The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: Obi Wan Kenobi PART II Breakdown & Review!

Episode Date: June 1, 2022

Thanks to @Headspace & @Disney for Sponsoring! Head over to headspace.com/starwars to start your free trial & #FindYourForce today! Obi-Wan Kenobi Part 2 Reaction & Review featuring our good friend & resident Star Wars expert, Ace Cabrera (aka SquadLeaderAce) joining us to discuss Ewan McGregor, Anakin Skywalker, Kumail Nanjiani, the Grand Inquisitor, The inquisitors, the fifth brother, Reva, Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, easter eggs, hidden details, & more! REACTION HIGHLIGHTS on YouTube & FULL LENGTH (Sync-Up) WATCH ALONGS at Patreon.com/TheReelRejects!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How's it going, Reject Nation? John here, wanted to welcome you to part two of Obi-Wan, our review, reaction, recap, breakdown, et cetera, series. We're calling these Reject Recap for now. Maybe that'll change, who knows. But anyhow, Ace Cabrera joining us again. Once again, he will be here, hopefully, for the duration of the series, and for a lot of our Star Wars content moving forward. He is very knowledgeable in the galaxy far, far away, a champ of the Star Wars Shmodown, inner geekdom, and a all-around good dude. Squad leader, squad leader ace. I believe, is the handle. Go follow him wherever social medias are sold. Anyhow, if you want to catch our reaction highlights along with this review, you can go to our YouTube channel. And if you want to sync up with your own copy and watch the full-length experience with us, come on over to patreon.com slash the Rio Rejects.

But for right now, if you're here, really appreciate you supporting us in audio form. It's a new frontier for us, but it's also going to be, I hope, fun, and expansive ones. So anyhow, that's enough babbling from me. We'll be one, part two. Here we go. God, that is making a lot of tuning for next week. Menacing. Yeah.

Menacing. Dude, Ewan McGregor is perfect. Perfect. Mm-hmm. Dang. Can't believe the Grand Inquisitor is permanently dead? I was going to say, if you listen hard enough. Bring them back for rebels.

You can hear the fans freaking out. To die again. I just started rebels, he does. What are you guys talking about? It's the first season. Flee! We! Justice for flea!

Justice for flee! He's gone. Get him a robot hand, I hope, assume. I think it's his face, man. They cut his face off. Yeah. I know, he was his hips were a little forward. One of the Inquisitors just has a necklace made of severed members.

Wow. Yeah. Oh, I get it, because he's in that heavy makeup. It's cool. It's cool, they put them in the actual makeup. Yeah. Eventually, Darth Vader's going to gain a bunch of weight. I want to see the series about that.

The Seen and Return of the Jedi. Natalie Holt is the composer. We should give credit to Natalie Holt. Did she do Shire? Yeah, I think. Oh, I think so. Good memory on you. She's great. did she do Chernobyl too

or is that a different composer who is also not sure if only we could access I am mystery dude lost the ages

I felt like the Loki score was definitely my favorite though yeah your favorite Star Wars score is the Loki score yeah man of the Marvel shows that was a really great episode

let's talk about it man yeah let's do it Alright, we're miced up. We're miced up. We're professional. So we're going to be talking about this. I'm excited to get your thoughts. I'm half excited to get your thoughts. You know, you can hear my thoughts anytime.

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You guys want to work with us? That's crazy. Yeah. Ace, why don't you kick it off, man? What's the first thing you want? We'll kind of like combine a little, maybe, kind of bleeding over from episode one. Not, not a fan of menace, you know, episode one of this.

But, yeah, I mean, we could do both. We could do fan of minutes. Why not? Why don't we review all the prequels and then go into this? Let's see the whole thing. It's a big package. Yeah, I mean, what are you thinking of, what are you thinking of the show so far?

I'm really digging it, man. I mean, to me, it's trying to set everything up for one story. And I kind of, I mean, obviously, we talked about the bait and switch back in episode one with the whole layer thing, but I like that being the initiating point or the start-up point to kind of take us, yeah, to kind of take us where- I love your reaction to that. Yeah, hold it closer, please. That's a great idea.

Thanks. I like that being the, starting point to where we're headed, which is eventually a confrontation with Vader, obviously between Obi-1 and Vader, him finding out that Anakin is alive and Anakin is Vader, they're all together in one, and that this is all a setup for him to be, you know, confronted with that failure. So I like where we're going. There's obviously some things that I'm a little, you know, questioning, eyebrow raising. Like what?

I feel like I'm not sure about Reva. I mean, to me, it's more like... The character or the actor? It's not even... I think it's the character. Because to me, it's more like... We get a little bit of backstory, as far as I hint at a backstory, with the Grand Inquisitor telling her that she belongs somewhere else.

