The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: SHE HULK Episode 7 "The Retreat" - Review!!

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

EMIL BLONKSY RETURNS and still No Daredevil! She Hulk Attorney At Law Episode 7 Reaction, Recap, Breakdown, & Review as Jen visits Abomination where she meets Man-Bull, Porcupine, El Aguila, the vampire Saracen, the return of Wrecker from the Wrecking Crew + Easter eggs, references, Josh villain reveal, & MORE!! #SheHulk #Marvel #MCU #SheHulkAttorneyAtLaw #Disney #DisneyPlus Follow Coy Jandreau on Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?lang=en Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions + SHE HULK Watch Alongs! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Proudly Support Your Reject Citizenship By Checking Out Our Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Podcast listeners of the Reject Nation, we are going to watch SheeHulk episode. Really? What episode? Seven. I made a whole joke in the YouTube. Yeah, all right. Just get ready to listen to us. Talk.

Seven? Oh. Props to Anuvalli. That recap made it way too of. Yeah, I know. The sinister music. They perhaps. should not have spoon fed us, the evil Josh plotline.

It's one thing disrespected. It's another thing to be like, yeah. Also, it wasn't like the beginning of the season. It was like the last episode. It wasn't like we'd forgotten Josh. We just met Josh. They're excited to see that pay off, yeah. Remember this guy from five minutes ago?

Well, he's evil. Remember him and remember the Big Bab. Evil? Evil. Same show that gives us Frogman, gives us porcupine. Madador. Junior varsity, my man Hurting for a girton

Porcupine's one of my favorite supporting characters in Jessica Drew Spider Woman and one day One day Yeah, get that laundry done Dude, go to Luke Anderson That's Sarosan characters Sounds so familiar

Well, we got more vampires in the MCU Day by Day The key is related to like a street level Hero Or connected to I don't tell us if there's not a post-credit scene You never know Something tells me

That it's not going to be a post credits Georgia let's see it Yeah We got what we wanted the Georgia They got those text We got the Georgia logo Always want that post credit scene about Georgia It's funny you know

If there's something that just does subconsciously to your brain That if they place that Josh moment After the credits Suddenly we love that post We feel rewarded with a Credit scene. Love that acquisition of blood post credit scene.

Three days earlier. I was going to say. Place it a little different and you're like, give us. I got what I want. Give us five credits. They're going to, we're going to want to wait for that. Five credits. Boom. Post scene.

I got some opinions about this episode. Let's talk about it. All righty. Well, that was an episode. It was. All right. It's going to, it's going to, I'm on a, I'm going to roll here with you. the unpopular opinions.

He swings two. He swings fro. He swings two. I know last week I was like, I can tell people I'm really going to like this episode. I thought it was a lot of fun. And then this one in particular, it was an interesting journey because in the first few minutes before, you know, they go to the abominations camp, I was like, okay, this might actually be one of the most purposeful, stylistic choices. And there's such a great grip on the tonality. of what they're capturing here like we don't have time to like go into the whole

backstory of josh get all this dialogue so let's just show their romance brewing through the visual language and i thought it was really well done and like you reference or one of you guys that miss marvel when they were doing their stylistic choices which references scott pilgrim versus the world so they were they had a good grasp on all that and then around the time they they show up at emil blonski's place you see you guys got to understand something if you're watching this on YouTube versus patreon.com slash the real rejects you are watching reaction highlights so what you guys probably saw was the moments where all of us really enjoyed some of that stuff with everyone it's the way it's cut up because it's reaction highlights and so we're cutting around that where but though

i'll be honest like it progressively got annoying to me and and it was it really felt like a bad parody it felt like when you know SNL does a sketch of like the Avengers and it it didn't feel like I didn't care for any of the chemistry with anyone none of them sound like real characters it all sounded like bad comedy writing to me like just straight up bad comedy writing

with a with a random albeit great performed monologue from Jen and somehow by placing it in this episode weirdly that monologue was not feeling earned to me so as great of a performance as it was, I wasn't as connected to it as I was really craving to be, craving as I was

craving to be connected to it. This came in it was great. Yeah. I imagined him in that session. They would have just they should reference some of the people there. Because yeah, we confirmed it. Manble. Manble. Daredevil. Daredevil. Excellent poll, man. I have not thought of man. I've heard, I've heard a bunch of rumors of people who might appear in this show. All of them have come true so far. All those thing episodes. And Manble was one of one of those things

if I remember learning about Jason Siegel crushing at his thing doing the work Manbo was one of those things

