The Reel Rejects - Scream 7 DISASTER! Melissa Barrera Fired, Jenna Ortega LEAVES, Superman Lex Luthor Casting, & MORE!

Episode Date: November 23, 2023

WHAT A WEEK FOR HOLIDAY NEWS! Melissa Barrera Fired From Scream 7, Jenna Ortega Leaves Scream 7, James Gunn's Superman Legacy has found it's Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult) & Jimmy Olsen, The Marvels Has... A Record Breaking Box Office DROP For Comic Book Movies (Worst for the MCU By far), & There are also talks about Silver Surfer being female, Spider-Man 4 finally crossing over with the likes of Madame Web, Kraven The Hunter, Venom, & Morbius. Creed 4 is a go, Jason Bourne gets a fifth, and surely we will give our thoughts & theories on the current state of the Marvel Cinematic Universe & DC Universe (Formerly DCEU) with films like Avengers Kang Dynasty, Avengers Secret Wars, Fantastic Four, Deadpool 3 with Hugh Jackman Wolverine, Aquaman The Lost Kingdom, The Batman 2, Joker 2, all set to come within the next year! #Scream #Scream7 #Ghostface #Superman Jenna Ortega Leaves Scream 7 #SupermanLegacy #TheMarvels #CaptainMarvel #MsMarvel #Deadpool #Blade #FantasticFour #Avengers #AvengersSecretWars  Become A Patron-O-Ject Supporter For Full-Length T.V. Show REACTIONS & Q&A'S!!! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG On INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think we're live. Guys, you know the drill. Let us know. I think it's happening, John. Tell us, people. I think we did it. Yes, I think we are. If we're live, you must mention to us that we are live and that you could hear us.
Starting point is 00:00:17 That's also the most crucial part of the stream. Yes. It's the part everybody looks forward to. We are live? It is. Just James. Can you hear us? It's live.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We're expecting this to be a relatively calm. stream. John, say hi to people while I adjust the chat. Hello, Christian, unpronounceable. Thank you for being here. Just James, Grayson, Hamelin. Interesting. You remind me of a different name I'm used to seeing here, but I think you are a different guy. Random A, the laser, high man, zizzy, Ozzie, the nerdy, wave Y, R, expert, criminal. Got to get some tips from you, Stevie. Main 7G. Dude, lots of interesting new names. This will be, this will be, this will be cool because we're on a Wednesday. Back in the day, it was a Wednesday. Shout out to all them Dean Cook fans out there. Now's the time, baby.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Hey man, people, uh, people, you know, they love Dan Cook. But anyway, StimPulse, how you doing? Karomi, how you doing? Allie, Victor, Hugo. Janine, what's up, Janine, the machine in the chat? Good to see you. Miss you lots. All right. I think I got everything adjusted. Everybody give a hand. in the chat for Gregory. Yeah, please. He's why I'm here. He's been here rearranging stuff. New news has broken, and he made sure that we got it all in the relevant information for you guys,
Starting point is 00:01:42 so you know what we're going to be talking about today. We must get started, ladies and gentlemen. Here we go. Enough. John, can you close that, please? No. So the cats don't get into there. All right, well, John's closing that.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Thank you guys for being here. Normally we go live on, like, Fridays or Saturdays, but with it being Thanksgiving weekend. We thought we do our live on Wednesday before Thanksgiving. And plus we got Doctor Who coming out on Saturday. And, okay, so a couple of things we want to get out of the way. Things we're going to talk about today that I did not think it would be the thing that is going to be so predominant. But we have updates about Scream 7. Many of you guys, I'm sure, have heard by now about lead actress, the star of the latest installments of Scream.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Melissa Barrera, she has been fired. and now it got reported officially. General Ortega has also left. And so we're going to talk about, yeah, positive news. Yes, guys, we're all happy. Genocide wins. So, yeah, so we have that. And then, you know, like, we wanted to talk.
Starting point is 00:02:45 There's like a big variety of things that you guys helped dictate the entire stream based about what's going on in the chat if you haven't been here before. But, you know, like there's other things that we've been hearing about. Superman legacy casting with Nicholas Holt. and you know we also have like marvel's box office and there's a whole bunch of other things as well massive thank you to everyone who did contribute to the last stream i was not present for that one but i saw you guys were extremely generous and that really helps out a lot because playbacks on these are not the greatest uh so the support that you guys show it's a it really does go to
Starting point is 00:03:23 help out significantly but we always stay in tune with the chat image you can't contribute that's A-OK. We just want to just talk about some stuff. You know, it's fun to actually do a live stream that's not just about Marble and D.C. I'm sure that will be a big part of the topics for today. Yeah, and even if it took some pretty controversial and harsh news to get us talking about something
Starting point is 00:03:45 other than Marvel and D.C. Yeah, a thousand percent. Which those whoops were jokes, people. I'm not happy that they have been fired. It's actually pretty messed up and we're going to talk about it. Okay, so let's talk about the first thing. Let's just get it out of the way. Let's talk about the main thing here.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Melissa, and also for you're here, for you being here, please go ahead, leave a like on this video. That would mean a lot. All righty, Melissa Barrera fired from Scroom 7. So she plays the lead character whose name I am totally blanking on right now. Sam Carpenter. The Carpenter sisters, yes, Sam Carpenter. And you know what, John, we do not.
Starting point is 00:04:23 We, this is, our lives streams are extremely hanging out. If you want professionalism set up with tech crew and all that, that's what the John Campia show is for. Okay. And then maybe Star Wars Theory or something. What did Spyglass say exactly? Because this was the part. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah, we should get what Spyglass said. Yeah. Because that shit is kind of baffling on what they said. John, while I'm pulling that up, why don't you, you know, kill the time here and tell us what you, what happened? What comes to memory here while I'm typing nothing. I mean, yeah, I recall Spyglass releasing a statement of some sort, basically to the effect that, you know, we don't tolerate any type of anti-Semitism or false claims of genocide or ethnic cleansing or any other of those, you know, pretty harsh buzzwords.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And so they are basically implying that most of the things that Melissa Barrera was posting are, you know, false or misinformation. and you know they are taking a no tolerance stance on that you know I think a lot of us in the chat have probably all seen her post by now but but yeah she's been let go for basically you know expressing a very pro-Palestine free Palestine stance essentially okay here it is I found it I found it hey here's what it says in time spy glasses stance is unequivocally clear we have zero taller spy glasses are the producers of the screen franchise. And here's the thing, guys.
Starting point is 00:05:58 The Screen Franchise is my favorite horror movie franchise. So while it's not like the biggest number generator for us on the channel or some shit like that, this is one that I'm going to be following closely because this is my favorite horror franchise. Spike Glass stance is unequivocally clear. We have zero tolerance for anti-Semitism or the incitement of hate in any form, including false references to genocide, ethnic cleansing, Holocaust distortion, or anything that flagrantly crosses the line into hate speech.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Now, here's the interesting part about it. You can find, does someone put together a giant thread on Twitter? Because when this got released, normally when something like this happens, you can kind of see it coming. Where perhaps Melissa
Starting point is 00:06:42 Barrera was saying some shit online and then you start seeing on social media people calling for her to be fired. You know, like fired this woman or whatever. And then that wasn't happening. so this was sort of unexpected and then people were
Starting point is 00:06:58 pretty much going where's the anti-Semitism where's the part where she is clearly when this thing that spyglass is saying where is that and it's just a lot of people going wait I'll find it give me a second if you squint hard enough give me a second I mean there
Starting point is 00:07:18 there are a couple of posts in there that flirt with confusing the but even those aren't very blatant or at least they are unclear and that's kind of how they're interpretable as you know yeah i mean for the when you boil it down to what she's and and look john and i are not going to be the ones that you're going to go to for um the the political conversation on what's going on in is real we're very much so learning about all this and it's a big thick confusing issue to balance out in your head yeah yes and it's it's very it's very complex and the whole thing though that what all I can speak to is what Melissa
Starting point is 00:08:00 Barrera has been talking about and when it essentially boils down to is her she's been saying I want the I want to ceasefire and I want the hostages return she has made it very clear that she is not anti-subile she supports Jewish people and Palestinian people that it's not about when she's saying like Free Palestine, when she is talking specifically about being anti-genocide or like for me, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:30 when you see like the atrocities that are happening to innocent civilians, that's what she is talking about. You know, the casualties of war are usually being civilians. And so that is where her heart and her messaging has been and been talking about how she feels like the media
Starting point is 00:08:46 is primarily focusing on the Israel side and not so much of what's going on with the Palestinian. So that's all it's really been. She hasn't been anti-Jews. She's bent over backwards in a lot of these posts to differentiate, like, you know, the IDF is not all of the regular people living in Israel, is not the Jewish people, Hamas is not the entirety of the Palestinian people. There are a lot of just regular humans caught up in this that are, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:13 bearing the brunt of, you know, the violence and the atrocity and whatnot. And, yeah, I feel like, you know, She is, and there are, you know, plenty of Jewish people who do not support, you know, these actions as well, and she acknowledges that. And, yeah, I don't know. She's been, it seems pretty careful not to flippantly dismiss any one group or culture people with these posts. She's also been extremely clear on her stance for the, like, there has been sentiments that she is at echo that I have said on my social media as well. Because, like I said, I'm not the most well informed. The part, I started really learning about this recently.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Like, we got people here who come on the channel, who I'm not going to say it. Some people have brought them up into chat, you know, that I've talked extensively about it with them. My wife is actually very well informed on these matters as well, what's going on in Israel and Palestine. And it's something that I've just been learning about. And the part that speaks to me the most, like, there's been times where I look more out of it than I already normally do. We're like, John and Coy have come into the room. and they're asking me why I look out and I'm like
Starting point is 00:10:16 I was just up all night Is it just the normal reasons? It's like heart wrenching terror Like I'll be up all night There are been times where I'm just up all night Like watching the raw videos Of what's happening to like the children I'm trying to watch some of my words here
Starting point is 00:10:32 Of what's happening to the children out there And that's the stuff that really fucks with me basically And so with her sentiments I've always been about that And her sentiments have also been about how, hey, look, we might disagree with what's going on with the governments. But that doesn't mean that we have to be prejudiced against Palestinian people or Jewish people. And she's pretty explicit about that. So all this to say, I vehemently disagree with Spy Glass's decision to firing her and the way they formulate it about because it's already hard enough for it.
Starting point is 00:11:11 an actress, an ethnic actress at that, to get work and to essentially blacklist them in this way is so fucked up. It's messed up. And they're also ruining the franchise. And now, General Ortega herself is reportedly left
Starting point is 00:11:27 the franchise as well. And now there was already the speculation prior that she'll be leaving. Oh my God, we got a couple of super, I didn't even realize we got so focused on the conference. Thank you for the super jazz. Thank you guys. We will get to them, I promise. Yeah, absolutely. And then the other part is like, General Ortega now has left the franchise and you know there was already reports that she might be leaving due to her scheduling with Wednesday and because she's a busy woman she's a superstar and she got to finish beetle juice too as well yeah yeah I've had like two days left on film me those two days yeah yeah um needless to say this is left a really negative stain on the scream franchise like it's everything they do now is just gonna there was something that felt like
Starting point is 00:12:11 Like a true, like, if you look at the Scream franchise after West Craven's passing, to then get different filmmakers involved, you needed filmmakers who really knew this world and really understood the voice of it and could also bring their own voice to it. And then they had to create new characters you can get invested into. And granted, you know, I think we were kind of on the same. I think you liked Melissa Barrera's performance more than I did in Scream 5. but by Scream 6
Starting point is 00:12:40 I loved what she did and I was so on board to see like man what are they going to do with her character it seemed like are we watching a secret origin of a new ghost face this entire time you know that's kind of the impression I was getting I wanted to see it unfold
Starting point is 00:12:55 and of course Jenna Ortega being one of the best actresses working today to lose these two who are the new faces of them we've already lost Neve Campbell I feel like the Scream franchise is now in just utter disarray and it has drastically affected
Starting point is 00:13:12 my emotional association with the franchise now just from how they're handling in it. Even the director came out said something along the lines of this. I don't really have a comment on this. This sucks. It was not my decision. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:13:29 It's really fucked up what's going on and I do not agree with the fire. I know there's a lot of like what aboutism already occurring on the internet. of comparing it to other people's situations. I do think it's unfair when you see celebrities on the complete opposite side of the stuff Melissa Barrera has been posting,
Starting point is 00:13:48 but the sentiment is pretty much the same. You know, like, we don't want these civilians to be getting slaughtered. Yeah, it's just not as cut and dry as, you know, people being removed from things for, you know, intimate misconduct, I guess I'll say, or, you know, violence or things like that. that, you know, this zeroes you in on the idea that whoever's making the decisions
Starting point is 00:14:11 it's by glass, or like with the Susan Sarandon situation getting dropped from her representation, you know, this comes down to something, I think, a bit more complex than just a universal ideal of, like, racism is probably bad, or, you know, being a sex pest is probably bad. Yeah. You know, it's like agreeably bad. Whereas this, yeah, I think there are a lot of misconstruings of, you know, sympathies toward the regular Palestinian people and turning that into anti-Semitism. And that's one of the big problems of the culture. Hey, 3C. Oh, you know, 3C. Hey, Chris, in the chat. Thank you. Hey. We were going to get to, guys, Chris did put out a video about this yesterday. And
Starting point is 00:14:56 it's a really, it's a short, it's a brief one, but it's, I think he speaks, he speaks, he speaks sufficiently on the matter that I think is very impactful at the same time. And I think he echoes a lot of the feelings that we're all essentially feeling. Yeah. And I mean, this is, I mean, you know, private companies can do what they want. But this is one of those things where this is an ongoing situation. It's very muddy and it's based on a lot of complicated history. And reading her posts and seeing how careful and careful both in terms of like phrasing,
Starting point is 00:15:28 but also careful in terms of compassion. She seems like she was trying to be. it does smack of something different than just like, oh, you stepped out of line and you need to be punished for this. It does feel like somebody at the top of Spyglass just has a distinct ideological disagreement here. And so, yeah, it doesn't feel fair in the same way that, like, somebody being booted
Starting point is 00:15:51 for actual bad behavior feels somehow fair. Someone in the chat. What? Someone in the chat said, pre palpity. You never know when you're going to get a little levity. Chad's going to find so fast that I almost missed it. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Free Palpatine as well. Maybe he'll chill out. Maybe the galaxy will be better for it. Jesus Christ. I don't know. There are a million trillion things to say about this, but it does seem dissonant. Well, yeah. I mean, again, like people are bringing up, hey, they've got the, you know, like Noah Schnapp.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I don't really know what Noah Schnapp. schnapps. Alasaw was the one post going around. It's kind of the opposite is him kind of, yeah. Very, very pro, distinctly pro-Israel and mocking, you know, the other side cause. Right. Essentially.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And that's kind of the point of, it's kind of weird with like her talking about the unfairness in the media. Well, and then you see what happens this is this ran and Tom Cruise having to step in and save his agent, you know, it's like a whole bag of words in and of itself. Yeah, it's kind of fucked. It's a really messed up situation. And at the end of the day, like, what it boils down to, guys, is like, regardless of the political sentiments, you got to look at what she was actually saying and what the intent is. And it's not what Spyglass is saying that she said.
Starting point is 00:17:18 It's just plain and simple, it's not. Yeah. And no matter what aboutisms we do or what other situations we want to compare it to, let's just look at the immediate situation right now. And it's not what she did. But I would be curious to, at least that's my take on it. That's my take on it. What do you guys in the chat feel about it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 It's a super subjective interpretation. Yeah, definitely. Of her words. I know it's easy to say, can we have a non-political stream? But the firing is unfortunately due to, there's a politicism. We're not giving you the history of the conflict, but it does. Yeah. Her comments on it, we have to at least kind of dive into that side of the pool a little bit.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. Do you guys think that Melissa should have been fired? I'll ask you guys in the chat right now. And we'll move on to some other subjects. Yeah. I want to check out these super chats, see what's going on in there. But, yeah, there's other topics we do want to get to. This is the main one that's been on our mind.
Starting point is 00:18:15 John and I were talking about really late last night. Yeah, and it's just one of those instances where I do think, you know, as much as people whinge about like, ah, swift motion when somebody really steps out of line. This is a situation where I'm like, I don't know, even if you guys disagree, you could have had some kind of dialogue. or come to the table or something. Yeah, I don't know. Certain schools of thought will take any sympathy toward Palestine
Starting point is 00:18:39 as just anti-Semitism, basically. I mean, it seems like everyone in the chat is very much saying no. I don't see anyone saying that she should have been fired. No, I don't think it makes any sense. Yeah, and there's some people who are saying that, like, hey, maybe they might hire her back. Part of me is like, would you want to get hired back?
Starting point is 00:18:58 Yeah, and people are also talking about, like, put in Neve Campbell now. It's the only way to save it. And I'm like, what's it going to say if Neb Campbell's accepts that? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know what they're going to do. And it seems like we finally got to the point with Scream 6 where I cared about the Core 4 completely, because
Starting point is 00:19:14 I actually think we were pretty close on Scream 5. Like, I you know, wanted to like her performance more in that movie, and then I loved her in Scream 6. So I'm glad she got to make her mark, but I'm also sad we don't get to see that through. Spike Glass should be
Starting point is 00:19:30 fired from your own company yeah i mean i i read through most of that giant twitter thread that they put out of like most of her post and i'm just trying to find i was trying i was really examining to try to be like is there something here that i am totally missing uh is there it's like a rorschach like i heard the headline and it was before people started responding so i was like oh god what did she do and i went and looked at this very thread and the further i read i was like okay okay when's the either i am very distorted myself and cannot see this or where is the anti-semitism happening and then people started to freak out about it i agree with um jeanine's comment in the chat that yeah conversation should have been had it seems so impromptu i mean maybe there
Starting point is 00:20:19 was a conversation happening uh but at the end of the day she was standing by what she believes in and she i guess she wants to be on the what she feels at the right side of history and something And people feel like, hey, you're an actress, you shouldn't say this shit. And it's like, well, it's her own personal social media. You know what I mean? And she's allowed to talk about whatever she wants as part of the free speech of things, you know. And I don't feel like she, I don't think she was out of line. No, I don't think she said something like completely insensitive or immoral.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Again, it's like even if you don't agree, I feel like there's so much nuance to this and also to the way that she's posed her. thoughts, you know, to the way that she's considered all the things that she's saying and addressed criticism in these posts and stuff like that. Like, yeah, I don't know. Alyssa said that Jenna's the one who told her she got fired. Hmm. I wonder if that's true. Oh, goodness. I mean, you know, Jenna Ortega is, you know, well documented in the chat here. It certainly shares similar views. So I can't imagine, you know, she's heartbroken not to be back. Either way, even if she really does just have
Starting point is 00:21:27 Wednesday scheduling issues or whatever which the guy from Wednesday just got booted for alleged misconduct of a more concrete variety weird times. All right well
Starting point is 00:21:41 all right I mean I'm just going to see what's going on over here really quick I want to read what Chris said since we're on this subject and Chris is one of the main faces here of
Starting point is 00:21:58 3C films is like when Scream stuff is coming out like he's the go-to guy I don't think Spyglass tanks I don't think a lot of the average public will really know about this Oh but if Spyglass wants to offer us If we want to be Sam and Tara we want to be Sam and Tara
Starting point is 00:22:14 We'll gladly take it Yeah yeah yeah I just want to throw that out there Bring the contract you can use my AI identity We're totally okay We're what you call just following the crowd here. We're cultural scavengers. I'll say, I mean, the last thing,
Starting point is 00:22:32 I keep wanting to move on, but, you know, it's a, it's an interesting thing because I'm often seeing people going, why aren't many celebrities speaking out about what's going on right now? And then something like this happens when you hear about what's going, what happened at CIA with Tom Cruise's agent,
Starting point is 00:22:51 when students ran in the down Belisa Barrera, and you're like, oh, no wonder, lot of people are really and it's not like we should expect people to which is usually when something really big is happening in the world you hear a large influx of celebrities you know yeah and you're hearing a lot of people who you might expect to say something like not even like voice and opinion and it's not like we again we don't need to hear them it was just kind of there wasn't attention drawn that you didn't hear them talk about it yeah these are usually the people with the cultural water cooler and I mean it does it makes me just really quick it seems in my life
Starting point is 00:23:32 narrative of how things play out it's like we've had all this practice with these you know water cooler issues that are like we said very cut and dry about the cultural confrontations of sexism and racism all that stuff whereas this is like really murky and like it's dividing friends dividing families and like people feel very very strongly and like the amount of information to misinformation and all that other stuff is so dizzying that like I I I it makes me look back and I'm like we've already had trouble you know dealing with issues that are at least much more black and white than this is and now it's like the training wheels are off and we're on a motorcycle yeah issue like this and I agree I think it's daunting for a lot it's you know it's like I don't have much reason like no one comes to me in a public setting for like thoughts on this but this is one of those things where I'm like God even when I have a thought I'm like I got to I think about it's it like five or six times then I don't want to speak I just want to go kind of listen and take in and see what I can learn because I never feel like I know enough about this yeah you know yeah it's you know I would say that the chat here for the
Starting point is 00:24:41 most part you know like obviously there's some people here or upsetting some people absolutely support the LGBTQ community as as you'd expect there are people here who are upsetting at the same time I think for the most part you know you guys are doing a pretty civil job you are you are
Starting point is 00:25:01 it was a bit apprehensive about going the last I was on a live stream was with the marvels and that was rough for me so to see this it is actually pretty interesting but yeah we don't I don't I don't I don't not saying that I think celebrities they must talk about it it's just there are some celebrities where
Starting point is 00:25:17 you usually hear them talk about things yeah and then to not hear them talk about stuff was kind of a it was like it did catch my eye like huh why aren't we and then you see that okay well damn this could be the thing is is like sometimes the the popular opinion is in the heat of the moment when you hear that phrase i want to be on like the right side of history you know what i mean a lot of the time that is not the popular opinion in the moment what history is being made yeah you know So I'm not saying what is right or wrong. It's just when it comes to what Melissa Barrera was specifically talking about, if you really go into it,
Starting point is 00:25:56 she has been very vocal about like, hey, I got a lot of Jewish people in my life who are being. And I see it. It's something that really upsets me in my personal life is that I hate seeing people who are Jewish or Palestinian being ostracized, condemned, just for being Jewish and Palestinian. It's like they're just people. They're not the They're not the government You're not your nation, yeah
Starting point is 00:26:22 And I mean It's just pure racism at that point Yeah And somebody in the chat said Like genocide is a simple thing And it is in concept But there's so much political entanglement around it
Starting point is 00:26:34 And here in America Where we are allied With the nation of Israel And we have a complex history Of colonization And things like that Of our own to deal with I do feel like
Starting point is 00:26:45 It's the surrounding stuff that over-complicates. People trying to say genocide is bad, gets over-complicated by all the other stuff that surrounds this particular situation. So while it should be easy to kind of do what Melissa Barrera is trying to do and go, hey, all the needless death
Starting point is 00:27:02 on both sides of this should probably stop and genocide is in fact bad. Like, that shouldn't be controversial, but yet here we are because of these complex entanglements. And the fact that, I mean, there are so much deep back-and-forth trauma for both of these communities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I don't know really how you untangle it until everybody just decides to stop, you know. But maybe they should bring back Stu. They could bring back Matthew Liller. He never died. He never died. You could bring back Jamie Kennedy. He never died. You know, bring back everybody.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Cedric plays. And we're trying to say it shouldn't be complicated, but, you know. It shouldn't be, but here we are. And people are getting fired for talking about what shouldn't. The aspect that shouldn't be complicated. But supposedly there is a ceasefire in the talks right now. so let's see how that goes anyway
Starting point is 00:27:50 sure be nice anyway yes tiptoe for real yeah no we are being a little more careful because we don't want to act like we're the experts on this on the specific subject and sometimes it is but we are being honest about our feelings
Starting point is 00:28:04 you know we live in America so like confidence and lonerism is the is the sauce but I feel like some issues you should be delicate about until you are at least confident that you're like full informed, so yeah, of course be delicate. Why not? Oh, I'm trying to get this going.
Starting point is 00:28:22 As long as you're not being inauthentic in the pursuit of, you know, being delicate or whatever. John, I can't pull this up. Oh, golly. Let's, let's fix it. That's why you're here, buddy. I want to see what, we got a few super chats. I want to just read, I want to read them really quick. Give them the time of day. All right, we're just going to build some new.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Going to build some new. We've just had some live stream stuff going wrong here. All right. So we are going to, hey, sorry, gang. You're going to see the nuts and bolts for a minute here. Let's just kill that when that. What is that? No, worry about it.
Starting point is 00:29:09 We're just fixing a couple of things really quick. Yeah. What happened to our, we're using OBS? Everything was set up. Yeah. I want to get rid of it. I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Anyway, stop. I'll stall while you do it, John. Fix this. All right. Yeah, no, I agree with your comment there, Cedra, about it, about being against government does not mean you're against people. It's like, we're American. We can be against parts of the, of, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:47 oftentimes you hear about the left and right argument with each other, you know. And there's a reason why is because the left doesn't agree with the right, the right doesn't agree with the left, but it doesn't necessarily mean you're anti-American, even though sometimes that disagreement might lead people to think that you're anti-American. It does not equate to that. Like, there are parts in the political spectrum of America that, again, no expert in, that occasionally I'll get involved in a conversation,
Starting point is 00:30:10 I'll hear something, and I don't agree with it. But I'm anti-American. At the end of the day, I'm happy to be American. Yeah, we're at least in a very fortunate position right now. This guy Greg ever not wear a head, Ben? Not these days. I mean, yeah. John, you're getting this sorted.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Don't worry, buddy. It's, it's figure it out. Dern it. Yeah, it's. Oh, my God, no. We're so close. dimensions. I'm not against government, but I am against ghosts. That's why I support
Starting point is 00:30:44 the Ghostbusters. Sure, why not? Why not? We'll go with that. Okay, on the playback, we should remember to cut this part out. Yeah, definitely. It worked, and now I'm going to do it a third time. You got this, John. I believe in you. All right. You guys are going to see the thing again, and we're going to take it away again. This is good. This is for all you
Starting point is 00:31:08 who want to have your own live stream. Sausage is made, man. I'm really not sure what happened with the stream, but John will fix it. You know, instead of closing everything out and refreshing it. Oh, did Napoleon flop? Is it flopping? People are saying, a couple people said in the chat that it flopped. Is Ridley being a grouch?
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah, the guy seems to get more cantankerous as time goes on. Dude, that's the Greg word now. I love it. It is my word. It's my new favorite word. It's your new fave. It's good. We should all have a fave piece of boath.
Starting point is 00:31:38 You don't got this. I don't believe in you. That's the motivation that I need right now. What are you going for, John? Is this all on screen right now? Can everyone see this? Nope. No, they cannot see any of it,
Starting point is 00:31:49 and I'm going to change the dimensions shortly. Yeah, guys, so ExpressVPN is hiding us right now. We are so money, baby. How did Napoleon, like, just came out? Yes. Napoleon just came out. Oh, my God. John, you did it.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Hey. You did it. In fact, we can crop this a little bit further. Let's just, uh, let's just work with what we got right now, John. Sure, why not? But we're already here. I mean, now we got that chat hidden. There's, that's why I'm trying to crop this just a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:32:26 All right. Okay. Duplicit. Do you. Do whatever else you want to do goddamn John's words right there. All righty. We're going to have to change up the vibe of this stream as we, John did it. Everyone give John a round of applause.
Starting point is 00:32:41 John does what he can. Appreciate you, Johnny. All right, let's read. I want to read, I want to make sure we get to Chris's chat. Let me just do some minor adjustments here. We're doing this in a very relaxed cadence today, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. That's how we're going to, we want it.
