The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: Obi Wan Kenobi PART IV Review!

Episode Date: June 8, 2022

STAR WARS JEDI FALLEN ORDER VIBES as Obi-Wan battles stormtroopers in The Inquisitors Fortress! Obi-Wan Kenobi Part IV Reaction as we recap & review the episode alongside our bud @SquadLeaderAce! R...EACTION HIGHLIGHTS on YouTube & FULL LENGTH (Sync-Up) WATCH ALONGS at Patreon.com/TheReelRejects!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:01 This is easy titles to remember on this show. Yeah, we are once again joined by our good friend and Star Wars aficionado Ace Cabrera. Really enjoy having him in the room for these and look forward to having him in the future for more Star Wars reactions, more Star Wars content. Yeah, this episode, you know, we're going to break it down. This is, it's funny. This is the shortest episode and the longest discussion we've had. So, you know, obviously some feelings were generated and, you know, there are a lot of feelings circulating already about how people feel, you know, how people's take on this episode. But yeah, sorry. Trying to do these on the fly without, you know, using too much repetitive language. But anyway, if you want to come and check out the reaction highlights, those can be found on our YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash the real rejects. Or if you want to sync up with your own copy and enjoy the full experience with us, those can be found at our Patreon page, patreon. com slash the real rejects and now without further ado we got a star wars chat just for you roll that intro all right cool in the gang we're here to talk about this episode now you know the drill um yeah you know
Starting point is 00:02:14 I got some, you got to take these shows, especially this one, the way that these episodes start and stop feel so much like, I kind of wish this was a bin show because of the way the rhythm of how these episodes start and stop, because it seems like you're supposed to take it in as one whole package and not as an episode by episode case, especially when it's one of those shows were the same director of each one of every single episode so because i do have some i do have some things i there's a lot i really like about this show some things i really do love and then there's other parts and i'm like i guess i'll wait to see the final episode before i lay down the law of opinions up in here because my opinion holds the most highest
Starting point is 00:03:04 some of authorities. But we'll focus on the episode in and of itself. I'm just here to tease my outrage. Wokeness. Right, A's? Right, man? Yeah, Ace.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Wokeness, right? No, not at all. Woke Army. God damn. Obi-1 going through a fortress. Wokeness. Obi-Woke. They...
Starting point is 00:03:29 Fighting stormtroopers, Wokeness. No. All stormtroopers are white, I'm just saying. I hope you won a little weak. It must mean it's woke because Reba is strong. Anyway, we'll stop acknowledging them for now.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Who went? John, you go first this time. What did you think about this episode? Tell the world why you thought it was perfect on every account. Oh, just nothing could be better about this episode. I thought this was a decent episode and I absolutely agree with what you just said about it,
Starting point is 00:04:01 feeling as though it's part. The other previous episodes up until this point have felt a bit more well-rounded. This is the shortest of them so far. And I feel like we say this about Disney Plus shows so often. I feel like they could have taken a little bit of that extra time that we're accustomed to and maybe added it back in to flesh out. Some of the real peril, especially as it pertains to Obi-Wan getting the job done. That was the thing where I was like, oh, he did it.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Can I interrupt really quick? I have a theory as to why this. episode was so short and why some things felt like they were cut down abruptly does anyone want to guess what my theory is as i feel like we can guess it in this room uh i mean they want people to also watch miss marvel tonight i sure yeah i mean if they wanted people to watch miss marvel they wouldn't put it in the same night you think yeah i think that's an easier way to do that instead of making obvi one shorter you Well, but we also live in a world
