The Reel Rejects - Silver Surfer Female Casting (Fantastic Four), Jon Bernthal Punisher Returns, & The Matrix 5 - LIVE

Episode Date: April 6, 2024

BIG NEWS THIS WEEK!! Julia Garner, yup a lady, is playing Silver Surfer in the new Fantastic 4 movie, set photos of Daredevil Born Again emerge of Jon Bernthal back as The Punisher, The Matrix 5 is an...nounced without the Wachowskis involved, but instead Drew Goddard. Coy Jandreau & Greg Alba are here to break down this weeks biggest stories as well as answering your questions before we head into CinemaCon where we await the Joker 2 (Joker Folie à deux) Trailer, and anticipate any other news. Marvel Phase 5 has been kicking off which will see the introduction of Deadpool in Deadpool & Wolverine featuring Hugh Jackman, the X-Men, Fantastic Four (Pedro Pascal), & MUCH MORE to come while we eat up X-Men 97. #Marvel #MCU #silversurfer #fantasticfour #marvelphase5 #xmen #moviereaction #Xmen97 Follow Coy Jandreau: Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau... Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Aparrel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG On INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 you know what it doesn't even matter for a lot i'm just happy we're just going to be in your company today we're just vibing on a saturday yeah just vibing on a saturday i am doing the intro just in case we are actually live i don't don't know if we have succeeded or not, but welcome to the live stream. Hey, if we're live in the chat, can you tell us if you can hear us? That's a good sign. Just need a just need a confirmation here. Just emotionally.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Anyone at all. I need to know the audio's working. It's been a while since Greg has had to do the tech here. And I'm just trying to make sure we're live. We're live and you can hear us. That is the most important thing that we need right now. John's actually getting a Saturday. So we're in here learning as we go.
Starting point is 00:01:32 He'll be in here in a couple hours. Never mind. I take it back. Greg's getting a Saturday evening. John's getting a Saturday morning. Yeah. All righty, guys. Well, thank you so much for everyone who waited patiently for us to go live.
Starting point is 00:01:45 This is going to be a really fun time. I can feel it. I can feel it. I sense it. I can serve my energy for this. I feel like it's going to be a lot of energy. Thank you to our first super chat. We do not end a stream until we go through all super chats in stream labs.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It is an amazing way to support the channel. We really do appreciate it, and it's a great excuse to keep staying live. Even when we're like, we should end, no, you guys keep us live with your hard-earned dollars. I really appreciate it. Also, leave a like on the stream. Yes. I think we should just hop right into it, but first, want to shout out a few people who are here. We got Greg McColley saying Greg's unite.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Coy, shout someone out, would you? Nora Mack is in here. I saw Christian Unpronounceable at the top, who was here and at Braycru. very often. I appreciate him very much. Ronan Unchained. We saw WonderCon last week. He was at WonderCon. Just last week. Thank you to all. It came out to our Wondercom panel. That was a lot of fun. That was
Starting point is 00:02:39 the most existential and impactful and poetic panel I've ever been a part of. And I do panels for a living. It was a strange one because of how sincere. Yeah, like for us a snarky, ironic sarcasm-fueled channel. It was very sincere. Yeah, it was. It was. I liked it. I really enjoyed people connecting
Starting point is 00:02:57 and it actually being about the humanity of the because something we don't get to talk about a lot because of the aforementioned sarcasm. Absolutely. All righty, guys. Well, yeah, Super Chats and all that do help out with the channel and because playback on these are always a little bit finicky. You never know. Coy might slip up and get us demonetize. Sometimes I say C words.
Starting point is 00:03:15 But I'm not going to. I've gotten so much better. I say new words that are probably good. But I learn from my mistakes. Coy, I think we should just kick off the stream immediately. Immediately. Let us talk about this female. Silver Surfer casting news
Starting point is 00:03:32 that is going down. We want to talk about Matrix 5. We want to talk about John Bernthal returning, whatever else you guys got as well. I want to talk about Supergirl. Do you? Yeah, that's the main thing. Coy was like, put it in the thumb. And you're like, not going to happen. I don't think today's the day. But
Starting point is 00:03:47 a female Silver Surfer, it's being quite the controversy. You're seeing the arguments happening on the sphere. Yep. You know, it's like, some are like, hey, don't you read the comics. It happens. Some are going, woke others are going i yeah i get it happens in the comics but you should start off with the original silver surfer there's all kinds of thoughts running around the atmosphere now before
Starting point is 00:04:11 koi goes on a tangent and i know that's who you guys want to hear we're just revving up koi right now he is just running waiting for that light to turn green while gregg just stalls for time here for him um i am like i'll wait i don't really care that's my opinion i don't really have a strong passionate opinion about it. I was like, let's just wait and see. I'd rather just wait to find out if it, if it all turns out all right in the end, because that's all we can really do.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You know, how many times have we got a mad at casting, and then the casting comes out and we're like, wow, never mind. That was excellent. Now, granted, I know Marvel's been a bit of a finicky journey, but I know they really want to nail this. So I'm just going to hold out hope, because we want to bring a little bit of positivity to a platform that can so easily just be the same echo chamber of rage bait.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Coy, how are you? You tell us what's going on, my friend. Okay, so the casting of Julia Garner is really interesting because of the way Marvel casts. I think what happened here is much like Chad McBosman came in for Drax on Guardians and then was cast in Black Panther, I think both Anya Taylor Joy, Julia Garner, and Kirby all came in for Sue Storm. And in this case, it ended up being her cast as Shalabal. Now, what's interesting about that to me is I would personally, if I was telling this story,
Starting point is 00:05:35 have her character be a way to illustrate a multiverse of different characters illustrating that in this universe, the ones we start with the Fantastic Four in, because we know they're trapped out of time, but are they also trapped out of space, have the Silver Surfer of their universe, be Shalabal, who is the wife of Norenrad, who is introduced in the same issue. Silver Surfer number one. Norrin Rad is the OG Silver Surfer in the sense of pop culture.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And yes, he is the Silver Surfer, but Cholabal is just as old of a character. She just doesn't have as many appearances, isn't as well known, but to deny the impact of the Silver Surfer is very tricky because Silver Surfer isn't as big of a character as a Reed Richards. He's not as big as Fantastic Four.
