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Without further ado, you ready to get into this movie, man?
Yeah, man, I'm ready for it.
Let's remember the Titans.
Woo!
Wow, what a feel-good movie.
you remember the titans
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oh man
what a good release k bosworth
that's who it is my god you cannot put it together
who is she
emma uh the girl
the white girl who slept with julius neat
yes i know koshwreth yes god damn
all right gregg man how you feeling after a experience i remember the titans good i feel i feel
really good um it's uh it is like one of those like uplifting experiences there was there was like
certain moments that i did definitely remember it was interesting watching it here
because i was also like he made my mouth shut because i was like oh i don't want to like feel like
Hey, you're not going to like hype you up and then make you look out, you know,
and then I feel like that ruins the surprise.
So I don't want to, I don't want to be that guy.
I don't do that in private with people.
So I wouldn't want to do that on camera just because I'm trying.
I appreciate that.
You know, like the strong side, left side moment.
I'm like, oh, yeah, this is that moment.
But I didn't want to say like, hey, there's this moment going up that I really like.
But a lot of it, I didn't remember.
Like, there was, like, just flat out, like, plot points and plays and the final play.
Like, there's so much I just didn't really recall.
but the things that i loved about it when i was a kid that influenced my youth of i think i said
to the patreon intro not the youtube intro of and i've mentioned other videos before that i did grow up
in a very i would say like there was a i was surrounded by other people old elder older people as
well very racially charged racist point of views right and this was a movie that did influence my way
of thinking to get out of it because when you're like in it you know like hardcore catholic school
a lot of written and not not there actually but actually some of it there but other elements
and i like the rate like there's just a lot of like beliefs to the strong beliefs that i'm like
in a vortex of and having to form my own beliefs outside of there this was one of those movies
that did put me on the the path to being logical about how illogical it is to be racist right so
I do feel like this movie that's impact still, even to this day, it's like it resonates
to me.
It's like there's some points that I find like a little bit funny because I've, I've heard like
Dave Chappelle talk about that in his stand-up comedy like, yeah, they've got to be good at
basketball, be good a rep, you know, it's a part of the meme.
It's like getting to be pulled out a little bit of going, oh, yeah, you like everyone's
cool with all the black people now and now they're all going to fucking football, you know,
but, you know, it's a real thing.
Yeah, it's a real thing, right?
But when you're lost, but I mean, that's not the main point, right?
I could either be cynical about it or I could just get swept up in the romanticism and the true story of the progress that was taking place of being able to see past one skin color, you know, and especially for the time, right?
Like I don't consider that a problematic thing. I don't want it to miscommunicate in that way. I think this was a very strong film with a, with, and I love how like mature it is, but also like family friendly.
Totally. I was thinking about it. It doesn't feel like it's preaching.
cheated children um a single hard ar in this whole movie no actually yeah yeah yeah you're right
um uh no there's not and i i like how it is accessible so i i think it is like a good family film
with it being like you know a little bit more on the like let's cue that high note up on the
rousing side you know to inspire people uh but you know we've seen a lot of movies that are like
racism's bad racism is wrong and i think this is one of the good ones i think this is one of like
the good hollywood ones you know uh that doesn't feel like like oh my god i get it movie because
it's not a white savior film also um even though like yost is he's learning a lot yose is learning
a lot he's got his moments of being like heroic but this is um you know this this is this really
is boone's movie and this is the team's movie and it's about friends learning to overcome it right
and see past it and not about making a speech to be like hey here's why you shouldn't be racist
you know uh i thought that it was a but it makes it even more powerful and more natural so yeah
i really loved it but what did you think man is your first time watching what did you think i thought
was great i think that it's one of those movies that kind of lives in the cultural like guys is
being very uplifting and inspiring all the performances are really good but i think just as someone
who used to play football i really resonated with it not only from the racial aspect of things
but just the bonding nature of what it means to be part of a team
and, you know, what discipline and respect can kind of be the result of
or what that can inspire, how that can unify people through this experience.
I think a lesser movie would have had the racial tension lead up until the end
until they have to be a team, but I like that that was the middle point of the movie
where they had to like each other and then throw them into the element of,
oh, now the outside world has to be a factor within the relationship.