Starting point is 00:05:05 where most people can just watch one and then the other at midnight if they really care and they're not going to be in a studio shooting. It's a conspiracy theory, Ace. I don't know about that. I feel like it's so easy to put, why can't they just put Miss Marvel Thursday nights? Because, man, Thursday is a different day.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It is. It takes a lot. We have to have competent. It takes a lot of resources and infrastructure to upload a video file and then set it to public. If we don't compete with ourselves, someone else is going to compete with us. The boys have Friday, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:41 They're like, if they binge Stranger Things, then they're going to binge Miss Marvel and Obi-One. All right, John, sorry to interrupt. I just had my conspiracy theory that Ace agrees with. All I could think of in this episode was Miss Marvel. Yeah, I mean, it was really cool to see just the whole breadth of Ace. I will consult your knowledge.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It's the imperator... The inquisitorship. The Inquisitor's... Stately inquisitor manor. The Fortress Inquisitorious. The Fortress Inquisitorious. There we go. It was very cool to be inside there
Starting point is 00:06:17 and to be on a sneaking mission and, you know, to have these close calls. This... I really think my favorite part of this episode was the back and forth between Riva and Leah. I thought that was really good. And everything else was like cool in a video game-esque kind of way.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But it just mainly left me wanting in the sense that, like, I want to really feel the tension. I don't want to be distracted by my number one pet peeve in shows and movies where people are, like, talking next to people who are going to hear and discover them. But for some reason, their voices don't carry. I don't know. There was just little things that hampered the suspense for me. It was like a really cool, well-produced episode. But, yeah. I have some thoughts on the tension and suspense of why I think overall in the show it's sort of been lacking.
Starting point is 00:07:00 but again only teasing the outrage right now real outrage real reject outrage Disney
Starting point is 00:07:13 why do you Disney Ace what are your thoughts on this episode my friend I enjoyed it man it's definitely an isolated shorter
Starting point is 00:07:26 episode I definitely agree with what you're saying though it definitely felt like I could kind of just keep watching the next one. It felt more like a in-between episode, kind of bridging probably the first half and the second half of the season. And I felt like this was kind of just like the rescue Leah.
Starting point is 00:07:46 We know she's going to get rescued, but this is how it happens. Let's do a quick 30-minute episode on how it happens. So I did feel like it's definitely kind of like that bridge in between one that you can of quickly go through if you were in the binge model doing that so yeah but i i definitely like what you were saying john as far as the set design is so cool it's so freaking cool like seeing ner being underwater seeing obi one swim underwater the the lighting was really cool
Starting point is 00:08:20 like all that stuff just works really freaking well and i feel like that's a big plus seeing obi one take down stormtroopers was cool disney plus yeah disney plus Seeing Obi-1 take down Serb Troopers was cool to me That's something we haven't seen in a minute When their torture chair was legitimately kind of horrifying Yeah, I mean That was the scariest part of the episode It was a little jarring to see a little girl scream
Starting point is 00:08:46 In a torture chamber That is definitely That was a lot I mean So that probe droid and a new hope That was nothing I mean there's various interrogation droids throughout Star Wars and
Starting point is 00:09:00 I'm just saying like Layas come face to face with this is a little The ITO interrogator drug Yeah I think The biggest issue I have
Starting point is 00:09:12 With this show so far Is because like I agree with what you guys Are saying is cool It all is cool And it's a big thing Very cool Very cool
Starting point is 00:09:24 That's a brother Remina reference Wow wow wow Oh, you were doing pitch meeting. I was doing red letter meeting. All right movies. So, like, yeah, because going through the Inquisitor Fortress is awesome. I, especially after, you know, playing Jedi Fallen Order, like that felt so much.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Oh, the game, look at it. It's working on the feelings I have from the game. You know, it was really, it was nice to see that. And I did like Riva scenes a lot in here. the actors to play you know you got it's child actors it's i find it really um mean if you rip into a child actor and i know some people who have done it when it comes to the late actors and i don't think she's bad i don't think she's bad there are some times where like eh yeah you know but you're a child actor like what are we what i'm going to tell you this is much i expect less of you to be
