The Reel Rejects - REJECT RECAP: The Boys Season 3, Episode 5 - "The Last Time To Look On This World Of Lies" Review!!

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

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How's it going, Reject Nation, and welcome to our Season 3, Episode 5, Reaction, Review, Recap, and Breakdown of the Boys, the last time to look on this world of lies. What a title in a season, I mean, this show always has interesting titles for the episodes, and one of the most, you know, name-checked and anticipated titles is coming next week. But for right now, yeah, this is another They're very striking entry into an already striking series, the most somber in a lot of ways, the most dramatic in a sense. But we'll get to that anyway. Much love and appreciation to you guys for tuning in as well as two athletic greens

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The last one's going to be a solo episode One location only soldier boy Oh Fucking hell my This fucking show I doubt there's a post credits All right, let's talk about it Let's talk about that

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god I just keep craving more Jensen Ackles I know they're really like cocktees in a spring they are getting to the point where I'm like they're better better be like just so much soldier boy and they better not kill him off like you better be coming back for the next season because it's just been one buildup after another and it's getting me like antsy for more more of him like I can't really review the performance yet like I like what Jensen Ackles is doing I like the teases that we've been getting I appreciated those subtle little nods uh not not I don't know if I call them references but yeah that poking's at because I remember you had the uh It's not Steve Trevor. Wait, yeah, Steve Trevor. Steve Rogers? It's been a long day. No, Steve Rogers is Captain America.

Steve Trevor is Wonder Woman. Yeah. And Wonder Woman 84, that was a comic. That was a joke that was definitely going around about like, he's not at all surprised by the amount of conclusion and diversity in the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, all the updated sensibilities and stuff. Yeah, so I like, I did like, they actually included that little hint at the kind of point of view this character

has. Interracial couples. What? Because I want them to push the boundaries, but especially with getting Jensen Ackles in here, knowing his relationship with Eric Kripke from Supernatural and you know, just coming off of the ending of Supernatural, I want them to go really bold with,

you know, putting him in here. Because I'm aware that it's going to get like very sexual. It's going to get like extremely sexual. Like, I'm already concerned about I know we're going to Not going to keep that video monetized, but I just don't want it to get taken off of YouTube

Is it or just be one big blur. Yeah, I want I just wanted to be able to still live on the channel So I am already a bit nervous about that one, but he's talked about on Seth Myers show like yeah, there's There's going to be some like crazy sexual stuff that he is character has to do But I want them to go really bold with it because Yeah, I'm not even sure. I don't really have a sense of yet who this character is other than the, you know, carrying over. Like, we haven't really explored who he is as a person yet. Like, we're still, you're still yet to grasp, you know, what is his association with the world?

Is his personality going to be like? Is he going to be more anti-hero? Is he going to be straight-up villain? You know, how are they going to mesh all this? We all have our theories and predictions of how this can go down, especially for those who have really dived into the source material. but I'm still waiting for what is the what is the portrayal because yeah it's a lot of it is very much currently just a big riff on Captain America and both Winter Soldier a strong clash

of both of them and you know but more of a realistic version of it all yeah yeah so yeah that that ending scene you know because for Crimson Countess his girlfriend because they're saying like everyone hated you you know she's saying that to him and you know really believe that speech he was giving when he was you know lamenting that the sorrow of not of feeling like oh you kept hoping you would come to me and rescue me but everyone hated him and yet we didn't really we haven't seen much of why why did everyone hate him yeah and it's not a complaint it's just I'm waiting for that before I can really dive into like Jets and Ackles's performance yeah totally because they're just giving you I like right now I'm really

enjoying the pacing of the show for those things getting yeah a little bit we start hear whispers about this weapon, something to do with Soldier Boy, we see a few flashbacks, and then increasingly we get just more glimpses at who he is, but I like that they've kept most of his character as seen through everybody else's eyes who knew him, who was there for the history, through MM. And with him, too, like I thought, you know, the way that they're going about teaming up with Soldier Boy potentially and also gearing up to maybe have to deal with him as a physical threat, I thought the way they tied that into everything with Butcher and Huey and especially MM has been really nice too, and that gradual, you know, pushing towards the edge because I think, you know, it's, I wouldn't say it's like a completely foregone conclusion, but I liked it in this episode, MM doesn't actually take the V. It's like I feel like it will happen. There will be that breaking point, that line that he will cross. But at the same time, I like that here, you know, you get those moments of tension where you're like, it looks like he might be ready to snap and do it, but he's really trying to hold on to his moral compass because that's what this is all.

