The Reel Rejects - SHERLOCK HOLMES (2009) MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:01:07 deducing every step of the mystery and if you happen to be listening to this on Apple or Spotify in podcast form leave us already in there too. It helps the channel mightily Ruxan. Yeah, Donald. How you feeling? That was really cool, man.

Starting point is 00:01:25 I really like stories where, you know, What is that saying about magic is just technology that you don't know about yet? It's just science that you don't know how to do, you know? Science that is yet to be explained. Right. You know, like things that just because you can't explain something doesn't mean it's magic. Yeah. And so I kind of thought that was really cool.

Starting point is 00:01:46 And I wouldn't have been able to explain that, but Sherlock was, which is why he's so experienced and brilliant. I also thought it was cool that at the beginning they trusted the audience enough to be like, this guy is such a prick. Matt Smith prosthetics, let's go. But you'll end up loving him by the end, and I really do. And I also think that having love interests humanizes people. And I think that it was really cool to watch Rachel McAdams and Kelly Riley be the love interests in this and also not be like what sometimes is of the 2000s, if that's when

Starting point is 00:02:19 this came out, like annoying, whiny, stay with me, don't go do this. You know, like Rachel McAdams is out there doing it ourselves. and Kelly Riley was like, yeah, do what you got to do. She's not saying, they're like, why did you miss family dinner again? Like, I just don't like that trope as much. So it was cool to see kind of the dynamics of the four of them. Also, of course, I think Mark Strong makes just such an excellent villain always. I love the twists and turns.

Starting point is 00:02:44 This is not what I thought that Sherlock was, like, as a character. And so it was cool that my expectations were one thing, but this kind of passed them and changed them a little. And I would be excited to see the next one. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this was super fun. And watching this, I think they've only made two. And I'm like almost astonished. I mean, we'll see how the second one goes down. Yeah. But I'm almost astonished that there aren't like five of these because, you know, like there are a bunch of Sherlock Holmes mysteries. And it's the kind of thing that would easily lend itself as long as they're making money, I guess. To, uh, were they making money? I guess we'll have to find out. But I mean, they at least made enough that they could. go on and do the one sequel uh and then i don't know if it's just that robert downy junior got busy with somebody other things or what but but yeah like this lends itself to being as

Starting point is 00:03:36 episodic as you please uh right so either way this was really fun yeah and uh guy richy like the combination of guy richy and sherlock holmes is a fun one because from the outside you're sort of imagining what that could look like and there are a lot of different ways i think you could go with that and it's interesting because you know guy richie certainly has gone from making his own autore movies to doing i feel like kind of like a few for them and a few for me you know like here's i'm going to do some disney stuff and i'm going to do some big tent pole stuff and i've seen a lot more of his not even a lot i've seen some of his recent things and not all of them feel like they're get to be fully authored by him like

Starting point is 00:04:19 in aladdin doesn't feel like it's 100% a guy richie movie it feels like a movie that occasionally let Guy Ritchie do his thing and then, you know, he's here to keep everything moving because he's got the experience for the rest of it. Whereas this felt like something where yeah, like he got to take this source material and make it his own

Starting point is 00:04:37 and kind of, like I feel like this is a really nice blend of the two. This is obviously like a well worn and sustaining, you know, concept Sherlock Holmes. It's been books. It's been TV. It's been movies. It's been all sorts of stuff. And

Starting point is 00:04:53 to dust it off for a modern age. I feel like Guy Ritchie makes a lot of sense because they are very British and obviously like a lot of the stuff he's best known for is like very British and also very kinetic and stylized and all that stuff that he brings specifically to the table. So like I thought this was a good combination if the goal is to like, yeah, we're going to make Sherlock Holmes. It's a bit more of a crowd pleasing blockbuster. It's a little bit more of a roller coaster.