Starting point is 00:10:22 like so real in a certain scene but there are times where she does feel very real You know? Sometimes when she sounds like authoritative is when I have a hard time believing her specifically. But for the most part, I think she does a great job and I'm not just saying that to be nice. I think she does a really good job. And I do think the back and forth between them was nice. It was kind of like a different flipparoo from Granmoth Tarkin and Grogu. Where
Starting point is 00:10:46 you know, like her bad, not Sith, but sort of Sith interrogating important child. You know? I mean, uh, getting off. Gideon? Who did I say? Grand Moth Tarkin? Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Keeps are cushing back again from the grave. I was like, what do I do wrong? I was like, good pull, but wait, I don't remember that. No, yeah, Jedi fall in order. Yeah, guys. Rogu adventures. I'm sorry, they kind of sound a little bit similar in some way. Now I'm going to get crap for saying that.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Dryden Foss. The letters are so different, Greg. I was thinking of Mandalorian season two. Yeah, it was kind of making me think of that. We're not really Sith, but, you know, can do sort of Sith stuff, whatever. You don't get it. Yeah, I like that. I think the biggest issue I have with this show right now is it is this, I like, I'm kind of back and forth.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I find that so warm with the whole scene with like Leah holding Obi-1's hand and, you know, Obi-1 feeling kind of directionless in his life. like I've just been here on tattooing and watching this boy and I don't know if I'm contributing to this at all and now to see this effect he's had on Leia and showing how necessary
Starting point is 00:12:05 he was to be there for and the bond is such a great part of this episode at times though the focus of this show of it being Obi-1 and Leah and then trying to admit all this suspense and danger
Starting point is 00:12:21 I have a hard time buying into it because it's such a central focus of the show and I don't feel the fear of it because I'm like well I'm obviously Lay is going to be fine. It is such an obvious thing. Whereas I'll feel the concern and worry for character whose name I'm not currently remembering. Who is the Tala? Riva. Riva. I'm so worried Riva's going to die. No, Tala. Yeah, I'll feel concerned for Tala in those scenes. And that's why like Mandalorian works so well because these are new characters. We don't know the path they're on. And so I like it. Here's how I would describe it. I feel like I would actually appreciate a lot of
Starting point is 00:13:05 this story more if I picked up a book and I read it and like, oh, it's kind of cool to learn the backstory of this. But in terms of a suspenseful show, especially a show that's trying to be so suspenseful and so intense and not really do much character exploration in between to just like a lot of intimate character moment scenes it lacks a lived in quality yes so i'm that's a big part of what's missing for me here is like i like the concept and i like the idea and there are parts about it i really do enjoy um but when it comes to building like actual tension out of it i'm like nah i don't really i don't really feel it and uh especially for an episode like this it's supposed to be like pulse pounding but thrusting you right into the action and i'm like
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah. I'm kind of just watching it, though. I mean, I feel like the tension, I feel like the tension that we're trying to build up was more about the safety of Leah, if that makes sense, more than necessarily her dying or being captured forever. Like, I think that the scene where she's about to get tortured, I did feel the tension because it definitely felt like,
Starting point is 00:14:16 oh, crap, does Leia, you know? That's weird, I didn't feel it at all. Really? I was like, nothing's going to happen. I'm in between you. I'm like, this is the most tense I feel during this episode, but it is a short-lived moment, and I feel like they maybe were afraid
Starting point is 00:14:30 to go too heavily into child in peril, torture device sequence. So obvious something was going to happen. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know. I kind of felt like they could probably go there because they hinted at going there in a new hope. And obviously, they've hinted at going there in various other media
Starting point is 00:14:48 when different people are being tortured. So I did feel that tension. I also feel like a lot of it, too, has to do with more of the prequel ideology, if that makes sense, where it's more about not necessarily like, oh, well, we know Anakin's not going to die in this episode. Like, we all know that, and we all know that Obi-1 is going to be fine in all those other movies, but we still feel some sort of tension. That's why Solo worked for me as well, Solo Star Wars Story. Never again.
