The Reel Rejects - SEVERANCE SEASON 2 Episode 4, 5, & 6 REVIEW!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:27 Anyway, let's get severed. All right, ladies and gentlemen, where we just watched severance, four, five, and six. Heck yeah. What a journey this is. Prepper, thanks for writing these down. You guys have been tasseled a lot lately.

Starting point is 00:01:50 Appreciate all your hard work. Please subscribe, click that bell. We've been getting these reactions up. best we can at this moment. Normally, we have questions from patrons, but we had to shoot this kind of an impromptu changes scheduled. There's been some unfortunate things behind the scenes for some people here. So we've had to reacclimate.

Starting point is 00:02:14 That being said, we're just going to talk then. Our own thoughts, it's hard to know what to talk about. We don't have questions. We need some... It's good television? It's good. We should read from the television assessment handbook. He'll tell us what to say.

Starting point is 00:02:36 Though this is the first time in this journey we've done, because it's been like three episode chunks where it's felt like perfect. This is the first time I'm like, that was a lot. I was like, I was like, I would just have done the two and then, yeah, we could have stopped at the snow episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this one's like, wow. That is a lot of, like, so much happened.

Starting point is 00:02:59 Like, I don't even know. My head feels like marks at the end there. I know. I know. I feel you. Oh, my God. That snow episode was pretty crazy, though. That retreat episode.

Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah. Yeah, that was nuts, man. The one I'm feeling for the most right now is hellie. Sure enough. Because that is, like, I'm finding her to be the most compelling. I said this about Dylan last time. but now I'm finding her to be the most compelling character because Helena

Starting point is 00:03:30 clearly is so drawn to this and a prisoner herself poses herself as head of the company to others well she's not she really keeps the appearance up but yeah yeah and she's drawn to Mark neither Helly wants to be here but both Hellies want a piece of that mark

Starting point is 00:03:49 and Mark and she kind of wants that Heli life but that that was so sad what was happening with hellie man I felt so bad for her almost every cry just like not being able to have that and it's it's a unique

Starting point is 00:04:06 way to handle like in a sense being assaulted being violated you know sure because with it's like within the own rules of the severance world yeah well having like a bit of commentary on it

Starting point is 00:04:22 it's strange it's strange you know like when we started this journey, I view the iny and outies is like kind of the same and like this guy, the memory's got to exist there because they're carrying around the same bodies and I feel like the bodies and minds

Starting point is 00:04:34 got to remember in some way. But the more time goes on, the more I'm like, I guess I do view them as separate. I mean, they are definitely like, uh, they are their own identities, I guess is how I would put it.

Starting point is 00:04:53 They're based on the same materials in a lot of ways. But yeah, it's like it does feel like in a lot of senses there are two different people and this whole idea they talk about in the later episode where, you know, there's this sermon about how, yeah, like, you know, maybe one version of you can, you know, achieve enlightenment or can be, you know, a loud eternal peace where the other version is going to rot in hell or whatever. It's a very, yeah, I think it just probes spiritually at the whole question at the core of the show, which is, you know, very. it's just another kind of lovely way to look at that and also twisted and sinister and yada yada um because yeah i mean with hellie it's yeah like they've made i agree with you it's like both versions now are are really engrossing because you're like damn what what weird invisible prison is helena egan trapped in and then also you know we know a lot about the prison that heli are is trapped in but even so i thought the way that they or articulated what happened here It was really nicely handled

Starting point is 00:05:58 because there are a lot of ways you could go about that and there are a lot of character responses and I appreciated how they handled it here like it is a bit uncomfortable and it is a bit twisted but they're also so past the point of knowing how these people's minds work who are all above them pulling the strings that yeah it's almost like you know what

Starting point is 00:06:21 it's fine it's fine let's just actually have the experience that is vital and that matters to us because what else is there really yeah i've been finding the this this season um while it keeps his commentary going about you know corporations religions and all that uh i've been finding you get it's it's getting way more personal way more intimate like it's it's touching more on the subjects of grief in a lot of ways like when i like how it's touches on these subjects specifically within the rules of the world

