The Reel Rejects - Scream 7 DISASTER! Melissa Barrera Fired, Jenna Ortega LEAVES, Superman Lex Luthor Casting, & MORE!
Episode Date: November 23, 2023WHAT A WEEK FOR HOLIDAY NEWS! Melissa Barrera Fired From Scream 7, Jenna Ortega Leaves Scream 7, James Gunn's Superman Legacy has found it's Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult) & Jimmy Olsen, The Marvels Has... A Record Breaking Box Office DROP For Comic Book Movies (Worst for the MCU By far), & There are also talks about Silver Surfer being female, Spider-Man 4 finally crossing over with the likes of Madame Web, Kraven The Hunter, Venom, & Morbius. Creed 4 is a go, Jason Bourne gets a fifth, and surely we will give our thoughts & theories on the current state of the Marvel Cinematic Universe & DC Universe (Formerly DCEU) with films like Avengers Kang Dynasty, Avengers Secret Wars, Fantastic Four, Deadpool 3 with Hugh Jackman Wolverine, Aquaman The Lost Kingdom, The Batman 2, Joker 2, all set to come within the next year! #Scream #Scream7 #Ghostface #Superman Jenna Ortega Leaves Scream 7 #SupermanLegacy #TheMarvels #CaptainMarvel #MsMarvel #Deadpool #Blade #FantasticFour #Avengers #AvengersSecretWars Become A Patron-O-Ject Supporter For Full-Length T.V. Show REACTIONS & Q&A'S!!! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG On INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Normally we go live on, like, Fridays or Saturdays, but with it being Thanksgiving weekend.
We thought we do our live on Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
And plus we got Doctor Who coming out on Saturday.
And, okay, so a couple of things we want to get out of the way.
Things we're going to talk about today that I did not think it would be the thing that is going to be so predominant.
But we have updates about Scream 7.
Many of you guys, I'm sure, have heard by now about lead actress, the star of the latest installments of Scream.
Melissa Barrera, she has been fired.
and now it got reported officially.
General Ortega has also left.
And so we're going to talk about, yeah, positive news.
Yes, guys, we're all happy.
Genocide wins.
So, yeah, so we have that.
And then, you know, like, we wanted to talk.
There's like a big variety of things that you guys helped dictate the entire stream
based about what's going on in the chat if you haven't been here before.
But, you know, like there's other things that we've been hearing about.
Superman legacy casting with Nicholas Holt.
and you know we also have like marvel's box office and there's a whole bunch of other things as well
massive thank you to everyone who did contribute to the last stream i was not present for that one
but i saw you guys were extremely generous and that really helps out a lot because playbacks on
these are not the greatest uh so the support that you guys show it's a it really does go to
help out significantly but we always stay in tune with the chat image you can't contribute
that's A-OK.
We just want to just talk about some stuff.
You know, it's fun to actually do a live stream
that's not just about Marble and D.C.
I'm sure that will be a big part of the topics for today.
Yeah, and even if it took some pretty controversial
and harsh news to get us talking about something
other than Marvel and D.C.
Yeah, a thousand percent.
Which those whoops were jokes, people.
I'm not happy that they have been fired.
It's actually pretty messed up and we're going to talk about it.
Okay, so let's talk about the first thing.
Let's just get it out of the way.
Let's talk about the main thing here.
Melissa, and also for you're here, for you being here,
please go ahead, leave a like on this video.
That would mean a lot.
All righty, Melissa Barrera fired from Scroom 7.
So she plays the lead character whose name I am totally blanking on right now.
Sam Carpenter.
The Carpenter sisters, yes, Sam Carpenter.
And you know what, John, we do not.
We, this is, our lives streams are extremely hanging out.
If you want professionalism set up with tech crew and all that,
that's what the John Campia show is for.
Okay.
And then maybe Star Wars Theory or something.
What did Spyglass say exactly?
Because this was the part.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we should get what Spyglass said.
Yeah.
Because that shit is kind of baffling on what they said.
John, while I'm pulling that up,
why don't you, you know, kill the time here and tell us what you,
what happened?
What comes to memory here while I'm typing nothing.
I mean, yeah, I recall Spyglass releasing a statement of some sort, basically to the effect that, you know, we don't tolerate any type of anti-Semitism or false claims of genocide or ethnic cleansing or any other of those, you know, pretty harsh buzzwords.
And so they are basically implying that most of the things that Melissa Barrera was posting are, you know, false or misinformation.
and you know they are taking a no tolerance stance on that you know I think a lot of us in the chat
have probably all seen her post by now but but yeah she's been let go for basically you know
expressing a very pro-Palestine free Palestine stance essentially
okay here it is I found it I found it hey here's what it says in time
spy glasses stance is unequivocally clear we have zero taller spy glasses are
the producers of the screen franchise.
And here's the thing, guys.
The Screen Franchise is my favorite horror movie franchise.
So while it's not like the biggest number generator for us on the channel or some shit
like that, this is one that I'm going to be following closely because this is my favorite
horror franchise.
Spike Glass stance is unequivocally clear.
We have zero tolerance for anti-Semitism or the incitement of hate in any form, including
false references to genocide, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust distortion, or anything that flagrantly
crosses the line into hate speech.
Now, here's the interesting part
about it. You can find,
does someone put together a giant
thread on Twitter? Because
when this got released,
normally when something like this happens,
you can kind of see it coming.
Where perhaps Melissa
Barrera was saying some shit online
and then you start seeing on social media
people calling for her to be fired.
You know, like fired this woman
or whatever. And then
that wasn't happening.
so this was sort of unexpected
and then people were
pretty much going
where's the anti-Semitism
where's the part where she is clearly
when this thing that spyglass is saying
where is that and it's just a lot of people going
wait I'll find it
give me a second if you squint hard enough
give me a second I mean there
there are a couple of posts in there
that flirt with confusing the
but even those aren't very blatant or at least they are unclear and that's kind of how they're
interpretable as you know yeah i mean for the when you boil it down to what she's and and look john
and i are not going to be the ones that you're going to go to for um the the political conversation
on what's going on in is real we're very much so learning about all this and it's a big
thick confusing issue to balance out in your head yeah yes and it's it's very it's very
complex and the whole thing though that what all I can speak to is what Melissa
Barrera has been talking about and when it essentially boils down to is her she's been saying
I want the I want to ceasefire and I want the hostages return she has made it very clear
that she is not anti-subile she supports Jewish people and Palestinian people that it's not
about when she's saying
like Free Palestine, when she is talking
specifically about
being anti-genocide
or like for me, you know,
when you see like the atrocities that are
happening to innocent civilians,
that's what she is talking about.
You know, the casualties of war are usually being
civilians. And so that is
where her heart and her messaging
has been and been talking about
how she feels like the media
is primarily focusing on the Israel side
and not so much of what's going on with the Palestinian.
So that's all it's really been.
She hasn't been anti-Jews.
She's bent over backwards in a lot of these posts to differentiate, like, you know,
the IDF is not all of the regular people living in Israel,
is not the Jewish people, Hamas is not the entirety of the Palestinian people.
There are a lot of just regular humans caught up in this that are, you know,
bearing the brunt of, you know, the violence and the atrocity and whatnot.
And, yeah, I feel like, you know,
She is, and there are, you know, plenty of Jewish people who do not support, you know, these actions as well, and she acknowledges that.
And, yeah, I don't know.
She's been, it seems pretty careful not to flippantly dismiss any one group or culture people with these posts.
She's also been extremely clear on her stance for the, like, there has been sentiments that she is at echo that I have said on my social media as well.
Because, like I said, I'm not the most well informed.
The part, I started really learning about this recently.
Like, we got people here who come on the channel, who I'm not going to say it.
Some people have brought them up into chat, you know, that I've talked extensively about it with them.
My wife is actually very well informed on these matters as well, what's going on in Israel and Palestine.
And it's something that I've just been learning about.
And the part that speaks to me the most, like, there's been times where I look more out of it than I already normally do.
We're like, John and Coy have come into the room.
and they're asking me why
I look out and I'm like
I was just up all night
Is it just the normal reasons?
It's like heart wrenching terror
Like I'll be up all night
There are been times where I'm just up all night
Like watching the raw videos
Of what's happening to like the children
I'm trying to watch some of my words here
Of what's happening to the children out there
And that's the stuff that really fucks with me basically
And so with her sentiments
I've always been about that
And her sentiments have also been about how, hey, look, we might disagree with what's going on with the governments.
But that doesn't mean that we have to be prejudiced against Palestinian people or Jewish people.
And she's pretty explicit about that.
So all this to say, I vehemently disagree with Spy Glass's decision to firing her and the way they formulate it about because it's already hard enough for it.
an actress, an ethnic actress at
that, to get work
and to essentially
blacklist them in this way
is so fucked up.
It's messed up. And they're also ruining the franchise.
And now, General Ortega herself
is reportedly left
the franchise as well. And now
there was already the speculation prior
that she'll be leaving. Oh my God, we got a couple
of super, I didn't even realize we got so focused on the conference.
Thank you for the super jazz. Thank you guys. We will get
to them, I promise. Yeah, absolutely. And then the other
part is like, General Ortega now has
left the franchise and you know there was already reports that she might be leaving due to her scheduling with Wednesday and because she's a busy woman she's a superstar and she got to finish beetle juice too as well yeah yeah I've had like two days left on film me those two days yeah yeah um needless to say this is left a really negative stain on the scream franchise like it's everything they do now is just gonna there was something that felt like
Like a true, like, if you look at the Scream franchise after West Craven's passing,
to then get different filmmakers involved,
you needed filmmakers who really knew this world and really understood the voice of it
and could also bring their own voice to it.
And then they had to create new characters you can get invested into.
And granted, you know, I think we were kind of on the same.
I think you liked Melissa Barrera's performance more than I did in Scream 5.
but by Scream 6
I loved what she did
and I was so on board to see like
man what are they going to do with her character
it seemed like are we watching
a secret origin of a new ghost
face this entire time
you know that's kind of the impression I was getting
I wanted to see it unfold
and of course Jenna Ortega being one of the best
actresses working today
to lose these two who are the new faces
of them we've already lost Neve Campbell
I feel
like the Scream franchise
is now in just utter disarray
and it has drastically affected
my emotional association
with the franchise now
just from how they're handling
in it. Even the director came out
said something along the lines of
this. I don't really have a comment on this.
This sucks. It was not my decision.
Yeah. You know?
It's really fucked up
what's going on and I do not agree with the fire.
I know there's a lot of like what aboutism
already occurring on the internet.
of comparing it to other people's situations.
I do think it's unfair when you see celebrities
on the complete opposite side of the stuff
Melissa Barrera has been posting,
but the sentiment is pretty much the same.
You know, like, we don't want these civilians
to be getting slaughtered.
Yeah, it's just not as cut and dry
as, you know, people being removed from things
for, you know, intimate misconduct, I guess I'll say,
or, you know, violence or things like that.
that, you know, this zeroes you in on the idea that whoever's making the decisions
it's by glass, or like with the Susan Sarandon situation getting dropped from her
representation, you know, this comes down to something, I think, a bit more complex than just
a universal ideal of, like, racism is probably bad, or, you know, being a sex pest is
probably bad. Yeah. You know, it's like agreeably bad. Whereas this, yeah, I think there are a lot
of misconstruings of, you know, sympathies toward the regular Palestinian people and turning
that into anti-Semitism. And that's one of the big problems of the culture.
Hey, 3C. Oh, you know, 3C. Hey, Chris, in the chat. Thank you.
Hey. We were going to get to, guys, Chris did put out a video about this yesterday. And
it's a really, it's a short, it's a brief one, but it's, I think he speaks, he speaks, he speaks
sufficiently on the matter that I think is very impactful at the same time.
And I think he echoes a lot of the feelings that we're all essentially feeling.
Yeah.
And I mean, this is, I mean, you know, private companies can do what they want.
But this is one of those things where this is an ongoing situation.
It's very muddy and it's based on a lot of complicated history.
And reading her posts and seeing how careful and careful both in terms of like phrasing,
but also careful in terms of compassion.
She seems like she was trying to be.
it does smack of something different than just like,
oh, you stepped out of line and you need to be punished for this.
It does feel like somebody at the top of Spyglass
just has a distinct ideological disagreement here.
And so, yeah, it doesn't feel fair
in the same way that, like, somebody being booted
for actual bad behavior feels somehow fair.
Someone in the chat.
What?
Someone in the chat said,
pre palpity.
You never know when you're going to get a little levity.
Chad's going to find so fast that I almost missed it.
It's okay.
Free Palpatine as well.
Maybe he'll chill out.
Maybe the galaxy will be better for it.
Jesus Christ.
I don't know.
There are a million trillion things to say about this, but it does seem dissonant.
Well, yeah.
I mean, again, like people are bringing up, hey, they've got the, you know, like Noah Schnapp.
I don't really know what Noah Schnapp.
schnapps.
Alasaw was the one post going around.
It's kind of the opposite is him kind of,
yeah.
Very, very pro, distinctly pro-Israel and mocking, you know, the other side cause.
Right.
Essentially.
And that's kind of the point of, it's kind of weird with like her talking about the
unfairness in the media.
Well, and then you see what happens this is this ran and Tom Cruise having to step in
and save his agent, you know, it's like a whole bag of words in and of itself.
Yeah, it's kind of fucked.
It's a really messed up situation.
And at the end of the day, like, what it boils down to, guys, is like, regardless of the political sentiments, you got to look at what she was actually saying and what the intent is.
And it's not what Spyglass is saying that she said.
It's just plain and simple, it's not.
Yeah.
And no matter what aboutisms we do or what other situations we want to compare it to, let's just look at the immediate situation right now.
And it's not what she did.
But I would be curious to, at least that's my take on it.
That's my take on it.
What do you guys in the chat feel about it?
Yeah.
It's a super subjective interpretation.
Yeah, definitely.
Of her words.
I know it's easy to say, can we have a non-political stream?
But the firing is unfortunately due to, there's a politicism.
We're not giving you the history of the conflict, but it does.
Yeah.
Her comments on it, we have to at least kind of dive into that side of the pool a little bit.
Yeah.
Do you guys think that Melissa should have been fired?
I'll ask you guys in the chat right now.
And we'll move on to some other subjects.
Yeah.
I want to check out these super chats, see what's going on in there.
But, yeah, there's other topics we do want to get to.
This is the main one that's been on our mind.
John and I were talking about really late last night.
Yeah, and it's just one of those instances where I do think, you know, as much as people
whinge about like, ah, swift motion when somebody really steps out of line.
This is a situation where I'm like, I don't know, even if you guys disagree, you could
have had some kind of dialogue.
or come to the table or something.
Yeah, I don't know.
Certain schools of thought will take any sympathy toward Palestine
as just anti-Semitism, basically.
I mean, it seems like everyone in the chat
is very much saying no.
I don't see anyone saying that she should have been fired.
No, I don't think it makes any sense.
Yeah, and there's some people who are saying that, like,
hey, maybe they might hire her back.
Part of me is like, would you want to get hired back?
Yeah, and people are also talking about, like,
put in Neve Campbell now. It's the only way to save it.
And I'm like, what's it going to say if Neb Campbell's
accepts that?
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know
what they're going to do. And it seems like we finally
got to the point with Scream 6 where I cared
about the Core 4 completely, because
I actually think we were pretty close on
Scream 5. Like, I
you know, wanted
to like her performance more
in that movie, and then I loved her in Scream 6.
So I'm glad she got to make her mark, but I'm also
sad we don't get to see that through.
Spike Glass should be
fired from your own company yeah i mean i i read through most of that giant twitter thread
that they put out of like most of her post and i'm just trying to find i was trying i was really
examining to try to be like is there something here that i am totally missing uh is there it's like
a rorschach like i heard the headline and it was before people started responding so i was like
oh god what did she do and i went and looked at this very thread and the further i read i was
like okay okay when's the either i am very distorted myself and cannot see this or where is the
anti-semitism happening and then people started to freak out about it i agree with um jeanine's comment
in the chat that yeah conversation should have been had it seems so impromptu i mean maybe there
was a conversation happening uh but at the end of the day she was standing by what she believes in
and she i guess she wants to be on the what she feels at the right side of history and something
And people feel like, hey, you're an actress, you shouldn't say this shit.
And it's like, well, it's her own personal social media.
You know what I mean?
And she's allowed to talk about whatever she wants as part of the free speech of things, you know.
And I don't feel like she, I don't think she was out of line.
No, I don't think she said something like completely insensitive or immoral.
Again, it's like even if you don't agree, I feel like there's so much nuance to this
and also to the way that she's posed her.
thoughts, you know, to the way that she's considered all the things that she's saying and addressed
criticism in these posts and stuff like that. Like, yeah, I don't know.
Alyssa said that Jenna's the one who told her she got fired.
Hmm. I wonder if that's true. Oh, goodness. I mean, you know, Jenna Ortega is, you know,
well documented in the chat here. It certainly shares similar views. So I can't imagine,
you know, she's heartbroken not to be back. Either way, even if she really does just have
Wednesday
scheduling issues or whatever
which the guy from Wednesday just got booted
for alleged misconduct
of a more concrete variety
weird
times. All right
well
all right
I mean
I'm just going to see what's going on
over here really quick
I want to read what Chris said
since we're on this subject and Chris is
one of the main
faces here of
3C films is
like when Scream stuff
is coming out like he's the go-to guy
I don't think Spyglass tanks
I don't think a lot of the average public
will really know about this
Oh but if Spyglass wants to offer us
If we want to be Sam and Tara we want to be Sam and Tara
We'll gladly take it
Yeah yeah yeah I just want to throw that out there
Bring the contract you can use my AI identity
We're totally okay
We're what you call
just following the crowd here.
We're cultural scavengers.
I'll say, I mean, the last thing,
I keep wanting to move on,
but, you know, it's a, it's an interesting thing
because I'm often seeing people going,
why aren't many celebrities speaking out
about what's going on right now?
And then something like this happens
when you hear about what's going,
what happened at CIA with Tom Cruise's agent,
when students ran in the down Belisa Barrera,
and you're like, oh, no wonder,
lot of people are really and it's not like we should expect people to which is usually when
something really big is happening in the world you hear a large influx of celebrities you know
yeah and you're hearing a lot of people who you might expect to say something like not even
like voice and opinion and it's not like we again we don't need to hear them it was just kind of
there wasn't attention drawn that you didn't hear them talk about it yeah these are usually the
people with the cultural water cooler and I mean it does it makes me just really quick it seems in my life
narrative of how things play out it's like we've had all this practice with these you know water cooler
issues that are like we said very cut and dry about the cultural confrontations of sexism
and racism all that stuff whereas this is like really murky and like it's dividing friends
dividing families and like people feel very very strongly and like the amount of information to
misinformation and all that other stuff is so dizzying that like I I I it makes me look back and I'm like we've already had trouble you know dealing with issues that are at least much more black and white than this is and now it's like the training wheels are off and we're on a motorcycle yeah issue like this and I agree I think it's daunting for a lot it's you know it's like I don't have much reason like no one comes to me in a public setting for like thoughts on this but this is one of those things where I'm like God even when I have a thought I'm like I got to I think about it's
it like five or six times then I don't want to speak I just want to go kind of listen
and take in and see what I can learn because I never feel like I know enough about
this yeah you know yeah it's you know I would say that the chat here for the
most part you know like obviously there's some people here or upsetting some people
absolutely support the LGBTQ community as as you'd expect there are
people here who are upsetting
at the same time
I think for the most part
you know
you guys are doing a pretty
civil job you are you are
it was a bit apprehensive about going
the last I was on a live stream was with the marvels
and that was rough for me
so to see this it is actually
pretty interesting but yeah we don't
I don't I don't I don't
not saying that I think celebrities they must
talk about it it's just there are some celebrities where
you usually hear them talk about things
yeah and then to not hear them talk about
stuff was kind of a it was like it did catch my eye like huh why aren't we and then you see that okay
well damn this could be the thing is is like sometimes the the popular opinion is in the heat of the
moment when you hear that phrase i want to be on like the right side of history you know what i mean
a lot of the time that is not the popular opinion in the moment what history is being made yeah you know
So I'm not saying what is right or wrong.
It's just when it comes to what Melissa Barrera was specifically talking about, if you really go into it,
she has been very vocal about like, hey, I got a lot of Jewish people in my life who are being.
And I see it.
It's something that really upsets me in my personal life is that I hate seeing people who are Jewish or Palestinian being ostracized, condemned,
just for being Jewish and Palestinian.
It's like they're just people.
They're not the
They're not the government
You're not your nation, yeah
And I mean
It's just pure racism at that point
Yeah
And somebody in the chat said
Like genocide is a simple thing
And it is in concept
But there's so much
political entanglement around it
And here in America
Where we are allied
With the nation of Israel
And we have a complex history
Of colonization
And things like that
Of our own to deal with
I do feel like
It's the surrounding stuff
that over-complicates.
People trying to say genocide is bad,
gets over-complicated by all the other stuff
that surrounds this particular situation.
So while it should be easy to kind of do
what Melissa Barrera is trying to do
and go, hey, all the needless death
on both sides of this should probably stop
and genocide is in fact bad.
Like, that shouldn't be controversial,
but yet here we are because of these complex entanglements.
And the fact that, I mean,
there are so much deep back-and-forth trauma
for both of these communities.
Yeah.
I don't know really how you untangle it until everybody just decides to stop, you know.
But maybe they should bring back Stu.
They could bring back Matthew Liller.
He never died.
He never died.
You could bring back Jamie Kennedy.
He never died.
You know, bring back everybody.
Cedric plays.
And we're trying to say it shouldn't be complicated, but, you know.
It shouldn't be, but here we are.
And people are getting fired for talking about what shouldn't.
The aspect that shouldn't be complicated.
But supposedly there is a ceasefire in the talks right now.
so let's see how that goes
anyway
sure be nice
anyway
yes
tiptoe for real
yeah no we are being a little more careful
because we don't want to act like we're the experts
on this on the specific subject and sometimes
it is but we are being honest about our feelings
you know we live in America so like
confidence and lonerism is the
is the sauce but I feel like
some issues you should be delicate
about until you are at least
confident that you're like full
informed, so yeah, of course be delicate. Why not?
Oh, I'm trying to get this going.
As long as you're not being inauthentic in the pursuit of, you know, being delicate or whatever.
John, I can't pull this up.
Oh, golly. Let's, let's fix it.
That's why you're here, buddy.
I want to see what, we got a few super chats.
I want to just read, I want to read them really quick.
Give them the time of day.
All right, we're just going to build some new.
Going to build some new.
We've just had some live stream stuff going wrong here.
All right.
So we are going to, hey, sorry, gang.
You're going to see the nuts and bolts for a minute here.
Let's just kill that when that.
What is that?
No, worry about it.
We're just fixing a couple of things really quick.
Yeah.
What happened to our, we're using OBS?
Everything was set up.
Yeah.
I want to get rid of it.
I don't know.
Okay.
Anyway, stop.
I'll stall while you do it, John.
Fix this.
All right.
Yeah, no, I agree with your comment there, Cedra, about it, about being against government
does not mean you're against people.
It's like, we're American.
We can be against parts of the, of, you know,
oftentimes you hear about the left and right argument with each other, you know.
And there's a reason why is because the left doesn't agree with the right,
the right doesn't agree with the left,
but it doesn't necessarily mean you're anti-American,
even though sometimes that disagreement might lead people to think that you're anti-American.
It does not equate to that.
Like, there are parts in the political spectrum of America that, again,
no expert in, that occasionally I'll get involved in a conversation,
I'll hear something, and I don't agree with it.
But I'm anti-American.
At the end of the day, I'm happy to be American.
Yeah, we're at least in a very fortunate position right now.
This guy Greg ever not wear a head, Ben?
Not these days.
I mean, yeah.
John, you're getting this sorted.
Don't worry, buddy.
It's, it's figure it out.
Dern it.
Yeah, it's.
Oh, my God, no.
We're so close.
dimensions. I'm not against
government, but I am against ghosts. That's why I support
the Ghostbusters. Sure, why not?
Why not? We'll go with that.
Okay, on the playback, we should remember to cut this part out.
Yeah, definitely. It worked, and now I'm going to do it a third
time. You got this, John. I believe in you.
All right.
You guys are going to see the thing again,
and we're going to take it away again. This is good. This is for all you
who want to have your own live stream.
Sausage is made, man.
I'm really not sure what happened with the stream, but John will fix it.
You know, instead of closing everything out and refreshing it.
Oh, did Napoleon flop?
Is it flopping?
People are saying, a couple people said in the chat that it flopped.
Is Ridley being a grouch?
Yeah, the guy seems to get more cantankerous as time goes on.
Dude, that's the Greg word now.
I love it.
It is my word.
It's my new favorite word.
It's your new fave.
It's good.
We should all have a fave piece of boath.
You don't got this.
I don't believe in you.
That's the motivation that I need right now.
What are you going for, John?
Is this all on screen right now?
Can everyone see this?
Nope.
No, they cannot see any of it,
and I'm going to change the dimensions shortly.
Yeah, guys, so ExpressVPN is hiding us right now.
We are so money, baby.
How did Napoleon, like, just came out?
Yes.
Napoleon just came out.
Oh, my God.
John, you did it.
Hey.
You did it.
In fact, we can crop this a little bit further.
Let's just, uh, let's just work with what we got right now, John.
Sure, why not?
But we're already here.
I mean, now we got that chat hidden.
There's, that's why I'm trying to crop this just a little bit more.
All right.
Okay.
Duplicit.
Do you.
Do whatever else you want to do goddamn John's words right there.
All righty.
We're going to have to change up the vibe of this stream as we, John did it.
Everyone give John a round of applause.
John does what he can.
Appreciate you, Johnny.
All right, let's read.
I want to read, I want to make sure we get to Chris's chat.
Let me just do some minor adjustments here.
We're doing this in a very relaxed cadence today, ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah.
That's how we're going to, we want it.
We're like, let's just relax today because we don't know how heated today can get.
Yeah, we're trying to get this a little light.
Yeah.
All righty.
I'm going to move this down.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like the look of that.
Uh-huh.
That is aesthetically.
There we go.
All right, John.
How are you feeling, John?
Are you good?
I'm so good.
I'm excited to make another one of these when we go to stream less.
All right.
It's going to be great.
Thank you, John.
Anytime.
All right.
So, Johnny, thank you for the super chat, the first one kicking it off.
For both, how many DVDs do you have?
Are you going to buy Oppenheimer?
Thoughts on Best Buy ending physical media while Nolan defends physical media.
I am 1,000% buying Oppenheimer.
Yep.
My wife recently was watching the Hunger Games movies on streaming.
And she was watching Catching Fire specifically.
And I told her, it doesn't have the IMAX ratio.
She didn't know what I was talking about because she didn't watch it in an IMAX.
And for a lot of people, what they don't know is that in the first part of Hunger Games catching fire, it is shot regularly.
And then after, if you haven't seen it, a death happens.
And then when she enters the Hunger Games, it transitions into the IMAX format.
and the entire Hunger Game sequence
is an IMAX format.