I remember learning about Daredevil I'm like oh interesting Sue Storm so yeah I didn't and also

the Amio Blonski thing seemed to I get the choice you know that someone might change after several

years in prison or however long he's been there be reformed I get it and there was something about

that felt more enjoyable to me when you had a sneaking suspicion that there might be something like false about what he's doing and the way he's presenting himself. That's what made it fun. And then for me in this episode, when you're like, oh, it's genuine.

Okay, let me roll with this. I'm like, this is not fun anymore for some reason. And somehow I feel like you're robbing us of abomination and a great character. Although they did show in the trailers that there's supposed to be another moment where it is abomination of it is if it's just going to be some joke like this to me sort of feeling

like the thing i've heard people complain about of where you are making it because this wasn't like you know how people sometimes defend this show with like guys you get it just like a sitcom show you know it's what i'm like this didn't feel like that to me this felt like a bad parody and with a random couple heartfelt moments so yeah uh this was uh this is this is probably the one i like the least out of every episode we've seen so far um But that's just my opinion. Coy. Roll the dice.

Go, I, uh, you know, I felt like this episode was a, this isn't for me episode. And I, I've really been looking at the enjoyment of, you know, the Marvel cinematic universe as you go into phase four. And it's been really interesting comparing it to other phases where I was like, oh, this is all for me. Not everything in phase four has been for me. And I've, I think I've made myself enjoy things in a different way where I was like, oh, I don't usually like sitcom. Maybe this is a gateway to sitcoms and some of the episodes work in that vein and some of them don't. This one did not quite work for me I found myself like wanting to laugh and then having that hollow moment of like where I'm like oh no, that's not a laugh. That's me trying to use my diaphragm again and it just didn't feel like I was experiencing humor. It felt like I was trying to experience humor and that's not to say it's in any one thing the writing directing the acting certainly not the acting. It's a toned thing. So,

I get why choices were made. I understand what the goals were, but it felt like, okay, I can understand the choices and the goals, but it doesn't mean they worked. So I kept seeing a lot of pole vaulting and no landing. I love Porcupine, one of my favorite characters in the modern comic era, because he's so sweet and endearing. And he, so the arc I love with Porcupine is in Jessica Drew, Spider-Woman. It is two arcs ago, roughly 2016, 2017 Spider-Women comic.

She's a single mom, and my mom raised me as a teen mom, and it means the world to me to see strong women superheroes. Sometimes have kids, and, like, that's a very specific, too-coi thing. So this run on Jessica Drew means a lot to me. And Porcupine comes in, and he basically starts babysitting her child out of the kindness of his heart, and then they grow to have a romance together, and it's out of the authentic sweetness of the character. Trust me, this makes sense, and is worth this rant about the comic character. And all of these things make you care about porcupine more and more, even though he's been a ceiless villain, even though he doesn't have the direct chemistry of Jessica Drew, even though Jessica Drew has been duplicitous her whole life, her parents are spies, she has a lot of messy backstory, she was a scroll.

All of the things endear you to him more because of his open heart. That can't exist with this version of the character because now we've met him as a simpleton that felt like it was joking at porcupine, not with porcupine. I want to laugh with porcupine, not at porcupine, and now the character that I really appreciate can't really be used in that way. And I feel like that about everything in this dynamic. A lot of these generalities undermine the integrity of characters that are even aware of their ridiculousness.

