The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: Obi Wan Kenobi PART VI - SEASON FINALÉ Review!

Episode Date: June 22, 2022

We've made it to the finalé, people!!! Part VI of Obi Wan Kenobi proves to be one of the most thrilling as Obi Wan finally goes toe-to-toe with his once-Padewan. Our bud & resident Star Wars expert..., Ace Cabrera (@SquadLeaderAce!!) joins us once again to discuss Obi Wan's journey, Darth Vader & Anakin Skywalker, Reva's completed arc, the fate of young Luke & Leia, and a whole lot more! ...oh, and did someone say QUI-GON?!?! REACTION HIGHLIGHTS on YouTube & FULL LENGTH (Sync-Up) WATCH ALONGS at Patreon.com/TheReelRejects!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Financing subject to credit approval, additional terms and conditions may apply. What's going on there, listeners of the real rejects? Hey, Ace, say hi. Hello. Yes, shout at the microphone while you're here, Ace. Please, go ahead. Ace doesn't know this. We actually have the podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:14 So what we do here, guys, is that we do reactions on YouTube, and then we do, like, the reviews, the breakdowns afterwards. So we are recording this intro right now, and then we will, you know, follow them immediately after this. This is so smooth. we're immediately following after this our review of the final episode of Obi-1 will be going up but if you guys
Starting point is 00:01:34 want to watch our reaction you can go on YouTube.com slash the real rejects and you will find our reaction to the final episode of Obi-1 over there but in the meantime roll that intro this is great I did an excellent job
Starting point is 00:01:50 didn't I guys I killed it if you want to sync up and watch the full show with us you can come over to patreon.com slash the real regents as well we plug that here too I'll, I try to each time. Oh my God, let's plug everything. You can follow Ace and squatter Ace on Twitter.
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Starting point is 00:02:16 domestic violence. What else is that? Hey, what games are you watching these days? What basketball are you watching? The NBA. Maybe finals are over. Oh, that's it. It's too bad.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Oh, man, sports. I love sports. I'm all about sports. I'm not sponsored by the NBA. I'm constantly watching sports. And, uh, all right. I can't stop watching sports. Let's roll that intro.
Starting point is 00:02:44 What? Oh, no way. Leah, she was taken. You have a very particular set of skills. Skills I taught you. Oh, my God. Cool. Bars, man.
Starting point is 00:03:05 A buddy show with Quigon and Obi-Wan. Dude. Season two. Obi-Wan and the Ghost. Watch how tensions rise as they room together. Could you not just walk through the walls like that? I told you to respect my privacy. Master Quaghan, you can't just stop in to teach me whenever you want, all right?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Boundaries, dude. Oh, man. Is there a post-credit? It's three post-credits. Three post-credit scenes. And they're all just trailers for the original trilogy. It's cool. It's a piece sick.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Baru got to be a little badass for a change, huh? That never happens. I mean, she's only in like two scenes. I know, but she got to be like, quit being a bitch. Oh, and take a gun. Yeah, here. Let me get one too. We're fighting back.
Starting point is 00:04:00 That's right, man. Even Baru got woke. It's crazy. I know. Dark times we lived in. Dark times. People being accepted. They had equal roles and things.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Ian McDermond. Come on. Come on. This is his name? I was looking away first. Yeah. adjusting something. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Chung hun, bro. Look, I don't think there's a post-crack. John Will I am. We'll check it out. We'll try. mess up the watch along yeah no boogie miss marvel because you watched obi one he will definitely enjoy miss marvel at a pakistani new jersey girl you weren't upset about this show i think so i i think
Starting point is 00:04:45 miss marvel couldn't be enjoyed by anyone i enjoy both of them i think you can too but is it the one you watch after the finale yeah definitely it is for us for about to watch it i think so pallet cleanser yeah sure i think there's a crossover there all right that it's probably why they debuted them at the same time yes all that connective tissue yeah well i like miss marvel that's good show you like it oh it's great let's talk about that instead of this boring finale let's speculate on the episode of miss marvel to tell you know it has its own night to itself so shout out to miss marvel yeah dude just in time for attend nothing good in this finale am i right gang dude this
Starting point is 00:05:20 was awful all the right insult to the canon say yeah that was fun george lucas spat at my face Wasn't that just terrible, dude? Come on. I love the... I want you to say it. I'm not going to say it. Give it to us. Give it to the dark.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Not doing it. Giving it to the comments. No. No, I like that. I liked that, but not like quite a bit. That was good. That was a lot of fun. Epic-ass episode.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I love the, uh, the choreography of the fight was cool. That was bad. Yeah, it was way better than, uh, the first fight because they were both able to let the force unleashed, you know? so that was great yeah it was cool man i love the combination of like the grittiness of like the single shot camera but also like the cool like you know rolling around and you know kind of see uh prequel not sequel kind of the prequelish kind of choreography style too yeah i get what you were saying they're kind of a blend of a little bit of modern day choreography with the hyper kinetic style of the previous
Starting point is 00:06:23 fight of the of the episode three fight and but using a lot more of your their environment this time around home specifically rocks and boulders yeah yeah i mean it so visceral was i the only one who thought of uh um ang versus uh fire lord ozai uh when he in the final battle uh because because it's all spires and he's like grabbing rocks and he's like throwing rocks and he's like it's right he was basically earth bending yeah that's exactly what it was like wait a minute This is the finale of Avatar to Last Airbender. There's no connective tissue to get us from there to hear. Stealing a bunch of thieves, content thieves is what...