Starting point is 00:05:20 They're more like emphasis on fight scenes. like cool, you know, deductive maneuvering during said fight scenes and like, you know, there are explosions. Like, you know, I wouldn't expect this to be like a one to one to what reading a Sherlock Holmes mystery is like, but I do appreciate

Starting point is 00:05:37 that they balanced out the sense of style and the production values with like, again, some really fun misleads with the costuming and the, you know, disguise element that is certainly, yeah, part of the character and also, yeah, getting to the end and be like, man, you know, this was,

Starting point is 00:05:53 you know a very convoluted set of circumstances that all led to this you know vast and fascinating little conspiracy um and there are just a bunch of you know motifs that appeal directly to me you know like who the shadowy cult who's pulling the strings of i'm with parliament and all that and we both seem to like that with the vampire stuff too yeah yeah and it has a lot in common with that and you know there's the occult side so it's like a little macabre and a little bit spooky and you know it's in the 1800s and it's already like kind of making you think of jack the ripper and yeah like uh uh interview with the vampire like the you know uh bram stoker dracula or things like that where you're yeah in you know full 1800s london or wherever it is and yeah like the gothic mixed

Starting point is 00:06:37 with the fun mixed with the odd couple mixed with the mystery it was like a really satisfying blend i thought yeah i'm so with you on uh so many fronts when you're describing the guy richiness of it all i feel like a great follow up to this would have been zach Snyder you know what I mean like the way that this was stylized just to see kind of what he would do like hold my beer like what's the next version of that Zach Snyder Sherlock Holmes would be off the wall off the wall and I would I would be so here for it like what does that look like also you just poured him over from indola homes but you mentioned the dynamic of the two and I and I will say I thought that that was one of the coolest parts because when we're about 15 or 20 minutes into the movie I was like why is Watson doing this? And for the same reason, Sherlock is, like, this is their thing.

Starting point is 00:07:31 It's, they're working with each other because they're the only two people who can help move the needle, move it forward, you know? And they have this weird bond and love for each other. But Watson isn't doing this to help Sherlock. Watson is, is doing this for the same reason Sherlock is. He, like, can't help himself. He's got to find the answer. Yeah. So that was cool to kind of reveal and have us see, you know, as like Sherlock keeps pulling in Watson every time with like, he baits him a little bit.

Starting point is 00:08:01 And then we see Watson goes to it. So that was really, really fun element of this. I'm watching their dynamic. They just have such a sibling dynamic to me. Like they just feel like brothers who are tied together. Yeah. And I really, I enjoyed the two of them a lot. I think that's why you and I are a little surprised if there's only two of these.

Starting point is 00:08:20 because when you have casting like that and a bond like that kind of makes me think oh you maybe at least three or four you know but maybe the next one's not as good or maybe it had to do with scheduling and conflicts do you know if the next one is Guy Ritchie

Starting point is 00:08:35 I thought he did these but I could be wrong I feel like it is I feel like they maintain much of the creative team it would seem like going forward and I think it's still Downey Jr. and Jude Law at least I don't remember who Let me look.

Starting point is 00:08:51 Again, I've seen the trailers for these things and stuff like that. I haven't. I don't know what to tell you in terms of like if they'll recast or not include Irene or Mary or any of those characters. Okay. Sherlock Holmes, a game of shadows is Guy Ritchie. All right, all right. And that's all I'll tell us from that. But it seems like that was in 2011. This one, all right.

Starting point is 00:09:18 This one was in 2009. Interestingly enough, Sherlock, the TV series with Benedict Cumberbatch, was 2010. So I wonder also if maybe that's why that they were running to Sherlock simultaneously. But it does look like we were also wrong about how many Sherlock movies there were. There was Sherlock Holmes 3 with Robert Downey Jr. Oh, no, it's in production. Oh, lovely. We're in pre-pro for that right now.