You guys have established when you guys were in private within your little echo chamber.
I thought all of that stuff was great.
I thought Denzel was able to be a very calculating performer, which he always is.
You know, I think there's never been a single bad Denzel perform.
But I like that his role, even though he was very prominent, it was very much about his relationship to the team, how he affected them.
And the movie does this interesting thing where it tells you his personal stakes within the,
movie but then it never really talks about it again but you just know that's something in the
back of your mind he never imposes it you're right he never imposes it he doesn't talk about it with his
wife he doesn't talk about it with his uh his fellow captains he doesn't talk about it with this
team but that's just this extra element same thing with um the other coach he has this thing that
he knows and he doesn't impose that on on anyone else as well there's like this it's weird because
it's this emotional intimate thing about a group but it doesn't take the um the individual
individuality and make it priority over what the film is trying to do as a whole, which I think was a very interesting thing because you don't really know too much about Denzel's life other than the fact that he's a football coach and he has a wife and kids. But you don't need that because that's not the point of the story. And the way that they were, but they do a good job at showing like especially when you get that line later on. Like just with the way how he responds to contextual things and then when he doesn't even emphasize his story when he is trying to motivate.
sunshine on the field and he's like i lost my parents at 15 you know and like it's just like a
really quick thing he's inserting there to motivate him it's not like we're going to make a big
dramatic pause monologue moment about it but you see that factors into the whole performance as a
guy who's had a lot of struggle and has had to develop a lot of character and resilience along the
way to be the man he is and that's what makes him inspire yeah they said he used to i think walk with
with m okay at the beginning of the movie to kind of establish what kind of guy he is and his example
really definitely did inspire i wish that obviously it's a movie we only have two hours so some of the
stuff that they did like kind of tease about was like i would like to have seen more of the team camaraderie
coming together like the whole thing about let's uh have everybody learn each other's names or something
of facts about each other along the way i would have liked to have seen some of uh coach boone
teaching the oh it's the one is julius is that the big news name uh no no no it's julius and and
the Gary are the best
friends. Other the two, the black and white
dude. Yeah, the main black and white
guy. The main guys. And then
he said he was going to help him
get the bigger dude into
school. Oh, the big guy, the large guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I wish I would have liked to have seen some
more of their relationship. But, you know, that's just
a little side, like a little
side story that they do come back to
and kind of pay off at the end.
Just for clarification purposes, are you
suggesting that
it diminished some of the
experience for you because like even if it was like a micro diminishing or is it just something
that you were enjoying and you wanted to see more i think the second one yeah it was something i was
enjoying because i feel like they they took the time to to acknowledge these other relationship the
smaller aspects of these things would not give it the the full life and even though it's something
that that touched me personally as i was watching it and i would love to have seen more of this
guy's journey of him learning to believe in himself over the course of uh this movie while also
being more pivotal and learning that he has a role to play with him, this football team.
But it's not his story. It's about the team as a whole.
Well, it's interesting because I felt like in the passage of time, I felt all the ons off-screen.
A lot of times you watch movies where like off-screen development is even furthering.
And you're like, I kind of wish I saw that.