Starting point is 00:07:00 and not keeping it like kind of broad like when Irving quote unquote and he dies and Mark's an ability to like connect with Dylan and helly over this while also contending with the feeling

Starting point is 00:07:18 that he was also used and he can't even trust then you mirror that with his Audi also going through grief and bringing up the bargaining discussion it's like so much it's so much perversion of people's identity that they pray on when you look at like Jamel Tillman, Mr. Milchick again another character who is in a quote unquote position of power

Starting point is 00:07:43 but they're trying to strip him of who he is like to pray on the first with the paintings and then to pray on the language. That's something that makes him. him that he has had to be educated and better himself to speak with that and now they're like to dumb him down and to be critical of him on it bigger exertion of control because it's such a that's such a microaggression the whole like oh you're so well spoken oh you know like that I know a lot of a lot of people and a lot of cultures receive but I know a lot of black folks

Starting point is 00:08:20 in this life have received and yeah like the then them him trying to talk to Natalie for a brief moment about like the paintings how do you actually feel and it's like we already got I felt like a moment again in the physical acting in the previous block we watched that alludes to that but to recheck on it here and then to watch him suffer in silence yeah as he tries to live up to this system that like he must believe in some aspect of enough perhaps to override the idea that yeah he is being subjugated left and right and and no matter where he's you know strides to grow they will move the goalposts you know yeah well they how they handle the the the so an alien are you watching alien earth so an alien earth when they're dealing with

Starting point is 00:09:13 the synthetics how it's like children um consciousness transported to these bodies yeah there's something that's kind of similar with innies yeah because they don't have all these external experiences that have shaped them into being like cold-hearted or distant or pain that they there's an innocence that they naturally kind of possess where the pain comes from the um you know with withholding and the entrapment of it all like the the way how you know hellie and Mark made love there was something that felt very teenage like about it yeah and with dylan and his wife how she there's something in my brain was going this this must be kind of how she felt when she was first falling in love with him you know the the sweet man the tenderness of him uh the way he

Starting point is 00:10:16 the way he looks at her you know with fondness and adoration and desire and uh yeah when everybody's at home it just he's not that they're so disconnected yeah they're so disconnected there's there's almost it's like the way they're kind of dismissive of what an any is yet there's sort of this desire for the innie's life that's happening where the in his life's kind of seeming a little better in some ways you kind of see that with bert and irving of the fantasy of what it must be like in there and obviously there's contention with him in fields but the way they're like looking at each other while also cleverly building on mysteries you know like who is irving communicating to there's obviously more to bert that meets the eye the 20 years thing about how long lumen's been actually around and how bert's been involved in that ever since crazy stuff I have no idea where a lot of it's going

Starting point is 00:11:26 honestly it's uh they just keep open every fucking doors that are making it really hard to follow but yeah this is a this is a mind bender but it's got its grips in a way that feels just very

Starting point is 00:11:41 personal and emotional oh yeah um whereas I felt season one is amazing and I was really did connect and love the characters over time but it felt more about I felt like the commentary was kind of first sure and you know like it's character driven for sure um you can't do it without the character driven narrative but but now this is feeling like it is more for the like character like commentary is outy character any and now that any he's going more inward

Starting point is 00:12:14 with these characters is driving more is the more driving force now yeah then um then just the commentary which is still there uh and they they add more types of commentary to well it's just the commentary feels like it's kaleidoscoping that much more and like they're taking the breadth of questions you could use this premise to ask and kind of asking all of that i think it's really cool because you get yeah like a whole set of circumstances and sensibilities to use but you get it twice for so many characters and that does like there's so much contrast between the characters who aren't severed at all and the ones who are and then the severed versions of whoever the Indians and outies and there's so much to look at and I feel like this