Starting point is 00:09:48 now. All right. Let's go. I'm glad to hear that. I mean, yeah, like, I would love to see them do it again. Dexter Fletcher as the director. Okay. Okay. That's exciting. He did Rocket Man and he's done a bunch of other stuff too. He did Bohemian. Oh, he was a producer on Bohemian Rhapsody. He did direct Rocket Man. Yeah. I think he is the one who came in and finished Bohemia Rhapsody. Yeah. I remember that. And then got to do completely Rocket Man. That's kind of interesting. Yeah. I'm excited for Dexter Fletcher and Dexter Fletcher if I recall has been he's an actor too so I think he's been in some Guy Ritchie stuff or you know at least has been in some Guy Ritchie-esque stuff yeah but that's cool I'm excited to hear that maybe you know what John it's almost like there's a method to

Starting point is 00:10:34 Greg's madness you know what it's almost like he knew there was a new one almost as you could argue that he might have had an inkling that's hysterical that I never even thought about that but it is a lot of years later so 2009 so that you said Iron Man came out in 2008? I believe so. So that makes sense that everybody was like, oh, yeah, Robert Donnie Jr. Yeah. Guess who's back?

Starting point is 00:10:56 Back again. And yeah, like, I bet before even the movie had come out, at least in the system, they were like, oh, dude, this guy's killing it. He's going to be hot again. You're going to want to get him in some stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. Yeah, totally.

Starting point is 00:11:09 100%. So this was, it was my final year of high school. You'd think this would have been a good one for me to watch it. school at that age but i'm surprised we didn't go in high school yeah i was gonna say this was nominated for two oscars really for what effects or something and production values or costumes on zimmer on zimmer was nominated for the music and art direction sure that makes a lot of sense yeah that does make a lot of sense it's just just Sherlock holmes multiple oscar nominee and like i really liked uh the music i thought the music and two i mean like you know hans zimmer

Starting point is 00:11:47 Garner's great respect, but also I think in the in the now as we're shooting this, you know, there's like a bit of a meme as to like what certain Hunzimmer scores might sound like. And this would, I always like, especially with composers when you see something or hear something, both where you wouldn't initially pick it out as being them. And then you're like, oh, I can hear it, but like I wouldn't have guessed. And yeah, like so many of the like violin and fiddle embellishments and the way the music really was timed emphatically to the editing. and stuff like that. Like, this was cool because it had like a lot of spectacle and a lot of, again, production design and flavor. Like, I like that they committed as much of a roller coaster as this is and as much like CG sweetening as there is and there are set pieces certainly in this movie that are maybe taking it again further toward an action adventure route than traditionally the stories would be. Like, I really appreciate that the production values are so it would seem carefully and lovingly

Starting point is 00:12:45 crafted. There's like the sets that they built and the coloring and the coloring and the costumes and all the different weird little and in a story that invites you to examine the frames and stuff like that's really lovely and two this is a kind of movie that I feel like you know you'll want to watch again partly because guy Ritchie's pacing and his editing style and his like freneticism like kind of makes for it's cool it works it's not like a complaint but it is one of those things where like you feel like you're kind of hurling through stuff and you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, pause this and like collect all the data in my mind. And so it gives you that feeling of like what it must be like to, you know, kind of keep up with Sherlock and whatever else is going on. Yeah, I thought that was a really smart way to go about it. And it's also interesting that you said the kind of movie you want to see again because I was thinking like, this would be so fun to watch with a massive group of people like at like an outdoor movie theater, you know, rewatch it and kind of pick up on that stuff. Um, there's some cool stuff that as I looked on the IMDB for. for the other information. It's a bummer I just call this cool

Starting point is 00:13:47 because it's more shocking. But the guy who played Dredger accidentally knocked out Robert Downey Jr. while filming a fight scene. Oh, no. I said, here's some cool stuff. I do not mean it like that. Hopefully it made for a cool stunt.