Starting point is 00:07:04 Even when Obi-1 picked up all the rocks, I was like, wait a minute, this is Aang. Isn't it Dave Filoni Avatar too? Yeah. Yeah, there you go. He's just borrowing stuff from itself. Well, I mean, I think the Jedi levitating rocks has never looked cooler than now. That was cool. That was really cool.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I mean, it was cool the way they set it up as far as him, like... you know breaking up and building up his power and then when he went ham and then the score was like oh yeah opened up all the rock and he's like oh got it all right well we got a lot to sort of digest but uh yeah let's do a little cut here and then continue talking about it all righty oh all righty by the way guys forgot to mention this we have uh we had any like reviews and uh you know discussions they go up on you can find the real rejects on podcast and anywhere podcast are found. Spotify, Apple, Music,
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Starting point is 00:08:31 don't try too hard to sell guys please please clap don't don't try too hard all right aces cases make the case for why Obi-1 Canobi so groovy I mean away
Starting point is 00:08:45 y'all saw it do I need to express my opinion yo watch the show shit you saw what I saw it was done It was dope, man. It was a lot of fun. I love the battle. The battle between Obi-1 and Vader was really cool. And it was really well choreographed. I like the setting. I mentioned before, very Avatar Last Airbender. I like the spires of Earth, the rock spires planet,
Starting point is 00:09:18 being used as offensive weapons. I thought that was a really cool concept as well. yeah um and yeah that battle was i mean it's sold pretty much the entire episode the appearance of quagon at the end was cool uh appearance of papa palps poppatine um popatine papa palps um was cool too because we got to see that interaction between him and vader at the very end to kind of showcase where vader is heading in his journey as far as following um emperor palpatine at the start of a new Hope. Shutting this shit down, journey. No, fine, I'll let Obi-1 go.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yep. So that way we can... What's the line that he has in New Hope? When he confronts Obi-1? Now he becomes a master? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was but the learner, but now I am the master. Yeah, I guess it doesn't mess with the canon, does it?
Starting point is 00:10:12 No. Everything messes with the canon. Because... Luke saw the lightsaber. Did he? I'm pretty sure. sure he must have got a clips. Did he?
Starting point is 00:10:22 I don't know. Speculate. You got to ask him. You know, he had a back turned. He was running. Luke, did you see that? Did you see that? Did you see that before he bumped your head, buddy?
Starting point is 00:10:31 Did you get it in your peripheral vision or anything like that? We're going to debate it for the next decade. I'm telling you. I kind of felt like where it ended is, was the, it's kind of the story that feels like would be the more necessary story to tell. I feel like, I'm like, that sounds new and interesting, whatever this path of this random journey he's going on with Obi-1 at the end. I mean, we still can't see it. I mean, I'll go, I guess, too.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, I feel like we will because, yeah, the season overall for me, because I like this finale, I really quite enjoyed it. And I was, I was waiting to see where it all ultimately, you know, emotionally hit me by the end. but really quick I mean I feel like you like Riva the most out of all of us you look like you were bawling your eyes out I was bawling but she did get me tear out Rivera! Riva! Oh my God! I'm so moved!
