The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: She Hulk Episode 1 - SERIES PREMIERE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: August 18, 2022

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John, are you excited? I'm very excited. Coy, you've read a comic. This is my number two most anticipated of the shows. A little too much information. Sorry. Because you tone it down, Coy, geez. We're trying to get to the episode.

I don't need to overhype this. It's going to be great. You guys? Hey, so if you're here, reactions is over at YouTube, but if you just want to hear a solid commentary where it becomes Koi's video because you know how it goes when he's here.

We're sorry. You're not sorry at all. You're not sorry at all. He knows how there's good. You're here for that specific reason. Just stick around and listen. All right, let's watch the show finally. I'm ready to give my closing argument now.

Snapdiggity. Where's Daredevil? You know, he'll be the lead soon. I thought he was the star. Looks like they set up that World War Hulk movie. Oh, yeah, I think we might see other characters like looking for Hulk maybe. She has a diagram for it. You mean the ship from Sikkar?

Sikar. Yeah, I wonder if someone's looking for a new champion. Or it could be his son. You think they'd do him, Sgar? Banged in the last two years. Come on, man. That's why they set it up with the game. Captain America Virgin thing.

She's like a L.A. based hero. We need them. We don't have them. I was going to say, the West Coast Avengers starting up. I don't know if I learned that. Oh, my God, we got a postcard. Steve Rogers did so much for his country and he never got to experience sex. Did you see that ass?

Like that ass? America's. Deserved a die virgin. Steve Rogers is not a virgin. He lost his Virginia girl in 1943 on the USO tour. I knew it. You're not drunk?

Captain America. Fuck. Natalie Dormer, Captain America. All time great. That was one of the best credits. I don't care what anyone says. That was one of the best ones.

It's an old timer. Oh, good. I said that and the turn of the reaction. I was like, I bet he bone someone during World War II, right? Yeah, I was thinking right back to that chat we have. The Nadeladormer scene.

I feel like they boned. The girl who was hitting on him in front of Peggy? Yeah. Yeah. Let's only talk about that. All right. Captain America. I mean,

this totally changes the integrity of his character. I thought he was dedicated Christian. Wait till Meritran. Cois' counter corner. What about Peri? Yeah. Cois Coital Corner Coital Comic Corner

Post Coitus Now we'll find out that Sam is actually the virgin of the Captain America On your left Virginia on your left All right

Well I enjoyed it I enjoyed it I think I got some things I don't want to be too positive Let's leave that to you guys Yes I'll be the edge lord here What's your negativity Greg?

Oh no I'm reserving it the negatives out of the way. I'm first-hand and get everybody on our side. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I'll reserve it. I'll be the one the fucking

douchebags that have a problem with women are mad at. I think the exact people that need to hear the things that she had to say are going to be the exact ones that get mad at this show and I'm glad they made it. I think that this character has been around

since the 70s. I think this was the... Oh, it's coming, but I don't give the fucking doubling down. Stan Lee made this character before he left and came back to Marvel. This was the last character Stanley made before.

he left and resumed, and Stanley was always about seeking inequality, uh, justice for inequality, seeking equality. Stanley was always about making sure that people felt like they were represented. And I think she Hulk somehow in 2022 is still terrifyingly relevant. So I love the fact that there were examples of how she would be superior in some ways. And that's going to be the biggest, we're going to see fucking Mary Sue commentary. We're going to see all sorts of like, why was she able to beat up the Hulk, all of that shit. And I think it's important to acknowledge that women do have to deal with anger and emotions.

differently and I think it's important to acknowledge that this is a character based on emotion. They literally invented the Hulk to be a force of what rage embodies a man. I think it was red was the original color that Stanley wanted Hulk to be, but the ink wasn't

as good, so it was green. And then gray happened because of a similar like printing quality issue. The Hulk has always represented what it's like when you can't control rage. And I love the idea that She-Hulk represents like, yeah, they are better at controlling anger than we because they have to because society says

don't be emotional woman so I loved the first episode have you met enough women I don't know any women because what's a woman they're out of control they're lying to you coy

that's part of their master plan to gain control of the world they're constantly think they're oppressed I constantly thinking the way I talk about them is it's upsetting and I'm like cool your horses ladies yeah smile a little bit smile a little bit from my pussy cats.

Come on. How creepy can we make this? Yeah, I'm like, I'm a comfortable just hearing it. Just receiving it. I'm like, I'm not going to guess on that. I'm going to stay over here, right here. Fourth wall break of silence. I just love how you, I just love how you kicked off with that as if that was going to be the thing I was going to say. How did it issue with it?