Starting point is 00:14:02 Imagine doing that to Robert Downey Jr. Like, that's Iron Man. You just got back and I broke him. That's crazy. Watson's line to Holmes. You know that what you're drinking. is for eye surgery is an obscure reference to Holmes cocaine usage. At the time, cocaine was used as a topical anesthetic for eye surgery in the stories

Starting point is 00:14:23 Holmes injects cocaine. Sure. Okay. You and I both were like, huh? Yeah, this is a deep cut there. After Guy Ritchie signed on as director, he insisted that the two most common cliches of Sherlock Holmes, the elementary, my dear Watson, Clip, and Holmes' dear stalker be dropped entirely.

Starting point is 00:14:42 So what is that, John? uh well yeah that that the elementary my dear one's elementary my dear watson oh i've never heard that yeah it's like a common sherlock holmes and what's the holmes deer stocker holmes dear stocker that's actually a little bit beyond my purview let's find out holmes deer stocker one word one word d e e e r yep there we go deer stocker oh oh oh oh oh oh the hat oh the hat The hat. That's called the deer stalker. I didn't know that. Yeah, I can see it now. I get it. I get how we arrived there. He was like, no, no, no. Attempting to escape the clutches of wearing a tight corset every morning,

Starting point is 00:15:23 Rachel McAdams would trick the costumers by pushing her stomach out or eating a big breakfast of oatmeal before being laced up. However, they eventually caught on to her roots. That's funny. She was really fun to watch, too. And I like the layers. Such a cool role. She's not in it as much as you might expect or like. but I mean she's certainly prominent I feel like I could have used a little bit more of her even and she had so many great layers going on beneath the surface like a great kind of roguish character agreed and different for her like you know you think about mean girls in a notebook seeing something like this it's like oh speaking of Rachel McAdams Richard McAdams Jude Law and Robert Downey Jr. reportedly did most of their own stunts fun I was making a joke about that earlier didn't realize that there was maybe validity to that joke I can't picture it. I mean, some of those stunts. I mean, that's why they probably said some, not all. I mean, yeah, there's certain things

Starting point is 00:16:19 where, like, to get that pop-up in camera. I imagine you would just want to do it mostly just to have the control over, like, we're going to make this look good. How about jumping out the window and do it? That's got to be a stunt guy. Or some. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:16:31 Like, it definitely makes me want to go back and look and examine. And also, too, I appreciate just here as we're kind of assessing all these things. The fact that there is a, a good amount of like examining even just through body language even if it's not like in the most explicit parts of the dialogue you still kind of watch and get to ponder as we did through the reaction like what is the nature of their relationship like why do they continue to consort

Starting point is 00:16:56 with each other why does watson stick around you know how do they really feel about each other and yeah like i i appreciate that with as many things as this movie was doing and had going on it still had an eye for that the sort of yeah like what is at the core of this relationship between these two guys and it doesn't need to be super sentimental about it or super explicit again but i do appreciate the fact that those multiple layers were working like i can imagine a version of this that would be a lot less exciting just for the fact that like this seemed to really inject a bunch of spectacle but it didn't do it at the cost of like everything else uh because sometimes movies like this can get turned into roller coasters in a way that kind of sucks the soul out or kind of makes them

Starting point is 00:17:40 feel hollow and I didn't feel that way about this which is nice makes me more curious about like a guy richie king arthur you know because i haven't seen his version of that um well we got a couple questions from neither have i that's the uh charlie hanuman one right i love him yeah i've seen him in a couple of things and i liked him in those couple of things uh we got a question here from j rushden and hey if you guys want to get privy to what we're shooting on the day by day and maybe even throw a question in you can do that over at Patreon you become a royal reject

Starting point is 00:18:15 you can guide the convo here on the Chanel question for Sherlock we better call Olivia and see if the cats are around like who is favorite Watson actor or sidekick of detective

Starting point is 00:18:29 actor so I think you're asking who's your favorite actor to ever play Watson this would be your first time right who else plays Watson I was going to say let's look up but he said Watson actor or sidekick of detective

Starting point is 00:18:40 actor, like of any detector? Detective? I guess. I guess. Or maybe Is your favorite Watson or just any sidekick to a brilliant detective? I don't know any other

Starting point is 00:18:54 detective. I mean, like true detective stuff I like a lot of the sidekicks, but um okay. Oh cool. So Martin Freeman, Jude Law, Morris Chestnut. He's Watson right now on a new TV.