I really bought it whenever we checked back in with them, you know, because I think the strong side,
left-side moment is such a pivotal point because they're doing all these things to be like,
how do we get them to bond and see past we don't have time to like do all this like hyper education
right like we just need to start seeing everyone as individuals right and as a team right you've got
to see past skin color they're doing all these things to learn from each other ride the bus together
you're gonna have roommate together you're gonna do all these things together and then in the strong
side left side moment is like okay they have literally like broken through to the other side
and it's from the leaders like they're julius and gary are the leaders here um for like the black
in white camp right it so it's so when they break through like that and i believe like everyone
suddenly like yeah all right fuck yeah we can do this we can get along you know yeah and speaking of
their relationship they're probably the best thing in the movie to me yeah their way that they
were able to believably have them at odds and then them raising up interesting and strong
point as to why the other person wasn't doing their job properly yeah to them the development of
them essentially being best friends about the end it was like oh my god that's
even though there was a smaller story within a larger story the way the amount of screen time they gave them their relationship was perfect yeah and i could have watched them and their chemistry like through an entire film i thought that was phenomenal also hayton pin and tier she was great as well like that was like one of the best child actors i think i've ever seen in the movie she was really sold that yeah she really believed her passion and her frustration and her dedication to football in addition to you know her love for her father like i'm sure she still calls her dad
coach to this day because she's just that dedicated to the game then her her relationship with a with boon's
daughter was also fun and cute and i wonder if there was improv there because i don't know something
they felt something off the cuff about the way that they would interact yeah so that was was interesting
i like the uh i just like how a movie that's that is ultimately about love and acceptance like that is
the driving force of behind it so even though at times it can be like swelling and rousing in
the very Hollywood romanticism way
in certain moments like I'm going to shake
your hand on the field or
I'm going to give a speech on Gettysburg land
I still feel like I feel like the movie like earns those
moments because everyone is performing it so naturally
and so sincerely that it never
I think that's why it doesn't feel cheesy
even though a lot of movies
would feel cheesy in these moments
you still buy the
it's a really good tone I think the movie strikes
to be able to
to pull off that stuff without it feeling corny, you know?
Yeah, and I think what you said earlier about it,
not trying to hammer home and be kind of like preezy in a sense.
I feel like because it grounded in character is why it didn't feel that way.
Yeah.
Because everything having to do with, you know, the racial conflict
was to better our characters to enlighten them
and to motivate them to be unified
and watching them be unified in the face of them dealing with their own personal biases
has only made the game and the experience of watching them
that much more enriching and much more engaging.
And I like the themes about the impact of leadership,
how it always trickles down.
Like you're looking at like Gary and Julius,
but then there's also Yost and Boone,
who are like the leaders there
and how important their ability to communicate
and get along with each other and trust each other is
right up until the final game, you know?
Yeah.
Like that's what allows them to win.
Like obviously there's things here
are undoubtedly dramatized or uh order of a thing switched or maybe condensed you know how these biopics go
uh but i think for a narrative it's really strong of driving those principals home and it is a good
i think it is a really strong movie about leadership you know yeah yeah and i wonder if you know
high schools or whatever show this movie like a form of of unity you know beyond like obviously
like the range is like main major component in this but i think yeah this is a great example of
proper leadership of integrity of yeah just being just being um honorable within you know your
environment and also just i love the effects of what something like football does to community
not only with the community within their team but just like how it affected like their outer world
yeah and i don't know i just love that effect on sports in general you know like you go to
something like the Dodger game or even a football game for that matter and you just see different people of all different walks of life who I'm sure have an array of different opinions and feelings and way of living but you know they're all there because they love the same thing and watching them all cheer when their team wins or scores or something it's just I don't know it's just it's just beautiful it's like something like primal about you know unified joy yeah well one of the other big themes of the movie is about community you know the way they use music
In scenes, I thought, was really strong.
There's a lot of movies that take place in earlier era,
so they bombard you with songs from that era
to try to make it feel like you're from that era.
Totally.
And while this movie, you know, we'll do that.
There's a lot of just original and composed songs,
but they have all these scenes like,
like I think this was the movie that introduced me
that ain't no mountain high enough.
And, nah, no, no, no.
I don't even know they say, hey, hey, hey, say goodbye.
That's like, those two songs are such, like,
theme songs of the film you know yeah and it's crazy because I wonder if that this movie came
out first and then those things because my own experience of football I've heard those terms like
the nah nah nah like who we are and I'm like okay I wonder if it's it's funny because I'm sure
if this movie that introduced those things then my experience was inspired by this movie and now
I'm watching it like oh where they come from yeah exactly I don't know it's like a
reverse kind of experience but i think i'm i'm grateful for that because i think it only made
the experience that much more enjoyable yeah yeah the communal experiences are great and the life
the the the learning life lessons to impact football but taking that i i just kind of felt like
this cool auriborous effect of how everything was always trickling back in um from from life to
football football to life uh in a very strong way and it didn't feel like overly calculated i thought
it was just a very natural film when everyone is just so good in a movie like everyone's really
really good in this film and uh i mean den's i don't know if denzil was nominated for this
because i love it because he represents everything this movie's about especially but like
yeah because it's about leadership it's about community but it's about discipline it's about
respect it's about self-respect it's about belief you know there's a there's a lot here of you know
like it's called the football team's called the titans and they are like shaping them into like
Titans as people, you know, beyond just the physicality, but showing that the physicality starts
with the endurance in the mind. There's a lot of strength in the way this movie operates.