No, no. Because you are the anti-woke mob, Greg. I'm kicking off with the thing that's going to be everyone's commentary. I'm kicking off what I think we're going to see on what Friday. This drops on Thursdays. I think we're going to wake up to Twitter on Friday saying all the shit I just said. So I'm kicking it off with like what's going to be fucking trending. Yeah.

No, I mean, that's already happening before this ever came out. It's a female-led superhero show. It's going to happen. No, I mean, I do. I appreciate the context of them. Well, since this is the first subject, I guess we're going there. Since, yeah, I do appreciate the context of that. I do think that I was having a little bit of issues with the pacing at first, and I kept kind of like Marvel forgiving it.

That's how I call my forgiveness in Marvel sometimes, which is like, this is her narrative. She's doing a flashback story, so it's just going by a little quick from my taste. It's going by a little fast, and then I did, like, I don't mind the context of that at all. It was really, the parts of the way it was written seemed like, okay, so all her anger is only based in the fact of how men treat her? of these little things So some of it felt a little bit I would have liked to have seen anger be more than just that

Yeah I agree with you Yeah that was main that was my quam with it Not like freaking you're throwing shit in my face It was more like It's a little Would it be more nuanced And more layered And I'm sure that's an aspect of your anger

But maybe not the entirety of your rage Yeah like a corrupt court system A Yeah The world at large being problematic Beyond just men in it Like, yeah, there are other things. Yeah, and so some of it was moving a little bit faster me.

Because overall, there's a lot of liked about it. Like, I think, and I feel like you would attest to this, this is me looping John in the conversation. Say how I did that guy. Look at that leading the conversation. Do I see even notice? Why he sits in the middle. The was that. I really love Tatiana Maslani.

That's her name, right? Yeah. I think she's excellent. I think the way how they've got in, you know, Ammon. Valani and Tatiana. Women get easier names so I can't remember them and pronounce them easier. Why can't they all be Tessa Thompson? Yeah, something simple. Like a Jane or something right now. Amon Valani and Tatiana Mislani. Wow, there's a real ring to those. I think they've done like amazing casting with both of them here. And she is excellent. Like instantly. So immediately endearing.

Like you do buy the history that, oh yeah, she has been his cousin, her whole life. Right. They might have met a year ago. Like, we don't know when, like, maybe they were friends, but they could have met a year ago. When the actors met each other. Because, like, they do embody that history, and there's such a natural chemistry with them, like you were pointing out when we were watching again, Looping John in, was that they have that history with each other. And I think she already brings so much life to this character.

And I'm enjoying what they're doing with, like, her having this dichotomy that I think is an actual pretty... I think it's a very realistic dichotomy. The way how you have, like, Spider-Man, like, I want to be a teenager and go to school, but fuck, I'm a superhero too. And then she's already dealing with that complexity where, because, like, this is something that just kind of happened to her,

and she has to throw her whole life away when her whole purpose was driven off of her career, especially, like, a lawyer in Los Angeles. Like, that's really going to be a thing that, this is everything I've dedicated my whole existence to, and now I've got to sacrifice that. Like, how can I make both of that work? I think that is a really,

interesting thing to explore. I do think in terms of the She-Hulk side, God damn. The second the thought came, I was like, oh, no, people are going to think

I'm saying Mary Sue. And I'm not saying that. I'm saying that I do think at times it was coming. Maybe it's like this in the comics is maybe that's my Marvel forgiving way of doing it, guys. That's how I forgive all Mary Sue's out there.

Well, I think personally. Sources. I think they wanted to get to the lawyer stuff and not to be a training show. She did kind of pick up on everything. a little too quick for my taste, though. You know what I mean? I don't disagree.

And I like what you said about more than you just mad at me. Like, there's other things to be mad at. I don't disagree with either of those things. Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like there is a... John! Hey guys!

Hey, guys! A, Luke, man, with an opinion here. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, I do think that there is a bit of a bingo card, unfortunately, that people are going to be sitting there checking off in their own little rage cage. And that was something that made me wonder because, yeah, I mean, it's obviously, a very self-conscious aspect of the conversation surrounding any female-centric content, anything

like this that involves power. And it makes me wonder if they're going to use it in any way or extrapolate on it later because, yeah, like I shared a lot of the same kind of just a little earmark notes. And what you call Marvel Forgiveness, I also call, like, comic book forgiveness. There are certain, like, you can, I feel like in a comic book specifically, you can more sort of easily throw out like a big outlandish high concept thing and have it be like, oh yeah, one minor detail

in a sequence of many. But I want to see what they make out of that because the strength for me was, yeah, I liked all the scenes fast though they were moving. I liked, you know, the conversations, the rapport between the two of them. Like, I think this really sings in terms of character.