Starting point is 00:06:20 He is a very big character, but I do think there is a little bit more flexibility of having, in a universe, a Shalabal Silver Surfer and then when they come to our universe then have it be Norrin Rad and then it's a commentary on like oh we must be somewhere else because in our universe my it's blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:06:36 so I don't think Shala Ball is going to be the 1610 616 or depending on 199999 Silver Surfer I think it's going to be this new universe we meet with the Fantastic Four and then when we come to our 1999999 universe that is going to be the Noran Rad everyone knows and loves
Starting point is 00:06:54 My only concern, to be honest, isn't with a female silver surfer, isn't with a female herald of Galactus, because that's what she is. In the comic, Shalabal is a herald of Galactus. She actually isn't the Silver Surfer, and I can't tell if it's misreporting. How many times has an article been like, this person has been cast as this,
Starting point is 00:07:09 and they were kind of right? She could, at the end of the day, just be a herald of Galactus. At the end of the day, she could be the wife of Norrin Rad, as we know and see. So I'm with Greg on just waiting and finding out. But what I'm worried about is just Julia Garner, not getting enough screen time.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Because if she's just like a wife of Norrin Rad, or if she's only the multiversal one. I'm like, what a waste of one of the best parts of Ozark. Like, she's so talented. So I don't care if she's the Silver Surfer, because I don't personally think, the things that make me think about Silver Surfer are ethereal, very watchful,
Starting point is 00:07:38 a commentary on humanity, this alien presence that looks on. I've always thought of Keanu Reeves because the way he philosophizes about humanity. It was ironic they're paired because he's been my Silver Surfer since the 90s. But the way the Silver Surfer character is a commentary on us is by being an outside ethereal source that watches over us. And to me, Anya Tilla Joy was that.
Starting point is 00:07:56 That's so weird, because I think about big balls. Big balls. And it's funny, because he's one of the only characters that clearly doesn't have a dick. Yeah, that's true. Like, of all the characters, I know at least he doesn't. He's a eunuch. Very clearly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 So, I mean, at the end of the day, more accurate. If anything, you guys should be mad that they didn't cast a real eunuch. Yeah, come on. Let's be comic accurate. Yeah. Why isn't he silver? Before we cast, we're going to need to see if you have genitalia. Can you go ahead and drop those?
Starting point is 00:08:21 I know there's been some Weinstein issues, but can you go ahead and drop those. So for me, I'm going to wait and see, but there is some actual, there's some reasoning behind this. So, you know, not only is this movie tears out, not only is Marvel trying not to piss everyone off, but we don't know what this person is going to be doing in the movie. That being said, it's very funny to just make a post and see the internet explode. I don't think that's the intention, but it has been entertaining. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Those are all very valid points. Cool. I just don't, I don't know. There's something about Marvel right now where I know myself to know the trajectory that I go on as a fan. I hear news and I go, all right. And then I watch it trailer and I'll go, oh, sweet. And then before I watch the movie, I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to like this. Let's see how this goes now.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah, that two and a half minutes was great. How's the two hours going to go? It tends to be for me on this journey now. And I just hold out going, let's see. I just I want that's all I really care about and I agree she might not get the most succinct amount of screen you know screen time but it's the MCU and you know they cast someone that plan is to keep them circulating for a while and even though I know they've been introducing a lot of characters and not bringing them back I feel like they would have a very different plan when it comes to the Fantastic Four and said Silver Surfer but the question goes to you guys in the chat right now I appreciate that that most of you guys are keeping it level-headed. Obviously, there's some people who just love a good capital W word, very much so. Just tell us in your comments.
Starting point is 00:10:04 What do you guys think? And I know we got some super chats that we've got to get to, but I want to keep us on track, first and foremost, to make sure we are honoring the main thing you guys showed up for, but keep them coming in. We will power through them all with quality, and we don't end the stream until we get through them all. Coy, let's talk about the next bit of news, my friend. What do we got? We're trying a different approach here. John Birdthal, returning as the Punisher.
Starting point is 00:10:26 We got set photos. Oh, my God. You know, if John was here, he would have prepared this. He would have definitely got it here. Guys, leave a like on this stream. I got to find a Punisher photo just to slap it on screen really quick. Entertainment Weekly had good quality ones if that helps. Entertainment Weekly.