Starting point is 00:13:02 whilst not feeling like it's ever lost the plot or become a mess it does feel like yeah it's being a little bit more broadly arching and a little bit more sort of philosophical and a little less like, ooh, we're dissecting this lore or this particular bit of commentary we're kind of levying with this story. I think season two is so far like better. Yeah, I mean, it's just deepening

Starting point is 00:13:28 and widening the rabbit hole and the mystery and the curiosities and yeah, it's delivering more stuff that is like unsettling and chilling and weird and then a lot of other stuff that is like serene and beautiful still. The stuff with Dylan in the, you know, family

Starting point is 00:13:44 visiting room with his wife and the weird rift that's growing between them is something that's like there's a sweetness, there's a sadness, there's a tragedy, there's a sort of like chance for a reclamation in that. Like there's so much here and I like that they're embracing that, you know?

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Starting point is 00:15:31 video yeah and there's also an activity to the way how lumen is operating where they think they can just get them back to working like yeah it with it with the religious facets to it all and it's crazy that it was helena who was laughing at the fourth appendix yeah like she doesn't buy the bullshit yeah it's like when you it remind me of what uh i won't always name check scientology but like you know it's like lea remini when like oh they pull you into the room it's very much scientology and they show you the sacred text and then you're like oh the sacred text is like a sci-fi novel or some yeah random shit and uh and yeah like i do appreciate especially as two people who grew up you know in church

Starting point is 00:16:24 with a lot of bible readings and stuff like that the whole story about you know him and his brother going into the woods and then the spilling of the seed and you you become this you melt into the earth as punishment for you know a very human a very you know just biological process uh yeah i think the way that they transcribe all these things and use religion and you can see this as a critique in some facets of religion but more so the way religious iconography dogma all that stuff can be like co-opted and mapped over some shadowy corporation or whatever belief system you want to really well at the end of the day when when people talk about like the system this system is a control of belief yeah you know and it's kind of like what the Matrix talks about I mean they're doing Matrix shit here it's like yeah the revolution they literally took the revolution and just like responded to it

Starting point is 00:17:23 and made it part of the software yeah you know it's really yeah it's really gross the warping of history that they consistently do they they have like no issue with however many it's a weird to like talk about sacred texts

Starting point is 00:17:41 and then ignore the Constitution. That's right. That's right. It needs you have a right to have a right. All that matters the second amendment. That's right. That's all the matter.

Starting point is 00:17:54 That's the whole constitution. Yeah, everything else. No, we got, the whole constitution is just this one amendment. Maybe the first, okay, the first two amendments. There you go. Yeah, but this is, this is, this is insane.

Starting point is 00:18:06 This is like really, I just keep wanting to know what's going to happen next. Yeah, this is bonks. And then even with, uh, brother-in-law's name rickin rickin that's what i mean like the way they're extending beyond the severed how lumen is that's that's corporate that's corporate america right now yeah like when when a government and a world is ruled by rich people yeah you know that it's what i've called it's not just corporation it's not separate it's like literally corporation running government

Starting point is 00:18:40 and we're seeing it. It's a turn like a sorry. Sorry to authoritarianism type of country. And we're watching. And I feel like this show was a great mirror to that of rich people pushing their own type of belief on the world. And now trying to control every facet of people's lives. It's an identity control. Totally.

Starting point is 00:19:07 And the sophistication to not stamp. out the thing that you are against or that's foiling your pursuit somehow. It's to co-opt it and declaw it so that you can use it to your own advantage. That's all this stuff with Rickin. As much as that's, you know, it's an aspect

Starting point is 00:19:24 of the show that you can kind of see coming or that's more of a lampooning that's direct at the same time. I like the way those scenes were handled because like you feel his lofty facade drop a little bit as he is basically explaining the logic of like, well, this would afford us a really nice lifestyle bump.