So there's hints at, you know, a potential connection between her and the... die and something like that. But to me, the final scene with her killing the Grand Inquisitor, even though we know, obviously, that he's in Rebels, and then her saying that Anakin is alive and he's Vader kind of, I don't want to say rub me the wrong way, but kind of made me go, huh? Because I did for me too. Because to me, it's always been, it's not necessarily like everyone in the Empire knows. Like, oh, that was Anakin. That was, that was, he used to be Anakin back in the day.

Like, people don't. You guys know each other. You were his buddy. Look at him now. He's Vader. He's bossing us around. Friggin, freaking, freaking Vader. Can you talk to him for us? But it's not a well-known thing. You're not supposed to know that. Like, that's supposed to be like a Luke, Obi-1 kind of thing for, for inner circle. Yeah. Friends and family, we call that. It's a little club of people who know. But maybe I'm wrong. I mean, from my knowledge, I don't feel like that's supposed to...

Anakin is dead. Like, he's dead to everyone in the galaxy. And Vader is a completely different person. Well, I mean, I think what they're also doing is sort of transitioning Anakin... I mean, though it's been 10 years, right? 10 years? Yes. That they're still transitioning Anakin into full-blown Darth Vader

because Riva specifically cites that she's looking... that Vader's been looking for him. So I imagine that maybe Vader or Anakin is still there. You know, because by the time you meet him in episode four and stuff, he's like, he's just full-blown Vader. He's not Anakin anymore. So I imagine that he's probably wants a little bit of revenge for what's happened to him and, you know, his kids,

they probably blame, I don't know exactly what his motives are, but to bring Hayden Christians in back and not just a guy in a suit to get James Earl Jones to be imposing Vader I feel like there's got to be some type of emotional grudge that he holds against him

and so I think there's still a bit of a transition but I don't know why he would open up to Riva or whatever or something or who Riva really is honestly there are times where they're acting that I don't fully buy it's really when she's getting like

hyper aggressive or yelling that I'm like it just doesn't I just don't sound believable to me. The thing that makes you the most uncomfortable too, honestly, is sliding someone's acting. I feel so, because

acting is such a vulnerable thing and you've got all these people looking at you and watching you when you're filming and you're putting yourself out there. So I actually get really uncomfortable saying that. I have a hard time believing her in not every scene. There are some scenes I think she does a really

great job, but there's also quite a bit where I'm like, I don't really buy you. So that's my weirdest issue with Riva. I think with Grand Inquisitor, what you were touching on, that's something I think should have been earned. That moment should have been earned in like a later episode. Not that I want to just start talking about negatives, because there's a lot I love about this.

There's so much I love about this. But yeah, with the Grand Inquisitor, it's like, that's something that, a moment like that should have been built up better, as opposed to them, like, bickering, like, children for two episodes. Yeah. And then you do that. and it kind of is undercutting from the very first scene he had

she kind of just undercuts him and I get that's their dynamic but then to do like fake out death you know if you haven't seen rebels fake out death that something about that just didn't feel like earned in this moment it is more of like a hmm

well it makes you wish you could see you could see a little more from Reva's perspective if they're going to do that because I feel like in one breath it kind of builds up her menace and her ability, but I feel like if we maybe could see it doesn't build up the grand

but we don't, this is the Inquisitor for the first time for a lot of people. Yeah, so it's like Yeah, so it's like what is, what makes the Inquisitor grand? Yeah, he's just got an attitude. Speaches and his voice. He's just got the title and the title is the scary part. It's the way he speaks. Yeah,

if we could see into, and I know you don't have all the time to do all the things, but if we could see more into their friction and their dynamic and what really motivates the two of them yeah see the Grand Inquisitor and why he is to be feared the way he is and then get that I think it would work

it made me intrigued to see what I can only imagine it suggests to me that she and Anakin must have some kind of connection he must have entrusted her with this and so in that moment it didn't really vex me that she would give out that information because it seemed like okay there's a reason why the show has been so bold about you just not giving a single flip about anything the rest of your team is doing.

But yeah, I actually, I've quite enjoyed her performance from top to bottom, so I hope that that story keeps progressing in an interesting way because, yeah, I mean, right now, it's mostly just been plot. Like her parkour scenes. Oh, very cool. It's great. I love the sound design they use on them, too. Like, to always indicate she's using, like, force.

It kind of reminds you, like, the video games when you play as like a Jedi. Yeah, and so. The wishing sound. Yeah, yeah. It feels very much like a video game. And parts of her character, you play Jedi Fall in order, I'm assuming. Yeah. What is the, who's the villain in that?