Starting point is 00:10:42 But Craig types in variety. Greg hears me, he acknowledges me. There's a good one right here. Look at this one. That's a great one. I'm just saying they had explosives. I mean, we know the photos. It's just very funny.
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's very similar. say it out loud and type other words it's that's how I operate all right well this is this the other main photo great photo damn that's beautiful look at a weird tease it's these are clearly accurate I got to pull it on screen here I got to pull it on tap it's happening okay hold on boy start talking while I pull it up please okay my excitement for daredevil was already astronomically high he's one of our favorite characters of all time I do believe is your favorite show so I think that daredevil might be the best adaptation of Marvel. I think it might be better than...
Starting point is 00:11:27 I think it's up there with Winter Soldier. It's one of the best things we've seen from the world of Marvel Comics. So the expectations are high and I'm glad they've decided to go more of a season four route than starting over with the same cast. But I'm always worried up until certain actors go, no, no, I only come back if the script is good. John Bernthal is one of those actors. John Bernthal is a man with integrity. John Bernthal is a man who loves Frank Castle. John Bernthal is a man of integrity. Dude, I've been very
Starting point is 00:11:53 lucky to run into John Bernthal like three or four times and every time we have any sort of conversation it always ends with this moment of you know when you like read a really good pace of like philosophy and it's like two sentences and you're like I feel really better and like he's one of those guys that
Starting point is 00:12:09 he's so well spoken articulate that I usually try not to talk about Punisher with him because I'm sure he's exhausted by it. I like talking to him about what it means to be an artist that's also hypermasculent. I really love his view on masculinity and that ties into Punisher. So it tends to go that direction, but what I love about
Starting point is 00:12:25 John Bernthal is he doesn't need to come back to this character. He's got so many other things. He's got so many other, like, you know, he loves doing plays, he loves his podcast, he doesn't need this. And so for him to come back, I think the script must have been amazing. And then to top that off, my boys,
Starting point is 00:12:42 Aaron and Justin, who crushed Loki Season 2, are on the property. And again, a shameless name drop. I'm so sorry, but it is relevant. When I did the Tom Hiddleston panel, it was one of the first times he'd talked about season two after rapping season two. Back in MegaCon, I got a full hour with Tom Hiddleston.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And then after the panel, he had a ton of places to be. But during the panel, I mentioned I was friends there and Justin, and we got to, like, talk about them, like, as people. And it was really fun to, like, see his love for them as directors. But as soon as we got off stage, he was like, dude, I'm so excited about. Just doing Daredebel. And it was this really beautiful moment where Tom Hiddleston is such a fan of Loki
Starting point is 00:13:17 and the Marvel Universe. It was really beautiful that he got to talk about it as a fan because he got to be invested in something his friends are doing in a character he cares about with his other friend Charlie Cox and it was such a really beautiful moment to see him be a nerd that wasn't personally invested in it. And so his excitement reminded me like, oh, just because this is your day job doesn't mean it can't still be special.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And I feel like John Bernthal has that with the Punisher. Like his posts about it, the way he gets excited when people bring it up, the way he treats people at cons. John Berthel always has the longest line and he's always there until like 6 a.m. Like, that guy stays. And I just really respect him.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And I don't think he'd come back unless it was the right pieces. So these photos give me a very specific warmth. Well, you know, the thing about John Bernthal is I think we can always be guaranteed that he's going to deliver a fantastic performance, regardless of whatever the material ends up even being. We know he's going to do a great job. Take Punisher Season 2, for example. Not a great season. He's still excellent. I would say the same thing for Charlie Cox and even Vincent Donofrio.