Yeah, like I don't even really know these characters. They were used as a punchline, but they're not all. Like you immediately get the sense that even if you don't know these characters, that this feels like a parody of it. them. Right. And I'm like, that's a proper. Yeah, that's not how you bring me. Like, what are you doing? Like, the kind of dialogue they were given them is like when you pluck a popular character and you give them like this relatable, hey girl, like, it felt like a Prius commercial, not only because they said Prius Prime, but also because it felt like one of those shots where you have this really well lit room. There's a lot of things that are funny in a circle. And like that felt it had moments of pure sketch. Yeah. This is an interesting episode to me. Partly because I think, yeah, the conversation surrounding comedy and how it relates to the MCU is quite interesting because if you're trying to reflect comics, yeah, I get the characters go through different iterations and are presented in different ways, depending on who's writing them and all that stuff. And I feel like this show kind of, I can feel that under a microscope with this show, and I wonder if we get more things like this, if it will feel more natural in retrospect. but this was an episode

that I'm kind of torn on because I largely found the experience of watching it relatively charming but it felt more like a comic strip or something more slight I guess and yeah you start off with this really dynamic opening sequence a lot of visual storytelling

a lot of stuff that relies on you know just like filmmaking rhythm and energy and snap and then you get part way into the episode and then you and I don't even begrudge at this structurally you remove your from our main world by going out to this compound

and then the whole pace changes and yeah you get a lot of goofy jokey stuff and it made me think about last week because Mr. Immortal you know I feel like that's an example perhaps not that I know

the backstory of the character but a genius way to yeah I think so it felt like a character who you yeah so consistently who you meet every time he came back

I was like yes yeah and you meet that character and that character is obviously very quirky, heightened, and a bit ridiculous, but has such a clear perspective of his own that even when he's clashing with the room, you can tell, no, no, no, this is how this character

is very well-defined and well-drawn, and yeah, here I felt like they gave each... It was like I was in an improv show, and every impover got a character, 10 minutes to back, research, backstory, and then it was kind of like watching the show that you judged at the UCB,

the, you know, the... Oh, yeah, yeah, whatever that, yeah, character's squaring off. Tournament of nerds. It kind of felt like that. And yeah, so it's like... Remember nerds is way funnier in this. Sure, and I mean, I think they derive an interesting...

For me, they derived a semi-interesting blend of, okay, I guess I don't quite believe that all these things are as innocuous as they seem, and thus that's creating a certain tension, but I guess the further we get the more, I'm just like, well, like you said, okay, I guess Emil just is this guy now, which to me I think is charming because he is so charming. at it. Tim Roth was always charming even though I didn't always love what it was happening to have him be charming. I was like, Tim Roth's crushing this.

Yeah, and I feel like you could make use of that moving forward and you could even I feel like my problems are less with his maneuvers and how that was written and blah blah and how that was performed than it was more with everyone around them. Yeah, I'm feeling

more like, hey, let's just grab some Madcap characters from the DNC list and just kind of throw them in there. and... This made me more excited for Jen Walters in Captain American New World Order, which is the rumor.

This made me more excited to see her in other things because I kept being like, wow, charming, funny, stunning, awesome. Like, I kept having those moments with She-Hulk, but I didn't enjoy

the show episode enough that I was like, it made me want more She-Hulk as I've experienced, but not more of this. I feel like they had I feel like they had enough time. It's like,

I think what you said is also very sharp because I was like in a better episode I would feel more emotional about Jen's little breakthrough and I feel like they had enough time in this episode to really sell that with actual character beats that might have been humorous rather than

doing what feels like taking a lot of time to do bits basically and then spending a lot of the time on that it's like you can feel the plot but then the character journey feels very thin and very comic strip because of that. Yeah. One note quirk jokes about everyone

I get it, yeah, he thinks he's a vampire We should use that three times Go a little deeper We should keep going It felt like they kept going Yeah, I think there's a lack of I think overall with the way this show is making Because there's seven episodes

And there is a quality to this show That does feel like there's a bit of a lack of focus As much as I've been having fun with it Like I feel like the three of us have enjoyed this show way more than like It seems like a lot of people Check out our YouTube comments They're full of enjoy

enjoyment from all. So when I, when I was watching this, and then when she did get to that speech, it did have me going, I feel like throughout these six episodes, we really haven't explored this struggle that she's had, because this is so heavy the way she's delivering this. And I feel like the show hasn't done that great of a job.