Starting point is 00:19:10 really uh it looks like that's only those three right yeah well john c riley was uh yeah he was watson in the hit netflix comedy sherlock and watson or holmes and watson is there is there does a nola have one uh i don't know um i haven't seen any other one so i'm not a good person to answer did you see any of this uh i've seen martin free of martin freeman is the only one that i have like a great recollection of because I've seen a good amount of the Sherlock episodes at least once. So, and I, you know, I very much enjoy him as an actor. Jude Law, like, for this version, you know, and for, yeah, the role that Watson, you know, brings to the story.

Starting point is 00:19:55 Like, yeah, I really liked him as the sort of rock that holds a lot of things about this together. God, favorite sidekicks of a detective in general. I'm going to go Gus from Syke because that. counts um let's see do we have any more got a lot of pirates and naked gun question i've never seen naked gun oh well you missed out today maybe another time you'll get to see it man three fantastic movies i'm excited says pet my chicken for sherlock holmes who is your guys favorite detective or detective like characters okay we're broadening up from the last question hmm i mean i'm a i'm a tv girl so i immediately think about all the TV shows

Starting point is 00:20:40 like True Detective What other detective shows are there? I'll look. Do you have one off the top of your head? I'm going to just name check Syke again. Shouts out to Colchek. I loved Clarice. I mean, FBI, are you a detective?

Starting point is 00:21:01 I mean, she's getting to the bottom of stuff. She was so great. I feel like we can throw her in. detective TV shows I mean I'm sure I've seen a bazillion of them Who comes to mind There have been some cool

Starting point is 00:21:16 Lens on Reacher but yeah I mean Jack Reacher's a good one There are a lot of great Great Poirot stories out there Oh I'm loving the show high potential She's not exactly a detective But I think it's just so great If you want to call poker face

Starting point is 00:21:31 She's not exactly a detective But they kind of do like detective like things Agent Dale Cooper, Twin Peaks. Good one. Those are some. Well, I guess he's an agent. How comment

Starting point is 00:21:46 on this video, I mean, there's so many great old, like, film noir detective movies too, like the, like, you know, Humphrey Bogart, Sam was his name, Marlowe detective stories. Movie detectives. I was going to say.

Starting point is 00:22:02 Robert Mitchum in some old movies, I assume. I mean, oh, yeah, and Zodiac. That was such a good movie. Really good one. Or who's the, I mean. Oh, and Glass Onion. So fun. Oh, Benoit Blanc. So fun.

Starting point is 00:22:21 Wow, Prisoner. I mean, there's a lot of great detectives. Oh, dude. Of course. Detective Loki, my man, my favorite Jake Gyllenhaal performance, prisoners. Really good. Hells, yeah. Really good one. We've named a number of good detectives, but we failed to name the great. mouse detective oh that's our bad our bad failure on our parts but thank you pet my chicken billy barns detective gadget no question that's a good one too just hype go go gadget comment sherlock holmes i was just about to request this one they are my favorite guy richie films as much as i adore benedick sherlock

Starting point is 00:22:56 in the tv show robert downy junior and guy richie come together to make a fantastic two movies and my god those fight scenes are awesome they cannot wait for the reaction and that was really cool like i think this must have also been on the heels of a 300 and Guy Ritchie was already doing speed ramping and stuff like that. But yeah, the way he did the seeing that fight play out in his reasoning of the fight and then having that tension of like, is it going to go how he imagined it? And then we do just see it in like regular time. It was really cool. What's your favorite Guy Ritchie movie? I have to look at a list of all of them in order to.