Not the villain, but the sister in that. Yeah, Trilla. Trilla, yeah. There are parts, I don't think it's Trilla, who she's, obviously, she's not. But there are parts of her character that remind me and the position she plays of Trilla. Yeah. Very much so. So, yeah, I really like, like I said, it's not always, but there are some scenes that

kind of do rub me a little bit wrong with the thing that's really saving this show for me in every aspect not even saving that sounds like this show's bad and it that's being saved the thing I really love about this show like I thought this episode I liked more than episode two um but the thing I love most that that is most rewarding is something that I mean this was a big letdown for people with book of Boba Fett for example I think this is really the best thing about this show is Ewan McGregor. He is amazing here. And this whole thing with him getting in tune with the force, again, like so repressed. We talked a lot about it in the last review of just to reiterate a couple of those points of this man who's just so much in pain and so much guilt, so traumatized by

everything that's happening. He wears that pain so much. And he's, there's such a resistance to things. And he's cut himself off from the force so much. And it's like him slow, as he, it's, kind of like Obi-1 rising is what's happening here to the point where he can become like the Ben Kenobi, Alec McGinnis that you see in a new hope where he is in tune with the force. He can do the whole like, let us pass, you know,

the force wave thing. He can do all that. But it's, but like a good wandering nomad type of character, but not one who's just like damaged everywhere he walks. So I think that's been great. Thoughts? Thoughts, I feel like that's,

What's great about the show is the show's called Obi-1 Canobi, and thank God he's delivering every single time he's on the screen. And it's great because his character has so much there as far as his emotion, his connection to the force, his disconnect to the force, his feelings to galactic political issues, to the Jedi. Everything is there as far as the character of Obi-1. And I think that is like the biggest selling factor of the show. And it's so far, it's delivering in every single aspect. So to me, I can look past like a few little nitpicky stuff as far as like Inquisitor drama. And just really focus on this guy who if anyone has seen Clone Wars. I mean, obviously, if you see the prequels, I mean, you know who Obi-1 is.

And they even kind of hinted at a day. I kind of like that little line. And I was talking over it a little bit, sorry. But it was when the Grand Inquisitor said, like, you know, this is Obi-1. So, like, be on, be ready or be on your feet. Like, I forget he's exactly what he said, but he said, like, this guy's different. The fiercest Jedi in the galaxy, man. Like, this isn't the Safdi, brother, Jedi.

This is, like, one of the greatest Jedi's ever. Like, this guy's, like, top three, top four. Right up there with Mace and Yoda. And they even said it in episode one with that setup as far as Anakin recall. calling his line in attack of the clones when he said he's as powerful as Master Mace and as wise as Master Yoda. And the prequels alone, he beats Anakin and he beats North Mall. He cooks him. He cooks General Grevis.

He cooks General Greaves. He kicks his ass. Obi-1's like a badass, like a straight-up badass. Like in the Clone Wars, he fights off Mandalions. He fights off Mal and Savage. And I appreciate, like I watch the movie. I like this like 90s action movie thing of a guy who's been out of the game forced to get back good. It has to protect little girl.

You know, like, it's such a, I know, I don't, a lot of, it's not even just a nice action thing. This is, it's a very common action storyline of a guy pulled back into the field that he's protecting a kid. You know, like, that's a very common action storyline. But what I really like is they are really earning or slowly building him being able to be full, full Jedi again or fully skilled. because you know a lot of movies it usually takes them like one fight scene to just be a little rusty than they're back in the game where here I'm like oh he is so rusty like he almost let lay a die he is wildly rusty that that shocked me definitely for sure because I mean again if you've seen anything as far as clone wars or even the prequels go he's his force abilities are like

hella strong like obi one's got like super powerful abilities and he he's like 20 pounds of layout and it's just like really man like come on come on bro put your back into it yeah that's true yeah yeah I mean I appreciate it a lot

yeah what do you think about the direction Johnny I've liked the direction quite a bit I mean it's um I think it's got a really really locked in sense of style and it's got a smooth I mean you mentioned in the last one it kind of oscillating between movie and TV show

kind of feel and I thought this one felt more unified as a movie. More cinematic, generally. And I think, like, I really like what Deborah Chow's been doing overall behind the camera. Like, I think, I mean, one of my favorite aspects of all of these expansions is often that tone, that ineffable Star Wars tone that is bolstered by so many things like music and visual motifs and, you know, beloved characters, animatronics, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, to go into this and to have a die you, another place that's new-ish and, you know, can bring some, aesthetics that evokes some other things. Like it's fun to look at these things and not only have all the Easter eggs, but also be able to look at other movies and say, okay, there's a little bit of Sin City here, there's a little bit of Blade Runner here. And like you said,