Starting point is 00:15:17 You know, there was moments where you were like, oh, this is crazy, but we know they're going to survive. You still felt it because of the characters that were involved in, because the way it was shot, produced, edited, all that kind of stuff. So I think it works. I think it works for what they're trying to tell. I just feel like this episode itself was so quick and to the point in short that there might not be enough to chew on necessarily. Fair enough. I mean, like, I don't, I don't agree with the, because there are some people who just write off the concept of a prequel in totality of it, of what I just, of the stuff I was expressing. It's like there's the difference between something like X-Men Origins Wolverine and something like X-Men First Class to me.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Like X-Men first class, I think is so effective in one of the best X-Men movies. And that's such a prequel, and you know it's going to head down a path. We're like, Charles and Eric are probably not going to be friends with you, you know? And Revenge of the Sith, I think, is a great film. I love that movie. But there's something about the intimate details that feels, that's the hard part about explaining. I have a hard time of different how to explain it because I guess it just comes down to a subjective feeling on the matter, you know? I can't convince you to feel a certain way.
Starting point is 00:16:38 But I feel like a lot of that has to do with the season versus the episode, right, where the season might give you. what you're asking for, but this episode specifically maybe didn't give you that, but maybe that's not necessarily what the episode was going for. I've never really felt it for any of the episodes with Leah of like, oh, no, Leia, you're in danger. Well, I think the troubling, the tricky thing about prequels is often that you're both, further along in times you have better technology and you have the foregone conclusions. And I think the way that you is going to come right back to this is the way that you temper that is to really invest us in the personal stakes of the characters in the moment so that it doesn't matter if you know
Starting point is 00:17:20 the outcome because you know how hard these trials are going to be and again it's that lived in quality it's like they've given it to us in little fits and bursts and I think all the actors are killing it for the most part I think there are you can tell the homework is there and I would love I feel like this show more than any other show perhaps in the Star Wars universe uh pitched thus far like we did so much of like Boba Fett of just like looking at his past and he's with the tuskins and it's very sort of poetically shot and it's not really dialogue heavy and I'm like you could do stuff like that here with Obi-1 and really get into his psyche because this is your opportunity to do better what they did or at least more agreeably for everybody what they tried
Starting point is 00:18:04 to do with Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi you know it's like this is a different version of Obi-1, then the pinnacles that we know him from, let's dive into that state of being. And it's there in his performance, but I don't feel like it's much there in the writing. It's very action-oriented. It's very straightforward action-oriented. The past couple episodes have been like that quite a bit. Ace, why are we wrong? I mean, I think the focus, I feel like a lot of people might be, maybe it is because she's a little girl
Starting point is 00:18:35 and because it's Leia and because it's such an iconic character. but the focus is still on Obi-1. And I still feel like everything we got from Obi-1 in every single episode so far has been killer, like has been really freaking good. Whether it is the acting, whether it is the backstory, whether it is even the action,
Starting point is 00:18:54 kind of the build-up to him getting in shape. But I think that's kind of a cool little way of like slowly but surely building his way up to fighting shape. I think that's something we haven't really seen in Star Wars. before and it's something that is really clever the way they build it into the show it's not necessarily you know is obi one going to get out of the situation it's how is he going to get out of the situation it's how he's going to overcome the stormtroopers it's how many stormtroopers is he going to take out is he going to use the force to take them out is he going to use this to take
Starting point is 00:19:24 him out like i think that's a clever way to get us invested into the action is to show us his buildup into the force and using the force a thousand percent as a way to fight off to storm is he going to go ham and just take down like 40 like all that kind of stuff to me is a really cool way for deborah child to kind of showcase where obi one is at his journey yeah i like the last half of this episode a lot the last half is what really got me very i was that's when i was feeling it especially when he did start using his lightsaber and started using the force because i do like the story concept of you know it's it's it's it's kind of a typical action story just with the Star Wars backdrop of, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:09 traumatized action hero is retired, and then he's pulled back out of retirement to save little girl. It's a very... He's got a big beard. Logan, it's a billion other action movies. It's a bunch of action movies, and now we're doing it with a Jedi way,
Starting point is 00:20:25 and you're watching him slowly get back in tune with the force. And I... So I really like that whole scene, you know, especially when he is holding the water, and you get to see Leia really... witness him being like this guy really cares about me he's he's really protecting me right now he's he's a real Jedi you know and it's giving her something to believe in too in terms of this rise of the rebellion um and whatnot uh i i really i really appreciate those nuances and those details and
Starting point is 00:20:54 i guess i find myself more often craving um the the way i'm receptive to that i find myself craving more with that feeling more with this show. And I think that's kind of what starts to lack from you. And I had a question about Vader. What's his deal with this? Because there was a lot of people who were bitching about it, and I was like, I'm sure he's got a motive for it.