Starting point is 00:11:31 I feel for you, Riva! I'm so moved, Riva, I love you. Yeah, no, I mean she, I don't know, something about the way the emotionality of that scene played both in her performance as well as just that olive branch as he is sort of standing and And really inter, you know, it's like that scene plays out the way it needs you. Because of course, Owen and Brewer are going to be like, I mean, thanks for bringing him back, even though you caused all this just now.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Thank you. You know, we're going to go. But, yeah, that moment of Obi-Wan acknowledging her and that realization for as odd as her arc could arguably be over all of the episodes. For what we got here and for how it ties into her origin and all that, I thought it was quite a moving scene. Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit of a mixed bag for me.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It's a mixed bag for me. I'm like the odd man out here. Because, yeah, there's parts of her arc that are, this is just kind of questionable. Yeah. Of her methodology to going about this whole going against Vader thing. Like, she seems so committed to, you know, being an inquisitor, like so committed to being an inquisitor.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And, like, I'm going to kill Jedi. Where's Obi-Wan? Thriping up and what. And then you find out that now her whole plan just to get close enough to Vader to strike him down. And he must have had some point in the last 10 years to be able to get a little knock on him, right? I mean, especially considering when you see the moment,
Starting point is 00:13:01 she decides to go about it and then a bit of the plot convenience. Because I thought like, oh, Vader didn't kill her for a reason. Like when she just happens to live. Because, you know, I'm like, Obi-1 died, not Obi-1, Quigon died from a stab to the gut, right? She gets to live. Most people, too, from that stab to the gut. Yeah, I guess her arc was just a little bit, just raise some questions in terms of the approach. And there's...
Starting point is 00:13:29 I like the emotional portrait. I like the performance of her arc a lot more than I like the actual story points of her arc. Sure, that's a good way to put it. Yeah, I thought Moses Ingram especially grew on me as a performer, as the scene. and went along um overall that i do feel like i had fun watching this show i really did and i really liked episode five a lot i didn't quite love this show overall by the time all is said and done like don't i don't want a lot of people have very black and white thinking when you say something like that i liked it i did i had my issues i wasn't as moved by it as as i wanted it to be
Starting point is 00:14:12 And I didn't, it didn't quite give me the, didn't quite justify or necessitate the, the journey for me of like, why are we doing this when it feels so plot heavy? Like, okay, by the time they get to the moment where Obi-1 confronts Anakin, when his, you know, the mask is all sliced off, it's a great shot. And then he's talking with Riva and he's telling Riva and like, now you're free. we both are i felt like nothing in that moment because i was like yeah yeah no i i i get where you you're kind of you have to tell me what you're writing about but i already got it it's pretty clear it's really on the nose dialogue uh but it didn't it was this season is felt so focused on like moving plot along and i was like well i feel like that emotional beat in the purpose of this journey was that right was to get obi one to the point of accepting you know the resolve with the guilt that he's felt
Starting point is 00:15:16 this whole time especially to have a land a line like aniken lay down of it wasn't you who killed aniken it was me who did it you know like having that resolve was the thing obi one has needed so like okay i get what that's the whole point of this journey i suppose to to check in on obi one And that's why I was saying the stuff that feels like kind of new and refreshing and something that would feel like a coolness surgery is the stuff they were setting up for another season. Yeah. Because the way they talked about in interviews made it seem like, yeah, we might do a season two. Who knows, maybe.
Starting point is 00:15:48 But then I watched it. I'm like, you guys seem like you're clearly setting up a season two that you have to go about. So, yeah, overall, I liked it. It was fun. This is mainly an action episode. Sure. And I did feel lack of stakes throughout. It was cool, but I didn't really find the emotional pull as much as I was sort of hoping sort of get because, yeah, it just kind of lacked tension and intensity.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And it's even like with Riva hunting down Luke, like, it always looked cool. I thought that all that shit looked cool, like when she's hunting down Luke. And I like seeing Owen and Baru, like, look are you guys actually doing some shit. That's cool. but you know you're like that they're going to be fine it's fucking Luke Skywalker it's more about I think it was more about
Starting point is 00:16:37 what's going to happen to Reeva right I think that was like a big question in the air in this episode and if I cared more about her I would yeah then I'd be like yeah what's going to happen to her but I feel like that's maybe what they were going for as far as that
Starting point is 00:16:50 that entire scene is like is she going to get shot and killed is Obi-1 going to come in and take her head off is it going to be like you know like it was like anything it's anyone's guess right like if they did do that if they did have like obi one show up and be like this time i'll make sure you're dead like i would have been like okay cool i buy that if they had barouge shoot her in the head i would have been like okay cool
Starting point is 00:17:12 i buy that too like either way she exited the show i think was the bigger question as far as like how are they going to do it so yeah did you really you yourself like just on your own personal opinion like did you really like riva a lot to the point where you're like oh i really want to really care about her journey i liked her i i don't i don't know about like care about her journey but i i think you know i i think her story worked for what it was doing for the show and what she was kind of meaning for the lb one character because i think that was the point of it i don't know if it was necessarily to make us feel like this is another character that we're going to follow and now we're going to see her in season two like i don't think