even like the classic kind of, it's like Obi-1, the professional. You know? And yeah, I'm curious to see how it builds and increases momentum because I feel like right now it is a very plot-oriented show. Like there's some really nice emotional beats

and I just want to walk around more in that stuff because when they're balancing, and this is credit to the direction, like there are times when it's balancing an action scene with just emotive acting from Ewan McGregor, and both are just as potent. And I would love for the rest of the writing

to kind of encompass that dynamic, because I feel like it's really there in the direction. I'm trying to figure out what the definitive tone of the show is. Because it's like they feel so different these two episodes, but they're so tethered at the same time. It's like so serial. Whereas, like, Mandalorian seem to, like, nail its tone right away.

Like, you know that you can literally just cue that song, that flute. And you're like, that's the tone of the Mandalorian right there. That's the mandolian. Whereas, like, the tone here, I'm like, what is the exact tone and the definitive pace of this show? Because there are some things I love. I love the direction with, like, the way they handle the lightsaber. Like, you've pointed out, there's such a menace to it. I think, I think, like, the show is,

yet to approach yeah i'm going over that word is yet to get to the point of what the trailers elicited for me like the trailers elicited such like a like a cinematic

freaking introspective tone poem heavy um like you're really gonna open up this character and feel this transformation yeah yeah and it doesn't quite reached that yet for me. It still seems like it's a bit at odds with being that show and

fun. It, it, I feel like it, in a lot of ways, looks and paces and behaves like that, but I want it to speak like that. Right. I feel like in the writing, they could do more character for the amount of plot. Like, it does feel for as cinematic as aspects of it are very kind of straightforward in a sense, in a way that I'm a little surprised by, I guess. Ace. Well, I mean, I just think it's early. I just think it's a little, it's a little, it's a little, it's a little, it's a little early. It's been 90 minutes ace. We are a third of the way through this. This is act one. It's two episodes down. We got a lot of time. We got a, we got a lot of episodes. I feel like we can reach that by the time we get to the final episodes. And I think once we get more Hayden Christensen in there will be a whole other level, perhaps that the show will go to. Yeah, I want to ask you guys, obviously, there's so much I want to ask you guys, just because I want to hear your perspectives. Obviously, we see that final scene with Obi-1, Awaking Anakin, as he says, Anakin, and he responds to it. I just think it's funny, he responds to it when, obviously, if you've seen rebels and if you see any other media, Darth Vader just basically killed Anakin in his brain.

Like, it's like a person he doesn't acknowledge. It's like a completely different person. And so the fact that he awoke as soon as Obi-1 called him out in the force, almost like calling to him was something that was interesting to me because to me it was like, oh, he's responding to his old name, which is Anakin. But Rebels was later. It is later. It's true.

But I feel like that's something that he took on pretty early on after Revenge of the Sith. But again, I'm not sure exactly how early on. But how do you feel about him being in the makeup and having hidden Christian action through that is that I think that's a gift for a performer I think that allows you to

like when you have all that makeup usually for an actor that that is a gift because it allows you to lean into that so I'm curious if he's just going to sound like eating Christensen he's got the Darth Vader breathing

you know like when he talks what's he going to sound like because you know I mean even in return of the Jedi when the mask is off he sounds different so it's not going to have James Earl Jones's voice. So I think it would probably

oscillate between the two when he is. But I'm excited for it. I feel like there's a lot to impact because I think what even what even McGregor is doing is something that is so much more emotionally stilted than I was expecting. Like he does

there's so much of just getting stopped in his tracks and contemplating with his eyes. Like when he learns that information about Anakin you know that it's just so such a mood right there, such, such a haunting moment. And it's like, it just makes you start the, my brain starts firing. And this feeds into what you're asking about. It starts firing with my God, like, what is he feeling in this moment? Like, it's got to be a combination of fear, guilt,

worry, and maybe there's hope a chance. He wants to reach out to me. Like there's so many layers to that reaction that that was this that's the shit about this show that I'm loving the most when they just let the camera sit and do its and let the actors in the world do its job because in that moment I was like that is some of the that's like brilliant acting because you got all kinds of conflicting emotions reading across his face it's not just like I got to fuck this guy up you know it's it's all these different emotions that you can see you and McGregor experiencing and also being triggered. So, yeah, I think, like, I'm excited to see, it's been a while, so you're having Christensen to see if you, McGregor's doing this good of a job, like, what are these two performers

going to do servicing each other in a scene is what I'm looking forward to most? How do you feel about it? No, I mean, I'm still, I'm still pumped. I'm just curious if we're going to see, you know, more of the makeup, more of him behind the mask, more maybe even a flashback, which has been rumored, but obviously nothing confirmed, or... If you get Jake Lloyd back. Yeah. D.H. Jake Lloyd. Oh, goodness gracious. Shrink.