Starting point is 00:32:57 We're like, let's just relax today because we don't know how heated today can get. Yeah, we're trying to get this a little light. Yeah. All righty. I'm going to move this down. Yeah. Yeah, I like the look of that. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:33:12 That is aesthetically. There we go. All right, John. How are you feeling, John? Are you good? I'm so good. I'm excited to make another one of these when we go to stream less. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It's going to be great. Thank you, John. Anytime. All right. So, Johnny, thank you for the super chat, the first one kicking it off. For both, how many DVDs do you have? Are you going to buy Oppenheimer? Thoughts on Best Buy ending physical media while Nolan defends physical media.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I am 1,000% buying Oppenheimer. Yep. My wife recently was watching the Hunger Games movies on streaming. And she was watching Catching Fire specifically. And I told her, it doesn't have the IMAX ratio. She didn't know what I was talking about because she didn't watch it in an IMAX. And for a lot of people, what they don't know is that in the first part of Hunger Games catching fire, it is shot regularly. And then after, if you haven't seen it, a death happens.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And then when she enters the Hunger Games, it transitions into the IMAX format. and the entire Hunger Game sequence is an IMAX format. They shot it with IMAX cameras, the way how, if you see a Nolan film, like an Oppaheim or something, how they shot it with IMAX cameras. And it translates on Blu-ray,
Starting point is 00:34:20 but it does not translate, but they don't do that for streaming conversion. And I can't imagine that Max is going to do that, oh, not Max, Peacock, right? I can't imagine Peacock would do that. I mean, they'd be smart to, but I don't think they will do that for Oppenheimer. I know Disney Plus does their like IMAX conversion thing and sometimes it looks a little off.
Starting point is 00:34:40 But I think the way to get it in the form that Nolan would want is it won't happen via streaming. It'll happen via physical media. So yeah, a thousand percent will be buying Oppenheimer on physical media. Admittedly, I don't buy enough physical media. I am a negative contributor to that. John's definitely more of a contributor to physical media more than I am. I mean, I used to buy more stuff that I just liked. I have since paired down to, like, if I love this or this is an important film to me,
Starting point is 00:35:09 then I'm going to definitely buy a physical copy. Oppenheimer would certainly be included in that. And I do think that, like, it's weird. I get how and why a best buy isn't stocking home videos or Blu-rays or whatever it is now, or is going to stop. But I don't know. It does seem, as much as there's always the march of time in progress, I do think losing physical media is a bit of an actual issue.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I know if some people are like, you know who cares like streaming is so convenient but like there are films that were shot on film that have been lost to time and that will never be returned to us and so yeah I mean I think what Guillermo del Toro is saying is kind of true
Starting point is 00:35:49 like in a way even though it's just a little Blu-ray copy or whatever you are like the custodian of this and there might be time when nothing on the internet carries it any longer and you've got it. Yeah very true I very much support the physical media. Appreciate the inquiry I holy shit just
Starting point is 00:36:05 That is an extremely generous super chat. Thank you so much. I wish we still had the ham horn. Happy Thanksgiving to you, Jesse Ketrel. Jesse is asking, I think they redirect and shift back to Sydney's story. Bring back Stu and maybe he has a son could have his real face, extremely messed up from the TV falling on them and love what you all do. Keep it coming.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Honestly, I think that's what they're going to try to do to save face. I feel like I think if they're going to force that in here, I think it's only a matter of time before the first. filmmakers leave the franchise themselves and they get new directors. Yeah, and then you also have to count on the stars that they want to get back not sharing these sentiments with Melissa Barrera.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Exactly, exactly. Because, you know, speaking of Melissa Barrera, that cast really does, is something that Chris, on 3C did remind me of is you do often would see them, they are a cast that hangs out. It's something I always wonder about casts. You know, I haven't seen modern family,
Starting point is 00:37:01 but I was playing at the gym, and I saw Ed O'Neill on there, and it did make me think, does he ever keep in touch with, like, the other cast members of married with children? You know? He and Sophia Vergara hang out for sure. That's, well, that's the, that's modern family, yeah. Him and Katie Seagall would hang out for sure. So I was curious about that.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And you do see that with the cast of Scream, this new crew. And I don't even think you really saw that with the original cast, right? Because this is one where this cast seems to keep carrying on. And now I think this seems like they might do a rise of. Skywalker situation or they're like people are upset with our franchise we need to nostalgia bait them in there let's get Neff campbell back like let's get stew in let's bring that theory to life let's do everything we can every weird fan theory and make it real and it seems like the filmmakers behind there they they wanted they had a very
Starting point is 00:37:57 specific direction of what they were doing with their story with their characters they were telling at the end of the day a character driven narrative that had the thrills and everything like that. And I can't imagine that if the studio's like, no, you've got to start doing this shit now, that they're going to want to stay by. And then we'll know the franchise is really
Starting point is 00:38:16 going down the shitter. Yeah. I'm really concerned about the franchise, really. I really think it'll be a nostalgia bait franchise at this point. Well, yeah, and I mean, at least for the people paying attention, it's going to be real weird to interact with whatsoever because you know
Starting point is 00:38:32 that they're just going to be trying to angle you to forget about the real world. Yeah. So, and hey, you know, I love movies, we all love movies, but real life is more important than movies, so... That depends. My escapism is often the thing that saves me, John.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just my take, but hey, that's just me. You should always be in a state of escape, you know, never acknowledge reality. Yeah, yeah. Never contend with the harshness of, you know, carrying two ideas in mind at once. In the chat, yes, I am excited for Shelby. Oaks did a whole video about it like when he first announced it and I am one of his
Starting point is 00:39:08 Kickstarter supporters but thank you Jesse that is a that is a very very generous super chat thank you very much really stands out amongst the crowd even if I got a shout out loud tonight is the only goofy movie yeah come on man power line love it Dart car with a wow thank you thank you dark car thank you Kevin Frazier with this with this LinkedIn profile Dude, nah, that's a great. Thanks for everything. Oh, man, look at that.
Starting point is 00:39:39 You look, I want, I don't know, whatever you're selling, I'm buying it. I love it. I love the look of it, my friend. Bring it. Bring it to me. Ian Blosh. Hey, buddy, good to see you. Hey, Greg, missed you last stream, but, hey, me and the fans really do appreciate what you do for us.
Starting point is 00:39:53 You bring joy to my days with each upload. Thank you. Thank you. And really, sorry that your contributions just didn't come through last time. feel real bad about, I mean, you know. Leon's always here, and I appreciate you always being here. And with it being Thanksgiving, I want to say thank you to everyone who has been given to the super chats. But everyone who's just here right now chiming in in the chat, there's a lot of names that I'm recognizing here that are usually just here.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Again, if you can't contribute it, that's Taylor OK. Like just seeing like even Richard Lloyd right now, who's, well, let me just make sure the chat's still going. But yeah, there's so many people here who I love seeing that he's just on a random Wednesday that we're doing. It's like so impromptu. Oh, Wednesday, get it. Wednesday, Adam. And where are we at? Okay, 3C films.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Let's see what he said. All right. I am pissed. Oh, love this franchise, and I just don't see how they can get fans excited again. I don't even think Stu returning would save it for me. Well, because now it's like, yeah, it's going to be all shameless attempts at making you just, like,
Starting point is 00:41:00 overlook past what they did. They're just going to try and give you as much candy and gifts as possible until you're just like, I don't care. And I mean, you know, in a post-Ezra Miller flash world, there's a solid chance it might work for a lot of people, but I would agree. You know, whatever they're going
Starting point is 00:41:16 to bring us now, I am going to be... Did that flash work for people? The movie itself didn't work for people, but everybody still went and saw it to get that opinion. And I mean, granted... Everybody went and saw it. That's fair. They did not. But I feel.
Starting point is 00:41:32 feel like there are different reasons for everybody not going to see it than people caring that Ezra Miller is in it. I feel like a lot of people didn't care about the movie at all. So that's probably why that happened. Well, you see, like, that's the thing about, that's the thing, like what 3C is bringing up right now, Chris, is bringing up about Stu returning and all that. Unlike a lot of other horror movie franchises, I can't say it's applicable for all of them. Okay, you can theoretically do a Halloween franchise without Laurie Strode
Starting point is 00:42:08 as long as you get Michael Myers back, right? Technically, you are correct. Technically, yes, and I think you can still make... People love Part 3, but yes. Well, I mean, I think four and five were still... Four was really liked, and then there was not Laurie Strode in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have your icon, you need your icon.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Nightmare and Elm Street franchise. You mainly just need Freddie Kruger, the Friday the 13th franchise. You mainly just need Jason. scream is this interesting franchise because so much about it is not just you need someone in a ghost face mask because so much of it rides on who's the killer who's behind the mask and what's made the franchise great
Starting point is 00:42:46 is a lot of those movies you get invested in the characters themselves and that's why this is so upsetting because we have gotten invested in the characters and watching their trajectory and it I think that's one of things that really distinct and it's also an ensemble piece
Starting point is 00:43:05 and I think that's one of things that distinguishes scream from many other horror movie franchises because you can't just have ghostface be in there and stabbing people. You can but then you just got a schlocky film. Yeah and we're still currently on a timeline where we are keeping everything in continuity so you know yeah it's the growth
Starting point is 00:43:26 of the Sydney Prescott story into the extended family into the carpenters and how they relate back to Billy Loom is also so like yeah i feel like at this point you would need to do a full-ass reboot because like what do you need what are the nuts and bolts if you jump out of the character continuity ghost ghost case could be an actual ghost that's a funny comment i'm excited to get silly with it like sadly like yeah part of me is like okay so you reboot ghost face what do you need you need the mask you need the knife and you need just meta horror movie commentary. So like, it's not impossible. People really like to show, or at least it's got a cult following. So it's like, my lowest concern is like them salvaging. Like they could find something
Starting point is 00:44:08 to do with it. And hey, they might even find a neat part of me is like as much as I would only want to continue this continuity, especially again after as of Scream 6, really coming to enjoy our core four. You know, I think the only way this works without them is if you just completely reset everything. Right. Right. Right. Right. And then. And it's going to be the same problem. It's going to be like, but you're still the people who, with the Melissa Barreira, I think, no. Nash, we talked about Jenna Ortega right at the top. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But welcome back. Good to see you. Let's see here. Gary. Thank you so much, Gary. Get her. I would lose respect if Nev took the role now. That's the other problem.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I don't think it's a good look now. She took the role. Especially right now. And, I mean, and, you know, then that also just says like some icky financial stuff about like, well, now that you lost your two main stars in General Ortega is going to be much more expensive than ever before. Hey, he can afford every year. You know, it's kind of tacky. TVH.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And, like, you know, I doubt Matthew Lillard needs it because he's got five nights now and other things. And, I mean, you know, the Scream team does fine on the convention circuit as well. I feel like the original Screamcast is, like, much more camaraderie because of conventions than, like, being on the actual movies. Yeah, yeah. And they can, you know, continue that wave for the end of time, you know. It just did not end. No, it's clearly supposed to continue. It would be so strange.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And after the really satisfying, like, real-life arc of, like, oh, this performance has gotten night and day better from five to six. Now I really want to see how this culminates with her character. Like, this is the thing is they made me care about these characters. They made me care about her. They made me, it was a perfect blending of performance, and they wrote for it, and you could tell the filmmakers were writing real-life response. It was so vital.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And now, yeah, and now it's just a bummer. It's just like you cut the pulse entirely. And unless they can find some real weird way to sort this all out, you know, I don't... Hey, Omni. I'm always going to be thinking about what we would have missed, especially because it's like a pretty compelling idea that maybe she'll become a ghost phase of some kind, you know? All righty, so where are we at here?
Starting point is 00:46:26 That's the same. Thank you, Ryan Platz, for your super chat, my friend. Now they're saying Jenna couldn't do it because of scheduling conflicts. Yeah, okay. Yeah, we talked about this earlier in chat, and I don't think, I feel like there's way more to it than that. It just, I feel like they could have made it for it. I don't think they. I think they would have made it.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It's Jenna Ortega. It's freaking. She is so famous. They would have made it. They would have undoubtedly been by. Your cap, yeah. Well, we've got to find a way to make this work around her schedule. And they undoubtedly would have.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And they already said her role was going to be a little smaller already. Sure. That they would have found the time to make it work. Fitting her in for Scream is not the same as fitting her in. I know it's complicated. They shoot in different areas. And when they shoot for Wednesday, Wednesday's an entire season of television that she has to prepare for. Not to mention, not to forget, like, she probably has other things outside of Wednesday as well that she's booked to do.
Starting point is 00:47:24 but scream they would they yeah it's a really it's a really I am just playing it's just conjecture to this point like I'm I'm just believing something that is not confirmed it just it's the timing for me for the very
Starting point is 00:47:39 following morning to be like oh hey we worked this out before the strike and stuff but today we're going to announce that she's leaving well Omni in the chat can you read that there was a new update about why Jenna left she asked her agent to end her see that makes a lot more sense like because again she is documented as as sharing similar beliefs to Melissa Barrera so I would absolutely she seems exactly like the kind of person who would out of solidarity just walk because she doesn't need scream now she can do whatever she wants like she's on top of the world and she's got a show in Wednesday that she's got like creative sway over to and like I don't know her obviously we don't none of us most of us 99.9% of us don't know her person don't know her person
Starting point is 00:48:24 What you can gather of her personality type on interviews is she would be the kind of individual. At least this is just the way her personality conveys it interviews to be like. Yeah, I don't want to be here anymore. Yeah, she doesn't seem like the type to countow or to play ball with this. Flicking real. Flicking real. You guys, thank you for the super chat. You guys see Noah Schnapp saying Zionism is sexy.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Wow, that's a subject. Yeah, people, it is interesting how. when did he say this because it is an unfortunate situation for that individual but it seems like he said this a while ago there's like a TikTok video I saw like a few weeks ago I think
Starting point is 00:49:07 so it was several weeks ago and then now it's of course right to the service because there was no punishment or consequences for him having his political point of view put out there yeah people online have been upset about it but there's been no official to my knowledge no official addressing of it it's just he's out there on the internet
Starting point is 00:49:23 you know in this video well the the interesting thing about to bring it back to what Melissa Barrera's actually arguing for at least the way her sentiments seem to be most explicitly expressed I feel like it's just given more voice to that yeah because now her losing her job and just damaging her career in total like as much as there's this online support around her still it's an industry thing like just Online support does not equate to. Oh, that means she's going to get booked up now because the online support does not equate to that. Well, yeah, and I imagine a lot of the money people are probably sitting around going like, well, what don't we do?
Starting point is 00:50:03 Because then if we hire her, we're making a direct statement about our ideology now. Exactly. And it creates a whole other conversation. And so I think, though, the message she was ultimately trying to convey that voice for that is now just gotten stronger. so in a lot of ways it's to her benefit for what she's really fighting for and otherwise is really bad
Starting point is 00:50:30 because it really damages her career and it's not fair I think in the longer run she'll hopefully be all right I mean I think like she really did level up just as an actor in that Scream Six movie so like I feel like as you know how whatever
Starting point is 00:50:46 version of this simmering down here in the States is I think she'll ultimately be okay and I do appreciate her philosophy of like I'd rather be remembered for the people I include than the ones I exclude. You know, I think that's a good thing. But yeah, it's like Jenna Ortega can afford to walk because she's got the world at her fingertips. Is this true? Radio Silence, Thelis Melissa, in their next movie? Oh, damn. Oh, that would make sense. I mean, sure. Yeah. That's great. And I mean, you know, Chris Landon is doing Scream 8, so it's not like they were, you know, involved with this decision. I don't think at all. So, yeah, and I'm happy that they seem to have her back. And they certainly seem to in just the writing.
Starting point is 00:51:23 of Scream 6. And people have said, I don't think Noishnapp literally said the word Zionism is sexy. I think he's seen in a video with a number of people and they're all,
Starting point is 00:51:35 yeah, there are stickers on the video and there are people like showing each other content kind of mocking the non-Israel side of things, basically. I mean, the problem is a lot of time. And like, I've definitely in the past, I've been guilty of it myself.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I'm not going to act like I've never made a mistake myself of like uh you know you get you get a barrage of things you get an immediate heat of an emotion of the moment of your surroundings whether it be your algorithm or the people in your circle you post something because you're feeling the passion that fervor for right there in that moment and then you realize oh shit i shouldn't have posted that i actually don't know enough i didn't actually know the whole context i was waiting into you and i've i've definitely been guilty of making that mistake in my life before same and sometimes i think celebrities did like they really make that mistake a lot we're like I actually don't know
Starting point is 00:52:30 I got I got caught him in the moment and maybe I shouldn't have done that yeah it's not just going to be a couple friends or maybe a few random people who exactly it's going to be the news cycle and the producer like a whole bunch people who are going to check you now we're just like campia that's what I like to hear yes our first topic today we're yelling at the camera yeah uh richie brash this is a wait no i missed one i missed one joe if i wonder that's a great comment oh man a teaser there joe keef that's such a funny comment joe keef oh let me show you i miss this um shouts out to jesse over flicking real joe keef loving the live stream we could just read it right here i don't know what we're doing
Starting point is 00:53:18 because it's just bigger and more appealing on the other screen but yes it's much more Engaging to the crowd. Loving, why don't you sit a little closer to me, John? We are going to get a new table so we can... We're going to get such a long table. Especially on days like this, man. They've got to make tables that just float. That's the future invention I need.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Loving the live streams recently, gents. Thank you, Joe O'Kee. You, ye are an absolute joy when life is bright and abound when things appear, dark and murky. Keep the fief. Love you, too. That was a lot of accents. We love you, buddy.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah, and I'm glad, hey, if we can bring you a little light in the dark or just hang out and make you feel, you know, tended to, I'm glad for that. Superman Legacy Cast does look good. We will get to it. There will be. There will be other topics we get to. There will be lighter topics. We know how these streams go.
Starting point is 00:54:10 We tend to spend forever on one topic, and then eventually we move on to a variety. It's the way these streams always go. Yeah. We will get there. Yeah, originally we were leading with three separate ones, And then we were like, hey, there's one that we feel the most, most top, topical about right now. Yeah. But thank you.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I haven't seen that board pick up to Beyond the Spider-Verse. But again, thank you for being here. Like, it's one of those, you know, like this channel is our lives in many ways. It's like all my life, you know. And it's just so on the go. And it's been like the most successful year for real reject. ever and then like the way the channel has so I'm really thankful for everyone who's stuck around with us and has watched the channel diversify itself with not just only covering call-book movies and like
Starting point is 00:55:03 branching out into like other genres again and then bringing on other hosts and everything like that and specifically the kind of stuff that we primarily do while keeping in the reaction terrain but how we formulate the videos now and appreciate it it's become our most successful year and it's really cool to see and then funny enough it is one of those in the past week within seven day five days five days it became like oh this is actually the lowest amount of views we've ever got it on the channel all year
Starting point is 00:55:29 and because I'm constantly studying the analytics and I get upset I get obsessed I'm upset and I will get upset when I'm just like it's slow and and it's just what's really interesting is like coming back here and just even just seeing just like chat like seeing Aisha show up in the chat
Starting point is 00:55:45 I'm watching Tori Sloth I don't believe in that comment I don't know Kanye was right about which Just James. I come. Kanye was right about not the Taylor Swift thing. That's what he's talking about, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 He did have one of the best music videos. I'm still upset about that. I'm still upset about that. Don't worry. He's in a tent in Saudi Arabia recording music. He's going to change their lives. I had a second where I had to go, wait a minute. I don't recognize that name.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Let me see what he said. Yeah, he does it with Jewish women, so he's not anti-Sinadad. But Wana PV, thank you. M.R.D. so my point, and my point is that but being seen a lot of you familiar faces here has reminded me again of like, you know what, this, I've, I am really grateful for just having the support. Even when I was like at the, I was like exercising day. I was looking at some
Starting point is 00:56:32 other numbers and I was going, you know what? Even though it's been the, the least performing week we've had all year, it's still better than other years we've had. And we're still getting like these like residual views on other videos that are older. And I'm like, that's really cool. We didn't used to get that. So I'm really grateful for everyone. here and even people just randomly showing up because like our live streams don't get that many views like our live streams are not like the most like you can go to channels with much smaller
Starting point is 00:56:59 subscriber accounts and they'll get like 5,000 people watching all the time and so we we'd like to just be a very relaxed version on these streams let's one Koi's here when he's just like fuck on what did you say I hate you can I start beef with free
Starting point is 00:57:15 Gojira 1000% Oh minus one so excited I'm gonna show John a video on my phone oh good and maybe i can figure out how to put it on the live stream i made this last night okay we're going to get john's reaction to this video i made okay i think we can put it in i'm pretty sure i don't know if we can hear oh no i know how we i just want you to watch it yourself i made two versions john okay um we'll call this one the original version and then we're going to show you Then I'm going to see if there's a way I can air drop it and then show you guys on the stream.
Starting point is 00:57:54 But first I want to see if it's worthy. Oh, thanks for binging the old video. What have we got? Yeah, I mean, there's a whole like algorithm thing to it. When you start like doing something that is a low performing thing, then it affects your next uploads. And because the algorithm is like the fucking, it's so bizarre. Then you're like, oh, crap, now I'm stuck with this show that has low performing views. but we've got to finish it
Starting point is 00:58:19 and then it affects like your next uploads and it's this whole process of shit of like studying the algorithm of stuff. But hold on a sec. I will bring back those super chat custom audio drops. I just want to show John John. John can you hear? You can't hear it. I can't hear it.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Let's do this. Listen, listen. Ah! All right. extended version of it is Watson. Yes, yes. I mean, that is part of Watson's personnel. It's a perfect blending of like, if you know this cat.
Starting point is 00:59:10 If you go to, I mean, Olivia put it on her, on her TikTok. Oh, that's beautiful. I basically took my cat and I blended it with the Godzilla sounds. Yeah. Anyway, Richie Brash's comments fucking hilarious guys. Richie, who is a stand-of-comic has made a hilarious comment. Now General Ortega's schedule is open to play Silver Surfer.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Well, this gives us a chance to talk about the Silver Surfer thing. Oh, yes, goody. Did you hear the rumors, John? Yeah. Silver Surfer's female. M.C.U in full force. Man, women can't surf. What?
Starting point is 00:59:46 What are they going to do? I mean my penis. You say, I need to know that this guy's got a bulge that I can stare at instead of other things to, you know, smooth out Ken's style and stare. I'm not saying that I need Silver Surfer to be a man. I'm saying it doesn't really bother me right now. Like, I'm not here to say, oh, yeah, thousand percent. Let's go woman on Silver Surfer.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I'm not going to say that. her hair. I really just I guess I don't care I don't really care if the Silver Surfer's like of all characters I don't know I don't let me just clarify I don't know Silver Surfer
Starting point is 01:00:32 well enough from comics material of course I've read some comics where Silver Surfer is there but I could see Silver Surfer totally being that's the thing is like to me it's kind of like the ancient one I could see Silver Surfer totally being female and
Starting point is 01:00:47 not upsetting me. Granted, the association is very much male physique. Yeah, it's as you're used to seeing, yeah, like literally the male physique on full display with, like, just the genitals removed. What Rye Elliott is saying in the chat, fairness of a serpent doesn't really have gender rule.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah, it doesn't seem, you're just a herald of Galactus, right? So, like, it doesn't really seem like it would mat. It's the irony of, I'm so aware of the male physique tied to this character because the silver body paint is the costume, you know, silver skin is the costume. I don't really, I just don't really give her. Yeah, I don't care. Like, it's fine. Just maybe don't give her hair. Just like, you know, keep it, keep it that, like, super smoothed out thing, you know, and it's fine.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Who cares? Joey. That would be funny. I think it would be really funny, though, yeah. If the degenerating, it just hopped over there. Get Melissa Barrera to be the silver server. Who cares? Joey Radstone. Thank you, Joey. We do got to get to streamlapse. I know we got a couple there.
Starting point is 01:01:47 oh jeanine trust me if anyone's over the term woke it's not you my black female friend it's i just feel so bad because like before all this nonsense like it's a good term i like i like the term in its in its plato's perfect heaven form it's just now it's the tone and now the world is taking all the joy and all the meaning out of it and now i'm just
Starting point is 01:02:09 yeah it's not at all what it means what it actually as a white man i lament the downfall of the term Yeah, let me tell the, like, Aisha Kay, let me tell the black women in the chat. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. Who don't get told.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Well, actually what it means now? I'm just, you know. How it's been taken away. It was so nice to be included in the moment. Let me tell you. And then my people took it and screwed it up for everyone. Sorry on behalf of all of us crackers. Joey.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Joey rats, so it says. do you guys it's not woke to be woke anymore do you guys do you guys think they find a new word to get mad at um do you guys think do you guys thinking they will continue with scream seven and rewrite it or scrap it altogether if they can't have net back thanks for being cool i thousand percent think they are going to i mean they have to rewrite it i don't think they can just recast it who's going to no one is going to play them both who's going to want that burden oh my god i'm going to play the sisters don't
Starting point is 01:03:16 take on that burden of what actor's going to want to do that like you got to think long term about your decisions you really have to think long term about it if you take on that role sure do you get the money for it absolutely or do you get a chance to be in the screen franchise absolutely but man the backlash you will get and the disdain you get from public discourse that's what you got you got to consider both of those it's like being a scab but like times 10 you know It's like, oh, this was like a messed up human situation that now you're, you know, coming in and capitalizing. Sure, sure, yeah. I agree. I agree, John. I feel like they're going to, I don't think they're going to scrap it ever. I think their best bet after this is just to reboot because money will dictate that, like, the scream nuts and bolts can go forever, you know. Raccoon Shampoo, what up, buddy?
Starting point is 01:04:11 Good to see you again. Did you guys watch Grand Turismo? What were your thoughts? Love that Neil Blum. I haven't seen it. We have not seen Grand Turismo. No. John refused to go.
Starting point is 01:04:23 That's right. I don't support the auto industry. Yeah. They're polluting our earth. If it was an electric car, Grand Turismo, maybe. But even that's problematic. No, I would like to see it. Some people would argue.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Well, because you're still using electricity that is generated from somewhere that still contributes to, anyway. Two of the people. There's no way to exist. Two of the people closest in my... The thing is, one thing I've been trying to encourage is having conversations with people you don't share the same point of views with
Starting point is 01:04:56 or agree with on political... It's not how we progress a society, Greg. That's how some people apparently feel. My neighbors, these two guys, Mary couple, most macho men you'll ever meet. They're always out front benching each other. They have built the house they have with their bare hands.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Lizzo is Silver Surfer. I'm with it. They always happen, but at the same time, they're two of the close people in my life. I identify as liberal. They, Republican. We get along fantastically, and we just know how to, like,
Starting point is 01:05:37 give each other shit about our different point of view in ways that do not get heated, you know? You brought the car. Like, I want an electric car. Yeah. They will fight. Toot the Dale why that is not a good idea. Sure, they know. Of course they got all the evidence.