They shot it with IMAX cameras,
the way how, if you see a Nolan film,
like an Oppaheim or something,
how they shot it with IMAX cameras.
And it translates on Blu-ray,
but it does not translate,
but they don't do that for streaming conversion.
And I can't imagine that Max is going to do that,
oh, not Max, Peacock, right?
I can't imagine Peacock would do that.
I mean, they'd be smart to,
but I don't think they will do that for Oppenheimer.
I know Disney Plus does their like IMAX conversion thing and sometimes it looks a little off.
But I think the way to get it in the form that Nolan would want is it won't happen via streaming.
It'll happen via physical media.
So yeah, a thousand percent will be buying Oppenheimer on physical media.
Admittedly, I don't buy enough physical media.
I am a negative contributor to that.
John's definitely more of a contributor to physical media more than I am.
I mean, I used to buy more stuff that I just liked.
I have since paired down to, like, if I love this or this is an important film to me,
then I'm going to definitely buy a physical copy.
Oppenheimer would certainly be included in that.
And I do think that, like, it's weird.
I get how and why a best buy isn't stocking home videos or Blu-rays or whatever it is now,
or is going to stop.
But I don't know.
It does seem, as much as there's always the march of time in progress,
I do think losing physical media is a bit of an actual issue.
I know if some people are like,
you know who cares like streaming is so
convenient but like
there are films that were shot on film
that have been lost to time and
that will never be returned to us
and so yeah I mean I think
what Guillermo del Toro is saying is kind of true
like in a way even though it's just a little
Blu-ray copy or whatever you are like the
custodian of this and
there might be time when nothing on the
internet carries it any longer and you've got
it. Yeah very true I very much
support the physical media. Appreciate the
inquiry I holy shit just
That is an extremely generous super chat.
Thank you so much.
I wish we still had the ham horn.
Happy Thanksgiving to you, Jesse Ketrel.
Jesse is asking, I think they redirect and shift back to Sydney's story.
Bring back Stu and maybe he has a son could have his real face,
extremely messed up from the TV falling on them and love what you all do.
Keep it coming.
Honestly, I think that's what they're going to try to do to save face.
I feel like I think if they're going to force that in here,
I think it's only a matter of time before the first.
filmmakers leave the franchise themselves
and they get new directors. Yeah, and then
you also have to count on the stars that they
want to get back not sharing these
sentiments with Melissa Barrera.
Exactly, exactly. Because, you know,
speaking of Melissa Barrera,
that cast really does, is
something that Chris, on 3C did remind me of
is you do often would see
them, they are a cast that hangs out.
It's something I always wonder about casts.
You know, I haven't seen modern family,
but I was playing at the gym, and I saw
Ed O'Neill on there, and it did make me
think, does he ever keep in touch with, like, the other cast members of married with children?
You know?
He and Sophia Vergara hang out for sure.
That's, well, that's the, that's modern family, yeah.
Him and Katie Seagall would hang out for sure.
So I was curious about that.
And you do see that with the cast of Scream, this new crew.
And I don't even think you really saw that with the original cast, right?
Because this is one where this cast seems to keep carrying on.
And now I think this seems like they might do a rise of.
Skywalker situation or they're like people are upset with our franchise we need to
nostalgia bait them in there let's get Neff campbell back like let's get stew in let's
bring that theory to life let's do everything we can every weird fan theory and make
it real and it seems like the filmmakers behind there they they wanted they had a very
specific direction of what they were doing with their story with their characters they
were telling at the end of the day a character driven narrative that had the thrills and
everything like that.
And I can't imagine that
if the studio's like, no, you've got to start doing
this shit now, that they're
going to want to stay by. And then we'll know
the franchise is really
going down the shitter.
Yeah. I'm really
concerned about the franchise,
really. I really think it'll be a nostalgia
bait franchise at this point.
Well, yeah, and I mean, at least for the people paying attention,
it's going to be real weird to interact
with whatsoever because you know
that they're just going to be trying to angle
you to forget about
the real world. Yeah.
So, and hey, you know,
I love movies, we all love movies, but real
life is more important than movies, so...
That depends. My escapism
is often the thing that saves me, John.
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's just my take, but hey,
that's just me. You should always be in a
state of escape, you know, never acknowledge reality.
Yeah, yeah. Never contend with the harshness of, you know,
carrying two ideas in mind at once.
In the chat, yes, I am excited for Shelby.
Oaks did a whole video about it like when he first announced it and I am one of his
Kickstarter supporters but thank you Jesse that is a that is a very very generous
super chat thank you very much really stands out amongst the crowd even if I got a shout
out loud tonight is the only goofy movie yeah come on man power line love it
Dart car with a wow thank you thank you dark car
thank you Kevin Frazier with this with this LinkedIn profile
Dude, nah, that's a great.
Thanks for everything.
Oh, man, look at that.
You look, I want, I don't know, whatever you're selling, I'm buying it.
I love it.
I love the look of it, my friend.
Bring it.
Bring it to me.
Ian Blosh.
Hey, buddy, good to see you.
Hey, Greg, missed you last stream, but, hey, me and the fans really do appreciate what you do for us.
You bring joy to my days with each upload.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And really, sorry that your contributions just didn't come through last time.
feel real bad about, I mean, you know.
Leon's always here, and I appreciate you always being here.
And with it being Thanksgiving, I want to say thank you to everyone who has been given to the super chats.
But everyone who's just here right now chiming in in the chat, there's a lot of names that I'm recognizing here that are usually just here.
Again, if you can't contribute it, that's Taylor OK.
Like just seeing like even Richard Lloyd right now, who's, well, let me just make sure the chat's still going.
But yeah, there's so many people here who I love seeing that he's just on a random Wednesday that we're doing.
It's like so impromptu.
Oh, Wednesday, get it.
Wednesday, Adam.
And where are we at?
Okay, 3C films.
Let's see what he said.
All right.
I am pissed.
Oh, love this franchise,
and I just don't see how they can get fans excited again.
I don't even think Stu returning would save it for me.
Well, because now it's like, yeah,
it's going to be all shameless attempts at making you just, like,
overlook past what they did.
They're just going to try and give you as much candy
and gifts as possible until you're just like,
I don't care. And I mean,
you know, in a post-Ezra Miller flash
world, there's a solid chance
it might work for a lot of people, but I
would agree. You know, whatever they're going
to bring us now, I am going to be... Did that flash work
for people? The movie itself
didn't work for people, but
everybody still went and saw it
to get that opinion. And I mean,
granted... Everybody went and saw it.
That's fair. They did not.
But I feel.
feel like there are different reasons for everybody not going to see it than people caring that
Ezra Miller is in it.
I feel like a lot of people didn't care about the movie at all.
So that's probably why that happened.
Well, you see, like, that's the thing about, that's the thing, like what 3C is bringing
up right now, Chris, is bringing up about Stu returning and all that.
Unlike a lot of other horror movie franchises, I can't say it's applicable for all of them.
Okay, you can theoretically do a Halloween franchise without Laurie Strode
as long as you get Michael Myers back, right?
Technically, you are correct.
Technically, yes, and I think you can still make...
People love Part 3, but yes.
Well, I mean, I think four and five were still...
Four was really liked, and then there was not Laurie Strode in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You have your icon, you need your icon.
Nightmare and Elm Street franchise.
You mainly just need Freddie Kruger, the Friday the 13th franchise.
You mainly just need Jason.
scream is this interesting franchise because so much about it
is not just you need someone in a ghost face mask
because so much of it rides on who's the killer
who's behind the mask
and what's made the franchise great
is a lot of those movies
you get invested in the characters themselves
and that's why this is so upsetting
because we have gotten invested in the characters
and watching their trajectory
and it
I think that's one of things that really
distinct and it's also an ensemble piece
and I think that's one of things that distinguishes
scream from many other horror movie franchises
because you can't just have ghostface
be in there and stabbing people.
You can but then you just got a schlocky film.
Yeah and we're still currently on a timeline
where we are keeping everything in continuity
so you know yeah it's the growth
of the Sydney Prescott story into the extended
family into the carpenters and how they relate back to Billy Loom is also so like yeah i feel like at
this point you would need to do a full-ass reboot because like what do you need what are the nuts
and bolts if you jump out of the character continuity ghost ghost case could be an actual ghost
that's a funny comment i'm excited to get silly with it like sadly like yeah part of me is like okay so you
reboot ghost face what do you need you need the mask you need the knife and you need just meta horror movie
commentary. So like, it's not impossible. People really like to show, or at least it's got a cult
following. So it's like, my lowest concern is like them salvaging. Like they could find something
to do with it. And hey, they might even find a neat part of me is like as much as I would only
want to continue this continuity, especially again after as of Scream 6, really coming to enjoy
our core four. You know, I think the only way this works without them is if you just completely
reset everything. Right. Right. Right. Right. And then.
And it's going to be the same problem.
It's going to be like, but you're still the people who, with the Melissa Barreira, I think, no.
Nash, we talked about Jenna Ortega right at the top.
Yeah.
But welcome back.
Good to see you.
Let's see here.
Gary.
Thank you so much, Gary.
Get her.
I would lose respect if Nev took the role now.
That's the other problem.
I don't think it's a good look now.
She took the role.
Especially right now.
And, I mean, and, you know, then that also just says like some icky financial stuff about like, well, now that you lost your two main stars in
General Ortega is going to be much more expensive than ever before.
Hey, he can afford every year.
You know, it's kind of tacky.
TVH.
And, like, you know, I doubt Matthew Lillard needs it because he's got five nights now and other things.
And, I mean, you know, the Scream team does fine on the convention circuit as well.
I feel like the original Screamcast is, like, much more camaraderie because of conventions than, like, being on the actual movies.
Yeah, yeah.
And they can, you know, continue that wave for the end of time, you know.
It just did not end.
No, it's clearly supposed to continue.
It would be so strange.
And after the really satisfying, like, real-life arc of, like, oh, this performance has gotten night and day better from five to six.
Now I really want to see how this culminates with her character.
Like, this is the thing is they made me care about these characters.
They made me care about her.
They made me, it was a perfect blending of performance,
and they wrote for it,
and you could tell the filmmakers were writing real-life response.
It was so vital.
And now, yeah, and now it's just a bummer.
It's just like you cut the pulse entirely.
And unless they can find some real weird way to sort this all out, you know, I don't...
Hey, Omni.
I'm always going to be thinking about what we would have missed,
especially because it's like a pretty compelling idea
that maybe she'll become a ghost phase of some kind, you know?
All righty, so where are we at here?
That's the same.
Thank you, Ryan Platz, for your super chat, my friend.
Now they're saying Jenna couldn't do it because of scheduling conflicts.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, we talked about this earlier in chat, and I don't think, I feel like there's way more to it than that.
It just, I feel like they could have made it for it.
I don't think they.
I think they would have made it.
It's Jenna Ortega.
It's freaking.
She is so famous.
They would have made it.
They would have undoubtedly been by.
Your cap, yeah.
Well, we've got to find a way to make this work around her schedule.
And they undoubtedly would have.
And they already said her role was going to be a little smaller already.
Sure.
That they would have found the time to make it work.
Fitting her in for Scream is not the same as fitting her in.
I know it's complicated.
They shoot in different areas.
And when they shoot for Wednesday, Wednesday's an entire season of television that she has to prepare for.
Not to mention, not to forget, like, she probably has other things outside of Wednesday as well that she's booked to do.
but scream
they would they
yeah it's a really
it's a really I am just playing
it's just conjecture to this point like I'm
I'm just believing something that is not
confirmed it just it's the timing
for me for the very
following morning to be like
oh hey we worked this out before
the strike and stuff but today
we're going to announce that she's leaving
well Omni in the chat can you read that
there was a new update about why Jenna left
she asked her agent to end her
see that makes a lot more sense like because again she is documented as as sharing similar beliefs to Melissa Barrera so I would absolutely she seems exactly like the kind of person who would out of solidarity just walk because she doesn't need scream now she can do whatever she wants like she's on top of the world and she's got a show in Wednesday that she's got like creative sway over to and like I don't know her obviously we don't none of us most of us 99.9% of us don't know her person don't know her person
What you can gather of her personality type on interviews is she would be the kind of individual.
At least this is just the way her personality conveys it interviews to be like.
Yeah, I don't want to be here anymore.
Yeah, she doesn't seem like the type to countow or to play ball with this.
Flicking real.
Flicking real.
You guys, thank you for the super chat.
You guys see Noah Schnapp saying Zionism is sexy.
Wow, that's a subject.
Yeah, people, it is interesting how.
when did he say this because
it is an unfortunate
situation for that individual
but it seems like he said this a while ago
there's like a TikTok video
I saw like a few weeks ago I think
so it was several weeks ago and then now it's of course
right to the service because there was no punishment
or consequences for him having his political
point of view put out there
yeah people online have been upset about it
but there's been no official to my knowledge
no official addressing of it
it's just he's out there on the internet
you know in this video well the the interesting thing about to bring it back to what
Melissa Barrera's actually arguing for at least the way her sentiments seem to be most
explicitly expressed I feel like it's just given more voice to that yeah because now
her losing her job and just damaging her career in total like as much as there's this
online support around her still it's an industry thing like just
Online support does not equate to.
Oh, that means she's going to get booked up now because the online support does not equate to that.
Well, yeah, and I imagine a lot of the money people are probably sitting around going like, well, what don't we do?
Because then if we hire her, we're making a direct statement about our ideology now.
Exactly.
And it creates a whole other conversation.
And so I think, though, the message she was ultimately trying to convey that voice for that is now just gotten stronger.
so in a lot of ways
it's to her benefit
for what she's really fighting for
and otherwise is really bad
because it really damages her career
and it's not fair
I think in the longer run
she'll hopefully be all right
I mean I think like she really did level up
just as an actor in that Scream Six movie
so like I feel like
as you know how whatever
version of this simmering down
here in the States is I think she'll
ultimately be okay and I do appreciate
her philosophy of like I'd rather be remembered for the people I include than the ones I exclude.
You know, I think that's a good thing.
But yeah, it's like Jenna Ortega can afford to walk because she's got the world at her fingertips.
Is this true? Radio Silence, Thelis Melissa, in their next movie? Oh, damn.
Oh, that would make sense. I mean, sure. Yeah. That's great. And I mean, you know, Chris Landon is doing Scream 8, so it's not like they were, you know, involved with this decision. I don't think at all. So, yeah, and I'm happy that they seem to have her back. And they certainly seem to in just the writing.
of Scream 6.
And people have said,
I don't think Noishnapp
literally said
the word Zionism is sexy.
I think he's seen in a video
with a number of people
and they're all,
yeah, there are stickers on the video
and there are people like
showing each other content
kind of mocking
the non-Israel side of things, basically.
I mean, the problem is a lot of time.
And like, I've definitely in the past,
I've been guilty of it myself.
I'm not going to act like I've
never made a mistake myself of like uh you know you get you get a barrage of things you get an
immediate heat of an emotion of the moment of your surroundings whether it be your algorithm or the
people in your circle you post something because you're feeling the passion that fervor for right
there in that moment and then you realize oh shit i shouldn't have posted that i actually don't know
enough i didn't actually know the whole context i was waiting into you and i've i've definitely
been guilty of making that mistake in my life before same and sometimes i think
celebrities did like they really make that mistake a lot we're like I actually don't know
I got I got caught him in the moment and maybe I shouldn't have done that yeah it's not just
going to be a couple friends or maybe a few random people who exactly it's going to be the news
cycle and the producer like a whole bunch people who are going to check you now we're just like
campia that's what I like to hear yes our first topic today we're yelling at the camera yeah
uh richie brash this is a wait no i missed one i missed one joe if i wonder that's a great comment
oh man a teaser there joe keef that's such a funny comment
joe keef oh let me show you i miss this um shouts out to jesse over flicking real
joe keef loving the live stream we could just read it right here i don't know what we're doing
because it's just bigger and more appealing on the other screen but yes it's much more
Engaging to the crowd.
Loving, why don't you sit a little closer to me, John?
We are going to get a new table so we can...
We're going to get such a long table.
Especially on days like this, man.
They've got to make tables that just float.
That's the future invention I need.
Loving the live streams recently, gents.
Thank you, Joe O'Kee.
You, ye are an absolute joy when life is bright
and abound when things appear, dark and murky.
Keep the fief.
Love you, too.
That was a lot of accents.
We love you, buddy.
Yeah, and I'm glad, hey, if we can bring you a little light in the dark
or just hang out and make you feel, you know, tended to, I'm glad for that.
Superman Legacy Cast does look good.
We will get to it.
There will be.
There will be other topics we get to.
There will be lighter topics.
We know how these streams go.
We tend to spend forever on one topic, and then eventually we move on to a variety.
It's the way these streams always go.
Yeah.
We will get there.
Yeah, originally we were leading with three separate ones,
And then we were like, hey, there's one that we feel the most, most top, topical about right now.
Yeah.
But thank you.
I haven't seen that board pick up to Beyond the Spider-Verse.
But again, thank you for being here.
Like, it's one of those, you know, like this channel is our lives in many ways.
It's like all my life, you know.
And it's just so on the go.
And it's been like the most successful year for real reject.
ever and then like the way the channel has so I'm really thankful for everyone who's stuck around with us
and has watched the channel diversify itself with not just only covering call-book movies and like
branching out into like other genres again and then bringing on other hosts and everything like that
and specifically the kind of stuff that we primarily do while keeping in the reaction terrain but how
we formulate the videos now and appreciate it it's become our most successful year and it's really
cool to see and then funny enough it is one of those in the past week
within seven day
five days five days it became like
oh this is actually the lowest amount of views we've ever
got it on the channel all year
and because I'm constantly
studying the analytics and I get upset
I get obsessed I'm upset and I will get
upset when I'm just like it's slow
and and it's just
what's really interesting is like coming back here
and just even just seeing just like chat
like seeing Aisha show up in the chat
I'm watching Tori Sloth I don't believe in that comment
I don't know Kanye was right about which
Just James.
I come.
Kanye was right about not the Taylor Swift thing.
That's what he's talking about, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He did have one of the best music videos.
I'm still upset about that.
I'm still upset about that.
Don't worry.
He's in a tent in Saudi Arabia recording music.
He's going to change their lives.
I had a second where I had to go, wait a minute.
I don't recognize that name.
Let me see what he said.
Yeah, he does it with Jewish women, so he's not anti-Sinadad.
But Wana PV, thank you.
M.R.D.
so my point, and my point is that
but being seen a lot of you familiar
faces here has reminded me again of like, you know what, this, I've, I am really grateful for just
having the support. Even when I was like at the, I was like exercising day. I was looking at some
other numbers and I was going, you know what? Even though it's been the, the least performing
week we've had all year, it's still better than other years we've had. And we're still getting
like these like residual views on other videos that are older. And I'm like, that's really cool.
We didn't used to get that. So I'm really grateful for everyone.
here and even people just randomly showing up because
like our live streams don't get that many views
like our live streams are not like the most
like you can go to channels with much smaller
subscriber accounts and they'll get like
5,000 people watching all the time and so we
we'd like to just be a very
relaxed version
on these streams let's one Koi's
here when he's just like fuck on
what did you say I hate you
can I start beef with free
Gojira 1000%
Oh minus one so excited
I'm gonna show John a video on my
phone oh good and maybe i can figure out how to put it on the live stream i made this last night okay
we're going to get john's reaction to this video i made okay i think we can put it in i'm pretty sure
i don't know if we can hear oh no i know how we i just want you to watch it yourself i made two
versions john okay um we'll call this one the original version and then we're going to show you
Then I'm going to see if there's a way I can air drop it and then show you guys on the stream.
But first I want to see if it's worthy.
Oh, thanks for binging the old video.
What have we got?
Yeah, I mean, there's a whole like algorithm thing to it.
When you start like doing something that is a low performing thing, then it affects your next uploads.
And because the algorithm is like the fucking, it's so bizarre.
Then you're like, oh, crap, now I'm stuck with this show that has low performing views.
but we've got to finish it
and then it affects like your next uploads
and it's this whole process
of shit of like studying the algorithm
of stuff. But hold on a sec.
I will bring back those super chat custom audio
drops. I just want to show John
John. John can you hear? You can't hear it.
I can't hear it.
Let's do this.
Listen, listen.
Ah!
All right.
extended version of it is Watson.
Yes, yes.
I mean, that is part of Watson's personnel.
It's a perfect blending of like, if you know this cat.
If you go to, I mean, Olivia put it on her,
on her TikTok.
Oh, that's beautiful.
I basically took my cat and I blended it with the Godzilla sounds.
Yeah.
Anyway, Richie Brash's comments fucking hilarious guys.
Richie, who is a stand-of-comic has made a hilarious comment.
Now General Ortega's schedule is open to play Silver Surfer.
Well, this gives us a chance to talk about the Silver Surfer thing.
Oh, yes, goody.
Did you hear the rumors, John?
Yeah.
Silver Surfer's female.
M.C.U in full force.
Man, women can't surf.
What?
What are they going to do?
I mean my penis.
You say, I need to know that this guy's got a bulge that I can stare at
instead of other things to, you know, smooth out Ken's style and stare.
I'm not saying that I need Silver Surfer to be a man.
I'm saying it doesn't really bother me right now.
Like, I'm not here to say, oh, yeah, thousand percent.
Let's go woman on Silver Surfer.
I'm not going to say that.
her hair. I really just
I guess I don't care
I don't really care
if the Silver Surfer's
like of all characters
I don't know I don't let me just clarify
I don't know Silver Surfer
well enough
from comics material
of course I've read some comics where Silver
Surfer is there but I could see
Silver Surfer totally being
that's the thing is like to me it's kind of like
the ancient one I could see Silver Surfer
totally being female and
not upsetting me.
Granted, the association is very much
male physique.
Yeah, it's as you're used to seeing, yeah,
like literally the male physique on full display
with, like, just the genitals removed.
What Rye Elliott is saying in the chat,
fairness of a serpent doesn't really have gender rule.
Yeah, it doesn't seem, you're just a herald of Galactus, right?
So, like, it doesn't really seem like it would mat.
It's the irony of, I'm so aware of the male physique
tied to this character because the silver body paint
is the costume, you know, silver skin is the costume.
I don't really, I just don't really give her.
Yeah, I don't care. Like, it's fine. Just maybe don't give her hair.
Just like, you know, keep it, keep it that, like, super smoothed out thing, you know, and it's fine.
Who cares?
Joey.
That would be funny.
I think it would be really funny, though, yeah.
If the degenerating, it just hopped over there.
Get Melissa Barrera to be the silver server. Who cares?
Joey Radstone. Thank you, Joey.
We do got to get to streamlapse. I know we got a couple there.
oh jeanine trust me if anyone's over the term woke
it's not you my black female friend it's
i just feel so bad because like
before all this nonsense
like it's a good term i like i like the term
in its in its plato's perfect heaven form
it's just now it's the tone and now the world is taking
all the joy and all the meaning out of it and now i'm just
yeah it's not at all what it means what it actually
as a white man i lament
the downfall of the term
Yeah, let me tell the, like, Aisha Kay,
let me tell the black women in the chat.
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
Who don't get told.
Well, actually what it means now?
I'm just, you know.
How it's been taken away.
It was so nice to be included in the moment.
Let me tell you.
And then my people took it and screwed it up for everyone.
Sorry on behalf of all of us crackers.
Joey.
Joey rats, so it says.
do you guys it's not woke to be woke anymore
do you guys do you guys think they find a new word to get mad at
um do you guys think do you guys thinking they will continue
with scream seven and rewrite it or scrap it altogether if they can't have net back
thanks for being cool i thousand percent think they are going to i mean they have to
rewrite it i don't think they can just recast it who's going to no one is going to play them
both who's going to want that burden oh my god i'm going to play the sisters don't
take on that burden of what actor's going to want to do that like you got to think long term about your decisions you really have to think long term about it if you take on that role sure do you get the money for it absolutely or do you get a chance to be in the screen franchise absolutely but man the backlash you will get and the disdain you get from public discourse that's what you got you got to consider both of those it's like being a scab but like times 10 you know
It's like, oh, this was like a messed up human situation that now you're, you know, coming in and capitalizing.
Sure, sure, yeah.
I agree.
I agree, John.
I feel like they're going to, I don't think they're going to scrap it ever.
I think their best bet after this is just to reboot because money will dictate that, like, the scream nuts and bolts can go forever, you know.
Raccoon Shampoo, what up, buddy?
Good to see you again.
Did you guys watch Grand Turismo?
What were your thoughts?
Love that Neil Blum.
I haven't seen it.
We have not seen Grand Turismo.
No.
John refused to go.
That's right.
I don't support the auto industry.
Yeah.
They're polluting our earth.
If it was an electric car, Grand Turismo, maybe.
But even that's problematic.
No, I would like to see it.
Some people would argue.
Well, because you're still using electricity that is generated from somewhere that still
contributes to, anyway.
Two of the people.
There's no way to exist.
Two of the people closest in my...
The thing is, one thing I've been trying to encourage
is having conversations with people
you don't share the same point of views with
or agree with on political...
It's not how we progress a society, Greg.
That's how some people apparently feel.
My neighbors,
these two guys,
Mary couple, most macho men you'll ever meet.
They're always out front benching each other.
They have built the house they have with their bare hands.
Lizzo is Silver Surfer.
I'm with it.
They always happen, but at the same time,
they're two of the close people in my life.
I identify as liberal.
They, Republican.
We get along fantastically,
and we just know how to, like,
give each other shit about our different point of view
in ways that do not get heated, you know?
You brought the car.
Like, I want an electric car.
Yeah.
They will fight.
Toot the Dale why that is not a good idea.
Sure, they know. Of course they got all the evidence.
It's always my friends who are like, Republican leading.
Read this report from Halliburton.
How that's actually really damaging the environment.
I'm like, yeah, but I won't save my gas money.
Get a hydrogen car, Greg.
Then you'll just spit out water and be a danger of exploding.
I think it's good.
So here, I'm like, there's ways to have the conversations where you can disagree
where it doesn't have to get heated.
And where you can only say that reminding me about like every time
I can't bring that up.
They're always, like, fixing their fucking.
They have, like, four cars, and they've got, like, an RV that's, like, a really
fancy one.
They're fucking fixing it up all the time.
Yeah.
And they got the hot rod.
Yeah, they got, like, really nice-ass cars.
And I'm, I got a car that just gets me places, you know?
I don't really give a shit about cars.
I used to, and now I'm just, like, as long as it still works.
It just reminded me, like, oh, yeah, yeah, you know, is with the comment you made.
Anyway, hey, guys.
Sidra Zaidi
This is the most lackadaisical
They're gay and Republican
No
Some people have a hard time wrapping their head around it
But yeah, they are
I was going to say how many
How many asteris
Like our neighborhood is mainly
Like there's a mix I noticed in our neighborhood
It's mainly gay Republicans
It's mainly gay Republicans
It's really odd shoot of just this one strip
Yep
It's the only
Heteroliberal House of the neighborhood
For the odd ones out
over to the heterosexual couple in the neighbor.
Yeah.
