The Reel Rejects - SHŌGUN 1x03 "Tomorrow is Tomorrow" Breakdown & Review

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Starting point is 00:01:26 Yes. Episode three. I really, really love this episode. I mean, I've loved all three so far. It's just phenomenal. Again, the world building, just living in this universe. It's just so phenomenal. And just so many different things going on. It's just incredible. Again, the politics and just everything. I really like, I'm going to get into the minutia's of everything, but just even like a character like Rodriguez. I know I mentioned a couple times during the reaction. I really like his character. And I think there's so much depth going on. here even with side characters like that and I like that they paid off like you know they they laid down that seed that you know um blackthorn you know saved his life or helped save his life uh when he was drowning and then um you know he gave him that inch so that he wouldn't uh drown there and just like little things like that um so i i love things like you know character development and moments

Starting point is 00:02:21 like that such great stuff um and then also too there's always that feeling of tension and suspense in this show. They do such a great job there. I mean, that whole thing were Ishido? Yes. I got a name right. Yes. I'm so, like, proud of myself.

Starting point is 00:02:39 With Ishido, when he came onto Tornaga's, you know, into his, what's the name I'm trying to, his home, his area is. Yeah, I guess into the, into the quarters. Yes. There you go. When he came on there and then the whole diversion that they came up with, I mean, again, I was just so stressed out. Obviously, during action sequences, you know, you want these, because you're so invested in these characters, you want them to survive, of course. But even in a moment like that where no action sequence is happening, I mean, they do such a good job of making you feel so much tension and suspense in certain, and just moments like that where no action is actually happening.

Starting point is 00:03:20 I just like I love moments like that and again that one shot we got to where it was like whether it was a dolly or a drone and then you see the scope of everything I just this show is just so damn well done and and also too just seeing where the allegiances lie and all the manipulation that's going on there's just so many different facets that I find myself like just so intrigued by and again I just I know I've said this before too and I say said it in episodes one and two. I love, I mean, it can be a bit much sometimes, but I love that this show does not hold your hand. It just really, it really just shows that, like, hey, we trust you, the audience to just not be on your phones, pay attention, and really just gather and soak all this information in.

Starting point is 00:04:10 But I'm loving it so much so far. I hate the ending of every episode because I want more so badly. but what did you think of episode three? Yeah, no, I just continue to be super engrossed by this, and I think it's a really compelling portrait they have drawn of the world at this time. And yeah, like this moment in obviously Japanese history and the varying tensions and dramatically speaking, it's very satisfying because there are a lot of things they set up

Starting point is 00:04:41 that they don't seem to be too precious about, that come to a head pretty directly. and I think that's always a sign of, you know, a drama that is really apt to get into the nitty, gritty of things. And, yeah, again, watching all the different allegiances at play and watching as the different considerations, guide everybody. And, yeah, like, I'm fascinated to see what becomes of Yibushige, because, you know, he clearly is riding the line, and Torunaga is clearly aware of that. Ishiro, also aware of that. And everybody kind of has to almost hide in plain sight in a way. Like, it's fascinating to watch as everybody, like, makes a show out of,

Starting point is 00:05:25 or at least, you know, makes a point to address and behave in accordance with whatever protocols we've agreed upon, whilst also, you know, moving things in the shadows and everything. And so, yeah, it's got to be a place. You understand why he says that thing about, like, you only have yourself. You're playing a game of friends and enemies with his son. When, like, you know, a character like Yabushiyah really exemplifies kind of the whole point of that. It's like this guy is playing friend to both these guys. He could be, he's in some way an enemy to both.

Starting point is 00:05:58 And ultimately, we'll see who he's more of an enemy to. And it's things like that that are quite fascinating. Or like with Mariko's husband, that character, you know, being a guy who, Buntaro, like, you get the sense that he's probably. not the best guy to be married to like all the domestic moments with him at least seem pretty stifling if not perhaps maybe potentially abusive or whatever right but you know you does beg you to wonder like well who is this guy actually why is he the way that he is and you get these quick glimpses and then yeah a character who i think they're playing on your audience expectation of like oh man this guy like it especially because they are doing some subtle hints uh that you know that Blackthorn and Mariko should get together in some way, shape, or form that, you know, start as other people, you know, throwing those ideas out there. And then as the episode goes, clearly they're forming some kind of bond or mutual respect. But, you know, because of those things, I feel like there's a kind of natural reaction you might

Starting point is 00:07:03 have to a character like Buntaro kind of assuming him just an antagonist of sorts. And so here, like, it is kind of inspiring in a way to watch as you see the quality of his character even if it's not a perfect character in every capacity. But when he's out there fighting on behalf of his Lord, fighting on behalf of all the things that his Lord stands for, and is basically giving them that crucial opening. I love the way that they portray these things because, yeah, like all their forces are formidable.