Starting point is 01:05:51 It's always my friends who are like, Republican leading. Read this report from Halliburton. How that's actually really damaging the environment. I'm like, yeah, but I won't save my gas money. Get a hydrogen car, Greg. Then you'll just spit out water and be a danger of exploding. I think it's good. So here, I'm like, there's ways to have the conversations where you can disagree
Starting point is 01:06:11 where it doesn't have to get heated. And where you can only say that reminding me about like every time I can't bring that up. They're always, like, fixing their fucking. They have, like, four cars, and they've got, like, an RV that's, like, a really fancy one. They're fucking fixing it up all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:26 And they got the hot rod. Yeah, they got, like, really nice-ass cars. And I'm, I got a car that just gets me places, you know? I don't really give a shit about cars. I used to, and now I'm just, like, as long as it still works. It just reminded me, like, oh, yeah, yeah, you know, is with the comment you made. Anyway, hey, guys. Sidra Zaidi
Starting point is 01:06:46 This is the most lackadaisical They're gay and Republican No Some people have a hard time wrapping their head around it But yeah, they are I was going to say how many How many asteris Like our neighborhood is mainly
Starting point is 01:07:00 Like there's a mix I noticed in our neighborhood It's mainly gay Republicans It's mainly gay Republicans It's really odd shoot of just this one strip Yep It's the only Heteroliberal House of the neighborhood For the odd ones out
Starting point is 01:07:13 over to the heterosexual couple in the neighbor. Yeah. So, but they, they're not like the ones who will apprais they, they are, like so much of our friends in this neighbor, they're all, like, we
Starting point is 01:07:26 know how to have like a conversation. It's like so great to have that diversity there. What gets more diverse than gay Republicans? What gets more diverse? I know. That's the true mark of progress. MC NoLite, is that you? There's this notice that it's your 10th super. We're going to get to it later, but, but,
Starting point is 01:07:43 If that's yours, thank you. And congratulations on this momentous milestone. John, we're not going to film the last couple episodes of Scott Pilgrim today. We're just going to be on the stream all day. I would love to be on an all day on the stream. It does. Sidra Zadie. Oh, I heard about this.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I heard about this. I heard about this a long time ago. I saw this come up and was like, oh. This was one of those things that Greg had some inside knowledge on prior to any reports ever coming out that I just had to keep my mouth shut about. And now now it's out for the public. I was surprised they did like a whole video
Starting point is 01:08:21 together. Did you hear that Ralph Machio and Jackie Chan doing a karate can move together and looking for the next karate kid? I did not know they were going to do that path. This sounds like a reality show. Yeah. That's nutty to get the, because I heard
Starting point is 01:08:39 about the, I mean, yeah, we all heard a while ago that there were the rumors, but I heard before the rumors came out that was like one of the things like oh i know something but i can't say anything oh man can't even speculate why can't i be one of those leak channels yeah yeah yeah but it would be it was it's interesting to have to really have a piece of knowledge on my hands yeah not say anything about it you did good you did good i couldn't even like hint at it this will prove you trustworthy in the future. It wasn't 100% confirmed
Starting point is 01:09:10 that they were going to do it, but yeah, now they've made it clear. But the fact that they're doing the next Karate Kid and they're going to be casting, I guess that's an interesting way to get hype around it. I'm still not really that interested in the film. I'm not going to lie. Jennifer would take a next Karate Kid.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Let it make it happen. I'm not that interested in this next Karate Kid movie, regardless of this. I think the interest that people have is, you know, seeing Ralph Machio and Jackie Chan together. I don't even feel like they're probably going to be the main stars of the film. No, he's going to train Ralph Machio, Jackie Chan.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I think what they're doing is they're setting... Yeah. He's got it. I think they're setting up people for the Kung Fu Kit. A terrible expectation here. That they think it's going to be Jackie Chan and Ralph Machio starring side by side together. I don't know what the film's going to be.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I don't expect it to be that, though, where it's going to be them side by side for most of the film. I think they're going to be like glorified, extended cameos. I don't think they'll be the actual stars of it, but they're throwing their hand them to show support because there's already a backlash around this film prior to
Starting point is 01:10:13 this happening, so I think this helps change the optics around it. I think it's a great marketing strategy. Yes. And then looking for the next karate kid, man, I don't know why they would open themselves up to that. That audition process is going to be a nightmare
Starting point is 01:10:29 in the making. Yes. Willow Smith can play the next karate kid. Oh my God? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, are you guys excited for the next Karate Kid movie? It is an interesting toss. I'm just not. I'm not. I don't know. I haven't actually seen the Jackie Chan one, but it's weird. It's like it's...
Starting point is 01:10:48 You haven't seen the Jackie Chan. I like, that's the weird part for me. I really like the Jackie Chan when no one likes that Jackie Chan. And I like that one. I think that's what a Jackie Chan's best American performances. Sure. An American performance A performance in an American role You know what I'm trying to say American film, God damn it
Starting point is 01:11:09 But yeah, I don't No one's through to the chat No one's really excited for it But Cobra Kai has more magic than this prospect does Because it's the diminishing returns We still have Ralph Machio People like Jackie Chan
Starting point is 01:11:26 But it's just Like right now the prospect is just the two of them, which is like how did they, yeah, it's like how did they coalesce? What would their you know, what would their relationship be? What would be the driving thrust of their thing together? And like,
Starting point is 01:11:41 I don't know. Wasn't even karate in the Jackie show. It's kung fu. And that's the tribute to, you know, I think they considered calling the original one like the Kung Fu Kid or whatever, or they tried to rename that one, the Kung Fu Kid or something. But yeah, I don't know. Like, it seems like they're missing beats or elements or something.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Foreigners. Oh, yeah, oh, I know. The foreigners probably. It was best, best, um, yeah, yeah, I like that movie. That is a good one. Um, but I, I, I, well, you see, we see, we just know it would essentially be a remake and not really, and the Cobra Kai people aren't involved in it. And what Cobra Kai has shown us is how you can truly take the evolution of the karate kid world and make it something that vehemently honors the original source material whilst taking it in a direction that's unexpected.
Starting point is 01:12:30 innovative but still keeping what you love about it without getting it in terrain where you're like fuck this show you know and and and you just know that the movie's probably going to be some like remake bullshit that you don't really want to sit through and the prospect of them i want to know what this means looking for the new karate kid because i don't know i don't know i i'm sure they can come up with something that works but like for these two characters i don't really know why they would be like, we just got to get out here and find a new kid. I feel like it would need for like Danny Laruso, as we
Starting point is 01:13:04 have seen, it would have to come from some kind of really personal motivation of like, oh, my family or something like that. I feel like Cobra Kai is just so fleshed out that I'm not sure what this would serve a purpose of. I know this is the most cliche answer you can give for something like this.
Starting point is 01:13:20 When I first heard about the prospect of them doing this, I was like, if you're going to do this, I think the best way to do it is take a Phil Lord Chris Miller approach. where you just do something that's very meta and self-aware because you've got to do something that distinguishes it from just being some remake, some generic-ass remake. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:39 And the answer is not just combining someone who apparently across the country had the exact same story just for Kung Fu. Yeah, totally. Because then what are you going to do? Another one where it's some other bullshit. What's going on, John? Somebody just sent there first.
Starting point is 01:13:54 So I just wanted to acknowledge them really quick. Go Nation. first live stream Super chat. Thank you so much. It's throwing these miles down to you. Just interrupt me. We could be like the fucking brothers who may talk to me. All right. Oh, yeah. We'll be a Danny and Michael Phillip.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Stop that. Heather Gear. Heather Gear! Super sexy reject, Heather gear. Thank you. I appreciate the people saying I made a great point. One of the few great points I made. You won. I've had a couple years to think of
Starting point is 01:14:24 You didn't have a take on this. It would be very disappointed. Heather, dear, thank you for you awesome guys this holiday season. Thank you. You awesome. We're thankful for you. For you, Heather, for being in our life, our Patreon, and constantly in our comments. Love you so much.
Starting point is 01:14:44 John. Yes. John. Hey. I see the trajectory of the stream. It's a topic scream. Topic scream. Topic scream.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Topic scream. Yeah, that makes sense. We got to break it up. John. Coy is busy ranting at somebody on Twitter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Coy is busy going to Spy Glass Entertainment right now and laying down some harsh words. Brian Vickpor. Take it away, John.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Maybe. Just hear me out and thank you for your contribution. Maybe bring back stew in a Freddie Kruger type disfigurement
Starting point is 01:15:15 in homage to Craven's new nightmare. But use Ghostface Stu as the children's scary story. Five nights at Ghostface. I think
Starting point is 01:15:24 we should do this. You know, the idea is going to have the same response for me. It's like, they could do that, but on this timeline, it's going to be real conflicting, and I don't think it's going to work. I don't think it would make any sense for him to come back at this point. No, and it wouldn't pack the fun punch because we just know it's like dumping sugar on a wound. I think you get into Saw movie territory at that point. Which is.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Where it's just like, oh my God, like, Stu would have to have been like a mastermind. A, a mastermind, that's one direction, or someone who has been, like, kept trapped and tortured by some other... He's been gestating. By ghost's face is living in a hole somewhere. Like Donnie Wahlberg. Insaw. Yeah, we're Donnie Wahlberg and Saw. We're just like, fuck, this guy's still just strapped.
Starting point is 01:16:14 He's just two movies later. He's on an ice break. He's got a big beard down. He's a poor guy. Yeah. Keep it this guy hostage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Oh, we could do Rush Hour together. I like that idea, Jack. I watch Rush Hour now. I saw this great video that was talking about the death of comedy movies. That is an interesting topic that we don't have time. But Rush Hour is like PG-13, but you watch it now, and you're like, we should it get people canceled now? It's a very offensive and stereotype movie.
Starting point is 01:16:48 A lot of stereotypes. A lot of creep in, especially on. on, you know, women and stuff. It's definitely, it's, yeah, going back for certain movies really is like an interesting exercise because, yeah, rush hour, you're like, oh, this is definitely of its time. I watched, I rewatched the Italian job a few months ago, the Mark Wahlberg one, and that one is like,
Starting point is 01:17:07 this is a really fun heist movie, but like, oh, my God, all the character interactions have not aged flatteringly at all. It's all creepy, and they're all talking down to Charlie's there. Josh Runyon, thank you for the Super Chat, my friend. Crazy that Petermont decided to end the franchise at 6, but hey, why not go out with a bang? I know? Bold move.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Yeah, man. Subverting expectations. Why don't we have a hit with a cliffhanger? Yes, and just never answer it. End that shit. Be a legend for all time. People still wonder what happened to Ghostface. They could just do it virally, you know, just do it as like a viral creepy pasta from that one.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Dead shot. Never miss. This is a very stupid decision from. spyglass they need to pull a Diddley and hire a Disney and hire them back even if it's to finish the trilogy they would have to do it with like an immense helping of like crow or something some kind of weird atonement of like hey we were a bit hasty sorry there's a way where you can do I mean Disney brought back James gone and they still made an amazing ass guardians film you know and first super chat first somebody else oh thank you so much at the end of the day it's about trying to Look, John, I've been holding in the bathroom since I started. Hold the whole bathroom. All the fixtures are like, yeah, go now. The water's going to explode at the tap.
Starting point is 01:18:33 The toilet's going to guise her into the ceiling. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go while there's still time. I can't take a shit under these conditions. It's okay. I can hang out with the chat for a few minutes. I mean, I figure what we can do.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I mean, this is not the, like, this is a refresher, but at the same time, I know. that the stream labs thing needs to be made. Oh, I can build the stream labs in awkward silence while you're away. I think John will know how to talk with the chat whilst building a stream labs thing so that way we can read the stream lab. And yeah, I think you got this, John. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Thanks, man. I appreciate this vote of confidence. I don't know what to expect right now. You're going to do great in there, though. Everybody, I want you, everyone, leave your words of encouragement for, Don't touch my ice pack. I won't. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:19:25 It's been on your, it's been on you for this entire time. Hey guys. All right. Now that Greg is gone. Talk as much shit as you want as, yes, Greg's urethra. My narrow urethra. That's, yeah, that's what I think of when I see that. Just to pull a who shot JR or a saint elsewhere.
Starting point is 01:19:45 The events after screen one were all a dream. Ooh, that would, that would really pissing people off. That would be interesting. Yes, Greg can do it. We believe in Greg. Yes, dropping the Browns at the Super Bowl. Haven't heard that in a minute. I should get to building this.
Starting point is 01:20:02 And yes, screw calling Twitter. Does anybody call Twitter X? If you refer to Twitter as X, comment below and tell me why you do so. No, Greg is, you can never smell, Greg. You don't understand. It's some kind of alchemical thing he does. were just like you can't perceive him unless he wants you have you ever seen hunter hunter it's like
Starting point is 01:20:24 that he can just like you know control his nen anthony alba uh is fine you know uh transformers rise of the beast was a very fun movie liked it more than i was expecting to and yes gregg is secretly going to taco bell he's gonna do do it i like these comments very much and yes he is fighting a war it is like a transformers movie in that uh regard oh hey There's another big old graphic for you guys as I build out this live stream into something even more advanced. Yes, X does sound a bit adult, no doubt, you know, which I'm sure is what Elon intended, certainly. I mean, you know, if there's a guy who appreciates, you know, some ludes, it's Elon. I don't know how people feel about Elon, but.
Starting point is 01:21:20 you know we all uh we all yeah anyway gregg's coming back um he didn't drop the bomb i don't think sadly do you realize it's been like a giant week of a lot of greg and john hasn't been like that all year i know so many other people and yet it's our lowest viewed week people don't like us anymore john people don't like us together anymore i don't know what's happening here okay we're going to do a couple little crop of Crop of tops. Oh, no. I hate when things move when I don't.
Starting point is 01:21:53 John who remains. John is a little tall. What are you? 5.1. 10 and a half? 5.11? I am, yeah, I'm like just shy of 6 feet. We got two stream laughs. Streamlabs are great because they take less.
Starting point is 01:22:07 They, yeah, YouTube is less greed. Guys, watch Omni Man. Yeah, he's great. Watch OmniMedia as well. Yeah, OmniMedia. You should have called yourself Omneman. Omneman Media. It would have opened the...
Starting point is 01:22:24 Why didn't you plan ahead, Omni Media? Why don't you just see what the dimensions are for the former one? We're just fixing the crop here. See what the dimensions are for the former one, and we could just... I can remember it. Okay. So that's what this is. So, 1,300, 530...
Starting point is 01:22:43 Oh, my God. 1,300, 530, 50, and 500. You got it, John. I'll let you remember while I'm talking. Yes. I was like, maybe I won't remember that. The link in the stream labs is at the top there. The foreigner is a great film.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Keep talking. I'm talking with the chat right now. Kelsey Grammer just said he thinks he'll be playing Beast again. I fucking hope so. You think. Can you imagine? You don't know, guys. You never know.
Starting point is 01:23:10 I'm going to have to change the thumbnail in the title because we barely, we haven't even gotten to the fucking Superman shit. It's okay. We'll get there eventually. Jesus Christ. Hey, we're here with this. the new display. We got two right now.
Starting point is 01:23:23 We got those. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Hey, the gamer, MJ. Thank you for chiming in.
Starting point is 01:23:31 They should just sell the rights to someone else. Let it be done. I mean, that's the only copacetic way, I think, right now. The rumored plot came out and involves the core four. Sidney, Mark, and the kids takes place in L.A. Would loop back to the Maureen Prescott somehow. But now the end of six is looking poetic. True of that.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Dude, bring it back. Oh, my God. If we could just bring it back in seven to part three, you know? I love that these maligned part threes always get their, you know, love eventually down the line, you know. We could have had all this. We could have had Parker Posey back in some weird, you know. Patrick Dempsey back. They should always bring Patrick Dempsey around.
Starting point is 01:24:11 He's sexiest man alive. He's McDreaming. How? How? Someone pitched him for Silver Surfer. I don't understand. Look, I understand. Patrick Dempsey, he's a talent.
Starting point is 01:24:24 He's a beautiful-looking man. I think he's very charming. But. There is a massive butt coming. And then sure enough. His well-toned butt? When Patrick Dempsey won sexiest man, and I saw that go out,
Starting point is 01:24:38 my immediate thought was, please, for the love of God, let Twitter be thinking what I'm thinking right now. Which is what? Pedro Pascal should have won. Oh, sure. Hey, first time. Super chat, thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:24:51 So I go on social media and it was like, yep, yep, yep, that's it. I was like, why not? Pedro is the sexiest man alive of the moment. Which other man? Harry Styles, but I feel like we're already past that moment. He had Last of Us, a Mandalorian.
Starting point is 01:25:11 His SNL episode was like a legacy episode. Sure. Every sketch he was perfect in that. And then the interview circuit rounds, he was the talk of the year. Yeah. It was a phenomenon. It was equivalent to when Bradley Cooper won over Ryan Gosling. You're like, what?
Starting point is 01:25:30 It's such an obvious, sometimes it's so obvious, it's staring you right in the face. Like, how did he, how did he not, I don't even, I don't even know what the sexiest man alive thing means. A lot. It's a big boost to your career. That was the biggest bullshit. to be out of anything that's happened Melissa Barrera being fired as one thing with Pedro 9
Starting point is 01:25:54 but Pedro Pescal not being sexiest man alive but we all know it's true if we all know like what other answer really who like what did he do I love this theory maybe it was offered him and he didn't want it probably like
Starting point is 01:26:10 that's a great great point Ki Kuan is the only other or Kee Kuan also sexiest man honestly yeah wholesome sexy there were two I put Brendan Fraser there for them. Yes, also wholesome sexy. I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I was like, what did Patrick Dempsey even? Is there something he did that I completely missed? He is zaddy. Pedro is a total zaddy. Other than disenchanted. Yeah, what's he been doing? I could not tell you what he's done. Hasn't he been sexiest man before?
Starting point is 01:26:43 I would have thought. I don't know. M.F. Doom. Anyway, but thank you, Gamer, M.J. for uh... Funny as the new sexy but like
Starting point is 01:26:52 is Patrick Dempsey funny? Um, Mr. Juan Marlbar thank you for the stream lab donation here. Uh, what are your most anticipated
Starting point is 01:27:01 non-comic movies of 2024? Damn, I was going to use it a opportunity to talk about Superman legacy. Uh,
Starting point is 01:27:07 my is George Miller's Furiosa and Dune 2. Much love. Happy Thanksgiving. Uh, do we have in 2020. Damn,
Starting point is 01:27:16 you really, uh, took the ice pair of I was going to say those would be George's towards the top
Starting point is 01:27:23 yeah it's really hard to think we'll scream seven definitely looking for screams
Starting point is 01:27:28 sure movies coming out in 2024 what do we got what do we got we won't spend too much time
Starting point is 01:27:35 here oh we got a new kung fu panda kongf panda four undoubtedly I'm looking forward to
Starting point is 01:27:41 I don't love Joker as a movie but I'm very curious to see that's a combo movie john damn it beetle juice too I'm looking forward to you.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Curious about being able to. From the conversation that Tim Burton has led us in on with that film, it has sounded like he has been aware of what he has become and he's going back to more of his roots. Okay. With that. Okay. He's talked pretty extensively about how Disney warped him.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Sure. Yeah. Oh, so he's reckoning with CGI Tim Burton? No, a thousand percent. He has talked pretty extensively about it. I didn't know that. That's interesting. If Adam Sandler and the Safdi brothers are able to make that movie.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Oh, Falgai. That movie looks great. I knew I was forgetting something. Fall guy. A hundred percent is one of them. Yeah. Fall guy looks excellent. I'm very excited.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I'm very curious to see what Alien Romulus turns out to be, just because I like Fedi Alvarez a good amount, you know, wicked. I'm excited to see if they do a good job. he's the right pick for that uh i i can see how he would and wouldn't be and that makes me like neil blom camp i'm like that's the guy and i'm sad we don't live in the timeline same time i think fedi alvarez can at least height in like the icky like horror and the fact that the aliens are just so harsh of a creature you know i think he would give us a really aggressive this like i think the sequences of alien gore
Starting point is 01:29:15 would hit but alien needs to it's the surrounding elements outside of the violence you need the ensemble as well I'm not exactly sure but he likes to have also female leads and alien is one of those franchises where I mean I think horror
Starting point is 01:29:32 in general is that one genre where people are like we love female leads but in the other genre people are like this is a work bullshit yeah right I can see how it would go awry and I'm curious I don't know if he wrote it or not because like you know the dialogue in some of his movies
Starting point is 01:29:53 could be better but you know sure at least in terms of attitude I'm looking forward to it and with that new James 1 movie do we have any more streamers all right now let's let's go back to the soups for right now are the Transformers one with hamburg and the animated one that does sound
Starting point is 01:30:12 like a cool, cool experience. Gia. I know someone who worked on it. Oh, who is that? Can't say. Can't say. Can't say who's a test and past. Can't say. But I do not someone who worked on it and they're like,
Starting point is 01:30:24 oh, it's going to be a good one. We should. We should. Oh, goodness. Gracious me. Let's do a big. No, okay. Before we go back to the Super, let's just talk about Super.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Let's get to that out of the fucking way. I don't think there's anything in the chat about it. Skylar Gizondo. Whoa, John, John, we got to fix this. Oh, sorry. No, no, no. It's just going to look like crap on screen for a little bit. Let's just leave it like that. All right.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Let's just do it. All right. Superman Legacy. Nicholas Holt. Nicholas Holt. What a lovely day. I'm not going to lie, man. It's not him who I'm most excited about.
Starting point is 01:30:58 It's Skylar Gizondo as Jimmy Olson. It really is. I'm excited for him too. Because, because, God damn, that guy was excellent in Santa Clarita Diet. Have you seen that show? Oh, I've got to finish it, but I've seen some of it, yeah. That was the, I think out of every Netflix show that has been canceled, that is the one that still to this day makes me go,
Starting point is 01:31:24 damn it, guys. True Barrymore especially needs a refuted. And just any Timothy Aliphant is a gift. And I didn't really know Timothy Aliphon, honestly. Like, apparently he's been like this beautiful gem of a human being for centuries. and i and i wasn't aware of this and and uh yeah like i i i think him as jimmy olson is perfect he's got that like endearing sheepish quality that he's got just like the right corkiness about it like just do exactly what you did in santa claire sure i want to see you do any range just be
Starting point is 01:32:01 exactly what i know you to be and i'm cool with that yeah well and i'm excited just i haven't seen the righteous gemstones but i know he's on that which i which is giving me all the more kind of motivation to check it out. And he is actually on one of my favorite shows, which you can check out over at the patron. He's on Syke. He's like, he's the young version of Sean. They recast young
Starting point is 01:32:22 Sean at some point and it becomes Skylar Gizondo. And I always really enjoyed seeing him in that form. And so I associate him with that boyishness from that. So I'm like, Perf. And now the the, okay,
Starting point is 01:32:36 let's talk about Nicholas Holt though. Nicholas Holt is what has not been said about him already that I'm like what can we really I think the the versatility of even if you haven't seen some of the movies like I haven't seen like a lot of his movies
Starting point is 01:32:54 but if you just go to if you just go to Rotta Tomatoes and you see the feedback he gets from the versatility of roles that he has done even for the ones we haven't seen you're just like yeah he can easily I feel like it's a like it's a he can easily do Lex Luthor
Starting point is 01:33:09 and it is one there's something that feels very classical about the casting that they're doing with Superman you get kind of an unknown like David I always want to say
Starting point is 01:33:19 sweaty bottles yeah Corinne sweat Corrin sweat Corrin sweat Dave yeah like he's not bald enough he is like some people know
Starting point is 01:33:31 his work but he's not exactly famous yes whereas Nicholas Holt is a is a pretty famous guy who really hasn't had the proper break for that huge role. And, yeah, most of us know him is like, he played Beast. He played he was in Mad Max Fury Road. Warm bodies.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Warm bodies. Some warm bodies loved us now. People loved his work in the menu. And those are already there, that level of range. Like, there's an undeniable range just in those few roles alone. And in a lot of ways, you kind of see how that could, in it of, it's, I mean, he's played like Tolkien, you know, he's played scientists before. Hank
Starting point is 01:34:09 McCoy's a scientist. You could already see Alex Luther from an amalgamation of all those few roles that he's pretty much known for. Yeah, and his growth is an actor I haven't seen Renfield yet. I heard he's great in that. I'm excited to see Renfield. Yeah, I mean, his growth is an actor over time. I feel like he's got a good
Starting point is 01:34:25 combination of like he still feels like a young, fresh-faced guy, but he has been around for long enough and we've seen his chops grow enough that he has like something of like a veteran-esque status now. You know, he's well-engrained now, and I think that suits Alex Luthor kind of nicely.
Starting point is 01:34:44 And having heard that, you know, he was maybe even in, wasn't he one of the names thrown out for Clark, you know? You audition for it, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Someone just brought it up in the chat. Yeah, and so I think that's fun. It's like, okay, he came in for one thing, but we see him for something else.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And, yeah, he's like, I associate him more with, more sympathetic, more protagonist than not, but I think he can very easily and very, like I'm excited to see him slip into this particular villainous role and expand on those chops that much more because, you know, in the menu
Starting point is 01:35:18 he's not a very likable character. You've already get that sense. And yeah, I'm just, I'm excited to see him really take center stage because, you know, any superhero movie is just as, they say, only as good as it's villain. I mean, he can play, like, the elegance. He can play the entitlement.
Starting point is 01:35:37 He can play the mad genius, you know. I think he can command the screen. I think there's so much he could, the way he would carry himself. And he's one of those actors who can communicate a lot with the eyes. And there's more of a depth of Lex than just he's a bad guy, you know? Yeah. And James Gunn has also been kind of outspoken about not being the biggest fan. He hasn't said those exact words, but you can kind of get the inclination in that interview he did with Michael Rosenbaum,
Starting point is 01:36:01 who is still in a lot of people's eyes the pinnacle for Lex Luthor. And I think that it's not going to be like Gene Hackman at all, you know, nor is it going to be Jesse Eisenberg. No. No, people will riot. Be right in between.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Yes, that's what we need. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I mean, it's a commentator for some reason. You can see it on screen. Lex needs to be an ass, but also needs to be likable to an extent, yeah. It's because the word asses. And I feel like in the hands of James Gunn,
Starting point is 01:36:29 we can get the Lex who have eventually gets the NECSuit. Yeah, mech Lex. Yeah. Well, I'm excited to see what he brings out of the relationship, the back and forth between Superman and him, because like one of the most- You can't play the duplicitousness?
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yes, he can't. Well, that's one of my favorite things about the DC animated journey that Coy and I took was it showed me so many fun sides and approaches and ways in which Lex figures in that make him more interesting than just like, ah, he's an arch villain. Like, he can wind up on a lot of different sides of the chessboard. And I think that in and of itself is a really fun prospect. 1,000%.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Yeah, 1,000%. I think it is not the obvious pick that you would see, but it is a great pick. Yeah. And I trust, I think regardless of James Gunn, whatever you feel about what's happening with DC, it is a craziness that's happening right now. I do think that there's one thing we know about James Gunn is that, He knows how to cast for the work that he writes. He really knows how to do that very well.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Paul Kent, I want James Remar. That's to name you. It's your go-to name now. Yep, James Remar always. They should get Clancy Brown. Clancy Brown would be lovely. And that'd be kind of meta-casting since he's played Lex before. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Oh, I love it. Oh, my God, do it. Please. And he's always playing a fucking villain. It'd be nice to be. Yes, that'd be a wholesome character. Nice to see him play. Can't all be Mr. Crabs.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Yeah. You could also see kind of that mentor. I mean, he's pretty old, but Hawkins was to die. Yeah. In a tornado accident and have a heart attack. Hey, I mean, there's some versions of the story where he doesn't die. Anyway, let's go back to the super. Some people have been saying we have to read the supers.
Starting point is 01:38:17 We got to get super. It's rare. The main chat is saying, you got to read the super. Yeah, yeah. Oh, God, what's going on? They're like, is all they read the super's? I saw one confrontation at least. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:38:28 So we got this one. move on to get Josh Run, yeah, okay. Wait, now, did we read it? I don't know if we did. Yeah, yeah, we did.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Yeah, go out with the bang, okay. Dead shots, decisions by Spike. We did not read that. All right, Dakota Jones, one virus effects. What's up, my dude? Good to hear from you once again. Thank you for being here.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Just want to say happy holidays to Mabroskis. What are the thoughts on Javier Bardem as Galactus? I was closed on calling. Galentzi Bram would be a great. Clancy Brown. And he's got the voice.
Starting point is 01:39:02 He's got the voice for everything. He's the new, you know, Brian Cranston was like the name everybody did for everything before. Now I want Clancy B for all things. Clancy Brown. Let me tell you what Clancy Brown. Let me tell you about Clancy Brown. Javier Bardem I always suspect is a bad guy. Even in roles where he's not directly playing a bad guy.