Starting point is 00:14:20 as Kingpin, right? Now, I had the same feeling I had when I saw these. It's weird because there was a few years ago where if I saw these photos that they're coming to the MCU, they're being revived, it would have been an instant rejoicing type of automatic feeling,
Starting point is 00:14:37 right? And like, we were part of the camp that still enjoyed Echo overall. Yeah, overall. Overall still enjoyed it. Had our issues, but overall still enjoyed it. We talked very much in depth about a lot of the criticism stuff. Overall, all swayed a little bit more towards. I liked it. And I'm, but I got to say, it somehow did not
Starting point is 00:14:59 bolster my enthusiasm for Kingpin. Like, it was better than Hawkeye. I was relieved to see him, and I think they're in the right direction. But at this point, I'm like, I don't think they should just be in direction territory. They should have been there by now. They should be in the territory, not going to it. Exactly. And I actually, I feel bad for the original people who were hired, for this show. Oh, can you imagine being cast as an actor? I mean, like, I finally did it. I'm in Marvel.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Not just Marvel. I'm in Daredevil. New show. Yeah, well, to be cast in it, and then they were the writers and they got the overhaul for it, and now they're, they have, they fire people,
Starting point is 00:15:34 they're starting all over. In a lot of ways, it's like, that feel bad for them at the same time, that must mean they really care to get this one right because they're obviously hearing the feedback. I mean, if there's one thing with Disney,
Starting point is 00:15:48 all these reports that keep coming out, who's like, Bob Beiger, what do you think about being called woke? You know, like everything is just in their face. Thank you guys for all the super shots that keep pouring in right now. Promise we are going to get through all of them. We just want to get through the main topics first, but this is great. Thank you. Great.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It gets me excited. People are invested. So right now I'm like, yeah, this, aesthetically and everything, this is cool. I'm excited to see that him and Red are going to be back together sharing the screen again. And I know that it's going to be like well acted. and the blood take the echo trailer it looked like it was going to be like
Starting point is 00:16:24 this is going to be a hard art and then just a set visit like it looks like a hard art like just covered the will it you know and Punisher is a hard art granted this is Daredouble Daredevil is a pretty hard art too
Starting point is 00:16:35 yeah the head slamming in the card door happened in Daredevil not Punisher but remember an Echo the Echo trailer we were like oh shit and that was back that was about it what was in the trailer I think Echo was a bridge between Disney Plus and Netflix and now we're going back to Netflix. I think that was a great gateway if this lands like we hope it does. And if you
Starting point is 00:16:53 haven't seen Aaron Morehead and Justin Benson's other work, they're a dark existential, like their stuff is really weird and out there and on the darker side. So if you're going to do a character like Daredevil, I think that's the move. I don't know. I have a lot of hope because of the people involved. And I think I used to feel that with, you know, phase one, like you see a director attached. And you're like, ooh, this is going to be their thing. I do think they got a lot longer of a leash on Loki than most of the phase four people did. So that gives me hope for them going into this, that they'll actually be able to do their thing on
Starting point is 00:17:24 it, and so will the actors. And it also looks like this is going to be going towards Kingpin as mayor. This is going to be going towards, you know, the registration stuff. This leads to X-Men with the world hates and fears them. Like, there's so much in Daredevil, but he's also his own guy. I think it's going to be contained in the Hell's Kitchen
Starting point is 00:17:40 like we want Spidey to be. So I'm so excited for this. Absolutely. Oh, my God. This has been going so good and I have not been doing any backup recordings, boy. Oh, no. Fail. Well, fail. See how that goes next week with our remote.
Starting point is 00:17:52 This is how it begins. Fail. Anyway, guys. Listen, we do want to be able to go to, what do you guys think, though, about the Punisher thing? Let's ask the question. You excited for Punisher coming back? Leave a comment, too. If we don't see it here, that is, you know, we can see it lives there.
Starting point is 00:18:11 We will get into the, since we have a lot of Super Chats porn in right now, we are going to get in, And I've been loving the comments that you guys are coming in. Overall, pretty fair chat, I've got to say. I'm very reject nation. I think it's a fair chat. Everyone. And people that are, even if they're not excited, they're being articulate, not just saying like buzzwords, which I respect. There are the occasional buzzwords, but it's so, so small.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I'm really impressed, guys. Thank you for giving me faith in the internet. This is a good community. This is a good community right now. I'm enjoying the vibe overall. Even if you, and we just want you to be honest without being punished, unnecessarily punishment. punishing other people you don't need to punish. I love that vibe.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Anyway, let's hop into these supers. We'll catch up here and we'll talk a little bit about our Matrix thoughts as the Matrix 1B. Is it one of your favorites? It is tied for first. Really for me too? It is. It is tied for first.
Starting point is 00:19:02 It depends on my mood. Is it Fight Club? Yeah. Okay. What's your other? Terminator 2. Very similar. We're just such bros.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I love that we like love the modern era of filmmaking, but we're both like 99 and earlier are like our anchors. Yeah. No, the Fight Club and the Matrix are, it depends on my mood, but they're both my, my favorite film. Thank you guys for the really nice comments you guys got here. All right. Let me, let me load the Supers, and I'll check the stream labs in a second. Coy, talk to the chat while Greg fixes everything on the stream, please.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, he's going to fix everything. The Matrix 5, not 4. It's been funny to see how many people were reporting on it is Matrix 4 when Matrix actually had a fourth installment come out last year or the year before. Let's time. But the Matrix is getting another installment. not a lot of details out there except for that it is Drew Goddard which is a great tangent from
Starting point is 00:19:51 Daredevil because Drew Goddard is the reason we have the Daredevil show he is the one that got it going over at Netflix and Drew Goddard is actually the only negative about this besides my fear of the Wichowski's not being involved at all which is what it seems to be is that Drew Goddard was my hope for Spider-Man 4 I really wanted Drew Goddard on Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:20:07 4 he wrote a sinister 6 script in the amazing Spider-Man era the guy has been trying to make a Spider-Man movie since Andrew Garfield was Spider-Man I thought it'd be great to have him take over for John Watts if someone was going to, but it seems like that is not happening because he'll be busy handling my Tide for First Favorite franchise
Starting point is 00:20:24 over with The Matrix. I think that The Matrix 2 and 3, if they were one movie, is a really exceptional thing. I think it kind of has that prequel trilogy thing where I need Tofer Grace to make it one movie. Matrix 4, I have not revisited, and I need to. I think I was too.
Starting point is 00:20:43 There was a Matrix thing called The Matrix Revisited I need to visit the documentary thing is the first documentary about the Matrix. The Animatrix is sensational. I guess we're talking about the Matrix. We're talking about the Matrix. It's happening. I'm trying. But Drew Goddard is really good at making very, very dense material approachable.