Starting point is 00:07:34 These are all guys who are smart and strategic. And it has enough of an air of mystery around certain events where you can go, damn, who is really pulling, which strings here, and obviously here we have kind of confirmation that at very least, you know, via the you know, via

Starting point is 00:07:55 the Catholics who are in the area kind of controlling things, they're able to oh God, what is that guy's name? The guy who we always call the greedy guy. The greedy region. Kimio or whatever his name is. Yeah, that character, obviously, they're confirmed as

Starting point is 00:08:12 you know, conspiring directly. Kind of like the arm of the Jesuits. Yeah, sort of being their instrument through which to take out, you know, this problematic player on the board who threatens to, you know, again, disrupt the narrative that they've created again

Starting point is 00:08:30 around the idea that, like, we're the only outsiders in the world. And, uh, and, yeah, on the heels, it's like you have all that stuff that we learned in the first two episodes, especially, uh, that scene in the second episode where he draws the map of the world for Torinaga. shows him, you know, sort of the agreement that everybody came up with about who would inherit

Starting point is 00:08:50 what sides of the world. Yeah. And it's like, well, this is all happening. You know, you've got, it reminds me that, oh, yeah, then you've got people going over to the Americas and doing stuff, you know, and, yeah, I don't know. Just like, I think character illustrations like that are a lovely flourish in a show that already has, you know, fascinating historical and political context. For sure. Good performances and all that. For sure. And, I mean, just, also too just talking about tension i really loved i'm going to talk about a lot of the interactions but especially that interaction uh between uh ishido and um the greedy regent like that it seemed like that was one of the first times like because usually it's the four at odds with torunaga

Starting point is 00:09:32 yeah so actually seeing those two at odds with each other and seeing like dude we had a plan like it was to stop the uh stop blackthorn and like you disrupted that like seeing them at odds with each other like that was I was great interaction right there like seeing the drama but between those two right there I'm like again feeling the the tension there that was yama is that guy's name ki kiama kiama yeah so uh kiyama and ishido I love that exchange between the two because again all the the the drama and the tension and the discourse has been you know the four regions and toranaaga and speaking in torunaga I know I keep saying he's such a master strategist I love the plan he came up

Starting point is 00:10:14 The chest moves, but again, you know, hiding, you're going in disguise and hiding, which again, so much tension. Using the fact that they're so intent on making sure that she leaves the area, you know, and, you know, she's not a prisoner, you know, like she can come and go at any time and here, we're going to transfer her out now and using that as a means of keeping her there and getting Tornaga out. Yeah, and then also having his right-hand man, having him deliver the news. said, oh, you don't have a reason, sorry, Hiromatsu, having him deliver to Ishido. Yeah, sorry. We got to have five. Now you can't vote him out. You need five to vote.

Starting point is 00:10:54 Now you only got four. He's resigned. Such brilliant storytelling and character. I just love intelligent characters like this. I mean, it's already so damn invested, but you give me this much of an intelligent character. I'm like, I fucking love him so much. Well, yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:08 And I think, too, it's hard because you got to make sure that you're actually writing cleverly for multiple characters and I like that right now it does feel and even in through the character of ishido uh later on when he has that uh meeting with kiama that confrontation of sorts uh you know i almost get the sense that like i like that you have all these opposing uh clans and regions because like obviously they're all pitted against toronaga so we can all view all of them kind of in an antagonistic light but even within that they each have their own shades and dimensions And, like, Ishido doesn't necessarily strike me as the worst of that. Like, he certainly commands, you know, kind of all of the...

Starting point is 00:11:52 He speaks for everybody in a lot of ways. But I could also see him being wary of certain treachery around him as well. And I could see us getting, you know, glimpses into his brilliance as much as his antagonism in the future. And, and, yeah, like, the brilliance of a Toranaga, like, is all the more accentuated by any kind of brilliance of his rivals. Yeah, and I'm excited and curious as to see, like, when Ishido, when he finds out, because I have a feeling that it's, again, not making, like, news here, but I have a feeling that he's going to find out the Kiama. I have a feeling he's going to find out that Kiama is working in tandem with the Jesuits. So when he finds that out, and again, they need five regents. Obviously, one has resigned. Wait, Ishido, I think he knows. Oh, that he's working with? Yeah, because I feel like that was part of the point of that last scene there was sort of like, hey, man. I felt like there was some double... Because there's also a lot of double speak that happens.