Starting point is 01:39:27 I constantly suspect he's a bad guy. No country really kind of defined that note for him. It's kind of like, one of my favorite castings I've ever seen done in the history of casting is watching Tarantino cast Christoph Waltz as one of the greatest villains ever, Hans Landa, and A Glorious Bastards. He wins an Oscar. And then what does he immediately do? He puts him in his next film as a protagonist, you know, and Django Unchained.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Wins an Oscar for that. And I was like, oh, that's so good. But then for some reason, you mainly just fucking see, I just said his name. Christopher. You always see Christoph Waltz playing a bad guy. And it's like, I'm like, okay, I'm sick of it. You kind of just expect him to do that. You just kind of expect him to do the thing that Tarantino had him do, but slightly lesser.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Right, yeah, that is the vibe, right? But Clancy Brown, he can play good. He's usually playing bad, but he can play good. Buckaroo Banzai. There was a revival season of Dexter where they said he was playing the antagonist. Now, you're not actually, they revealed that prior to the point in the show where they reveal he is the antagonist. But they already announced that he is. So I don't feel like I'm spoiling anything.
Starting point is 01:40:56 if you're, like, late to catching up on this. But it got to the point where I'm watching the show and I'm going, oh, maybe he's not a bad guy. Because he was so good at selling me on that he is a good person. Sure, sure. That I was like, oh, maybe the casting reports were wrong. And then eventually the show was like, like, it's a couple episodes. Oh, okay, yes.
Starting point is 01:41:21 But my point to that is Clancy Brown is one of those acts. who can play that so well i'm not saying galifus needs to have that yeah uh but i don't know there's just something that feels like harvey bardem as doom is another obvious one that i'm like that's too obvious to me like there's something that's like just the right fit to me about nicholas holt is luther yeah it's the right amount of like you can see it but it's not quite likely yeah yeah yeah yeah i would agree um but i mean sure hover but here's the fucking thing though Harvey Bardem is a fantastic actor. So, yes, like, is he a great pick?
Starting point is 01:41:59 I'm sure by the time, if he does the role, and I'm sure when he comes out and he's see him, I'm sure we're going to be like, he's great. You know, like, I highly doubt we're going to be like, I'm just cast. I highly suspect that if he does take the role, we're going to, he's going to do an excellent job. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:15 It's just the immediate announcement of it is like, I'm like a little bit more of a, That's why I think Pedro is an exciting casting choice to me. Yeah, because it's not quite what you would expect or imagine, and it requires a thread that we don't see as much from the roles that he's been largely associated with. So, yeah, it's like a little chance to grow and a little bit unlikely, but you can also kind of see where this would work, too.
Starting point is 01:42:41 And, yeah, Deadshot, to your point, yeah, Javier, John Carlo is an exact thing. I mean, yeah, it's happened with so many people. It's like John Carlo or... Oh, that's right. He was in Little Mermaid. I forgot about that. That's right. Was he King Triton?
Starting point is 01:42:58 Yeah. Okay. I mean, I like Hobby Arbredem more for Galactus than Doom, but that's just a personal kind of flippant thing. I just, I don't know. Yeah, it makes more sense for him to be this big giant thing to me. And I feel like we could get a little different threat out of him for that than something else, but then Doom per example.
Starting point is 01:43:20 but anyway Shaquita Washington I hope I'm saying your name properly I have followed y'all for about three years now I love what you do I'm fan-girling right now great job getting healthier down through the years Gregory well done and for your information
Starting point is 01:43:39 thank you Shakwita Washington oh also congrats on your first super chit rando we will get to you but yes FYI I want John to be BFF. Well, dude, let's make this happen. What the hell? What a rude thing to say.
Starting point is 01:43:57 She's nervous. She's falling for three years. She's nervous to aim too high. And the reason she wants to be my BFF is that I can do without you. I can't introduce you to her. I got to say. That is the rudest super chat we have ever gotten. You know what?
Starting point is 01:44:14 I agree. You know, this is really driving a wedge between us. from all the ladies the lady followers of the channel i would love to be your bfm i'm excited to chat uh i do think ron perlman is also a good pick absolutely thank you shakita we love you thank you thank you so much for following us for so long my dear akash harroposwad hey fellows what are your thoughts on some big budget flops this year oh that gives us a chance to talk about what was originally in the title you think consumers are exhausted with big budget blockbusters personally love mission impossible dead reckoning but
Starting point is 01:44:53 sad to see it underperform you know what's funny about mission impossible dead reckoning is now I'm seeing more videos come out that echo this shit that I said when I first came out yeah sometimes it takes the time now people are saying it and I this is coming from someone who's a massive fan of that franchise in every one of those films multiple times even even dead reckoning I was like I got to watch again, just to see if I still feel the same. I don't think it's, I feel like I'd recommend it's a step down in the franchise as a film.
Starting point is 01:45:25 I do. I really do think that. I think it's a good, big budget film, but I still think it's a step down. And I actually think, here's my really unpopular opinion. I was already unpopular at a time. Now it's getting more accepted, I noticed. I think even if it was not, it would not have tanked as bad
Starting point is 01:45:45 obviously if it was not released a week before the Barbenheimer experience. Yes. I still think it would have underperformed. I don't think the movie itself had much of an effect that would have warranted the amount of money that it needed to make.
Starting point is 01:46:06 I just don't think that. I don't believe it. I really don't. And trust me on this. Trust me. There's no way of knowing. There's really no way of knowing. But I don't think
Starting point is 01:46:16 Like the film is too long The action scenes are not as memorable Or as impactful as the prior installments They're just not They're good They're great They are great They still feel lesser than the other one
Starting point is 01:46:32 It's I gotta say They're less I con truly iconic moments I guess like The Dead Reckoning mostly gets tagged As the AI one rather than like the Birch Khalifa one or the plane one or the halo jump one you know it's yeah it's it's the one where you the bike stunt that you essentially saw in the trailer yeah it's not that different than what's in
Starting point is 01:46:56 the trailer yeah yeah and and and um and I do think that out of all of them that was the film where because of its length where the the the amount of exposition that's in there and the the writing where it does feel a little bit more perfunctory to kind of hire you to get to the action scenes is the most felt in that film. And so I do think that regardless, it would not have had the repeat experience. To me, I think Fallout is a near perfect action film. And at the end of the day, I think most would still say that it's still a step down from Fallout.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Even if you really liked it, I still think it's still a step down. Because to the point of the chat right now, Fallout and Rogue Nation, because they had three, which a lot of people, like, that's still my favorite one, and I know, I understand that's most people that's not their favorite. And then Ghost Protocol, like, fucking set the bar. It's like, whoa, Tom Cruise, endangering in his life for us. Love you again. What did he say about Scientology?
Starting point is 01:47:57 I don't remember. And Rogue Nation was like, whoa, holy shit, what's this guy doing? There's no way you can top this. Oh, my God, he didn't fallout, you know? And in Fallout was like this perfect blend, I think, of Ghost Protocol. and Rogue Nation. Because Rogue Nation kind of stripped away
Starting point is 01:48:16 some of that whimsy. Yeah. But they amp the action. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, Fallout has what feels like such world-rending
Starting point is 01:48:26 culminative stakes that part of me wonders, I don't know. Like, there's something about that that feels very kind of like a punctuation and it almost feels like the end of something.
Starting point is 01:48:38 And so now it does feel maybe a little bit like we are kind of, in a new territory where they got to figure out what the new juju is because there's AI and that's topical but that's not exactly like the new enchanting flavor
Starting point is 01:48:52 of these things and I think that yeah maybe there is a quality of like maybe it is just like the convolution I don't know like all these movies are very convoluted Mission Impossible movies certainly they thrive on that but but yeah there's something about Dead Reckoning as much as I enjoyed it that yeah doesn't
Starting point is 01:49:08 quite feel for as many like really well-orchestrated elements and feathers in its cap as the movie has there is something that maybe feels like it's not quite fresh or or at least it's not making me forget about everything
Starting point is 01:49:24 the McGuffin is so not interesting like yeah like I like the idea and I like some of the things they do with it the key the key yeah I'm torn on that
Starting point is 01:49:38 the key opens the key because part of me is like yeah sure But even the first one is just like, we just got to get this list. We've got to get this list, this freaking knock list, the freaking knock list. Like, you know, they're talking about the first one? Yeah, I'm just, I'm pulling an example of like these mean,
Starting point is 01:49:52 like these mcuffins that, you know, mean less than just what's happening on screen. I know, but the franchise got better. I know, I know, I know. But they all have, or the chimera virus or, I mean, you have part three with like these personal stakes, so it doesn't really matter as much like what the mcuffin is. And I think maybe there's that.
Starting point is 01:50:09 It's like you have all these movies that. have other more sort of, I don't know, galvanizing physical presences. And it's like you have the addition of Haley Atwell, which helps, but you have the fridging of that one character, I won't spoil if you haven't seen it, that makes you mad.
Starting point is 01:50:25 And then Issaim Morales, good performance, but not like the, he's not written in a way to be like the captivating new actorly presence like you had with. I think it's a little bit miscast. Maybe. And a little bit underwritten, too.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Like, I think, like, a Henry Cavill, like that character didn't amount to, to what we expected, certainly. I think some people wanted more out of that, but he still left his mark on that movie, or a Philip Seamer Hoffman leaves a mark on, you know, whatever movie. Or even with four and five, you have the building out and solidifying of the ensemble
Starting point is 01:50:56 that still feels new and fresh, whereas in Dead Reckoning, you have the ensemble is set, and that's fine, and you have new blood in Haley Atwell, but there's not really as much else that feels like it's, I don't know, the new distinct thing about this one other than AI. You know? But it doesn't really do anything that new with AI. No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:51:20 I did feel like it's... And nor does it feel like... I don't know. It's a relatable. It's a relatable fear. Didn't mean for this. But we should talk about the Marvels. Yes.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Let's talk about the Marvels while we're on this topic. Yes. This... What I want to... Okay. I don't want to crap on the Marvels. I feel like the big headline is about, like, how it's been this. The biggest comic book movie drop of all times.
Starting point is 01:51:41 time outdoing morbius 79% baby it's really it is terrible and i think right now disney figgy they are all very much working their asses off to reevaluate the situation in their hands and i feel like they're kind of doing a purging of some other stuff sure you know sometimes we got to do it when we're like stuck with the show that we're gonna fuck we got to just drop it it out of the way even though it's affecting our views in the algorithm here drop it all in one day we just got to get it out drop it all every day for christmas week i feel that's kind of what they're fucking doing right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:13 I think that's why they're just like, okay, even though Marvel's flopped, dude, fucking, okay, promote what if, drop Echo, just drop it. Drop it all. And then we'll have Deadpool 3 and then we'll take a break.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Yeah. Because I think just having to just focus on Deadpool 3 is smart because I feel like that movie will be a billion dollar hit and I think that'll help change the conversation around Marvel and if they don't go
Starting point is 01:52:40 like, If they don't get, like, the rush, you know, where they've got a taste of it again, and they're like, oh, let's start releasing everything again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, ramp back up, you know. If they, wait, I think they have to rebuild anticipation and hype. So I don't feel like, we will get to the super, we're just really focused on this subject right now.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I think with the Marvel's flopping, there are some good things about it. A, I think it's going to cause the Marvel Studios to reevaluate, itself. I don't like the conversation that it forms around the actors, and I don't like the conversation that it forms around Nia da Costa. There's a lot of bullshit, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:22 And that was one of the main things even in my review where I was very upset about the experience I had with the film. I was like, I want this in no way to be reflective of the performances here, nor Nia da Costa, because clearly it is not, whatever negative feelings I have is actually not about them.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Yeah. Like, Nia Costa, like, what was the thing going on about the, about not getting invited or some bullshit? What was that shit? Do you guys what were talking about in the chat? There's a headline that went up about Nia da Costa Bales on the cast and crew screening for the marvels. And the very same article includes information that basically says, like, she found out that the screening existed when she invited some people to her birthday party. And they said they couldn't go because they had the screening. So, you know, which prompted a bunch of chatter on the internet.
Starting point is 01:54:09 And there have been instances of people basically saying there's a concerted media effort to punch down on the Marvels and to throw, you know, Nia D'Costa in particular, under the bus for this. Sure. And there are certain instances of that where it'll come down to like one word in a headline and then it's like, well, you know, people were comparing this in the Hunger Games and like how the coverage is different, but the Hunger Games has like half the budget to make back. So like there are things like that where I'm like, I don't see it as much. this thing with Nia Dacosta bailing on the screening, I do kind of see it because it's there in the article where they lay out the truth. So I'm like, okay, this is at very least,
Starting point is 01:54:47 shameless clickbait, and at very most, you know, these are things that not everybody is going to take the time to read and dig further on. So a lot of people are just going to think, oh yeah, Nia Dacosta couldn't be bothered to finish the movie even though she had, you know, obligations that cannot be pushed back forever and ever and ever by even Marvel. Yeah, I feel real.
Starting point is 01:55:06 bad for her because it does seem like there are plenty of aspects of just the movie in and of itself that maybe aren't poised to perform as well as they hoped now. But also, I think there is some hinky stuff going on with the public perception, especially
Starting point is 01:55:22 of Nia da Costa, and it really sucks because I don't think it's fair at all. And that was a thousand percent what my worry was when we watched this movie. It was 100% what my worry was, was that this movie should not be a reflection of her direction. Because I know some people are trying to to, at the end of it, it does sound like a spin.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Like, yes, is it technically a fact that this is the biggest performing movie for a movie that is held by a black female director? Yeah, it is. At the same time, that wasn't the driving force behind it or nor was it part of its, like, promotional marketing ramp up to entice audiences to go see this movie. It's an MCU is the thing that people are there to go see. Marvels, I think, that you would see. Even Nia Dacosta herself was like, I'm making a Kevin Feige movie. I'm not really making it Nia Kostom.
Starting point is 01:56:11 She said something along those lines, right? So yes, there is an accomplishment that she did get a helm that. However, part of the negative to that is making it seem like this really was her film when it's not really her, like, it's, I can't. I don't feel like this is truly, even if you liked it a lot. This is not the purest vision.
Starting point is 01:56:36 of Aenea to cost a film. And you're never going to get that with a big studio movie. Like it's rarely the closest you'll get that with is like James Gunn doing a movie. It's really not the case here. Well, and he's in a very different position because as much as I think Marvel pulls interesting and indie film directors with some level of like genuine like, yeah, we see something in your vision and we want to bring that here. I still think it's a classic Hollywood move.
Starting point is 01:57:04 We'll get somebody who we can bring in here. who's done something of some prestige, but who doesn't have enough sway to push back on us when we need to change shit around. And we're in a stage now where Marvel is so modular that they, especially with the movies I imagine, always are doing that, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:22 And I think there's more attention drawn to it. Here's where things get. Dicey. I think there's more attention drawn to it because she is a woman. Of course. 100%. Oh, if this one.
Starting point is 01:57:36 was just a mediocre average, like it's kind of fun, dude movie. Yeah, I don't think. Who directed Morbius? Can you guys? Who directed Morbius, guys? Couldn't tell you. Come on. Can you tell me off the top of your head?
Starting point is 01:57:49 Who directed Morbius? Yeah. Which was a massive, massive, massive flop. Jared Letto gets the brunt of that movie. Who directed that film, guys? Exactly. Yeah, and I mean, you know, it's so weird to watch Nia da Costa's trajectory
Starting point is 01:58:03 because Candyman, highest number one, you know, opening for a black female director but jordan peel got all the credit for i mean she got some but yeah jordan peels involved so he's going to get some of the credit for that and then this comes out and it's like you know you have the simultaneous like highest ever and also lowest and uh and yeah it is daniel espinoza you're right danielza but i'm saying most people won't be able to pull that fucking you know that off your head that wasn't really the conversation around people weren't like fucking Daniel Lusmanosa, man. He's going to take this.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Oh, man. He didn't do the fourth reshoes. He must not care about anything. He must just be an entitled asshole. Yeah. No, it's not good. It's a real bummer. Chloe Zhao did not get as much heat because it wasn't as big of a flop.
Starting point is 01:58:55 Like, this is a record-breaking flop. And Marvel really backed her up. And it's really on the down, like, Marvel's already been on the down, trajectory in terms with outlets already been like all right
Starting point is 01:59:10 like big outlets taking advantage of Marvel's downward trajectory and and using it to boost themselves so now it's just
Starting point is 01:59:19 like all right what more can we put a stamp on this like I think Amman Valani the way her conversation
Starting point is 01:59:24 has been around it has been she like God that woman she knows what to say she just continues to prove
Starting point is 01:59:29 why she's like that Bob I can worry about that she's so perfect she's continues to just, not just as Kamala the combatant, that was a Manvallani.
Starting point is 01:59:39 She's just like, damn, you are icing this shit in Monvalon. How to handle the conversation surrounding how to talk about this shit, right? But no, I mean, I don't think Nanda Costa is the one to, like,
Starting point is 01:59:54 it's interesting. Like, when you look at Ryan Johnson, I hope they, I hope audiences give her the chance the way they've given Ryan Johnson the chance. You throw Ryan Johnson in the conversation with Star Wars. It says, oh, fuck the last Jedi. But he still managed to have a great career after Last Jedi. This Knives Out franchise is a stellar hit.
Starting point is 02:00:10 It's phenomenal hit. And I'm hoping Nied Costa can generate the same thing. Don't put her back in Marvel. But I think that what she can do with, I thought Candyman was a really solid, was a really solid soft reboot. I thought it was very, very solid. And I think she deserves a chance to prove that she can do something different. And it's not because, but I think there is more attention to,
Starting point is 02:00:34 on because of the whole thing with like the women involved and it was a huge flop and Marvel's already this was just like the next step it was like this was going to flop yeah and they didn't they didn't help I feel like a big difference between this and the Eternals is that they didn't back this the same way they didn't help this out the same way you didn't have Kevin Feigy out here being like this is an Oscar winner or some like comment you know and and Eternals, while there was a lot of female presence, you still
Starting point is 02:01:08 had, you know, John's the Game of Thrones guys, and she still had Kingo, you still had Barry Cogan, you still had a lot of people. You still had a lot of male presence as well. That was more of like an ensemble thing and you know, and they were still
Starting point is 02:01:26 trying something very different. Whereas Eternals wasn't a lot of people's negative association with the marvels for those who feel negatively towards the marvels. I'm not speaking to those who felt positively towards it. I'm not saying if you feel positively towards it, you should feel different.
Starting point is 02:01:43 I'm saying to echo this, to summarize the sentiments of a lot of people who felt negatively towards the marvels is that it was emblematic of all the things MCU generally has been doing wrong. And it's like it's all not the stuff people were freaking out about in the first movie. which like they shouldn't have been freaking out about but it's it's largely not that stuff
Starting point is 02:02:05 whereas eternals was very much different like while i i didn't like eternals um it was not i wouldn't say the problems that i had with that are the same problems i had with the marvels no yeah the yeah it's like the the eternal still gets to be what it wants to be and breathe the way it wants to breathe. And this, it's like, again, I was initially excited for like, oh, hour and 45 minutes. That's very reasonable. And for like the tone they seem to be setting, also very reasonable. Then you watch the movie.
Starting point is 02:02:38 And I like the movie more than pretty much any of the rejects on record here. Like, I had a pretty good time. But it is one of those things where I watched now. It was like, this is fun. But the fun is hampered by the fact that I can tell this. It just feels to me like this wants to be a more breathable movie and a more tonally finessed movies so that all the fun and games they want to try make a bit more sense and uh and those are all things that just really smack of like retooling and stuff that yeah it just felt so out of
Starting point is 02:03:08 the creatives control at that point and uh yeah yeah i mean yeah i don't think uh yeah bottom line somebody brought a pandemic like somebody brought a pandemic and it's like oh you know is it always is it even a flop because we live in a post pandemic world and you know it's like everything's going to be 20% or so less. It's a flop. But it's still a fly because now, in light of that, we're going to have to retool how much we spend and what we consider
Starting point is 02:03:35 for blockbusters. Because we're also at a point now, we're like, these movies are more expensive than ever. Definitely. Yeah. I know we spent a long time there. Thank you for that. We just really wanted to take advantage of your question to really zero in on
Starting point is 02:03:51 a topic there. Michelle, Thank you, Michelle. Love your LinkedIn profile. Thank you for the plethora of fun live streams of great content lately. Oh, thank you. Thank you. For those who have been watching. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:04:06 One last thought. Jesus, John. It's like dealing with Koi. I think it's unfortunate for Nia Dacostas compared to the other director you mentioned just because she... Daniel Espinoza. No, somebody else.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Chloe Zhao. With more stuff on that. their plate. Ryan Johnson. Ryan Johnson. I think Nia Dacosta's on a way bigger back foot right now because now she has to like deal with all this junk whereas Ryan Johnson had like a pretty respectable filmog
Starting point is 02:04:34 before he got Star Wars. Whereas Nia Dacosta, this is her third movie and now she's going to have to contend with all this nonsense to get back to a point where Ryan Johnson can get a new project Greenlit like any time. People were excited about Ryan Johnson directing versus Nia Dacosta. We're like, let's see
Starting point is 02:04:50 what she can do. Yeah, you're leveling. You did a pretty good candy mail to see what you could do. Yeah, the top of the top of the top, you know. AM, thank you so much for your super chat. Thoughts on Lex, Jimmy, and Ms. Teskmacher casting. Who's playing Miss Teskmacher? Oh, let's find out. Let's do this thing.
Starting point is 02:05:07 James Gunn has announced so many castings. It's hard to keep track sometimes. Let's go. Who's playing here? Does someone know in the chat? Does somebody know in the chat? John Hamm, Dr. Doom? Definitely.
Starting point is 02:05:22 It's going to be good. Yeah. Ooh, they should get Brooke Test Malker from that would make the most sense. Hey, they need to take some notes for wrestling, all right? They need to take some notes across the board
Starting point is 02:05:37 from wrestling. Guys, who's playing her in the fucking in the Superbent movie? I have not seen some of the snakes. I mean, we have talked about Lex and Jimmy. We think they're perfect. And for their own variety of reasons, I'm weirdly more excited for Jimmy
Starting point is 02:05:51 than I am for Lex. Sarah Sempeo. Who's that? I don't know. Don't know. Or is it Sempio maybe? I don't really know her from like the portrayals
Starting point is 02:06:00 in the live action movies. I don't really know the character, honestly. Oh my God, she's hideous. She, I cannot stand to look at this woman. I don't hope she has an extended role on screen. Yes, never. I hope she never works again.
Starting point is 02:06:16 Oh, she has 8.7 million followers. Oh, goodness. It must be for how ugly she is. It must be because lots of people in the world speak Portuguese. What is Sarah Sampo famous for being a Victoria's Secret Angel? Good.
Starting point is 02:06:28 More like the She did some stuff next to Kate Blanchett for Armani Fragrance. Sarah's something new. So she caught some of that acting. I don't know. I mean, people roll their eyes at model actors, but I'm sure she's got chops. Hey, hey, you know who's a model actor?
Starting point is 02:06:46 Charlize their own. Hey, there you go. I'm saying. Well, and too. I can name more. I think it's funny. Good. It's going great. Yeah, baby. Okay, babe.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Yes, I think models turn to actors get a bad rap because how many models... Oh, she was an original creation for the Donner Super Maffo. I didn't know that. Oh, cool. That makes sense. Oh, that's a fun homage then, too. So sure.
Starting point is 02:07:13 I mean, people slag model actors, but so many actors are probably also modeling. So, Palm Clemente F for Mercy Graves. Ooh, lovely. Gary. Gary. Back in the chat. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:07:28 Or it's stage so we don't expect her ghost face. Oh, what a weird. Can you imagine? What a weirdo. If that was the ultimate reveal. What if, what if Seven, what if Scream 7 is just the most meta film where it's dealing with the firing of Melissa of Herrera, and they don't know whether, and they're like,
Starting point is 02:07:52 how to we make it? They're trying to make another stab movie. They just fire the star for a controversial comments. You're taking a completely different direction. You're doing it still within the screen universe. Okay. I'm saying we step into reality. Do a new nightmare. Do a new nightmare. A new nightmare is what I'm saying. Yes. And then you have, uh, like it's
Starting point is 02:08:08 like the filmmakers or the stars of the film. They're like everyone's just playing a satirical version of themselves. Yes. And then bam I'm not she's in a ghost face. Yeah. Anyway, that's not going to happen, but yeah, sure, why the fuck not? That would be cool. And what a way to set that up by just completely throwing your studio under the bus to do it.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Great comment right here. A new crowd of models once. It was very varied range of intellects. Of course it was, absolutely. People are not just their job. Jaden Stevens. Hi, Greg, and John. Hey.
Starting point is 02:08:42 Always a pleasure. It's us, it is. It is. It's always a pleasure, oh. to hear from you guys. I love the channel in your videos, so I've really got it me through this year. I was excited to see Michael B
Starting point is 02:08:52 coming back to Direcrete 4. Hell yeah, thank you for Generate. Guys in the chat, are you excited for Creed for? Forever. I got to use it at least once. It would be fitting. It's Creed.
Starting point is 02:09:05 Creed Forever. Creed Forever would actually be fitting. Usually that title you laugh at, and I would still laugh. But I think it's a very, very fitting title for the Creed franchise for a character that started off in
Starting point is 02:09:19 1970s with Apollo to now be carrying this franchise and then if you are setting up the daughter to become a boxer Dude, like it's I think it works. It's the perfect amalgamation of the heart
Starting point is 02:09:34 No. I like This is not an enthusiastic chat. Creed forever. Creed forever is a perfect title. I thought this would be way more possible. This chat is, like, so mixed so far on the Korean thing. Did you think Rocky was milking it by four or five?
Starting point is 02:09:54 I just, you know, if we're aligned on that, then that's fine. But I think Creed Forever is a title, just lovely, in a lovely way, combines the heart and cheese of the Rocky series in general. So I'm with it. I mean, the Creed movies are way more serious than the Rocky films. Yeah, I think there are some diminishing returns maybe just in that, like, you know, We're in the biggest thick of it with Adonis, and the first one, and the second one is super personal.
Starting point is 02:10:23 The third one is also personal, but it does have that feeling of like, okay, we need to expand this guy's life out so we can get some more personal circumstances going. So I can see them stretching, but I didn't think it was bad. Yeah, I mean, and the big talk about it was Jonathan Majors, who will definitely be back.
Starting point is 02:10:41 Definitely. So, yeah, I think... Creed Forgotten. Creed For Stick. Creed Forstic. Yeah, I think that... What would get me excited, at the end of it is Creed's franchise.
Starting point is 02:10:56 Adonis Creed's franchise. He's got to fight Rocky's kid. They got to figure out the whole thing with... Is it Irving? Not Irvin Kirchner. Irvin Winkler? Who's the producer? The one who's in debacle with Sylvester Stallone.
Starting point is 02:11:09 They got to figure out that whole shit. Yeah. Because it is kind of weird. when you do two Creed movies where so much of the DNA is with the Rocky franchise and the mentorship and then we're like, we can't even mention him really.
Starting point is 02:11:24 We can't really even acknowledge him. Yeah, and I think that they got to figure out something, honestly. Bringing back Clubber Lane and like it. Yeah, Irvin Winkler. It is Irvin Winkler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they should, I think they should do that.
Starting point is 02:11:41 They got to figure out that. But I think my Michael B. Jordan, that was his first movie he directed, and I feel like he could do an even better job. I mean, I think he did a great job for a first one, film, honestly. Clearly, he's studying on set. But damn, yeah, I think he would be
Starting point is 02:11:59 doing even more impeccable job. And, like, you can only imagine how much more expressive and imaginative the guy can get. Yeah, totally. And how many more anime flourishes he can pack in there. And I think he can get a, I think he can examine and maybe what he could have prepared for
Starting point is 02:12:15 or done a little better. Yeah. There were things I definitely had gripes with the actual. I like the first two-thirds a lot and while the big talk is the big fight at the end, I actually thought it got like extremely rushed.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Yeah. Like they, if my, I only saw it that one time. But I think with my memories for me to correct on my emotional association was that they kind of just like slammed their foot on the acceleration. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:42 At some point in the movie, They were just like, we've got to get to the fucking finale. All right, we've let this breathe. Now we've got to wrap it up, okay? Yeah, and I think that's a bit of the thing they've got to figure out. Bring back Mr. T and also go listen to Aesop Rock's new song about him. Tori, Jerry. Thank you, Tori.
