The Reel Rejects - SCHOOL OF ROCK REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

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I'm in two places at once right now Let's go Now, if you're let's know Apple and Spotify, we just watched school of rock this this definitely is my first time watching i i have not normally if there's like a i haven't seen a long time i might have seen in on moments there might be like

a moment or two that oh yeah this is like there's a familiarity yeah no credits were familiar for me but that was also what i thought the plot was was i thought it was a rock school jack black taught at so i think all of my connotations came from cleaning that theater three times a day. Because I would have, at 2003, I would have been working at a movie theater. And I would have probably had three rounds of showtime with a two-hour movie because my shifts for eight hours. So, like, I think I just thought the movie was the end of the whole movie.

So it was really funny because the cover looks like that too. So in my brain, I think I was like, oh, it's that rock school movie. Yeah. It's fun to watch from this. What years is this again? 2003, 2003, 20-some years ago. 22. and the Jack Black name and his persona

of how he has evolved into very specific traits. His Jack Black is. Yeah, yeah. Like you hire him for a lot of times to be Jack Black, and he stretched his legs and done a range of things, but then a lot of times he shows up and he does his Jack Black thing. And he's always committed. And it's crazy how when you watch like a Jim Carrey,

as great as he is in Sonic, sometimes you do see shades of, is he kind of being forced? or pushing exertion of an energy because that's what people expect of him is this genuine? This felt like his Ace Ventura. This felt like his Ace Ventura.

Jack Black's foundational thing that we then base all things off of. I feel like Ace Ventura was kind of what led to liar liar, what led, you know, like there's that big, big performance that they get known for and then they play variations of for better and worse. I'm wanting to learn some of the behind the scenes

because... I feel like it was written for Jack. Yeah, it seems like he knew Mike White. Yeah. And then they crafted this together. So while Jack Black didn't write this script or something, and I didn't see it. I think it's that written by Mike White.

And then a lot of the songs were Mike White, Jack Black. So I think improv maybe. It didn't seem like a producer credit from Jack Black either. This is the kind of role that nowadays they would craft a Hollywood screenplayed it. And then it might even rewrite it to be more for Jack Black. Yeah, this might have been their Goodwill hunting. You know what I mean? Like the Jack Black Star vehicle for Matt Damon.

If I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong about this because I'm just going off memory of trailers growing up there was like orange county which i've never seen and i think i saw it in the same arrow i think cullen hank yeah it's him and colin hans i think i saw that uh then and then there's high fidelity which is and i like john cusack i knew of uh high fidelity john cac i've never show so good i saw like the first 10 minutes of that when i was younger okay and of course i saw that that was the main thing i knew of from the jackal have you seen that no it's good uh i remember to be the jackal blackle it's it's Bruce Willis as a bad guy.

Oh. And he's the Jackal. He was in the holiday, which came out around here, which I enjoy quite a bit. Holiday I think was after that. A great Christmas movie dude. Holiday I think was after that.

Kate Winslet, Jude Law, Jack Black. Yeah. Not playing a Jack Black character. Very earnest role. Well, it's fun to go back to this to see the movie that undoubtedly was the one that made him leading man. Like this movie with Orange County,

it's like a dual. I remember seeing the trailers for that and it is him and someone else. And maybe there's other ones I'm forgetting, but School of Rock was the first one that really. really pierced something for him and he's the one person on the poster and he's one of those personalities where he's an overweight dude and he's a lot and there's part of his comedy is how he can be repulsive yet warm and you like him and like there's he's not for everybody but somehow he manages to be your every man yeah it's it's a really unique role and to watch this it's one

of those where you go i don't see a world where anyone else could pull off this specific role i agree he's perfect in it he's absolutely perfect because the slacker character that he is at the top and the evolution that he goes through it's combined with a lot of different elements that make for ultimately the emotion behind it is a feel-good time of recapturing the essence of childhood in some way of exploration, youth, the ability to create, express yourself and not be rigid in the way you go about life. And I thought that it was a very surprisingly moving time because it starts off in a way where like the outline of it as we were talking during it is, you know, it feels like it's hitting the requisite plot beats that it has to hit. But there's always something refreshing.