That will do wonders for everyone. But I feel like, you know, you don't necessarily bring back Hayden if it is just to be you know, that brief moment that we saw him. I think we...

I was going to be a full character in that. Yeah, we definitely have to see more for sure. To me, kind of going back to to the tone of the show and kind of going back to what the show is accomplishing so far in this episode. I think Star Wars has always reached that both balance but also kind of disconnect when it comes to goofy and serious. And if you watch, and I can really pinpoint this as a mega, Mega, Mega Star Wars fan who's seen the movies too many times. Every single movie has a lot of super ridiculously goofy moments.

Even Empire Strikes Back, you guys can rewatch that one. And at the same time, has some really deep and dense and dark stuff. So I feel like so far, the show is doing a really good job of showing us the dark deepness with Obi-1 and then trying to goof it up a little bit with Kumil, with Leah doing a little, like, you know, running off on her own. I love Kumail. I thought Kumail was great. He was a wonderful. wonderful welcome edition.

I was half hoping it was a real Jedi too. That would be a funny take on a Jedi. And I'd be all on board. Piss a lot of people off. But I still be on board. How could this guy be that balanced if he's, yeah. But I like the gray of him too.

Like he's not, he's a con man. Sure. But at the same time, he's, you know, he's still got a heart. Like, he just wants a big money. But, you know, when it comes down on it, if he's got to do the right thing, he's going to do the right thing. So I thought it was a great performer. And I love like, even that moment.

I think Deborah Chow is like an actor's director, you know, you can see it in the most subtle moments of like when the, when the, when, when Reva reads his mind on where Obi-1 is and you just see this like shame come across Kumail's face of like, I was supposed to protect him. That was the whole purpose. And now I've done the exact opposite. I thought it was a really strong moment for Kumail Nanjiani. Leia is a cute little girl. A little adorable little brat. Precocious little one. The most precocious thing I've never seen.

I want to hear the song like, One way or another, I'm going to find you. He's just Obi-1 chasing after her. I'm going to get you, get you. Just like waddling around. Someone's going to make that super cut online. Because she waddles like the little girl, like it's like a cute little like penguin waddle. I don't know if you guys caught that.

But I was just like waddling. I was like, this is hysterical. There are times, though, where I could use a little bit of a tad bit more nuance with the writing of her. There are times where I do crave it, where

I'm like, she's this one solid note of this, of this portrayal of this girl. She's snapping at Obi-Wan. She's snappy, doesn't seem is wildly fearless. Yeah. Like, so to the point where I'm like, you can't be a real girl.

like this is your first time off Alderon you're in the slumps and the worst planet ever apparently and you're just like and it's like there are times I feel like there's there's not enough reactiveness towards out of you know

like things that are truly like if you're not feeling threatened at all it's hard for me to feel worried for you whatsoever but I feel like that the way they set up the planet to me and I think John was getting added too was really well done as far as showing all the creatures even even the side characters that had like two lines like that little girl who was like you want to buy spice

and and then she was like oh give up on the girl whatever like she felt kind of authentic i thought she was great yeah i think the world they built was great i mean like you don't you don't get worlds like that in the other live action shows a little bit of mandolory and it's what we crave from boba fat and you get some of you get these kind of worlds and like clone Wars and stuff, but to get it here, I think that's one of the, like, that's why I really like this one more than the other one, because this is actually like, oh, this is different. Yeah, and this is cool to see. Yeah. The creature effects were cool. We saw a lot of, you know, background characters that if you're, name them all, Lace, that's why you're here.

There was name one checklist, breakdown. Specifically, it's like very specific. No, but there was there's a character in there that I want to say it's called Wiazlia, but I might be wrong. No, I think I'm wrong. Moment of truth. Sound like a goddamn idiotic. But it's the one

where, I think it is Wiazliah from A New Hope, which is the many-eyed creature. And there's also... Oh yeah, I know to talk about it. Yeah, I know what's about. The one who bought the speeder off Luke Skywalker. But there was a lot

of cool like moments in there for like for like a new rock stars pause and frames like look at that creature Eric Boss knows he's all off the top of his hit if you pause right here at 22 seconds there was no research he never he knows that all of these videos are improv

shout out to new rock stars what a bossy the celebration right now yeah I you know it's a cool moment for Star Wars fans to see all those cool creatures and creature effects behind the scenes and I felt like the world building there. As I mentioned, that little girl was trying to sell Spice. I was joking around as far as the Death Sticks. I'm sorry.