about and I think it's really nice that they keep that in mind because it's easy to lose yourself in fantasy and in you know the darker implications of the philosophy but I think that is the trickiest one is like how do you defeat such depraved enemies without becoming depraved yourself and negating the whole process well the this process is like like it's just so not thought out on what they're doing you know if you have if you do ultimately have a weapon I think it's going on a path where a soldier boy and homelander I think in the comics I slept together oh yeah let's see that I want that I don't think they're gonna do that for a whole hour

I want that yeah I don't think they're gonna do that but I think they are gonna form a kinship I think they are gonna form a bond and I feel like that's kind of what they're alluding to sort of a like that that one a homelander was watching him a bit of this interest or desire or something I'm not sure exactly what it was but definitely a curiosity about him that felt more than just a like it's and then with the little teases we've got

in about the kind of individual that Soldier Boy is I would venture to guess that they're probably going to form some type of bond and it is not going to go according to plan but I'm like even if it did go according to plan like come on guys you're not thinking this through if you did have this ultimate human weapon who was able to take down Homelander

but this guy is a horrible dude How are you going to take down the guy? How are you going to take down the thing and takes down Homelander then? Yeah. You've literally swapped your problem for the same problem. Yeah. Yeah.

So, yeah, it just seems like one big compounding problem after another. And I'd venture to guess that M.M, like when this plan goes to shit, that M.M would then have to take some V-24 to them try to take down Soldier Boy. But like I said, I just don't want them to get rid of Soldier Boy this season. If they do ultimately end up killing him. but I do really like the darkness so far of him like it's such like Jensen Ackles is an amazing if you've seen supernatural that's that's obviously the work that most including ourselves are mainly familiar with the guy in and where you've got to see most of his range and that show you do get a lot of different ranges of that one portrayal where you do see a lot of versatility with that actor and I'm like I yeah no Jensen's toy pull this roll off but yeah I mean they are doing a like this this fucking back-and-forth thing with like Huey and Starlight you know like first it's the first season is Huey is uh you know pretend is falling in love with her but he's working with

the boys and you know she's the part of the seven the enemy and then in the second season you know like she doesn't really trust him and they are you know by the end of it they they end up getting back together and here they're finally together and now these choices and I like the how doing the v24 as a as a drug analogy you know getting hooked on drugs and using it as a crutch you know it's like when it's such a different conversation with butcher who's kind of surrendering to something as an extension to take down things but he already displays confidence or he displays strength he's already proven himself where he can he can handle certain shit now he's just using this whereas hui is like i'm a completely different human being and i like that person i can i i i i i i

I feel like I'm actually, I can contribute something physically to the team, finally. You know, and so it's a very different psychological relationship with V24 versus what Butcher has. And I think it's cool that they're able to draw both like two different dynamics with taking the drug, you know, in a way that doesn't feel like repetitive or you're just watching two characters go through the same thing with the same vice. go to the same crutch, I think that's really neat how they're drawing that. And it was heartbreaking at that end. You know, it didn't feel like just another repetitive, come on, of course they're together. Now they're not going to be together thing. It's like Huey keeps saying he's doing this for Starlight, but there's more than that

that he's doing it for because of how it makes him feel as an individual and, you know, as someone who's always trying to teeter on because since season one they've teased hughy just eventually getting to a breaking point of pure darkness and you know it brings it back to that because he really was the main character of of the first season and um like at least i thought so and you know it seemed like it was all drawn from his perspective for the most part and now it's sort of bringing it back to that trajectory of what's gone on with that character too and i think jack wades an amazing job. Yeah, no, totally. And I'm, I mean, it already, there was that theme brought up in the Mave scene about, you know, all this stuff, drugs, whatever else, V24. It all just makes