So,
but they,
they're not like
the ones who will apprais
they, they are, like so much of our
friends in this neighbor, they're all, like, we
know how to have like a conversation. It's like so great to have
that diversity there.
What gets more diverse than gay Republicans?
What gets more diverse? I know.
That's the true mark of progress.
MC NoLite, is that you?
There's this notice that it's your 10th
super. We're going to get to it later, but, but,
If that's yours, thank you.
And congratulations on this momentous milestone.
John, we're not going to film the last couple episodes of Scott Pilgrim today.
We're just going to be on the stream all day.
I would love to be on an all day on the stream.
It does.
Sidra Zadie.
Oh, I heard about this.
I heard about this.
I heard about this a long time ago.
I saw this come up and was like, oh.
This was one of those things that Greg had some inside knowledge on prior to any reports ever
coming out that I just had to keep my mouth
shut about. And now
now it's out for the
public. I was surprised they did like a whole video
together. Did you hear that Ralph Machio
and Jackie Chan doing a karate can move together and looking
for the next karate kid? I did not know
they were going to do that path.
This sounds like a reality show.
Yeah. That's
nutty
to get the, because I heard
about the, I mean, yeah, we all heard a while
ago that there were the rumors, but I heard before
the rumors came out that was like one of the things like oh i know something but i can't say anything oh man
can't even speculate why can't i be one of those leak channels yeah yeah yeah but it would be
it was it's interesting to have to really have a piece of knowledge on my hands yeah not say
anything about it you did good you did good i couldn't even like hint at it this will prove you
trustworthy in the future.
It wasn't 100% confirmed
that they were going to do it, but yeah, now
they've made it clear.
But the fact that they're doing the next
Karate Kid and they're going to be casting, I guess
that's an interesting way to get hype
around it. I'm still not really
that interested in the film. I'm not going to lie.
Jennifer would take a next Karate Kid.
Let it make it happen. I'm not
that interested in this next Karate Kid
movie, regardless of this.
I think the interest that people have
is, you know, seeing Ralph Machio and
Jackie Chan together. I don't even feel like they're probably
going to be the main stars of the film. No, he's going
to train Ralph Machio, Jackie Chan.
I think what they're doing is they're
setting... Yeah. He's got it.
I think they're setting up people for
the Kung Fu Kit. A terrible
expectation here. That they
think it's going to be Jackie Chan
and Ralph Machio starring side by side together.
I don't know what the film's going to be.
I don't expect it to be that, though,
where it's going to be them side by side for most
of the film. I think they're going to be
like glorified, extended
cameos. I don't think they'll be
the actual stars of it, but they're throwing their
hand them to show support because there's already a backlash
around this film prior to
this happening, so I think this helps change the
optics around it. I think it's a great marketing
strategy. Yes. And then
looking for the next karate kid,
man, I don't know why they would
open themselves up to that. That audition
process is going to be
a nightmare
in the making. Yes. Willow
Smith can play the next karate kid.
Oh my God? Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, are you guys excited for the next Karate Kid movie?
It is an interesting toss.
I'm just not. I'm not. I don't know.
I haven't actually seen the Jackie Chan one, but it's weird.
It's like it's...
You haven't seen the Jackie Chan. I like, that's the weird part for me.
I really like the Jackie Chan when no one likes that Jackie Chan.
And I like that one. I think that's what a Jackie Chan's best American performances.
Sure.
An American performance
A performance in an American role
You know what I'm trying to say
American film, God damn it
But yeah, I don't
No one's through to the chat
No one's really excited for it
But
Cobra Kai has more magic than this prospect does
Because it's the diminishing returns
We still have Ralph Machio
People like Jackie Chan
But it's just
Like right now the prospect is just
the two of them, which is
like how did they, yeah, it's like how did they
coalesce? What would their
you know, what would their
relationship be? What would be the driving thrust
of their thing together? And like,
I don't know. Wasn't even karate in the
Jackie show. It's kung fu. And that's the tribute
to, you know, I think they considered
calling the original one like the Kung Fu Kid or
whatever, or they tried to rename that one, the
Kung Fu Kid or something. But yeah, I don't
know. Like, it seems like they're missing
beats or elements or something.
Foreigners. Oh, yeah, oh, I know. The foreigners probably.
It was best, best, um, yeah, yeah, I like that movie.
That is a good one.
Um, but I, I, I, well, you see, we see, we just know it would essentially be a remake and not really, and the Cobra
Kai people aren't involved in it.
And what Cobra Kai has shown us is how you can truly take the evolution of the karate kid
world and make it something that vehemently honors the original source material whilst taking it
in a direction that's unexpected.
innovative but still keeping what you love about it without getting it in terrain where you're like
fuck this show you know and and and you just know that the movie's probably going to be some like
remake bullshit that you don't really want to sit through and the prospect of them i want to know
what this means looking for the new karate kid because i don't know i don't know i i'm sure they
can come up with something that works but like for these two characters i don't really know why
they would be like, we just got to get out here
and find a new kid. I feel like
it would need for like Danny Laruso, as we
have seen, it would have to come from some kind of
really personal motivation of like, oh,
my family or something like that.
I feel like Cobra Kai is just so fleshed out
that I'm not sure what this would serve
a purpose of. I know this is the most
cliche answer you can give for
something like this.
When I first heard about the prospect
of them doing this, I was like, if you're going to do this,
I think the best way to do it is take a
Phil Lord Chris Miller approach.
where you just do something that's very meta and self-aware
because you've got to do something that distinguishes it
from just being some remake, some generic-ass remake.
Yeah.
And the answer is not just combining someone
who apparently across the country had the exact same story
just for Kung Fu.
Yeah, totally.
Because then what are you going to do?
Another one where it's some other bullshit.
What's going on, John?
Somebody just sent there first.
So I just wanted to acknowledge them really quick.
Go Nation.
first live stream
Super chat. Thank you so much. It's throwing
these miles down to you. Just interrupt me. We could be like the
fucking brothers who may talk to me.
All right. Oh, yeah.
We'll be a Danny and Michael Phillip.
Stop that.
Heather Gear.
Heather Gear!
Super sexy reject, Heather
gear. Thank you. I appreciate the people
saying I made a great point. One of the few
great points I made. You won.
I've had a couple years to think of
You didn't have a take on this.
It would be very disappointed.
Heather, dear, thank you for you awesome guys this holiday season.
Thank you.
You awesome.
We're thankful for you.
For you, Heather, for being in our life, our Patreon, and constantly in our comments.
Love you so much.
John.
Yes.
John.
Hey.
I see the trajectory of the stream.
It's a topic scream.
Topic scream.
Topic scream.
Topic scream.
Yeah, that makes sense.
We got to break it up.
John.
Coy is busy
ranting at somebody
on Twitter.
Yeah.
Coy is busy
going to
Spy Glass Entertainment
right now
and laying down
some harsh words.
Brian Vickpor.
Take it away, John.
Maybe.
Just hear me out
and thank you
for your contribution.
Maybe bring back
stew in a
Freddie Kruger
type disfigurement
in homage to
Craven's new nightmare.
But use Ghostface
Stu as the
children's scary story.
Five nights
at Ghostface.
I think
we should do this.
You know, the idea is going to have the same response for me.
It's like, they could do that, but on this timeline, it's going to be real conflicting,
and I don't think it's going to work.
I don't think it would make any sense for him to come back at this point.
No, and it wouldn't pack the fun punch because we just know it's like dumping sugar on a wound.
I think you get into Saw movie territory at that point.
Which is.
Where it's just like, oh my God, like, Stu would have to have been like a mastermind.
A, a mastermind, that's one direction, or someone who has been, like, kept trapped and tortured by some other...
He's been gestating.
By ghost's face is living in a hole somewhere.
Like Donnie Wahlberg.
Insaw.
Yeah, we're Donnie Wahlberg and Saw.
We're just like, fuck, this guy's still just strapped.
He's just two movies later.
He's on an ice break.
He's got a big beard down.
He's a poor guy.
Yeah.
Keep it this guy hostage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, we could do Rush Hour together.
I like that idea, Jack.
I watch Rush Hour now.
I saw this great video that was talking about the death of comedy movies.
That is an interesting topic that we don't have time.
But Rush Hour is like PG-13, but you watch it now, and you're like,
we should it get people canceled now?
It's a very offensive and stereotype movie.
A lot of stereotypes.
A lot of creep in, especially on.
on, you know, women and stuff.
It's definitely, it's, yeah, going back for certain movies
really is like an interesting exercise because, yeah,
rush hour, you're like, oh, this is definitely of its time.
I watched, I rewatched the Italian job a few months ago,
the Mark Wahlberg one, and that one is like,
this is a really fun heist movie,
but like, oh, my God, all the character interactions
have not aged flatteringly at all.
It's all creepy, and they're all talking down to Charlie's there.
Josh Runyon, thank you for the Super Chat, my friend.
Crazy that Petermont decided to end the franchise at 6, but hey, why not go out with a bang?
I know?
Bold move.
Yeah, man.
Subverting expectations.
Why don't we have a hit with a cliffhanger?
Yes, and just never answer it.
End that shit.
Be a legend for all time.
People still wonder what happened to Ghostface.
They could just do it virally, you know, just do it as like a viral creepy pasta from that one.
Dead shot.
Never miss.
This is a very stupid decision from.
spyglass they need to pull a Diddley and hire a Disney and hire them back even if it's to finish the trilogy they would have to do it with like an immense helping of like crow or something some kind of weird atonement of like hey we were a bit hasty sorry there's a way where you can do I mean Disney brought back James gone and they still made an amazing ass guardians film you know and first super chat first somebody else oh thank you so much at the end of the day it's about trying to
Look, John, I've been holding in the bathroom since I started.
Hold the whole bathroom.
All the fixtures are like, yeah, go now.
The water's going to explode at the tap.
The toilet's going to guise her into the ceiling.
No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go while there's still time.
I can't take a shit under these conditions.
It's okay.
I can hang out with the chat for a few minutes.
I mean, I figure what we can do.
I mean, this is not the, like, this is a refresher,
but at the same time, I know.
that the stream labs thing needs to be made.
Oh, I can build the stream labs in awkward silence while you're away.
I think John will know how to talk with the chat
whilst building a stream labs thing so that way we can read the stream lab.
And yeah, I think you got this, John.
Okay.
Thanks, man.
I appreciate this vote of confidence.
I don't know what to expect right now.
You're going to do great in there, though.
Everybody, I want you, everyone, leave your words of encouragement for,
Don't touch my ice pack.
I won't.
Don't worry.
It's been on your, it's been on you for this entire time.
Hey guys.
All right.
Now that Greg is gone.
Talk as much shit as you want as, yes, Greg's urethra.
My narrow urethra.
That's, yeah, that's what I think of when I see that.
Just to pull a who shot JR or a saint elsewhere.
The events after screen one were all a dream.
Ooh, that would, that would really pissing people off.
That would be interesting.
Yes, Greg can do it.
We believe in Greg.
Yes, dropping the Browns at the Super Bowl.
Haven't heard that in a minute.
I should get to building this.
And yes, screw calling Twitter.
Does anybody call Twitter X?
If you refer to Twitter as X,
comment below and tell me why you do so.
No, Greg is, you can never smell, Greg.
You don't understand.
It's some kind of alchemical thing he does.
were just like you can't perceive him unless he wants you have you ever seen hunter hunter it's like
that he can just like you know control his nen anthony alba uh is fine you know uh transformers rise of
the beast was a very fun movie liked it more than i was expecting to and yes gregg is secretly
going to taco bell he's gonna do do it i like these comments very much and yes he is fighting a war
it is like a transformers movie in that uh regard oh hey
There's another big old graphic for you guys as I build out this live stream into something even more advanced.
Yes, X does sound a bit adult, no doubt, you know, which I'm sure is what Elon intended, certainly.
I mean, you know, if there's a guy who appreciates, you know, some ludes, it's Elon.
I don't know how people feel about Elon, but.
you know we all uh we all yeah anyway gregg's coming back um he didn't drop the bomb i don't think
sadly do you realize it's been like a giant week of a lot of greg and john
hasn't been like that all year i know so many other people and yet it's our lowest viewed week
people don't like us anymore john people don't like us together anymore i don't know what's
happening here okay we're going to do a couple little crop of
Crop of tops.
Oh, no.
I hate when things move when I don't.
John who remains.
John is a little tall.
What are you?
5.1. 10 and a half?
5.11?
I am, yeah, I'm like just shy of 6 feet.
We got two stream laughs.
Streamlabs are great because they take less.
They, yeah, YouTube is less greed.
Guys, watch Omni Man.
Yeah, he's great.
Watch OmniMedia as well.
Yeah, OmniMedia.
You should have called yourself Omneman.
Omneman Media.
It would have opened the...
Why didn't you plan ahead, Omni Media?
Why don't you just see what the dimensions are for the former one?
We're just fixing the crop here.
See what the dimensions are for the former one, and we could just...
I can remember it.
Okay.
So that's what this is.
So, 1,300, 530...
Oh, my God.
1,300, 530, 50, and 500.
You got it, John.
I'll let you remember while I'm talking.
Yes.
I was like, maybe I won't remember that.
The link in the stream labs is at the top there.
The foreigner is a great film.
Keep talking.
I'm talking with the chat right now.
Kelsey Grammer just said he thinks he'll be playing Beast again.
I fucking hope so.
You think.
Can you imagine?
You don't know, guys.
You never know.
I'm going to have to change the thumbnail in the title because we barely,
we haven't even gotten to the fucking Superman shit.
It's okay.
We'll get there eventually.
Jesus Christ.
Hey, we're here with this.
the new display.
We got two right now.
We got those.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Hey, the gamer, MJ.
Thank you for chiming in.
They should just sell the rights to someone else.
Let it be done.
I mean, that's the only copacetic way, I think, right now.
The rumored plot came out and involves the core four.
Sidney, Mark, and the kids takes place in L.A.
Would loop back to the Maureen Prescott somehow.
But now the end of six is looking poetic.
True of that.
Dude, bring it back.
Oh, my God.
If we could just bring it back in seven to part three, you know?
I love that these maligned part threes always get their, you know, love eventually down the line, you know.
We could have had all this.
We could have had Parker Posey back in some weird, you know.
Patrick Dempsey back.
They should always bring Patrick Dempsey around.
He's sexiest man alive.
He's McDreaming.
How?
How?
Someone pitched him for Silver Surfer.
I don't understand.
Look, I understand.
Patrick Dempsey, he's a talent.
He's a beautiful-looking man.
I think he's very charming.
But.
There is a massive butt coming.
And then sure enough.
His well-toned butt?
When Patrick Dempsey
won sexiest man, and I saw that go out,
my immediate thought was,
please, for the love of God,
let Twitter be thinking what I'm thinking right now.
Which is what?
Pedro Pascal should have won.
Oh, sure.
Hey, first time.
Super chat, thank you so much.
So I go on social media
and it was like, yep,
yep, yep, that's it.
I was like, why not?
Pedro is the sexiest man alive of the moment.
Which other man?
Harry Styles, but I feel like we're already past that moment.
He had Last of Us, a Mandalorian.
His SNL episode was like a legacy episode.
Sure.
Every sketch he was perfect in that.
And then the interview circuit rounds, he was the talk of the year.
Yeah.
It was a phenomenon.
It was equivalent to when Bradley Cooper won over Ryan Gosling.
You're like, what?
It's such an obvious, sometimes it's so obvious, it's staring you right in the face.
Like, how did he, how did he not, I don't even, I don't even know what the sexiest man alive thing means.
A lot.
It's a big boost to your career.
That was the biggest bullshit.
to be out of anything that's happened
Melissa Barrera being fired
as one thing with Pedro 9
but Pedro Pescal not being sexiest man
alive but we all know it's true
if we all know like
what other answer really
who like what did he
do I love
this theory maybe it was offered him and he
didn't want it probably like
that's a great great point
Ki Kuan is the only other
or Kee Kuan also sexiest man
honestly yeah
wholesome sexy there were two
I put Brendan Fraser there for them.
Yes, also wholesome sexy.
I don't understand.
I was like, what did Patrick Dempsey even?
Is there something he did that I completely missed?
He is zaddy.
Pedro is a total zaddy.
Other than disenchanted.
Yeah, what's he been doing?
I could not tell you what he's done.
Hasn't he been sexiest man before?
I would have thought.
I don't know.
M.F. Doom.
Anyway, but thank you, Gamer, M.J.
for
uh...
Funny as the new sexy
but like
is Patrick Dempsey funny?
Um, Mr.
Juan Marlbar
thank you for the stream lab
donation here.
Uh,
what are your most
anticipated
non-comic movies
of 2024?
Damn,
I was going to use it
a opportunity
to talk about
Superman legacy.
Uh,
my is George Miller's
Furiosa and
Dune 2.
Much love.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Uh,
do we have in 2020.
Damn,
you really,
uh,
took the ice
pair of
I was going to say
those would be
George's
towards the top
yeah
it's really hard
to think
we'll scream
seven
definitely
looking for
screams
sure
movies
coming out in
2024
what do we got
what do we got
we won't spend
too much time
here
oh we got a new
kung fu panda
kongf panda
four
undoubtedly
I'm looking
forward to
I don't love
Joker as a
movie but I'm very
curious to see
that's a combo movie
john damn it
beetle juice too
I'm looking forward to you.
Curious about being able to.
From the conversation that Tim Burton has led us in on with that film,
it has sounded like he has been aware of what he has become
and he's going back to more of his roots.
Okay.
With that.
Okay.
He's talked pretty extensively about how Disney warped him.
Sure.
Yeah.
Oh, so he's reckoning with CGI Tim Burton?
No, a thousand percent.
He has talked pretty extensively about it.
I didn't know that.
That's interesting.
If Adam Sandler and the Safdi brothers are able to make that movie.
Oh, Falgai.
That movie looks great.
I knew I was forgetting something.
Fall guy.
A hundred percent is one of them.
Yeah.
Fall guy looks excellent.
I'm very excited.
I'm very curious to see what Alien Romulus turns out to be,
just because I like Fedi Alvarez a good amount, you know, wicked.
I'm excited to see if they do a good job.
he's the right pick for that uh i i can see how he would and wouldn't be and that makes me
like neil blom camp i'm like that's the guy and i'm sad we don't live in the timeline same time i think
fedi alvarez can at least height in like the icky like horror and the fact that the aliens are just
so harsh of a creature you know i think he would give us a really aggressive this like i think
the sequences of alien gore
would hit
but alien needs to
it's the surrounding elements
outside of the violence
you need the ensemble as well
I'm not exactly sure but he likes to have also
female leads and alien is one of those franchises
where I mean I think horror
in general is that one genre
where people are like we love female leads
but in the other genre people are like this is a work bullshit
yeah
right
I can see how it would go awry
and I'm curious I don't know if he wrote it or not
because like you know the dialogue in some of his movies
could be better
but you know sure at least in terms of attitude
I'm looking forward to it and with that new James 1 movie
do we have any more streamers
all right now let's let's
go back to the soups for right now
are the Transformers one with
hamburg and the animated one that does sound
like a cool, cool experience.
Gia.
I know someone who worked on it.
Oh, who is that?
Can't say.
Can't say. Can't say who's a test and past.
Can't say.
But I do not someone who worked on it and they're like,
oh, it's going to be a good one.
We should.
We should.
Oh, goodness.
Gracious me.
Let's do a big.
No, okay.
Before we go back to the Super, let's just talk about Super.
Let's get to that out of the fucking way.
I don't think there's anything in the chat about it.
Skylar Gizondo.
Whoa, John, John, we got to fix this.
Oh, sorry.
No, no, no. It's just going to look like crap on screen for a little bit.
Let's just leave it like that.
All right.
Let's just do it.
All right.
Superman Legacy.
Nicholas Holt.
Nicholas Holt.
What a lovely day.
I'm not going to lie, man.
It's not him who I'm most excited about.
It's Skylar Gizondo as Jimmy Olson.
It really is.
I'm excited for him too.
Because, because, God damn, that guy was excellent in Santa Clarita Diet.
Have you seen that show?
Oh, I've got to finish it, but I've seen some of it, yeah.
That was the, I think out of every Netflix show that has been canceled,
that is the one that still to this day makes me go,
damn it, guys.
True Barrymore especially needs a refuted.
And just any Timothy Aliphant is a gift.
And I didn't really know Timothy Aliphon, honestly.
Like, apparently he's been like this beautiful gem of a human being for centuries.
and i and i wasn't aware of this and and uh yeah like i i i think him as jimmy olson is perfect
he's got that like endearing sheepish quality that he's got just like the right corkiness about
it like just do exactly what you did in santa claire sure i want to see you do any range just be
exactly what i know you to be and i'm cool with that yeah well and i'm excited just i haven't seen
the righteous gemstones but i know he's on that which i which is giving
me all the more kind of motivation to check
it out. And he is actually
on one of my favorite shows, which you can
check out over at the patron. He's on Syke.
He's like, he's the young version of Sean.
They recast young
Sean at some point and it becomes Skylar Gizondo.
And I always really enjoyed seeing
him in that form. And so I associate
him with that boyishness from
that. So I'm like, Perf.
And now
the
the, okay,
let's talk about Nicholas Holt though.
Nicholas Holt
is
what has not been said about him
already that I'm like what can we really
I think the the versatility of
even if you haven't seen some of the movies
like I haven't seen like a lot of his movies
but if you just go to
if you just go to Rotta Tomatoes and you see the
feedback he gets from the versatility
of roles that he has done
even for the ones we haven't seen
you're just like yeah he can easily
I feel like it's a like it's a
he can easily do Lex Luthor
and it is one
there's something that feels
very classical
about the casting
that they're doing with Superman
you get kind of an unknown
like David
I always want to say
sweaty bottles
yeah
Corinne sweat
Corrin sweat
Corrin sweat
Dave yeah like
he's not bald enough
he is like some people know
his work but he's not exactly
famous yes
whereas Nicholas Holt is a
is a pretty famous guy
who really hasn't had the proper break for that huge role.
And, yeah, most of us know him is like, he played Beast.
He played he was in Mad Max Fury Road.
Warm bodies.
Warm bodies.
Some warm bodies loved us now.
People loved his work in the menu.
And those are already there, that level of range.
Like, there's an undeniable range just in those few roles alone.
And in a lot of ways, you kind of see how that could, in it of, it's, I mean, he's played
like Tolkien, you know, he's played
scientists before. Hank
McCoy's a scientist. You could already see
Alex Luther from an amalgamation
of all those few roles that
he's pretty much known for.
Yeah, and his growth is an actor
I haven't seen Renfield yet. I heard he's great in that. I'm excited
to see Renfield. Yeah, I mean, his growth is
an actor over time. I feel like he's got a good
combination of like he still feels
like a young, fresh-faced guy, but
he has been around for long enough and we've seen
his chops grow enough that
he has like something of like a
veteran-esque status now.
You know, he's well-engrained now,
and I think that suits Alex Luthor kind of nicely.
And having heard that, you know, he was maybe even in,
wasn't he one of the names thrown out for Clark, you know?
You audition for it, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah.
Someone just brought it up in the chat.
Yeah, and so I think that's fun.
It's like, okay, he came in for one thing,
but we see him for something else.
And, yeah, he's like, I associate him more with,
more sympathetic, more
protagonist than
not, but I think he can very easily
and very, like I'm excited to see him
slip into this particular villainous role
and expand on those chops
that much more because, you know, in the menu
he's not a very likable character.
You've already get that sense.
And yeah, I'm just, I'm excited
to see him really take center stage
because, you know, any superhero movie is just
as, they say, only as good as it's villain.
I mean, he can play, like, the elegance.
He can play the entitlement.
He can play the mad genius, you know.
I think he can command the screen.
I think there's so much he could, the way he would carry himself.
And he's one of those actors who can communicate a lot with the eyes.
And there's more of a depth of Lex than just he's a bad guy, you know?
Yeah.
And James Gunn has also been kind of outspoken about not being the biggest fan.
He hasn't said those exact words, but you can kind of get the inclination in that interview he did with Michael Rosenbaum,
who is still in a lot of people's eyes
the pinnacle for Lex Luthor.
And I think that
it's not going to be like Gene Hackman at all, you know,
nor is it going to be Jesse Eisenberg.
No.
No, people will riot.
Be right in between.
Yes, that's what we need.
Yeah, yeah. No, no, I mean,
it's a commentator for some reason.
You can see it on screen.
Lex needs to be an ass, but also needs to be likable
to an extent, yeah.
It's because the word asses.
And I feel like in the hands of James Gunn,
we can get the Lex who have
eventually gets the NECSuit.
Yeah, mech Lex.
Yeah.
Well, I'm excited to see what he brings out of the relationship,
the back and forth between Superman and him,
because like one of the most-
You can't play the duplicitousness?
Yes, he can't.
Well, that's one of my favorite things about the DC animated
journey that Coy and I took was it showed me so many fun sides
and approaches and ways in which Lex figures in that make him
more interesting than just like, ah, he's an arch villain.
Like, he can wind up on a lot of different sides of the chessboard.
And I think that in and of itself is a really fun prospect.
1,000%.
Yeah, 1,000%.
I think it is not the obvious pick that you would see, but it is a great pick.
Yeah.
And I trust, I think regardless of James Gunn, whatever you feel about what's happening with DC,
it is a craziness that's happening right now.
I do think that there's one thing we know about James Gunn is that,
He knows how to cast for the work that he writes.
He really knows how to do that very well.
Paul Kent, I want James Remar.
That's to name you.
It's your go-to name now.
Yep, James Remar always.
They should get Clancy Brown.
Clancy Brown would be lovely.
And that'd be kind of meta-casting since he's played Lex before.
Yes.
Oh, I love it.
Oh, my God, do it.
Please.
And he's always playing a fucking villain.
It'd be nice to be.
Yes, that'd be a wholesome character.
Nice to see him play.
Can't all be Mr. Crabs.
Yeah.
You could also see kind of that mentor.
I mean, he's pretty old, but Hawkins was to die.
Yeah.
In a tornado accident and have a heart attack.
Hey, I mean, there's some versions of the story where he doesn't die.
Anyway, let's go back to the super.
Some people have been saying we have to read the supers.
We got to get super.
It's rare.
The main chat is saying, you got to read the super.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, God, what's going on?
They're like, is all they read the super's?
I saw one confrontation at least.
Yeah, okay.
So we got this one.
move on to
get Josh
Run, yeah, okay.
Wait, now,
did we read it?
I don't know if we did.
Yeah, yeah, we did.
Yeah, go out with the bang, okay.
Dead shots, decisions by Spike.
We did not read that.
All right, Dakota Jones,
one virus effects.
What's up, my dude?
Good to hear from you once again.
Thank you for being here.
Just want to say happy holidays
to Mabroskis.
What are the thoughts
on Javier Bardem as Galactus?
I was closed on calling.
Galentzi Bram would be a great.
Clancy Brown.
And he's got the voice.
He's got the voice for everything.
He's the new, you know, Brian Cranston was like the name everybody did for everything before.
Now I want Clancy B for all things.
Clancy Brown.
Let me tell you what Clancy Brown.
