The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: MS MARVEL Episode 1 "Generation Why" Review!!

Episode Date: June 8, 2022

KAMALA KHAN ENTERS THE MCU! Been a few months since our Ms Marvel Trailer Reaction, now We react to & review Ms Marvel Ep 1 Today featuring Iman Vellani, a whole bunch of Easter Eggs from Avengers Con, new powers, & so much more! REACTION HIGHLIGHTS on YouTube & FULL LENGTH (Sync-Up) WATCH ALONGS at Patreon.com/TheReelRejects!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Finance and buy your car at your convenience. On Carvana. Financing subject to credit approval, additional terms and conditions may apply. all right hey look we got fancy dancing mics we're not going to talk for too long though that's what i always say yeah that we won't talk for too long he's always wrong we talk for too long isn't that right coy anyway i was really charmed by this a lot i think uh it goes without saying that the visual style i mean it's obviously very it's kind of felt like a splice of what was that haley steinfeld movie edge of 17 true great uh edge of 7

17. And Scott Pilgrim versus the world. A little bit of both. But I also did like how committed they were to the cultural influence. What is their exact background? Pakistani. She's Pakistani, but she's the first Muslim superhero, like to headline of a comic ever. Or early, one of the big two. Like, I'm not Pakistan. Some people think I'm from, some people think on Pakistani or Indian or Mexican or all kinds of. Anything but Irish. Anything but Irish is what I get growing up Filipino in California you're surrounded by a lot of like cultural clashes of wanting to express yourselves and you know and go do your own thing have your own freedom but then you could feel like kind of the oppressive very disciplined you have to live by the

parents uh rules because you know it's a lot of i'm like a lot of us out here like first generation you know with the kamala con situation so i really identified with that aspect there are other qualities i'm sure that you can probably identify with and coy is just the biggest fan of us all. It's great guy. One of my favorite new characters. Of course, the superhero fantasy side of being obsessed, I'm sure he can identify with. So I think there's, there's quality, because before this, before watching this, sometimes

you're like, it's only just for kids, just for little kids. And I don't know. I thought this was actually really charming. I didn't find it hilarious. And I wasn't like swept up in wonder. Yet I was very, very charmed throughout. And there's a lot I really appreciate. I think it's so composed.

Every shot seemed like it was so purposeful. Like, it seemed like there was a real shot list to the way this was executed, that it did have me curiously. What was the prep like beforehand? Because they must have had to storyboard this out like crazy. Whereas the other ones, I'm sure you have a shot list, but maybe not a storyboarded. But this felt like it had to be just with the amount of integration they had. But, uh, and the other main thing, too, is, uh, this Eman Villani actress. Holy shit.

She's going to be able to keep up with everybody. She was fantastic. she is so good she's so it feels like i'm watching like a real kid uh one of those real nerdy kids out here you know you know marvel can pull off visuals they can pull off aesthetic they can pull off a fun tone and whatever but to capture the essence of this character was the most impressed i was was with her performance i couldn't every everyone's good everyone's so natural but her especially was like you seem so real i kept getting that's the thing that i was getting swept up in the most was how real she's seen. Now it's time to see like the real dramatic

half scenes. Can she cry on camera? That's the mark of a good actor. It's all it really takes. Cry. Quai, I know you're going to like hog the mic. So just hold on for a second. John, get in there. What did you identify with? What did you think? Point out something different that I didn't point out. Go for it, John. I really loved this first taste of the show, partly because it felt like I, some of the shows feel more like you're watching an episode of something or like a show and this felt like I just watched a piece of a movie. It was really, really gracefully composed and they have a lot of setup to do and you're in a familiar world, but I thought that they really, really did a nice job of establishing a