Starting point is 00:23:29 There are still a few of his like most seminal classics that I haven't seen. I haven't seen Lockstock and two smoking barrels I haven't seen I haven't seen Snatch which we watched on this channel

Starting point is 00:23:42 me and Aaron go check that out I've seen Ministry of Ungentlemanly warfare Aladdin we're gonna have to start naming some of them

Starting point is 00:23:52 You see ma'am from uncle Naur Naur Naur I haven't seen that You see the gentleman Nor Okay

Starting point is 00:23:59 So two of my favorite things of his Have you watched Mobland it? No. Oh my god. So both the gentleman and Mobland are two of his shows. They were both phenomenal. Mobland was just on.

Starting point is 00:24:12 It's so great. I really enjoy the gentleman also. I had so much fun with those. I didn't see the gentleman movie. I only watched the show, but I think he's good in television as well. Sounds like we have some Guy Ritchie catching up to do. We do in fact.

Starting point is 00:24:28 But yeah, like to, what I would hope kind of is like if they could do what we do with Godzilla, where there's like have Japan making their thoughtful Godzilla movies that are like more toward the tradition of what the you know character was actually created for then we can do our like American like

Starting point is 00:24:44 we're doing crazy neon shit like you know if we could do like granted Guy Ritchie also British but you know if you could do some kind of like Masterpiece Theater BBC level Sherlock that's like more traditional or cerebral and then we come over here and we do Guy Ritchie like cool

Starting point is 00:25:00 blockbuster Sherlock like I think that would be a lovely like you know best of both world scenario. I'm with you. That would be awesome. Speaking of neon, were you seeing the neon green in the entire time in here? And I kept thinking it was part of the shot. And I was like, ooh, weird choice. And I was like, that's not a choice. He had these, yeah, neon green rope lights. He's like, these are my aesthetic signature. In places where there were ropes and stuff. I was like, what? Yes. They put Christmas lights on all the rope. Just one anachronistic detail. Exactly, Don. You

Starting point is 00:25:31 get it. All right. Do we have any other things? to address before we get out of here well gang thank you I'm still on that thing that whole thing where he's like at the carriage and he's like and then we rewind and we do it yeah it was cool yeah I got snuck them right past me some good movie magic

Starting point is 00:25:48 and I like that they kept our man shrouded and uh you know did not confirm the voice I have suspicions who did you say it was I'm not saying no you already said I don't want to say it but you said it I'm just going to go back and watch the reaction that's fine this guy who I love

Starting point is 00:26:04 Who has a very distinct voice. Why are you doing this? What's his name? I'm not even going to tell you. He's got a famous dad, though. Is Richard Harris is going to be him. I don't know. It sounded a lot like his voice.

Starting point is 00:26:18 It did like... No, definitely. It sounded like a British Willem Defoe. I'm telling you. If it's British Willem Defoe, I will be very... It's definitely not because we would know if Willem Defoe was in it. I'm saying that's the, like, tone of his voice. Yes, in fact.

Starting point is 00:26:31 But I admire that. Because, like, at the time, if you're a... Sherlock Holmes head, you were probably sitting there going, like, oh, who's who could be? I got theories and stuff. And maybe I, you know, too, because like, you know, at the time, I don't know. Even if it is him, at the time, I don't know what his stature would have been for people to be like, well, of course. So, like, maybe people wouldn't have been that big video.

Starting point is 00:26:52 People wouldn't have known his voice that well. But anyway, I'm excited if that's the case. And I'm excited to share it with all you guys. Thank you for the questions from our royal rejects. Thank you to you guys for joining us. on the video and yeah we'll catch you for the next mystery and until then the game is afoot

The Reel Rejects - SHERLOCK HOLMES (2009) MOVIE REVIEW!!

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