underneath it all. And then even as it progressed even more, it would unveil new layers primarily with Joan Cusack, who surprised me a lot with what they do with her portrayal. Miranda Cosgrove as being someone who never became a threat

or might be a snitch or something. You could see some of these art types in a different lesser-than film, which would go down predictable plot point turns. And instead, this did what he described as rock music, which was messy, let itself breathe, took bold swings. It was like the way he described music,

to them. He would take twists and turns like the movie did, but it also got to be messy because they trusted in Jack Black's improv. They trusted in the different character choices that felt like authentic to the character, but not the easy one. Joan Cusack never made the easy choice. And I felt that in the beginning, it was interesting that I thought Mike White's girlfriend, Sarah Silverman, was going to be the antagonist of the B plot. Instead, they surprised me by making her the antagonist of the A plot. And I liked that at the beginning, all of her choices just, I thought it was going to be one of those things where, like, when I watch Ferris Bueller's Day off,

I go, kind of the dick. Like, the lead is not what I thought was cool when I was a kid. So I was wondering if it was going to be a situation where Sarah Silverman was actually just responsible. And I would be like, oh, that tracks. But then she betrayed my hopefulness for her and became the villain. And I love that Jack Black is like 90% irresponsible,

10% responsible. And then he has to just get like 30% response. but in that 20% wiggle he lets everyone else like wiggle a little bit like it's like he gives that recklessness to them and it spreads out amongst them and then they get to be a little bit more fluid while he learns to button up because he finds a reason to i think he probably spent his whole life never having an actual reason that mattered to him to find a path or purpose and that's beautifully affected mike white who mike white is having this journey of like what if we're just not good enough and jack black has to accept he's not good enough to lead a band but he's perfectly good enough to

inspire the next generation. And Mike White's not even that good. So I love that he's teaching Rock 101 and all of that while Mike White then is writing himself the supporting role, which is interesting. Like in real life, Mike White wrote Jack Black the lead and he took the supporting role. So his real life experience mirrors the art of the movie. That's very true. That's fun.

That is a very good point. I like that. There's a lot of heart in this movie. And Linkletter. My God. Dude, I'm so excited for you to see Dazed. And the before trilogy is my favorite trilogy of all time. and what link later I think does best in the before trilogy what I love about it is he captures the feeling of poetry and what I believe and feel about love he captures in heights and lows the before trilogy is like when love is thriving and when love is suffering and the whole movie is like walk-in talks and a lot of it feels like they're improvving with beats to hit sure and shooting that is next to impossible and then what I love about days and confused is it feels like a slice of life where you're just going to have to have

hang with some friends for a day in the 70s and you have to cast so immaculately that like you know, Woody Harrelson becomes a star he'd never acted before. Like you, you find the right people to just be a voyeur and watch and let that live. What I found really interesting about this, there's a reason I just went through the filmography, but what I found really interesting about this was what I love about those two versions of Linklater are a certain amount of freedom, but you just kind of watch. And the other one is like a certain amount of like chasing the actors, which is the before trilogy. And then Hitman, I felt like, It was his most precise.

Like, it was an action movie that used dialogue as action. I love that movie. This felt like all of that. It felt like they had to have the action directing of Hitman, but with music. It had to have the poetry of letting Jack Black feel organic while give all these lessons. But it also needed to feel like you were just watching a class like a Robin Williams comedy or like one of those movies where you've got like the Dead Poets Society. You've got that like uplifting thing. So Linklater had to like do his thing in all the ways.

and it never felt like the tropes of a lesser director doing the beats you'd expect. It always was like, what's the right choice? Oh, concert scene. Oh, personal moment. Oh, let's mill this. Like, it was masterfully directed. Yeah.

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One of the words we keep throwing around, there's two eye words we're throwing around about, inspire and improv. and let's take the category of inspire. I think on the level of teachers and leaders in the world, because this is what he's learning to be, is both a teacher. It has to be a leader, right? And rather than just being an authority that you have to listen to,

he becomes a true leader who knows how to inspire the kids to do what they want. Yeah. What they want in life, you know? It's not a manipulation. This is a true desire that they have. And I found so much. joy personally and witnessing that evolution because this is a fantastical movie in a lot of ways like in my perspective in real life i'm totally sarah silver me like dude what are you doing

this is illegal you are you lied i would entrust you you're you're um you took someone's identity yeah there's if you're if we're gonna like peel back and go the real world i would be like no that's why in the beginning i was yeah this is insane wait if this is insane wait if this is was a real thing happening. You kidnap those children. You kidnapped those children, brought them on a bus. You know, you're using them for your own selfish gain, right? Of course, of course.