It was a very serious moment with that little girl. She was like, Spice has killed her family. She was going from the guy who got excited to see the young ling slaughtered. Yeah, I know. Love it. And I was like, oh, this is the Destix moment. And I was like, no, it's not. I mean, I, there's a quality here that I'm

really appreciating which is something I've wanted to see explored a little bit more and I like that they're capturing it through the wonder of little Leah which is the droids are life they're alive and so much of the time they're just like disregarded but they're actual beings you know in this in the Star Wars world and sometimes you get characters you treat them like actual beings and sometimes you get characters you treat them like they're robots and I really like how Leah captures that wonder of no this is this is a there's a real per there's a real

This is my friend. There's a real soul here, you know? Which kind of feeds into the whole thing of like entrusting R2D2 down the road with, you know, sending, transmitting a message to Obi-1 Canobi. It's also, yeah, I mean, obviously that connects to Lay. And I think of Obi-1's connection to droids,

which is not a positive one from what we've seen as far as what I've seen or what I remember. RIP, R4. Not a big reaction when R4 died. That's Obi-1's Astromech droid R4P-17. As soon as he dies... I didn't remember those numbers. Moment of silence for R4P-17.

It's iconic because it's a droid that he's been with for like 10 years, and he dies in Revenge of the Sith with the Buzz droids, and he's just like, oh, my. And he's just literally, that's his only line in reaction to it. And there's also... Oh, my. Attack the Clones, his speech with a... Dexter Jeter

where he's like... Refresh my memory here. Where Dexter Jester is talking about the droids and the Jedi Temple reading symbols instead of the little cut marks on the toxic dart. Vague, vague memory.

And he's like, well, if droids could think there'd be none of us here. Yeah. So... Freaking Obi-1, racist. Droidist. He's not a fan of droids. To be fair, there was a droid shooting at him

this episode. Droid bounty hunter. Dude. To more and more. Your man's back. Yeah. Oh, he sure had a cameo here. He sure put on a beard and sat down for an hour or two.

Again, Samora Morrison doesn't do as much as you think you will. I got so excited. I was like, oh, my man's back. I'm cool. Nice nod. I'm glad that you guys were on the same soundstage. Why didn't they make him like a Rex or something? I thought he would have been so much more engaging.

I thought he was Rex at first. I can't lie. I don't blame you for thinking he was Rex at first. And then it looked like he had the, uh, the, uh, 501st clone army. That clone grew some hair, man. Because that's the, uh, the clone regiment that's assigned to General Skywalker. I mean, the Clone Wars. I love how he just stays in the, he just stays in the clone.

I mean, I mean, if that's all you got. Nothing but the armor on my back. It's all he just stays in that. Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, one thing that stood out to me from something you said earlier that I think is perhaps I can envision being the sort of most gripping emotional core of this is you mentioned the idea that, you know, we get to a point where Anakin is dead invaders, is, you know, a complete excision or thing of the past. And I feel like we meet Obi-1 here in a position where he is kind of grappling with doing the same thing to Obi-1 and just continuing on as Ben. And so I feel like that is a nice complimentary internal struggle for both characters

because you know that there's going to be a flint spark when they both get back together and you know that their reunion will probably, you know, thrust, is going to thrust Vader down that path of killing Anakin fully within. And I think, you know, it's going to thrust Obi-Wan into kind of learning, I guess, the role of Ben in the life of Obi-1. But what is most exciting about that to me is the idea that we'll, probably see that conflict and those shades of Anakin that are still left over and see that, you know, through the transformed physical, like, because I keep thinking, like, every time we

hear about Hayden Christensen and his involvement, I always think of the Hayden Christensen, I remember, and it hit me watching this, that, oh, no, no, no, no, this is going to be like a fresh, it's going to almost be like he's playing a new character, even though it's built on top of all of this history and so I feel like that's the thing was like while this start has been like pretty decent to me like I'm into it and I'm excited to see where it goes I feel like that's the stuff where I'm like once we get to there I could see this really ascending and transcending and really starting to sing from where we are now well kind of going you know big star was brain mode uh in a new hope if obviously this is all canon we can't we

can debate inquisitor stuff whatever uh also we can debate the whole anakin you know reva stuff as well as far as like how does she know that but last time we saw them together in a new hope i mean the first time we see them in a new hope obviously he has that famous line as far as like you know you were the master now i'm the master you know that whole speech that he gave him as far as like the last time we met yeah i'm the captain now uh which kind of goes to show that like obi one still kicked his ass right so are we going to see him kick Vader's ass yeah I because that's the question that I have down the line because we see that he's a little rusty but this is like Obi-1 like Obi-1 cooks people cooks them I mean

they're going to be building to that fight and they said they're going to have another fight yeah and then obviously again I know I keep bringing up rebels I'm sorry you guys but in rebels he like beats mall and like one strike because he's just like I'm freaking one of these episodes will be a montage of just him training i was going to say thor love and thunder yeah yeah it's gonna be exactly he's just him using the force and then it'll end with him shaving his beard i feel like he would have to win um let's that there's another there's another line in a new hope about the tremor and it was always says a tremor in the force yeah something like that and i think that's kind of what maybe that was that what that moment was

what we just saw with Anakin being in the it could have just been a transition to a match cut transition or was him sensing Anakin