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Yeah, no.
It's a beautiful film. It's a great
film. I thought it was interesting the way
that they were kind of touching a little bit on what I was saying
earlier about how this movie didn't really drop
a single, like,
hard R. And I think that
it's interesting because they could have
kind of doubled down like the
I guess racial injustice aspect of things.
that's why like I got I got scared like for certain players and like I got scared that um
Jerry was gonna feel like the backlash of of being there for his team and and for his his black teammates but that's not ended up not what ended up happening I think just media about race kind of primed me for something really dark to happen but this movie largely kept it um above board like they gave you just enough racial tension and and and racial slurs to know that you know this is a heavy factor of what's happening but they didn't like
like try to hammer it home with like I don't know just you know being it's that it's not jango
you know I mean sure sure all right some fun facts here that thing really did happen to
corner coach moon about the buses about making them bus together yes it wasn't a brick thrown
through Boone's window it was an old toilet wow what the hell but filmmakers thought that would
add humor to the serious situation yes we would all be dying of laughter oh toilet
toilets are funny toilet through the window should put poop in the toilet
they were hilarious I can't take this moment seriously
they're pouring a potty through the window um oh interesting so the director
I don't know who this guy is boaz yak yakin boz yakin and is a white ass dude
or european or something uh yeah I don't know any of these oh he wrote the heart of they fall
interesting okay yeah he's got a lot of writer credits uh but in terms of directing
uh yeah i haven't seen this is the only movie of his i've heard of uptown girls but apparently
didn't know anything about football so jerry brookheimer the producer enlisted him to like go to a football
camp so that way he could actually understand what football is oh wow okay so with coach bill yoast
he actually has four daughters
and all four live
with their mom
wow there's a lot of
a lot of things different about this life
but okay
I guess we'll read the whole thing on that one
in real life coach Bill Yost has four daughters
Bonnie Angela Cheryl
and Deidre
Deidre I don't say that
Unlike in this film all four daughters live with their mother
Betty Yost after their parents divorced
Bonnie was in college
Angela went to a different high school
and d was only three years old in 1971 but Cheryl that's a hate advantage here attended most of
the games and other events with her father so the filmmakers thought it would be distracting to depict
the other three girls yeah while bill yos was not happy about that the sisters were fine with it
and rather enjoy the movie i agree with that yeah it's not a time to expose old guys backsworth
oh wow the real Cheryl yost unfortunately led to a relatively short life whoa passing away from an undetected
heart condition in 96 even before the movie came out at the age of 34
Cheryl had been a major supporter of her father's coaching efforts though by her father's
own account she was not as rabid of a football fan as to film the picks
however because of the relationship she had with her father the hearty interest in sports
in general and her untimely death before the film was produced three sisters had no
problem with Cheryl being portrayed as an only child while they were omitted from the film
I wonder why they didn't say that at the end of what happened because the past four years
before the movie came out
oh yeah
that's kind of weird
um
I want them to also let her memory live on
you know
uh like the
it was a nice sentiment at the end
he's like still supports her father to this day
like the spirit of her still supports the father
to this day this is what I can imagine
um
let's see if there's anything new here
that the movie honors
that fact uh
Bubba da-da-da-ba-da-ba-ba-pah-tac T.C. Will you?
Okay, no, they're just basically being like, yeah, this really did happen.
Yeah, it's really, it happened.
All right.
I mean, there's not a lot of, like, hey, this didn't actually happen.
Oh, wait, there's 30 more here.
Do we really want to go through all this?
The original script was full of profanity.
Wow.
Disney wanted to make a family film.
Wow.
They did a great job.
They pulled it off, man.
That's crazy.
Okay.
i don't know there's a lot to go through here but i got to go yeah there's a lot to go
through here but that was great i loved it that was great love it love it so much yeah all right guys
did you like and remember the titans do you want to remember the titans with us let us know down
the comments below we love you and we'll see you the next time i don't know what that was
bye the rogate oh eight hey that is definitely j t j t j t
with your Pikachu Gundam thing.