Starting point is 00:17:57 that's the point at all i i think that's all wrapped up and done they're going to move on from that i think the point was mainly just to connect anakin and obi one together and she was kind of the connecting factor uh for that and i think the point of the show i mean for me right this is me talking um i think the point of the show was not quite to necessarily create something you know special and unique especially with the character like obi one that is so well known and on a planet that is so well known which is tattooing or at least we speculated that he would be on tattooing but i think it's mainly you and i and i really do feel like an underrated aspect for uh shows and movies nowadays uh is to bring a character a beloved character back with a beloved
Starting point is 00:18:47 actor who plays that character and who's known to be that character i mean we just have news for kid harrington returning as john snow like when you hear that you don't hear oh i'm so excited for john snoke you're not really like oh johns you're more like okay kit it's kit we we trust kit uh and that's more of what i think that show was this show was going for as far as you win because you win is like oh okay it's ewan mcgregor he's obi one let's see him be obi one and i feel like that's a big factor for a lot of prequel fans like myself wanted to to see Obi-1 return, mainly to see Ewan McGregor back because we know he's so good as Obi-1.
Starting point is 00:19:29 That's a good point. No, and I think, I guess I would say overall, I felt that it served that to a certain extent. I think I agree because Ewan McGregor is so good. He's good. He's so good. The performance of him is so good. Well, I thought the writing of this show was not,
Starting point is 00:19:49 could have definitely pushed I don't know about pushing the envelope but just got a little bit more intimate with his journey I think that the you know what I really think is a big factor is for a lot of people I've heard this sentiment of expecting it to be
Starting point is 00:20:06 something that feels a bit more meaningful or a bit more sweeping and I think when you name a show after a specific character rather than naming it a title you kind of create an expectation or an onus to do something of a character study.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And I feel like the amount of character studying and really truly intimate moments we spend with Obi-1 are some of the more effective moments and more rousing moments of the show, but they're also very few and far between. And it was like during that early scene
Starting point is 00:20:37 with him and Leah, when he's reassuring her, you know, as he's about to leave her on the ship and everything and why he has to do this, I was having that moment of like, I would like to be more moved by this. And I feel like... That's how I felt like. so much of the show yeah yeah yeah and it's like across the board it always looks I love what it looks like and I love what it sounds like you know the the production values are top top notch but
Starting point is 00:21:00 yeah I feel like there is kind of this expectation or or you know a sort of responsibility even to if you're going to bring the character back with an actor we've all been wanting to see you know is something that's a little less clearly focused on plot because it was also during this episode when Roken is like wait a minute You have a death wish. You want to go. Like, it's not even about us. And I'm like, cool.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I wish we could have gotten there ourselves instead of having to fast track and just have you tell us and then, oh, no, now we're thinking about that. Yeah, I felt like there were either character beats or emotional beats of scenes that were too much was kind of glossed over or just skipped entirely to the point where, like, a scene with Roken like that.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Like, when did this relate? relationship develop enough to the point when Rokka would be having this kind of, you know, straight confrontation with him about Obi-1's death wish with Vader, you know. So that was kind of the, that was just the quality that I was, I don't know. I mean, I would be, what I would be more curious about is to see what it would feel like to watch this in one sitting. Sure, yeah. To see, like, is this as messy as I think it is? Or is it just because we took a week, a break in between these?
Starting point is 00:22:18 if you binged it, yeah. A lot of people have mentioned if this was a movie as well, maybe cut some stuff that, you know, was just kind of filler in between and making more about the emotional journey like John saying. It also could have worked as a movie as well. I feel like that could possibly be a good point. It could have been like a good two and a half hour movie.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah. Well, wasn't that part of what the phase were in now is they were going to make a bunch of specific movies and then solo happened and they were like, we can never attempt that anymore, make everything shows because that's what's working now i think it was more the mandolian was so successful yeah um that i feel like they were like oh we got to pump up disney plus uh so let's transfer everything that we had planned for movies into shows i mean to be i'm not even joking i think that was
Starting point is 00:23:04 how how the mandolian got created was i mean they were going to do a boba fat movie and then they scrapped that with uh i think it was trink uh just trink Trink and then they... It was James Mangold. I think it was before James Mangold, which Josh Trank was attached. And then they were going to make a Boba Fett movie. And then they scratched that. And then John Favra was like, okay, what if we try Boba Fett, but don't call it Boba Fett?