Starting point is 02:13:00 Thank you. Love your profile pick. First time super chat. I appreciate all the work you do. Which Barbie are you? Oh, Don, please. Are you guys excited for Doctor Who this weekend? That's your ass.
Starting point is 02:13:11 We are. That's what we're doing the stream today because we've got to cover. Dr. Hood this weekend. So excited. Because we are caught up on Patreon with it, as a few weeks, like a month, two months ago. Yeah. We were like, you know what, let's put this on YouTube. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:25 It's the first time I'm going to put it on YouTube, and I'm very excited for this return. Hopefully it pans out well to be doing it for YouTube. Because everything we've done for Doctor Who's just at our Patreon. We're so late to it. And this is a new reset going forward. This will be listed as season one, so it's like a new, new who. Interesting. If that's, if I'm reading this correctly, you can clarify.
Starting point is 02:13:52 I thought it was just doing a couple specials with Tenet. They're doing a couple specials with Tenet, and then we move on to 14, to Ngutti, Gatwa. Interesting. Interesting. So, you know, we'll see. I don't know. Are they saying season one because they're going to do some timey-whimy-wee-me-shit with, like, the first doctor or something? Is that what you mean?
Starting point is 02:14:09 Time-y-wibli-wobly. I feel like any other franchise, this would be a clear sentiment with Doctor Who I'm like, what does it mean? They're going to call it season one. These are the three specials first. Genocide will tweet from James Woods. James Woods is rarely harmonizing with people. And then we'll read the guy, then we'll read Kevin Sorbo's tweets. I love Kevin Sorbo. Let's do it.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Kind of a soft reason. He's a saint. Interesting. Well, thank you, Tori. Yeah, no, we are very excited for it. Assasop Rock is the king. I mean, no shade day of Saprocky, but. For the confusion's sake, I'll go with you.
Starting point is 02:14:44 After the specials, it will be season one. Oh, dude, I see. Okay, so it is a new era, a new area. I mean, they really changed the lore. They did. And the fucking Jody Wittaker, we weren't the biggest fans of the... The writing could be better off. The writing and directing.
Starting point is 02:15:01 Man, there were some great episodes, though. Yeah. And the Whitaker, I mean, a lot of times it was kind of rough, but there were times. It was fucking amazing. The fucking, the big major arc they did, like at least half of those were phenomenal. Yeah, that one season where we did the flux was really nice.
Starting point is 02:15:21 Yeah, that was, I thought like half of those were amazing. And Jody killed, like, she filled the shoes and the coat, all that stuff really well. She really picked up the legacy and ran with it. I think she did a great job. And I don't think we'll be at L.A. Comic-Con, sadly, Gene. If you go, let us know how it is. John will be there. I'm always there.
Starting point is 02:15:39 I live at the convention center. Jaden Stevens with Deadpool. Thank you for the super chat, my friend. Damn, Jody's still here. I mean, Omni Man still here. When somebody said Michael B directing a Creed for I was like, Omni Media?
Starting point is 02:15:54 I was like, oh yeah, Jordan. I'm so used to see Michael B. Jordan as like one name. Hey, hey, John did Dead Reckoning with Omni Man. Shouts out, go watch us, watch it. I don't know why you don't ever cosplay as Omni Man. Maybe because he's not a Greek.
Starting point is 02:16:11 Jane Stevens with Deadpool being the only MCU title coming next year, do you think it's more or less pressure on the film of Dew Well? Yes. I think it is more. I never thought of it in terms of pressure. There's a lot of pressure, and I think it also makes a lot of sense to have it be the only MCU release next year because I think there are two sets of stakes.
Starting point is 02:16:36 It's like there's the MCU stakes in the sense that like, this got me good. But also there's the stakes of, like, Deadpool's coming over. This will be our first taste of, like, true anarchic R-rated Marvel. And I don't know. I think a lot of eyes are going to be on it because the first Deadpool, obviously, is, like, an iconic movie. A lot of people pretty much love Deadpool, too, or at least like it a lot.
Starting point is 02:16:58 So, like, the movie itself has to be great, but it also has to be, like, a particularly momentous MCU installment. And given that we're going to have Hugh Jackman back and we're probably going to do some kind of crazy, meta, you know, multi-studio universe-spanning thing. I think it makes a lot of sense to make it like the centerpiece of a year, but I also think that, yeah, it will have like so much writing on it from multiple angles. I think it helps make it feel so much more special that it's only going to be one movie
Starting point is 02:17:28 when this movie should feel special and not just be another one in the pantheon of MCU films. And for all the movies for it to be solo, yeah, this one makes sense. And especially for, you know, like usually MCU has been like, releasing three movies a year. To deuce it down to just one and to have it be Deadpool 3, I think that really shines a good spotlight on it. And they can release six
Starting point is 02:17:50 following year. Kink that hose. To make up for it and then release a few more shows. I like Deadpool 2 more than the first one. A lot of people don't share that opinion, but I personally... I like Deadpool 2 a lot. I need to rewatch the X-Men 97, man.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I really do, because I'm like, oh man, I remember that shot i'm seeing something i was a kid i keep talking about it coming back and i'm like i don't want to be that guy when i'm watching yeah who's just complaining like you should make this for people who definitely serialized uh gary um thank you for being back here my friend it will really mess with people's head of ghost face takes some ass off and says it was randy all along well yeah that's impossible it won't make any sense break people's heads every movie it's been Randy yeah yeah no get Alex aja's scream and then we can just do a high tension again he's just like this aggressively makes
Starting point is 02:18:49 no sense but it's really intense I think a scream trope that needs to die is how they handle killer reveals it's always fun figuring out who the killer is and being wrong or being right I always love the game of it it's part of the fun of every single scream
Starting point is 02:19:05 It's like what Saw when you're trying to figure out what the big twist is. Do it Saw 2. Did you like the twisting? I haven't seen Saw. Everyone shut up. Stop. Stop, stop, stop. No, 10 people.
Starting point is 02:19:18 Oh, God, John. You know what you just did? You started to ass. I cut myself off. Oh, God, I'm afraid of look. Oh, no. He's got to let this die. If you see something, you better fucking shield me right away.
Starting point is 02:19:35 I agree. My eyes are locked. If you say, don't do this. There's going to be that one fucking asshole. I don't know what to say right now. I feel like there's something I could say to set you at ease, but I also don't want to say too much of anything. Don't tell me. We're dropping the subject.
Starting point is 02:19:51 We're dropping the subject. You shut your mouth when you're talking to me. We're dropping the subject. Yeah, Aesop Rock is one of the best rappers of all time. If you don't know Aesop Rock's music, go check them out, all right. Mindful solution is. You have set our friendship back 10 years, John. I have been working so hard to get it back.
Starting point is 02:20:09 And it all comes crashing down today. But yeah, if it was Randy all along, I think people would be excited, but it would make any sense. Here's what they need to change about it. Is I'm so sick and tired of whenever they do the killer review, how they all behave the exact fucking same. They all behave the same. Yeah. They're all this, like, annoying, maniacal personnel. It's my favorite horror franchise.
Starting point is 02:20:30 Everyone's trying to become Matthew Lillard in that moment. And the only time it really fucking worked. But it was him, yeah. It was Matthew Lillard. Have different motivations or vibes. Yeah, not everybody has to go, like, full on crazy. And part of the fun with that was having Matthew Lillard and, um... And Skeed Ulrich.
Starting point is 02:20:47 And they had different tones to their killer. You know, one was like, I'm a serious actor. Yeah, I'm like, you're going to fuck about this, man. Yeah, yeah. It's your heartthrob and your like wacky, anarchic energy guy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, but now it's always like, we're both like it crazy. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Don't mind if I do. It's like the tree house of horror. Christian, unpranounceable, always one of the first people who's in our streams. One of the first people are comments all the time. How many Celestials do you think there are? Four to six. According to four dialogue. And the age of our universe, Timot, would have been the 13th born.
Starting point is 02:21:32 So there were 12 others born before him. many were there originally no no there was one originally there was one and then they became more I don't know that's a coy question I'm sure there's some kind of like well they had to have four at the beginning because of these I'm gonna figure this out I'm gonna figure this out hold on it's like let me just copy and paste this oh bring back officer doofy I think that would be very fun if they did a crossover that way so we're gonna ask Google Bard sure let's do I'm going to ask Google Bar, what Google Bart thinks.
Starting point is 02:22:05 Eresham. Good that you remember the name there. I'm just going to ask Google Bar, maybe we'll get the exact answer. Come on, Google Bard, in the movie Eternals, Erisham, the leader of the Celestial States, the T.M.O. It was the seventh celestial to be born. This contradicts the
Starting point is 02:22:21 earlier statement that the CEMO was the 13th to be born. This discrepancy could be attributed to a number of factors, such as the vastness of the cosmos and the limited knowledge of the eternals themselves. It is also possible that the celestial do not follow the same order of birth, or that there are multiple generations of Celestials. Ultimately, the exact number of Celestials
Starting point is 02:22:37 is unknown. However, based on the available information, is likely that there are at least dozen Celestials in existence. But that doesn't really tell us how much they were original. God, I barely think about the Celestials. And that's part of the problem with the The MCU doesn't either. It's part of the problem with the focus of the MCU before it was just
Starting point is 02:22:53 like, focus on one thing, Thanos and Infinity Stones. And don't... Because they were going hand in hand, Thanos and the Infinity Stones. And it was unfolding in a way that wasn't telegraphing to you so far in advance that that's what it was. And then they made all these announcements for phase four through six. And they were like, oh, shit, all this stuff is coming and it's all connected.
Starting point is 02:23:15 And, yeah, all the stuff has been coming. But, like, it's so much less than all of that, you know, or so much less connected and mapped out, seeming. The original, but I appreciate the inquiry. Dead shot. Did you guys see Saw Exxon? What did you think? You better be careful, Sean. uh well i'll give you guys a quick to slam i have not seen saw x yet i was going to
Starting point is 02:23:37 their plan originally was let erin and terra catch up and then the four of us were going to do it uh all together yeah but then uh just the timing of everything and the way this the week was looking people leaving town it was a lot of chaos it was yeah and i had to work on other stuff i just just plain and simple had to do a bunch of other things that day. Well, they got to do the fun thing. I really literally, I was so sad. I was like chopping away and I just hear them screaming and like all this noise. And I was like, there you go to another room.
Starting point is 02:24:14 I honestly. And I was so, I was so worried that you guys are going to like say something as well. I still haven't seen it. No, the second we cut out, I was like, guys, be very careful. I don't want anything spoiled. Yeah, but I did, I did buy it for them. So I own it. As I'm going to, like, watch it.
Starting point is 02:24:30 I absolutely wanted to share that with you. I won't say much of anything. But as a soft fan for a long time through the ups and downs, it put joy into my heart, and I was very pleased. You know, I'm excited to discuss it. But, yeah, that's all I'll say. That's, I mean, the point, the original plan was for that. That's why I didn't watch in the theaters.
Starting point is 02:24:49 Because originally I was going to just go watch in the theaters. I've seen, like, most of them in the theaters. I've definitely seen. Pretty much all of them, yeah. Maybe there's been, like, two, I didn't catch in the theaters. theaters. No, I can't catch was the first. This is definitely the longest I've been without seeing
Starting point is 02:25:02 a saw a movie, that's for sure. I'm excited to hear your thoughts. MC, No Light. Thank you so much. I just think Noren, a rad story of serving Galactus only to save his home world.
Starting point is 02:25:14 Wife specifically is integral to the character, but I guess you could say she's wanting to save her husband. There's so much to that. I think you can do. Make a lesbian. Was, riddle me this was
Starting point is 02:25:28 was Norenrad's wife like a really specific big character or was it just the classic like I love my wife and want to save my wife so I'm going to do stuff because my wife like I don't know I think you know the answer John you can gender bend that in a way that works a billion like I don't want my
Starting point is 02:25:45 home world to die I miss my husband it can be whatever I don't think it's that big of a I don't think gender really means much to the DNA of the character yeah that's true it's like there's nothing that needs him to him or them to be whatever
Starting point is 02:26:01 you know yeah it's not like Miles Morales Morales needs to be you know of mixed ethnicity because that's who that cares part of the identity but like you know silver server can be as long as they're silver I think it's
Starting point is 02:26:15 fine I mean we don't really know the his like yeah like what's the wife's name do we know the wife's name does she have a name what's the wife's name Let me try to find it. Let me try to find it.
Starting point is 02:26:32 Shala Ball. Shalabal. Okay. He's a character from his home planet of Zen Law. He plays a significant role in his backstory, particularly in the narrative of why he serves as Harold de Plaquist. I think you can swap it with anybody who is important at you.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Essentially. Hey, Galaxy Geeks, thank you for being here. Thank you for showing up. Hey, there you go. Got some people know the name in the chat. Mrs. Rad. Nikki Minaj, Silver, Surface. she's already in the universe, so it makes sense.
Starting point is 02:26:59 Carson, I mean, no, I think it's not a big deal if you just make, I really don't. This isn't like us being Mr. Progressive over here. I just don't give a shit. Like, who gives a shit? It's more about the demeanor and the look of the care. You could have the exact same motivation for a,
Starting point is 02:27:17 it doesn't have to say, they can be another woman. It could be a lesbian couple. Or they even call it that. The Silver Surfer is now a big gay family. Let it be. Who cares? Who gives his shit? As long as they're silver and they're just like sort of cut like the quintessential human specimen, I think that's...
Starting point is 02:27:38 Look, he already doesn't have genitalia. Yeah. Just give Silver Surfer a huge rack. Yes. It's the same bald red. No, keep the bald head. Don't even give her hair if you make it a woman. Bald head with a huge red.
Starting point is 02:27:54 drag. Yes. I think. And big curvy hips. Yes. A giant ass. Yeah, like a fertility goddess silver surfer.
Starting point is 02:28:04 Like make it look like the hottest mannequin you've ever seen. They're going to have to find somebody who is like fit and has a dancer body. Probably is what they're going to do. It's mocap, dude. I'm just like, if they do make her a woman, make her buff you cowards.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Just make her buff. Big booby. One thing I'll always say for Zach Snyder is like the Amazonians in his themisgira are like built and that's what's up look I don't care of what your opinion is on Zach Snyder here's what we know yeah he knows how to capture human
Starting point is 02:28:36 anatomy with this this like oozing awe that you've never quite seen he would have like sculpted the craziest David if he was in that era yeah oh dear totally yeah the most admiration the most like
Starting point is 02:28:52 ether get the silver surfer why not you know it's fine it works yeah i can kind of even see it this is a problem i can see niobe silver server carson hudkins thank you carson chris pratt and pedro pascal starring in scream seven confirmed i would love that i don't for some reason i cannot imagine the two of them in the same thing but either of them in a scream pedro is on the verge though of being cast and too much. He's dancing all over the line.
Starting point is 02:29:30 I'm not there. I think it's because he's in big things. He's like in the big franchises. And people and just people fucking love him. Because people were like people are like, I just feel like
Starting point is 02:29:42 he's like the go-to name for everything. I'm like, I don't think he is. I rarely hear his name. Like you can't say he's the go-to name for everything when people were talking about Reed Richards. No one brought up. Yeah, no what he brought him. Yeah, so you can't, and there were people who were saying, like, he's just like to go to.
Starting point is 02:29:58 I'm like, but no, he's not. He's a go to for a type of role now. Yeah, yeah, but, um, and, but there is a thing where I'm like, okay, he's, he's in a lot of the big stuff now. And Chris Pratt is not versatile enough in his voices to be doing all the voices. I got to say that. I did preview that Garfield trailer and I was like, it fits, but it's not. He's just not versatile enough in the voices, you know. I, this is the, that is what I'll agree with.
Starting point is 02:30:24 It's like, you need to dial back some of this Chris Pratt and every animated thing. If it's only been two. I mean, he's done like other animated shit, but I'm like, two big ones now. We might need to dial that back a little bit. This is the first time in a long time where I have been like marveling at how good his people must be. Because it's such a meme. And yet, like, whoever's his booking agent, like, must have some kind of crazy Illuminati skills or a lot of dirt or both on people. Because, yeah, like, I'm like, he's, I forgot he was Garfield,
Starting point is 02:30:58 but I was like, this seems like a joke. Someone's pulling on me. Right. I'm right there with you. Goat Nation. What up, Goat Nation? Greatest of all time. You're saying you guys are amazing. You're amazing. I'd make a love to your super chat, Goon Nation.
Starting point is 02:31:14 Because you're amazing. I'm just going to refresh this really quick to make sure we're not missing anything. I don't refresh shit. We should probably, we do got other things you got it too. so we could have Thanksgiving. Oh, my God. What? Chris, you generous.
Starting point is 02:31:29 Chris. We've got to get to that. Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. Christopher. Christian wham off. I would say stop, Chris, but I'm hoping that there comes a point
Starting point is 02:31:39 where you're going to just ask for all of it. Hey, I have destitute now. I've made a big mistake. Any chance you still have. It would be so fun. Yes. Oh, my God. It's okay, Chris.
Starting point is 02:31:56 Now there's a pressure. We're going to erect a statue of Chris here. Holy shit. Can we get your likeness? We need Zach Snyder to shoot Chris. That would be the last thing we read is Chris Whammo. Dedicate too much time. Damn.
Starting point is 02:32:10 Miss Teodora. I recognize your profile. That is Micasa from the Attack on Titan finale. Happy Wednesday, my love. Excited for the new Doctor Who? Very much. fucking lootly. We're excited for the new doctor.
Starting point is 02:32:25 Can't wait for it. More timey, wimy, wibbly wobbly. Reverse the polarity. All on Z. Alon Z. There you go. Terrifier 3 trailer. I haven't seen it. Have you seen any of the terrifiers? No. Or apparently there's terrifiers and there's all through the night.
Starting point is 02:32:46 There's like a movie that sets up Art the Clown and then there are terrifiers. And that's like a Christmas movie. So like I'm like, ooh, maybe this. Christmas movie would be the good place to start. Christmas horror is a really hard one to crack. It is. It is. What do we got? We got crampus, we got Gremlins,
Starting point is 02:33:03 and we got Black Christmas. It's just you really It's just... First time live... Oh, thank you so much. Super, thank you. Damn, that's a fucking chat. I just... Oh, okay. Omar.
Starting point is 02:33:16 I'm going to have some heavy stuff to talk about, but thank you for joining it for the first time. Thank you. and Christian Go check out the creator It's pretty decent Did you see the Nasrato Tees by Robert Eggers? No
Starting point is 02:33:29 Let's look at it Oh, let's see it All I heard was he said He said like I can't see Bill Scarsgard Like he's just not there He's so in the role that he's just not there Bill Scarsgarde's playing it huh?
Starting point is 02:33:43 Yeah I see it There's so many Scarsguards Is he just like a It's just like a text? Or is it an actual photo? Oh, no, there's an actual photo. Oh, golly, wowie.
Starting point is 02:33:55 Let's see it. What do we got? What do we got? Come on, give me a high-res empire. It's a channel that has ads on their videos. I'm so much annoyed when I encounter it. It's my stuff. I'm very zen about it.
Starting point is 02:34:10 Whenever I see an ad. I'm watching an ad on anything independent that I care to support. I'm just trying to like to read something. Because I think, okay, ads on a video or, I'm just like, you just have to hear it. Like skip ad butter if you really want to, right? Yes. But like on an article, it's like, oh, man, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:34:26 How do I get around this thing? Yeah. So it's just his fingers looming, his outstretched hand looming across the young ingenue's face. Damn, a Robert Eggers, Nosphiratu is going to be something special. Yeah, boy. That seems like an ideal project. Because you just know that that is going to be like, I don't know what they're talking about. They're speaking way too akin to the time period.
Starting point is 02:34:48 My soul just feels dark. Is there subtitles? Why is there no subtitles? Yeah. This is English? Oh, wow. This is English, I guess. I still haven't seen The Northman. I've only seen The Witch of his movies, actually. Really? Yeah, I haven't seen The Lighthouse yet.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Nah, man, it's a good movie. Why'd you spill your beans? Terrify, we'll definitely be watched this Frankenstein, I hope so. King Tut. On another note, thank you, King Tut. Oh, let's give us a chance to talk about something. I don't know. Who would you rather see
Starting point is 02:35:19 come out of Sony Spider-Vers Live-action movies? Scarlet Spider, Ben Riley, or Spider-Man 299? I think Spider-Man 2099, I mean, I know there's a lot of champion right now for Scarlet Spider.
Starting point is 02:35:31 I feel like Scarlet Spider wouldn't... Oh, man, now I'm like so back and forth in my own brain about it. I feel like Scarlet Spider suits what their universe is better. Yes, yes. But, I mean, there's something.
Starting point is 02:35:46 I guess it just depends on the film. Like, for what Spider-Man films are currently like, I think Spider-Man 2099 for shit with, like, multiverse. And kind of like a more, trying to go for like a more approachable, darker approach. Yeah. I think Spider-Man 299 kind of makes a little bit more sense. It would be a good tire around.
Starting point is 02:36:08 Or Scarlet Spider's a little bit more something you would kind of laugh at a little bit right now. There's a way to make him cool. but in the tandem of things I'm assuming the question is coming from like not not just adapting the scarlet spider spider spider's tournament like actually pulling them from the across the spider verse films and putting them in a live action that's how I'm reading this question because you're saying it's so many spider verse I think it would make 299 makes more sense to do that and would be more accessible and adaptable because right now scarlet spider is a bit just of a one no joke. Well, I think that's the thing, yeah, is if you use, if you bring in Spider-Man 2099, that actually seems like a conscientious choice
Starting point is 02:36:56 because that establishes, I think that would just make an easy in-road to have a Ben Riley than after that, you know, it just gives your multiverse in live action for Sony. A lot more credence, I think, if you, yeah, and plus you'd have the surprise of like, oh shit, it's Oscar Isaac,
Starting point is 02:37:13 you know, or something like that. I don't know if you do it, but, you know, at least the recognition of oh, damn, $2,99's in live action. This clearly implies things. And then, yeah. Yeah, but it's my take. That's my take. But I think Ben Riley, if they weren't planning to do a crossover that culminates in a Spider-Man 4 or something, if they were just keeping this like one-offs, I would say, Brennan Riley.
Starting point is 02:37:35 Guys, we have immensely lost track of the time we've been. Nah, not us, G, never. I think John and I really needed a live stream today. We needed a loose one. We really need it. We really needed a, like, just a fun, loose one today. But, damn, we have really lost track of time. We were supposed to, the idea was just to go from 12 to 2. And I'm like, oh, we are so, we've just got it.
Starting point is 02:37:57 6 p.m. And honestly, we've been enjoying our, I've really been enjoying this so much being here. And it's been just to, like, sit back. Like, the live streams I enjoyed, it's just like having the conversation has been so fun. We're not going to end right now because we don't end the stream of that. governing all of our super chats and everything like that. This has been incredibly enjoyable. Another first time soup.
Starting point is 02:38:22 Thank you so much. We are going to hit the button in just a couple minutes to not allow anymore. That would be a nicer way of phrasing it, where you guys cannot be so kind anymore to donate to the super chats. But we want to make sure we read them all up. But yeah, man, we've got like several more hours of things today. too. And we want to make sure we can have our Thanksgiving. Also, sorry. All Hallows Eve and Art is played by a different guy.
Starting point is 02:38:52 So sorry for the misinformation there, Terrify it's Reef the Christmas one. It is. No, I mean, honestly, like, this has been really, it's been extremely enjoyable being here. Like, a lot of times we do live streams and I, and I just kind of just wanted to stay here all day. Yeah. Because they're so fun. Oh, sir. It's just fun to have the conversation, you know? Yeah. Because a lot of times when you're filming videos, you know, especially when I'm like,
Starting point is 02:39:14 these movie and show reactions and a lot of times I'm like so aware of that of the edit and and it's like my mind has to kind of be simultaneously in two places at once and I'm aware of like time all these things so and and for this
Starting point is 02:39:31 it's just like ah just let's just sit back relax and just enjoy a conversation and I'll spend an obnoxious amount of time on one question you know MC versus versus you know being like fucking grubes Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 02:39:45 Don't feel the need to chop, chop. Now we've got it carried away. We are way, now it's like, now the other shit we got to do is going to feel like that. And we're like, fucker-go-go-c-cuh-cuh. It's so enjoyable. MC, no-lite. If super chats aren't working for you,
Starting point is 02:40:00 you might, well, if you're commenting, you're subscribed. You're lying. We kind of bring that as one of the audios. You're lying. Brian Cranston from Godzilla. Remember that? It's not a typhoon.
Starting point is 02:40:11 Yeah. We just need the, you're lying. Yeah, that was like the. It's the Brian Cranston impression quote. God. I fucking, guys, I got to say, I'm revisiting Monarch, it's for some reason making me go back to the 2014 Godzilla movie. I genuinely think that movie is severely underrated.
Starting point is 02:40:32 When I rewatched those films leading into Godzilla v. Kong. In court of long. No, no, I mean, that's Batman v. Superman. Yes. I just feel like it saves time. VECON. Yes, it does. And the explanation following also saves.
Starting point is 02:40:55 Get a whole syllable back, you know. So much you could do with that. Like explain taking out the syllable. But Godzilla VECA. But 2014 Godzilla's is my favorite of the Monsterverse movies. It's the most of an actual film, you know. The rest of them seem like they're trying to find out how to be the most marketable versions of themselves.
Starting point is 02:41:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I like, I like Kong Sol Island. I like, I like King of the Monsters, and I know 2014's the one. But I honestly think the presence, Shin Godzilla reaction coming this weekend. He hasn't seen it. So good. He hasn't seen it. But he's, him and Andrew.
Starting point is 02:41:39 I'm excited, boy. I was like, we're doing it, guys. All I've heard is doing it. It's doing it. Yeah, and to me, I think the, there's like two ways to capture Godzilla, and I think the, capturing it from the people's perspective and the obscurity makes those moments so rewarding and the fear of Godzilla. And, like, you get these, like, cathartic moments.
Starting point is 02:42:03 Like, that's the one that gives you that extended roar. Yeah. You know, where he's just at the screen and he sees the muto. Like, I love this shit out of that, 20s. 2014 one. I really do. I think it's fucking phenomenal. I think it is like I love the movie as a whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:21 Yeah, yeah, not just the last 10 minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not just like we're not just oh, finally Godzilla. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think the movie admittedly I didn't love it as much the first time I saw it because I was not prepared for that. Yeah, yeah. But going into it a couple years later, knowing that
Starting point is 02:42:39 I was really able to appreciate everything about it. And it is my favorite one of them all. And I'm not trying to be like cool, contrarian opinion guy. It is just my, personally my favorite one of the films. And then I would put Godzilla-V-Cong. Not versus Kong. Just to explain.
Starting point is 02:42:58 It's not versus the actual title, but I say V-Cong to save time. Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you bought us so much. Guy Coast. Andres, good to see you, bud. Happy Thanksgiving, my friends. What movies do you find your? yourself watching on Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 02:43:16 Matt Colton, he already watched it. So your heads up is a little late. Uh-oh. What movies do you find yourself watching on Thanksgiving? You know, I was thinking about this when I was exercising today. My mind was saying, like, if I have time tomorrow, I would love to rewatch the bad. I don't know what. I don't have like a go-to Thanksgiving film.
Starting point is 02:43:38 I don't have that for this holiday. maybe kills the flower I don't know I don't have I don't have yeah we did talk with the car because I don't have like a go-to Thanksgiving movie but I haven't seen the Batman
Starting point is 02:43:56 on as I own it on Blu-ray and I haven't seen it on on the nice TV we have I've only seen it in the theaters but I saw it in theaters three times so it would be like It would be kind of cool. It's sort of, because I feel like sometimes I appreciate even more at home,
Starting point is 02:44:15 because I can just sort of see the whole picture easier. Yeah. And you can examine in a different way. Yeah, and I just haven't had that enjoy. And no seating experience is going to be more comfortable than my couch. Because honestly, three hours in any movie theater gets a little uncomfortable. So, yeah, I would like to, my mind is telling me try to watch that. Sure.