Starting point is 00:21:00 I think Drew Goddard is very good at reading pop culture and where we are. And I think the Matrix is those two things in a big way. It's got to be a commentary. It's also got to be very present to the time. And I think that it's exciting to get an idea. And the Matrix is something that can be rebooted. I think it'd be a cool thing to call it. I think they should have called it Matrix.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I think they should have called the fourth one Matrix rebooted. I think they're going to call this one that, though, because it seems so obvious at four. That's true. That's the plot. That's very true. So maybe they will now, because it's a new, new squad. Yeah, you know, I mean, since we are talking about the Matrix, I was going to be loading this. I will say that my initial reaction was like, you shouldn't do this without the Wachowski's.
Starting point is 00:21:35 That was my first reaction was like, I don't know, guys. That actually doesn't sound like a great idea because their voice is so tied to it. However, the world of the Matrix, I was actually reminded of the Animatrix. Oh, in the video game. Which is, you know, they were, the Wachowski's were not, I don't know, they might have helmed like one or two of them. I think they produced all of it and they oversaw some of them. Yeah, but they allowed people to direct and write into the Matrix world and playing
Starting point is 00:22:04 the world and the world is quite expansive. And I'd say the same, like they're involved with the games and everything, but the passion for the Matrix world has clearly left them behind. Yeah, I agree. I mean, only one of them directed the newest. Yeah, and I, look, I know that that movie's like a constant up for debate for a lot of people as to, like, I really don't like that movie. I need to revisit it, because my first instinct wasn't. I saw it.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I saw it the first time, and I, I loved it. I really didn't like it. And then the second time. It is funny how quickly it's happening, though, because that whole movie is about the studio ripping it out of their hands and making their own. Now it's happening. So it is becoming the, it is cyclical. It is becoming, it's like the movie telegraphed the trajectory of what would happen with the Matrix franchise. I just put together, like, within three years of the movie releasing, they're like, Warner Brothers made us make this movie so that we had to keep our rights to it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And then they're going to make their own three years later. Yeah. Like, it's so fast. I think they should, I agree. I don't think they should bring back Neo in there, even though I feel like he's the big appeal. I feel like one thing that they can, that Drew Coddard can do to at least save his ass in some way. is new characters is good action because yeah you have to i think one thing we can all agree on for the most of us matrix resurrections did not have great action and that's the thing about the matrix
Starting point is 00:23:27 you got to be at all you got to be philosophical you got to be uh you know you got to talk about like religion you also have to reinvent the wheel every time you got to do impossible you got to be like cool and sleek and freaky like you got to be badass at the same time you have a great action, great visual effects. And prophetic. Good luck. You have to be all these things at once. And I think Drew Goddard, he doesn't strike me as a guy who would just be aesthetically chosen. If anything, I feel like he'd bring great characters alive. I love that. Bringing Will Smith in. That is so good. If you guys don't know, Will Smith turned down the role of Neo. He was the first choice. It was supposed to be Will Smith and he didn't get the script and turn it down and
Starting point is 00:24:07 that's one of his biggest regrets. I would love if the Matrix reboots with a new one and it's Will Smith as a way of commentary on second chances. Absolutely. That's fun. But I'm going to, again, that's one I'm going to hold out hope for. I don't believe that it has to just be the Wachowski's to do it. I do think that
Starting point is 00:24:23 other people, it's a big world they've created. Let them play in the sandbox and the Wichasas can do it before. Daily. I think about the Matrix. Daily. I love that movie. It's one of those movies that I honestly, every time there's anything that's just left to center, I think of the Matrix. Like, it's so embedded in
Starting point is 00:24:37 my mind in a way that I think a lot of people like have, I think religion is something that lives with people that are religious and have faith that like if something happens they're like they fill in the blank with like whatever their faith is like I don't know terminology but like whatever their blank is matrix is that for me like I literally have an undercurrent of belief system around this really cool concept I'm not saying like I think the movie is like my doctrine but I do think the concepts and it resonate with me to that level that I think of it that often so I really am hopeful for a new version and I'm hoping it feels the same
Starting point is 00:25:09 and exciting and I just hope it's kinky. Yeah, I hope it's kinky. It's got to be kinky. I hope it can bring us something that gets us really invest in the characters. Because as much as I actually, I love Matrix Reloaded a lot. I really do. I like 80% of Matrix. I love that movie.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But the first Matrix was the only one. I think that actually had really strong, strong characters. Oh, yeah. I rooted for them. And so I think that's what Drew Gardner can get down is that. But anyway, guys, that's the main topics for today. Let's see what you guys all got in store here. Again, I've been loving what's going on in the chat right now.
Starting point is 00:25:43 You guys are being so positive, and I appreciate just how fair I feel like most people are actually being right now in the chat. It really means a lot. Anyhow, let's hop and do this super chat, shall we? Let's do it. We have it right here on screen. Robert Pressure, thank you so much for being our first super chat of the day, my friend. It means a lot to have your support. I can't stand the quote-unquote MCU comments.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Shala Ball isn't a new character. It doesn't take more than a two-minute Google search. Look that up. Ain't that the truth. Yeah, but they didn't really announce, the headline wasn't really Shala Ball. It was female server. So that's what we did.