Starting point is 00:12:46 No, no, I understand that. I wasn't sure. Like, I knew that he knew that he was, like, messed up the plan there, but I didn't realize that he, like, full on, like, knows that... Yeah, because he tries to play it off, like, it's bandits or something. But they, the way they're talking, it's like they're talking in a way that in choice of words still kind of satisfies the protocol. But I got the sense that, like...

Starting point is 00:13:11 No, you're probably. Because he says there are too many bandits in the city, and then Ishido responds. Like, we agreed on a lawful execution. And then they start talking about Toranaga. It's like all this stuff that's like, they're talking in two levels. I'm surprised he's okay with him working with. I know it's all about like stopping Blacktharm. I'm surprised he's okay with him working with the Jesuits in tandem like that.

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Starting point is 00:17:30 Well, and that's a thing too is, again, I feel like that is going to sew even more. It's like you already have the conflicts between these regions and the civil wars that sort of brew underneath or the potential for that. And then you have outsiders, you know, further warping your idea of both their presence here and the rest of the world. And so I have to imagine that a lot more people are going to awaken from these things as the show goes on. Like that's the thing is like even though you know that like conflict lies ahead. and that'll probably get very physical very soon. Like, I'm still sort of, again, ignorant to a lot of the fine details of history. I am sort of fascinated to see what this is going to pop off into

Starting point is 00:18:14 because I don't think it's just going to lead to a linear like, oh, this guy versus that guy kind of thing. And that's what's so fun. And too, like, oh, man, that little diversion Blackthorn makes. Like, that was maybe one time. And I love that scene. No, don't know. Like, I agree.

Starting point is 00:18:30 A great moment. It is the one time maybe where, like, it's just enough. to where the guy's like, hey, Ishido, you know, he wants you guys out of here. So, like, he causes the diversion for just long enough that it allows, you know, for some other decision to be made rather than him just being executed or something. But, yeah, like, I really liked that choice, too. I think amid all the political and religious machinations and the realization that especially at this point in time, like, religion is a political machine, too, in a different sense than it is now, because of, where the world is at with all sorts of things. So, yeah, oh, damn, I think I lost my train of thought.

Starting point is 00:19:12 Oh, you're good. But also, too, again, as I mentioned at the end of episode two, I love the development and the relationship between Torinaga and Blackthorn. I think that's something so special and something to behold, just the way they're interacting with each other and the way I was teaching him to dive. Like, you can tell something special is brewing between those two. Like, he sees, you know, something, again, something special in him and just, excuse me

Starting point is 00:19:37 I just again I feel like something not the only one I lost his train of thought but we'll each find him again yeah what was I gotta say

Starting point is 00:19:47 but yeah no and also too I just like the how like he found out the stuff from the Jesuits like oh okay he's this pirate punishable by death and all that and I just love the like the double

Starting point is 00:20:00 meaning stuff like you said and now he's like oh it's gonna take a long time to translate Like, I just love all that stuff again. I just, the character development and the relationships between those two characters, it's just so meaningful already to me. I mean, they haven't had a ton of screen time together. Yeah. But those two right there, like, it's already, like, I love those two guys. They have so much on-screen chemistry together.

Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah, I love watching them back and forth. And the way that their performances, I mean, they speak toward each other. But I love the way that their performances have to be physical. in a sense because they're never understanding one another in context of the scene immediately. So there's so much that's traded in looks and gestures. Yeah, and I feel like to Tornaga sees a lot of himself in Blackthorn in certain, you know, respects as well.

Starting point is 00:20:49 They have a similar spirit, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and they both put their money where their mouth is in a lot of ways. And too, like I loved getting, like, it really exemplifies a world where sort of like you're only really as solid as the current deal you're in the mid- of, you know, brokering and or making good on. So, like, watching them skip stone around as like, they're like, well, the black ship is leaving, which was going to be a bad thing.

Starting point is 00:21:13 But then, well, that's also our way out. So even though that that chess piece is moving in favor of, again, the hold that the Jesuits have on this region of the land, it's also creating this opening for us. And then you've got Blackthorn being passed back and forth because nobody wants, you know, his knowledge to get out. And then you have that thing with Rodriguez, which, which, like I love the tension back and forth because you can tell that there is you can tell yeah that there is some kind of mutual respect or mutual sort of kinship that they share somehow even though yeah like there are very real ways in which they are pitted against each other and I loved the way that scene was played both from an action perspective and from an acting perspective when it came to the choice to ultimately give him that inch of a gap to make it so that he could escape as well for sure and then you know them Switching chips and all that.