Starting point is 00:19:40 this would be the biggest opportunity like the way they appeal like they could have made the selfish nature of his being suckered by this in a way hamier way i appreciate them not doing that because even though you're like rick and no don't you see this is absolutely not the thing to do you do feel the humanity of the manipulation still and for a character who's often more of a joke or the butt of jokes i appreciate that even there you know they've made that sort of an interesting wrinkle yeah and i'm really worried for his sister because she's she's you know i feel like the most trustworthy character in a way and the most like purely motivated in a sense and yet she as marks like guardian angel of sorts is also

Starting point is 00:20:31 in a tough position because like lumen has ever a reason to not want to deal with her and i don't know what regabi is gonna you know how she's going to respond to having devon involved at all you know you know what i'm thinking with helena i think she's i think she's um not trying to help out the company right now i think she's trying to take it down a little bit yeah i can see it she wants to be free i mean she she doesn't she didn't want to go there she's she's officially a prisoner now yeah and i think when she went to mark i think she was intentionally trying to motivate him because she knows mark knows yeah the truth yeah I think she was like, I think she was like pushing because I think she fucking hates this company.

Starting point is 00:21:17 Because this is mess. And now she knows that her any authority she feels like she has is probably not real. No, she's just a puppet. Yeah, yeah. Literally, she's the severed person. Literally, they just override her, yeah, her plea. Yeah, because like you're the daughter, so it'll speak more volumes with your involvement. But she's just a pawn.

Starting point is 00:21:37 And they keep moving the goalpost on her too. Yeah, so I think she was intent. I don't think they had any idea what she was doing. And I think she was intentionally trying to get a, like wanted to push him in that direction. That's a good, that's a good call. Yeah. I would co-sign that call.

Starting point is 00:21:54 As the predictor of the, whatever, they even got a name for that. Like when they, the override protocol. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we need the handbook. We got to review the handbook. But, yeah, man, this is great stuff. Shows living up to the hype. Show enough.

Starting point is 00:22:12 The conversation. Damn. Four more episodes? That is insane. Yeah. And I like how they keep the philosophical conversation going. They really keep it going. I like the debate within the world.

Starting point is 00:22:25 Right down to when a religion is viewing what an Indian outy is. Like what has a Lutheran pasture view this, you know? Is it as a sin? Do we do it as souls? you know it's like great questions to ask in ease should get to experience true love actually I was

Starting point is 00:22:44 I was curious about that in hindsight I was like so is the idea that you got a severed the idea of your story is that you got severed in order to like have a chance at redemption for your soul in the hopes that what you won't be gay on the severed floor does it have to do with that

Starting point is 00:23:01 is it like we're at church and and you know the severed have souls of their own so maybe a part of us can go to heaven, maybe the church does. I don't know. I don't know where the Lutheran church stands on homosexuals. But either way, I was talking with a gay couple recently who, like very recent, who they are Christian. And I was telling them, like, it is strange to me how everyone is a sinner. It's kind of like the whole thing. Everyone knows premarital sex is a sin.

Starting point is 00:23:38 Most people, Christians and Catholics, do it. Those who condemn homosexuals, a lot of them do it. But for some reason, they've highlighted homosexuality a sentence and have magnified it to be this, like, crazy abomination when I'm like you know gambling's a sin premarital sex is a sin

Starting point is 00:24:10 there's a lot of just attitudes and thoughts that are sinful oh yeah but whoa what you two you're extra sinning there's like regular all these sins down here and then there's the capital S sins over here

Starting point is 00:24:25 Second Amendment it's all that will counts yeah there's no moral quandaries about killing anyone, self-defense or otherwise. I know. It's crazy. But if you're gay... Somehow war is justified. Anyway,

Starting point is 00:24:39 yeah. Anyway, it's crazy. But, hey, what are you guys thinking about this show? You know your thoughts. Try not to spoil it for us in the comments. You're going to frolic around this time? Let's get to it. Keep a lookout. I think there's...

Starting point is 00:24:56 I think we've got to do four next time. Four more. Yeah. Give us a bonus episode for the three-year wait. We had to endure my god god rewards those who are patient lumen gives lumen is good praise cure

The Reel Rejects - SEVERANCE SEASON 2 Episode 4, 5, & 6 REVIEW!!!

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