It's like there are moments you can pinpoint to it. It's more of an emotional association with the way these scenes have been delivered and the aura of these of the emotional struggle because i've always picked up on it i've we've talked extensively about like what she's going through uh underneath the surface but yet the weight of that hasn't really been spread out in a way that allows that scene to land of oh she's finally making that breakthrough because i was like i feel like we were just still building that shit up i didn't i didn't think we were already at this point where she's like to what do people like about it like it seemed like we were so there and i didn't

really feel like we dealt enough with the struggle other than you know they it's like yes i i know you can pinpoint the things of like yeah she got the career through she hulk um the guy who slept with her who she was really into slept with she hulk instead of her i still and then the thing what they do with jen often seems to be like people treat her like she's a a nuisance randomly which doesn't really make sense because she's so like it's the one i mean you see that's a joke everywhere but like the most unbelievable bit of writing for she-hulk is that no one would fall in love at tatan as long yes like what a staggeringly perfect woman that's the problem i i have with that monologue of like getting to this point in the show is they've done such a good job at showing that one side

of like yeah people kind of prefer to like spend time with she-hulk yet there are parts of gen that i'm Like, but what is, I don't see enough of Jen struggling as, as Jen, other than some real quick, cliche stuff. And usually fairly quickly solved, like usually the Jen stuff is like, all right, by the end of the episode, we started that out, 22 minutes. I will say, though, I like positives. Whoever's training, Tatsyla Mislani, and the work she's putting in, she has such incredible definition. And her obliques in this episode. Her body. Just to a women's fitness breakdown.

I just, to have that dealt with tricep combo and the obliques and the leanness and the way she doesn't look bulky, the athleticism is just spectacular. The other thing. I love how. We got to talk positives.

I got, and the first thing you do is go, let me tell you how hot that woman's body is. That's the only good thing going all right now. I'm proud of her work. She's put in the work. You could tell, a lot of effort, a lot of hustle,

a lot of work, a lot of diet restriction is very hard to look that lean. Good job Tatanos for learning. Yeah, she's in great shape. That's my positive. This also did give me an interesting pang because we spend a lot of time in the group circle and part of me, half my brain

went, I wish we would spend this much time in any of those courtroom scenes and then B when you said that I was immediately like, God damn he's right. Because it is like way more at least immersed in that but also they have a great opportunity with record showing up to actually confront something that's real and that's like kind of difficult in actual life which is like oh hey this is actually like a person who's directly attacked me and now they're trying to reform and now I'm being asked to like be sympathetic towards them that's a like a big conversation that I think you could handle both humorously and seriously and I feel like that's something that in the spirit of the show with it's plugged in as they seem to want to be about just the day and age the show exists in the kind of cultural debates we're

have especially surrounding, you know, like the treatment of women and stuff like that. I feel like that was an opportunity they didn't catch as well as they could have because it's charming, again, as I found that odd character turn and the weird suspicion that it kind of guides you on that journey with. At the same time, I was like, ah, yeah, I wish you would take these opportunities, even though this is a sitcom to like, you don't have to do a very special episode but like actually do do the meat of that because then that will also bolster tangentially you know the whole gen she hulk you know mixture storyline anyway the emotionality of that i know there's a slant that comes with the word sitcom as if that means like just stupid jokes

but there's been some great sitcoms out there where there are very fleshed out characters and i think they could have had that moment the moments with those characters not be just the oh yeah i thought that was really uh i was like oh no show what are you doing it's bad because it's a better bad sketcher right like the whole the second man bull showed up i was like oh i kind of recognized someone yeah good good for you craigra point first appearance though come on of man bowl i'm impressed i think it's better to surprise and it can be more funny i think to surprise yeah with an actual moment of vulnerability or character beat than just a joke that therapy that not therapy thing