you more of you. It just amplifies what's already in there. And I know that there's that aspect of Huey was like, no, no, I'm a totally different guy. But you do get that hint at the end of, we're right back here to you using this no moralized thing to just cover up a bigger set of omitted truths. Yeah. And so what more from the thing? that Huey is trying to run away from are going to make it into his, you know, personality and physicality as he goes further and further down the V-24 rabbit hole. And I mean, yeah, that's a plotline that could easily become like, oh, come on, you know, like wheel spinning and rote. But it feels like, yeah, there's just given this world that we live in and Starlight's position

and Huey's position, especially, you know, as inter-abilities, you know, couple, it seems like there's a natural order in which it would be hard for them to ever have a happy relationship. And yeah, I appreciated that quite a bit. And, I mean, God, this was not a very, like, homelander-centric episode. I did enjoy, like, the little bits of him. This is almost the episode where he was, like, too distracted with learning how to run Vaught and being like, oh, God, this is a lot for, for this is more than I bargained for, kind of. But, you know, even so, I thought they made his moments very still, like, impactful each time he was there.

That whole thing with Maeve is nasty and chilling. Well, being able to smell Butcher on her. I mean, the way she tried lying her way out of it. Oh, you're being pretty obvious, me. Yeah. But I think as an actor, it was kind of an intentional choice because I think the way she was playing, it started clicking for me halfway through the scene because at first I'm like, oh, my God. bad lying. But it started, I'm not just saying this to be kind, it did strike me as. And I think

the scene was played intentionally like bad lying because it was more of a demonstration. She had to be doing bad lying because to get to the point where you're divulging the whole truth that even when we were like dating and sleeping with each other, I had hated you since day one. And I had feared you since day one. So to get to the point of letting that go, it's like the lying had to be bad as a sign of she's not even trying her best to cover this up. Yeah. Like she wants to let it out. Yeah, that's a good point.

I mean, it felt very, like, cliche horror movie. It's got me as a jump scare, but it was, like, still kind of, like, goofy when I look back of, like, black new art, just, right? Yeah. Wait, you're in the shadows, yeah, with the bag. It's a little goofy, but it still got me as a jump scare moment. Yeah. But I thought it did sell me. Like, I think what they've done so well with the season is, uh, more.

than the other ones is a homelander could just kill anyone at any time now he always had that ability but now it just seems like there's like nothing and no one to stop this guy at any given moment not even ashley no not even not even oh god and all the stuff with a train this episode was gnarly there are parts of the writing of it though where i did i have no issue at all with them uh infusing like political stuff uh it's never been a that i've never been like fuck that I've never had an issue with that I do think some of it is is a little too overt like I mean I feel like still do it like I'm like yeah you can still do black lives matter all lives matter cancel culture like you can totally still do all that

I I might this is a subjective taste I personally prefer it when it's a little bit more like you're replacing words instead to not make it as obvious you know like I prefer preferred it when he was saying soups lives matter versus like immediately going black lives matter all lives matter like okay now you're not even you now you're just so direct about it yeah like okay so in the world of the boys all these movements have also been happening yeah you know where i liked it better when they are doing a commentary on it as opposed to just let's just pluck it out and put it here yeah it's like i do like the the the way this show i've heard some reviews come this kind of liken it to being less of like a satirical commentary or world and more like a mirror world to ours that just happens to have soups. And so, yeah, this, I feel like they do a good job generally of riding a fine line of going, that's the language that I hear for these conversations in real life. But yeah, packaged it up in a way where it doesn't glare out. And I feel like, yeah, while I appreciate the intention of especially that scene as that speech goes down and as the fight breaks out, it is one of the few times where

the, yeah, it's like you said, the overtness kind of does pierce through the artifice. And then you're like, oh, I can kind of feel like bullet points of the sentiment for this scene rather than it feeling like, I almost feel like that scene could have used just a little bit more breathing room to get us there so that you can finesse that stuff because you're getting the, you're showing it, you're getting the point to cross without needing to be so on the news. You don't need to call it Antifa and all these. Like I would have picked up on like, yeah, there's commenting on Antifa. It's like they're at the point now where like, you might as well call this Trumpism with Homelander, you know.