Starting point is 00:21:20 A lot of people bitched about how he could have, he like wanted Obi-1 to suffer or something with the fire, right? And then they watched him get away, and he didn't like put the fire out or try to get vater or try to get obi one back in the last episode and it seemed like he was around here at the fortress and after all the shit goes down he just comes storming and they're like obi one gone what you know and and so i i don't quite i feel like they'll eventually fully reveal it to us but i'm not quite getting what they're doing with with vader yeah i mean i think they i think they said that he was in mustafar and he wasn't
Starting point is 00:21:57 on her he wasn't in the fortress that he was on in his castle right you're right about that you're right so he didn't say right about that yeah so he wasn't there and I feel like that's like a trope too with Vader is that he's never really there no like I really think that's an actual trope whether it's Empire Strikes back you're right about that I think that's something that's a really why you're the expert to remember details that we just learned 20 minutes ago it's a way to feature other characters especially the Inquisitors and Reva and and to not
Starting point is 00:22:27 rely too heavily on Vader just being like monologing, monologing, monologing, like to make it more about Obi-One's journey and to make Vader kind of the final threat or the final boss at the end versus just having him show up everywhere and chase him down and stuff. I think that's, to me, that's a better way of showcasing Vader is in small bits and pieces rather than him just kind of running after Obi-1. I think, though, that the way how Disney marketed this show is working against it in a lot of ways. You think they marketed Vader a lot? That was like the big hype about this.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I don't, I don't know. I mean, he was in the trailer, but he wasn't like. No, I mean, yeah. I feel like the Inquisitors were in the trailer more than Vader was. Definitely. But when this show was announced, you know, like you're way more of an extreme Star Wars fan than John and I. But we know, we stay plugged in, though, to what people are talking about.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And even the first sizzle reel For this The first actual look at this shit You know And then like the promotions Are all like Hayden Christensen And Darth Vader And then the sizzle reel was like
Starting point is 00:23:38 I'm gonna battle it out again And we're gonna Justice for Hayden Christensen There's so much about that And I think that I think they did create an expectation In one's mind Because nothing is more intriguing
Starting point is 00:23:52 I don't think anything with Riva or any of the Inquisitors is more intriguing than exploring more of that and the depths of that. The third episode is like the best for many people for a reason. And I think that we, like I like all this other stuff. I mean, The Inquisitors are whatever to me. I like all this other stuff for the most part. But I do get a little bit like,
Starting point is 00:24:17 I wonder if like the last episode is just going to be so Anakin Obi-1 heavy. You know, I imagine that's where they're going. And I don't want to be the guy who's, like, bitching about something when I know that's probably going to happen later on. It's just, well, we get there smoothly. And I don't know how you felt about Book of Boba Fed. I really didn't like the final episode. I was really let down by it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And I don't want it to be another Disney Plus mess where, oh, it's going good. It's going great. Ah, but, man, they dropped the ball in the finale. I definitely feel you on that, especially with Marvel shows for me, where Marvel shows tend to. Hey, we're talking about Star Wars. true but still they marble out of this
Starting point is 00:24:56 you said this keep Marvel's name out of your mouth I said Disney plus did I say Marvel huh huh I'm so sorry Kevin I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:25:03 I'm sorry if you're watching this Mr. Feigey please don't he will not be on any market I don't know there's a reason or your Star Wars movie any Marvel shows
Starting point is 00:25:12 no but I do feel like I know what you mean as far as like the finale being a little bit too much versus trying to focus on the like we're gonna wrap the shit up on the story Yeah, to me, I don't know because I don't really, when it comes to marketing, it's difficult