Love it.
So you're socializing.
That's the thing with J.T.
Yeah.
You know?
I'm thinking about like a lot of the...
outside of like an Eric Horsman
who seems like he really likes to talk.
And Anisa, where you get a sense
that there's a shy person in there,
but they also like to talk.
Introvert, extrover, wherever we want to call it.
Ambivert or whatever they call it now.
When you're both.
So many words.
I know.
I wish the language would stop expending.
It's weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I saw the word and I was like, oh, there's a word for this, but also I got to learn a new word and it's a funky looking one.
Like intro and extra or so ingrain, you're like ambivert or omnivirte, like which is which and why.
Yeah.
But you can be a little bit of both now, I guess.
I don't get the sense of J.C. that's what he was like.
Maybe he's different now.
It's been a few years.
I mean, talk to him, but you seem.
He seemed like a real shy guy.
You seem like the kind of guy who like would go out in a group, be kind of the quiet guy in the group.
sure who's still having a good time
who's like low key
good time yeah I think I think for sure
yeah um
but
man
I just
I don't remember like actual meditation
facts about it
like what are some facts
it's been so many years
I see his face I see him laughing at our dumb jokes
I see your collectibles
yeah I know he's in Hawaii
but outside of them like
What? J.T. is now
training to be a cop.
He's a junior detective.
Father's footsteps. He's there right now
while his father's there.
And everyone's like, look his Nepo, baby,
I was going to. Let's plant
some evidence. And that drives
J.T. into a life of Hawaiian
crime, which if Dog the Bounty
Hunter, is any indication, is pretty
quirky and fun in and of itself.
We used to pitch a lot of ideas
to him. We did. It was Idea Day.
Ideas that never turned into anything. Wow.
Which is most ideas, right?
well and you know the more ideas you say out loud yeah the less of them if there is a god
that's what i would do i would ask them any questions for before you enter heaven yes i want to know
how many more ideas are there out there that have that have been thought of and then have
actually been caught people follow through it yes what's the ratio what's the ratio here is it like
a hundred billion to like a million like what is it sure sure sure sure and how
What's the percentage of the time
that speaking the idea decreases
its chances of coming into reality
versus holding it in mind and using that as fuel?
Yeah.
Can you call God and ask?
I think JT's,
JT's, I'm going to call around it.
JT is the...
That's a Pikachu.
Yeah, it's a Pikachu inside of like a...
What?
I don't think it's actually a Gundam.
I think it's, you know,
but it looks like an armored core guy
or something like that.
You know, some kind of meck.
That's cool.
I don't know what mech it is, but it's like a mech, Pikachu.
God, you're a Pikachu days.
Yeah, there are people who still have Pikachu days.
Remember the Pikachu?
We were around for Pokemon at its, like, maximum prime.
And, yeah, reached an apex.
It was, like, there are people who have no eye.
I think it's like a forgotten part of television history out here.
It was a craze.
It was insane.
It was on the news.
you would i remember i went to the mall once there was this giant
Pokemon card tournament uh and game boy tournament simultaneously happening that was taking up
like the whole wing of the mall it was like whatever i think fortnight is now like
i guess that must be but even that feels like and and maybe it's just because media has changed
and you don't have to go out like a card game is like stuff that compels you to go to social spaces more
But, like, you know, even Fortnite feels or Minecraft feels like they're in a bubble of the internet, whereas, like, Pokemon was a little bit of everywhere.
It was on TV.
It was out in, you know, waking life.
And then Pokemon Go.
But, like, was a small research.
Okay.
So I read something.
I forget which one, David Fincher wanted to adapt something.
It was like Harry Potter, but he had like a super dark take.
But now I wanted to pitch you, Jay's Drew with JT, David Fincher's Pokemon movie.
Let's go.
Okay, so it does start off like normal ash collecting Pokemon, Pikachu, but then we do a time jump.
Yes, yes, yes.
And in this time jump, all the Pokemon collectively are like, why are we slaves to these humans?
Yeah, why do we agree with to this?