Starting point is 02:44:38 That's a good, I feel like this is a good November movie. You know, it's very rain, it's very gray, it's very dreary of the season. True. I feel like my answers will all be sort of more, you know, kind of chinty than that. Like, Adam's Family Values is a great one, I think. I feel like we often pull out, like, if we're, like, doing the family pie thing after dinner, it's usually like a classic, like, Meet Me in St. Louis or something like that. I want to watch some of the Thanksgiving-themed horror movies that are out there.
Starting point is 02:45:10 You know, Thanksgiving. Spyglass Entertainment's Thanksgiving, baby! I'm just going to turn a Playa, go watch that for a minute. I really think that should have been a streaming movie. I've heard it's good. I've heard it is good. And I support the theatrical release. That just seems like you would have had a better gamble on streaming.
Starting point is 02:45:30 It seems like the kind of thing you would ideally want to do what they do with the Halloween or Five Nights of Freddy's where you do a day and date so that people at home can watch it and people who go to the movies on Thanksgiving can also watch it. I mean, you probably wouldn't have as, because at least with those like Halloween and Five Nights, you have an actual chance of making money at the theaters. Versus this, I feel like most people would be like, well, I'm just going to fucking, I don't know,
Starting point is 02:45:54 what the fuck is this, just watch this at home. But I think because of the positive reception it had, I think people would have actually been like, you know, making TikToks about it and creating a social media conversation around it. And then you would have been able to attract, lot of attention for it versus I don't know
Starting point is 02:46:13 there's something that's a really it's a really hard sell like for anything horror related post Halloween like I'm talking unless it's like specifically that like a yeah I'm not talking January I'm talking literally Thanksgiving and Christmas
Starting point is 02:46:28 it's a really fucking hard sell because that's not what the kind of movies people are in the mood for it's November 1st man people are like let's get cheery yeah and I think it's especially stupid when movies decide to release horror movies like a few days after Halloween.
Starting point is 02:46:45 Like when they did that for Overlord. Like that was one of the dumbest, I'll never forget that. Like, what an idiotic decision. You could make a whole film festival out of movies that should have been released for Halloween season. Just this year alone, I've heard people lament like, Renfield and the haunted mansion
Starting point is 02:47:00 probably would have done a lot better if they put them out at the time where people want to do a haunted house. I don't understand the reasoning for. a lot of these decision makings of like it's pretty simple guys there's a time where people are in the move
Starting point is 02:47:15 for spooky stuff yeah put it out then fuck go September if you have to yeah don't go in April what are you doing and especially when most of you most of these theaters they most
Starting point is 02:47:30 studios know that their best bet are not really going to be a Barbie when you're going to get all these crazy repeat viewings odds are Are you going to experience some, like, 50 to 70% dip your second week? That's your likelihood. So why not just take advantage of the Halloween season? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:50 Even if there's more saturation, people are going to be looking for these kinds of movies. Exactly. Put it, like, end of September then. Like, get you in the mood. Or, heck, end of August, if we're really stretching. But, yeah, something that looms Halloween rather than, you know, is April. It's so stupid. Or November, you know, 20th or something like that.
Starting point is 02:48:07 Because, yeah, I mean, it's a really hard. sell this fucking like even Thanksgiving even if it's like oh we're doing a Thanksgiving a themed you know a holiday it's it's it's a tough one there's still a debate is Night before Christmas a Halloween or Christmas movie that's a November movie to me it's for
Starting point is 02:48:22 that's perfect November for the transition perfect yeah it's perfect yeah like I always want to stop halfway through whenever I go to Disney if it never happens now but like the times when I've been to Disneyland in October I'm always a little bit like I like Nightmare for Christmas but I kind of want the haunted mansion
Starting point is 02:48:38 vibes right now. You know, like that's an after Halloween movie. Yeah, and I think I think Blade releasing in November is like, guys, don't do, come on. Come on. I can almost, it's like it should be released in time for Halloween.
Starting point is 02:48:54 They should be capitalizing on Halloween. I can see how an action horror movie might still perform, but it's still funky. I think you give your like your A-24 horror movies between January to June. Those ones that aren't like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:10 Like your talk to me's. Yeah, these dramatic horror movies. Yeah, you put them there. Put the cerebral horror stuff. Your nopes. Sure. Your horror genre splices. But then you do your, yeah, I know we really got to go through the chats.
Starting point is 02:49:30 Look, guys, I'm sorry. People are name checking planes trains, which you reacted to. You're not going to watch them, Thanksgiving? Yeah, I got to. I've never seen it. I got a pot, yeah, because we do have, man, I'm just enjoying this. If we could just do this all day. If we could just do this all day, I would.
Starting point is 02:49:47 I can do this all day. I can just live chat all. Because, you know, we have a lot of, this allows us to get a variety of topics out of the way. It's fun, John. It is fun. Excuse me for having a good time talking with people and seeing what everyone has to say. I'm the asshole. No, okay, so what were we talking about, John?
Starting point is 02:50:11 We were talking about it. Just turning out the, whoever was the last super is the last super. I just feel like it would be easier to do. Nothing is easy. Nothing is easy. When everything is up to 500% nothing is easy. Oh, we're all zoomed. Okay, okay, Jonathan.
Starting point is 02:50:29 You have the thing right there. Where? I don't see it. Scroll down gently, very gently. Oh, it's right there. Okay, my bad. Oh, I didn't see it there. Yeah, it's a bit easy.
Starting point is 02:50:37 Then it gives me my thread. Yeah, are you sure? If you continue, your fans will no longer see Super Chats as a purchase option, and you'll no longer earn revenue from it. Ever again until you get the full slider. Revenue is everything. Buy Pockeman's expensive cookies to do. Oh, yeah, get a Mr. Beast bar.
Starting point is 02:50:59 Get some broke-ass bitches out there. What's the Logan Paul drink? What a Pokemon say? I was like, oh, girl. I actually kind of like you, man. I actually enjoy you. You're saying some tone-deaf shit right now. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:51:14 What did Pokemon do? Something about, like, people bitching about her expensive-ass cookies and then she made a joke. Oh, no. To make you a broke-ass something. And I was like, oh, girl, what'd you say? Don't slag your young fans. You're one of those people.
Starting point is 02:51:29 I'm progressively having a harder time in admitting I enjoy watching police. Sure. It's not making this hard for me. You're not helping us. You're enjoyable to me. I just feel like girl gamers get a much harder rep, and I have no idea why. Girls don't game.
Starting point is 02:51:45 Girls don't ever have a hard time. It's the woke left trying to pull one over on you. True, true. Yeah. It's good thing we're going to have the chat in front of us right now, because we don't know what the fuck they're saying. And Doris are just the comments throughout this phone. Harry Potter's come out over Thanksgiving to some time.
Starting point is 02:52:02 John, we must. There is, there is unfortunately a busy day. Aisha Kenya. How many people we still have? Nine. Six hundred eighty one. Still six hundred eighty one people. That's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 02:52:13 On the day before Thanksgiving. Yeah, Wednesday for Thanksgiving. Afternoon. That's pretty awesome to me, man. Aisha Kenya. Thank you for for chiming in once again. We do appreciate you. You hold it down in the chat.
Starting point is 02:52:26 She's here all the time. Yeah. I appreciate you, Aisha. Seriously, she's here all the time. Yeah. And then we do have some super stream labs as well. People can sneak in some. I see you camera, MJ.
Starting point is 02:52:39 We'll get there. Sliding into the stream M's. She's saying in this somewhat toxic world, you two are a breath of fresh air. I'm thankful you both. Hey, Bonnie, I'm thankful you both exist. We love you guys. Thank you, Ayesha.
Starting point is 02:52:56 You're always here, and you're always very supportive and positive. And I really, really take notice of that. Even if we don't have an opinion you agree with, I know it's always very respectable. So thank you. Much love to you. We do our best to be the same. It's hard to be non-toxic.
Starting point is 02:53:13 It's constant work to be non-toxic in a toxic world. We're always lying. And we're always worried that we're secretly terrible. And yes, I will get Andrew to watch some Tarantino movies on this channel. He made a terribly calculated mistake. I'm going to expose Andrew right now. Do you remember when I said, in this. Oh.
Starting point is 02:53:35 You're watching Kill Bill here. Yes, I did. They recorded it. That's synophiles. And I was like, what did you just? You broke your pact. Dude. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 02:53:50 I'm going to kill you. I'm going to rip that mustache right off your face. Then I called Jabby and I said, don't you dare upload that video? And he said, what? Public. Uh-oh. And then I said, you're not coming over for you. You're not coming over for Thanksgiving, Jabby.
Starting point is 02:54:06 Damn, Jabvis, Cablavus. The Dumer. Moment of silence. Thank you. Yeah. Go listen to some MF Doom. Just the rest of the child. I know, Doomer, you are already. I keep thinking that, that blot on your, the splat on your jacket is, is a, is something wrong with the camera.
Starting point is 02:54:27 Nope, nope, it's his blood. You guys are always super genuine and nice. I'd like to think so. We do our best I like to think sincerity is the name of the game Oh it's cool to be on the background at work Sound off if you're at work and we're on in the background I haven't seen succession yet
Starting point is 02:54:44 No no no I haven't Oh my life is a constant dichotomy of me going Fuck I wish I had a camera pointer And then going I wish I could just do anything Without a camera pointed to me Yeah man That is the switch. Koi is in the chat.
Starting point is 02:55:06 No fucking way. Look how handsome. Koi is. Koi, we miss you. We love you. Do a rant in the chat. Chat rant Koi. Guys, say something offensive about something and
Starting point is 02:55:17 Koi will go off on you. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody give Koi something to go off about it. Thanks, Omni, for being here. Shout out to Koi. How's your girlfriend, Koi? How's your attractive
Starting point is 02:55:26 black girlfriend that you are dating? So that way you don't look racist. Eating for this world. Oh, God. Jesus Christ. No. No. No, we're not feeding this.
Starting point is 02:55:41 We should feed it. Yes, we should. Coy. Coy. Toy. How is your non-racist relationship? Sorry. Ever since that stream, Coy, it's going to be the reoccurring.
Starting point is 02:55:55 People just existing is really hard. It's a reoccurring joke from you, my friend. He's going to leave right now. Koi's only dated good-looking people Oh It's really distracting That's part of the criteria on You know
Starting point is 02:56:09 He's like Scientology Get an ugly one in there once in a while would you And yeah And there's chemistry tests and stuff It's getting annoying It's getting annoying It's looking self-indulgent Eight-Leged Freaks is the best
Starting point is 02:56:22 Spider- Reverse story ever She's gorgeous No They're both lucky people Are we a lot of their name? I know She's gorgeous. She is.
Starting point is 02:56:32 Yeah, and she's, oh man, she is a, Coy's, I don't know if we're a lot of Sarah's name or not. I'll wait for Coy to say. Coy and Mrs. Coy. I think she has a very grounded personality, and I think she's a perfect balance for the kind of eccentricities that Coy brings. And I could, like, she really,
Starting point is 02:56:56 even like the, Because I really liked her a lot when I met her prior to them becoming officially boyfriend and girlfriend. And I was extreme. I was kind of aggressive to Coy about push. I was pushing towards really like. This is a keep of Coy. No, I was that attitude about it of like you really should ask her to be a girlfriend and you really should like have that conversation. I was very not going to go to the personal conversations too much.
Starting point is 02:57:27 I'm just saying, like, I really liked her a lot, and I was very supportive. And then the time I saw them for the first time since being official was on my birthday. And you could just see that chemistry with them and the balance and the acceptance of two very different personalities where there is an ease to them. And yeah, I think she's, I think she's a wonderful human being. And very creative, too, and funny and honest. Sharp. There's a savvy. It's a true.
Starting point is 02:57:57 It's true. She reads of sincerity. And, yeah, she's great. And more importantly, she helps Koi not look racist. Yes. Always. It's hard out here for a guy who looks as Neo as Koi does. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:58:11 Ever since he shaved his head again, I was like, what the fuck? What are you doing? You're already a blonde Boston guy. You better date a non-white woman, Koi. To balance this out. We've picked some people out. That was the conversation. I didn't.
Starting point is 02:58:26 want to tell you guys but that was what it was okay was me being coy look man you got the shaved head white boy thing going on you got to pull the bill burn yeah yeah yeah yeah also hey it would be good if you maybe go out and like do some charitable work or feed the homeless or something just help your really really talk about it too help your image out yeah um this is all facts to any of this is all authentic genuine facts did coy go I've been her hide my phone so my girlfriend doesn't hear any of this way yeah is she upset now have you just made an enemy are they're fighting right now no pizano gamers feelings on beast being cg oh my god no i i i fucking hated that shit you really this was i think the first time where you were much more incensed about that
Starting point is 02:59:18 that i was i i don't love the choice but i wasn't like no whoa john yeah i I would much prefer a practical beast. We have like 48 movies of beast being practical. Yeah, no, I agree. You don't just fucking go. But it's exactly what the MCU would do. It's exactly what they would do. I'm not giving it a pass.
Starting point is 02:59:40 I don't know. I don't care how old, Kelsey Grammar is. You put that old-ass Republican in that blue makeup. All right. I mean, sure. Again, I'm not going to argue too hard against a practical effect. You know, and I don't know. The thing is, part of me is curious because I'm like,
Starting point is 02:59:56 I don't know if we're there. The thing is, like, if we're there and it looks great, then fine. But, you know, I don't know if we're there. Yeah, yeah, no. I'm not a fan of it. I think it's very distracting, and it pulls me out of the believability of it. This is going to be fun, Josh. That's part of the awe.
Starting point is 03:00:13 That's part of the awe to it when you see Beast in practical effects. I don't even care if at first you're like, oh, it looks a little weird because you get used to it. And then it feels realistic. It's there. And part of it, of the realism is beast doesn't want to fucking look like a beast. Like, he doesn't want to look that way. And he's had to, he's trying, he's had to accept himself as a mutant. And part of that is to have that effect when you first see him.
Starting point is 03:00:45 And you're like, oh, it looks a little weird. Because you want to react that way. And to have that tangibility, that believability and makeup where you're like, oh, that's odd. I think that's important. Yeah, I do. I think it's important. And especially if you're going to,
Starting point is 03:01:05 it's important to me, especially if you are carrying over a character portrayal that is preexisting. If you're doing a brand new take, if you're doing a brand new take, like Seattle's pointing out in the chat, Groot, Hulk, Thanos, all brand new for the MCU, even Hulk prior in Aang Lee's, CGI. They did not do practical. But if you are bringing over Kelsey Grammer Beasts from the X-Men movies, who has been practical, then you should be giving, I will fight to the death that that should be practical effect. That makes sense.
Starting point is 03:01:43 I agree. All right. All right. Come here, buddy. Come here, copper. Let's get this going. Come here. I know you're hungry.
Starting point is 03:01:50 I'm hungry, too. I did not eat like a dumb ass. John Stang. drop from Joshua we're very Palestine. Interesting you chose to do a live on this without also condemning the terrorist attack on October 7th. Thanks a lot John. Yeah, this is my fault.
Starting point is 03:02:05 I would love to know what the rest of the sentence that I said... I was trying to bait into getting a super chat here. Yeah, yeah. Follow up with the end of that sentence so I know exactly how to respond to this. Of course I... What do you mean? Like I didn't condemn it on the day.
Starting point is 03:02:22 What did I say before we were on live? I said, you be careful. about how, because I'm going to pinpoint everything we say. I know. I'm going to find a way. Or didn't say. Or didn't say. I mean, what else can I say?
Starting point is 03:02:34 Of course I condemn a terrorist attack. I condemn wanton violence. I recognize that the attack itself exists in a much greater continuum than I am well-versed in. So I understand that there's like a greater context happening than
Starting point is 03:02:54 just the isolated moment. But I've, yeah, like, do I wish it was everything that day had been different and a bunch of people didn't die and this whole conflict didn't get, you know, completely re-galvanized and recalibrated? Like, yeah, I do, I would love to live on that timeline. I absolutely am not pleased with that. It just seems like the way you talk about everything else. Yes.
Starting point is 03:03:15 That. As I would be, I would be for this. Yeah, I would be the kind of guy who would be like, go. It is, it would be lost in the... Massacre whoever you want to for, for what. Whatever purpose, really. That was the problem, John, is it seemed confusing to me because I was like, wow. Sorry, guy.
Starting point is 03:03:31 I didn't mean to give you the impression that I loved to do it. No, I, like, I don't know. I still just want to know what the sentence I said was. Did I say we're very palestine? Yeah, I agree with want to be in the chat. Yeah, like, everything is John's fault. Why hasn't you condemned every single bad thing that has ever happened? In public, yeah, I need to be on Twitter always
Starting point is 03:03:55 because I am not the expert to be hearing. Nobody needs my thoughts on this because I am just forming them. The easiest way for me to say it is like if you don't, it's one thing to condemning the acts of government is one thing and then, or like, condemning the acts of government is one thing, but then to take it out
Starting point is 03:04:19 on people, just people in general, the innocent people, whether you're Israeli or Palestinian, is the thing that we can confidently state that we do not support that side of it at all. Like we can go into a whole debate forever, which we're not going to do, refuse to. You know, right now you can say whatever you want in the chat.
Starting point is 03:04:41 We're not going to. It is the idea that, like, people who are suffering for things that they should not be suffering for. Yeah. Just like people, living their fucking lives. And people who are embroiled in a conflict that not everybody is on board for.
Starting point is 03:04:58 The most challenging aspect of this has been learning how to hold two ideas in mind that wanton violence and loss of life is bad, but also people who feel intensely oppressed will go to extreme measures to break that cycle of oppression and it usually takes really harsh action to do that. And I don't know what to do with that morally. This whole situation has sort of forced us to say,
Starting point is 03:05:23 sit here and kind of hold two ideas that really conflict in mind and sort of try and come up with an answer that people haven't been able to for so much time now. Like, I just don't understand how, I feel like this food is a really deep montage, so fuck it. Like, I'll be, I'll be so much of the, like, I'm always asking questions. I'm always trying to have conversations, so I can just keep learning, keep learning, keep learning. You know, and I try to get both sides. I really do. People who are willing to just actually have a conversation or me to kind of push back on something
Starting point is 03:05:56 when I question something. That's just not going to happen here on the stream. It won't. It's not going to happen here. We can solve this today. It's not going to happen with someone's typing something to me. No. And I just want
Starting point is 03:06:13 when I see stuff of like all these children in like Gaza especially. You know, as of late, of when you're watching, like, these raw fucking videos of what's happening to children out there, I'm like, I have the hardest time, not one part of me can get on board with, like, you just, you just watch you're like, there's got to be another way. There's got to be a way it's not this. There's got to be another way. Like, so much of Gaza is made up of children. And when you see what's happening to them, it does feel like the sentiments that Melissa is expressing.
Starting point is 03:06:50 We're just like, God, these people are, they are suffering at the, I'm not going to deep dive into it. I'm just saying that right now, like, you can't, I'm not, I don't, if you just take time, like 15, 20 minutes, you watching videos of what's happening to them, like the actual raw videos, whatever ounce of uncomfortability you feel will not equal an atom of discomfort that they are. feeling over there. It is truly horrendous what is happening to them. I saw somebody the other day put it as like your discomfort is their entire reality right now. Every waking moment.
Starting point is 03:07:32 Yeah. You know? Yeah. And I get people like I like get asked Chris Wammoth. You know like I try to find like it's so hard to find so yeah. What happened October 7th? Terrible what like I don't agree with like a fucking killing innocent
Starting point is 03:07:48 Jews like I don't. You should be Jewish people should be getting fucking killed for it I think you can you can kind of arrive at this like I am pro you know the real like the regular people
Starting point is 03:08:00 the real people just trying to live life the Jews the Arabs you know the Palestinians the Israelis who are just trying to live life and have a place to be safe they should both have that but I'm also you can do that and also kind of be like the IDF and Hamas are both
Starting point is 03:08:15 problematic to put it so very lightly Like, yeah, neither of these groups of people It's the sad thing If you have these two warring governing factions That are so different from the people that they should be And kind of are fighting for
Starting point is 03:08:36 But I think that it's kind of even beyond that And now, you know, we're getting into territory That I don't feel really comfortable commenting Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like to say that like, yeah, of course we want people of Palestine to be free but we condemn the actions from us, and then some people will like pokeholes
Starting point is 03:08:52 and some things of us saying that, right? And I'm like, of course I want, why would I not want people to have their freedom? Well, yeah, and of all the arguments out there to have this is. I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. I'm not. I'm not going to say, I'm sorry. I'm not saying that, like, it is. It's a lot.
Starting point is 03:09:08 Yeah. It's a lot. And, yeah, it's complex. It's ever changing. We're in the thick of it right now. And it's one of those things that is not, there's not as, easily defined, you know, again,
Starting point is 03:09:20 when it comes to, like, sexual misconduct or racism or sexism in the public sphere, there are more strong identifiers to, you can find the right opinion to have, I feel like, for the most part, whereas with this situation, it's almost impossible to
Starting point is 03:09:36 come to, arrive in an opinion or a take or an assessment that everyone will agree, like, no matter where you land, there's going to be a bunch of people who vehemently disagree with you, no matter how, you know, based your take might be. A thousand percent.
Starting point is 03:09:51 Yeah. And that's the hard part of this and it's the hard part of seeing decisions like this with Melissa Barrera because we're like this is super fresh and is ongoing and it's only re-ignited something that has been going on for decades
Starting point is 03:10:06 and beyond that. I just feel like she was so fucking clear though. She was clear and she was careful to be compassionate condemning the actions of the fucking of the government and stuff that she disagrees with, but not condemning people.
Starting point is 03:10:23 She's not condemning Jewish people. She's not condemning, you know. And she takes great time to separate. She's explicit about that shit. The IDF is not all Jewish people, and Hamas is not all Palestinian people, and a lot of Palestinians don't love Hamas, and a lot of Jewish Israelis don't love Netanyahu.
Starting point is 03:10:40 They don't like, they want Palestinian freedom, too. Like, yeah, you can hold a bunch of ideas in mind at once. And I, and I, yeah. And I don't know. Like the category they lumped her into is just like, wow, what a bunch of bullshit. Yeah. And I'm not, I'm never the kind of guy to be like, I. Okay, never mind.
Starting point is 03:11:02 I want to move on. I do. I didn't want to move on. No, let's talk more about it. I want to move on. I do. I want to move on. All right.
Starting point is 03:11:10 So. So about fucking Nicholas Holt. He's great. Yeah, Jay. He's great. Let's talk about inconsequential stuff by comparison. too great but I was rooting
Starting point is 03:11:20 for Alexander Scarsgaard as Lex yes I copper come here buddy I'm sorry I know we were getting agitated Capito
Starting point is 03:11:33 I like to think that my cat comes here when he sees I'm agitated but then I look at the time and I go he just wants food no he knows you're agitated come here copper I think Nick
Starting point is 03:11:45 the whole is great and he'll do great I mean, I think, again, Alexander Scarsguard is kind of a really obvious pick, and I want to be pushing against the grain of things. Sometimes an obvious pick is like, my favorite kind of obvious picks are like, oh, yeah, why don't I think of that? Yeah. You know? That guy would be perfect. Like Jeffrey Wright as Commissioner Gordon.
Starting point is 03:12:13 Yeah. You're just like. I weren't thought of that, but that's great. yeah yeah yeah that that's perfect you know like I don't know why that seems so obvious but yes it works mm-hmm you know like that's a that's a perfect one Gia I don't know I'm Alexander Scarsgar for Lex I think Nicholas then again I would have been fine with Brian Cranston honestly that was the one where I that was the one of the ones where I was less enchanted where I was like I I know he can do this
Starting point is 03:12:46 you know, it would be fun, but I wouldn't be, like, dazzled at the thought of it. Yeah. But, you know, I think Nicholas Holt matches the age. Like, I don't, without knowing the actual ages of Alexander Scarsgaard
Starting point is 03:13:02 and Nicholas Holt, I just feel like he fits the youthful cast to me of what James Gunn seems to be putting together a bit better. But that's just me. That's me too. Sabra in Captain America 4. is not the hummus that you buy.
Starting point is 03:13:21 Nope. But doesn't she have, she has Israeli flag and stuff? Hell yeah. Interesting. Hell yeah. Let's get Roxy Stryor, Andrew Gordon, or Michael Tesler.
Starting point is 03:13:35 Yes. Marvel Vow's new approach to the character. Oh, golly. Oh, golly. Oh, golly. Oh, no. I don't know what to make of this.
Starting point is 03:13:48 John, say something that won't get you in trouble. Oh, sure. I think this is a great idea. Whatever they do to retool this character will be a-okay by everyone. I didn't know that this character existed until just now. And, yeah, she's starting to realize the inherent... Hold on a second.
Starting point is 03:14:08 Marvel's issued a statement on them? This is actually... Oh, my God, this is a real... She's really in this. Oh, my. An Israeli superhero. What's the statement? While our characters and stories are inspired by the comics,
Starting point is 03:14:23 there will always be freshly imagined for the screen in today's audience, and the filmmakers are taking a new approach with the character Sabra, who was first introduced in the comics over 40 years ago. Oh, my. See, when did they announce? We don't know anything about our backstory and stuff. We're all in our scenes, it's like the image of being a proud Israeli, so I don't really know exactly what the, you know, what, what,
Starting point is 03:14:44 What that'll... What that turns into, plot-wise. I don't know anything about our character. It mostly makes me wonder... I can't remember when they pushed the movie, and now I want to know. Because now I'm like, are they... Now.
Starting point is 03:14:54 Did they push the movie... They went now? Because of the conflict that is... Sabre's going to be like Ziva and NTIAS working for the USA, but it's Jewish. Ziva, shouts out. Cote de Pablo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:15:08 It'll be interesting. I mean, part of me just wonders if this... It seems like any time Marvel tries to do anything. think vaguely sociopolitical post is Winter Soldier like the stuff in the world gets too real and they have to retool
Starting point is 03:15:22 it all so I'm like did this happen here it certainly must be now all right right John John we're back at it Joshua A accountability God damn it John what did you say earlier in this chat to upset our Joshua guy so that he would
Starting point is 03:15:37 have to get in here and then even super chat to get your attention I mean, you're not wrong Using citizens as human shields is deplorable and is like a totally twisted way to advance your cause Absolutely. No one's debating that. No one's debating it. I think we
Starting point is 03:15:59 answered it extensively. I think we would all rather be in the cold version of this war certainly Or not in this conflict at all But like stuff a job. I've had a shitty last two months after losing my job and a girl that I thought loved me. Oh, I'm sorry. I've been there, man. I've been there.
Starting point is 03:16:20 Send in love for you. We'll each give you a hug. We'll hug the camera and you can transfer that onto you. We do need a coy. We need it a coy. No, man. Fucking dealing with, um... Coy can't handle this topic.
Starting point is 03:16:36 I mean, yeah. It's not like, it's not like any of the three of us are really an authority. on this topic. We're all learning day by day by piece by piece. Your videos got me through it all since I got a new job. I want to share some love. You're my Matthew Perry. Oh, that comment.
Starting point is 03:16:55 Fuck, it is going to make me cry. Don't say that. Damn. Dude. Oh, no, I'm getting a watery. I do you sound a bitch. Could you be. You fucking asshole.
Starting point is 03:17:07 Could you be any more of a shining light in my life? Oh, that's really touching. Yeah. That is a comment I did not expect it here. I like it. I love it. Thank you. Fuck that girl, man.
Starting point is 03:17:19 Over that girl. What was the score, man. She doesn't know what she's missing. She busted, bro. And that job? You don't need that job. She's frigging ugly, man. God.
Starting point is 03:17:31 If ever there was a set of sentiments that whenever it's given me, I'm always like, thank you for the intent. But also, I don't need these sentiments. I didn't even like her, man. No one liked her. Like, no, this isn't. helping. This is just making everything weirder and worse. And now I'm not going to trust you the next relationship if I get into it. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:17:52 That's really sweet. Thank you. Well, I'm sorry you're going through some pain right now, but that pain allowed you to make me feel really good. So the more pain you feel, the better I feel. That's a, I am a sadist like that. I'm a masochist. But no, I mean, I like hurting myself. Yes. What's the word? The sadist would mean I like to derive pleasure from you.