I felt like it was I felt like it was I feel like that's what they're hinting at I'm excited for them I'm excited for them if anything what this is doing

is really allowing them a redemption a new association for Star Wars and love for it you know that they rightfully have earned and

like look this is better than the prequels to me already are that's some big words man I think that's hard that's hard to fight episode one and two I would say

and I like I don't the only Star Wars movie I truly don't like is episode Return of the Jedi whoa don't like Phantom Mass

and I know a lot of people I know the common one is attack of the clones is the one that a lot of people don't like. I prefer attack of the clones. I mean, I love all three, but I love Phantom Menace, man. Fan of Manus is like one of my all-time favorites. I mean, I appreciate when I hear like thematically what it represents in the world. Like, I like all, I like, the dark mall scene. I love the, I love the context and the purpose it serves. I don't enjoy my

experience of the actual film that it is. That's my, but attack of the clones, I actually enjoy. Revenge of the Sith, I think, is a genuinely, a great movie. I love Revenge of the Sith. Yeah. That's a great film. Empire, hands down, the worst. Empire is boring and overrated.

And last Jedi, number one. My ranking of all the Star Wars films goes in reverse release order. Number one, rise of Skywalker. Two last Jedi at the very bottom. bottom, we got a new hope. I swear, man. It's, you guys invited, like, the one Star Wars fan who likes

all the Star Wars movies. That's why I want you to be here, man. That's the business. We want that enthusiasm. Because that's rare. So, if... Star Wars communities. So if you don't like something, I'm like, that must not be that good. No, I'm digging the crap out of this. If there's

a thing you don't like, then I'm going to be... If there's like a moment you don't like, I'll be like, I'm going to write that down. It's the worst moment. in Star Wars. Star Wars history. No, I swear, I'm big in this. I just felt like that moment. I got a reputation of preserve.

I swear. I love Star Wars, I swear. I love everything about this show. It's perfect. No, because to me, to me, I just, I don't want to be like, I feel like let's, I want to give Moses Ingram a chance, as far as her character goes, and that character is shot. I mean, that's why I feel bad when I say I have a hard time believing it, because it sounds like I'm saying you're a bad actor, so I'm like, no, I'm not saying that.

I'm just, I think, I just, there's, to me, acting in Star Wars have a dubious relationship. Sure. Yeah. I feel like that's fair, because obviously we have Liam Neeson in there, too, and a lot of people didn't say he was that great, even though it's Liam Neeson. I mean, Natalie Parman's one of the best actors of all time. Yeah. I don't think she's that great in the prequel. Yeah.

So, so. I don't know what you guys are talking about. I think she's great in the pream. But, but I feel like one of those things where it's like there is, the T-Praudman. aspect of Star Wars has been it's beloved already with the Mandalorian Boba Fett I think they just kicked it off so strong

when Mandalorian. Yeah. It's just so cinematic, you know. And it's great, but I feel like they're still trying to get a foothold as far as like where they want to be tone-wise and where they want to be story-wise. Because I feel like at least in movies say what you want of the prequels or

the sequels, they know what they're trying to do and trying to communicate as far tone and as far as story I talking to the wrong man it it never read my review the Rise of Skywalker did you like it I freaking loved it I liked it more than most people I don't love it I love it I think it's great I feel like they're still figuring out I love you a lot I see you guys most people don't get this far don't worry if you got this far if you got this far I swear I promise you'll find at least I 10, 50 people who are going to be like,

I hate this guy, he likes Star Wars. Do people hate me for whatever I don't like? For liking Star Wars. Star Wars is easily the community that I will get the... So I like this little lineup we have here. Yeah. Hardcore lover. Yeah, I love it.

And you seem to be liking this more than me. That is pretty decent. I'm waiting for it. I have mostly pleasant feelings. but I'm waiting for it to really, like, kick into a gear that I'm like, yeah, I can't wait. I think what's funny is, generally what you've seen us react to together, John generally seems to kind of be more into it than myself, yet I know Star Wars more than John, which I find funny about our dynamic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

You guys watch a lot of, a lot of good shows, right? A lot of quality. That's why this show sucks. Yeah. It's not all the other shows. This ain't breaking bad. This isn't better recalls. This isn't mad men.

