The Reel Rejects - SCOTT PILGRIM TAKES OFF Episodes 7 & 8 FINALE REVIEW!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:27 How are you? I am, yeah, I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss it. I'm decided in this moment. Oh, good. Guys, leave a like. Thank you to everyone who's been here for this journey with us. Also, big thank you to all who have joined us over at our Patreon page for Scott Pilgrim takes off. We also cover several things over there exclusively with highlights and watchongs included. That is where you can catch the full-length direction watch along where you sync up with your own copy. All righty, guys. Let's see what's going on. And also thank you to Pepper for helping to send it down these highlights. Let's go to it.

Starting point is 00:01:58 Time for the real game to begin. The goose is loose. Honk, hong, fuckers. Tease for the second season. Dude. All right, so, okay, let's immediately rank it. Is it better than the movie? Come on, John.

Starting point is 00:02:14 It's better than the books. It's better than anything you've ever seen before. A lot. Just go. Just go. This has at least more breathing room to maybe create a different sort of more nuanced emotional impact. Wow. Recency bias. Wow. I mean the nothing beats the movie. Screw this. I don't like art at all unless Edgar Wright made it. That means my pool of art is precious limited. God,

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Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah, that was fun. That was great. I think those last two episodes, it was funny because, like, the pen ultimate for us, but not the real penultimate. Penultimate two. I found myself craving a little bit more development for Ramona since the focus was on her. Yeah. And it's a fun little flipparoo, a great inverse of things, where you find out that it's been from Ramona and Scott's perspective this entire time. the character you spent the most time with is Ramona.

Starting point is 00:03:58 However, it has also still been from Scott's perspective. Yeah, which is really cool. Yeah, it's a great way to make you go see. We didn't go, we didn't fully piss that certain crowd off. They just needed to not rage quit long enough to get here to see it. It needed to get her to the end. But the author behind this, I don't know any of the behind the scenes information on it, but the telling of this is great because,

Starting point is 00:04:25 I really feel like it captured the heart underneath the caricature of everyone here. And like, especially about the time you get to the end, it really seemed like it had a softer, sympathetic approach. You can feel the writer going, you know, I like these guys. And I want to see a little bit more of the love underneath everyone and how at the end of the day, all these people who have become obsessive freaks over Ramona, they're all broken individuals. Yeah. And this is a significant motivator. for various aspects of their lives

Starting point is 00:04:57 that they might not be able to admit. Not everyone got like the most development, I would say, you know, like the twins didn't really get development. And I mean, it's a nice subversion, but yeah, it's like they don't really get a fight or anything like that. And when they do show up,

Starting point is 00:05:11 it's almost always kind of just facilitate something. And I thought, like, while they had in the live action movie, at least while I liked their sequence with the music battle, the battle of the bands, it's still, they were still like the least,

Starting point is 00:05:25 interesting characters to me because they didn't really get character yeah they didn't really speak much yeah yeah so like their fight is the most interesting thing about them but they do get them a very important plot point via creation of the robot yeah and i mean the nanotan like they're they're the the the accomplices and the like r&D department for so many of the machinations that that affects scott and romona throughout those yeah a thousand percent man i mean i thought the show was very beautiful and it it's an inspiration of like 80s and 90s video games and anime and it really feels like an embodiment of all of it. It doesn't just feel like it's something that is on the surface level paying homage.

Starting point is 00:06:06 There's something that speaks from a genuine part. Again, the word that keeps coming in mind is you can feel the soul behind it, not just notes of things they wanted to attempt. It feels naturally from within that is coming out. When I say the word expressive, I'm not using that word lightly because it really does feel like an expression of soul here yeah it's super evocative like it has so much kind of emotional richness to it and that sometimes in small you know little ways that are kind of precious and then in other times it's in big overflowing ways that are very sort of uh all-encompassing or very like

Starting point is 00:06:44 relatable in a in a grander way and uh and yeah like this and while you don't spend a lot of time with Ramona and Scott, it's still an epic love story. 100% because you feel the, you feel about this love story than I did in the movie. Yeah, yeah, I would agree. And you feel it kind of from both their perspectives. And I like that it lets you sit in the bitter sweetness that love can be because, I mean, there's so much, like the rush of love, you know, can often come with that sort of like, I don't know, it's a different kind of rush.

Starting point is 00:07:14 It's almost like the rush of falling literally when, you know, that love is threatened or that love is called into question in any way, shape, or form. And, you know, there's so much about uncertainty, and this culminates in a way where it's like, don't let your, you know, fear of the future based on the past, you know, wreck your present almost, like, the way that it wove. It's like, we've seen this in things before and even recently, especially with, like, the older version coming and finding the young version. And it's, like, kind of wondrous or fun at first.

Starting point is 00:07:47 And then it turns out dark. But I thought this was a particular. particularly nice light year yeah light year uh flash uh you know various it's a trope that that is a well-worn sci-fi thing that's a passion of christ too is about definitely i'm like jesus listen maybe we shouldn't get on the cross maybe we should just deck judas right there you know take those pieces of silver start a church of our own you know if i just embrace the socio-economic restriction. Essentially with the last temptation of crisis.