Let me tell you about Clancy Brown.
Javier Bardem I always suspect is a bad guy.
Even in roles where he's not directly playing a bad guy.
I constantly suspect he's a bad guy.
No country really kind of defined that note for him.
It's kind of like, one of my favorite castings I've ever seen done in the history of casting
is watching Tarantino cast Christoph Waltz as one of the greatest villains ever, Hans Landa,
and A Glorious Bastards.
He wins an Oscar.
And then what does he immediately do?
He puts him in his next film as a protagonist, you know, and Django Unchained.
Wins an Oscar for that.
And I was like, oh, that's so good.
But then for some reason, you mainly just fucking see, I just said his name.
Christopher.
You always see Christoph Waltz playing a bad guy.
And it's like, I'm like, okay, I'm sick of it.
You kind of just expect him to do that.
You just kind of expect him to do the thing that Tarantino had him do, but slightly lesser.
Right, yeah, that is the vibe, right?
But Clancy Brown, he can play good.
He's usually playing bad, but he can play good.
Buckaroo Banzai.
There was a revival season of Dexter where they said he was playing the antagonist.
Now, you're not actually, they revealed that prior to the point in the show where they reveal he is the antagonist.
But they already announced that he is.
So I don't feel like I'm spoiling anything.
if you're, like, late to catching up on this.
But it got to the point where I'm watching the show and I'm going,
oh, maybe he's not a bad guy.
Because he was so good at selling me on that he is a good person.
Sure, sure.
That I was like, oh, maybe the casting reports were wrong.
And then eventually the show was like, like, it's a couple episodes.
Oh, okay, yes.
But my point to that is Clancy Brown is one of those acts.
who can play that so well i'm not saying galifus needs to have that yeah uh but i don't know
there's just something that feels like harvey bardem as doom is another obvious one that i'm like that's
too obvious to me like there's something that's like just the right fit to me about nicholas holt
is luther yeah it's the right amount of like you can see it but it's not quite likely yeah yeah yeah
yeah i would agree um but i mean sure hover but here's the fucking thing though
Harvey Bardem is a fantastic actor.
So, yes, like, is he a great pick?
I'm sure by the time, if he does the role,
and I'm sure when he comes out and he's see him,
I'm sure we're going to be like, he's great.
You know, like, I highly doubt we're going to be like,
I'm just cast.
I highly suspect that if he does take the role,
we're going to, he's going to do an excellent job.
Yeah.
It's just the immediate announcement of it is like,
I'm like a little bit more of a,
That's why I think Pedro is an exciting casting choice to me.
Yeah, because it's not quite what you would expect or imagine,
and it requires a thread that we don't see as much from the roles
that he's been largely associated with.
So, yeah, it's like a little chance to grow and a little bit unlikely,
but you can also kind of see where this would work, too.
And, yeah, Deadshot, to your point, yeah, Javier, John Carlo is an exact thing.
I mean, yeah, it's happened with so many people.
It's like John Carlo or...
Oh, that's right.
He was in Little Mermaid.
I forgot about that.
That's right.
Was he King Triton?
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, I like Hobby Arbredem more for Galactus than Doom,
but that's just a personal kind of flippant thing.
I just, I don't know.
Yeah, it makes more sense for him to be this big giant thing to me.
And I feel like we could get a little different threat out of him for that than something else,
but then Doom per example.
but anyway
Shaquita Washington
I hope I'm saying your name properly
I have followed y'all for about three years now
I love what you do I'm fan-girling right now
great job getting healthier down through the years
Gregory well done
and for your information
thank you Shakwita
Washington
oh also congrats on your first
super chit rando we will get to you
but yes FYI I want John to be
BFF. Well, dude, let's make this happen.
What the hell?
What a rude thing to say.
She's nervous.
She's falling for three years.
She's nervous to aim too high.
And the reason she wants to be my BFF is that I can do without you.
I can't introduce you to her.
I got to say.
That is the rudest super chat we have ever gotten.
You know what?
I agree.
You know, this is really driving a wedge between us.
from all the ladies the lady followers of the channel i would love to be your bfm i'm excited to chat
uh i do think ron perlman is also a good pick absolutely thank you shakita we love you thank you
thank you so much for following us for so long my dear akash harroposwad
hey fellows what are your thoughts on some big budget flops this year oh that gives us a
chance to talk about what was originally in the title you think consumers are exhausted with big
budget blockbusters personally love mission impossible dead reckoning but
sad to see it underperform you know what's funny about mission impossible dead
reckoning is now I'm seeing more videos come out that echo this shit that I
said when I first came out yeah sometimes it takes the time now people are saying
it and I this is coming from someone who's a massive fan of that franchise in every
one of those films multiple times even even dead reckoning I was like I got to watch
again, just to see if I still feel the same.
I don't think it's, I feel like
I'd recommend it's a step down in the franchise as a film.
I do. I really do think that. I think it's a good, big
budget film, but I still think it's a step down.
And I actually think, here's my really
unpopular opinion.
I was already unpopular at a time. Now it's
getting more accepted, I noticed.
I think even if it was not,
it would not have tanked as bad
obviously if it was not released a week before
the Barbenheimer experience.
Yes.
I still think it would have underperformed.
I don't think the movie itself
had much of an effect
that would have warranted the amount of money
that it needed to make.
I just don't think that.
I don't believe it.
I really don't.
And trust me on this.
Trust me.
There's no way of knowing.
There's really no way of knowing.
But I don't think
Like the film is too long
The action scenes are not as memorable
Or as impactful as the prior installments
They're just not
They're good
They're great
They are great
They still feel lesser than the other one
It's I gotta say
They're less
I con truly iconic moments
I guess like
The Dead Reckoning mostly gets tagged
As the AI one rather than like
the Birch Khalifa one or the plane one or the halo jump one you know it's yeah it's it's the one where
you the bike stunt that you essentially saw in the trailer yeah it's not that different than what's in
the trailer yeah yeah and and and um and I do think that out of all of them that was the film where
because of its length where the the the amount of exposition that's in there and the the
writing where it does feel a little bit more perfunctory to kind of hire you to get to the
action scenes is the most felt in that film.
And so I do think that regardless, it would not have had the repeat experience.
To me, I think Fallout is a near perfect action film.
And at the end of the day, I think most would still say that it's still a step down from
Fallout.
Even if you really liked it, I still think it's still a step down.
Because to the point of the chat right now, Fallout and Rogue Nation, because they had three,
which a lot of people, like, that's still my favorite one,
and I know, I understand that's most people that's not their favorite.
And then Ghost Protocol, like, fucking set the bar.
It's like, whoa, Tom Cruise, endangering in his life for us.
Love you again.
What did he say about Scientology?
I don't remember.
And Rogue Nation was like, whoa, holy shit, what's this guy doing?
There's no way you can top this.
Oh, my God, he didn't fallout, you know?
And in Fallout was like this perfect blend, I think, of Ghost Protocol.
and Rogue Nation.
Because Rogue Nation
kind of stripped away
some of that whimsy.
Yeah.
But they amp the action.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean,
Fallout has what feels
like such world-rending
culminative stakes
that part of me wonders,
I don't know.
Like, there's something about that
that feels very kind of
like a punctuation
and it almost feels like
the end of something.
And so now it does feel
maybe a little bit like
we are kind of,
in a new territory where they got
to figure out what the new juju is
because there's AI and that's topical
but that's not exactly like the new
enchanting flavor
of these things and I think that yeah maybe there
is a quality of like
maybe it is just like the convolution I don't know
like all these movies are very convoluted
Mission Impossible movies certainly they thrive
on that but but yeah there's something
about Dead Reckoning as much as I enjoyed it
that yeah doesn't
quite feel
for as many like really
well-orchestrated elements and
feathers in its cap as the movie has
there is something that maybe
feels like it's not quite
fresh or or
at least it's not making me forget about everything
the McGuffin is so not
interesting
like yeah
like I like the idea
and I like some of the things they do
with it the key
the key
yeah I'm torn on that
the key opens the key
because part of me is like yeah sure
But even the first one is just like,
we just got to get this list.
We've got to get this list, this freaking knock list,
the freaking knock list.
Like, you know, they're talking about the first one?
Yeah, I'm just, I'm pulling an example of like these mean,
like these mcuffins that, you know,
mean less than just what's happening on screen.
I know, but the franchise got better.
I know, I know, I know.
But they all have, or the chimera virus or,
I mean, you have part three with like these personal stakes,
so it doesn't really matter as much like what the mcuffin is.
And I think maybe there's that.
It's like you have all these movies that.
have other more sort of, I don't know,
galvanizing physical presences.
And it's like you have the addition of Haley Atwell,
which helps,
but you have the fridging of that one character,
I won't spoil if you haven't seen it,
that makes you mad.
And then Issaim Morales,
good performance,
but not like the,
he's not written in a way to be like the captivating
new actorly presence like you had with.
I think it's a little bit miscast.
Maybe.
And a little bit underwritten, too.
Like, I think, like, a Henry Cavill,
like that character didn't amount to,
to what we expected, certainly.
I think some people wanted more out of that,
but he still left his mark on that movie,
or a Philip Seamer Hoffman leaves a mark on, you know, whatever movie.
Or even with four and five,
you have the building out and solidifying of the ensemble
that still feels new and fresh,
whereas in Dead Reckoning, you have the ensemble is set,
and that's fine, and you have new blood in Haley Atwell,
but there's not really as much else that feels like it's,
I don't know, the new distinct thing about this one other than AI.
You know?
But it doesn't really do anything that new with AI.
No, it doesn't.
I did feel like it's...
And nor does it feel like...
I don't know.
It's a relatable.
It's a relatable fear.
Didn't mean for this.
But we should talk about the Marvels.
Yes.
Let's talk about the Marvels while we're on this topic.
Yes.
This...
What I want to...
Okay.
I don't want to crap on the Marvels.
I feel like the big headline is about, like, how it's been this.
The biggest comic book movie drop of all times.
time outdoing morbius 79% baby it's really it is terrible and i think right now disney
figgy they are all very much working their asses off to reevaluate the situation in their hands
and i feel like they're kind of doing a purging of some other stuff sure you know sometimes
we got to do it when we're like stuck with the show that we're gonna fuck we got to just drop it
it out of the way even though it's affecting our views in the algorithm here drop it all in one day
we just got to get it out drop it all every day for christmas week i feel
that's kind of what they're fucking doing right now.
Yeah.
I think that's why they're just like, okay,
even though Marvel's flopped,
dude, fucking, okay,
promote what if, drop Echo,
just drop it.
Drop it all.
And then we'll have Deadpool 3
and then we'll take a break.
Yeah.
Because I think just having to just focus on Deadpool 3
is smart
because I feel like that movie
will be a billion dollar hit
and I think that'll help
change the conversation around Marvel
and if they don't go
like,
If they don't get, like, the rush, you know,
where they've got a taste of it again,
and they're like, oh, let's start releasing everything again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, ramp back up, you know.
If they, wait, I think they have to rebuild anticipation and hype.
So I don't feel like, we will get to the super,
we're just really focused on this subject right now.
I think with the Marvel's flopping,
there are some good things about it.
A, I think it's going to cause the Marvel Studios to reevaluate,
itself. I don't like
the conversation that it forms around
the actors, and I don't like
the conversation that it forms around Nia da Costa.
There's a lot of bullshit, yeah.
And that was one of the main things
even in my review where I was
very upset about the experience
I had with the film. I was like, I want this
in no way to be reflective of
the performances here, nor Nia da Costa, because clearly
it is not, whatever negative
feelings I have is actually not about them.
Yeah.
Like, Nia Costa, like, what was the thing going on about the, about not getting invited or some bullshit?
What was that shit?
Do you guys what were talking about in the chat?
There's a headline that went up about Nia da Costa Bales on the cast and crew screening for the marvels.
And the very same article includes information that basically says, like, she found out that the screening existed when she invited some people to her birthday party.
And they said they couldn't go because they had the screening.
So, you know, which prompted a bunch of chatter on the internet.
And there have been instances of people basically saying there's a concerted media effort to punch down on the Marvels and to throw, you know, Nia D'Costa in particular, under the bus for this.
Sure.
And there are certain instances of that where it'll come down to like one word in a headline and then it's like, well, you know, people were comparing this in the Hunger Games and like how the coverage is different, but the Hunger Games has like half the budget to make back.
So like there are things like that where I'm like, I don't see it as much.
this thing with Nia Dacosta bailing on the screening,
I do kind of see it because it's there in the article
where they lay out the truth.
So I'm like, okay, this is at very least,
shameless clickbait, and at very most,
you know, these are things that not everybody is going
to take the time to read and dig further on.
So a lot of people are just going to think,
oh yeah, Nia Dacosta couldn't be bothered to finish the movie
even though she had, you know, obligations
that cannot be pushed back forever and ever and ever by even Marvel.
Yeah, I feel real.
bad for her because it does
seem like there are plenty
of aspects of just the movie in and of itself
that maybe aren't poised to
perform as well as they hoped
now. But also, I think
there is some hinky stuff going on with
the public perception, especially
of Nia da Costa, and it really sucks
because I don't think it's fair at all. And that was a thousand
percent what my worry was when we
watched this movie. It was 100%
what my worry was, was that this
movie should not be a reflection of her direction.
Because I know some people are trying to
to, at the end of it, it does sound like a spin.
Like, yes, is it technically a fact that this is the biggest performing movie for a movie that is held by a black female director?
Yeah, it is.
At the same time, that wasn't the driving force behind it or nor was it part of its, like, promotional marketing ramp up to entice audiences to go see this movie.
It's an MCU is the thing that people are there to go see.
Marvels, I think, that you would see.
Even Nia Dacosta herself was like,
I'm making a Kevin Feige movie.
I'm not really making it Nia Kostom.
She said something along those lines, right?
So yes, there is an accomplishment that she did get a helm that.
However, part of the negative to that
is making it seem like this really was her film
when it's not really her, like, it's, I can't.
I don't feel like this is truly,
even if you liked it a lot.
This is not the purest vision.
of Aenea to cost a film.
And you're never going to get that with a big studio movie.
Like it's rarely the closest you'll get that with is like James Gunn doing a movie.
It's really not the case here.
Well, and he's in a very different position because as much as I think Marvel pulls interesting
and indie film directors with some level of like genuine like, yeah, we see something in your vision
and we want to bring that here.
I still think it's a classic Hollywood move.
We'll get somebody who we can bring in here.
who's done something of some prestige,
but who doesn't have enough sway to push back on us
when we need to change shit around.
And we're in a stage now where Marvel is so modular
that they, especially with the movies I imagine,
always are doing that, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
And I think there's more attention drawn to it.
Here's where things get.
Dicey.
I think there's more attention drawn to it
because she is a woman.
Of course.
100%.
Oh, if this one.
was just a mediocre average, like
it's kind of fun, dude movie.
Yeah, I don't think.
Who directed Morbius?
Can you guys?
Who directed Morbius, guys?
Couldn't tell you. Come on.
Can you tell me off the top of your head?
Who directed Morbius?
Yeah.
Which was a massive, massive, massive flop.
Jared Letto gets the brunt of that movie.
Who directed that film, guys?
Exactly.
Yeah, and I mean, you know,
it's so weird to watch Nia da Costa's trajectory
because Candyman, highest number one, you know,
opening for a black female director but jordan peel got all the credit for i mean she got some but
yeah jordan peels involved so he's going to get some of the credit for that and then this comes out
and it's like you know you have the simultaneous like highest ever and also lowest and uh and yeah it is
daniel espinoza you're right danielza but i'm saying most people won't be able to pull that fucking
you know that off your head that wasn't really the conversation around people weren't like
fucking Daniel Lusmanosa, man.
He's going to take this.
Oh, man.
He didn't do the fourth reshoes.
He must not care about anything.
He must just be an entitled asshole.
Yeah.
No, it's not good.
It's a real bummer.
Chloe Zhao did not get as much heat because it wasn't as big of a flop.
Like, this is a record-breaking flop.
And Marvel really backed her up.
And it's really on the down, like, Marvel's already been on the down,
trajectory
in terms
with outlets
already been like
all right
like big outlets
taking advantage
of Marvel's
downward trajectory
and and using
it to boost
themselves
so now it's just
like all right
what more can we
put a stamp
on this
like I think
Amman Valani
the way her
conversation
has been around
it has been
she like God
that woman
she knows what to
say
she just continues
to prove
why she's like
that Bob I can
worry about that
she's so perfect
she's continues
to
just, not just as Kamala
the combatant, that was a Manvallani.
She's just like, damn, you are
icing this shit in Monvalon.
How to handle the conversation
surrounding
how to talk
about this shit, right?
But no, I mean, I don't think Nanda Costa
is the one to, like,
it's interesting.
Like, when you look at Ryan Johnson, I hope
they, I hope audiences give her the chance
the way they've given Ryan Johnson the chance.
You throw Ryan Johnson in the conversation with Star Wars.
It says, oh, fuck the last Jedi.
But he still managed to have a great career after Last Jedi.
This Knives Out franchise is a stellar hit.
It's phenomenal hit.
And I'm hoping Nied Costa can generate the same thing.
Don't put her back in Marvel.
But I think that what she can do with, I thought Candyman was a really solid,
was a really solid soft reboot.
I thought it was very, very solid.
And I think she deserves a chance to prove that she can do something different.
And it's not because, but I think there is more attention to,
on because of the whole thing with like the women involved and it was a huge flop and
Marvel's already this was just like the next step it was like this was going to flop yeah and they
didn't they didn't help I feel like a big difference between this and the Eternals is that they
didn't back this the same way they didn't help this out the same way you didn't have Kevin
Feigy out here being like this is an Oscar winner or some like comment you know and and
Eternals, while there was
a lot of female
presence, you still
had, you know, John's
the Game of Thrones guys, and
she still had
Kingo, you still had
Barry Cogan, you still had a lot of people.
You still had a lot of male presence as well. That was more
of like an ensemble thing and
you know, and they were still
trying something very different.
Whereas
Eternals wasn't
a lot of people's negative association with the marvels
for those who feel negatively towards the marvels.
I'm not speaking to those who felt positively towards it.
I'm not saying if you feel positively towards it,
you should feel different.
I'm saying to echo this,
to summarize the sentiments of a lot of people
who felt negatively towards the marvels
is that it was emblematic of all the things MCU generally
has been doing wrong.
And it's like it's all not the stuff
people were freaking out about in the first movie.
which like they shouldn't have been freaking out about but it's it's largely not that stuff
whereas eternals was very much different like while i i didn't like eternals um it was not i wouldn't
say the problems that i had with that are the same problems i had with the marvels no yeah
the yeah it's like the the eternal still gets to be what it wants to be and breathe the way it
wants to breathe.
And this, it's like, again, I was initially excited for like, oh, hour and 45 minutes.
That's very reasonable.
And for like the tone they seem to be setting, also very reasonable.
Then you watch the movie.
And I like the movie more than pretty much any of the rejects on record here.
Like, I had a pretty good time.
But it is one of those things where I watched now.
It was like, this is fun.
But the fun is hampered by the fact that I can tell this.
It just feels to me like this wants to be a more breathable movie and a more tonally finessed
movies so that all the fun and games they want to try make a bit more sense and uh and those are
all things that just really smack of like retooling and stuff that yeah it just felt so out of
the creatives control at that point and uh yeah yeah i mean yeah i don't think uh yeah bottom
line somebody brought a pandemic like somebody brought a pandemic and it's like oh you know is it
always is it even a flop because we live in a post pandemic world and you know it's like
everything's going to be 20% or so
less. It's a flop. But it's still a fly
because now, in light of that,
we're going to have to retool how much
we spend and what we consider
for blockbusters. Because we're also at a point
now, we're like, these movies are more
expensive than ever. Definitely.
Yeah. I know we spent a long time
there. Thank you for that. We just really wanted
to take advantage of
your question to
really zero in on
a topic there. Michelle,
Thank you, Michelle.
Love your LinkedIn profile.
Thank you for the plethora of fun live streams
of great content lately.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you. For those who have been watching.
Thank you.
One last thought.
Jesus, John.
It's like dealing with Koi.
I think it's unfortunate for Nia Dacostas
compared to the other director you mentioned
just because she...
Daniel Espinoza.
No, somebody else.
Chloe Zhao.
With more stuff on that.
their plate. Ryan Johnson.
Ryan Johnson. I think Nia Dacosta's
on a way bigger back foot right
now because now she has to like
deal with all this junk whereas Ryan Johnson
had like a pretty respectable filmog
before he got Star Wars. Whereas Nia
Dacosta, this is her third movie and now
she's going to have to contend with all this nonsense
to get back to a point where
Ryan Johnson can get a new project
Greenlit like any time. People were
excited about Ryan Johnson directing
versus Nia Dacosta. We're like, let's see
what she can do. Yeah, you're leveling.
You did a pretty good candy mail to see what you could do.
Yeah, the top of the top of the top, you know.
AM, thank you so much for your super chat.
Thoughts on Lex, Jimmy, and Ms. Teskmacher casting.
Who's playing Miss Teskmacher?
Oh, let's find out.
Let's do this thing.
James Gunn has announced so many castings.
It's hard to keep track sometimes.
Let's go.
Who's playing here?
Does someone know in the chat?
Does somebody know in the chat?
John Hamm, Dr. Doom?
Definitely.
It's going to be good.
Yeah.
Ooh, they should get
Brooke Test Malker from
that would make the most sense.
Hey, they need to take some notes
for wrestling, all right?
They need to take some notes across the board
from wrestling.
Guys, who's playing her in the fucking
in the Superbent movie?
I have not seen some of the snakes.
I mean, we have talked about Lex and Jimmy.
We think they're perfect.
And for their own variety of reasons,
I'm weirdly more excited for Jimmy
than I am for Lex.
Sarah Sempeo.
Who's that?
I don't know.
Don't know.
Or is it Sempio maybe?
I don't really know her
from like the portrayals
in the live action movies.
I don't really know the character,
honestly.
Oh my God, she's hideous.
She, I cannot stand to look at this woman.
I don't hope she has an extended role on screen.
Yes, never.
I hope she never works again.
Oh, she has 8.7 million followers.
Oh, goodness.
It must be for how ugly she is.
It must be because lots of people in the world
speak Portuguese.
What is Sarah Sampo famous for being a
Victoria's Secret Angel?
Good.
More like the
She did some stuff next to Kate Blanchett for Armani
Fragrance.
Sarah's something new.
So she caught some of that acting.
I don't know. I mean, people roll their eyes
at model actors, but I'm sure she's got chops.
Hey, hey, you know who's a model actor?
Charlize their own.
Hey, there you go. I'm saying.
Well, and too. I can name more.
I think it's funny.
Good.
It's going great.
Yeah, baby.
Okay, babe.
Yes, I think models turn to actors get a bad rap
because how many models...
Oh, she was an original creation for the Donner Super Maffo.
I didn't know that.
Oh, cool.
That makes sense.
Oh, that's a fun homage then, too.
So sure.
I mean, people slag model actors,
but so many actors are probably also modeling.
So, Palm Clemente F for Mercy Graves.
Ooh, lovely.
Gary.
Gary.
Back in the chat.
Thank you.
Or it's stage so we don't expect her ghost face.
Oh, what a weird.
Can you imagine?
What a weirdo.
If that was the ultimate reveal.
What if, what if Seven, what if Scream 7 is just the most meta film where it's dealing with the firing of Melissa
of Herrera, and they don't
know whether, and they're like,
how to we make it? They're trying to make another stab movie. They just
fire the star for a controversial
comments. You're taking a completely different direction.
You're doing it still within the screen universe.
Okay. I'm saying we step into reality.
Do a new nightmare. Do a new nightmare. A new nightmare
is what I'm saying. Yes. And then
you have, uh, like it's
like the filmmakers or the stars of the film.
They're like everyone's just playing a satirical
version of themselves. Yes. And then bam
I'm not she's in a ghost face.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's not going to happen, but yeah, sure, why the fuck not?
That would be cool.
And what a way to set that up by just completely throwing your studio under the bus to do it.
Great comment right here.
A new crowd of models once.
It was very varied range of intellects.
Of course it was, absolutely.
People are not just their job.
Jaden Stevens.
Hi, Greg, and John.
Hey.
Always a pleasure.
It's us, it is.
It is.
It's always a pleasure, oh.
to hear from you guys.
I love the channel in your videos,
so I've really got it me through this year.
I was excited to see Michael B
coming back to Direcrete 4.
Hell yeah, thank you for Generate.
Guys in the chat, are you excited for Creed
for?
Forever.
I got to use it at least once.
It would be fitting.
It's Creed.
Creed Forever.
Creed Forever would actually be fitting.
Usually that title you laugh at,
and I would still laugh.
But I think it's a very, very fitting title
for the Creed franchise
for a character
that started off in
1970s with Apollo
to now be carrying this franchise
and then if you are setting up
the daughter
to become a boxer
Dude, like it's
I think it works. It's the perfect amalgamation
of the heart
No. I like
This is not an enthusiastic
chat. Creed forever.
Creed forever is a perfect
title.
I thought this would be way more possible.
This chat is, like, so mixed so far on the Korean thing.
Did you think Rocky was milking it by four or five?
I just, you know, if we're aligned on that, then that's fine.
But I think Creed Forever is a title, just lovely, in a lovely way,
combines the heart and cheese of the Rocky series in general.
So I'm with it.
I mean, the Creed movies are way more serious than the Rocky films.
Yeah, I think there are some diminishing returns maybe just in that, like, you know,
We're in the biggest thick of it with Adonis,
and the first one, and the second one is super personal.
The third one is also personal,
but it does have that feeling of like,
okay, we need to expand this guy's life out
so we can get some more personal circumstances going.
So I can see them stretching,
but I didn't think it was bad.
Yeah, I mean, and the big talk about it was Jonathan Majors,
who will definitely be back.
Definitely.
So, yeah, I think...
Creed Forgotten.
Creed For Stick.
Creed Forstic.
Yeah, I think that...
What would get me excited,
at the end of it is Creed's franchise.
Adonis Creed's franchise.
He's got to fight Rocky's kid.
They got to figure out the whole thing with...
Is it Irving?
Not Irvin Kirchner.
Irvin Winkler?
Who's the producer?
The one who's in debacle with Sylvester Stallone.
They got to figure out that whole shit.
Yeah.
Because it is kind of weird.
when you do two Creed movies
where so much of the DNA
is with the Rocky franchise and the mentorship
and then we're like, we can't even mention him
really.
We can't really even acknowledge him.
Yeah, and I think that
they got to figure out something,
honestly.
Bringing back Clubber Lane and like it.
Yeah, Irvin Winkler.
It is Irvin Winkler. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think they should, I think they should do that.
They got to figure out that.
But I think my
Michael B. Jordan, that was his first movie he directed,
and I feel like he could do an even better job.
I mean, I think he did a great job
for a first one, film, honestly.
Clearly, he's studying on set.
But damn, yeah, I think he would be
doing even more impeccable job.
And, like, you can only imagine
how much more expressive and imaginative
the guy can get.
Yeah, totally. And how many more anime
flourishes he can pack in there.