Starting point is 00:23:32 Just create a character that looks like him, but he's a completely new character. And then that's how they created the Mandalorian. And they said, cool, let's do this, but let's do it in a show. So they created that for the show. Well, I think sometimes when you, already when you're dealing with Star Wars, you know, like the Star Wars cinematic universe is different than the Marvel Cinematic Universe because what you really adhere to with the Star Wars cinematic universe is a timeline, you know, and you have to be kind of, you know, like religious towards events and like what is canon, so you don't mess with the timeline. and and so you're already working within a box and then when you're bringing when you're doing a character returning one then you're even more in a box of what you can do with that character so like talking about instead of doing bobo-fet but doing mandolorean you're still working in the timeline box but now you get
Starting point is 00:24:28 a little bit more to kind of have some freedom to kind of do a little bit more and I think you know some of this was just feeling a bit kind of a lot of this was feeling like a little repetitive to me of like a bunch of things we've ever seen it feels a little episodic it feels it feels like other star wars stuff that i love it just felt like repetitive to me honestly yeah it teetered for me a lot because you know yeah you do have this sort of chase that swallows up a lot of the progress and we got to get a lot of places fast um and it and it ultimately sort of felt like it kept teetering back and forth between the best way i can put it is this feels like a chapter in obvi one story, but it didn't necessarily feel like the next pertinent chapter, except at times when it
Starting point is 00:25:15 really started to converge with Anakin and Darth Vader and where all that is now, like, the most personal aspects. And so, yeah, like what you're talking about with like, it's ending on a note of like, I kind of want to see, that looks really interesting and fresh and new. It sort of, yeah, has that quality of that could be like a definitive new adventure, whereas this almost feels like a slice of life that isn't actually presented like a slice of life. It's presented like a pile of plot details that have a bunch of things that you're
Starting point is 00:25:44 aware of and a bunch of tensions that come with this world. But yeah, ultimately it's just kind of whizzing by. Yeah, it was always fun to me. Yeah. As long as I'm not bored, you got a recommendation from me. I'm a pretty
Starting point is 00:26:00 simple guy like that. As long as I'm not bored, I'm good. You know? Well, and like five and six are those two, these two past episodes are like, this feels like the last two episodes of the show I was hoping for, I just wished the first four, kind of, we're on the same level because then
Starting point is 00:26:16 all the action heaviness of these last couple episodes isn't such a big deal, partly because, yeah, you've cleared all that emotional space to get to the punching and the fighting and the lightsabers. I thought it was cool to see Vader lose though in that regard. Yeah. So cool. It was cool to see
Starting point is 00:26:32 how that happened, because because I think the last, okay, I'm trying to think of the timeline here, you would know better than me. In episode four, he does have something before he confronts Obi-1 where he's like the last time
Starting point is 00:26:47 I felt a disturbance in the force. Is that what he says last time? I felt the disturbance in the force or something like that. Yeah, it was when my, a slight breeze. Yeah. That's when I felt a tingle in the force. No, I mean, he says,
Starting point is 00:27:03 when he saw obi one and it says um obi one we meet again at last um when i left you i was but the learner but now i am the master is what he says he says no he says only a master of evil do in the control room with with the with tarkin yeah he says something else to him and so i don't know i don't really honestly i don't really care too much about he mentions obi one yeah he mentions his last time i felt it was was obi one for sure yeah i guess what it was kind of i think the main thing that was missing for me was, you know, when he starts going like Force Unleashed your full badass, the kind of trajectory of watching him Ark, Obi-1 Ark back into that full-fledged Force Jedi just sort of felt a little choppy to me. Really? I thought it was perfect. I thought it was
Starting point is 00:27:50 okay. From episode three where he's like working his way. When episode two he was like crappy, I was going to say bad word. He was like really crappy at it. And then episode three slowly building up, working at it sweating a little more but he was still forcing it and then four five building up five he was like cooking a little more and then episode six tapping into that holding up all those rocks and then just thinking about um the kids uh luke and lea and then just really just going in all the way and showcasing what i've said since episode one which is what i've told you guys obi ones the goat like obi one of the most powerful jedi ever ever ever ever so we saw that and i think seeing that it was just worth the price of admission as a whole because this is like this is freaking
