
who's subsensitive about some words,
but there's the C-K,
which is a C-H word
that Allison drops
and talking about, like,
your husband was that.
And I was like, oh, it's nice to hear that
you used in an actual definition.
Oh, got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And hold.
Yeah, C-word.
Yeah, yeah, gotcha.
Nice definition word. So, yeah, it's like, I know
there were some of course
deception and certain of lies
amongst that but
what stands true is
she's the one
who's supposed to inherit the throne
bottom line
she's the one
and this was all the seafull
so yeah 100% team black
on this whole situation
can I be team Reneese
can I just go there
I'm pretty sure she's gonna go team black
yeah that's probably true
but that's what makes a cool character
out of her is the fact that like
even though she has been wronged
on all fronts by everyone
it's like the end of the day
the honorable thing
well yeah and the
go with the person who the target of a real air of a heavy piece of dishonoring right now
is probably going to be the enemy of my enemy who will now be my friend yeah yeah it's great
writing great writing overall i'm sure it's a wonderful book someday it'll get to it after the kind
thing i'm like it's so much more fun i feel like it's not it wouldn't be i'm sure it's sure it's
really fun and engrossing as it shows for people who have read the book and like the
way they talk so enthusiastically and get so emotional about it with the back to feeling of
like you don't even know what's coming man yeah yeah yeah you're ready every time your mind is
blown there's a game of fans game of thrones fan around the corner waiting to go no just you wait
yeah and just you wait so my i like being here run like i have no clue and i love that
i can only surmise with the information that's been given to me and i just love watching the
trajectory of these characters i think every performer here is so well so well layered and
um yeah i feel like auto is the real bad guy this whole thing
more than all them i feel like auto high tower is the real villain
well yeah i mean he's this he seems to have the best blend of he's very smart
very cunning he's able to put up face and you know do he's able to do the court stuff
and and do the presentable ceremonial stuff and then he's able to do the really ugly down
and dirty stuff well i mean he's not yeah he did all the seeful shit and he's not
indulgent usually like he got so intense and you felt that taking clock by him that that race against
the clock that was all you feel that just with auto high tower um like he's on the street
this guy is this guy is right now he's like we're on crunch time right now we only have a few short
hours to solidify our master because once we announce that he's dead we got we got to we got
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