But, because, yeah, they make a mockery of a meal, first off. Yeah, it felt like laughing out and out with again. And that's kind of my thing with Porcupine. It didn't feel like we were laughing with, which I did. I am upset about, can you not feel my rage against his porcupine? You are going to be on intelligentsia to be in a second. And when you mess with my boy, porcupine, who only wanted to take care of Jessica Drew's daughter, who only wanted them selflessly, I might add,

porcupine he's all soft inside he may be spiky on the outside but inside he's all goo hashtag not coy's porcupine not my porcupine i thought that whole thing could have had heart sure and it lacked that's what i wanted from that whole dynamic that and that and we felt that a few times like when we have negatives about this show it's the lack of seriousness and it's not like marvel doesn't know like obviously it's everyone's different creative team but it's not like they don't know how to balance comedy and drama typically and yes this is a different tone but As you're saying, sitcoms don't mean thin. They just mean

situational comedy. These are situations wherein there can be comedy. That's what you'd like. Well, Kevin Faggy spread too thin, and Blades's only 90 minutes. I know. Is that the thing? Saracen is the reason the director quits. Everyone was yelling about Blade and I was like, I love the news.

I've been busy. What happened? At Disneyland, did you see Blade? What do you mean? Do you in 90 minutes? Like, you got to cut. Our best friend, Jeff Snyder. He broke. Okay. And then it got everywhere. It's all over the interwebs. Yeah. That Blade

is there video on Blade. Right now in real time. Tell me in real time. Double whammy. Here's my reaction. Well, I mean, it was like Blade Director is going to leave? Not satisfied. And then, sure enough, a little bit later, it was announced. Blade left, great director left. And that the movie's only 90 minutes

and that there's only two action scenes. And then Mersehall leads up set. And it was like all over Twitter. And I was like, oh, okay. Well, maybe they can fix it. This is my response to it. Kevin will spread himself this way towards Blade to fix it. And the other thing going around is like Kevin Faggy is apparently spread way too thin right now.

Whoa. I feel like that's inevitable. I feel like that's a foregone conclusion. That's crazy. You can't be Kevin Faggy and not be spread every direction. You can't, but also 90-minute blade and upset Mahershala. And the director. quitting this deep in the game.

That's why we've had three sets of Marvel announcements, no blade. I mean, it might have been, it must be, I mean, it's like that information came out and then a little bit later, Hollywood reporter reported that the direction left. And I was like,

okay, this must be true. Wow. All they have to do is at 15 more minutes of action. It'll be great. If you guys think we're spoiling something, I'm like, what do we spoil there?

A movie that may have a possible runtime in a couple of hours. Like, we didn't spoil the thing about, the run time is actually cheap. They might re-chewed the whole thing. The movie is about Mahershal Ali, trying to make the movie longer.

I don't think it's shot. You don't think... I don't think they shot it yet. How is it 90 minutes? The script is 90 pages. Oh, it's like 91 pages. And they're like, that's about 90 minutes. That's about it.

All right. I'm upset. Where's my movie? I quit. Every page is a montage. Yeah. I'm like, Merrershal is one of the best working. Like, if he, ooh, that's, that's a mess.

Well, well, Marvel's over, guys. That's it. The Canary is blade. It's been a pleasure. made a bunch of jokes great delts though great traps but her body excellent oblique excellent body it's just the dedication

man she put in the work it's just that's not easy to do I think that's every Marvel lead actor yeah but you I don't know there's something you don't fawn over Paul Rudd when he gets fucked if you haven't seen my reaction video it's just you breaking down off his different muscle

I mean not because it's a foregone conclusion that you got to get in shape that it shouldn't be credited no it's just hard work we work Well, I mean, it is a different type of, I mean, I don't work as hard as these guys, or you. Nor are you. But Tatiana, I just suddenly felt really fat, and I felt my stomach bloating up. I was like, oh, my God, I feel my stomach is bloating. Don't look at my hideous body.