Starting point is 00:22:06 It's so good. And I remember thinking earlier, too, I was like, because when he finally woke, excuse me, it was either episode one or two, I'm sorry, I forgot which episode. But when Rodriguez finally woke after Blackthorne had saved him, was like, why is he revealing this information telling Blackthorne? I know you, who you really, I got this stuff. It was like, didn't he just save your life? I'm like that they finally paid that off right here.

Starting point is 00:22:25 Because it's a world where, yeah, it feels like that stuff's important. Yeah, it's all about allegiance and all that, of course. It makes more sense there. Yeah, and back then it's like the world, you just don't have the view. want anything so in a way all you can do is be like all i know of society is us and everybody else is unknowns of course um i also think something big is brewing i think as you pointed out with that character who lost her husband and her baby we saw what the ashes oh yeah i'm looking forward to seeing yeah is that fuji i'm looking forward to seeing where i mean also to the acting uh

Starting point is 00:22:55 the performance you only had a couple minutes in this episode but i like the message that uh hiromatsu uh was giving her it was hiromatsu i believe right uh was telling her my grandfather yeah it was like hey i i know it's obviously difficult right now with the loss of your husband and your baby but you know it's like what we're fighting for is something bigger yeah you're gonna be a part of yeah and like now you've got a new mission uh now in life uh and i'm looking forward to seeing where her character goes from here uh because obviously you know she's going through a very difficult and depressing time understandably so so um i'm fascinated by the possibilities and i love this actress so far again yeah not a ton of screen time but

Starting point is 00:23:34 but I'm, like, fully into seeing where this character goes from here. You know, just from a story perspective and character-wise. Yeah. But, yeah. God. This show is so damn good. Yeah. Loving, love and loving it.

Starting point is 00:23:47 And, yeah, watching, too, is, again, like, so much of the physical action that's happened, I guess, and the wrap up is, it's like so much of the stuff that's driving, you know, again, these different regions to conflict has been sewn by the influence or direct intervention of, you know, these Jesuit characters. And even they are fascinating. I mean, especially the one monk, I think, Alvilo. Yeah. Because he does, again, as Alvito, as so many of them do, does make sort of a point of trying to stand on integrity in sight of other people, but is also, like, very strategic. Correct. And, like, in conniving when it comes to, like, the grand mission.

Starting point is 00:24:31 And to a degree, everybody thinks that their version is the right one. and their version is, you know, the truth. Well, even he was getting a little frustrated with the head of the Jesuit. He was like, but, you know, he's, we're getting a church in Edo, I believe it was, right? Yeah. And he was like, but let's just agree to what he's saying. It's like, I know he's got to kind of stand in between two as well. But he does seem like a faith, too, because, you know, it's also you're drawing a version of the church that is quite different from the way that we know it now that is a much more sort of forceful presence.

Starting point is 00:25:04 in the world and I think would probably divide you between are you a more are you more a person who is concerned with faith and the and the you know acts of faith or are you more of a person who's interested in the expansion that the monetary flow that's all about the profit john yeah and the amount of influence you can garner in the world like yeah it's it's just it's really i think at least in my perspective and yeah and as we've been saying here both really well drawn Yeah, and... They just do so many... There's so many different things

Starting point is 00:25:38 that they do so well on the show. That's why I... Apologies, but that's why I say so many different times when I'm watching this is so damn good. There's so many different facets of things that are done so well. And you can tell the show is done with so much love and care. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:52 I'm so appreciative of it. Yeah, it just makes it really transportive. It makes it really feel like you just peered into this moment in history for a little while and, you know, got to experience some of... You know, history is wild. And I think it's easy to think, like, oh, it's just dry information. But, like, so much of history is wild, especially in earlier times without as much technology. So, yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:14 Is it time for episode four, please? Yeah, I want to watch it so bad. Soon enough, Andrizio. But, yeah, really great cinematography. I thought really well-written, directed, paste. And that music, too, when Mariko, when her husband, when he sacrificed him. Or did the heroes fight to the end? That music, Cepfis there.

Starting point is 00:26:34 was yeah the last stand thank you that was absolutely epic and sad at the same time sap set what was the word you came up it is not sapphic because that is like what was the word you came up with i mean sepick but that's not a good one okay well what we'll think of something you guys let us leave your best terminology for sad epic combined and whatever it was it was it was really beautiful music but all the music that's done in this by atticus ross and we'll learn the two composers at some point before we get to episode 10 yes we will and my man's got named he got an honorary name i'm excited yes got his honorary japanese name i have to look up the meaning of that yeah and again

Starting point is 00:27:12 i love that he's really earning toranaga's respect and uh there's a friendship brewing very very excited to see how it grows gang leave all your thoughts down below thank you so much for joining us and we'll uh we'll catch you next week cheers

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