But it does make me wonder because there are so many things that people actively whinge about constantly, about Mary Sue's and other things. that are all like very much displayed here in a way where I'm almost like I wonder if that's intentional partly to rile up the people who are going to complain about that but also maybe they will you know use it as something in the story form to extrapolate upon or something or at least that's my hope as this goes forward yeah because right now what I think they've been a really good job

at fleshing out nothing really external struggles have we really got into it's like oh she had a she had an issue to deal with and seems like she's getting really excellent handles on the issues really fast in terms of the physical stuff what they've really done a good job of fleshing out is her internal struggles and to me that is arguably more important I don't even feel like it's arguably I feel like usually it is more important than than the physical side of things like so I really I really like one aspect of what they're doing I think the acting is really good I think the comedy for the most part is really hitting and I like I like the way they've set up like for if you look at it just as a as a pilot i think it's a really set up

strong where oh i i wonder what the journey is going to other than my trailer knowledge i wonder what like the journey will be and what it's going to feel like episode to episode moving forward i really enjoy the fact that it feels like episodic tv i really like that some of the marvel shows have been like we're going to be a long movie cut in parts and other shows have been like we're trying to tell a story and sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't this feels like a show and i kept marveling at how impressive the cg i was uh because of the show budget is you know different between shows and movies and this is something airing on Disney Plus and I was really impressed at the fact that it looked like a Hulk like I

really enjoyed Hulk on screen she Hulk definitely got a lot of improvements from the trailers and there is an inherent um uncanny valley to something that has a brooding brow and stubble and more texture than you know a Hulk we're used to versus a seven foot woman that's effectively green like it's harder for our brains to go like that's almost what a person looks like versus that's a Hulk and the Marvel Mark Ruffalo mapping has had more years to do it so it makes sense that the Hulk looks

a little more fleshed out pun intended than the She-Hulk because they've only had like the six months to work on it we've been hearing all about the visual effects stuff at these major studios and all these things like developing in real time what are you talking about there's some anger there's some frustration no dude they're just

they're overpaid at those places but I think that what they're able to do from trailer 1 to now they're just sitting around but from trailer one to now like just willy nilly drinking pinia coladas appreciated respect you know local CG artists we love you but like how impressive

is it like they announced this show what a year ago we saw the trailers and there was a lot of like you know upsetness and now this looks great like I was impressed I love the way it's shot I love the tone I love the pacing there is a little bit of patient issue with the speed of the montage but I think it effectively set up a show that

is now going to have uh we have a relationship between Bruce and Jennifer established. We've got, you know, how much she loves her job, and now we can have a lawyer show. And we have the setup for World War Hulk. And maybe the set up for War Hulk. No, yeah, and I think it, I mean, not to overshadow the theories,

but no, I think it, like, as it got into the second half of the episode. You want to talk about the actual episode? And not the future. Do you want some Easter eggs? There's a me, there's out. There's an Can we just break down the finale now? If it's not this, I don't like this show.

These expectations. Give me exactly what I wanted. There was no Daredevil at all. Where's? Yeah. I'm sorry, John. But no. Talking about Daredevil.

As we got to the, I mean, I'm curious about how that stuff is going to go because a lot of the Hulk action I thought looked really good. And then the titanium scene at the end was a little bit like, oh, I hope we can kind of make these action scenes feel as good as those action scenes. But for the most part, the second half of the episode felt really smooth and like we reached this cruising altitude where like it didn't feel so fast in. more. So I'm hoping that, yeah, maybe that's just getting used to the pace of the show overall. My three biggest flaws are all, and this is Marvel forgiveness, comic forgiveness, but my three biggest flaws are definitely the fact that she did learn as quickly. I like that she is more adept, but there is an element of like, okay, I would have liked to seen some pitfalls in the training. Like every time they cut to her, they were like, and success. I would have like to

see some like build up to success just for like the hero's journey is to learn how to blank. And then I did have an issue with the Titania fight looking like lesser, but I also feel like two CGI characters always going to look better since CGI was invented. But it was weird that like, so I agree with that being an issue. And I don't know how they're going to do that with Daredevil, because Daredevil shouldn't be CGI. Like I hope that, you know what I mean? So that's going to be a thing. And then third, I do definitely feel like they at points were making her only mad at the audience that is going to be mad at the show. But in a way that it gives them more ammunition.

The MCU crowd has plenty to yell about. I don't necessarily think that it's good to poke the bear. Well, that's why I'm hoping that they will use those things. Are you talking to the women who made the show? Yes, the women, yes. Let me tell you guys how to do your job. But no, for those people who are going to be freaking out. They're already going to be freaking out.