We can overpower them and they use us for their own, they think it's tenderness and passion and compassion, but they use us to harm each other.
don't need to harm each other. It's the humans who are doing this against us. Yes. But you know,
this is all like, peek a peek, peek, peek, a peek. Yeah, it's all subtitled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm like,
that's what Mutu should have been, right? So I think Mutu shows up. Like, that Mutu would be the
revolutionist. Like, there was something cool to Mutu, right? Yeah. And so I think it's a story about
the whatever, like, when people talk about like AI, Android's taking over or that, you know,
the movies that do that, that's where they should be with Pokemon and you're kind of on their
side. It's like planet of the ape to a Pokemon.
Like, you know. My name is Ash, and I
am a slave. You too is like the Caesar
because he is. The first
front of the talk. What was Meowth who could
talk to? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then meyouth
is like the the
worm tongue in that scenario. And then you have
the time jump reveal
that Detective Pikachu is
now like, Ash is still your
eyeline, but Detective Pikachu is
like his master. Like Pikachu has become
Detective Pikachu. It's a Venture movie and you've got to
have that. And Ash is like
His Pokemon is little, yeah, companion now.
Yeah.
And like, Detective Pikachu is less shitty.
He doesn't like totally abuse Ash, but their power dynamic is clearly the detective
Pikachu was the master and Ash is not.
And like, yeah, it's all in this backdrop of like Pokemon dominated world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because Pokemon is an interesting.
And they have like Digimon and shit.
And I never got into Yu-Gi-O.
That was like the, that was the order of those things, right?
It was like Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-Gio at that time.
and the like there was other shit that but none of them were like as culturally big
everywhere like there was like that kind of anime and then what people called real
yeah so yeah that I feel like yeah you had because you had like a dragon ball and
sailor moon and Gundam wing and Gundam and those as I were they had the movies out like a cowboy
beep up yeah here you know but yeah yeah I feel like around that time it's like you have more
recognition than ever before for those
yeah sailor moon dragon ball z Gundam
yeah and then Pokemon hits
and then it's like you don't have to know
any other anime but you know what
Pokemon is your mom knows
what it is the children
know what it is goddamn Pikachu you've seen
Pikachu and you know that pika pika is
a thing yeah and like
certain even of like again
a sailor moon or a dragon ball is huge
but like doesn't crack the surface
in the same way yeah yeah
with the same ubiquity but that would be
the Pokemon move I want to see but you would have to come to a balance right because that is what
they're doing it's like it's not like humans jack it in to a yager you know they are just like yeah
fight each other it is like slavery fighting it is it is fascinating you know that's what it is because
the world is so cool and the concept is so fun that you're like yeah man if I had like a little
companion animal and I could get a bunch and we could make them and they would spar with each
like if that's it's about being the number one trainer it's not the
Pokemon who's like I want to be the number one
Pokemon it's about being the number one trainer it's it's one of the few
concepts I've ever that I can think of off the top of my head now or that
we've broached this where I'm like it is the concept is so good and fun and
like any amount and you know we didn't do this for a long time we're doing it
now any amount of questioning of the dynamic immediately makes you go oh
this is a little messed up like you're like this is so great I would love it but
it only actually morally works if the Pokemon are like by nature have to fight and they want to do it yeah and and we're some kind of benevolent intermediary where we can go hey let's hone you and make it so you're not just all killing each other and yeah like i'm reading um i'm reading uh the fourth wing books and i'm the second book and it's a lot of it is about it's about dragon writers right and but the dragons are not just like they the dragons are really like no we have our agency and we made an agreement with you guys yeah you know
this is how things operate and no human really controls us you ride us and we and you clean up our
shit and return we need each other but we can really do without you if we wanted to you know like
we have mutual interests but also yeah we can do without you if we need yeah like and that's what
bocobot needs just yeah yeah because you're never in like Pikachu's motivation right and it's always
like serve ash it's it's like having your dogs and cats fight other
other people's dogs and cats.
Yeah.
It 100% is.
It's so fascinating to me.
Like, it's because it's, it's, it is so equally like fun and appealing and it, but it is
exactly that.
It's wild.
It's going to be a lot of, a lot of things to clip out here, I think.
Yes.
This is a good idea day.
Thank you, J.T.