tangible and a cultural tone that feels very alive. Like Imman Villani anchors everything with just that incredibly natural charisma, but even beyond that, just the way in which they realized New Jersey and the convention and just the time in place of everything felt like a great convergence of some indie movie with the Marvel cinematic universe flavors. And I love, love, loved the way they composed everything from the visuals to the music, but really just that, you know, that look and that aura. Like, it's got great color and it's got really beautiful, striking, again, composed shots that really feel, like you said, intentional. I feel like especially now we're at a point where people are sort of

expecting Marvel to upgrade and be more expressive with their visual palette and their emotional palette. And I think that this speaks to that, whereas certain other things have maybe, you know, struggled. I felt like this was really colorful and really beautiful. And it uses that Scott Pilgrim style animated, you know, heightened world to great effect without making me sit here and go, you just got a pilgrim, you know, so, so yeah, I really love it. And hey, you know, yeah, white guy, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But I totally related to Kamala Khan and just the situation she's in. Even though it's not my exact experience, I really, really felt for her experience.

And I did feel for, you know, the aspects of that that are universal while also appreciating the aspects that are very specific to the Pakistani culture and everything else that comes with that. And I just can't wait to see the whole thing expand. All right, Coy What we're missing here, though, is This isn't big enough, you know? How does this tie into the multiverse In Avengers Secret Wars? Talk only about that, Coy.

Kang and Galactus and Dr. Doom, how are they all foreshadowed? Well, this go card time to Guardians 3. How do so many people know all the guardians that well on Earth to have that much merch about that? The whole thing about comic books is that you can have a contained story that feels big and a big story that feels small screw that coy and the thing you're not talking about

the only bigger coin big is that she's cosmic but arguably one of the most contained to herself characters in the mcc you well now she's in the marvels universe the reason i love spider man is because you always feel like he's a guy that's just trying to get by spider man is always late for work he's always trying to make sure he can undo a messed up date with mj he's always trying to make sure that he does the right thing when he feels like He's the wrong guy, and he always uses comedy as a defense mechanism. Spider-Man is invented in the 60s. Spider-Man has been around for a very long time. It has gotten to the point where it's very hard to retell some of his stories.

And there are long periods of time where Spider-Man comics are not great because he's been around for so long. What I loved is that when we got Kamala Khan in 20, I think she was in an issue or two of Captain Marvel in 2013. Her title started in 2014. So we've had her for eight years. What I love, I don't know. Google it. I don't, I think you're way off, but I'm clearly the set of these.

I'm not going to embarrass you on camera. So what I love is that when we got this character, it reminded me of what it was first like to discover Peter Parker, Spider-Man. It's someone who is in high school dealing with day-to-day problems in extraordinary ways. It's someone, like everyone has a high school experience. So we can identify with that experience even as, you know, older dudes. But we also can learn from this character. And I love the weird, awkward moments of high school conversation, juxtaposing the moments of pure cosmic power. I love that as a dude, especially a white dude from Boston, I have very little exposure

to Pakistani tradition or to Pakistani food or Muslim culture. And I think that you can make any comic book educational in a fun way to either treat you about relationships, morality, your worldview, or specifically cultures. And what I got out of Miss Marvel, and the reason I think the show is doing such a good job is it makes you go, hey, I get seven-tenths of these things. I would like to learn more about the three-tenths. I don't, without it, feeling. like you're an other you're not othering a thing you're not an outsider you go oh this all makes sense please teach me this and i think as americans that's something we other very quickly and i think it's really problematic how much we like to go hey what if we do this thing that feels normal all the

time and don't let things progress or learn and this character it kind of makes you learn and i really love that the show is giving us a lot of things that feel familiar while planting seeds to have us grow with the character and that's what i got out of the comic book so i love that she has a small town like Spider-Man that also has a big town like Jersey City. I love that she has the circle queue like Peter has the Daily Bugle. I love that her family feels like Peter's MJ, Harry, Gwen. I love that her family has the moral compass of an Uncle Ben and Aunt May, but she has this net of comfort while also having the struggle of being a teenager while also being someone that doesn't look like everyone else that's just like everyone else. And then I think it's

going to be so important for kids nationwide and internationally to feel seen for the first time, while also informing dumb white dudes that, like, you know, people are people. So I think the show is doing all the things I love about the comics, and it's doing it in a stylized way that makes it unique, and I love that. What I'm really hoping. Yeah, like,

where's that? When are we going to get off of Earth? Is not Rambo going to show up in this? Also, G. Willa Wilson is the writer who brought her solo title. So she'd been introduced, but the first solo book, which they used a cover of in there, I love the Mr. Wilson nod there