And I think he can get a, I think he can examine
and maybe what he could have prepared for
or done a little better.
Yeah.
There were things I definitely had gripes
with the actual.
I like the first two-thirds a lot
and while the big talk is the big fight
at the end, I actually thought it got
like extremely rushed.
Yeah.
Like they, if my, I only saw it that one time.
But I think with my
memories for me to correct on my
emotional association was that
they kind of just like
slammed their foot on the acceleration.
Yeah.
At some point in the movie,
They were just like, we've got to get to the fucking finale.
All right, we've let this breathe.
Now we've got to wrap it up, okay?
Yeah, and I think that's a bit of the thing they've got to figure out.
Bring back Mr. T and also go listen to Aesop Rock's new song about him.
Tori, Jerry.
Thank you, Tori.
Thank you.
Love your profile pick.
First time super chat.
I appreciate all the work you do.
Which Barbie are you?
Oh, Don, please.
Are you guys excited for Doctor Who this weekend?
That's your ass.
We are.
That's what we're doing the stream today because we've got to cover.
Dr. Hood this weekend.
So excited.
Because we are caught up on Patreon with it, as a few weeks, like a month, two months ago.
Yeah.
We were like, you know what, let's put this on YouTube.
Yeah.
It's the first time I'm going to put it on YouTube, and I'm very excited for this return.
Hopefully it pans out well to be doing it for YouTube.
Because everything we've done for Doctor Who's just at our Patreon.
We're so late to it.
And this is a new reset going forward.
This will be listed as season one, so it's like a new, new who.
Interesting.
If that's, if I'm reading this correctly, you can clarify.
I thought it was just doing a couple specials with Tenet.
They're doing a couple specials with Tenet, and then we move on to 14, to Ngutti, Gatwa.
Interesting.
Interesting.
So, you know, we'll see.
I don't know.
Are they saying season one because they're going to do some timey-whimy-wee-me-shit with, like, the first doctor or something?
Is that what you mean?
Time-y-wibli-wobly.
I feel like any other franchise, this would be a clear sentiment with Doctor Who I'm like, what does it mean?
They're going to call it season one.
These are the three specials first.
Genocide will tweet from James Woods.
James Woods is rarely harmonizing with people.
And then we'll read the guy, then we'll read Kevin Sorbo's tweets.
I love Kevin Sorbo. Let's do it.
Kind of a soft reason.
He's a saint.
Interesting.
Well, thank you, Tori.
Yeah, no, we are very excited for it.
Assasop Rock is the king.
I mean, no shade day of Saprocky, but.
For the confusion's sake, I'll go with you.
After the specials, it will be season one.
Oh, dude, I see.
Okay, so it is a new era, a new area.
I mean, they really changed the lore.
They did.
And the fucking Jody Wittaker, we weren't the biggest fans of the...
The writing could be better off.
The writing and directing.
Man, there were some great episodes, though.
Yeah.
And the Whitaker, I mean, a lot of times it was kind of rough,
but there were times.
It was fucking amazing.
The fucking, the big major arc they did,
like at least half of those were phenomenal.
Yeah, that one season where we did the flux was really nice.
Yeah, that was, I thought like half of those were amazing.
And Jody killed, like, she filled the shoes and the coat,
all that stuff really well.
She really picked up the legacy and ran with it.
I think she did a great job.
And I don't think we'll be at L.A. Comic-Con, sadly, Gene.
If you go, let us know how it is.
John will be there. I'm always there.
I live at the convention center.
Jaden Stevens with Deadpool.
Thank you for the super chat, my friend.
Damn, Jody's still here.
I mean, Omni Man
still here.
When somebody said Michael B directing a Creed for
I was like, Omni Media?
I was like, oh yeah, Jordan.
I'm so used to see Michael B. Jordan as like one name.
Hey, hey, John did Dead Reckoning
with Omni Man.
Shouts out, go watch us, watch it.
I don't know why you don't ever cosplay as
Omni Man.
Maybe because he's not a Greek.
Jane Stevens with Deadpool being the only MCU title coming next year,
do you think it's more or less pressure on the film of Dew Well?
Yes.
I think it is more.
I never thought of it in terms of pressure.
There's a lot of pressure,
and I think it also makes a lot of sense to have it be the only MCU release next year
because I think there are two sets of stakes.
It's like there's the MCU stakes in the sense that like,
this got me good.
But also there's the stakes of, like, Deadpool's coming over.
This will be our first taste of, like, true anarchic R-rated Marvel.
And I don't know.
I think a lot of eyes are going to be on it
because the first Deadpool, obviously, is, like, an iconic movie.
A lot of people pretty much love Deadpool, too, or at least like it a lot.
So, like, the movie itself has to be great,
but it also has to be, like, a particularly momentous MCU installment.
And given that we're going to have Hugh Jackman back
and we're probably going to do some kind of crazy,
meta, you know, multi-studio universe-spanning thing.
I think it makes a lot of sense to make it like the centerpiece of a year,
but I also think that, yeah, it will have like so much writing on it from multiple angles.
I think it helps make it feel so much more special that it's only going to be one movie
when this movie should feel special and not just be another one in the pantheon of MCU films.
And for all the movies for it to be solo, yeah, this one makes sense.
And especially for, you know, like usually MCU has been like,
releasing three movies a year.
To deuce it down to just one
and to have it be Deadpool 3, I think that
really shines a good spotlight
on it. And they can release six
following year. Kink that
hose. To make up for it and then release
a few more shows.
I like Deadpool 2 more than the first one.
A lot of people don't share that opinion, but I
personally... I like Deadpool 2 a lot.
I need to rewatch
the X-Men 97, man.
I really do, because I'm like, oh man, I
remember that shot i'm seeing something i was a kid i keep talking about it coming back and i'm like i don't want to be that guy when i'm watching yeah who's just complaining like you should make this for people who definitely serialized uh gary um thank you for being back here my friend it will really mess with people's head of ghost face takes some ass off and says it was randy all along well yeah that's impossible it won't make any sense
break people's heads
every movie it's been Randy
yeah yeah no get Alex
aja's scream and then we can just do
a high tension again
he's just like this aggressively makes
no sense but it's really intense
I think a scream trope that needs to
die is how they
handle killer reveals it's always
fun figuring out who the killer is
and being wrong or being right
I always love the game of it
it's part of the fun of every single scream
It's like what Saw when you're trying to figure out what the big twist is.
Do it Saw 2.
Did you like the twisting?
I haven't seen Saw.
Everyone shut up.
Stop.
Stop, stop, stop.
No, 10 people.
Oh, God, John.
You know what you just did?
You started to ass.
I cut myself off.
Oh, God, I'm afraid of look.
Oh, no.
He's got to let this die.
If you see something, you better fucking shield me right away.
I agree.
My eyes are locked.
If you say, don't do this.
There's going to be that one fucking asshole.
I don't know what to say right now.
I feel like there's something I could say to set you at ease, but I also don't want to say too much of anything.
Don't tell me.
We're dropping the subject.
We're dropping the subject.
You shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
We're dropping the subject.
Yeah, Aesop Rock is one of the best rappers of all time.
If you don't know Aesop Rock's music, go check them out, all right.
Mindful solution is.
You have set our friendship back 10 years, John.
I have been working so hard to get it back.
And it all comes crashing down today.
But yeah, if it was Randy all along, I think people would be excited, but it would make any sense.
Here's what they need to change about it.
Is I'm so sick and tired of whenever they do the killer review, how they all behave the exact fucking same.
They all behave the same.
Yeah.
They're all this, like, annoying, maniacal personnel.
It's my favorite horror franchise.
Everyone's trying to become Matthew Lillard in that moment.
And the only time it really fucking worked.
But it was him, yeah.
It was Matthew Lillard.
Have different motivations or vibes.
Yeah, not everybody has to go, like, full on crazy.
And part of the fun with that was having Matthew Lillard and, um...
And Skeed Ulrich.
And they had different tones to their killer.
You know, one was like, I'm a serious actor.
Yeah, I'm like, you're going to fuck about this, man.
Yeah, yeah.
It's your heartthrob and your like wacky, anarchic energy guy.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So, but now it's always like, we're both like it crazy.
Yeah, totally.
Don't mind if I do.
It's like the tree house of horror.
Christian, unpranounceable, always one of the first people who's in our streams.
One of the first people are comments all the time.
How many Celestials do you think there are?
Four to six.
According to four dialogue.
And the age of our universe, Timot, would have been the 13th born.
So there were 12 others born before him.
many were there originally no no there was one originally there was one and then
they became more I don't know that's a coy question I'm sure there's some
kind of like well they had to have four at the beginning because of these
I'm gonna figure this out I'm gonna figure this out hold on it's like let me just
copy and paste this oh bring back officer doofy I think that would be very fun if
they did a crossover that way so we're gonna ask Google Bard sure let's do
I'm going to ask Google Bar, what Google Bart thinks.
Eresham. Good that you
remember the name there.
I'm just going to ask
Google Bar, maybe we'll get the exact answer.
Come on, Google Bard, in the movie
Eternals, Erisham, the leader of the Celestial
States, the T.M.O. It was the seventh
celestial to be born. This contradicts the
earlier statement that the CEMO was the 13th
to be born. This discrepancy could be attributed
to a number of factors, such as the vastness of the
cosmos and the limited knowledge of the eternals themselves.
It is also possible that the celestial do not
follow the same order of birth, or that there
are multiple generations of Celestials.
Ultimately, the exact number of Celestials
is unknown. However, based on
the available information, is likely that there are
at least dozen Celestials in existence.
But that doesn't really tell us how much
they were original. God, I barely think about the
Celestials. And that's part of the problem with the
The MCU doesn't either. It's part of the problem
with the focus of the MCU before it was just
like, focus on one thing, Thanos
and Infinity Stones.
And don't... Because they were going hand in
hand, Thanos and the Infinity Stones.
And it was unfolding in a way that wasn't
telegraphing to you so far in advance that that's what it was.
And then they made all these announcements for phase four through six.
And they were like, oh, shit, all this stuff is coming and it's all connected.
And, yeah, all the stuff has been coming.
But, like, it's so much less than all of that, you know, or so much less connected and mapped out, seeming.
The original, but I appreciate the inquiry.
Dead shot.
Did you guys see Saw Exxon?
What did you think?
You better be careful, Sean.
uh well i'll give you guys a quick to slam i have not seen saw x yet i was going to
their plan originally was let erin and terra catch up and then the four of us were going to do it
uh all together yeah but then uh just the timing of everything and the way this the week was looking
people leaving town it was a lot of chaos it was yeah and i had to work on other stuff i just
just plain and simple had to do a bunch of other things that day.
Well, they got to do the fun thing.
I really literally, I was so sad.
I was like chopping away and I just hear them screaming and like all this noise.
And I was like, there you go to another room.
I honestly.
And I was so, I was so worried that you guys are going to like say something as well.
I still haven't seen it.
No, the second we cut out, I was like, guys, be very careful.
I don't want anything spoiled.
Yeah, but I did, I did buy it for them.
So I own it.
As I'm going to, like, watch it.
I absolutely wanted to share that with you.
I won't say much of anything.
But as a soft fan for a long time through the ups and downs,
it put joy into my heart, and I was very pleased.
You know, I'm excited to discuss it.
But, yeah, that's all I'll say.
That's, I mean, the point, the original plan was for that.
That's why I didn't watch in the theaters.
Because originally I was going to just go watch in the theaters.
I've seen, like, most of them in the theaters.
I've definitely seen.
Pretty much all of them, yeah.
Maybe there's been, like, two, I didn't catch in the theaters.
theaters.
No, I can't catch was the first.
This is definitely the longest I've been without seeing
a saw a movie, that's for sure.
I'm excited to hear your thoughts.
MC,
No Light.
Thank you so much.
I just think Noren, a rad story of
serving Galactus only to
save his home world.
Wife specifically is
integral to the character, but I guess you
could say she's wanting to save her husband.
There's so much to that.
I think you can do.
Make a lesbian.
Was,
riddle me this was
was Norenrad's wife like a
really specific big character
or was it just the classic like
I love my wife and want to save my wife so I'm
going to do stuff because my wife like
I don't know I think you know the answer John
you can gender bend that in a way
that works a billion like I don't want my
home world to die I miss my husband it can be
whatever I don't think it's that big of a
I don't think gender really
means much to the DNA of
the character yeah
that's true it's like there's nothing that
needs him to
him or them to be whatever
you know yeah
it's not like Miles Morales
Morales needs to be
you know of mixed ethnicity
because that's who that cares part of the identity
but like you know
silver server can be
as long as they're silver I think it's
fine I mean we don't really know the his
like yeah
like what's the wife's name
do we know the wife's name
does she have a name
what's the wife's name
Let me try to find it.
Let me try to find it.
Shala Ball.
Shalabal. Okay.
He's a character from his home planet of Zen Law.
He plays a significant role in his backstory,
particularly in the narrative
of why he serves as Harold de Plaquist.
I think you can swap it with anybody
who is important at you.
Essentially.
Hey, Galaxy Geeks, thank you for being here.
Thank you for showing up.
Hey, there you go.
Got some people know the name in the chat.
Mrs. Rad.
Nikki Minaj, Silver, Surface.
she's already in the universe, so it makes sense.
Carson, I mean,
no, I think it's not a big deal if you just make,
I really don't. This isn't like us being
Mr. Progressive over here.
I just don't give a shit.
Like, who gives a shit?
It's more about the demeanor and the look of the care.
You could have the exact same motivation for a,
it doesn't have to say, they can be another woman.
It could be a lesbian couple.
Or they even call it that.
The Silver Surfer is now a big gay family.
Let it be.
Who cares?
Who gives his shit?
As long as they're silver and they're just like sort of cut like the quintessential human specimen, I think that's...
Look, he already doesn't have genitalia.
Yeah.
Just give Silver Surfer a huge rack.
Yes.
It's the same bald red.
No, keep the bald head.
Don't even give her hair if you make it a woman.
Bald head with a huge red.
drag.
Yes.
I think.
And big curvy hips.
Yes.
A giant ass.
Yeah, like a fertility goddess
silver surfer.
Like make it look like the hottest
mannequin you've ever seen.
They're going to have to find somebody
who is like fit and has a
dancer body. Probably is what they're
going to do. It's mocap, dude.
I'm just like, if they do make her a woman, make her
buff you cowards.
Just make her buff.
Big booby. One thing I'll always say for
Zach Snyder is like the Amazonians
in his themisgira are like
built and that's what's up
look I don't care of what
your opinion is on Zach Snyder here's what we know
yeah he knows how to capture human
anatomy with this
this like oozing
awe that you've never
quite seen he would have
like sculpted the craziest David
if he was in that era
yeah oh dear totally yeah the most
admiration the most like
ether get the silver surfer
why not you know it's fine it works yeah i can kind of even see it this is a problem i can see niobe silver
server carson hudkins thank you carson chris pratt and pedro pascal starring in scream seven confirmed
i would love that i don't for some reason i cannot imagine the two of them in the same thing
but either of them in a scream pedro is on the verge though of being cast and
too much.
He's
dancing all over the line.
I'm not there.
I think it's because he's in
big things.
He's like in the big franchises.
And people and just
people fucking love him.
Because people were like
people are like, I just feel like
he's like the go-to name for everything.
I'm like, I don't think he is.
I rarely hear his name.
Like you can't say he's the go-to name for
everything when people were talking about Reed Richards.
No one brought up.
Yeah, no what he brought him.
Yeah, so you can't, and there were people who were saying, like, he's just like to go to.
I'm like, but no, he's not.
He's a go to for a type of role now.
Yeah, yeah, but, um, and, but there is a thing where I'm like, okay, he's, he's in a lot of the big stuff now.
And Chris Pratt is not versatile enough in his voices to be doing all the voices.
I got to say that.
I did preview that Garfield trailer and I was like, it fits, but it's not.
He's just not versatile enough in the voices, you know.
I, this is the, that is what I'll agree with.
It's like, you need to dial back some of this Chris Pratt and every animated thing.
If it's only been two.
I mean, he's done like other animated shit, but I'm like, two big ones now.
We might need to dial that back a little bit.
This is the first time in a long time where I have been like marveling at how good his people must be.
Because it's such a meme.
And yet, like, whoever's his booking agent, like, must have some kind of crazy Illuminati skills or a lot of dirt or both on people.
Because, yeah, like, I'm like, he's, I forgot he was Garfield,
but I was like, this seems like a joke.
Someone's pulling on me.
Right. I'm right there with you.
Goat Nation. What up, Goat Nation?
Greatest of all time.
You're saying you guys are amazing.
You're amazing.
I'd make a love to your super chat, Goon Nation.
Because you're amazing.
I'm just going to refresh this really quick to make sure we're not missing anything.
I don't refresh shit.
We should probably, we do got other things you got it too.
so we could have Thanksgiving.
Oh, my God.
What?
Chris, you generous.
Chris.
We've got to get to that.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, my God.
Christopher.
Christian wham off.
I would say stop, Chris,
but I'm hoping that there comes a point
where you're going to just ask for all of it.
Hey, I have destitute now.
I've made a big mistake.
Any chance you still have.
It would be so fun.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
It's okay, Chris.
Now there's a pressure.
We're going to erect a statue of Chris here.
Holy shit.
Can we get your likeness?
We need Zach Snyder to shoot Chris.
That would be the last thing we read is Chris Whammo.
Dedicate too much time.
Damn.
Miss Teodora.
I recognize your profile.
That is Micasa from the Attack on Titan finale.
Happy Wednesday, my love.
Excited for the new Doctor Who?
Very much.
fucking lootly.
We're excited for the new doctor.
Can't wait for it.
More timey, wimy, wibbly wobbly.
Reverse the polarity.
All on Z.
Alon Z. There you go.
Terrifier 3 trailer. I haven't seen it.
Have you seen any of the terrifiers?
No. Or apparently there's terrifiers and there's all through the night.
There's like a movie that sets up Art the Clown and then there are terrifiers.
And that's like a Christmas movie.
So like I'm like, ooh, maybe this.
Christmas movie would be the good place to start.
Christmas horror is a really hard
one to crack. It is. It is.
What do we got? We got
crampus, we got Gremlins,
and we got
Black Christmas. It's just you really
It's just... First time
live... Oh, thank you so much.
Super, thank you.
Damn, that's a fucking chat.
I just... Oh, okay.
Omar.
I'm going to have some heavy stuff to talk about, but thank you
for joining it for the first time.
Thank you.
and Christian
Go check out the creator
It's pretty decent
Did you see the Nasrato Tees by Robert Eggers?
No
Let's look at it
Oh, let's see it
All I heard was he said
He said like
I can't see Bill Scarsgard
Like he's just not there
He's so in the role that he's just not there
Bill Scarsgarde's playing it huh?
Yeah
I see it
There's so many Scarsguards
Is he just like a
It's just like a text?
Or is it an actual photo?
Oh, no, there's an actual photo.
Oh, golly, wowie.
Let's see it.
What do we got?
What do we got?
Come on, give me a high-res empire.
It's a channel that has ads on their videos.
I'm so much annoyed when I encounter it.
It's my stuff.
I'm very zen about it.
Whenever I see an ad.
I'm watching an ad on anything independent that I care to support.
I'm just trying to like to read something.
Because I think, okay, ads on a video or, I'm just like,
you just have to hear it.
Like skip ad butter if you really want to, right?
Yes.
But like on an article, it's like, oh, man, what the fuck?
How do I get around this thing?
Yeah.
So it's just his fingers looming, his outstretched hand looming across the young ingenue's face.
Damn, a Robert Eggers, Nosphiratu is going to be something special.
Yeah, boy.
That seems like an ideal project.
Because you just know that that is going to be like, I don't know what they're talking about.
They're speaking way too akin to the time period.
My soul just feels dark.
Is there subtitles? Why is there no subtitles?
Yeah.
This is English? Oh, wow. This is English, I guess.
I still haven't seen The Northman.
I've only seen The Witch of his movies, actually.
Really?
Yeah, I haven't seen The Lighthouse yet.
Nah, man, it's a good movie.
Why'd you spill your beans?
Terrify, we'll definitely be watched this Frankenstein, I hope so.
King Tut.
On another note, thank you, King Tut.
Oh, let's give us a chance to talk about something.
I don't know.
Who would you rather see
come out of Sony Spider-Vers
Live-action movies?
Scarlet Spider, Ben Riley, or Spider-Man
299?
I think Spider-Man
2099, I mean,
I know there's a lot of champion
right now for Scarlet Spider.
I feel like Scarlet Spider
wouldn't...
Oh, man, now I'm like so back and forth
in my own brain about it.
I feel like Scarlet Spider
suits what their universe is better.
Yes, yes.
But, I mean, there's something.
I guess it just depends on the film.
Like, for what Spider-Man films are currently like,
I think Spider-Man 2099 for shit with, like, multiverse.
And kind of like a more, trying to go for like a more approachable,
darker approach.
Yeah.
I think Spider-Man 299 kind of makes a little bit more sense.
It would be a good tire around.
Or Scarlet Spider's a little bit more something you would kind of laugh at a little bit right now.
There's a way to make him cool.
but in the tandem of things I'm assuming the question is coming from like not not just adapting the scarlet spider spider spider's tournament like actually pulling them from the across the spider verse films and putting them in a live action that's how I'm reading this question because you're saying it's so many spider verse I think it would make 299 makes more sense to do that and would be more accessible and adaptable because right now scarlet spider is a bit just of a one
no joke.
Well, I think that's the thing, yeah, is if you
use, if you bring in Spider-Man
2099, that actually
seems like a conscientious choice
because that establishes,
I think that would just make an easy
in-road to have a Ben Riley than
after that, you know, it just gives your
multiverse in live action for Sony.
A lot more credence, I think, if you,
yeah, and plus you'd have the surprise
of like, oh shit, it's Oscar Isaac,
you know, or something like that. I don't know if you do it,
but, you know, at least the
recognition of oh, damn, $2,99's in live action.
This clearly implies things.
And then, yeah.
Yeah, but it's my take.
That's my take.
But I think Ben Riley, if they weren't planning to do a crossover that culminates in a Spider-Man 4 or something, if they were just keeping this like one-offs, I would say, Brennan Riley.
Guys, we have immensely lost track of the time we've been.
Nah, not us, G, never.
I think John and I really needed a live stream today.
We needed a loose one.
We really need it. We really needed a, like, just a fun, loose one today.
But, damn, we have really lost track of time.
We were supposed to, the idea was just to go from 12 to 2.
And I'm like, oh, we are so, we've just got it.
6 p.m.
And honestly, we've been enjoying our, I've really been enjoying this so much being here.
And it's been just to, like, sit back.
Like, the live streams I enjoyed, it's just like having the conversation has been so fun.
We're not going to end right now because we don't end the stream of that.
governing all of our super chats and everything like that.
This has been incredibly enjoyable.
Another first time soup.
Thank you so much.
We are going to hit the button in just a couple minutes to not allow anymore.
That would be a nicer way of phrasing it, where you guys cannot be so kind anymore to
donate to the super chats.
But we want to make sure we read them all up.
But yeah, man, we've got like several more hours of things today.
too. And we want to make sure we can have our Thanksgiving.
Also, sorry. All Hallows Eve and Art is played by a different guy.
So sorry for the misinformation there, Terrify it's Reef the Christmas one.
It is. No, I mean, honestly, like, this has been really, it's been extremely enjoyable being here.
Like, a lot of times we do live streams and I, and I just kind of just wanted to stay here all day.
Yeah.
Because they're so fun.
Oh, sir.
It's just fun to have the conversation, you know?
Yeah. Because a lot of times when you're filming videos, you know, especially when I'm like,
these movie and show reactions
and a lot of times I'm like so aware of that
of the edit
and and it's like my mind has to kind of be
simultaneously in two places at once
and I'm aware of like time
all these things so
and and for this
it's just like ah just let's just sit back
relax and just enjoy a conversation
and I'll spend an obnoxious amount of time on
one question
you know
MC versus versus you know
being like fucking grubes
Yeah, totally.
Don't feel the need to chop, chop.
Now we've got it carried away.
We are way, now it's like,
now the other shit we got to do is going to feel like that.
And we're like, fucker-go-go-c-cuh-cuh.
It's so enjoyable.
MC, no-lite.
If super chats aren't working for you,
you might, well, if you're commenting,
you're subscribed.
You're lying.
We kind of bring that as one of the audios.
You're lying.
Brian Cranston from Godzilla.
Remember that?
It's not a typhoon.
Yeah.
We just need the, you're lying.
Yeah, that was like the.
It's the Brian Cranston impression quote.
God.
I fucking, guys, I got to say, I'm revisiting Monarch,
it's for some reason making me go back to the 2014 Godzilla movie.
I genuinely think that movie is severely underrated.
When I rewatched those films leading into Godzilla v. Kong.
In court of long.
No, no, I mean, that's Batman v. Superman.
Yes.
I just feel like it saves time.
VECON.
Yes, it does.
And the explanation following also saves.
Get a whole syllable back, you know.
So much you could do with that.
Like explain taking out the syllable.
But Godzilla VECA.
But 2014 Godzilla's is my favorite of the Monsterverse movies.
It's the most of an actual film, you know.
The rest of them seem like they're trying to find out
how to be the most marketable versions of themselves.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I like, I like Kong Sol Island.
I like, I like King of the Monsters, and I know 2014's the one.
But I honestly think the presence, Shin Godzilla reaction coming this weekend.
He hasn't seen it.
So good.
He hasn't seen it.
But he's, him and Andrew.
I'm excited, boy.
I was like, we're doing it, guys.
All I've heard is doing it.
It's doing it.
Yeah, and to me, I think the, there's like two ways to capture Godzilla,
and I think the, capturing it from the people's perspective and the obscurity
makes those moments so rewarding and the fear of Godzilla.
And, like, you get these, like, cathartic moments.
Like, that's the one that gives you that extended roar.
Yeah.
You know, where he's just at the screen and he sees the muto.
Like, I love this shit out of that, 20s.
2014 one. I really do. I think it's
fucking phenomenal. I think
it is like I love the movie
as a whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, not just the last 10 minutes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not just like we're
not just oh, finally Godzilla. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think the movie
admittedly I didn't love it as much
the first time I saw it because I was not
prepared for that.
Yeah, yeah. But going into it
a couple years later, knowing that
I was really able to
appreciate everything about it.
And it is my favorite one of them all.
And I'm not trying to be like cool, contrarian opinion guy.
It is just my, personally my favorite one of the films.
And then I would put Godzilla-V-Cong.
Not versus Kong.
Just to explain.
It's not versus the actual title, but I say V-Cong to save time.
Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, you bought us so much.
Guy Coast.
Andres, good to see you, bud.
Happy Thanksgiving, my friends.
What movies do you find your?
yourself watching on Thanksgiving.
Matt Colton, he already watched it.
So your heads up is a little late.
Uh-oh.
What movies do you find yourself watching on Thanksgiving?
You know, I was thinking about this when I was exercising today.
My mind was saying, like, if I have time tomorrow, I would love to rewatch the bad.