Starting point is 00:08:22 Oh, reaction. Ain't never seen it. Except that isn't Jesus coming back. Isn't it Willie Defoe is my man? Is my man G's? Yeah. Yeah, I want to see it. I want to see it.

Starting point is 00:08:32 Oh my God, they should make Willem Defoe Scott Pilgrim. See, it would be a great older Scott Pilgrim. If they ever made another live action movie, I think that'd be really funny if we did that. But, yeah, we've seen this thing of the older self coming back and it being a grim, cautionary tale, but I really like the way that they complimented that by bringing Ramona's in as well and then giving the greatest

Starting point is 00:08:53 payoff in a sense to her in that moment, complimented everything that came before and especially as she is, you know, like so much of the story is instead of it, yeah, being Scott sort of learning to not be insecure about all these evil exes. It's more about

Starting point is 00:09:09 Ramona learning to let go of all these people that she pushed away because of yeah, her own fear like you know sabotaging for fear of of this thing failing you know self-sabotage yeah it's a story of self-love as well yeah self-forgiveness you know yeah and and and and i did feel for them wanting to wanting to make the love work there's a bit of an eternal sunshine vibe to it yeah because it is that thing of like well you know we're gonna spend the time together but ultimately it's gonna wind up in tragedy and maybe it's just better to never have to deal with that and it's also kind of like

Starting point is 00:09:42 the time machine it's that thing of like if you the more you try and avoid something the more you're going to bring it about so why not just live in the moment but it's still an arc for scott too you know like seeing who he is in the future like it goes past the movie yeah and it doesn't i thought maybe they were going to go extremely meta where you see where scott's the alternate version is i feel like the implication is for future scott older scott is here's what happened after the movie yeah that's kind of like the the implication yeah right um and then you see that they didn't have a happily ever after but they could have just made a work if he matured yeah but he like jumped ship too early instead of working through it you know yeah

Starting point is 00:10:28 and and he just became an obsessive escape of uh individual too like he never truly grew up and he never fully realized yeah what the real thing to blame was yeah so i think uh they they both get like a character arc and it shows that for the relationship to work they both have to work on each other's individual things yeah and not it's not just a story about them realizing like oh i need to learn one thing about myself like it goes deeper than that and again it doesn't feel like pretentiously deep it because the movie the show still keeps it extremely whimsical extremely vibrant uh everything is like ram to an 11 here and uh and i thought that it was also very tender and new nuanced. I was really impressed with this show, man. It gave us something very, very different. And it took a tad bit of readjusting and a little bit to see where it goes. But I also get why this is a binge show as well. Yeah. This actually feels like appropriately. This is one of those shows that could work as either, but I actually think it's better as a binge. The well-roundedness of the story, I think will shine especially bright if you binge it. But I do think that remarkably, especially for the, the, the, the, To be on the platform that streamlined and created the structure, you know, the literal structure of shows that bolsters this binge format, you know, this is an example of something that's not just, I make sure it's got a gripping opening and a gripping cliffhanger. It's like these actually function well as pieces. They feel like issues out of a greater like compendium. And yeah, like they do absolutely work on their own.

Starting point is 00:12:09 but as, you know, we kind of talked about on the last one after episode six, like the totality, I think, yeah, will shine really, really bright as just one whole go. Yeah, I like Ramona Flowers way more here than I did in the film. It's a, as an honest take. And I like Scott more.

Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of weird because Scott's not in it as much, but I do like Scott and Ramona more. Yeah. And I think, again, if you've seen the movie, I think that balances out nicely because we've spent a lot of... Well, they work as a good companion. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah. It's funny, like the characters are well written and well drawn in a way that makes it so that, yeah, they compliment. And then I think just, you know, the other thing, too, is like it's really nice that all these actors are also really solid for the voice acting they need from this. Yeah. Because not everybody translates. And yeah, there's something about, I think, the fact that, you know, we know Michael Sarah. So many of us have seen the movie. So we've spent the time with him. And then the first episode, I think, giving you so much familiar. I never felt like he was too far away even when I didn't know that he was like watching over things with the robot and yeah like Ramona is a solid character and it's like while you know in the movie both of their flaws are also represented like this is yeah it's like you can see her involvement in all this and it's just I don't just seemed you you could seem her involvement in spinning the web that we're dealing with right now or yeah but but but also how really quick I mean first how how how young Scott got Ramona to realize that the older Ramona to realize that, hey, you know, the journey of Scott being taken out of the equation and losing to the X instead actually led Ramona down a path that was better for her, like the healing process that she went through and everything. So inadvertently, by taking him out, it actually... It made things better for everybody.

Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah, it made things better for literally everybody. Yeah. Except for older, Scott. But, you know. It's a great subversion because you... you don't in any way miss out on the fights and the action, which is fun. And then the dynamic flips around and you sort of find what else these people have to fight for. And like, yeah, there are confrontations.