Starting point is 00:28:43 obi one man like this guy cooked vader cooked it and i was like this is vader like one of the most powerful force users ever and only one just like kicked his ass and i loved it because that's kind of what I personally wanted to see as an Obi-1 show was I wanted to see the Obi-1 who really can tap into the force and beat pretty much any single force user. And we saw that, and we saw that slow build-up of him from three to four to five, slowly work his way up to the force, and then obviously up to way to this episode where he fully tapped in and was back to his prime. Yeah, don't get me wrong. I love that whole fight. Yeah. I love that whole moment, especially.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah. Even when he is, like, thinking of his wise and goals. When it comes to the time, they're lifting the rocks. I guess for me, it's like when the show starts off where he's like, I can barely move a pencil. You know, like, I can't do anything force-wise. Sure. I was kind of waiting for that scene where he's like, you know, really trying to tap into the force to the best of his abilities. And then he's the true struggle of let me make maybe I can't get it.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Yeah, it's like, it seemed like there were, like, there's stuff contextually where I'm like, I kind of like that. It's more emotionally provoked to him. Like in the episode that everyone seems to hate as if it's the worst thing to ever exist in the history of humanity, the one one we're on the inquisitor ship. That's episode three, yeah. That's four. Oh, inquisitor ship, my bad, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you dumbass.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah, what kind of expert? Are you? Ace makes the worst case for a Star Wars expert, just saying, you. In your face, hey. It's true. Do you want to fight me? I want to say more bad words here. Cut the crap, guys.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Crappity crap. But no, like when he does stop the, you know. The water. Yeah. I guess like it's all, like, I think the thing is you pick everything. I don't disagree with what you're saying. I don't disagree with that. It's, I just kind of would crave a little bit more, you know, especially when you're, you know, a show about
Starting point is 00:30:55 Jedi like let's see a little bit more of those scenes that are more you know slowing down and reflective and getting to kind of rest a little bit more in the emotion that way that way we can see a little bit more of that internal journey because i as i'm talking about is i like how it is emotional situations that kind of propels him more to be back in tune with the force you know starting with episode two leo's about to die saves her episode four um you know when the water breaks through the glass and he's just like fucking full on And then episode five, he's got to save people. So it's like, he is getting these things.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So I'm like, that's what I mean. Contextually, I am getting what you're talking about. It's more just kind of a little bit of subjective execution I might have preferred on some other fronts. Because, yeah, I think like, I think it's technically there. So much of it is actually. So much of it is there in the beats and the plot points and the context. Yeah, it's just how they articulate all that stuff. True, very true.
Starting point is 00:31:55 But I feel like when it comes to something like the Force, it is something that's so already subjective in a lot of different films, right? No, there's a guideline. That's not how the Force works. There's a rulebook I have. How to use the Force for W? Yeah, my text! No, no, it, as someone who's seen Star Wars so many times, repeatedly, there is a lot of different ways that people tap into it. It could be a life or death situation.
Starting point is 00:32:26 It could be a situation in full rage, where you could tap into a stronger side of the force. Like, the force isn't just, you know, just a training montage or like... That's what we need it. That's what I was saying. I wanted it. Or still. Synth rock montage. Like, I really do feel like it can just come like that.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Like, boom, it just comes all right back. It doesn't necessarily have to be, you know, just like, oh. Obi-Wan, you know, training in the cave. Like, it could be in a moment. He just realizes like, oh, crap, this is everything I needed to come and realize to snap right back into where I need to be at the moment. And you're saying that moment, was it when he's trapped into the rubble? Yeah, and he can just be like, and then the force just comes right back to him.
Starting point is 00:33:17 He doesn't necessarily need to do this, you know, step-by-step process. Yes, he can just, just like we've seen in other forms of Star Wars movies and media, where the force can come into you and can come in the exact right moment that you need it to come. Like Ray. Yeah, like Ray. Yeah. So. Finn. Yeah. Or Finn. For Force sensitive. Finn.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Yeah, he's force sensitive. Yeah. I was going to tell. It's Ken Ray before he sunk in the sand. Yep. If only. Only she knew. She says it. Everything would have been different if she had just only known, crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yep. Poor thing. Sorry, I know that's your favorite Star Wars. It is. No, it's not. But still, number two. Number two. Like my bathroom, brits.