I don't know what.
I don't have like a go-to Thanksgiving film.
I don't have that for this holiday.
maybe kills the flower
I don't know
I don't have
I don't have yeah we did talk with the car
because I don't have like
a go-to Thanksgiving movie
but I haven't seen the Batman
on as I own it
on Blu-ray and I haven't seen it
on on the nice TV we have
I've only seen it in the theaters
but I saw it in theaters three times
so it would be like
It would be kind of cool.
It's sort of, because I feel like sometimes I appreciate even more at home,
because I can just sort of see the whole picture easier.
Yeah.
And you can examine in a different way.
Yeah, and I just haven't had that enjoy.
And no seating experience is going to be more comfortable than my couch.
Because honestly, three hours in any movie theater gets a little uncomfortable.
So, yeah, I would like to, my mind is telling me try to watch that.
Sure.
That's a good, I feel like this is a good November movie.
You know, it's very rain, it's very gray, it's very dreary of the season.
True.
I feel like my answers will all be sort of more, you know, kind of chinty than that.
Like, Adam's Family Values is a great one, I think.
I feel like we often pull out, like, if we're, like, doing the family pie thing after dinner,
it's usually like a classic, like, Meet Me in St. Louis or something like that.
I want to watch some of the Thanksgiving-themed horror movies that are out there.
You know, Thanksgiving.
Spyglass Entertainment's Thanksgiving, baby!
I'm just going to turn a Playa, go watch that for a minute.
I really think that should have been a streaming movie.
I've heard it's good.
I've heard it is good.
And I support the theatrical release.
That just seems like you would have had a better gamble on streaming.
It seems like the kind of thing you would ideally want to do what they do with the Halloween
or Five Nights of Freddy's where you do a day and date so that people at home can watch it
and people who go to the movies on Thanksgiving can also watch it.
I mean, you probably wouldn't have as,
because at least with those like Halloween and Five Nights,
you have an actual chance of making money at the theaters.
Versus this, I feel like most people would be like,
well, I'm just going to fucking, I don't know,
what the fuck is this, just watch this at home.
But I think because of the positive reception it had,
I think people would have actually been like,
you know, making TikToks about it
and creating a social media conversation around it.
And then you would have been able to attract,
lot of attention for it versus
I don't know
there's something that's a really
it's a really hard sell
like for anything
horror related post
Halloween
like I'm talking unless it's like specifically
that like a yeah I'm not talking January I'm talking
literally Thanksgiving and Christmas
it's a really fucking hard sell because that's
not what the kind of movies people are in the mood
for it's November 1st
man people are like let's get cheery
yeah and I think it's especially
stupid when movies
decide to release horror movies like
a few days after Halloween.
Like when they did that for Overlord.
Like that was one of the dumbest, I'll never
forget that. Like, what an idiotic decision.
You could make a whole film festival
out of movies that should have
been released for Halloween season.
Just this year alone, I've heard people lament
like, Renfield and the haunted mansion
probably would have done a lot better if they
put them out at the time where people
want to do a haunted house. I don't
understand the reasoning for.
a lot of these
decision makings of like
it's pretty simple guys
there's a time where people are in the move
for spooky stuff
yeah put it out then
fuck go September if you have to
yeah don't go in April
what are you doing and especially
when most of you
most of these theaters
they most
studios know that their best bet
are not really going to be a Barbie
when you're going to get all these
crazy repeat viewings odds are
Are you going to experience some, like, 50 to 70% dip your second week?
That's your likelihood.
So why not just take advantage of the Halloween season?
Yeah.
Even if there's more saturation, people are going to be looking for these kinds of movies.
Exactly.
Put it, like, end of September then.
Like, get you in the mood.
Or, heck, end of August, if we're really stretching.
But, yeah, something that looms Halloween rather than, you know, is April.
It's so stupid.
Or November, you know, 20th or something like that.
Because, yeah, I mean, it's a really hard.
sell this fucking like even Thanksgiving
even if it's like oh we're doing a
Thanksgiving a themed
you know a holiday it's it's
it's a tough one there's still a debate is
Night before Christmas a Halloween or Christmas movie
that's a November movie to me it's for
that's perfect November for the transition
perfect yeah it's perfect yeah
like I always want to stop halfway through
whenever I go to Disney if it never
happens now but like the times when I've been to
Disneyland in October I'm always a little bit like
I like Nightmare for Christmas
but I kind of want the haunted mansion
vibes right now. You know, like that's an
after Halloween movie. Yeah, and I think
I think Blade releasing
in November is like,
guys, don't do, come on.
Come on. I can
almost, it's like
it should be released in time for Halloween.
They should be capitalizing on Halloween. I can
see how an action horror movie
might still perform, but it's still funky.
I think you give your like your A-24
horror movies
between January
to June.
Those ones that aren't like, yeah.
Like your talk to me's.
Yeah, these dramatic horror movies.
Yeah, you put them there.
Put the cerebral horror stuff.
Your nopes.
Sure.
Your horror genre splices.
But then you do your, yeah, I know we really got to go through the chats.
Look, guys, I'm sorry.
People are name checking planes trains, which you reacted to.
You're not going to watch them, Thanksgiving?
Yeah, I got to.
I've never seen it.
I got a pot, yeah, because we do have, man, I'm just enjoying this.
If we could just do this all day.
If we could just do this all day, I would.
I can do this all day.
I can just live chat all.
Because, you know, we have a lot of, this allows us to get a variety of topics out of the way.
It's fun, John.
It is fun.
Excuse me for having a good time talking with people and seeing what everyone has to say.
I'm the asshole.
No, okay, so what were we talking about, John?
We were talking about it.
Just turning out the, whoever was the last super is the last super.
I just feel like it would be easier to do.
Nothing is easy.
Nothing is easy.
When everything is up to 500% nothing is easy.
Oh, we're all zoomed.
Okay, okay, Jonathan.
You have the thing right there.
Where?
I don't see it.
Scroll down gently, very gently.
Oh, it's right there.
Okay, my bad.
Oh, I didn't see it there.
Yeah, it's a bit easy.
Then it gives me my thread.
Yeah, are you sure?
If you continue, your fans will no longer see Super Chats as a purchase option,
and you'll no longer earn revenue from it.
Ever again until you get the full slider.
Revenue is everything.
Buy Pockeman's expensive cookies to do.
Oh, yeah, get a Mr. Beast bar.
Get some broke-ass bitches out there.
What's the Logan Paul drink?
What a Pokemon say?
I was like, oh, girl.
I actually kind of like you, man.
I actually enjoy you.
You're saying some tone-deaf shit right now.
Oh, no.
What did Pokemon do?
Something about, like, people bitching about her expensive-ass cookies
and then she made a joke.
Oh, no.
To make you a broke-ass something.
And I was like, oh, girl, what'd you say?
Don't slag your young fans.
You're one of those people.
I'm progressively having a harder time in admitting I enjoy watching police.
Sure.
It's not making this hard for me.
You're not helping us.
You're enjoyable to me.
I just feel like girl gamers get a much harder rep,
and I have no idea why.
Girls don't game.
Girls don't ever have a hard time.
It's the woke left trying to pull one over on you.
True, true.
Yeah.
It's good thing we're going to have the chat in front of us right now,
because we don't know what the fuck they're saying.
And Doris are just the comments throughout this phone.
Harry Potter's come out over Thanksgiving to some time.
John, we must.
There is, there is unfortunately a busy day.
Aisha Kenya.
How many people we still have?
Nine.
Six hundred eighty one.
Still six hundred eighty one people.
That's pretty awesome.
On the day before Thanksgiving.
Yeah, Wednesday for Thanksgiving.
Afternoon.
That's pretty awesome to me, man.
Aisha Kenya.
Thank you for for chiming in once again.
We do appreciate you.
You hold it down in the chat.
She's here all the time.
Yeah.
I appreciate you, Aisha.
Seriously, she's here all the time.
Yeah.
And then we do have some super stream labs as well.
People can sneak in some.
I see you camera, MJ.
We'll get there.
Sliding into the stream M's.
She's saying in this somewhat toxic world,
you two are a breath of fresh air.
I'm thankful you both.
Hey, Bonnie, I'm thankful you both exist.
We love you guys.
Thank you, Ayesha.
You're always here,
and you're always very supportive and positive.
And I really, really take notice of that.
Even if we don't have an opinion you agree with, I know it's always very respectable.
So thank you.
Much love to you.
We do our best to be the same.
It's hard to be non-toxic.
It's constant work to be non-toxic in a toxic world.
We're always lying.
And we're always worried that we're secretly terrible.
And yes, I will get Andrew to watch some Tarantino movies on this channel.
He made a terribly calculated mistake.
I'm going to expose Andrew right now.
Do you remember when I said, in this.
Oh.
You're watching Kill Bill here.
Yes, I did.
They recorded it.
That's synophiles.
And I was like, what did you just?
You broke your pact.
Dude.
You son of a bitch.
I'm going to kill you.
I'm going to rip that mustache right off your face.
Then I called Jabby and I said, don't you dare upload that video?
And he said, what?
Public.
Uh-oh.
And then I said, you're not coming over for you.
You're not coming over for Thanksgiving, Jabby.
Damn, Jabvis, Cablavus.
The Dumer.
Moment of silence. Thank you.
Yeah.
Go listen to some MF Doom.
Just the rest of the child.
I know, Doomer, you are already.
I keep thinking that, that blot on your, the splat on your jacket is, is a, is something wrong with the camera.
Nope, nope, it's his blood.
You guys are always super genuine and nice.
I'd like to think so.
We do our best
I like to think sincerity is the name of the game
Oh it's cool to be on the background at work
Sound off if you're at work and we're on in the background
I haven't seen succession yet
No no no I haven't
Oh my life is a constant dichotomy of me going
Fuck I wish I had a camera pointer
And then going I wish I could just do anything
Without a camera pointed to me
Yeah man
That is the switch.
Koi is in the chat.
No fucking way.
Look how handsome.
Koi is.
Koi, we miss you.
We love you.
Do a rant in the chat.
Chat rant Koi.
Guys, say something offensive about something and
Koi will go off on you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Somebody give Koi something to go off about it.
Thanks, Omni, for being here.
Shout out to Koi.
How's your girlfriend, Koi?
How's your attractive
black girlfriend that you are dating?
So that way you don't look racist.
Eating for this world.
Oh, God.
Jesus Christ.
No.
No.
No, we're not feeding this.
We should feed it.
Yes, we should.
Coy.
Coy.
Toy.
How is your non-racist relationship?
Sorry.
Ever since that stream, Coy, it's going to be the reoccurring.
People just existing is really hard.
It's a reoccurring joke from you, my friend.
He's going to leave right now.
Koi's only dated good-looking people
Oh
It's really distracting
That's part of the criteria on
You know
He's like Scientology
Get an ugly one in there once in a while would you
And yeah
And there's chemistry tests and stuff
It's getting annoying
It's getting annoying
It's looking self-indulgent
Eight-Leged Freaks is the best
Spider- Reverse story ever
She's gorgeous
No
They're both lucky people
Are we a lot of their name?
I know
She's gorgeous.
She is.
Yeah, and she's, oh man, she is a,
Coy's, I don't know if we're a lot of Sarah's name or not.
I'll wait for Coy to say.
Coy and Mrs. Coy.
I think she has a very grounded personality,
and I think she's a perfect balance for the kind of eccentricities
that Coy brings.
And I could, like, she really,
even like the,
Because I really liked her a lot when I met her prior to them becoming officially boyfriend and girlfriend.
And I was extreme.
I was kind of aggressive to Coy about push.
I was pushing towards really like.
This is a keep of Coy.
No, I was that attitude about it of like you really should ask her to be a girlfriend and you really should like have that conversation.
I was very not going to go to the personal conversations too much.
I'm just saying, like, I really liked her a lot, and I was very supportive.
And then the time I saw them for the first time since being official was on my birthday.
And you could just see that chemistry with them and the balance and the acceptance of two very different personalities where there is an ease to them.
And yeah, I think she's, I think she's a wonderful human being.
And very creative, too, and funny and honest.
Sharp.
There's a savvy.
It's a true.
It's true.
She reads of sincerity.
And, yeah, she's great.
And more importantly, she helps Koi not look racist.
Yes.
Always.
It's hard out here for a guy who looks as Neo as Koi does.
Oh, man.
Ever since he shaved his head again, I was like, what the fuck?
What are you doing?
You're already a blonde Boston guy.
You better date a non-white woman, Koi.
To balance this out.
We've picked some people out.
That was the conversation.
I didn't.
want to tell you guys but that was what it was okay was me being coy look man you got the shaved
head white boy thing going on you got to pull the bill burn yeah yeah yeah yeah also hey it would
be good if you maybe go out and like do some charitable work or feed the homeless or something just
help your really really talk about it too help your image out yeah um this is all
facts to any of this is all authentic genuine facts did coy go I've been
her hide my phone so my girlfriend doesn't hear any of this way yeah is she upset now have you just made an enemy
are they're fighting right now no pizano gamers feelings on beast being cg oh my god no i i i fucking hated
that shit you really this was i think the first time where you were much more incensed about that
that i was i i don't love the choice but i wasn't like no whoa john yeah i
I would much prefer a practical beast.
We have like 48 movies of beast being practical.
Yeah, no, I agree.
You don't just fucking go.
But it's exactly what the MCU would do.
It's exactly what they would do.
I'm not giving it a pass.
I don't know.
I don't care how old, Kelsey Grammar is.
You put that old-ass Republican in that blue makeup.
All right.
I mean, sure.
Again, I'm not going to argue too hard against a practical effect.
You know, and I don't know.
The thing is, part of me is curious because I'm like,
I don't know if we're there.
The thing is, like, if we're there and it looks great, then fine.
But, you know, I don't know if we're there.
Yeah, yeah, no.
I'm not a fan of it.
I think it's very distracting, and it pulls me out of the believability of it.
This is going to be fun, Josh.
That's part of the awe.
That's part of the awe to it when you see Beast in practical effects.
I don't even care if at first you're like, oh, it looks a little weird because you get used to it.
And then it feels realistic.
It's there.
And part of it, of the realism is beast doesn't want to fucking look like a beast.
Like, he doesn't want to look that way.
And he's had to, he's trying, he's had to accept himself as a mutant.
And part of that is to have that effect when you first see him.
And you're like, oh, it looks a little weird.
Because you want to react that way.
And to have that tangibility, that believability and makeup where you're like,
oh, that's odd.
I think that's important.
Yeah, I do.
I think it's important.
And especially if you're going to,
it's important to me, especially if you are carrying over a character portrayal that is preexisting.
If you're doing a brand new take, if you're doing a brand new take, like Seattle's pointing out in the chat,
Groot, Hulk, Thanos, all brand new for the MCU, even Hulk prior in Aang Lee's, CGI.
They did not do practical.
But if you are bringing over Kelsey Grammer Beasts from the X-Men movies,
who has been practical, then you should be giving,
I will fight to the death that that should be practical effect.
That makes sense.
I agree.
All right.
All right.
Come here, buddy.
Come here, copper.
Let's get this going.
Come here.
I know you're hungry.
I'm hungry, too.
I did not eat like a dumb ass.
John Stang.
drop from Joshua
we're very Palestine. Interesting you chose to
do a live on this without also condemning the terrorist
attack on October 7th. Thanks a lot
John. Yeah, this is my fault.
I would love to know what the rest
of the sentence that I said... I was trying to
bait into getting a super chat here.
Yeah, yeah. Follow
up with the end of that sentence so I know
exactly how to respond to this. Of course
I...
What do you mean? Like I didn't condemn it on the day.
What did I say before we were on live? I said, you
be careful.
about how, because I'm going to pinpoint
everything we say. I know.
I'm going to find a way. Or didn't say.
Or didn't say.
I mean, what
else can I say?
Of course I condemn a terrorist attack.
I condemn wanton violence.
I recognize that
the attack itself
exists in a much greater continuum
than I am well-versed in.
So I understand that there's
like a greater context happening than
just the isolated moment.
But I've, yeah, like, do I wish it was everything that day had been different
and a bunch of people didn't die and this whole conflict didn't get, you know,
completely re-galvanized and recalibrated?
Like, yeah, I do, I would love to live on that timeline.
I absolutely am not pleased with that.
It just seems like the way you talk about everything else.
Yes.
That.
As I would be, I would be for this.
Yeah, I would be the kind of guy who would be like, go.
It is, it would be lost in the...
Massacre whoever you want to for, for what.
Whatever purpose, really.
That was the problem, John, is it seemed confusing to me because I was like, wow.
Sorry, guy.
I didn't mean to give you the impression that I loved to do it.
No, I, like, I don't know.
I still just want to know what the sentence I said was.
Did I say we're very palestine?
Yeah, I agree with want to be in the chat.
Yeah, like, everything is John's fault.
Why hasn't you condemned every single bad thing that has ever happened?
In public, yeah, I need to be on Twitter always
because I am not the expert to be hearing.
Nobody needs my thoughts on this
because I am just forming them.
The easiest way for me to say it is like
if you don't, it's one thing to
condemning the acts of government
is one thing and then, or like,
condemning the acts of government is one thing, but then to take it out
on people, just people
in general, the innocent people,
whether you're Israeli or Palestinian,
is the thing that we can confidently state
that we do not support that side of it at all.
Like we can go into a whole debate forever,
which we're not going to do, refuse to.
You know, right now you can say whatever you want in the chat.
We're not going to.
It is the idea that, like, people who are suffering
for things that they should not be suffering for.
Yeah.
Just like people,
living their fucking lives.
And people who are embroiled in a conflict
that not everybody is on board for.
The most challenging aspect of this
has been learning how to hold two ideas in mind
that wanton violence and loss of life is bad,
but also people who feel intensely oppressed
will go to extreme measures to break that cycle of oppression
and it usually takes really harsh action to do that.
And I don't know what to do with that morally.
This whole situation has sort of forced us to say,
sit here and kind of hold two ideas that really conflict in mind and sort of try and come up with an answer that people haven't been able to for so much time now.
Like, I just don't understand how, I feel like this food is a really deep montage, so fuck it.
Like, I'll be, I'll be so much of the, like, I'm always asking questions.
I'm always trying to have conversations, so I can just keep learning, keep learning, keep learning.
You know, and I try to get both sides.
I really do.
People who are willing to just actually have a conversation
or me to kind of push back on something
when I question something.
That's just not going to happen here on the stream.
It won't.
It's not going to happen here.
We can solve this today.
It's not going to happen with someone's typing something to me.
No.
And I just want
when I see stuff
of like all these children
in like Gaza especially.
You know, as of late, of when you're watching, like, these raw fucking videos of what's happening to children out there, I'm like, I have the hardest time, not one part of me can get on board with, like, you just, you just watch you're like, there's got to be another way.
There's got to be a way it's not this.
There's got to be another way.
Like, so much of Gaza is made up of children.
And when you see what's happening to them, it does feel like the sentiments that Melissa is expressing.
We're just like, God, these people are, they are suffering at the, I'm not going to deep dive into it.
I'm just saying that right now, like, you can't, I'm not, I don't, if you just take time, like 15, 20 minutes, you watching videos of what's happening to them, like the actual raw videos, whatever ounce of uncomfortability you feel will not equal an atom of discomfort that they are.
feeling over there. It is
truly horrendous what is happening to
them. I saw somebody the other day put it as
like your discomfort is
their entire reality right now.
Every waking moment.
Yeah. You know? Yeah.
And I get people like
I like get asked Chris Wammoth.
You know like I try to find
like it's so hard to find
so yeah. What happened
October 7th? Terrible what like I don't
agree with like a fucking killing innocent
Jews like I don't. You should be
Jewish people should be getting
fucking killed for it
I think you can
you can kind of arrive at this like
I am pro
you know the real
like the regular people
the real people just trying to live life
the Jews
the Arabs you know the
Palestinians the Israelis who are just
trying to live life and have a place to be safe
they should both have that but I'm also
you can do that and also kind of be like
the IDF and Hamas are both
problematic
to put it
so very lightly
Like, yeah, neither of these groups of people
It's the sad thing
If you have these two warring governing factions
That are so different from the people that they should be
And kind of are fighting for
But I think that it's kind of even beyond that
And now, you know, we're getting into territory
That I don't feel really comfortable commenting
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's like to say that like, yeah, of course we want people
of Palestine to be free
but we condemn the actions from us,
and then some people will like pokeholes
and some things of us saying that, right?
And I'm like, of course I want,
why would I not want people to have their freedom?
Well, yeah, and of all the arguments out there to have this is.
I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. I'm not.
I'm not going to say, I'm sorry.
I'm not saying that, like, it is.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
And, yeah, it's complex.
It's ever changing.
We're in the thick of it right now.
And it's one of those things that is not,
there's not as,
easily defined, you know, again,
when it comes to, like, sexual misconduct
or racism or sexism in the
public sphere, there are
more strong
identifiers to, you can
find the right opinion to have,
I feel like, for the most part, whereas with this
situation, it's almost impossible to
come to, arrive in an
opinion or a take or an assessment
that everyone will agree, like,
no matter where you land, there's going to be
a bunch of people who vehemently disagree
with you, no matter how, you know,
based your take might be.
A thousand percent.
Yeah. And that's the hard
part of this and it's the hard part of seeing
decisions like this with Melissa
Barrera because we're like
this is super fresh
and is ongoing and it's only
re-ignited
something that has been going on for decades
and beyond that.
I just feel like she was so fucking
clear though. She was clear
and she was careful to be compassionate
condemning the actions of the
fucking of the government
and stuff that she disagrees with,
but not condemning people.
She's not condemning Jewish people.
She's not condemning, you know.
And she takes great time to separate.
She's explicit about that shit.
The IDF is not all Jewish people,
and Hamas is not all Palestinian people,
and a lot of Palestinians don't love Hamas,
and a lot of Jewish Israelis don't love Netanyahu.
They don't like, they want Palestinian freedom, too.
Like, yeah, you can hold a bunch of ideas in mind at once.
And I, and I, yeah.
And I don't know.
Like the category they lumped her into is just like, wow, what a bunch of bullshit.
Yeah.
And I'm not, I'm never the kind of guy to be like, I.
Okay, never mind.
I want to move on.
I do.
I didn't want to move on.
No, let's talk more about it.
I want to move on.
I do.
I want to move on.
All right.
So.
So about fucking Nicholas Holt.
He's great.
Yeah, Jay.
He's great.
Let's talk about inconsequential stuff by comparison.
too great
but I was rooting
for Alexander Scarsgaard
as Lex
yes
I
copper come here buddy
I'm sorry
I know we were getting agitated
Capito
I like to think that my cat
comes here when he sees
I'm agitated but then I look at the time
and I go he just wants food
no
he knows you're agitated
come here copper
I think Nick
the whole is great and he'll do great
I mean, I think, again, Alexander Scarsguard is kind of a really obvious pick,
and I want to be pushing against the grain of things.
Sometimes an obvious pick is like, my favorite kind of obvious picks are like, oh, yeah, why don't I think of that?
Yeah.
You know?
That guy would be perfect.
Like Jeffrey Wright as Commissioner Gordon.
Yeah.
You're just like.
I weren't thought of that, but that's great.
yeah yeah yeah that that's perfect you know like I don't know why that seems so obvious
but yes it works mm-hmm you know like that's a that's a perfect one Gia
I don't know I'm Alexander Scarsgar for Lex I think Nicholas then again I would
have been fine with Brian Cranston honestly that was the one where I that was the one of the
ones where I was less enchanted where I was like I I know he can do this
you know, it would be fun,
but I wouldn't be, like, dazzled
at the thought of it.
Yeah.
But, you know, I think Nicholas Holt
matches the age.
Like, I don't, without knowing
the actual ages of Alexander Scarsgaard
and Nicholas Holt, I just feel like he fits the
youthful cast to me of
what James Gunn seems to be putting together
a bit better. But that's just
me. That's me too.
Sabra in
Captain America 4.
is not the hummus that you buy.
Nope.
But doesn't she have,
she has Israeli flag and stuff?
Hell yeah.
Interesting.
Hell yeah.
Let's get Roxy Stryor,
Andrew Gordon, or Michael Tesler.
Yes.
Marvel Vow's new approach to the character.
Oh,
golly.
Oh, golly.
Oh, golly.
Oh, no.
I don't know what to make of this.
John, say something that won't get you in trouble.
Oh, sure.
I think this is a great idea.
Whatever they do to retool this character
will be a-okay by everyone.
I didn't know that this character existed until just now.
And, yeah, she's starting to realize the inherent...
Hold on a second.
Marvel's issued a statement on them?
This is actually...
Oh, my God, this is a real...
She's really in this.
Oh, my.
An Israeli superhero.
What's the statement?
While our characters and stories are inspired by the comics,
there will always be freshly imagined for the screen in today's audience,
and the filmmakers are taking a new approach with the character Sabra,
who was first introduced in the comics over 40 years ago.
Oh, my.
See, when did they announce?
We don't know anything about our backstory and stuff.
We're all in our scenes, it's like the image of being a proud Israeli,
so I don't really know exactly what the, you know, what, what,
What that'll...
What that turns into, plot-wise.
I don't know anything about our character.
It mostly makes me wonder...
I can't remember when they pushed the movie,
and now I want to know.
Because now I'm like, are they...
Now.
Did they push the movie...
They went now?
Because of the conflict that is...
Sabre's going to be like Ziva and NTIAS
working for the USA, but it's Jewish.
Ziva, shouts out.
Cote de Pablo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It'll be interesting.
I mean, part of me just wonders
if this...
It seems like any time Marvel tries to do anything.
think vaguely sociopolitical
post is Winter Soldier
like the stuff in the world
gets too real and they have to retool
it all so I'm like did this happen here
it certainly must
be now
all right right John
John we're back at it Joshua A accountability
God damn it John what did you say earlier
in this chat to upset our Joshua
guy so that he would
have to get in here and then even
super chat to get your attention
I mean, you're not wrong
Using citizens as human shields
is deplorable and is like a totally
twisted way to advance your cause
Absolutely. No one's debating that.
No one's debating it. I think we
answered it extensively. I think we would all
rather be in the cold version of this war certainly
Or not in this conflict at all
But like stuff a job. I've had a shitty last
two months after losing my job and a girl that I thought loved me.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I've been there, man.
I've been there.
Send in love for you.
We'll each give you a hug.
We'll hug the camera and you can transfer that onto you.
We do need a coy.
We need it a coy.
No, man.
Fucking dealing with, um...
Coy can't handle this topic.
I mean, yeah.
It's not like, it's not like any of the three of us are really an authority.
on this topic.
We're all learning day by day by piece by piece.
Your videos got me through it all since I got a new job.
I want to share some love.
You're my Matthew Perry.
Oh, that comment.
Fuck, it is going to make me cry.
Don't say that.
Damn.
Dude.
Oh, no, I'm getting a watery.
I do you sound a bitch.
Could you be.
You fucking asshole.
Could you be any more of a shining light in my life?
Oh, that's really touching.
Yeah.
That is a comment I did not expect it here.
I like it.
I love it.
Thank you.
Fuck that girl, man.