And I really love that they planted some of that art From that first run And again, Terry Dotson, one of my favorite artists Is the background piece in her room That made me happy. What I'm waiting for him is I'm really happy for you, Coy I'm sure every most Marvel readers happy about it too Everyone listening right now is like, I'm still listening

Congratulations, Coy It's for me. You want it. Clearly this show is for me. What I am hoping for that I think the show will eventually go down that route Is this episode captured And I imagine the rest of the series

will be, you know, Kamala Khan's perspective. And so with capturing her at this specific point in her journey, you know, she's feeling that a bit of, like feeling oppressed, and a lot of it is cultural clashes. I feel like they're planting seeds where it feels like a true celebration of Pakistani culture as well. Because I could see that there could be a different argument to be made with some of the semi-generic stuff. Because I don't feel like the execution feels generic. I think there's a lot of great nuance to it. That's some said, the 70-30.

I think, I guess I will feel at the end of the show. I think you have to start 90-10. Yeah, no. And then you grow it, you know what I mean? Start at the part where she feels like the oppressed side and can't be herself and is having a clash with a culture and family and, you know, with all that jazz. And then by the time you get there, because like I liked the, I don't know how it is in the comics, and I'm curious to hear what you think, because I know they changed the power set here. To have the band be part of her family legacy that gives her the powers, like everything she wanted is coming through something that she, that is generational. And I think that in and of itself is honoring a part, even though it's sci-fi and shit, is honoring a part.

of the Pakistani culture. I imagine it will eventually lead down that road. So I'm excited to see how it goes there where it embraces it all, you know? And I'm imagining that it'll go down a path for her parents. I don't know if her parents will find her her true identity. I don't know the path that's headed down.

I know the feeling. I feel like her mom has some knowledge there. Yeah, no, she, they alluded to that, that she's like, don't touch those bands, you know? And as much as we love her so far, like Abu is nailing it. Like, he's so the character in the comics. Like, we love the brother as, you know, limited screen time.

It does a lot. but I will say my only negative is too early to really quantify. I love that she's an inhuman, and I love that some of the body dysmorphia that comes with being a teenager is kind of representing the powers. The terrigan mists is not in. The terrigan mists, I assume we're not here. But when you talk about the generational influence,

I would have had, like, you know, the inhuman element be part of, like, maybe her ancestry. And maybe she is an inhuman that this activates the gene instead of the terrigan mist. I don't think they're touching the inhumans. I don't think they're going to mess with it. I thought maybe after Dr. Strange, spoilers for Dr. Strange, you've seen it two months ago, and Black Bolt,

I thought, like, maybe they were going to slowly reintroduce the Inhumans by way of, like, you know, that little taste, that touch of that, it would be unlikely now that we've seen how the power manifests, and it does kind of remind me more of, like, you know, some of the more cosmic characters, there are quantum bands, there are certain bands from the 70s that, not music

bands, uh, that tie into power sets. You guys chart in the 60s? You guys start in the 60s? Clearly a rip. But like, so I'm curious if those things are generational, if those things are cultural, or if there's going to be anything that makes her unique on top of the band that like the band has to coincide with blankety blank because i do think it's really important