Starting point is 00:34:10 But no, I think it worked. That's just, you know, how I feel. But I do feel like it worked. But I also feel like when it comes to Star Wars media as a whole, I don't know, man. I think Star Wars fans are so critical. And it's just weird when it comes to, no, I'm not necessarily saying you guys. But I'm saying, like, we've seen The Mandalorian,
Starting point is 00:34:33 we've seen Book of Boba Fett, now we've seen Obi-One, we've seen the sequel trilogy, we've seen Solo, we've seen Rogue One, we've seen the prequels and the original trilogy. There's not a lot in any of those films that are necessarily doing anything that's like going against the grain and going against this. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:52 not like the edgy Star Wars movie. Deep character stuff. Yeah, there's, there's, it's, it's always like a tried and true formula that's followed, but it's done really well. And it's done in a way that people can appreciate. And it's done with different characters, whether it is a Boba Fed or a Dynjaran or an Obi-1 Kenobi. I don't think there's necessarily a disconnect between any of those three.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And I feel like if you're a fan of the Mandalorian, you can be a fan of, of Obi-1. And if you're a fan of the prequels, you can be a fan of Obi-1. the sequels as well i feel like there is a crossover between all star wars media that if you are a star wars fan that's been following it for a while you can realize like oh that's connecting to that that's connecting to this this is a journey here it's poetry it rhymes like george lucid says george lucas said um i feel like it's there and i don't necessarily understand when people are like but this isn't doing what logan did or what other media that i'm referencing scene did.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Deborah Chow said this would be like Joker. Yeah, but it's never quite. I think she did. Oh,
Starting point is 00:35:59 I. This is not. That was, that was Colin Travaro for Jurassic World. Didn't he say that for that?
Starting point is 00:36:05 He said his giganosaurus would be the Joker. I'm pretty sure Deborah Chow would say I think you're talking about Travaro.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Also part of the Star Wars extended family. The police Jurassic World Dominion delivered on the Joker quality. Did it?
Starting point is 00:36:20 Did it deliver her? much it did I feel like when it comes to Star Wars it's there you just have to see it and obviously if you don't want to see it that's fine and if you don't want to enjoy it that's fine but I just feel like there's never
Starting point is 00:36:37 really you can't compare this to like where's the Joaquin Phoenix Joker or where is the Logan or where is the Godfather part two it's like that's not what this is bro like this isn't what it was like it's not supposed to be that so Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Fair. I mean, I wasn't really coming. Oh. Why are you insulting us? I'm not insulting. Insulting you. You heard it here. I'm just joking.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Don't come at me. Put on blast. You know who you are. You know who you are. All right. Well, what would you rate the show out of 10? Ace. Off your heart.
Starting point is 00:37:17 It's top of the heart. Man, that's top of the heart. That's really tough. Subconscious, go. Use the force. I'd probably go an eight. Nice. Nice, ace.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I'm going to be all pitchfork media about it, and I'm going to say 6.8. Nice. Three to ten. I want to go super low. I give it like a... You're right. This is hard. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Why did I put the pressure on you? Take a decimal. Take a decimal, bro. I would say, I might meet you at. six point I'm I'm naturally just feeling a six point five that's what keeps when I come out of my mouth is a six point five I'm feeling like a six point five that's filled in like there's some really good stuff in there and there's just that extra you know the extra relief is just like ah and there's certain things I just wish reached a little further yeah definitely remember how they made full use of the inquisitors dude they're so good they do way more than just bicker and be petty that fight that moment didn't remind me
Starting point is 00:38:25 the Assoca moment and yeah episode of rebels when she yeah oh no no I'm just looking at John's answer for me
Starting point is 00:38:35 no Osca episode of rebels were you saying John oh no I think I've forgotten now because something about the inquisitor the inquisitor
Starting point is 00:38:45 that's a thing that reminded me of what you're talking about is people going like man the inquisitors they look silly like they just bicker and they don't amount to much.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And then I heard various people saying, like, well, that's pretty much the Inquisitor. That's, yeah. And that's an instance where I'm like, I didn't begrudge them that one bit. I actually found that kind of entertaining. That's kind of what they are in the animated shows as well. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I like, it took me a while to enjoy rebels,
Starting point is 00:39:11 if I mean, totally honest. That's another thing, like, I recommend you guys go back and rewatch Clone Wars and Rebels. Great shows, both of them, shows both of them have hell a silly stuff in it oh yeah yeah hells silly clom wars takes a while like like oh my god has this narrator who makes everything sound like a serial commercial i went back and watched the quinlan quinlas voss episode quinlan boss episode of repair yourself for when he would show up here yeah because i thought it was going to show up which he never did um and holy crap there's like um what's that guy's name zero the hut and zero the hut goes back to now huda which is
Starting point is 00:39:49 his home planet and he meets it and he's like hanging out with his mom and his mom is like got this southern like twang to her due to decline and then size snoodles is like cooking up with zero and size noodles is like a 1920s like uh like girl like who's like a dancer and she's like let me tell you zero a back in my planet and it's like this and i was like this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life. And people are like, this is my Star Wars. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:24 yo, go back and rewatch it, y'all. Like, this is silly. It's fun and I love it, but it's very, very silly. Yeah, but I think the final few episodes of Clone Wars are some of the best Oh, it's great.