Starting point is 00:14:21 But yeah, I just think that's like a such a nice rich, like it would work without the movie. And I think it's a really nice play off the movie because, yeah, instead of this one guy fighting to A, prove his adequacy to himself and B, win the heart of girl. Yeah, this is just such a more quality. It's like it's a very appropriate thing to do for the here and now and people whinge every time you make something from a female perspective that has a man's name of the title. But, you know, it's her story in so many ways. And, yeah, it's absolutely just a lovely thing they chose to do. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:57 I think it's really cool that they made something that I think the sell on it. I think that's probably the problem with the marketing is the cell makes you think. you're just going to watch an anime version of the movie yeah and they don't really i mean they they want to leave you surprised yeah which is also like the great thing about it um however i don't know i feel like maybe there was there could have been like a quarter maybe not a middle ground but like a quarter leaning into that we're really going to do something very different you know and take it a very different direction sure without spoiling it i don't really know i'm not a mark i'm not good at marketing so i don't really know what the fuck it would be

Starting point is 00:15:36 however yeah like I think it's a great I think if you watch the movie and then you watch this they work perfectly together because and I think this works better if you see the movie yeah 100% you just you'll there's there's a lot more yeah it'll be a fuller context like I think this is super rich on its own but yeah there'll be a much fuller context and I and too I don't know it's one of those things where they made all these changes but I don't feel like it in any way betrays any of these characters and it's nice to see these cartoons take on, you know, in the live action movie, they are certainly cartoons and then to get a character like Lucas Lee or any of them, you know, really, but you know, to give them flesh and flavor and heal certain things beyond just the thing that makes them an evil X, like all that stuff is fun, but we find fun in other parts of them and in ways in which we don't need to keep them broken in these specific ways. And I think

Starting point is 00:16:33 that's just a nice maturity of of characterization yeah and just yeah his whole like that that one thing brian leo mali said about like approaching this as like a sort of reflection on as a means of making it its own unique thing i think is a beautifully rendered approach at least by this final product yeah i thought it was amazing man yeah this is really terrific i thought it was really amazing beautiful animation all the way through yeah wonderfully shot uh like everything felt hand drawn. Even if it isn't, it felt hand drawn. Every shot felt incredibly selective.

Starting point is 00:17:07 Everything felt like it had tender love and care. You know, every element felt this, you know, just feels like living art, you know? The way you say the kind of compliments you would give across the Spider-verse, I would say they keep that consistent here for every minute of every one

Starting point is 00:17:24 of these episodes. Yeah, it has that or it almost has, like Spider-verse has it and even different sort of kind of thing, but everything everywhere, all at once or just things that have this like mad cap quality and they're throwing like so much at you yet they also have such a keen eye and a compassionate eye towards just emotion and character and nuance and things like that and so yeah you feel like you just took in the semi overwhelming thing that has so much in it and yet somehow despite all the potential that a spiderverse

Starting point is 00:17:55 or everything ever or this present this somehow feels like a definitive version well it's also so self-aware. The way how they keep it modern day, but they imagine it in the way of like, how would someone in the 80s or 90s devise this plot? Yeah. You know, but by keeping him, like, I love when he goes to the future and it's like not that far in the future, but everything is like a

Starting point is 00:18:14 dystopia. Like, older Scott. The chillest dystopia. Yeah. And older Scott is like so old, even though he's just 37 years old. But they play it like, that, that classic thing that you would see in like 80s, like Wallace is just gray.

Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah, it looks like the same but gray hair. I'm like, that's exactly like how these 80s movies would do like somebody up. Yeah, just make their hair great. And now they're older. And now it's just 10 years from now, but there's so much older now. Yeah, yeah, totally. And just like, I don't know,

Starting point is 00:18:46 the way it incorporates all, it's like it has specific pop culture references, but yeah, the way it amalgamates just so much, yeah, of like retro, futurism and in fun, silly ways, you know. Yeah, there's so much. It's exciting, had punch.

Starting point is 00:19:01 I love the original music that they had throughout as well. You know, normally with Scott Pilgrim, you kind of think, yeah, like they have the music that is created within it for, like, the characters using it. But I'm just talking about, like, the, when scenes are happening and you got a bit of that. Yeah, like, eight-bit chip tune kind of. Yeah, yeah, it's a good way to put it. Overall, man, I'm like a, I'm like a, I don't know, I don't know what I really Chris has about. I thought it was pretty near perfect for what they set out to do, honestly, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:30 Absolutely. I agree. 9.999.999. Yeah. Just give it a 10. Just go for it. Yeah, John, go for it. All right. I'll give it at 11.

Starting point is 00:19:39 Thanks, John. You're welcome. It's an extra point for the both. It's really good. Yeah, anytime. All righty, guys. Well, what did you think of Scott Pilgrim takes off? Do you prefer it over the movie?

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The Reel Rejects - SCOTT PILGRIM TAKES OFF Episodes 7 & 8 FINALE REVIEW!!!

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