So, yes, that's one of the powers of storytelling, though, is to throw you into something that is heightened enough where, of course, this would not really happen where the parents would come around. Of course not. Jack Black escaped the cops through the power of rock and roll. Yeah, so it's a comedy. It's a family comedy movie movie movie. be that no that knew how to ride just that right line where it didn't become too absurd to the

point where it felt mocking or unrealistic whilst being something that is pretty unrealistic of what would actually most likely go down or the guy would be arrested he'd be thrown in jail this would be pretty bad situation in that room he wouldn't have made it home to sleep but to tell a story from the pov where you where you capture part of that rock and roll essence I think is really cool because that's a powerful influence and with improv the one this was the first time i ever had this thought with anything i've ever seen normally in improv you take any judd apatow movie it's pretty simple how they shoot it right one camera two single single single single master yeah pretty simple i don't like how you shoot a podcast single single

master let them improv let them flow and i was questioning when it was improv because of how particular the camera work seemed to be at times where it seemed very much a precision type of shot that they would have to do with a lot of these specific tracking shots because tracking shots especially when it's not

handheld like the end that felt like a Woodstock music video during the credits that's a different thing you're playing with versus a really like you're let the rig it up put it on a there's a track there's a crane yeah yeah it's a whole thing

and you have to have lighting people moving with you you have to calculate that shit out astronomical and there were times where i was like is he improvising these lines right now whilst doing this so part of doing music is achieving flow state and you feel a flow state of performer working with camera that's what i'm directing i was so impressed you don't actually come by a lot normally you just have to let the camera roll and if anything you're handheld and you're following if you're going to do that and i had never quite seen that in a film and one of the things i was bringing up when watching it was um it how how believable jack black sounds really sounds like he's every line he says

he sounds like he's making it up and i wonder how much was because i couldn't i couldn't find it's like set rogan when he's when he's in a movie that's so perfect for set rogan like super slept on uh have you seen a long shot it's a rom-com with charlie was there i was sorry i was there i was so impressed at like there are beats you have to hit and like be an actor, but there's also so much improv and I'm like, when is Seth Rogen?

And this feels like that to me where it's like you have to hit X, Y, Z, but there's also so much ABC. And so I hadn't even considered the actual physical dynamics of the directing. Linklater mapping that

and having so much trust in his DP and so much trust in Jack Black and so much trust in children actors notoriously not a cast that's easy to navigate that also, by the way, had to play band instruments. Like, what a, what a casting call this most of the bed.

Yeah, they were great in the movie. Some kids, maybe they might have set up a little bit earlier to have more. It's not really about screen time. I'm going to take it back a little bit. Yeah, it's not about screen time because there are some kids who are, it seems like at first, the Asian kid, forget his name, that, okay, he's going to be the main kid. But then it seems like the main kid is either a toss-up between Miranda Cosgrove and the drummer boy. But then you kind of go back.

Oh, and the guitar is. Then as we're talking, we're like, oh, wait, it's kind of like inequality here in terms of treatment. And the heavy got some great comedic beats. I love the bouncer kid. Oh, yeah, the bouncer kid. Yeah, the ensemble was strong. And I think Jack Black, that whole thing of, you know, a person who's not really teacher infiltrating school or is paying to be a babysitter. Like, that's a genre of its own, right?

Kindergarten car. Yeah, yeah, it's just like that. It's a genre of its own. There's an action film called The Substitute. I don't know if you've ever seen that. No. Is that Robin Williams one? Not Patch Adams.

That's when he infiltrates being a doctor, right? Has Robin Williams ever pretended to be a teacher? I feel like he has. Or maybe I just think he should have. I mean, yeah, I've never seen Dead Poets Society. Dude, oh my God. Yeah, I've never seen that. That's one of those, like, you've seen Goodwill Hunting, right?

Of course. Okay, Goodwill Hunting. I've seen a long time. I've wanted to rewatch it because I haven't seen a very long time. That's a five-star film. But yeah, I think, like, in the first scene that Jack Black has with them, There's this very real chemistry. And it's really easy for kids in particular.