Over that girl.
What was the score, man.
She doesn't know what she's missing.
She busted, bro.
And that job?
You don't need that job.
She's frigging ugly, man.
God.
If ever there was a set of sentiments that whenever it's given me, I'm always like, thank you for the intent.
But also, I don't need these sentiments.
I didn't even like her, man.
No one liked her.
Like, no, this isn't.
helping. This is just making everything
weirder and worse. And now I'm not going to trust you the next
relationship if I get into it. Yeah. Oh, my God.
That's really sweet. Thank you. Well, I'm sorry you're going
through some pain right now, but that pain allowed you to make me feel
really good. So the more pain you feel, the better I feel.
That's a, I am a sadist like that. I'm a masochist.
But no, I mean, I like hurting myself.
Yes.
What's the word?
The sadist would mean I like to derive pleasure from you.
pain. Yeah, you enjoy that shot
and Freuda. Yeah.
So, Kevin Meek, man,
very generous fucking super chat. We haven't
even got her to do the massive, massive, massive
one. This is a really big one. Thank you, my friend. Thank you.
Oh, shit. This has been a very fascinating
stream. Sure enough. John and I
thought we'd be a hit and quit it today. Yeah, we thought this would be
slow and fellow. But no,
we come for the real shit. No, man.
Thank you. Thank you.
That is very, very kind.
Oh, shit, never catch you all live.
Just want to say thanks.
I'll help more than you can know.
Appreciate you guys.
Thank you, Kevin Meek.
Thank you.
Yeah, we appreciate you.
I never know what to come in here.
You'd be holding it down.
Such a generous fucking, like, super chat comes in.
Do it dance.
And then, you know, and they don't give us something to answer.
And I'm like, flex your biceps.
What do I say that is so different to stand out to show my appreciation for such a generous super chat?
Do like a peck dance.
John is definitely the Ross.
Sure.
A thousand percent.
Isn't no friends well enough to know,
but you're definitely the Davish one.
I can see it.
No, I mean, if I'm not Chandler and I, I mean,
Joey's funny, but I don't want to be Joey.
No one wants to be Joey.
Yeah, you don't want to know Joey.
You want to be Joey.
So, oh, but no, but Stephen disagrees.
I guess I am at a little bit.
Jeffrey would say John is Joey.
That's good.
I guess, I guess on Canada.
I guess on camera, I am Joey.
This is smart as fucking Joey I've ever heard of him.
Yes.
Smart at some things and dumb at other things.
That is a very, very kind super chat.
Thank you.
Thank you, Kevin.
We love you.
We love seeing your name pop up.
Robo 96.
Have you guys seen socks?
John, I'm sorry.
Do you want a piece of cheese?
Sure.
I'm going to get a string cheese.
You answer this question.
You go get a piece of cheese.
I'll keep it short.
Yes, Greg has not seen it, be respectful.
And I mean that because I was truly, truly, truly, truly bummed that we didn't all get to watch.
I wanted to share that experience with, like me and Greg share a love of Saw that, you know, I think a lot of people, I was a barista, in fact, I think a lot of people, you know, don't love Jigsaw in his various teachings as much as Greg and I do.
So, yes.
I really, really, really liked Saw 10, Saw X.
I was very, as a Saw fan, I was pleased.
My heart felt full.
It felt very special and like a very lovely culmination.
And I feel like, you know, if you wanted to end it now, you know, you don't have to,
but you could and I would be, like, content.
Yeah, I really liked what they did with it.
I really liked how they conceived it.
And just, yeah, like the pitch, the tone, all that stuff.
good ensemble
you know it's probably
like the best made film of all the saws
so very much
part of me is like bring on more
but part of me is also like
we're good
all right I'm holding the bread
I'm holding the bread I'm holding the bread
I'm holding the bread
doing this is one of my
random rush snacks
oh I get you
I get you what you're going to do
crunch cheese and tube
you're making like a poor man's cheese
teatio right now it's keto bread
So it's only like 30 calories, no sugar added, low carbs.
She's to keto.
So here you go, that one.
Thanks.
I'll have a few.
Hey, you know, we live in America where the ugly food gets discarded, but I'll eat it.
Yeah, no.
It's just as good.
It's just as good.
Another keto bread's great.
Hey, Connie.
Happy Thanksgiving, Connie.
Hostel is not better than slot.
Well, maybe like, no.
What are we on?
We're on Seon.
do you guys have any concerns
for Superman legacy
with the amount of characters
that would be announced
this doesn't really feel like
a Superman movie or more
that's really what it's up
love that
sorry somehow my mouth
got fuller as that went on
do you guys have any concerns for Superman legacy
with the amount of characters being announced
it doesn't really feel like a Superman movie anymore
maybe it's too early to tell
love y'all
I think for the average audience it might
feel that way
but I mean you've read pound for pound more comics than I have
having seen all these DC animated movies
I don't know I just feel like it's normal in comics
to have a like broadly populated world
where you have a lot of superheroes who already exist
you have a lot of powered people who already exist
new fetish unlocked I like it
yeah I think it's a lot more commonplace in the actual medium
that these are all coming out of to have like a whole bunch of people
and other characters like
that is my Rocky impersonation.
I can't do it without this specific snack.
But I also understand your concern
at the same time. Like it is a first
in a rebooted franchise and all that
stuff. But I think that'll partly
serve as a primer for people
to understand that this will be a much more
broadly populated world and a lot less
of just like, oh, whoever's the name of the
movies, like one of
either the only powered or one
of like a couple powered people in this movie.
You know what I mean?
let me uh
we on it great
in case to tell you something about James Gunn
this is a muck bang now
not many people know how to deliver
a debut ensemble
the way James Gunn knows how to do
here and we've seen him do it
where it's like oh shit we got to make
like 14 superheroes
front and center in one movie
I don't know if it'll work
oh shit he pulled it off yeah
we're just talking about like
fucking you know a villain a hair
a Lois
Like these aren't
Most of them
We know we just need one of them
To be front and center
Which is Superman
And the rest of the supporting characters
It's not a big deal
Yeah, yeah, yeah
It's not
I don't think it's a lot
He's just building the world of it
Matt Colton's is mainly to introduce
The Authority which I could see
But yeah I mean a lot of the casting are characters
too who are just like normal people character
But you know
Rando Mano, thank you
Jack Quaid is an
Hocker position, support his Israeli friend, Tomar Capone, Frenchi, or his co-star, Melissa
Brer.
I mean, you could support your friends.
I mean, I haven't, I'd be curious, I know Tomar Capone has been pretty vocal.
I don't know, actually, what the tone is of what he's been saying.
I do I think Jack Quaid should just be as compassionate as possible toward, I mean, like,
that's a real thing.
You're going to have two people with different ties, and I mean, especially Tomar Capone being
from Israel, you know, you're going to.
have people with different ties, and I certainly
hope that this doesn't mean the end of friendships.
It may for some people, and that's part of the
tricky part of all this, you know?
I've seen it happen.
Yeah.
I mean, we know some Jewish
people. I've seen it happen.
Yeah. So,
I don't know, just do your best to listen.
But if you were able to have a conversation
and know what lines you can have about
where you can disagree, and if it's okay that you
disagree on this thing,
about certain things, then you're fine.
But some people are just like,
nope, all or nothing.
Chiquita back in the chat.
Gia.
Three years she's been here.
Three years of the chat.
You think I forgot about that?
It was like an hour and a half ago.
I didn't forget about that.
It's okay.
It's okay.
This one's all about how great you are.
My God, it's always sending Philadelphia
of the old-fashioned way.
I paid them money.
I begged.
and cried, and eventually they said,
if you've got the bill.
Give you $2,000 to put me on.
I'll give you more than I would have gotten paid.
You think we Marvel fans have unrealistic expectations
of them to continue to create lightning in a bottle
like they did with Iron Man in phase one.
How did they tell stories moving forward?
I don't, I feel like the expectations are not as high
as they want to work.
Yeah, that's weird.
The comment that I don't like, a common comment that I really don't like,
and maybe there are the people out there who do need to hear it is,
not everything needs to be endgame.
I don't ask for that ever.
Like, I never ask for that.
And I've had that dish my way many times.
I would love a standalone that doesn't need to be all of the stakes.
poor favor please i mean i understand endgame is a culmination thing of like a billion movies and of course
not everything needs to be endgame uh and nor does it need to be the quality or the hype level
of endgame and in retrospect you know i i i don't know what my favorite mccu movie is anymore
i really don't like i went back and i randomly rewatched infinity war in end game i can't remember
if there was like a purpose to it or i just randomly
put it on and and uh i think it was just like i was i randomly put on infinity war and then i was
like i guess i'm here i was watching and i put on end game after and uh and and i think i
liked infinity war more um how i would summarize my experience of infinity war and end game is
i think infinity war is possibly the best event comic book movie
and I think
Endgame is the best
MCU movie
or the best representation
of MCU.
It's the quintessence
of like what the MCU
rewards, but I don't know if it's my
favorite anymore
as just a movie.
There was a time where I said it.
But then like now the
after some distance
and then watching it on Disney Plus
I'm like,
there's things about the lighting
that really, I feel the flat ways
it's shot.
Sure.
And before I didn't quite feel that or see that.
Well, and I think favorite also implies, like, a rewatchability and, like, an enthusiasm to put this on where, like, I don't, I'm not going to debate the status and the greatness of the things endgame achieves.
But, like, rare is the occasion.
I'm like, I really want to just hang out and watch end game.
Well, you see, Iron Man is still a great movie.
and because it's not doing all the the only thing that people maybe have an issue with to this day in terms of a film is like you kind of get a villain at the end who just becomes you know a bigger iron man but i think everything leading up to that jeff bridges is a pretty impactful performer in that film yeah i like him you know as obadiah stane i think he's a pretty impactful villain yeah he's he showed up while predictable i think everything about it is still
It's well-paced.
It's well-ridden for a film that was surprisingly being ridden kind of on the fly.
It's well-written.
The acting is wonderful.
It feels like composed and potentially shot.
Where now it just kind of feel like we're putting things in a factory in an algorithm.
That common thing you hear people saying feel like an AI made.
This is because things are starting to feel a little bit of like algorithmically made even if it's fun.
Well, it feels too big now to take its time ever.
It's like the thing is.
is now it feels like fast food, whereas before it kind of felt like a restaurant where you paid
for a good meal. And now it's like you can get a burger at like a fancy restaurant or you can go to
McDonald's. And now it's not quite McDonald's, but it's. It's the rebranding when all the fast food
joins like McDonald's or Burger King or whoever else rebranded all their menus to be like, look at
our artisanally sourced lettuce and tomatoes and shit. When you're like, this is I'm still at McDonald's.
Yeah, yes, that's a great way for it.
I don't think they're unrealistic expectations.
I mean, for some people, yes, but I don't think they're unrealistic expectations.
Like, yeah, it's hard to catch lightning in a bottle,
but I don't think a lot of the problems are about that so much.
I think you could still get very good material instead of mediocre material
without having to catch lightning in a bottle necessarily.
I think it is, to me, the biggest culprit is the modularity,
is just that they plan so far in advance now.
and they make everything to be remade and retooled
that you just cannot put a certain level of distinct personality
into any of these scripts.
Otherwise, it's going to become a problem.
I was actually listening to,
I watched a film theory's latest video,
which we had a little cameo in, apparently.
I didn't know this.
It was a fun moment.
No one told me.
The film theory.
And I think their latest video really breaks down
the problem best, better than we could say.
If you guys haven't seen it, even if you've really enjoyed the MCU,
I think that one really breaks it down in a very efficient way while being incredibly informative.
Jahasa Para, how does Superman, thank you so much, my friend,
how does Superman avoid the too powerful argument?
You give him a more powerful villain.
Captain Marvel gets killed for having no real stakes leader to boredom
when Superman is just as powerful, if not more.
Is it just nostalgia?
No, I mean...
It's the human life he's trying to balance against all this.
Yeah, it's the...
It's the power...
No, please.
I think you should go.
It's the power.
It's the illustration of choice that I think makes it challenging.
I mean, if you look at the first Superman with the whole fucking, you know,
turning back the clock on Earth, it was like, where do I go save?
Like, how do I?
save Lois. There's that.
There's also
the, yeah, you can't give him a more powerful villain
or an equally powerful one. You give him a Zod.
You can give a radiac.
I think Lex is a compelling
one because you are dealing
with the most powerful being
versing a very superiorly
intelligent person.
But you see, Captain Marvel
doesn't have a kryptonite.
That's like a saying, right?
what's the kryptonite?
That's a saying.
But for Superman,
that's his actual physical enemy.
That gave us the term.
Yeah,
that gave us a term.
And I think that's the other thing is like,
well,
that's also one of the balances.
It's like,
we know what it's weakness is.
That motherfuckerfugers got kryptonite.
Yeah.
I mean, as I've learned from,
you know,
various,
you know,
through the anime and stuff especially,
and I think my adventures
of Superman was a great illustration
of this as well.
And, you know, I think Coy, I've certainly heard Coy say this a billion times.
The struggle of Superman is you can't save everybody, you can't be everywhere at once, no matter how powered you are.
And, yeah, I think those are enough stakes, you know, and larger than that, how do you remain the good-hearted person that Clark is in a world that is as harsh and brutal as this one is as well?
And I think James Gunn is probably in a good position to give us that wholesomeness
and then clash it with the rude awakening of actual, you know, malice and atrocity and blah, blah.
True. Very true.
So, yeah. It doesn't have to be all saving cats from trees, you know.
Marvin Martin.
Good name.
Marvin Martin, the Martian.
Oh, literation.
Do you think there's a house of cards thing behind the scenes to screw up Hollywood, Twitter, etc.,
for some hidden ulterior agenda?
I hope so now
I like this conspiracy
I don't
I don't think that Twitter and Hollywood
are like somehow
Hollywood hates Twitter
Twitter is its own
you know
cesspool septic tank now
and you know
it's it's clearly an autonomous
entity that's imploding and
exploding so I don't know
I mean Hollywood
is a trickier house of cards
It's a funny thing with social media and Hollywood because social media, YouTube, being part of that, has changed the game of marketing forever, you know, for Hollywood.
And, like, where they use trailers, they use influencers, they're getting actors on fucking social media platforms to promote their shit, creating, I don't know, weird adventure games to fucking go along with people.
Yep.
You know, like, they do a bunch of crazy stuff.
It forever changed marketing.
And, yeah, those kinds of things used to be novel, and now they're, like, the norm.
Oh, yeah, man, remember there's a time where you'd be like, I go there early to catch this trailer.
Yeah, I want to see the trailers.
Oh, my God.
Now I go to the theaters, and everyone's fucking showing up when the movies, like, already started.
People can time it so, like, I want to arrive just when the AMC or whatever movie theater I'm in bumper ends, movies begin.
Because everyone's already seen the trailers.
Excluding if they got word that no one's debuting this trailer that hasn't been out yet, you know?
And he's not going to put it online.
Yeah, yeah.
So there was a time where even that was special.
But now it's like, you get like 14 trailers and there are, you get like, look at the marvels.
Look at any Marvel movie.
You get like three main trailers.
You get like a bunch of TV spots.
And where do you watch them all?
You watch them all on the internet.
Yeah.
You know, you rarely see them in the theaters now.
And if you do, it's because you got to the theater early.
Yeah, totally.
Because before you had to, like, reserve seating was in the thing.
It was, that was, like, it became a rare thing for theaters.
And now there's this, you know, like, they, yeah, they need, it is a weird thing.
But at the same time, social media is every, it's the Hollywood's biggest threat.
It is.
And, I mean, it really must hamper, like, all these movies and things take so long to make.
And it must hamper a lot of that long-term planning because you have things.
always being crunched and people
are digging now more than ever to find
what you're doing and have opinions about it.
Yeah, and then you have actors who
now can give their opinion, you know, like
before.
I think there's less constraints in place
to keep all these things from
overflowing, whereas now everything's kind of
been re-democratized. It is interesting
looking at the Melissa Barrera. I do
appreciate how she is the main theme of this.
Because
my
one of my dad's best friend
a family friend of ours
as a man you guys might not know his name anymore
some of you guys might recognize his name Ed Asner
Ed Asner
you guys might best know him
as either Santa from Elf
or Carl
from up or you saw him recently on Cobra Kai
or yeah he was Johnny Lawrence's dad
in Cobre Cye prior to this
he is
one of the actors with one of
some of the most he might be like he might be top actually most golden globes ever for male actor
um so yeah he's he's prestige actor and a lot of his career was immensely damaged
severely damaged because and i've never i had never talked to ed azner directly about this
but it's just a it's a known fact about what happened with his career he was an active
And as much as he played like these cantankers people, he's like grumpy, crinky, tough as nails, mother effers.
He's, he had a mass, even in person, like he's just like that blunt human being, you know?
Like I get intimidated being around him, even though I was like around him so much.
But he is an activist.
For all the things, he's a liberal activist.
And that was not fucking popular.
when he was famous.
He really wasn't.
And it completely
damaged the man's career
for such an extended period of time.
It made it really difficult for him to get work,
got fired, his Lou Grand Show,
which he won Golden Gloves for, got canned.
It's the whole thing.
And at the end of the day,
when you look back and he'd be like,
oh, he was on the right side of history.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
But at the time,
wasn't exactly popular opinion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, and those tides are always moving and shifting.
Yeah.
In terms of, yeah, what is acceptable dissent, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally.
Oh, I didn't know that about it, doesn't.
It's inspiring.
Yeah.
I mean, really, it really, that's the reason why it,
he didn't maintain the fame that he had, you know.
But he was, he was like a superstar for a while.
Oh, yeah.
He's a, I mean, he's super prolific, even still.
I'm definitely not reading that.
message in Viral Earth, too.
Two things in the chat.
One, yes.
River Rock. It's not a continuity.
AMC. Absolutely cowards for not letting the jigsaw, Billy puppet, Nicole Kidman thing play.
Absolute.
Two, Janine posited that MCU is actually Chipotle chat.
Do you agree?
Jaisalpara.
Blindwave collaboration anytime soon?
We are blind.
I'm the guy from Blindwave.
And I am Eric.
Yeah.
Just look really different under these lights.
I am Eric from Blindwave, and he's that guy.
Yeah, I'm that guy who people are you that guy from Blindwave?
Yes.
That's happened in person.
That happened at, what was that, VidCon?
Yeah, I think so.
Someone came up to you and they're like, it was the funniest thing.
Guy was full of shit.
I'm just got to call it out.
The guy went out to me, he was like, real reject.
Like, to me, he went, real rejects.
I'm such a big fan.
And then he turned to you.
And he said,
blind wave right you're not a you're not a real
you must not be that big a man you can't know
you're not no john only watched straight to the point
and made sure to be exposed to nothing else
yeah that's why that's the joke with john of going
hey the blind wave cut yep yep yep jerry
Shane yeah dead shot will you guys do a separate reaction
for saw then i mean john already joined terror and erin for it
so yeah but I appreciate the inquiry though
you can do your own solo reaction and we'll just stitch it into
we'll superimpose it over our reaction
Omar Elcott
Omar
I wish my first super chat was about something else
Oh no
Amy Schumer posted a pitcher calling
Gosen uh that's a kind of want to say that word on
streams calling Gosson
our word while Melissa is the one that got fired
without saying anything anti-Semitic big fan
of you guys I mean yes that is that is um one of the unfair assessments and uh the culture of all this
yeah yeah yeah that is i didn't really say that i actually didn't know that she must have because
i've throughout this and i haven't dug really deep on it but i've heard amy schumer's name come up a lot
and usually not
yeah let me say
let me see what she said
oh my oh my
what are we got what are we got
our Instagram posts received more than 87,000
likes
since deleted comic on Instagram
attended to satirized comments made by
America
Oh damn that is some horrible
shit to say
Wowie
Oh man
Oh, and she wasn't like, like being ironic or some ill-attempted humor.
I mean, she wasn't canned for that shit?
I mean, I guess what does she have to be canned from at the moment?
Oh, she actually did.
That is worse than what you put in the super chat.
Yeah.
That's not, that's not good.
Everyone's bringing up Noah Schnapp this whole time.
Yeah, which Noah Schnapp, part of me is like, I don't know, you're a young kid.
You're still kind of a kid, so, like, not good, but also, like, I imagine you may have some learning coming your way,
where it's like, Amy Schumer's in a very different position and at least doesn't have as good of an excuse to be ill-informed.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
Well, I won't be watching that Judapito movie she did now.
Michelle, of course, this is still going.
We haven't finished the super shit
No, at least we got to get to the end.
Enviro, put down your, what did
you, what do we miss from Enviro?
I don't know what we missed. We're probably
on a tangent about something.
We're probably just got to get there. We're probably
just got to get there soon.
But I appreciate your first super chap being that.
Yeah.
Olivia, I love your thumbnail.
John.
John, fuck's sake, John.
Fiff Fis.
Mal Gibson's still working.
Oh, did you see you at the Continental?
He's great.
I haven't seen the content.
When I went to see the creator,
all that I heard from the other critics
was them talking about how bad the Continental was.
Before and after the creator,
they just got back together
to keep talking about how bad the Continental was.
So I, yeah.
But you know, Mel Gibson also.
I mean, people really came out.
I mean, Mel Gibson,
I don't, I don't,
Mel Gibson.
What are his thoughts on the continent?
Didn't have, um, he wasn't, uh, did he have like something in the works and then it got canned?
Maybe.
He's been at the hardest time.
He'll leave the weapon five off the ground.
I mean, let's face.
I wonder why.
I mean, look, we all know his career was damaged and he had to have, and he did have had a comeback directing wise with Hacksaw Ridge.
You were still able to work because people still backed him as like, hey, man, you know, he was just drunk.
Sets of shit.
Fucking A.
Mm.
Oh, Gal Godot's situation.
But there's too many people here to come on the channel.
Don't let me watch Mel Gibson movies now.
Yeah, ruining my fun.
I'll never see the lethal weapon franchise now.
I wanted to react to Continental.
But there's people.
I'm just sure.
I actually did you want to react to it?
I heard all that chat.
I was like, this doesn't sound that interesting to me.
I did hear of lethal weapon five still in the works.
I like the lethal weapon.
the webbing movies.
I think they are really missing the point of John Wick
by trying these random spin-offs.
I really don't think it's a good idea.
It wasn't really the world.
I don't think people.
Nobody cares that much about the Continental
without a couple key actors.
Corey Handler, hi, guys.
Greenwich from New Orleans.
Just want to thank you for all the great content.
Love the channel.
Say hi to Coy.
You could say how to Coy yourself.
Coy is always on social media
and he would love to reply to you.
Just say something really offensive
and he will undoubtedly.
You'll doubt about it.
Favorite Scareer movie is actually the first screen movie.
That's why this one really hits hard for me.
PLD! It's PLD!
PLD!
Big help on her.
Big help, PLD.
Is this the same PLD?
Yeah, I think so.
Unless, you know, I mean...
Good to see you, boys.
That's not what your face looks like in your avatar, but, you know.
Sykes for Doctor Who.
Rank the new Doctor Who Doctors.
My favorite is Capaldi.
All right, easily.
Matt Smith, Tennant.
I got to say Eccleson is like at the bottom for me.
I'd actually put Whitaker above Eccleson.
This is so hard.
I don't want to write them.
Really?
Oh my God.
It's so easy for me.
It's Matt Smith, Tenet, Capaldi, Whitaker, and then Tenet.
Tenet's at the bottom for me.
Really?
He might be in the middle for me.
I know he's the quintessential for so many people.
Part of me feels...
I thought he was creepy unintentionally.
Okay.
I mean, sure.
I did not.
I mean, I, like, I got invested in Dr. Ruby because of him.
I grew to really like him, but there was something that felt off-putting about him at first that I did not find particularly charming.
Yeah.
I can, I can see why.
I thought it was creepy.
Sure.
I don't necessarily share that, but I understand where you would, yeah, why.
I get it, yeah.
I had such a hard time moving past Eccleston because I really like Eccleston.
It's hard.
I think for me,
Capaldi and Matt Smith
would grapple at the top
because I really like those two portrayals.
Yeah.
Tenant, I guess I would put in the middle
and then Whitaker and Krasheklesden
can kind of battle at the bottom.
I don't know.
I mean, I like them all so much
for different reasons and it's hard to rank them
because they all are their own take,
but they're all also kind of familial to each other.
So that's my tenet of.
vague half-ranking, I guess.
Like, there's, it's
been hard to be like, oh, this one's night and day
like my favorite. But yeah, I mean, Matt Smith
just had such a gripping, he felt the most
sort of like a man out of time
and had this sort of bubbly,
like youthful, but also
old soul energy. And then Capaldi, I just thought
complimented that so well in tandem
as the sort of
yeah, like older,
more, you know,
haggard version, but who's trying to
stay connected to that, you know, humanity.
I don't know. Yeah, it's real hard.
You see, okay, you know what it was about Eccleston?
When he was being, like, fun and charming,
he just creep me out. When he was being, like, dramatic and serious,
I really, I really, wait, wait, are you talking about Echolk, you mean Echleston?
What do you mean? Not Tenet. We're not talking about Tenon.
Oh, God, no, yeah.
Okay, I thought Eccleston. I really like.
No, Ten is usually my second favorite.
Wait a minute. You said he was creepy,
And you put it at the bottom.
No, I said Eccleston.
Okay, I think I got confused.
I thought you meant Tenet is your favorite.
No, no, no.
No, I go Smith, Tenet.
Okay.
Capaldi, Whitaker, Eccleston.
That's a pretty solid ranking.
Yeah, no.
Tenant's my second favorite.
Okay.
I'm going to be fucking excited about this.
If he was my least favorite.
Okay.
I was real confused.
I was like, interesting.
You think this guy's creepy.
I mean, I guess I could see.
I mean, yeah.
Like Christopher Eccleston is the most, I don't know.
Like there's, yeah, he has, he kind of falls into a center point for me between like a Capaldi and a tenant or Smith in the sense of, I thought Christopher Eccleson's light side was a nice compliment to the dark.
Did I say tenant?
I must have fucked up saying, my bad.
Yeah, it's all right.
I thought, I really like the joyous side of Eccleston.
But as much as I do love his portrayal, I guess I kind of have to put it.
lower.
Okay, dude, my bad.
Yeah, I was like, damn, the,
I can understand not putting him at number one,
but, like, least tenant, like, shit.
Oh, no, no, no, no, my bad, so I
botched that. I really thought I said it right.
Whereas Eccleston lands.
My memory, I'm like, did I really say that?
It's like, I think we would rank him for different reasons.
It's like, I think Eccleston will ultimately,
as much as I do have an attachment to that performance,
he would rank lower just because everything else that comes after
is very much more fully formed.
I don't think Olivia likes Matt Smith.
I know.
She thinks he looks like a big toe.
I remember her repeating that.
He does.
He kind of looks a little bit like those Mario blockheads.
He's got a strange.
He's got a weird looking at me.
I love him.
Yeah.
Tenant and Eccleston can battle at the top.
I mean, blah.
Smith and Capaldi and then Tenant and Capaldi can grapple for two or three.