Well, I mean, I feel like if you do a lot of TV watching and reacting it, it might like... I don't know. Maybe you can rank it in a different version in your head. Well, I mean... It's not really a comparison. We watch so much different types that it's easy to adjust.

To compartmentalize. Yeah, no, it's so easy to adjust. We'll have to, like, watch different shows all the time in the same day. Yeah, yeah. It's really easy to just switch modes. Yeah. Well, in Star Wars, it's fascinating

because I feel like oftentimes when you're dipping into it, you're dipping in on multiple levels because there is, to me, a big picture of Star Wars and there is the minutia of Star Wars. And I feel like they exude the most confidence to me when they're diving into some minutia. And it's always the big picture where I'm like, I don't know if you all fully know what you want. And, you know, because there's been all that stuff lately about like, well, we've learned from solo. We can just never recast any of these characters with other actors whereas like that's what we're watching right now is that happened but it was more agreeable because clearly it's not a singular rule and so like something like this

I'm waiting to see all the way through because I'm wondering like right now in a big picture sense I'm still not sure what this show is exactly doing aside from like literally filling in historical gaps but in the minutia is where it gets me excited and where you know moments shine out that I'm like that's really cool and I hope they build on it you know well I think I think the main thing about Obi-1 is is the best like the plot stuff surrounding obi-1 the character is more of where I have that question mark that you're bringing up but in terms of Obi-1 the character that's the stuff that I really appreciate that they're flushing out is like this guy had a you know after episode three which was the worst experience of his life then you hop in episode four

he's like otherwise old than that you know I went through a whole lot but this is you're watching him do the grieving you know you're watching him handle like how he got to that it's not it's more than just a gap I'm like this is a like specifically Obi-1

the character not the other surrounding stuff but Obi-1 the character this is so such an important chapter in his life of how did he keep faith in all this and I feel like and I feel like that's what we're building up to already with episode one as far as

the quigone stuff we get a little tease as far as that goes. Talk to me, goose. We get a little bit of a you don't know they're right here in some talk about. Can we just, I just want to take a moment to say, I want a Tom Cruise Star War.

I want Tom Cruise in the universe. I don't know if I want that. In the galaxy far, far away. I don't know if I can sign off on that. May the Force be with you. But I feel like leading up to like you said i feel like this is more of a character exploration everything else surrounding the character doesn't have to necessarily be spectacular for me but as long as the character gets a little bit more deeper as far as his connection to the force because being a force ghost is

actually like being more connected to the force that's a big deal so we see him being so disconnected and we know that eventually he becomes one of the few people who becomes a force ghost which is not, you know, which is a very rare ability. Yeah. Which I feel like a lot of people from the outside, like, I had to learn that. You know, like, then it's not just like, oh, you die and then you become a force. Because it's like, no, it's like very special circumstance. Much, you know, intent and much, you know, melding to and meditating on the force.

Yeah. But yeah, guys, we got to get these videos to you guys. So we're going to wrap this stuff now. Tom, you're watching this. you've seen all the stranger things we just want to give you time but thank you guys for being here thanks ace for joining us on this

weekly adventure man and appreciate your insights and thanks to Headspace for sponsoring this video and we will see you all next week or if you want to watch more videos we upload constantly so we'll see you guys every day Brian Perry. Brian, check this out. You know why you're perfect to shout out on a Star Wars related video?

Check the... Everyone, everyone check this out. Guys. Everyone's everyone around. I want everyone to check this out. It is generally thought to be of Celtic origin, the name Brian. But its meaning is disputed. Some believe... Everyone check this out. It is to be derived from the root brie, meaning force. Oh, it's strength, but mainly the keyword force because, you know, it's Star Wars. It's about forcing people to do things they don't want to do. That's why they say, may the force be with you, meaning assert yourself and create dominance and power, will yourself into situations and get things from people without their permission.

Force, may the force be with you. So that's what the pit I had in mind. Or it could mean, or brouac. I'll sleep high. I think we should go with force and strength. That's much better. So, yeah, man, that's a good name meaning. You are the spirit of the force.

You are one with the force, Brian. That's beautiful, dude. You are force and strength, and you give us strength by being supportive at our patron, allowing us to, because that patron helps us hire people to do stuff. You're a big help, like a wandering help guy. But stop forcing yourself to do things you don't want to do. I almost want to wait to for jokes.

So thanks for error. No, no, Brian's not Brian. Thanks for being here. Brian's not that kind of force guy. Brian's a consent guy.