Starting point is 00:26:24 And I also don't know. People are typing in. Right. Yeah, and we don't know. Like, even the Deadline article says Shala Ball version of Silver Surfer. But we don't know that for sure yet, right? Until they say it on stage or an official press release.
Starting point is 00:26:36 That's what's so tricky is. We also got like, what was it last week? Teen Titans movie was confirmed by something. people but James Gunn hasn't confirmed it so I think it's confirmed but I don't know like it's really interesting this this era of if you type it and press send and then later on apologize
Starting point is 00:26:50 like you want the clicks so she might just be Shalabal it might not be a silver server if she is a silver surfer there's a lot of things they can do but I do agree that the the knee jerk reaction to MCHU is disappointing definitely Star Lord thank you for being our numero dose for the day
Starting point is 00:27:06 appreciate the super chat my friend Koi why don't you read it Fun first question. Who wins in a fight between Marvel's Armadillo or Rhino in a cage fight? I'm personally going to give it to Rhino. I think Armadillo overall
Starting point is 00:27:20 has a little bit more of a very pun intended, softer underbelly. I think Armadillo has a little bit more compassion for who he's fighting. Rhino has compassion for his family. Rino is compassion for kids. One of my favorite stories
Starting point is 00:27:32 ever with the Rhino is the tangled web of Spider-Man. I think it's issues 13 and 14. It's later into the run, but it's a two-issue rhino story. that is so beautiful and so heartwarming and it really shows what he's compassionate but I don't think he's compassionate for the people he's fighting
Starting point is 00:27:45 whereas Armadillo eventually becomes the babysitter for Jessica Drew, Spider Woman's children and they actually fall in love and Armadillo becomes like an actual love interest and he reforms and he becomes a good guy. Rhino has become a good guy from time and time again but he always falls back into a life of crime. I believe Armadillo can reform. I don't think Rhino
Starting point is 00:28:02 can all the way, so I'm giving it to Rhino out of bloodlust. Okay. Yep. I don't know if you thought he was going to get that thoughtful of an answer, but he got it. Moving on, that's great, man. It's great stuff, great stuff. What do you think, Greg? About Rhino and Arbidolo?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Obviously, you know, Shala Ball is going to be in the MTCU guys. Yeah, that's what it's about. Robert Prusser. Back in here again. Thank you so much. Rhino hands down is what Aisha says. Someone went out in the chat. He is saying, also, if they really wanted to,
Starting point is 00:28:30 they could have used Noren's origin for Shela, or Shala, a person saves their loved one and planet by becoming Galactus's Harold. Well, you wrote that in the past tense. It could still be. Expand. So basically, Norrin Rad is a character who is madly in love. It's a love story. He's madly in love with his wife, Shalabal.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And the planet that Galactus is overtaking and consuming, because Galactus, the Vardero of Worlds, consumes planets for sustenance. He's always eaten planets. And Fantastic Four are the first people, in continuity. We found out later that other people have stopped him. But Fantastic Four are able to stop him from meeting Earth. But Silver Surfer is amongst that planet. and he makes a deal with Galactus that,
Starting point is 00:29:10 hey, I will go out and find you planets to eat if you don't eat mine. I will become your herald. So he sacrifices his own life to also end others. And that's what's tricky about the character is he tries to find uninhabited planets, but every so often, Galactus is too hungry, and he has to do the unthinkable.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So it's a really beautiful character with conflict and, like, greater good and all those things, but it's a sacrifice because he's trapped in space for all time to save his wife. So they could totally do that with Chalabal, and make it her sacrifice for him. but we don't know what the story's going to be. So it's funny, like, also, if they really wanted it,
Starting point is 00:29:41 they could have used, they could still. We don't know what the story is, and the reporting that people have been doing is, frankly, infantile. Like, it's so silly how people have written a movie in their heads that hasn't filmed yet. We need the clicks. Clicks!
Starting point is 00:29:53 Duane Johnson specifically said he's not going to endorse Biden. He's not because he needs the clicks. That's what it's said. He's like, I don't believe in, yeah. And he had a whole thing about, like, splitting people. That's not what he said, yeah, he didn't. Yeah, he actually more thoughtful.
Starting point is 00:30:07 The clicks. The clicks. Anyway. Bruce Campbell told me that once. He doesn't talk about politics because it's automatically alienating half of his audience. And in the rock statement, I was like, but then you're not standing for anything. Especially after you stood for something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:23 It's kind of regressive. Like, I believe. He's like, I have too big of a platform to stand for something. I love that way. I mean, you already opened that door, man. Yeah. Mayank Ranovari. Hey, Greg and Coy.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So great to see you. Given Deb Patel's great performance in Monkey Man. Oh, this is a really great question. This is really great question. I like this. What MCU and or DCU character would he be best suited for? Oh, my God. I think, personally, he would be a fantastic, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Boy, what do you got? I thought you might actually have one. Deppatelle has been my Reed Richards for. seven or eight years. So Petra Peskel being cast was a bummer for me because I really liked Dev Patel there. But if he's not going to play him,
Starting point is 00:31:16 I hadn't really had an alt and so many people already cast. The DCU was forming, so I'm going to go over there. Should be Rosal Ghoul. He'd be a good Mr. Miracle. He's got like a really sensitive snark to him where he's like, you can like feel for him and you can see like depression being something that he's
Starting point is 00:31:36 going through, but also you don't feel like it's something that is immature. Sometimes depression is played for laughs or for like making a character seem weak. And I think with Mr. Miracle, it's a strength of him overcoming it and trying to persevere through suicide.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And I think Debt Patel has that darkness and sensitivity but intelligence in him that he could portray someone like Mr. Miracle that has to overcome a darkness. I don't know. I kind of think he would be a great warmth. I'd take it, man. I'd think you'd be a wonderful morph.