that the terrigan miss activate something in her and then again the body dysmorphia like her being an insecure teenager and then her having like crazy like physical like almost kronenbergian scary attributes you don't get that as much with shiny object you don't get that as much with like oh sparkle cosmic so i think there needs to be some of that somehow but it hasn't bothered me enough that it's an overall negative i know people are going to be uproarious but for me it is my negative but i'm not closing my mind to it i'm optimistic that the reason they did it is to be seen. And the cost of trying to make stretchy hands look good

is prohibitive. That's why John Krasinski had 45 minutes of screen time. Clearly off camera for a lot of it. John, I'm curious, as someone who's not said devotee of comics, how do you feel about the power set here without having this pre-existing, like, love and meaning, but now just introduced fresh thoughts. My thought, I have a thought.

I see if this review is second and not. Guiding. Yeah. I mean, much like Koi, I'm curious about the power set, and it's an idea. Like, it's a shift in idea, and so now I'm sitting here going, okay, it's up to them to make something interesting out of that. I think they can. I, you know, I mean, I wasn't expecting her just to have a full-on, like, power blast at the,

you know, in a very public setting in this episode. So if anything moved, maybe a tad quick because of the change. To me, it felt like that. I mean, I'm finishing up Agents of Shield, so that's, like, prime. This is my moment to sit here and go, canonize that, you coward, so that you can use Terrigin, because that's such a huge part of that show. I can imagine that maybe, especially if we do get more across cosmic,

universal, multiversal shenanigans factoring in here, that maybe that will tie into why her power is the way it is. but my hope is that it's got something to do with the origin of that bangle and that maybe there is something akin to like the ancestral plane or something like that maybe could explain it or something that again ties back into culture because one other thing that struck me about this is I was reminded of Shangchi in the early moments

where they're at home and you're seeing home life and you're just seeing that side of the culture and then, you know, obviously the McGuffin is also tied into that in some way But in Shang Chi, obviously, you leave home and you don't really come back, and you're mostly doing, like, cosmic crazy stuff. So I feel like here you've got an opportunity to maintain the home life across it, but also tie that into the origin of the bangle, whatever her mom might know, and maybe make something meaningful and character-driven for that. So while I am bummed to lose that metaphor of, like, yeah, this is a physical change happening to my body that also factors into just how I feel about myself. I could see them making it something meaningful, and I hope that's what they do rather than just being like, it's a cool. Cool Cosmic McGuffin.

The end. Can I have one last thought? Was that okay? You are on the thinnest of ice. Let me, um... Let me test. Shall I run a bite first? You know, you know what?

Coil, yeah. Yeah, you can have your thought. Okay, thank you for permission. I appreciate it. One thing I've interested in is in the comic. She's one of the champions, which is a modern reinterpretation of a more street-level team. And it's really politically charged right now in the comic books.

The Champions comic is more about global warming and people's rights and refugees. It's a lot more topical than maybe the event. because currently the Avengers are living in a Celestial's head and they're fighting vampire. So it's not exactly like linear. So what I think the champions do is they allow us as readers to have a team that feels like it's fighting for what we might experience in real life while the Avengers do their cosmic stuff. But what's interesting is Kamala is always going to feel street levels. She represents Jersey City.

She represents all those things. What's interesting in the comics now is they've already had the Civil War thing happen like a decade ago in the comics. We had the Civil War happened about a decade ago in the movies now. What happens legally in the comic books is when the Civil War, which is called the Scovia Accords in the movies. When that doesn't pass, when the Scovia Accords fail in the comic books, years later, those same lawyers and the same, like, bad guys, try to pass it by way of having people

under 18 not have the rights to be superheroes. Basically, they make it, like, child labor laws, effectively. And they call it Kamala's law, because Kamala gets really, really injured, and she's in a coma, so she doesn't have the ability to fight for herself. So people are using her name against her very friends. People are using her name to persecute people she cares about. The fact that the cop that was trying to get Spider-Man to mess up is now in this and the fact that we're getting a lawyer show right after this and the fact that Daredevil is supposedly in everything for a while. I do think we're going to see some interesting follow-ups to Civil War and legal ramifications in this show that set up certain things in the future like the Young Avengers, which I think is going to be this universe's champions parallel.