Starting point is 00:25:30 because you do want to have, when you have an actor like Hayden Christensen come back for a role, whether it be a small part in the role, whether it be a huge part in the role, I think you have to feature him in marketing as far as in press and stuff like that because it's a way to give credence to an actor that has been a part of Star Wars for such a long time, To be completely honest, I think me and a few other people out there, I think as far as Star Wars YouTube channel, Star Wars Explained, for example, didn't have those high expectations when it came to Hayden Christensen because we kind of were like, okay, they're featuring him a lot in marketing. It doesn't necessarily mean we're going to get flashbacks of Hayden, we're going to get Vader a bunch of times out of the suit. like we kind of expected very little because we know that at this point in his life Anakin is Vader so the very few times we will see Hayden is going to be few and far between
Starting point is 00:26:28 so I feel like that was more of just like a shout out a credence a appreciation for Hayden more than it was like oh he's going to be in every episode and he's going to be featured and we're going to get a backstory we're going to get flashback like I didn't feel that when it came to the marketing I just felt like this is in Christensen, he's worthy of being recognized as Anakin and Bader. I just keep wondering what the emotional direction of the show
Starting point is 00:26:54 is going for with Obi-1, too. Like, how is this guy going to arc into the Obi-1 who's like, all right, so I'm going back to tattooing? I'm just going to hang out here for a while now. Yeah, I mean, I think we'll figure that out, though. I still feel like we have time
Starting point is 00:27:09 um... Shill. It's not an hour and a half of this left, Ace. Come on, Ace. Maybe an hour 45 minutes of episode if the last one's long we talked about the outrage it's difficult for me to prejudge something when it's not finished no that's why i love you yeah it's way too reasonable that's very no that's very true man it's very true it's a little too hard for me to be like yo one rescued layes swam underwater this show sucks like for me it's like i'm not saying let's uh other people no no but i'm saying like i think i think we still have a story to tell
Starting point is 00:27:45 I feel like a story isn't just, you know, one journey. A story is, you know, sections and factions of little adventures. How do we get to where we are? What happens as far as along the journey to get there? True. And I'm just saying, I guess for me, I don't know how you feel it's like the journey for me has been a little emotional, emotionally hit and miss for me to like cool information. to oh I'm actually really invested in this and every episode is kind of episode three I was invested really invested for the most part but the other the other ones I've I'm kind of like
Starting point is 00:28:25 really weaving in and out of I'm just kind of gathering information versus I'm really feeling this moment that's why I would not write this show off no I think I mean I think especially with this show there's something fair to be said for the idea that it is being build heavily as a limited series. So in that sense, I'm like, yes, benefit of the doubt. Let's see how the whole thing looks at the end. However, I would say we are now four episodes in out of six. And I feel like for my experience, to be satisfied at this point,
Starting point is 00:29:01 I feel like there's going to be a lot of emotional legwork to do in the last two episodes because the show has felt very, again, straightforward and plot oriented and looking at even the core, you know, sort of relationship and distance between Obi-Wan and Anakin, Vader, you know, even that, like, Vader shows up and is really scary for moments. But I feel like, you know, most of what I know about what that story's development is, thus far as Vader's pretty upset and traumatized over the last time he saw Obi-Wan, so he kind of wants to get him and probably hurt him. I guess the emotional meat is there. It's just not taking center stage for me. Yeah, I mean, I think to be honest, it's a lot to do with this episode. I feel like this episode was very much like... You think it's all about this one episode?