Like, body dysmorphia in real time? Is this happening in real time? I saw it get really hot in here. The mighty dysmorphin power injury. Dismorphin time. But, yeah. Manate. That was an episode.

All right. It was. All right, we're done. We're done now. Considering we talked about blade and fitness. Clearly this was on track. We're just hanging out. Big fan of this episode.

Every episode can be saved by an appearance by punk. Guys, I know that Deadpool 3 was confirmed with you, Jackman, this week. So the lack of Deadpool cameo is disheartening. I would have expected better from Marvel. Why didn't you give me a Deadpool cameo the week that they confirmed it? Why didn't you do that for me? This, well, I'll leave with this, too, because yes, you're all right about that way. They did porcupine dirty.

It's a bit. God damn, wrong. Porcupine, justice for porcupine. Take a drink. Recast porcupine. What? I'm not going to jump the shark yet and say I'm worried about how they're going to handle Daredevil because something tells me that they're going to be so aware that they have Daredevil that they got to make it the best it could be. Yeah.

Granted, I wasn't a fan of Hawkeye when it came to Kingpin. So I am a. Bit nervous I have seen a scene with Daredevil That was exceptional But three minutes when you're in a room At D23 with a giant crowd That was exceptional

But I don't know what it's going to be The overall tune And when they're cheering the whole time You can't hear a wordy saying This is great I can't hear all right Charlie Cox is just being All the street

Here we are Everyone just pop it off in the crowd Some sort of man without fear Just doing like Will Smith Or he just says Catchphrases I'm like this is excellent I'm to a point now

I feel like any, the writers and directors who are involved, obviously, have to say, but I feel like just any time Charlie Cox is Matt Murdoch, he will bridge some of that gap. Yeah, he just demands it of it. Like, yeah, I just think it's just like, I can do D-23, or I could just do it in my goddamn self. Like, I love that Ryan Reynolds is like, two weeks after D-23, I've been outshine every announcement ever as Deadpool with Hugh Jackman walking behind me. Well, that is the lowest, like, it's just so, it's the lowest stakes highest reward. That's a big mic drop. I mean, I wonder if this is just turning into a random poll just now.

I do wonder with what you said if like maybe there was some consideration into the fact of how much that would overshadow everything. Because it's like, how do you win with these conventions? Also, he's responsible for not just a gin company, not just a phone company, but he's got a marketing company. And I think that he wanted it to control it completely. Yeah. You don't control the narrative at D23. Yeah, because then you can do the two videos like he did. Exactly.

At the same time, like, of not showing up at D23, you know, I think that allowed people to get excited for Werewolf by Night, even though there was a big, like, you know, commentary around the Internet that, like, D23 was a letdown. That one trailer was such a moment. It gave people the time to get really interested in, well, Warwick by Night looks pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. And, yeah, I mean, if that happened, no one would care about any other stuff. Right, no one we talk about, we'd be talking about it right now like we are. Love that cameo from Deadpool. Remember the shoes?

So good. So good. Deadpool by night. Deadpool by night. It's a crush. Love and Thunders. Love and Thunders, good. You know, there's...

Deadpool and Lushes of the Ten Rings. There's, remember that time when Conan... This is also post credits. You know, in the time when Conan got fired from Jay Leno, from Tonight Show. Yeah. And then when he started coming back, you could feel like there was a bit of darkness. Oh, I love that. And I'm like, sometimes that comes out of YouTube.

Like, just a really nice guy, like a sweetheart, but that, that nice Boston Irish guy. It's somehow, who is in there so much. And now there's some dark humor coming out. It just percolates. Some dark resentment coming out. I really like the idea of being TBS Conan for a while. You bring it internet. Let's fucking dance.

Eventually, Conan came back to being, you know, more grounded. And, you know, like, it just. Eventually. yeah you know what got them there greg you know got them there lots of fucking money yeah if you want me to get happy again marvel you got my number all right guys we're really done now post credit scene's been a long one over by everyone go it's a deadpool reference