Yeah, when I'm like, I already pick up on it without you having to say it, you know. Yeah, yeah. And especially with Homeland or stuff, like a lot of that, you know. Oh, it's so Trumpian. Yeah, and he uses the similar language, but yeah, it's not like exactly just coming out and saying, it's this. Yeah. And I mean, I'll give you, I feel like, you know, you can get a Black Lives Matter or one of the actual world catch slogans or repeat phrases or mantras or motifs in there. But when you, yeah, start to kind of get a tops game of them going, it does feel like you are aiming for those, you know, you're aiming to kind of break the wall with those.

And sometimes that, again, subjective taste. And sometimes that will pull me out to the point where I feel like the point and impact of what they're trying to convey actually is not as strong because I'm being now, now I feel like I'm being told it. And I'm like, I already get it. You know, we've already heard this language for the past few years. Yeah, and one thing that's great about the sensibility of this show is I feel like, while the politics are on display surely, and that must tick a certain amount of people off. I can imagine that there's probably a percentage because of how edgy and harsh the show is and because it shows multiple perspectives on multiple aspects of life.

It's like I could see people watching it who maybe don't share certain beliefs that are motivating some of the writing. And that scene was one where I was like, I would imagine a lesser amount of people sort of just being in the rhythm of the show and then not getting pulled out by that, like people who could benefit from that message and who maybe could, you know, use... This is going for people who totally lean

towards these political beliefs. Yeah, and it's like for us in that scene with Blue Falcon or whatever his name is, like, you're preaching to the choir a little bit. Of course, we are on the side of A.Train's brother, basically. Like, hey, do this the right way for Christ's sake. But yeah, it's like I could see somebody who is not on board with Black Lives Matter watching this. And in certain instances of that kind of commentary, just accepting it as part of the show and not having that knee-jerk reaction that you would to a more overtly laid out, here is a message.

And I feel like that's a scene that might miss that opportunity to hook somebody who isn't on the page with, you know, who isn't part of the choir being preached to. Yeah, I think season two had a great handle on that. And for the most part this one does too This season, yeah It's really just You know, it might sound like it's nitpicking But I don't know To me it really would be like

Hey come on you guys I've seen you be insanely good and clever at this For like many episodes now Like 20 something episodes That it would kind of pull me out But the context of what they're doing With slowly watching A train You know kind of this thing of

will he be a better person? Can he grow a soul? Because he's constantly been in turmoil and conflict over all the decisions we've seen him go through, even ever since the first season, starting off as a complete, closed off cold-hearted asshole who killed Robin to now where he's at in his life. You know, he even seems in conflict about turning in supersonic and being kind of cowardice about the whole situation. Even with this situation with, yeah, with the black community.

I forget what hometown they're, you know what hometown? Oh God, it's on the tip of my tongue too. He said it. But yeah, whatever that community is. And, you know, and it becomes personal for him too and his brothers now in the hospital and is now in a similar situation

but he has no superpowers that a train's been in before where he can't, where he's injured and can't really move. He's a little immobile. I like the content. of that a lot of watching as a guy who starts off as, I'm just doing this to play Kate and to rebrand myself in my image to, oh, there's more personal things that are making him actually care more in a more real way. He's realizing that the system of corporate, like corporate virtue signaling doesn't actually help or get things done and you can't come from that place as he has been and expect to enact real, meaningful change. on people's lives, yeah.

Yeah, I appreciate the context. And then Frenchie and Kimiko. Oh. Like, Kimiko being excited about being human. They set her up with being someone who, because she's always been kind of like a good secret weapon for the boys. You know, but they've really established and they've really doveed into a more that she hates the fact that she is this thing.