You can kind of feel a gap in chemistry a lot of the time because kids often, when directed, don't feel like they're being just themselves. Especially when you're like a Miranda Cosker of character. Yeah. That is supposed to be a, you know, very astute and precocious. But she doesn't feel like she's doing line readings. Exactly. That's 100%.

And sometimes it's been 20 years. I'm not insulting to a kid anymore. the kid who was the the flamboyant dresser oh yeah there was some line reading there were some line reasons where it sounded like he was definitely delivering some lines that were rehearsed yeah doing an affectation for the purpose of a joke

yeah if this had just come out like this year I wouldn't say that because he's a kid stupid seven or eight year old yeah now I'm gonna be like you're dumb get better at acting you're dumb I mean you haven't evolved the last 22 years now that you're 31 or so yeah hope he took classes like he was funny

It's probably an accountant now. But that was one of the only times with the children. Yeah. I don't know. The only times with the children where I felt the acting of it. And that was rare. I agree. Most of the time they felt like real kids and the chemistry felt so so true.

So cool seeing Jack Black in that role with them too. Like that honestness that is Jack Black and that energy and like, you know, you took some jabs at the top. Maybe better to learn to be a team player when you're a manic person. But it definitely was beautiful to see. that warmth be directed at the right audience. Like, I imagine, like, Jack Black would not do well at, like, you know, a polo club. But it was cool to see him in this environment where it was played as a positive, not a negative. Well, what I'm bringing it back to what you said about the top, too.

The movie does an excellent, excellent job of at first throwing you into kind of the band teams, the band's perspective of how he is, which... A lot to deal with. Yeah, a lot to deal with. You seem like you're a bit narcissistic. like you just want to be about you yeah this is about you and there's never this moment in the movie where they stop or the kids stop it or whatever and they're like you need to learn to be a team player you're selfish or any of those things they never do that he even give him the scene on the bus where he's like um taking accountability and like come on move on you know yeah and

i love how natural he actually goes through that bigger arc i loved it for a movie that ends being an after-school special, it never felt like an after-school special. No, it never felt like they were talking to the audience about what the lesson is. All the beats of an after-school special, which it, by definition, becomes, are never present. And when you're doing a movie about music, you know, like Bohemian Rhapsody, I'm bringing this up for a reason. Bohemian Rhapsody, I don't really remember that film that well. That's okay. But I remember being like, for a movie that's about, you know, defying tradition.

You sure are falling a lot of beats. It sure seem like the most cliche Bible pick I've ever seen. a gay icon. This movie sure ignores a lot of that importance. And I would say this film is a musical in its own right. Yeah. With some original songs and some covers. And it does feel like a natural flow. Like,

they start doing the cool camera work. They wait. They hold off on it until the kids start to play with them. So that way you feel the flow with them. Yeah. It opens up. I could see a version where some people would listen to us and be like, it ain't that

deep. And I'm like, I think it kind of is. And that's why I feel like this movie has stood the test of time, because it's not just funny. It's not just cute and it's not just feel good. It's all those things because of all these other things. I think it's really interesting that that comment does come up fairly often. And it's like, I suppose I could eat my sandwich without condiments, but I could also enjoy it. Like, it's an interesting way to look at life when you're like, it's an interesting way to look at life when you're like, how can I make this a linear experience when there are colors to paint with? Right.

When I'm looking at a director that actually does their job, I'm looking at those extra. a Crayola boxes that they expanded out to instead of the seven colors. So I think this did a really good job making choices that allowed us to dissect it for, this was one of her longest reviews. It's pretty good. We've been talking for a while. For a straightforward

comedy. Yeah. So like that's a testament to a writer, a director, an actor, an ensemble that have earned that. And I think that's like you said, why it stood the test of time. This was really special. And I link later has always been one of my favorite directors. This was a really great example of like an undiscovered gem

for me to go like oh and that's why yes i will say joan cusack is probably the thing that surprised me the most she was so good out of everything that i was surprised by the amount of nuance there is but i kind of expect that from richard link later because i've heard the name richard link later my whole life sure and so i wouldn't i was i wasn't expecting just walk into like just a comedy yeah i was just like black comedy but joan cusac when her characters present i'm like here we go uptight principal yeah oh my god the threat and this undoubtedly i've seen joan kusack's one of those people who i've seen show up and pop up in so many things and i can't tell you one of them right now can't tell you any of them i've heard her do a lot of vio as

well a lot of animated properties because she kind of plays to the archetype that is the way how jack black is she there's a joan kusack and this was the most of a character of joan kusk that i've personally been exposed to my limited exposure with her that will actually stick with me her character here was one that I did not think there would be a connection to but that also is a testament to the strength of Jack Black's character as I love that like he doesn't have to do a complete arc he does I don't know what I'm trying to say it doesn't have to change it's a entirely yeah what it's like oh those strengths of why he it's about magnifying the strengths of already in there for being misunderstood on those qualities kind of like with the kids and