Whittaker and whoever can grapple for...
They're all grappling.
I forgot my thing.
There's a thing thing.
Was it Dr. Rieckh?
Yeah.
Matt Smith, we were talking about his toe face.
Hey, that looks like a toe right there.
Thumb.
Thumb.
Okay.
Yeah, because, I mean, no one said it.
like oh you think eglson's creepy what about kapalde i'm like well kapaldi's supposed to be creepy
yeah like capaldi's supposed to be like off-putting like old stressed out i just don't want to
say cantanker's again but oh but he's supposed to be like a little creepy that's kind of the
intention he's supposed to be a little intense and a little almost scary yeah yeah that's the
purpose of him yeah um he's not my favorite but i thought he was
very effective and really endeared to him yeah yeah uh yeah heckleston just didn't and i think
olivia's favorite is actually heckleston i like him a lot yeah i do honestly i'm just i mean john
hurt i don't know he's barely in it man i don't really ever count know who the i asterisk that
i'm not like oh that that special is i love him this this would be the first time we're
going to talk about doctor who on youtube on actual youtube and it's kind of weird to be like oh shit
we're going to really, like, actually talk about it.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that.
No one's going to let you lift this down.
I really thought I really thought I said Eccles.
I would never put Tenet at the, I just wouldn't.
I was surprised.
Yeah.
I was surprised.
Did you see my reaction when I was talking about, I was like, what do you mean?
Like, no, why would I say?
And in that moment, I was like, okay, so there must have been a disconnector.
Yeah, I think I just said that, yeah, but in my head, I was for sure.
Because I can very much see how Eccleston would come across a bit creepy.
Yeah.
In the way that maybe is not.
not on putting the opposite of off-putting.
I mean, Ted, it's a little creepy.
Well, and in that sense,
I don't disagree that, like, if you thought that,
I could kind of see it, but it makes more sense
and he's more fully fleshed into the role as...
I think I saw Kilgrave before I ever saw him as Doctor Who.
And I had a little bit of...
I have to get past that a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
You know, so I sort of just associated him as a bad guy.
And then Harry Potter, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, barely remember Harry Potter.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, yeah.
He does the tongue thing alone.
No, I got, sorry, I did not mean I could, I could go into more depth for you if you want me to prove this.
But no, I'm not, I'm not, I think I even said a sentence to support.
I think I even said like, I was the one to introduce, I think I even said something like that, he was the one to introduce me.
Yeah.
Borer Gover, oh, fuck, I do not like, like, okay, I do not like that.
I hope, God, this.
I think the Cybermen are the worst
You love Cybermen
I cannot
They're in like
The Daleks you hate
It's shut
No the Daleks
Oh man
I'm ready to
I fly to the moon
Every time
The Dalek show up on screen
Fuck I love the Daleks
I even like the Dalek episodes
That people don't generally like
About the Daleks
You know like when they do like
Every gonna do the
Like I'm the on the freaking Whitaker one
When they had like that one Dalek
Oh great
I love I love the Daleks
But the Cybermen
more often than not
are super fucking boring.
I'm just saying they are super boring.
You kind of know what to expect a lot of the time.
I liked the one guy in the Jody Whitaker ones.
I think they could have done more with that,
but the one who's like half his humanity is like coming back
and he's got the warped, broken helmet.
That was pretty cool.
Oh, the one that had like the riff on Frangestine,
the Mary Shelley Frankenstein.
Yeah, that one was pretty cool.
That guy was pretty cool.
But yeah.
Yeah, like Cybermen, as cool as they look, kind of feel like, you know, like a discount version of Daleks.
It's so boring.
Delete.
Fight the doctor who.
I'll fight the Hoovian's tooth and nail on that.
I'm like, you tell me why they're interesting.
Yeah, let's go.
I got your emails, baby.
They're not even like, they're not even like fun bad.
At least Daleks are like, you can like kind of laugh at them.
Well, they're a person now, the troubling, the difficulty with Cybermen is that the whole point is that they don't have emotions.
So, like, that's, you have to rely on numbers and conniving and blah, blah.
Whereas, like, the Daleks are just, like, fun to be around even though they're evil.
Oh, weeping angels, yes.
Definitely creepy.
They know how to keep them.
They, they, I don't think they've ever botched the weeping angels.
Delete, delete, delete.
Yeah, they haven't really.
I mean, they've done, and they found some pretty interesting.
ways of and those are I mean in the chat conferred those are like creative for the new series right like I feel like those are a pretty iconic you know because Daleks and Cybermen they all come from before and I think they really handled nicely all their weeping angel yeah yeah for sure corporations I do I would like to buy Loki on Blu-Rid would sound fun um you know I won't watch the whole thing back to back um yeah yeah uh you can like we just started from Eccleston they pretty much
you a decent re because the whole point is the whole point is to be like who are you I'm the doctor yeah I think I think common consensus is hey if you're first time or jump in with the new series started Eccleston and then yeah progress because too he's short lived so that gives you a good primer for what the show is you need to know who Rose is and then it gives you a pretty quick regeneration so actually funny enough in the grand scheme it's kind of fortunate that his tenure was short because it gives people an easy entry point
I don't think I could ever go watch those.
I mean, I've seen, like, clips of the old ones,
and I'm like, maybe when I'm retired.
And I just have so much time on my hand.
I got real time for this, yeah.
Damn, what is the Super Chat?
Yeah, the gender of MC, no light.
Let's do this.
Yeah, the gender of Silver Surfer isn't important to say
Miles Morales being half black and Latino.
I just think it's risky for Marble to go with a female version of the silver server because we know how sexy.
I mean, we cannot have nice things and like a female silver surfer will surely melt the brains of many.
You said one out of two and two.
Even if the writing is good, you have some that will hate that silver server, that silver server is female.
For me personally, it's not a deal breaker, but do you think it's a good idea?
I mean, I think you're absolutely right here.
I mean, I can't disagree with you on that in terms of is there going to be a side of the audience that's going to act like they've been the most knowledgeable, biggest silver surfer fans of all time, and that the MCHU is rooting everything.
Of course there's going to be that side, or half of them, they won't even be able to tell you one comic they're from, you know.
It's only going to emboldened in the people who watch the Panderverse special
and think that Cartman's point of view is the point of view of the episode.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The people who were like, oh, no, get a diverse female in there quick.
Like, you know, I'm sure it's not going to help if they do it.
I guess the question is, is like, what is the purpose of the choice to do it?
Because that is true.
I think there's something to reconsider there is, like,
like if we watch it and then let's say they get like a great actress in it
will it feel like oh yeah like honestly when I think ancient one I think Tilda Swinton
you know that's what I think of and I think she did such a memorable job in that role
yeah that she makes an impression and I'm like would changing it to
because some surfers for most part like you know
I wouldn't say he's monotone, but he's a little bit stoic, you know, so I don't really feel like we need.
That's what I'm saying.
Get Rosario-Daston to be the story.
That's what I'm saying doesn't really matter to me, but at the same time, does making it a woman really bring anything different to it or change it or elevate it or will it feel like there's a purpose to making Silver Surfer a woman?
And at the same time, even if there's not a purpose, is it really offending anyone?
Does it matter?
It's weird.
It's like, does there need to be a purpose?
But I guess for the people who get up in arms, that reads as disregard.
If they want to just avoid that, then yeah, that's the safe thing.
But is there a reason to do it?
Not really.
My true question.
Is there a reason not to do it?
Yeah, to avoid getting people upset.
But that's the only thing I can think of.
I mean, and gender swapping has become this weird thing now, too,
where I think it's a fun and interesting thing to do.
But it does feel like the broader application.
of that choice by Hollywood
has been to
you know just kind of I don't know
the rhyme and reason to doing it
where and when hasn't been as solid
as one would hope and I do
wonder if Ragged Rec is correct
if Galactus does have a female herald
anyway I think that's kind
of the key to this because
then you I think then
the argument goes just do that character
but obviously Silver Surfer
is the icon
my feeling remains the same like
I don't really care, but also
I don't think it's a strong enough argument that
like if it doesn't really matter, then who cares
because that's not going to help you fight the people
who are going to be the most annoying about this.
What was the second topic you think we talked about
most?
It definitely wasn't a superman.
I need to change the thumbnail.
Put all server servers in there.
I need to update it.
Omar Elcott.
I think the director of God of
thank you for the super chat.
Should Formed right and I should direct Thor 5?
What do you guys think?
Oh, the game, the director got a war era.
That would bring a very different flavor.
One that could bring it back to.
Yeah, you know, we haven't quite had an epic Thor movie that really does feel like the fantastical epic.
Norse mythology.
That weirdly feels like the thing that's missing from the Thor franchise is, is that epic Thor movie because they don't do.
that in the first Thor movie.
They were aiming more for that
in a dark world that they definitely
didn't succeed. And then
instead of trying to nail it down, they just
went the opposite direction. Yeah.
You know, which I think is, that would be a cool thing
if Thor 5 could nail the
Shakespearean and obviously Norse
it would need the story and stakes to provide
to warrant it though. Yeah, exactly.
Like it has to be a bit of a Lord
of the Rings or a bit of a Northman
or something like that, something like really
steeped in this. Yeah.
And that would be really cool,
but it would also need to be very much
dedicated to being that
and probably not too interconnected with other stuff.
A thousand percent. That's what it's really
all about, yeah, for sure, man, for sure.
I agree, John.
But let's get some nasty Viking Thor movies out here.
All right, guys, we're going to end soon.
I got a...
We've each aged so much since this dream again.
No, I've had a great time, man.
Honestly, I haven't wanted this end.
I've had a great time.
Yes.
Even when it got like serious and stuff,
I've had a great time.
Gerardo Tutoro, go back to the beginning of the chat of the stream and you'll find the answer.
Gang is Connie, Connie, Kanye, saying, my dear.
We got to do something soon, all of us.
I know, I need to put together a hangout.
Yeah, just for you and me and Connie.
I barely ask anyone in my life if they see me.
It's on a random night at like 11 p.m. where I'm like, hey, I got some time.
Yeah.
You want to go down the street?
Hey, are you free because I just got free?
Yeah, that is my life.
You got 10 minutes?
Yeah.
Let's cram it in.
Because there's other things I've been working on, too, outside of here.
How do you present a nude woman on a surpl or not a sexualizer?
Well, I think you go double down.
I think.
Honestly, I don't know.
Big ass, big, big who I'm going to bring them back over to you guys.
I mean, I am certainly here for a voluptuous silver observer,
but I think all they do is they just go with a Barbie physique.
Don't you apologize, Gerardo.
Don't you apologize?
And doesn't have.
too curvy of a hip
I don't know
I think it'll ride on
androgyny really
like the Silver Surfer has a very
masculine physique but like does Kevin
Sorbo's sci-fi shop
anything to do it? Yes of course
my bad I didn't mean it
Gabby P
that's Olivia's saying you gotta end this
that's yeah
that's a thousand percent
hello
what?
what
what she's say
Should we react to it
Or should we prepare ourselves mentally
Melissa Barrera apparently posted something
on her Instagram
This is why we
This is why we stayed live
Uh-oh
Uh-oh, what do we got? What do we got?
Okay, we can view it here, hold on a second
Why don't we have to log in
Log in
Just go to mine
All right
Johnny went to the wrong one
I went to the Greg Alva.
Just go.
See if that works.
All right.
Perfect.
Now we go.
Now we go back.
We're like paparazzi.
Fucking A. John, you don't know to do anything around here.
I do.
You're already logged in.
Melissa Barrera posts something.
This is better.
This is going to be the most exciting thing.
All right.
We got it.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
All right.
Oh, my God, Instagram.
You are so aggravating sometimes.
Not now.
We're good.
I'm going to look at it.
right now. Okay. View is real. Yes.
All right. Here's what she said. All right. John's got it, babe.
All right. Pause this. First and foremost.
Whoa, I'll put it up here.
Yes. My bee, my bee, my bee. All right. First and foremost, I condemn
anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. I condemn hate and prejudice of any kind against any
group of people as a Latina, a proud Mexican.
Let's just pause. I think that is exceptionally obvious.
Yes. I think that's exceptionally.
I think you've bent over backwards to a community.
I feel like we don't need
to have
it's sad that she has to
fucking have that
be her first and foremost. I think it's
very, very, very obvious.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, the odds is fap and over.
Still live, thank God. I think it's very obvious.
Anyway, please continue.
I ever read the rest of this? Let's see what she says.
As a Latina and a proud Mexicana,
I feel the responsibility of having a platform
that allows me the privilege of being heard
and therefore I have tried to use it to raise
awareness about issues I care about and
lend my voice to those in need.
Okay.
See, this is where some people get.
This is where some people get,
she's Mexican, I thought she was from Palestine.
No, she's said that before.
She's Mexican.
She talked about her people are also colonized.
She was referring to that.
Okay, let's read this again.
As a Latino is a proud of Mexican,
I feel the responsibility to have a platform
and allows her privilege of being hurt.
See, some people get upset that celebrities
or certain actors will take this opportunity
to have a voice.
to say something about a lot of times what a lot of times when people become actors is because
they're incredibly it's not all of them but some of them become very empathetic human beings
you know there are people who love to feel so if they feel something for this feel strongly and
they have a platform they're going to want to use it it's within their right to use it yeah well
there's a huge push pull from society about platforms and they use they're in so you know yeah
all right every person on this earth regardless of religion race ethnicity gender sexual orientation
or socioeconomic status
deserves equal human rights, dignity, and, of course,
freedom.
Safe place to live.
Yes, that is pretty much what we have been saying.
I believe a group of people are not their leadership
and that no governing body should be above criticism.
True that.
We've been saying the whole stream.
True that.
This whole stream is that, is that,
we've been saying that's what she's been saying.
Except for the American government, which is beyond all reproach.
But anyway.
But no, the entire time is like, it's pretty obvious everything she's been saying.
or not their government.
Like, it's crazy to even that she's making this statement
when it's like, guys, it's crazy.
She has to make this statement because of the shit
that Spike Glass said about her.
When that's not, when it was so obvious,
like, she did not need to say this.
You know, it was like, no, it's pretty obvious
that this is what she's been saying.
And now she's just making it exceptionally clear.
Anyway.
Misha Collins was getting death threats for speaking of about it?
I pray day and night,
for no more deaths, for no more violence,
for peaceful coexistence,
I will continue to speak up for those that need it most
and continue to advocate for peace and safety
for human rights and freedom, silence and an option for me.
Look, yeah, stay by what you believe in.
Absolutely.
And I think she's got way more people in her support
more now than ever.
Because a lot of people probably just knew her as like,
who's that girl from screen?
Yeah.
Now people really know her name.
And I think she can, you know, use this.
And the part of me that feels a concern for her
is will she be able to properly work
again, who will be the studio that is willing to take her back on?
And if Spyglass does want her back for Scream,
will she be willing to do it?
You know?
I don't think the Spyglass CEO, you know,
or say any of this snapper?
No, man.
Don't think it all.
No, and I think the fact that some people associate,
like I know it's easy to, if you're not in that country,
a lot of people will often hear about what the government is doing
and assume that is what all people are like,
but that's never, it's never the case.
social media has truly
given us. That's what some people say about
Americans. Of course.
We are the poster child for that.
Yeah, totally.
So, no, I think this is, I think this
was a smart,
just a super clear
statement for her to have made.
This is like,
it's weird because this started off, this stream
was us saying, Spike Glass
said some shit, it didn't line up
and we were asking people,
What did they, like, where exactly is the anti-Semitism?
You see people trying to hunt down the anti-Semitism.
They can't find it.
And then you conclude everything that you just said here.
And now she just puts it here to be like, I'm just going to make it really clear.
I'm like, yeah, this is exactly what it was.
You know?
So, yeah, good statement.
Yeah.
She's going to become super famous, even more famous than for it.
For all the reasons she was hoping.
I mean, hey, maybe she can use it to do something she's even more passionate about than acting.
Then go for it.
Anyway, so Lex Luthor.
Lex Luthor, the white guy playing Lex Luthor.
Thank you, Gabby P, for being our last super chat,
but we should go back to the stream labs,
and thank you to Olivia for calling me with Breaking News.
Yes, from the news desk.
That's why we stayed live.
We were going to stay live until Marissa Fresh.
Yes.
This was a stream of the century for us.
That's right, man.
We do what we can.
We said we go till 2.
That was only like 430.
Yeah, whatever, whatever.
We've been in Worse.
We've been in Worse.
You'll see your family tomorrow at some point.
Oh, no, where the stream labs go.
Here they are.
Yay, we're dear.
All right, a couple here.
A couple.
The last of our questions.
Okay, so we did this one last.
So we're moving on to question 29.
Let's do this.
Let's do this.
Who would you cast for the rest of the Justice League?
And what do you think of mine?
Martian Manhunter, Mahershala.
Ali originally had Lance Reddick.
but rest in peace, absolutely.
Deepak.
Yup, get it going.
Let's see, Wonder Woman.
Not sure for this one.
Flash, Dylan O'Brien, Hal Jordan,
Glenn Powell, and then we move on
to the second half of this.
Screen Labs.
That's clever.
Oh, Judah Miller's sending a weightlifting one.
We're acknowledging right now. Thank you.
Hey, Judah Miller. We'll get you on screen there. There you go.
John Stewart would be Trevante Rhodes.
I know that name.
Batman, Jensen Ackles, bit of a weird one,
Baron Taylor Johnson as well.
So we'll have two Batman. Why not?
Aquaman Alexander Ludwig.
Don't know that guy. Constantine.
Matt Ryan, not in Justice League,
but Ryan Gosling in question as well.
By the way, big fan of both you guys,
so we should be cast in the movie.
My, let's see,
there's some pretty good picks here.
Some pretty good picks.
So he does have Superman in here?
Nope.
Well, there you go.
I want...
I want Superman and Martian Manhunter.
I want to make it impossible to defeat them.
Yes.
Maybe this...
What fucking enemy you throw it?
Maybe this...
It is impossible.
Oh, my.
I mean, if you just make Martian Manhunter a Superman,
then you can put all those gripes to rest about them being almost the same character.
Hey, I like...
Let's see.
Let's just do a quick recap for funzies.
Martian Man Hunter.
I'm thinking that's all-state stand.
Dennis Hayesbury.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go.
Oh, what's his name?
Kiefer Sutherland.
Kiefer.
Sure.
Yeah.
Wonder Woman, actually, somebody in the chat said Melissa Barrera.
I could see it.
But my pick has been Adria Arjona for a minute now.
I'm going to Arre Plaza.
Sure.
I would be there.
I would love to see that.
Flash.
Glenn Powell.
Oh, nice.
Good call on that.
Yeah, a thousand percent going with a key.
I'm actually going DJ Qualls for Clash.
Hal Jordan.
Oh, nice, good one.
Just keep throwing Nathan Fillion in there.
Harrison Ford.
I want one uninspired choice.
A thousand percent Harrison Ford.
Sure. John Stewart, I'll cast Trevor Noah.
Oh, very good call.
There we go, sure.
Batman.
Oh, I didn't get a chance to go.
What do you want?
Oh, for John Stewart.
John Stewart.
Who you want?
Oh, easily.
Dave Chappelle.
Dave Chappelle?
Yeah, this is a good choice.
Jensen Ackles.
Who you cast is Jensen Ackles?
Jerry Padillik.
He's going to be Batman.
Aquaman.
Aquaman.
What are we thinking?
What are we thinking?
Who will be a good Aquaman?
Yeah.
Oh, that's easy.
Brie Larson's Aquaman.
Why not?
Constantine, I'm going to cast that comedian from TikTok who just got canceled because of his insensitive stand-up routine.
That guy.
doing chapters on this video is that right there you go matt rife instead of matt rife
instead of matt ryan will be uh constant yeah yeah that's a good question thank you mac
thank you question 29 yeah well audrey plaza would be the whatever woman uh i like it i like i like all
these the gamer mj we still have inside out too for movies next year inside out to ghostbusters
bad boys for if and quiet place day one to name a few uh yeah quite i'm like reasonably excited
for all them.
Quiet place they want I'm excited for.
Because John Krasinski's not
making it and I'm trying to see what direction
it will take it in.
I love that show. I love that show.
What's your favorite? Who's your favorite doctor?
Oh, I've said it.
It's Eccleston.
And reaction to the crisis had to be it
a trailer.
Nah, no, no, no.
Oh, damn.
I mean, I would love to cover the new crisis.
Give it good work.
On Infinite Earth.
Thank you, Gamer, MJ.
And then here it is.
Oh, my God.
Chris Whamoff.
Much love and nobody
to shout it to showing solidarity
for those around the strike.
Chris Wammoth.
Chris.
Chris Wammoff.
I do want to shout something out.
We were talking, my friend.
And Mr. Chris Wammoth,
who just gave us some fucking
like three times in a row,
fucking 500 bucks.
Because we've been making sure
to a whole history there
with the people who have been part of the strike,
who have been part of the channel.
so thank you very much
he just got engaged
not long ago
he's got a beautiful fiancé
Chris wedding
is a lucky lucky woman
and I hope that you run out of money
for your wedding by just giving it all
to our live streams
have your honeymoon
on the live stream
so dude Chris
thank you so much for being like the amazing
gentleman that you are
for helping out the channel the way you are doing
and for just being an overall gentleman
congratulations on being engaged
for always helping people out
you're the fucking man and thank you so much
for being you dude thank you so so much
and happy Thanksgiving to you and your family
and your fiancee your beautiful human being
thank you Chris I appreciate you very much
very very fucking generous my man my man
dude your biceps are getting called out in the chat right now
Really?
Good today.
Look at that.
That's for clempt right there.
The end of the stream is what we do.
All right, John, what do you think about Dave Filoni?
I mean, this is probably what so many people have been waiting for.
Dude, yeah, I mean, it's the movie the Century right here.
It seems like a foregone conclusion.
Get ready for everyone to get lost on Star Wars.
I haven't seen all these fucking animated things he's putting in my live action movies.
I'm excited for this not to fix everything.
And I'm excited to get like, maybe.
I don't know what's going on.
Maybe slightly more unified material, but that doesn't fix everything.
Basically, I'm excited for what seems like a solid choice that will not make everyone happy.
I don't know.
I feel like Dave Filoni, out of anyone who's been involved in Star Wars lately.
Easily the best chance.
Easily the best chance.
Easily the greatest fit for it.
And he seems to be the one who's, right now it's about winning back here.
They're in a weird spot right now because they need to gain new fans.
They need to heal the brand.
But they also have to win back their old fans.
and they got to do both
because you can't just win back
your old fans you've got to grow your
fan base like it's just part of the game
and
but when you when you're been losing your old fans
that's a real problem
I get that people outgrow
people grow apart in relationships
it's part of what happens in life
but with Star Wars
no you got to maintain that shit
you know and
and I think
Faloni is the solution to that
your arms
are getting a lot, a lot of attention.
It's all that G-fuel.
And also, I'm going to tell you guys
about the craziest deal Greg just made.
Oh.
I'm getting less money for G-fuel.
Again?
Dude, it's the third time.
It's the third time they're doing this.
I'm getting less money for G-fuel.
And because they already don't,
they barely pay anything.
Yes.
You know?
Yes.
And I'm always, and I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with that because I'm always like,
I'm always telling them this.
I don't really care about the money.
I just want the G-fuel.
I'm always telling it.
You save enough just with the complimentary.
Everyone who comes here would know this behind the scenes.
Greg loves.
People ask me for G-fuel a lot of times before they film.
I'm always going to do it.
I love G-fuel.
And they offered less money.
And I was like, okay.
Can you send me more cans, though?
I'll take no money for unlimited cans.
That's why they don't realize.
Do you guys realize that that's the path we're headed down is you will not compensate.
It's anything financially.
You will just be setting me.
I just want to get to a year supply of cans.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lifetime supply.
Yeah.
That's all I'm trying to get to you right now.
It's like we're getting to a point where you're so close.
There's going to be no compensation.
Just give me all the cans.
My exact message.
Oh, I was like, let me see if I could just have John read this for the first.
I am, I love that.
I am, I am going to start lifting
in 2024 and
Gigachad John is coming.
Don't worry. I'm the last guy now
who has to catch up to you guys.
Gigachad John
2024. Don't read the, out of respect just because
of contracture. Don't read that
number here.
Okay.
But read, read the chat that I said.
Read what I said.
It's the first time John's reading this. This is how much I love
GField. So I'm just reading you?
Or am I reading the above as well?
No, just me.
Yeah, man, let's chat about it.
What are the requirements?
And as long as I can get a shit ton of G-fuel cans, hell.
You know what?
Can I drop the rate and get double the amount of cans?
I'm that guy and get me a couple G-fuel shirts.
But hey, I mean, that's got to be the kind of person you want on your influencer roster.
Like somebody who just cares about the prime.
Don't get around the money. I just want the G fuel.
And it benefits me and Coy at the very least.
And anybody who gets a straight can on the way in,
they were kind enough to send me some G fuel.
They send Coy some G fuel.
I'm still working through the supply of G fuel.
They sent me the first time.
That's what I mean, man.
Like, it helps.
It really does.
And it does.
And I be coming in with this shaker.
It keeps me sprawled.
A lot of work goes on around here.
You know, we like doing five-hour-old live streams.
This is, you know, as you guys see,
we always do five hours.
This is the same energy expenditure
is spending all day at a theme park.
So my point is that
yeah, you know, I wrote
like a couple of screenplays this year too
on top of that and sometimes I'm writing
at like five in the morning because I get done editing
at one in the morning.
And GFill really helps out.
It's not even sponsored. I just fucking love them.
Anyway, guys, yeah, we got to bounce
because there are still things to wrap up.
We've been on for four hours and 20.
Four and a half hours.
20, baby, where it's the perfect time to stop.
Guys, I don't know who's been here since the beginning, but thanks to you for, if you've been here for any, if you've been here for longer than 20 minutes, thank you so much.
You are just tuning in.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for being here.
I feel like we, we love Blind Wave 2.
I feel like we really needed this stream today.
It was a really, like, cathartic stream, I would say.
Janine, I'm pretty sure you've been here since the fucking beginning.
Thank you.
Let's tell you some bye to some people.
Everyone who contributed to our stream labs.
Thank you, Judah Miller for one last sticker right there.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Shouts out to the fucking people who gave like massive, massive, like some couple people
who got, someone gave $100, someone gave $50, fucking Chris Brown for the $500.
That's fucking enormous.
Thank you.
Killing it, guys.
If you just contribute like a dollar, I appreciate it.
If you didn't contribute, you were just in the chat, appreciate you guys being here.
Really love today.
Great way to lead into Thanksgiving.
And thank you to everyone for being here.
So Matt, Israel, Wanam, Darkar, just saying random names that are popping up in our show right now, PDX metal, Tori Jerry, Heather Gear, we got Elon Blas, the Gamer MJ, Samer MJ, Tate Prime, Mr. Sentinel.
Tate Prime, El Poyo.
Bonnie, all righty.
Everybody.
Got to head out.
Thank you guys so much, much love, sincerely.
I really love this one.
Be well, be well, be thankful, be good to each other.
Especially.