Maybe. Read comics. I don't think any of that was necessary. Why am I even here? You took the words right out of my mouth, Coy. Greg's going to cut it. Save for another sandwich. My God, Coy.

This is in love with the sound. Do you do your homework, Coy? I want this trending. I want this video trending. You're like, aren't we supposed to turn in the assignment? I'm really proud of the assignment. You said we were going to have a quiz this week. It's Friday.

Where's the quiz? I thought we have a quiz. It's because he's trying to get me to fight Eric Voss every premiere. If I have one genuine criticism about this show is I, I, I, uh, where's the mob, we're in Jersey. No. Uh, fuck, I took him out. Yeah, what the hell?

Where's DJ Polly D? Track suit bros get taken out. I hope there's actual consequences for when she does crazy shit. I mean, they did set up the thing with the cops still felt like a quirky setup. I think it's going to be a rib. I think that's going to be consequences. I think that's going to be the undercurrent. It needs to feel truly consequent because even the stakes in the moment was just like,

oh my God, all these people in danger, bud. No one really feels like they're in danger. Popular girl got smacked up. Like, she rolled me all near to her face. It's just like, yeah, it's fine. No, but I'm saying, like, that might have killed her. I could, I could foresee that becoming a thing where it's like, man, this footage is circulating. And she attacked the thing, but I feel like popular girl is going to come back and be like, no, she saved my life.

And then that'll, that'll be a thing. Yeah. It's not a heavy criticism. It's just more of a curiosity. I'd like to be a commentary in the police state and, like, the overwatch of cameras and how we have big brother that we implement ourselves through social media. That's what I want to see. In Miss Marvel. Lymical, fun, teen street-level fantasy.

I'd like to talk about the fact that Ringlights account for more surveillance than George O'L. Ever predicted. I want to do... I want a story about, you know, cell phone addiction and pornography addiction and Miss Marvel. I don't. That's what I think. Yeah, let's just do shame. How are...

How are... Michael Fastbender comes back as back in the... Our teenagers are in high school, probably watching just graphic imagery on their phone. being consumed and being falsely diagnosed with ADHD. That's what I want to see in Miss Marvel, guys. Yes, take on the pharmaceutical industrial complex. Yeah, over-prescribing things. Right, man.

We're going to go there. They don't want us. That's why they stamp down supplements and vitamins. They don't want us to prevent disease. They just want to keep us on the hook. And then when they arrest Kamala Khan, we tell you what's political policing issues of the industrial complex that is churning out profits in the prison system. Yeah, see, there's a lot you can.

do with mess marvel and i feel like they are only scratching the surface right now guys just getting started gregg we're just getting started hey kids there's a lot to learn see we could have ended this and now now look what's happening thanks for watching guys leave a like and comment camera is currently out of commission we gotta get this damn video up but i wanted to shout out michael b today michael b Should have a reaction up as well for this Miss Marvel thing. And this guy's been doing such a good job lately. He deserves to be proper shouted out because he's so good at what he does.

So if you thought two white guys reacting to Miss Marvel wasn't enough, get a third whitey in there before you hop to blind wave to get four white more people in there. All the crack. Go to OmniMedia first. Michael B. Michael Baby, B is what we like to call him around here. Baby best. And he's become a really great friend of mine as well.

I'm really happy to know you, bud. Sometimes you text me too much. And then I get all upset when you stop texting me. And I'm like, what the hell? I just like to be wanted. So, dude, we got to keep this toxic relationship going. It's what's making us thrive. And before you get all in your head, no, I don't actually think you text me too much.

But sometimes you text a little too much. Again, I'm only joking. you don't text me that much that is a sarcastic comment but seriously you gotta get your shit together you don't have any other friends I'm kidding I'm not kidding but I am