Starting point is 00:29:49 No, I'm saying it. I'm saying the meat of this episode was so thin that it's just a little bit difficult to kind of like feel it in this episode. And I agree with you guys when it comes to like really having something to chew on and the emotional stakes in this episode. Because there wasn't a lot there unless you were, like you said, John, a fan of that Leia and Reva. interaction. But other than that, that was kind of it. The rest of the episode was much more of like, how do we go from point A to point B, which is probably a detriment to the episode. But again, like you said, John, I feel like when it comes to the complete package of it, I don't know. I think a lot of it too has to do with perhaps the way we view different shows nowadays. Sure. I just
Starting point is 00:30:32 binge stranger things. I think if I saw like episode three or episode two by itself, I probably wouldn't be that invested, if I'm being honest, but seeing like three or four episodes in a row, it made me feel a little bit more hooked. It made me feel a little bit more connected to where the story was going. And even then, it still very much felt like half a story, which again, it is. It's part one. But I feel like that's just the way we're viewing different episodes and shows now. It's like we're taking bits and pieces of a story versus the entire story. The way you feel about Stranger Things is how I feel about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I got you. I'd agree with that. Because I feel like, I don't know, man. I still feel like, if I'm being real, I think I'd got more in these three episodes than I did probably in the first three of Stranger Things. I think, golly. I think Ace isn't coming back for episodes. It's been nice to know you. Bechna is out to get me.
Starting point is 00:31:33 See, those are like. I'm going to the upside there. That show, I was like, put that thing week to week. And this one, I'm wondering, maybe this would, like you said earlier, maybe this would make a better bit. Interesting, yeah. I didn't feel that way. Especially with an episode like this, it makes me really feel like this might have been better if I watched. This episode might have been better if I just watched it immediately after.
Starting point is 00:31:51 But even then, it's like this, I don't know, there's something about, this one was, it also did feel really rushed. It's like, you meet O'Shea Jackson, who's like, no, I'm not helping you. Five seconds later, all right, I talked myself into it about remembering why I'm doing this in the first place. you know that was just for me guys and then these people die at the end and to be honest or that guy that the Wade guy dies at the end and I don't give a shit
Starting point is 00:32:21 like I'm like honestly dude I don't even remember you from five minutes ago I don't remember who you are and we walk around inside of a Jedi tomb trophy room you know which is and I think I think I don't want to say the word milk it live in it
Starting point is 00:32:38 yeah like live in it or do some of that like Hollywood romanticizing or some bullshit terminology of of like like Obi-1 fighting the stormtroopers and using his powers like just watching him get his powers back like really make a
Starting point is 00:32:53 strong emotional moment out of that you know more like that might just be the like the way it's edited or the way it breathed sometimes of like the scene When Leia holds his hand, that took its time and that hit.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And they could have done that with so many more moments in this one episode that if you're not going to do like a bunch of dialogue exchanges to uncover character background, at least really let those moments hit. I agree. I feel like... Oh, my God. Ais is finally agreed with something. Welcome. This whole time I've been sweating my ass off. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I've changed my mind. Yeah, we're so close. You know, Star Wars so much better. He was not agreeing with me at all. I just feel like every criticism you have is valid. But I don't feel like that's necessarily a criticism of the show more than it is a criticism of this episode. This episode did feel like it was rushed. It did feel like it didn't have as much meat to it.
Starting point is 00:33:46 It did feel like it didn't have as much emotional stakes to it. But I feel like that's more a detriment to a standalone episode more than it is a detriment to the entire show is in general. I hope you are correct. Yeah. Well, guys, do you prefer this or stranger things for? I prefer this. Wow, really? How about the boys?
Starting point is 00:34:11 Anybody? No? I don't see the boys. I don't watch the boys. Wow. Thanks for not helping that. Go watch this more. Reactions.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Go watch Miss. Playing right now. Disney Plus, everything's out. All right, guys. Yeah. Well, leave your thoughts down below. That's good, good, open discussion. This was a nice discussion, guys.