Starting point is 03:18:12 pain. Yeah, you enjoy that shot and Freuda. Yeah. So, Kevin Meek, man, very generous fucking super chat. We haven't even got her to do the massive, massive, massive one. This is a really big one. Thank you, my friend. Thank you. Oh, shit. This has been a very fascinating stream. Sure enough. John and I
Starting point is 03:18:34 thought we'd be a hit and quit it today. Yeah, we thought this would be slow and fellow. But no, we come for the real shit. No, man. Thank you. Thank you. That is very, very kind. Oh, shit, never catch you all live. Just want to say thanks. I'll help more than you can know.
Starting point is 03:18:49 Appreciate you guys. Thank you, Kevin Meek. Thank you. Yeah, we appreciate you. I never know what to come in here. You'd be holding it down. Such a generous fucking, like, super chat comes in. Do it dance.
Starting point is 03:19:00 And then, you know, and they don't give us something to answer. And I'm like, flex your biceps. What do I say that is so different to stand out to show my appreciation for such a generous super chat? Do like a peck dance. John is definitely the Ross. Sure. A thousand percent. Isn't no friends well enough to know,
Starting point is 03:19:19 but you're definitely the Davish one. I can see it. No, I mean, if I'm not Chandler and I, I mean, Joey's funny, but I don't want to be Joey. No one wants to be Joey. Yeah, you don't want to know Joey. You want to be Joey. So, oh, but no, but Stephen disagrees.
Starting point is 03:19:34 I guess I am at a little bit. Jeffrey would say John is Joey. That's good. I guess, I guess on Canada. I guess on camera, I am Joey. This is smart as fucking Joey I've ever heard of him. Yes. Smart at some things and dumb at other things.
Starting point is 03:19:47 That is a very, very kind super chat. Thank you. Thank you, Kevin. We love you. We love seeing your name pop up. Robo 96. Have you guys seen socks? John, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 03:20:00 Do you want a piece of cheese? Sure. I'm going to get a string cheese. You answer this question. You go get a piece of cheese. I'll keep it short. Yes, Greg has not seen it, be respectful. And I mean that because I was truly, truly, truly, truly bummed that we didn't all get to watch.
Starting point is 03:20:22 I wanted to share that experience with, like me and Greg share a love of Saw that, you know, I think a lot of people, I was a barista, in fact, I think a lot of people, you know, don't love Jigsaw in his various teachings as much as Greg and I do. So, yes. I really, really, really liked Saw 10, Saw X. I was very, as a Saw fan, I was pleased. My heart felt full. It felt very special and like a very lovely culmination. And I feel like, you know, if you wanted to end it now, you know, you don't have to, but you could and I would be, like, content.
Starting point is 03:21:00 Yeah, I really liked what they did with it. I really liked how they conceived it. And just, yeah, like the pitch, the tone, all that stuff. good ensemble you know it's probably like the best made film of all the saws so very much part of me is like bring on more
Starting point is 03:21:18 but part of me is also like we're good all right I'm holding the bread I'm holding the bread I'm holding the bread I'm holding the bread doing this is one of my random rush snacks oh I get you
Starting point is 03:21:31 I get you what you're going to do crunch cheese and tube you're making like a poor man's cheese teatio right now it's keto bread So it's only like 30 calories, no sugar added, low carbs. She's to keto. So here you go, that one. Thanks.
Starting point is 03:21:47 I'll have a few. Hey, you know, we live in America where the ugly food gets discarded, but I'll eat it. Yeah, no. It's just as good. It's just as good. Another keto bread's great. Hey, Connie. Happy Thanksgiving, Connie.
Starting point is 03:21:59 Hostel is not better than slot. Well, maybe like, no. What are we on? We're on Seon. do you guys have any concerns for Superman legacy with the amount of characters that would be announced
Starting point is 03:22:13 this doesn't really feel like a Superman movie or more that's really what it's up love that sorry somehow my mouth got fuller as that went on do you guys have any concerns for Superman legacy with the amount of characters being announced
Starting point is 03:22:26 it doesn't really feel like a Superman movie anymore maybe it's too early to tell love y'all I think for the average audience it might feel that way but I mean you've read pound for pound more comics than I have having seen all these DC animated movies I don't know I just feel like it's normal in comics
Starting point is 03:22:44 to have a like broadly populated world where you have a lot of superheroes who already exist you have a lot of powered people who already exist new fetish unlocked I like it yeah I think it's a lot more commonplace in the actual medium that these are all coming out of to have like a whole bunch of people and other characters like that is my Rocky impersonation.
Starting point is 03:23:06 I can't do it without this specific snack. But I also understand your concern at the same time. Like it is a first in a rebooted franchise and all that stuff. But I think that'll partly serve as a primer for people to understand that this will be a much more broadly populated world and a lot less
Starting point is 03:23:24 of just like, oh, whoever's the name of the movies, like one of either the only powered or one of like a couple powered people in this movie. You know what I mean? let me uh we on it great in case to tell you something about James Gunn
Starting point is 03:23:38 this is a muck bang now not many people know how to deliver a debut ensemble the way James Gunn knows how to do here and we've seen him do it where it's like oh shit we got to make like 14 superheroes front and center in one movie
Starting point is 03:23:54 I don't know if it'll work oh shit he pulled it off yeah we're just talking about like fucking you know a villain a hair a Lois Like these aren't Most of them We know we just need one of them
Starting point is 03:24:10 To be front and center Which is Superman And the rest of the supporting characters It's not a big deal Yeah, yeah, yeah It's not I don't think it's a lot He's just building the world of it
Starting point is 03:24:20 Matt Colton's is mainly to introduce The Authority which I could see But yeah I mean a lot of the casting are characters too who are just like normal people character But you know Rando Mano, thank you Jack Quaid is an Hocker position, support his Israeli friend, Tomar Capone, Frenchi, or his co-star, Melissa
Starting point is 03:24:37 Brer. I mean, you could support your friends. I mean, I haven't, I'd be curious, I know Tomar Capone has been pretty vocal. I don't know, actually, what the tone is of what he's been saying. I do I think Jack Quaid should just be as compassionate as possible toward, I mean, like, that's a real thing. You're going to have two people with different ties, and I mean, especially Tomar Capone being from Israel, you know, you're going to.
Starting point is 03:25:02 have people with different ties, and I certainly hope that this doesn't mean the end of friendships. It may for some people, and that's part of the tricky part of all this, you know? I've seen it happen. Yeah. I mean, we know some Jewish people. I've seen it happen.
Starting point is 03:25:18 Yeah. So, I don't know, just do your best to listen. But if you were able to have a conversation and know what lines you can have about where you can disagree, and if it's okay that you disagree on this thing, about certain things, then you're fine. But some people are just like,
Starting point is 03:25:37 nope, all or nothing. Chiquita back in the chat. Gia. Three years she's been here. Three years of the chat. You think I forgot about that? It was like an hour and a half ago. I didn't forget about that.
Starting point is 03:25:50 It's okay. It's okay. This one's all about how great you are. My God, it's always sending Philadelphia of the old-fashioned way. I paid them money. I begged. and cried, and eventually they said,
Starting point is 03:26:04 if you've got the bill. Give you $2,000 to put me on. I'll give you more than I would have gotten paid. You think we Marvel fans have unrealistic expectations of them to continue to create lightning in a bottle like they did with Iron Man in phase one. How did they tell stories moving forward? I don't, I feel like the expectations are not as high
Starting point is 03:26:25 as they want to work. Yeah, that's weird. The comment that I don't like, a common comment that I really don't like, and maybe there are the people out there who do need to hear it is, not everything needs to be endgame. I don't ask for that ever. Like, I never ask for that. And I've had that dish my way many times.
Starting point is 03:26:53 I would love a standalone that doesn't need to be all of the stakes. poor favor please i mean i understand endgame is a culmination thing of like a billion movies and of course not everything needs to be endgame uh and nor does it need to be the quality or the hype level of endgame and in retrospect you know i i i don't know what my favorite mccu movie is anymore i really don't like i went back and i randomly rewatched infinity war in end game i can't remember if there was like a purpose to it or i just randomly put it on and and uh i think it was just like i was i randomly put on infinity war and then i was like i guess i'm here i was watching and i put on end game after and uh and and i think i
Starting point is 03:27:42 liked infinity war more um how i would summarize my experience of infinity war and end game is i think infinity war is possibly the best event comic book movie and I think Endgame is the best MCU movie or the best representation of MCU. It's the quintessence
Starting point is 03:28:07 of like what the MCU rewards, but I don't know if it's my favorite anymore as just a movie. There was a time where I said it. But then like now the after some distance and then watching it on Disney Plus
Starting point is 03:28:19 I'm like, there's things about the lighting that really, I feel the flat ways it's shot. Sure. And before I didn't quite feel that or see that. Well, and I think favorite also implies, like, a rewatchability and, like, an enthusiasm to put this on where, like, I don't, I'm not going to debate the status and the greatness of the things endgame achieves. But, like, rare is the occasion.
Starting point is 03:28:46 I'm like, I really want to just hang out and watch end game. Well, you see, Iron Man is still a great movie. and because it's not doing all the the only thing that people maybe have an issue with to this day in terms of a film is like you kind of get a villain at the end who just becomes you know a bigger iron man but i think everything leading up to that jeff bridges is a pretty impactful performer in that film yeah i like him you know as obadiah stane i think he's a pretty impactful villain yeah he's he showed up while predictable i think everything about it is still It's well-paced. It's well-ridden for a film that was surprisingly being ridden kind of on the fly. It's well-written. The acting is wonderful. It feels like composed and potentially shot.
Starting point is 03:29:35 Where now it just kind of feel like we're putting things in a factory in an algorithm. That common thing you hear people saying feel like an AI made. This is because things are starting to feel a little bit of like algorithmically made even if it's fun. Well, it feels too big now to take its time ever. It's like the thing is. is now it feels like fast food, whereas before it kind of felt like a restaurant where you paid for a good meal. And now it's like you can get a burger at like a fancy restaurant or you can go to McDonald's. And now it's not quite McDonald's, but it's. It's the rebranding when all the fast food
Starting point is 03:30:14 joins like McDonald's or Burger King or whoever else rebranded all their menus to be like, look at our artisanally sourced lettuce and tomatoes and shit. When you're like, this is I'm still at McDonald's. Yeah, yes, that's a great way for it. I don't think they're unrealistic expectations. I mean, for some people, yes, but I don't think they're unrealistic expectations. Like, yeah, it's hard to catch lightning in a bottle, but I don't think a lot of the problems are about that so much. I think you could still get very good material instead of mediocre material
Starting point is 03:30:45 without having to catch lightning in a bottle necessarily. I think it is, to me, the biggest culprit is the modularity, is just that they plan so far in advance now. and they make everything to be remade and retooled that you just cannot put a certain level of distinct personality into any of these scripts. Otherwise, it's going to become a problem. I was actually listening to,
Starting point is 03:31:06 I watched a film theory's latest video, which we had a little cameo in, apparently. I didn't know this. It was a fun moment. No one told me. The film theory. And I think their latest video really breaks down the problem best, better than we could say.
Starting point is 03:31:23 If you guys haven't seen it, even if you've really enjoyed the MCU, I think that one really breaks it down in a very efficient way while being incredibly informative. Jahasa Para, how does Superman, thank you so much, my friend, how does Superman avoid the too powerful argument? You give him a more powerful villain. Captain Marvel gets killed for having no real stakes leader to boredom when Superman is just as powerful, if not more. Is it just nostalgia?
Starting point is 03:31:53 No, I mean... It's the human life he's trying to balance against all this. Yeah, it's the... It's the power... No, please. I think you should go. It's the power. It's the illustration of choice that I think makes it challenging.
Starting point is 03:32:12 I mean, if you look at the first Superman with the whole fucking, you know, turning back the clock on Earth, it was like, where do I go save? Like, how do I? save Lois. There's that. There's also the, yeah, you can't give him a more powerful villain or an equally powerful one. You give him a Zod. You can give a radiac.
Starting point is 03:32:34 I think Lex is a compelling one because you are dealing with the most powerful being versing a very superiorly intelligent person. But you see, Captain Marvel doesn't have a kryptonite. That's like a saying, right?
Starting point is 03:32:51 what's the kryptonite? That's a saying. But for Superman, that's his actual physical enemy. That gave us the term. Yeah, that gave us a term. And I think that's the other thing is like,
Starting point is 03:33:02 well, that's also one of the balances. It's like, we know what it's weakness is. That motherfuckerfugers got kryptonite. Yeah. I mean, as I've learned from, you know,
Starting point is 03:33:12 various, you know, through the anime and stuff especially, and I think my adventures of Superman was a great illustration of this as well. And, you know, I think Coy, I've certainly heard Coy say this a billion times. The struggle of Superman is you can't save everybody, you can't be everywhere at once, no matter how powered you are.
Starting point is 03:33:32 And, yeah, I think those are enough stakes, you know, and larger than that, how do you remain the good-hearted person that Clark is in a world that is as harsh and brutal as this one is as well? And I think James Gunn is probably in a good position to give us that wholesomeness and then clash it with the rude awakening of actual, you know, malice and atrocity and blah, blah. True. Very true. So, yeah. It doesn't have to be all saving cats from trees, you know. Marvin Martin. Good name. Marvin Martin, the Martian.
Starting point is 03:34:10 Oh, literation. Do you think there's a house of cards thing behind the scenes to screw up Hollywood, Twitter, etc., for some hidden ulterior agenda? I hope so now I like this conspiracy I don't I don't think that Twitter and Hollywood are like somehow
Starting point is 03:34:29 Hollywood hates Twitter Twitter is its own you know cesspool septic tank now and you know it's it's clearly an autonomous entity that's imploding and exploding so I don't know
Starting point is 03:34:43 I mean Hollywood is a trickier house of cards It's a funny thing with social media and Hollywood because social media, YouTube, being part of that, has changed the game of marketing forever, you know, for Hollywood. And, like, where they use trailers, they use influencers, they're getting actors on fucking social media platforms to promote their shit, creating, I don't know, weird adventure games to fucking go along with people. Yep. You know, like, they do a bunch of crazy stuff. It forever changed marketing. And, yeah, those kinds of things used to be novel, and now they're, like, the norm.
Starting point is 03:35:23 Oh, yeah, man, remember there's a time where you'd be like, I go there early to catch this trailer. Yeah, I want to see the trailers. Oh, my God. Now I go to the theaters, and everyone's fucking showing up when the movies, like, already started. People can time it so, like, I want to arrive just when the AMC or whatever movie theater I'm in bumper ends, movies begin. Because everyone's already seen the trailers. Excluding if they got word that no one's debuting this trailer that hasn't been out yet, you know? And he's not going to put it online.
Starting point is 03:35:50 Yeah, yeah. So there was a time where even that was special. But now it's like, you get like 14 trailers and there are, you get like, look at the marvels. Look at any Marvel movie. You get like three main trailers. You get like a bunch of TV spots. And where do you watch them all? You watch them all on the internet.
Starting point is 03:36:06 Yeah. You know, you rarely see them in the theaters now. And if you do, it's because you got to the theater early. Yeah, totally. Because before you had to, like, reserve seating was in the thing. It was, that was, like, it became a rare thing for theaters. And now there's this, you know, like, they, yeah, they need, it is a weird thing. But at the same time, social media is every, it's the Hollywood's biggest threat.
Starting point is 03:36:31 It is. And, I mean, it really must hamper, like, all these movies and things take so long to make. And it must hamper a lot of that long-term planning because you have things. always being crunched and people are digging now more than ever to find what you're doing and have opinions about it. Yeah, and then you have actors who now can give their opinion, you know, like
Starting point is 03:36:52 before. I think there's less constraints in place to keep all these things from overflowing, whereas now everything's kind of been re-democratized. It is interesting looking at the Melissa Barrera. I do appreciate how she is the main theme of this. Because
Starting point is 03:37:08 my one of my dad's best friend a family friend of ours as a man you guys might not know his name anymore some of you guys might recognize his name Ed Asner Ed Asner you guys might best know him as either Santa from Elf
Starting point is 03:37:26 or Carl from up or you saw him recently on Cobra Kai or yeah he was Johnny Lawrence's dad in Cobre Cye prior to this he is one of the actors with one of some of the most he might be like he might be top actually most golden globes ever for male actor um so yeah he's he's prestige actor and a lot of his career was immensely damaged
Starting point is 03:37:55 severely damaged because and i've never i had never talked to ed azner directly about this but it's just a it's a known fact about what happened with his career he was an active And as much as he played like these cantankers people, he's like grumpy, crinky, tough as nails, mother effers. He's, he had a mass, even in person, like he's just like that blunt human being, you know? Like I get intimidated being around him, even though I was like around him so much. But he is an activist. For all the things, he's a liberal activist. And that was not fucking popular.
Starting point is 03:38:40 when he was famous. He really wasn't. And it completely damaged the man's career for such an extended period of time. It made it really difficult for him to get work, got fired, his Lou Grand Show, which he won Golden Gloves for, got canned.
Starting point is 03:38:58 It's the whole thing. And at the end of the day, when you look back and he'd be like, oh, he was on the right side of history. Yeah. You know? Yeah. But at the time,
Starting point is 03:39:06 wasn't exactly popular opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and those tides are always moving and shifting. Yeah. In terms of, yeah, what is acceptable dissent, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 03:39:18 Oh, I didn't know that about it, doesn't. It's inspiring. Yeah. I mean, really, it really, that's the reason why it, he didn't maintain the fame that he had, you know. But he was, he was like a superstar for a while. Oh, yeah. He's a, I mean, he's super prolific, even still.
Starting point is 03:39:38 I'm definitely not reading that. message in Viral Earth, too. Two things in the chat. One, yes. River Rock. It's not a continuity. AMC. Absolutely cowards for not letting the jigsaw, Billy puppet, Nicole Kidman thing play. Absolute. Two, Janine posited that MCU is actually Chipotle chat.
Starting point is 03:39:56 Do you agree? Jaisalpara. Blindwave collaboration anytime soon? We are blind. I'm the guy from Blindwave. And I am Eric. Yeah. Just look really different under these lights.
Starting point is 03:40:09 I am Eric from Blindwave, and he's that guy. Yeah, I'm that guy who people are you that guy from Blindwave? Yes. That's happened in person. That happened at, what was that, VidCon? Yeah, I think so. Someone came up to you and they're like, it was the funniest thing. Guy was full of shit.
Starting point is 03:40:29 I'm just got to call it out. The guy went out to me, he was like, real reject. Like, to me, he went, real rejects. I'm such a big fan. And then he turned to you. And he said, blind wave right you're not a you're not a real you must not be that big a man you can't know
Starting point is 03:40:46 you're not no john only watched straight to the point and made sure to be exposed to nothing else yeah that's why that's the joke with john of going hey the blind wave cut yep yep yep jerry Shane yeah dead shot will you guys do a separate reaction for saw then i mean john already joined terror and erin for it so yeah but I appreciate the inquiry though you can do your own solo reaction and we'll just stitch it into
Starting point is 03:41:16 we'll superimpose it over our reaction Omar Elcott Omar I wish my first super chat was about something else Oh no Amy Schumer posted a pitcher calling Gosen uh that's a kind of want to say that word on streams calling Gosson
Starting point is 03:41:33 our word while Melissa is the one that got fired without saying anything anti-Semitic big fan of you guys I mean yes that is that is um one of the unfair assessments and uh the culture of all this yeah yeah yeah that is i didn't really say that i actually didn't know that she must have because i've throughout this and i haven't dug really deep on it but i've heard amy schumer's name come up a lot and usually not yeah let me say let me see what she said
Starting point is 03:42:14 oh my oh my what are we got what are we got our Instagram posts received more than 87,000 likes since deleted comic on Instagram attended to satirized comments made by America Oh damn that is some horrible
Starting point is 03:42:29 shit to say Wowie Oh man Oh, and she wasn't like, like being ironic or some ill-attempted humor. I mean, she wasn't canned for that shit? I mean, I guess what does she have to be canned from at the moment? Oh, she actually did. That is worse than what you put in the super chat.
Starting point is 03:42:54 Yeah. That's not, that's not good. Everyone's bringing up Noah Schnapp this whole time. Yeah, which Noah Schnapp, part of me is like, I don't know, you're a young kid. You're still kind of a kid, so, like, not good, but also, like, I imagine you may have some learning coming your way, where it's like, Amy Schumer's in a very different position and at least doesn't have as good of an excuse to be ill-informed. Jesus Christ. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:43:24 Oh, boy. Well, I won't be watching that Judapito movie she did now. Michelle, of course, this is still going. We haven't finished the super shit No, at least we got to get to the end. Enviro, put down your, what did you, what do we miss from Enviro? I don't know what we missed. We're probably
Starting point is 03:43:43 on a tangent about something. We're probably just got to get there. We're probably just got to get there soon. But I appreciate your first super chap being that. Yeah. Olivia, I love your thumbnail. John. John, fuck's sake, John.
Starting point is 03:43:59 Fiff Fis. Mal Gibson's still working. Oh, did you see you at the Continental? He's great. I haven't seen the content. When I went to see the creator, all that I heard from the other critics was them talking about how bad the Continental was.
Starting point is 03:44:13 Before and after the creator, they just got back together to keep talking about how bad the Continental was. So I, yeah. But you know, Mel Gibson also. I mean, people really came out. I mean, Mel Gibson, I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 03:44:31 Mel Gibson. What are his thoughts on the continent? Didn't have, um, he wasn't, uh, did he have like something in the works and then it got canned? Maybe. He's been at the hardest time. He'll leave the weapon five off the ground. I mean, let's face. I wonder why.
Starting point is 03:44:47 I mean, look, we all know his career was damaged and he had to have, and he did have had a comeback directing wise with Hacksaw Ridge. You were still able to work because people still backed him as like, hey, man, you know, he was just drunk. Sets of shit. Fucking A. Mm. Oh, Gal Godot's situation. But there's too many people here to come on the channel. Don't let me watch Mel Gibson movies now.
Starting point is 03:45:11 Yeah, ruining my fun. I'll never see the lethal weapon franchise now. I wanted to react to Continental. But there's people. I'm just sure. I actually did you want to react to it? I heard all that chat. I was like, this doesn't sound that interesting to me.
Starting point is 03:45:29 I did hear of lethal weapon five still in the works. I like the lethal weapon. the webbing movies. I think they are really missing the point of John Wick by trying these random spin-offs. I really don't think it's a good idea. It wasn't really the world. I don't think people.
Starting point is 03:45:40 Nobody cares that much about the Continental without a couple key actors. Corey Handler, hi, guys. Greenwich from New Orleans. Just want to thank you for all the great content. Love the channel. Say hi to Coy. You could say how to Coy yourself.
Starting point is 03:45:53 Coy is always on social media and he would love to reply to you. Just say something really offensive and he will undoubtedly. You'll doubt about it. Favorite Scareer movie is actually the first screen movie. That's why this one really hits hard for me. PLD! It's PLD!
Starting point is 03:46:08 PLD! Big help on her. Big help, PLD. Is this the same PLD? Yeah, I think so. Unless, you know, I mean... Good to see you, boys. That's not what your face looks like in your avatar, but, you know.
Starting point is 03:46:22 Sykes for Doctor Who. Rank the new Doctor Who Doctors. My favorite is Capaldi. All right, easily. Matt Smith, Tennant. I got to say Eccleson is like at the bottom for me. I'd actually put Whitaker above Eccleson. This is so hard.
Starting point is 03:46:37 I don't want to write them. Really? Oh my God. It's so easy for me. It's Matt Smith, Tenet, Capaldi, Whitaker, and then Tenet. Tenet's at the bottom for me. Really? He might be in the middle for me.
Starting point is 03:46:55 I know he's the quintessential for so many people. Part of me feels... I thought he was creepy unintentionally. Okay. I mean, sure. I did not. I mean, I, like, I got invested in Dr. Ruby because of him. I grew to really like him, but there was something that felt off-putting about him at first that I did not find particularly charming.
Starting point is 03:47:14 Yeah. I can, I can see why. I thought it was creepy. Sure. I don't necessarily share that, but I understand where you would, yeah, why. I get it, yeah. I had such a hard time moving past Eccleston because I really like Eccleston. It's hard.
Starting point is 03:47:32 I think for me, Capaldi and Matt Smith would grapple at the top because I really like those two portrayals. Yeah. Tenant, I guess I would put in the middle and then Whitaker and Krasheklesden can kind of battle at the bottom.
Starting point is 03:47:49 I don't know. I mean, I like them all so much for different reasons and it's hard to rank them because they all are their own take, but they're all also kind of familial to each other. So that's my tenet of. vague half-ranking, I guess. Like, there's, it's
Starting point is 03:48:04 been hard to be like, oh, this one's night and day like my favorite. But yeah, I mean, Matt Smith just had such a gripping, he felt the most sort of like a man out of time and had this sort of bubbly, like youthful, but also old soul energy. And then Capaldi, I just thought complimented that so well in tandem
Starting point is 03:48:22 as the sort of yeah, like older, more, you know, haggard version, but who's trying to stay connected to that, you know, humanity. I don't know. Yeah, it's real hard. You see, okay, you know what it was about Eccleston? When he was being, like, fun and charming,
Starting point is 03:48:40 he just creep me out. When he was being, like, dramatic and serious, I really, I really, wait, wait, are you talking about Echolk, you mean Echleston? What do you mean? Not Tenet. We're not talking about Tenon. Oh, God, no, yeah. Okay, I thought Eccleston. I really like. No, Ten is usually my second favorite. Wait a minute. You said he was creepy, And you put it at the bottom.
Starting point is 03:49:01 No, I said Eccleston. Okay, I think I got confused. I thought you meant Tenet is your favorite. No, no, no. No, I go Smith, Tenet. Okay. Capaldi, Whitaker, Eccleston. That's a pretty solid ranking.
Starting point is 03:49:16 Yeah, no. Tenant's my second favorite. Okay. I'm going to be fucking excited about this. If he was my least favorite. Okay. I was real confused. I was like, interesting.
Starting point is 03:49:26 You think this guy's creepy. I mean, I guess I could see. I mean, yeah. Like Christopher Eccleston is the most, I don't know. Like there's, yeah, he has, he kind of falls into a center point for me between like a Capaldi and a tenant or Smith in the sense of, I thought Christopher Eccleson's light side was a nice compliment to the dark. Did I say tenant? I must have fucked up saying, my bad. Yeah, it's all right.
Starting point is 03:49:50 I thought, I really like the joyous side of Eccleston. But as much as I do love his portrayal, I guess I kind of have to put it. lower. Okay, dude, my bad. Yeah, I was like, damn, the, I can understand not putting him at number one, but, like, least tenant, like, shit. Oh, no, no, no, no, my bad, so I
Starting point is 03:50:09 botched that. I really thought I said it right. Whereas Eccleston lands. My memory, I'm like, did I really say that? It's like, I think we would rank him for different reasons. It's like, I think Eccleston will ultimately, as much as I do have an attachment to that performance, he would rank lower just because everything else that comes after is very much more fully formed.
Starting point is 03:50:29 I don't think Olivia likes Matt Smith. I know. She thinks he looks like a big toe. I remember her repeating that. He does. He kind of looks a little bit like those Mario blockheads. He's got a strange. He's got a weird looking at me.
Starting point is 03:50:46 I love him. Yeah. Tenant and Eccleston can battle at the top. I mean, blah. Smith and Capaldi and then Tenant and Capaldi can grapple for two or three. Whittaker and whoever can grapple for... They're all grappling. I forgot my thing.
Starting point is 03:51:08 There's a thing thing. Was it Dr. Rieckh? Yeah. Matt Smith, we were talking about his toe face. Hey, that looks like a toe right there. Thumb. Thumb. Okay.