Starting point is 00:40:38 It's ever been. Yeah. Yeah, but that, I mean, that's the new team, though. That was the new, the re-18. When they brought it back. Yeah, when they brought it back in. Yeah. But anyway, guys,
Starting point is 00:40:48 I love Star Wars No shit But Obi-1 guys Yeah Guys Let me see here Yeah he's Okay
Starting point is 00:40:59 He's dead All right Greg is texting I'm sorry I'm going to have two miss Marvel He's bouncing From the fucking show now
Starting point is 00:41:07 He's done forever He always leaves Coys Coeur is done Coy always bounces At the last minute When he does I'm gonna give him So much crap
Starting point is 00:41:17 in our intro It's going to be so funny. We're going to leave an empty chair. He's not going to watch this video, so I'm just going to tell you guys some inside baseball here. I'm just going to intentionally guilt him just for shits and giggles.
Starting point is 00:41:28 It's just going to make me laugh so much because he's going to feel so bad. I'm just going to find it so amusing when he's like, I'm sorry. I'm a terrible human being. Anyway, God, damn. I'll eventually tell him, like, I'm just fucking with you. I shouldn't have picked up the black phone.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yeah. Hang it up. Stop schmoozing coy. It's time to go to that after party if we can't watch an episode of television here. Oh. Call out. My pre-intro prep right now.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Shots fired. Guys, subscribe. Click that bell. Follow ace. And we got to end this with a Patreon. Anisa Oliva. Anisa You know
Starting point is 00:42:16 In a lot of ways She's like the Obi-1 of our Patreon You're so right about that We actually Anisa's been such a loyal follower Of ours for so long That she became an actual friend of ours
Starting point is 00:42:29 And then when she came out here to L.A., We hung out with her Nice And we thought she wanted something else And I was like That's not appropriate at this time That could lead us to getting canceled What a Patriot
Starting point is 00:42:42 And I was like Blank's Jesus, Nisa, you're pushing the limit. And she's like, whoa, Greg, that's not at all what I was getting at. You've got to push the limit to find it. You're being kind of creepy. And I'm like, oh, shit, and I have not put any of this in text message. I thought it was telegram so I could delete it.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But now she has it all in her phone of all the things. I thought she was insinuating. But keep in mind, I was, I was down to DMs. I was trying to prevent, you know, some creepy thing happening that you could use against us. That was my intention But I thought you were being It's a little forceful on us You were, it's your fault to me
Starting point is 00:43:21 So that's how you're like the Obi-1 Yep You're just too forceful You're always crossing lines You have no chill What's so ever We're like Luke and Owen And we're like
Starting point is 00:43:32 Back to that fuck Let's leave us alone With our water farm Just let us be in the desert What do you want? We're not trying to bother anybody All she wanted was to give you guys a T-16 sky
Starting point is 00:43:45 Toy Turns out there's a lot of ways to interpret T16 Sky I was like what is this position Oh no Nobody can't do that I can never do that with John That's uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:43:58 Damn What a patron call out You haven't heard anything Yeah stick around bro These guys have been pledged for so long Yeah at this point I need to no longer At this point they're numb
Starting point is 00:44:10 to what we would normally say so we have to go as outlandish, depraved as we can. But no, when we actually hung out, we went to, we went to Santa Monica Pier. Cool. Tricks are for kids? You know, we took her to a lot of games and shit. I want her to obnoxious amount of prices.
Starting point is 00:44:27 She just had to carry around. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. And nothing inappropriate happened that time, unfortunately for her. Anyway, thanks, Anisa. Heard it here for me. See you guys. Hit up real rejects in the DMs.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah, we will. They'll take you to send them on. We will. You want to miss out on the Ferris wheel? Let's do it.

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