Starting point is 00:34:34 We did it. I'm a tad harsher. ace is a lot more happy you're like kind of in between that's right I'm the gray Jedi that we don't talk about it's not canon I guess but maybe I'm the Jedi who's like
Starting point is 00:34:50 fucking Jedi counsel I swear you're pushing me to the goddamn dark son that Jedi Mace Window over in Skywalk That is Anakin Skywalker Or Anakin Skywalker There's a lot of them out there man All right
Starting point is 00:35:02 The Jedi's can be repressed a bit follow Jedi Do you think we'll see Quinlan Voss I mean that kind of
Starting point is 00:35:11 looked like Quinlan Voss in that Jedi too okay I'm sorry to say this if it is
Starting point is 00:35:18 Quinlan Voss and they didn't make a moment out of it this show's bullshit and that's not just because oh my God
Starting point is 00:35:29 he was in Clone Wars and your ruin no they had a whole moment in the last episode when he's like
Starting point is 00:35:34 Quillenlin was here? Oh, my. Oh, my. But I'm not going to spend any time with his course. Yeah, I'm not going to even acknowledge it. But even, yeah, like, but that scene, too, would have just really hit of just... That could have been a big expanding scene for him. That should have been, like, the most triggering moment for him.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Should have been that moment. Yeah. You know? I mean, seeing that Youngling was, was, it was quick, but it was still like, oh, we should have lingered on this a tiny bit more. Yeah? Yeah. Wow. How'd they embalmed them like that?
Starting point is 00:36:03 Who, whose idea was it to be? be like, put the hat back on that young way. They saw Jurassic Park and they were like, let's get us some amber and let's freeze some moments in time. Do you like his outfit? I think we should change it. No, probably, though. Like, that's how sick they are, as they probably
Starting point is 00:36:18 do. It's like a museum. They primp them, yeah. Yeah. We got to get one of those. Yeah, we need a tomb hallway. Promise me when I dies. I have one of those in your home. Me. But make sure it's like...
Starting point is 00:36:33 We got to pose you the right way. I want to be one of the hard-to-reach corpses on the second level that you can't really sit and admire. It reminded me of the scene in Young Justice where they have them in Stasis. I think it's Despero, or Mongo, it might be Mongo, where they keep them in trophies. Don't mess this up, man. You got too much. It's very similar. Like, if I show you guys an image, you guys will be like, oh, they could have taken it from that because it looks very similar.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Well, dude, Star Wars is all about Easter eggs and references now. That's all it matters. As long as you do that, you're hitting the... They're going to start referencing other IPs now. Star Wars is going to get really... Have you seen Young Justice? Somehow, the longest video of ours is the shortest episode of Star Wars. We had to make up for lost time.
Starting point is 00:37:19 What the hell? We're going to think we just inserted the whole episode here. All right. All right, guys, this video is truly done. But before that, let's do a Patreon. Andrew Hayes. So Andrew, So, hey, something about Andrew Hayes.
Starting point is 00:37:35 You'd probably get along with this guy pretty well. He's been, like, one of our patrons for the longest time. Years, man, years. Short stocky fellow, like, got talks like this. And he's, like, adorable, but intimidated the same time, you know? He was like Wolverine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's great.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And he was telling me a story recently about how he was at a bachelor party. This is true. I don't know if you know if he wants to reveal him this, but I'm doing it anyway. I might have, this is where I've severed the cord of a better patriot. No longer a patron. I told you this in confidence. He was at a bachelor party.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And then they got kicked out of a, I believe it was a strip of before. They thought they were soliciting prostitution there. And legalize it. And I would believe, I mean, to be Frank Andrew, if I saw you and I heard that, I would be like, yeah, probably. Let me look at the guy, right?
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Starting point is 00:39:02 and then not to get home for a while. And then the prostitutes all showed up and helped. Yes. Gave them a lift. They all pushed a scooter. They all ironically leaned out the window themselves and said, hey, do you need a ride? We're sexual services.
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Starting point is 00:39:31 You can get a woman. all in your own. I believe in you, Andrew. I mean, if it's Wolverine, then dang, you can you cut some women up that seems better than love. Yeah, and if they stick around with you, then you know you got real love. Ain't that right, ace. That's right. Real love, baby.
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