And, you know, this joy at being human. And I kind of like it to like when Professor X and Days the future pass starts like loses his abilities you can walk yeah she's like slowly getting her voice back and then they the expression a way of showing her emotions to the the music her bonding with frenchie and all this i feel it i really am concerned the like it's at the point where i'm like oh man they can kill off frenchie i'm so worried just having that tragic ending yeah i'm constantly worried for frenchie and kimiko's safety and well-being and i think they're drawing that story up really nicely because I feel like there's stakes for both of them. Obviously, it's like it's great for

Kimiko to finally be human, but also that means she's way more vulnerable than she was before. And Frenchie, I mean, yeah, he's caught. I like his story of being caught between these alphas and trying to break out of that loop and that cycle. And yeah, I hope to God they don't kill him. I almost feel like that might be the kind of dance that these characters have to play sort of as a motif as they go. I like Frenchie's story a lot. In some ways, he's like the Jesse Pinkman of the group he's he's such a such a sweetheart of a guy like such a sweetheart of a guy who's just made some terrible decisions along the way it's gone on some terrible paths and done some bad things but he's really at his core just a just a really sweet human being and and and then

you know watching him be tugged around here when I'm like god damn yeah butcher you fucking God, I'm in this fucking situation now. Now he's suffering for it. And I don't know, maybe Kimiko's going to sacrifice her, this part of her that needs to be human and, like, try to get back her powers in order to say Frenchy in some way. So now show me on the V24 too.

Yeah, maybe. Something to ignite it. Yeah, I'm liking, I still like this one a lot. It's not exactly the most. I was so shocked that Kimiko started talking. Like, that was the most excited part to me. He was like, what? He's talking?

Oh, shit. Yeah. And like I've never even seen the I don't I've never even seen the actress I'm assuming she can speak and she or is she actually hearing impaired I don't know I've never seen any interviews with her so I have no idea if she's hearing impaired or actually speaks but yeah or yeah I mean or I mean she can't be a mute I don't think for for real I don't know if that's the correct term I don't know the terminology I don't want to offend anyone either way yeah I'm trying to be you guys

know what I'm getting in and sorry if I my choice of words there was not correct um yeah still i've never seen any other so i don't know yeah and i mean that's kind of neat because yeah because then she could just exist fully in the characters as chemico to me yeah totally just chemico to me there's i mean so much great body language between them too always like i love even though there is dialogue in the sign language like i i love things like that where you really get your performers just emoting physically you know yeah very true and the deep rising up clearing out the research team.

What a bitch. She's going to mess everything up when he's a heroism and Cheats on his wife. Oh, he is. Oh, and then she's going to get with Homelander. I mean, she just controls everything.

I love all that. He cuts to her. He's just reciting what she wrote. Yeah. Oh, so cringy. A weak ass, bitch. James Crawford is so good in that role. He is.

He's like so good in that role. You've got to give respect because he really is willing to just come in with with no dignity as this guy. He's just being laughed at like he's the least cool guy. He really feels like

somebody's kid brother's just trying bending over backwards to be cool and accepted. He exists to be like a punchline. And yet he brings such humanity to the character. I think Jayes Crawford's work on it is actually pretty underrated. He's really

great in this show. Yeah. You've got to be game. You've got to really be game to play this guy. Exist to be pathetic. Yes. And to find new lows. Like, Chase Crawford is like a really dashingly good looking dude and like a very like physically fit

guy. Yeah. He has the natural looks of a guy who could be a superhero. But I love how he just plays it as such a pathetic human being. Yeah. He's so good in the role. Yeah. So good.

Yeah. Totally. So, yeah. I mean, overall, really somber. shit. This is probably like the one with the least exciting stuff in it. And Paul Riser, holy fuck. Paul Riser. Paul Riser showing up in here. Yeah, Paul Riser

and Russia. Two things very much in style. Yeah, carried over. Yeah, carried over from Stranger Things for us. Pretty nuts to see like the similarities. Yeah. And R.I.P. Lori Holden. Goodbye Crimson Countess. I actually thought she would last a little longer than these couple appearances. I mean, I like

Paul Riser's performance a lot. It felt like a commentary on like that. Not exactly like a Harvey Weinstein, but there's like a fucking music. entertainment producer big mogul of entertainment yeah yeah he's maybe retired now but still very much about that life yeah he's got that layer of slime on him yeah so so naturally he's a he's just a a few rewrites away from being a guy in like a robe with a bunch of curly chair being an eliot gould character yeah yeah right you're right in the brink of being that um but yeah guys what did you think about this episode leave your thoughts down below

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