You see it, you watch an episode like this and you think, okay. It's working. It's working. If this is the thing that makes you upset and that causes you to take to the internet and, you know, harass people, you know, this episode is probably going to set you off and repel you immediately to the point where you're probably not going to make it to episode too. So it's just a curiosity for me of what the intent is and what the awareness level is of that. Because I think, yeah, it's like this is a good place to have some of these conversations and it's a good character to mix with these, you know, experiences and stories, you know, while in the high concept setting. But yeah, like, in this sort of post, post, post-woke, post-Marie Sue world, that we live in. I feel like you almost have to bring a certain level

of additional awareness or else you are just making it clear like, no, this show is only for no, she was a guy I would have the exact, I hope whoever's been a viewer of us long enough now knows that we are being honest

when we say, if that was a guy, we would have the exact same quops. And I don't want them to coddle to assholes by making it anything less because that's the character, but I also don't want a character in any training montage to not learn as a montage.

Yeah, it makes it less interesting and less cathartic and rewarding. It's just like, I'm just kind of watching amusing stuff now. And it's always, it's like the philosophies and stuff and her whole thing about the reasoning of why she is so adaptable. Like, it all makes sense. And I hope people are able to see the themes past the surface level stuff. But I think we're going to be getting a different struggle for her actually, hopefully. Yeah, no struggle. I've adjusted at this pretty well and everyone loves me.

I like law and justice and being a home. Now I'm a very successful lawyer. I've climbed my into the table. everything's great everything's great yeah and uh going off of the vfx i think that i think what they really got a handle on

with her um is the when they were like keeping her a little shadowed when it was really bright like like we're just out in the bright sun on a beach that's when i'm like okay it's it's still like but i there's not marble

forgiveness this is just a ffx artist struggle forgiveness and knowing everything that's been coming out, which seems to be so compounding at this point, I am like, I'm not really going to harp on it anymore. I can tell that's a she-hulk. Yeah,

like, that's nice. Now I'm so aware of the conversation surrounding it that a lot of the time I'm like, that looks good, looks good, looks good, that doesn't look so good, that doesn't look good,

now it looks good, it looks good, it looks good. This is a living, damn it, freaking conversation is just going off in my head now when I'm watching it. This gave me the experience I hoped for where it is like,

it is in a lot of, of ways like a piece of makeup. It's like I can tell they probably, there is a performance happening. They use probably the eyes especially to bridge the gap. And yes, some sequences look better than others, but even with a great prosthetic, sometimes you can sit there, go, I can tell it's a prosthetic. But the performance is endearing and all the scene work is great. So I saw past that pretty easily. Yeah, because you're a better man than me. And I was aware that women made all the VFX on this show. All women, man, they can't do it. I have no idea who made the VFX They're small braids, gee, they can't do it.

That's why the CG takes so long. Anyway, guys, what did you think of SheeHulk? If you've made it this far, leave your thoughts down below. Do you think Koi's a sexist? Hashtag Koi's not a sexist. Hashtag soy Koi. It's going to go so well for me. No worry.

I can tell. I'm excited for this to air. The one thing I'm looking forward to most is the public discourse surrounding what should otherwise be a very pleasant experience. Just a happy, good show. We'll have nine weeks of content, and so we'll assert another side of the internet. We'll have nine weeks of content and don't actually watch the show. Subscribe, leave a like.

Let's do a patron of the day. Shout out before we get the hell out of here. Yeah. All right. Anisa Oliva. Number one, Mary Sue at the Patreon. If there's anyone who's a Mary Sue at our Patreon page, it's you. Everything comes so easy to you.

You're just so great at everything. You're so smart and tough. You don't need to work hard at all. All money just, you just open up an envelope and like, look at all my boatloads of money. You don't have to work too full-time jobs. You can capitalize alcohol at a greater rate than a normal person. You don't have to sacrifice weekend hours in order to just to freak it pay off some bills or help out with the family. No, everything is just easy, peasy, breezy for you.

And all you do is bitch about men. That's a niece. Patron God, we love you. No, Nisa, we love you. You're a tough ass cookie. You struggle and are a nuanced character, too. Say something nice, Coy. I don't know you, but I like your name, and you've got a lot of vowels in it.

That's good. Yeah, like Tatiana Maslani. Or Aman Vloni. Or Coy Jondro. Or Mark Ruffalo. See? Easy to remember. You added some A's in there.

He's out of them out. He's to remember Marvel actors. Mark. I'm going to call you Tot. People are going to think I'm calling you tits. I'm going to get so much trouble. Chris. Chris Maslani.

There's not enough chrises in the MCU. I like making jokes that are very minimally provocative. I'm just so minimal. And then I read the one wrong comment. I'm like, I've done pissed off someone out of their feelings. I've done fucked up. It's got to be on it. It's going to be all right.

All right. Let's end this. Bye. Regulate your feelings.