Starting point is 03:51:24 Yeah, because, I mean, no one said it. like oh you think eglson's creepy what about kapalde i'm like well kapaldi's supposed to be creepy yeah like capaldi's supposed to be like off-putting like old stressed out i just don't want to say cantanker's again but oh but he's supposed to be like a little creepy that's kind of the intention he's supposed to be a little intense and a little almost scary yeah yeah that's the purpose of him yeah um he's not my favorite but i thought he was very effective and really endeared to him yeah yeah uh yeah heckleston just didn't and i think olivia's favorite is actually heckleston i like him a lot yeah i do honestly i'm just i mean john
Starting point is 03:52:11 hurt i don't know he's barely in it man i don't really ever count know who the i asterisk that i'm not like oh that that special is i love him this this would be the first time we're going to talk about doctor who on youtube on actual youtube and it's kind of weird to be like oh shit we're going to really, like, actually talk about it. Yeah. I'm sorry, I didn't mean that. No one's going to let you lift this down. I really thought I really thought I said Eccles.
Starting point is 03:52:34 I would never put Tenet at the, I just wouldn't. I was surprised. Yeah. I was surprised. Did you see my reaction when I was talking about, I was like, what do you mean? Like, no, why would I say? And in that moment, I was like, okay, so there must have been a disconnector. Yeah, I think I just said that, yeah, but in my head, I was for sure.
Starting point is 03:52:51 Because I can very much see how Eccleston would come across a bit creepy. Yeah. In the way that maybe is not. not on putting the opposite of off-putting. I mean, Ted, it's a little creepy. Well, and in that sense, I don't disagree that, like, if you thought that, I could kind of see it, but it makes more sense
Starting point is 03:53:09 and he's more fully fleshed into the role as... I think I saw Kilgrave before I ever saw him as Doctor Who. And I had a little bit of... I have to get past that a little bit. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. You know, so I sort of just associated him as a bad guy. And then Harry Potter, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, barely remember Harry Potter.
Starting point is 03:53:29 Oh, okay. Anyway, yeah. He does the tongue thing alone. No, I got, sorry, I did not mean I could, I could go into more depth for you if you want me to prove this. But no, I'm not, I'm not, I think I even said a sentence to support. I think I even said like, I was the one to introduce, I think I even said something like that, he was the one to introduce me. Yeah. Borer Gover, oh, fuck, I do not like, like, okay, I do not like that.
Starting point is 03:53:54 I hope, God, this. I think the Cybermen are the worst You love Cybermen I cannot They're in like The Daleks you hate It's shut No the Daleks
Starting point is 03:54:04 Oh man I'm ready to I fly to the moon Every time The Dalek show up on screen Fuck I love the Daleks I even like the Dalek episodes That people don't generally like
Starting point is 03:54:14 About the Daleks You know like when they do like Every gonna do the Like I'm the on the freaking Whitaker one When they had like that one Dalek Oh great I love I love the Daleks But the Cybermen
Starting point is 03:54:24 more often than not are super fucking boring. I'm just saying they are super boring. You kind of know what to expect a lot of the time. I liked the one guy in the Jody Whitaker ones. I think they could have done more with that, but the one who's like half his humanity is like coming back and he's got the warped, broken helmet.
Starting point is 03:54:46 That was pretty cool. Oh, the one that had like the riff on Frangestine, the Mary Shelley Frankenstein. Yeah, that one was pretty cool. That guy was pretty cool. But yeah. Yeah, like Cybermen, as cool as they look, kind of feel like, you know, like a discount version of Daleks. It's so boring.
Starting point is 03:55:03 Delete. Fight the doctor who. I'll fight the Hoovian's tooth and nail on that. I'm like, you tell me why they're interesting. Yeah, let's go. I got your emails, baby. They're not even like, they're not even like fun bad. At least Daleks are like, you can like kind of laugh at them.
Starting point is 03:55:21 Well, they're a person now, the troubling, the difficulty with Cybermen is that the whole point is that they don't have emotions. So, like, that's, you have to rely on numbers and conniving and blah, blah. Whereas, like, the Daleks are just, like, fun to be around even though they're evil. Oh, weeping angels, yes. Definitely creepy. They know how to keep them. They, they, I don't think they've ever botched the weeping angels. Delete, delete, delete.
Starting point is 03:55:48 Yeah, they haven't really. I mean, they've done, and they found some pretty interesting. ways of and those are I mean in the chat conferred those are like creative for the new series right like I feel like those are a pretty iconic you know because Daleks and Cybermen they all come from before and I think they really handled nicely all their weeping angel yeah yeah for sure corporations I do I would like to buy Loki on Blu-Rid would sound fun um you know I won't watch the whole thing back to back um yeah yeah uh you can like we just started from Eccleston they pretty much you a decent re because the whole point is the whole point is to be like who are you I'm the doctor yeah I think I think common consensus is hey if you're first time or jump in with the new series started Eccleston and then yeah progress because too he's short lived so that gives you a good primer for what the show is you need to know who Rose is and then it gives you a pretty quick regeneration so actually funny enough in the grand scheme it's kind of fortunate that his tenure was short because it gives people an easy entry point I don't think I could ever go watch those. I mean, I've seen, like, clips of the old ones, and I'm like, maybe when I'm retired. And I just have so much time on my hand.
Starting point is 03:57:07 I got real time for this, yeah. Damn, what is the Super Chat? Yeah, the gender of MC, no light. Let's do this. Yeah, the gender of Silver Surfer isn't important to say Miles Morales being half black and Latino. I just think it's risky for Marble to go with a female version of the silver server because we know how sexy. I mean, we cannot have nice things and like a female silver surfer will surely melt the brains of many.
Starting point is 03:57:34 You said one out of two and two. Even if the writing is good, you have some that will hate that silver server, that silver server is female. For me personally, it's not a deal breaker, but do you think it's a good idea? I mean, I think you're absolutely right here. I mean, I can't disagree with you on that in terms of is there going to be a side of the audience that's going to act like they've been the most knowledgeable, biggest silver surfer fans of all time, and that the MCHU is rooting everything. Of course there's going to be that side, or half of them, they won't even be able to tell you one comic they're from, you know. It's only going to emboldened in the people who watch the Panderverse special and think that Cartman's point of view is the point of view of the episode.
Starting point is 03:58:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The people who were like, oh, no, get a diverse female in there quick. Like, you know, I'm sure it's not going to help if they do it. I guess the question is, is like, what is the purpose of the choice to do it? Because that is true. I think there's something to reconsider there is, like, like if we watch it and then let's say they get like a great actress in it will it feel like oh yeah like honestly when I think ancient one I think Tilda Swinton
Starting point is 03:58:54 you know that's what I think of and I think she did such a memorable job in that role yeah that she makes an impression and I'm like would changing it to because some surfers for most part like you know I wouldn't say he's monotone, but he's a little bit stoic, you know, so I don't really feel like we need. That's what I'm saying. Get Rosario-Daston to be the story. That's what I'm saying doesn't really matter to me, but at the same time, does making it a woman really bring anything different to it or change it or elevate it or will it feel like there's a purpose to making Silver Surfer a woman? And at the same time, even if there's not a purpose, is it really offending anyone?
Starting point is 03:59:39 Does it matter? It's weird. It's like, does there need to be a purpose? But I guess for the people who get up in arms, that reads as disregard. If they want to just avoid that, then yeah, that's the safe thing. But is there a reason to do it? Not really. My true question.
Starting point is 03:59:53 Is there a reason not to do it? Yeah, to avoid getting people upset. But that's the only thing I can think of. I mean, and gender swapping has become this weird thing now, too, where I think it's a fun and interesting thing to do. But it does feel like the broader application. of that choice by Hollywood has been to
Starting point is 04:00:14 you know just kind of I don't know the rhyme and reason to doing it where and when hasn't been as solid as one would hope and I do wonder if Ragged Rec is correct if Galactus does have a female herald anyway I think that's kind of the key to this because
Starting point is 04:00:29 then you I think then the argument goes just do that character but obviously Silver Surfer is the icon my feeling remains the same like I don't really care, but also I don't think it's a strong enough argument that like if it doesn't really matter, then who cares
Starting point is 04:00:45 because that's not going to help you fight the people who are going to be the most annoying about this. What was the second topic you think we talked about most? It definitely wasn't a superman. I need to change the thumbnail. Put all server servers in there. I need to update it.
Starting point is 04:01:04 Omar Elcott. I think the director of God of thank you for the super chat. Should Formed right and I should direct Thor 5? What do you guys think? Oh, the game, the director got a war era. That would bring a very different flavor. One that could bring it back to.
Starting point is 04:01:21 Yeah, you know, we haven't quite had an epic Thor movie that really does feel like the fantastical epic. Norse mythology. That weirdly feels like the thing that's missing from the Thor franchise is, is that epic Thor movie because they don't do. that in the first Thor movie. They were aiming more for that in a dark world that they definitely didn't succeed. And then instead of trying to nail it down, they just
Starting point is 04:01:48 went the opposite direction. Yeah. You know, which I think is, that would be a cool thing if Thor 5 could nail the Shakespearean and obviously Norse it would need the story and stakes to provide to warrant it though. Yeah, exactly. Like it has to be a bit of a Lord of the Rings or a bit of a Northman
Starting point is 04:02:04 or something like that, something like really steeped in this. Yeah. And that would be really cool, but it would also need to be very much dedicated to being that and probably not too interconnected with other stuff. A thousand percent. That's what it's really all about, yeah, for sure, man, for sure.
Starting point is 04:02:21 I agree, John. But let's get some nasty Viking Thor movies out here. All right, guys, we're going to end soon. I got a... We've each aged so much since this dream again. No, I've had a great time, man. Honestly, I haven't wanted this end. I've had a great time.
Starting point is 04:02:36 Yes. Even when it got like serious and stuff, I've had a great time. Gerardo Tutoro, go back to the beginning of the chat of the stream and you'll find the answer. Gang is Connie, Connie, Kanye, saying, my dear. We got to do something soon, all of us. I know, I need to put together a hangout. Yeah, just for you and me and Connie.
Starting point is 04:02:54 I barely ask anyone in my life if they see me. It's on a random night at like 11 p.m. where I'm like, hey, I got some time. Yeah. You want to go down the street? Hey, are you free because I just got free? Yeah, that is my life. You got 10 minutes? Yeah.
Starting point is 04:03:10 Let's cram it in. Because there's other things I've been working on, too, outside of here. How do you present a nude woman on a surpl or not a sexualizer? Well, I think you go double down. I think. Honestly, I don't know. Big ass, big, big who I'm going to bring them back over to you guys. I mean, I am certainly here for a voluptuous silver observer,
Starting point is 04:03:31 but I think all they do is they just go with a Barbie physique. Don't you apologize, Gerardo. Don't you apologize? And doesn't have. too curvy of a hip I don't know I think it'll ride on androgyny really
Starting point is 04:03:44 like the Silver Surfer has a very masculine physique but like does Kevin Sorbo's sci-fi shop anything to do it? Yes of course my bad I didn't mean it Gabby P that's Olivia's saying you gotta end this that's yeah
Starting point is 04:03:56 that's a thousand percent hello what? what what she's say Should we react to it Or should we prepare ourselves mentally Melissa Barrera apparently posted something
Starting point is 04:04:20 on her Instagram This is why we This is why we stayed live Uh-oh Uh-oh, what do we got? What do we got? Okay, we can view it here, hold on a second Why don't we have to log in Log in
Starting point is 04:04:33 Just go to mine All right Johnny went to the wrong one I went to the Greg Alva. Just go. See if that works. All right. Perfect.
Starting point is 04:04:43 Now we go. Now we go back. We're like paparazzi. Fucking A. John, you don't know to do anything around here. I do. You're already logged in. Melissa Barrera posts something. This is better.
Starting point is 04:04:56 This is going to be the most exciting thing. All right. We got it. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. All right. Oh, my God, Instagram.
Starting point is 04:05:02 You are so aggravating sometimes. Not now. We're good. I'm going to look at it. right now. Okay. View is real. Yes. All right. Here's what she said. All right. John's got it, babe. All right. Pause this. First and foremost. Whoa, I'll put it up here.
Starting point is 04:05:16 Yes. My bee, my bee, my bee. All right. First and foremost, I condemn anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. I condemn hate and prejudice of any kind against any group of people as a Latina, a proud Mexican. Let's just pause. I think that is exceptionally obvious. Yes. I think that's exceptionally. I think you've bent over backwards to a community. I feel like we don't need to have
Starting point is 04:05:40 it's sad that she has to fucking have that be her first and foremost. I think it's very, very, very obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the odds is fap and over. Still live, thank God. I think it's very obvious. Anyway, please continue.
Starting point is 04:05:55 I ever read the rest of this? Let's see what she says. As a Latina and a proud Mexicana, I feel the responsibility of having a platform that allows me the privilege of being heard and therefore I have tried to use it to raise awareness about issues I care about and lend my voice to those in need. Okay.
Starting point is 04:06:10 See, this is where some people get. This is where some people get, she's Mexican, I thought she was from Palestine. No, she's said that before. She's Mexican. She talked about her people are also colonized. She was referring to that. Okay, let's read this again.
Starting point is 04:06:26 As a Latino is a proud of Mexican, I feel the responsibility to have a platform and allows her privilege of being hurt. See, some people get upset that celebrities or certain actors will take this opportunity to have a voice. to say something about a lot of times what a lot of times when people become actors is because they're incredibly it's not all of them but some of them become very empathetic human beings
Starting point is 04:06:47 you know there are people who love to feel so if they feel something for this feel strongly and they have a platform they're going to want to use it it's within their right to use it yeah well there's a huge push pull from society about platforms and they use they're in so you know yeah all right every person on this earth regardless of religion race ethnicity gender sexual orientation or socioeconomic status deserves equal human rights, dignity, and, of course, freedom. Safe place to live.
Starting point is 04:07:14 Yes, that is pretty much what we have been saying. I believe a group of people are not their leadership and that no governing body should be above criticism. True that. We've been saying the whole stream. True that. This whole stream is that, is that, we've been saying that's what she's been saying.
Starting point is 04:07:29 Except for the American government, which is beyond all reproach. But anyway. But no, the entire time is like, it's pretty obvious everything she's been saying. or not their government. Like, it's crazy to even that she's making this statement when it's like, guys, it's crazy. She has to make this statement because of the shit that Spike Glass said about her.
Starting point is 04:07:49 When that's not, when it was so obvious, like, she did not need to say this. You know, it was like, no, it's pretty obvious that this is what she's been saying. And now she's just making it exceptionally clear. Anyway. Misha Collins was getting death threats for speaking of about it? I pray day and night,
Starting point is 04:08:07 for no more deaths, for no more violence, for peaceful coexistence, I will continue to speak up for those that need it most and continue to advocate for peace and safety for human rights and freedom, silence and an option for me. Look, yeah, stay by what you believe in. Absolutely. And I think she's got way more people in her support
Starting point is 04:08:23 more now than ever. Because a lot of people probably just knew her as like, who's that girl from screen? Yeah. Now people really know her name. And I think she can, you know, use this. And the part of me that feels a concern for her is will she be able to properly work
Starting point is 04:08:37 again, who will be the studio that is willing to take her back on? And if Spyglass does want her back for Scream, will she be willing to do it? You know? I don't think the Spyglass CEO, you know, or say any of this snapper? No, man. Don't think it all.
Starting point is 04:08:53 No, and I think the fact that some people associate, like I know it's easy to, if you're not in that country, a lot of people will often hear about what the government is doing and assume that is what all people are like, but that's never, it's never the case. social media has truly given us. That's what some people say about Americans. Of course.
Starting point is 04:09:13 We are the poster child for that. Yeah, totally. So, no, I think this is, I think this was a smart, just a super clear statement for her to have made. This is like, it's weird because this started off, this stream
Starting point is 04:09:31 was us saying, Spike Glass said some shit, it didn't line up and we were asking people, What did they, like, where exactly is the anti-Semitism? You see people trying to hunt down the anti-Semitism. They can't find it. And then you conclude everything that you just said here. And now she just puts it here to be like, I'm just going to make it really clear.
Starting point is 04:09:50 I'm like, yeah, this is exactly what it was. You know? So, yeah, good statement. Yeah. She's going to become super famous, even more famous than for it. For all the reasons she was hoping. I mean, hey, maybe she can use it to do something she's even more passionate about than acting. Then go for it.
Starting point is 04:10:07 Anyway, so Lex Luthor. Lex Luthor, the white guy playing Lex Luthor. Thank you, Gabby P, for being our last super chat, but we should go back to the stream labs, and thank you to Olivia for calling me with Breaking News. Yes, from the news desk. That's why we stayed live. We were going to stay live until Marissa Fresh.
Starting point is 04:10:28 Yes. This was a stream of the century for us. That's right, man. We do what we can. We said we go till 2. That was only like 430. Yeah, whatever, whatever. We've been in Worse.
Starting point is 04:10:39 We've been in Worse. You'll see your family tomorrow at some point. Oh, no, where the stream labs go. Here they are. Yay, we're dear. All right, a couple here. A couple. The last of our questions.
Starting point is 04:10:51 Okay, so we did this one last. So we're moving on to question 29. Let's do this. Let's do this. Who would you cast for the rest of the Justice League? And what do you think of mine? Martian Manhunter, Mahershala. Ali originally had Lance Reddick.
Starting point is 04:11:07 but rest in peace, absolutely. Deepak. Yup, get it going. Let's see, Wonder Woman. Not sure for this one. Flash, Dylan O'Brien, Hal Jordan, Glenn Powell, and then we move on to the second half of this.
Starting point is 04:11:23 Screen Labs. That's clever. Oh, Judah Miller's sending a weightlifting one. We're acknowledging right now. Thank you. Hey, Judah Miller. We'll get you on screen there. There you go. John Stewart would be Trevante Rhodes. I know that name. Batman, Jensen Ackles, bit of a weird one,
Starting point is 04:11:39 Baron Taylor Johnson as well. So we'll have two Batman. Why not? Aquaman Alexander Ludwig. Don't know that guy. Constantine. Matt Ryan, not in Justice League, but Ryan Gosling in question as well. By the way, big fan of both you guys, so we should be cast in the movie.
Starting point is 04:11:57 My, let's see, there's some pretty good picks here. Some pretty good picks. So he does have Superman in here? Nope. Well, there you go. I want... I want Superman and Martian Manhunter.
Starting point is 04:12:12 I want to make it impossible to defeat them. Yes. Maybe this... What fucking enemy you throw it? Maybe this... It is impossible. Oh, my. I mean, if you just make Martian Manhunter a Superman,
Starting point is 04:12:26 then you can put all those gripes to rest about them being almost the same character. Hey, I like... Let's see. Let's just do a quick recap for funzies. Martian Man Hunter. I'm thinking that's all-state stand. Dennis Hayesbury. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 04:12:42 I'm going to go. Oh, what's his name? Kiefer Sutherland. Kiefer. Sure. Yeah. Wonder Woman, actually, somebody in the chat said Melissa Barrera. I could see it.
Starting point is 04:12:52 But my pick has been Adria Arjona for a minute now. I'm going to Arre Plaza. Sure. I would be there. I would love to see that. Flash. Glenn Powell. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 04:13:05 Good call on that. Yeah, a thousand percent going with a key. I'm actually going DJ Qualls for Clash. Hal Jordan. Oh, nice, good one. Just keep throwing Nathan Fillion in there. Harrison Ford. I want one uninspired choice.
Starting point is 04:13:23 A thousand percent Harrison Ford. Sure. John Stewart, I'll cast Trevor Noah. Oh, very good call. There we go, sure. Batman. Oh, I didn't get a chance to go. What do you want? Oh, for John Stewart.
Starting point is 04:13:34 John Stewart. Who you want? Oh, easily. Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle? Yeah, this is a good choice. Jensen Ackles. Who you cast is Jensen Ackles?
Starting point is 04:13:42 Jerry Padillik. He's going to be Batman. Aquaman. Aquaman. What are we thinking? What are we thinking? Who will be a good Aquaman? Yeah.
Starting point is 04:13:52 Oh, that's easy. Brie Larson's Aquaman. Why not? Constantine, I'm going to cast that comedian from TikTok who just got canceled because of his insensitive stand-up routine. That guy. doing chapters on this video is that right there you go matt rife instead of matt rife instead of matt ryan will be uh constant yeah yeah that's a good question thank you mac thank you question 29 yeah well audrey plaza would be the whatever woman uh i like it i like i like all
Starting point is 04:14:22 these the gamer mj we still have inside out too for movies next year inside out to ghostbusters bad boys for if and quiet place day one to name a few uh yeah quite i'm like reasonably excited for all them. Quiet place they want I'm excited for. Because John Krasinski's not making it and I'm trying to see what direction it will take it in. I love that show. I love that show.
Starting point is 04:14:47 What's your favorite? Who's your favorite doctor? Oh, I've said it. It's Eccleston. And reaction to the crisis had to be it a trailer. Nah, no, no, no. Oh, damn. I mean, I would love to cover the new crisis.
Starting point is 04:15:03 Give it good work. On Infinite Earth. Thank you, Gamer, MJ. And then here it is. Oh, my God. Chris Whamoff. Much love and nobody to shout it to showing solidarity
Starting point is 04:15:13 for those around the strike. Chris Wammoth. Chris. Chris Wammoff. I do want to shout something out. We were talking, my friend. And Mr. Chris Wammoth, who just gave us some fucking
Starting point is 04:15:23 like three times in a row, fucking 500 bucks. Because we've been making sure to a whole history there with the people who have been part of the strike, who have been part of the channel. so thank you very much he just got engaged
Starting point is 04:15:41 not long ago he's got a beautiful fiancé Chris wedding is a lucky lucky woman and I hope that you run out of money for your wedding by just giving it all to our live streams have your honeymoon
Starting point is 04:15:57 on the live stream so dude Chris thank you so much for being like the amazing gentleman that you are for helping out the channel the way you are doing and for just being an overall gentleman congratulations on being engaged for always helping people out
Starting point is 04:16:14 you're the fucking man and thank you so much for being you dude thank you so so much and happy Thanksgiving to you and your family and your fiancee your beautiful human being thank you Chris I appreciate you very much very very fucking generous my man my man dude your biceps are getting called out in the chat right now Really?
Starting point is 04:16:34 Good today. Look at that. That's for clempt right there. The end of the stream is what we do. All right, John, what do you think about Dave Filoni? I mean, this is probably what so many people have been waiting for. Dude, yeah, I mean, it's the movie the Century right here. It seems like a foregone conclusion.
Starting point is 04:16:50 Get ready for everyone to get lost on Star Wars. I haven't seen all these fucking animated things he's putting in my live action movies. I'm excited for this not to fix everything. And I'm excited to get like, maybe. I don't know what's going on. Maybe slightly more unified material, but that doesn't fix everything. Basically, I'm excited for what seems like a solid choice that will not make everyone happy. I don't know.
Starting point is 04:17:13 I feel like Dave Filoni, out of anyone who's been involved in Star Wars lately. Easily the best chance. Easily the best chance. Easily the greatest fit for it. And he seems to be the one who's, right now it's about winning back here. They're in a weird spot right now because they need to gain new fans. They need to heal the brand. But they also have to win back their old fans.
Starting point is 04:17:33 and they got to do both because you can't just win back your old fans you've got to grow your fan base like it's just part of the game and but when you when you're been losing your old fans that's a real problem I get that people outgrow
Starting point is 04:17:49 people grow apart in relationships it's part of what happens in life but with Star Wars no you got to maintain that shit you know and and I think Faloni is the solution to that your arms
Starting point is 04:18:03 are getting a lot, a lot of attention. It's all that G-fuel. And also, I'm going to tell you guys about the craziest deal Greg just made. Oh. I'm getting less money for G-fuel. Again? Dude, it's the third time.
Starting point is 04:18:17 It's the third time they're doing this. I'm getting less money for G-fuel. And because they already don't, they barely pay anything. Yes. You know? Yes. And I'm always, and I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 04:18:29 I'm fine with that because I'm always like, I'm always telling them this. I don't really care about the money. I just want the G-fuel. I'm always telling it. You save enough just with the complimentary. Everyone who comes here would know this behind the scenes. Greg loves.
Starting point is 04:18:46 People ask me for G-fuel a lot of times before they film. I'm always going to do it. I love G-fuel. And they offered less money. And I was like, okay. Can you send me more cans, though? I'll take no money for unlimited cans. That's why they don't realize.
Starting point is 04:19:05 Do you guys realize that that's the path we're headed down is you will not compensate. It's anything financially. You will just be setting me. I just want to get to a year supply of cans. Yeah. Yeah. A lifetime supply. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:19:19 That's all I'm trying to get to you right now. It's like we're getting to a point where you're so close. There's going to be no compensation. Just give me all the cans. My exact message. Oh, I was like, let me see if I could just have John read this for the first. I am, I love that. I am, I am going to start lifting
Starting point is 04:19:36 in 2024 and Gigachad John is coming. Don't worry. I'm the last guy now who has to catch up to you guys. Gigachad John 2024. Don't read the, out of respect just because of contracture. Don't read that number here.
Starting point is 04:19:53 Okay. But read, read the chat that I said. Read what I said. It's the first time John's reading this. This is how much I love GField. So I'm just reading you? Or am I reading the above as well? No, just me. Yeah, man, let's chat about it.
Starting point is 04:20:06 What are the requirements? And as long as I can get a shit ton of G-fuel cans, hell. You know what? Can I drop the rate and get double the amount of cans? I'm that guy and get me a couple G-fuel shirts. But hey, I mean, that's got to be the kind of person you want on your influencer roster. Like somebody who just cares about the prime. Don't get around the money. I just want the G fuel.
Starting point is 04:20:35 And it benefits me and Coy at the very least. And anybody who gets a straight can on the way in, they were kind enough to send me some G fuel. They send Coy some G fuel. I'm still working through the supply of G fuel. They sent me the first time. That's what I mean, man. Like, it helps.
Starting point is 04:20:48 It really does. And it does. And I be coming in with this shaker. It keeps me sprawled. A lot of work goes on around here. You know, we like doing five-hour-old live streams. This is, you know, as you guys see, we always do five hours.
Starting point is 04:21:03 This is the same energy expenditure is spending all day at a theme park. So my point is that yeah, you know, I wrote like a couple of screenplays this year too on top of that and sometimes I'm writing at like five in the morning because I get done editing at one in the morning.
Starting point is 04:21:19 And GFill really helps out. It's not even sponsored. I just fucking love them. Anyway, guys, yeah, we got to bounce because there are still things to wrap up. We've been on for four hours and 20. Four and a half hours. 20, baby, where it's the perfect time to stop. Guys, I don't know who's been here since the beginning, but thanks to you for, if you've been here for any, if you've been here for longer than 20 minutes, thank you so much.
Starting point is 04:21:41 You are just tuning in. Thank you so much. Thank you for being here. I feel like we, we love Blind Wave 2. I feel like we really needed this stream today. It was a really, like, cathartic stream, I would say. Janine, I'm pretty sure you've been here since the fucking beginning. Thank you.
Starting point is 04:21:58 Let's tell you some bye to some people. Everyone who contributed to our stream labs. Thank you, Judah Miller for one last sticker right there. Thank you. Thank you. Shouts out to the fucking people who gave like massive, massive, like some couple people who got, someone gave $100, someone gave $50, fucking Chris Brown for the $500. That's fucking enormous.
Starting point is 04:22:16 Thank you. Killing it, guys. If you just contribute like a dollar, I appreciate it. If you didn't contribute, you were just in the chat, appreciate you guys being here. Really love today. Great way to lead into Thanksgiving. And thank you to everyone for being here. So Matt, Israel, Wanam, Darkar, just saying random names that are popping up in our show right now, PDX metal, Tori Jerry, Heather Gear, we got Elon Blas, the Gamer MJ, Samer MJ, Tate Prime, Mr. Sentinel.
Starting point is 04:22:47 Tate Prime, El Poyo. Bonnie, all righty. Everybody. Got to head out. Thank you guys so much, much love, sincerely. I really love this one. Be well, be well, be thankful, be good to each other. Especially.

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