Joan Crawford's probably better Joe Cusack is probably a better teacher for her being able to be looser and like that's a beautiful thing about her arc is it gets to feel full but she's not any less her at the end this was a really sweet sweet film school of rock way to be everything we hoped i loved it i loved it absolutely loved it i would like to watch more of his films dude i really am excited to hear i cannot wait for your personal i i spoke highly of warrior for a very long time and you had a very they were one of the people that i thought of before i turned on like oh boy i saw two movies all you were gone that you focused on your trip yeah you did

very different movies but like I've talked a long time about Warrior being my favorite sports film and how impactful it was I think as much as Warrior was impactful for you because of the skill of the film the acting but also your experience

I think the before trilogy is likewise going to be one of those films where you get into it and you're like oh there's a before I watched this movie yeah and there's an after and I think that's gonna really give you a link later like masterclass absolutely I can I say one last thing

If for a movie about inspiring, I felt inspired. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, it made me want to create. And it made me want to go back and listen to the music. I'm going to go listen to ACDC and God's back and drive home. I love classic rock growing up. I listened to it so much. And it really did have that inspirational feel of something that was very specific, I would say.

And specificity is the way you get motivated, right? Like, you could watch 300, be like, I should get some abs. And then you walk out. You're like, I screw it. I'm out of momentum. My movie's over. Yeah. This is one that could, I think, have kind of a gestating affect.

And the way how Warrior allowed me to kind of open up a couple of conversations in my life, the way how we covered some of those quote unquote hood movies that you get to Don't Be a Menace that inspired, like, other conversations in my personal life. Yeah. And I feel like this is going to, this can start a new trajectory for me in my personal life on my own time of exploring creativity again. So thank you. I came into this exhaustive. like I said at the top and I'm feeling like I can do the rest of my day. Like I didn't even know.

Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah. I didn't even know if I had it in me. This gave me enough fuel in the tank. I didn't even think about that. We we started we sound completely different. You said you were empty. Yeah. And you made a Dementor sound at the start of this. And now we're ending it. I'm like, I got stuff to do. I'm going to do it. And if there's any like I said, I want to I guess I'm one of my missions, my missions in life is to make it clear now what this channel's really all about. And I didn't even think about that when I, I care so much about demonstrating and reminding people about the emotional impact movies can have. Yeah.

And I was telling you yesterday in a private conversation, Warriors, an easy example. I'm crying all the time and stuff. And that's not this. It's not that heavy film. Yet I'm like, oh, wow, my mood feels entire. My head feels entirely different than when we started. We should have Roxy clip the beginning of us, body language at the end of us. Yeah.

We should do like a little like VATCH because it's, to me, the gym is often the thing that I think I'm too tired to go to gym. I'm at the gym in the first 10 minutes. I'm too tired to be at the gym. But when I leave the gym, I have more energy. Coming into this, I was like, I don't have a two-hour movie in me. I got, I got to go sleep. And now I'm like, I can get my stuff done. Yeah. Like, that is the beauty of art. So I feel better. This was a magical. Richard Linklater. I know you watch two hour reactions. Thanks, man. Yeah. Dude, link later means the world to me. I'd love to know in the comments below. What are your favorite link later films? What do you think of school to rock? Was this an enjoyable experience for you? Let us know in the comments below. Leave a like.

you know, because it helps the algorithm subscribe if you're not already. I don't know why I'm he was in the chair, but I was I was wrapping it out of here. Yeah. Took the solo. Much love to each and everyone of you, Regignation. We absolutely adore that much like a movie about

someone getting to do their passions for a living and it going a very different way than they expected. I thought I wanted to be an actor and I realized, boy do I hate repetition, but I love hosting and I love sharing an art with you. So just like Jack Black became a teacher and found his love you reject nation are what i love to share art with so thank you so leaping much

we'll see you for the next one bye