Starting point is 00:32:08 He's fun. It's funny. I could see him as morph. Or forge. I could see him. I mean, he's smart. I want a hyper-intelligent character from, which is why I always thought, Reed.
Starting point is 00:32:20 DeFitelle's a living tribunal's great. I mean, I haven't seen Monkey Men. He's badass in it. He's so badass, dude. He's, like, immediately a top-action star and a top-action director of one movie. It's like, imagine if Keanu Reeves directed John Wick. This thing is insane.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I just kept going to, like, the bat-burst, and I was going, No, that's boring. Oh, like a John Constantine is not a bad pick. Oh, that's fun. And he's British. That wouldn't be a bad pick at all, man. Oh, night crawler's a great pick, too. Nightcrawler's a great pick, but I don't want to, like, douse him in makeup.
Starting point is 00:32:49 True. But I kind of feel like they do that with a lot of characters, actors of colors. They often, like, give him the heavy makeup role. I'm always like, whenever he was, like, casting people of color in the Fantastic Ford, it was always just thing. I was like, so. Black guys are the thing. Yeah, like, so you want to have a lot of white people and, like, put one guy in makeup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Deppette. is a great night crawler because he's supposed to be like a handsome fuzzy swashbubbler. That's the erotic part. He would be an excellent nightcrawler. His hair is so night crawlery. Do it. Make it happen. Night crawler, because my night crawler has been Timothy Shalamee because he's got like that really pointy face in the hair and he's got like that charm.
Starting point is 00:33:23 But you don't want to put that beautiful white skin and makeup. I want to blue that beautiful face. You heard me. YouTube sensors. But I think, I didn't even meet it at first. I didn't even meet it at first, and then the words came out of my mouth and I was like, too late.
Starting point is 00:33:38 But I think that, I think that Nightcrawler would be good. I think Constantine would be a little bit better because I'd love to see that. But I also think, who was my first one? Fantastic for, that's what you first made.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Oh, yeah, read. Yeah, yeah, but that's not going to happen. They said morph. Then you said more. It doesn't matter. Oh, I said someone with action. John Wick, I had an action pick. Coyner not bringing out the memory.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Guys, we're doing great. Let's go to the next one. the memory and that's not coming down it's going going well that was great guys you guys really helped us out yeah thank you chat really came in handy there solid solid oh yeah we totally saw that um our pick is night crawling our pick is everything you guys are doing olivia hamlin coy you want to read that my friend uh good afternoon love julia garner in ozark i think a lot of people will turn around when they see your performance love you guys keep up the awesome work thank you very very much i think no matter what she's going to be
Starting point is 00:34:32 a powerhouse man she's so talented I'm just excited for more people to discover her. I think at this point the Marvel Universe is very good at getting people going from, you know, small roles or even something as big as OARC to household names. Like, I don't know if she's a household name yet because I don't think everyone watch those arc, and I think Marvel will get her there. So I'm excited for her career because of Marvel. You know, though, I find often that so much of the time when they do get an actor who's like, oh, man, I love them in this TV show. and then they put them in the movies it never quite
Starting point is 00:35:08 I feel like they never quite utilized like yeah and maybe it's different mediums man different mediums yeah you get more time with them so it makes sense but like part of me is going oh I should check out Ozark and then I go
Starting point is 00:35:20 is it really going to like the movie Ozark is exceptional but there's so many shows I mean in terms of translating the powerhouse of whatever they say about Julia Garmer into live action as Silver Surfer I just, I don't want to do that to myself. I'd rather just take it on it.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I'm just giving myself an excuse to not watch another show. Finish Kirby enthusiasm first. Yeah, there it is. I'm enjoying this season. Yeah, I honestly think her career is going to benefit from it, and I'm excited to see what she does with it. Absolutely. Casal Grace Skull, thank you for first time being in the live chat.
Starting point is 00:35:51 That's what I'm talking about. Myank, Iranavari. Is the recent win by Bob Eiger over Nelson Peltz going to affect Disney and particularly Marvel in a significant way going forward? Coy, I don't know what they're talking about. Nelson Peltz is a dude who, this is going to cause the... On the dude playing the dude
Starting point is 00:36:09 disguise does nothing to. Ironically, that quote is kind of what he's talking about. He came out and said like, do we really need a movie like Black Panther where it's all black leads and does Miss Marvel really have to eyeball female leads? And he was trying to take a controlling seat in the board at Disney and he said that Kevin Feige
Starting point is 00:36:25 wasn't not doing his job, but it should at least be looked at how he's doing his job. Like he said a bunch of stuff that was like we don't need black leads, females, and Kevin Faggy, what are you doing? So everyone that likes to yell woke was like, this guy, hire this guy, we want more whites. So I think it's probably overall in the great scheme of cinema, good to not have a bigot in a position of power. I don't know the man. I just, I've only read a couple quotes.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And the couple quotes I read, I was like, okay, it's not like there aren't white people in, in, roles and it's not like there aren't men in roles like black panther is a very specific unifying film for people that don't get to see themselves on screen and and unfortunately that's still going to be a commentary and and the marvels i don't love that i didn't like it because it's i want better for women and it sucks to have him have ammunition because that movie not doing well that allows bigots to have some traction so uh i think it's a net positive that he is not in a position of power when he's saying like, we don't need all these representations. But I do
Starting point is 00:37:33 think the people that are yelling like the DEI thing I learned on this show. What is that? What is DEI? Diversity, equality, and inclusion, I think it is. And it's like the buzzword of the day of like casting people that aren't white is a bad thing because they're only getting cast because they're not white.
Starting point is 00:37:49 It's like the rhetoric of like white people. The thing that I'm struggling with is like I think it's the pie metaphor of, I think whites are used to getting 80% of the pie and now they're getting 50% of the pie and instead of looking at the 50% they're getting they're going like we lost 30% it feels like lost yeah and so people aren't it's so fresh and so new there hasn't been enough time like i struggled um a little while ago with uh you know i kept losing work because it didn't make sense to put me in certain positions on camera because there have been so many white people on camera and i kept actively losing work and it was hard but i
Starting point is 00:38:25 kept thinking like yeah but this is more important that someone else feels seen because i don't feel unseen and and but i had to zoom out i had to get out of my own shit and go like hey you're personally not making money and you're personally struggling but as the world spins this is helping hundreds of thousands of people so your shit doesn't matter and i don't think the average person that's been in a position of comfort or uh privilege has ever zoomed out and enough to go, what are those hundreds of thousands of people thinking, but why is it not about me? So I think DEI and the white shit is just people not zooming out of their lives enough, not
Starting point is 00:39:06 traveling enough, not talking to communities enough, not having conversations with people that don't look like them enough. And yeah, you're going to feel that 30% of the pie go away. And yeah, you're going to notice less jobs. But if you look at how everyone else has lived for a long time, you'll realize that you're just complaining about things that weren't entitled to. you to begin with, and that shouldn't have been the way. So go fuck
Starting point is 00:39:29 yourself. Interesting. So, as a white man, you found a way to help elevate other people who are not white by stepping out of the way, so you could say you saved. You helped. Was I some sort of savior?
Starting point is 00:39:47 As the French say, the savior. I feel like that's... You know, no, this is about me. Don't get me wrong, right? What I'm doing is I'm waiting five years to write my memoir and I say how I helped everyone else, dot, dot, dot. Very interesting. Yeah, and then I'll make sure there's a go fund me as well because at that point, no, I just, I think it's, I think it's really important to have people in positions of power that don't think about themselves first. And I think that last year was maybe the hardest year for people in the middle class to feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:40:25 it is millennials are not buying houses and shit so it's really hard when you're feeling the weight of the world to not lash out and I think it's really hard for people that grew up thinking they were going to live comfortably after a certain point then seeing jobs go away on top of that there's a lot of pressure and pressure causes anger but also
Starting point is 00:40:41 can cause diamonds but I think at the end of the day everyone getting mad at people that are not in positions of power is the worst move like there was 141 new billionaires minted last year new ones while everyone else is suffering Forbes put out their list last week and there's 141 new billionaires with a B.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Billionaires shouldn't exist at all. That means their great grandkids don't have to work. And there are people now that can't buy a house. Wait, we might. I mean, I'm working on a great right around the corner. I'm trying to get there. I'm trying to be a 100,000 air. I mean, until I'm a billionaire, I'm dead on the inside.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Until then, what have I done with my life? Until my account says B and I have servants. Hi, Mom. Your mom's in the chat. Coy, we must move on, as important as it is. Yeah, as White Savior John Wick, I say we move on. White Savior John Wick. As the decider of things, as the Whiteman, let's move along.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Normac is saying, first of all, great to see you both on yet another live stream, loving the channel and content and community. Thank you. We are loving all of those in that exact order to. My question is, do you think Toby Spider-Man will appear in Deadpool 3, also Wolverine versus Batman? How caught up are you? on Invincible Season 2. I'm at the gap.
Starting point is 00:41:57 All right, I'll keep you shut. I haven't watched the new season. Like the, yeah. It's really good. I'm excited. Do I think Toby Spider-Man appeared, Dead Bull 3? No. I don't think he'll appear in that one.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I think this one is going to keep it more Fox Bay. It wasn't Fox, right? It was always Sony. Sony's Spider-Man. Deadpool Fox, Sony, Spider-Man. I think they're going to keep this one more Fox-based and I think having Toby's Spider-Man in there
Starting point is 00:42:27 in some ways will just take away further from all the things they would probably want to shine a light on a little bit more and kind of undermine Secret Wars. I do think that he will ultimately appear in Secret Wars though. Yeah, yeah. Toby McGuire and I do find it funny it is really
Starting point is 00:42:44 strange how the conversation around Toby's Spider-Man 4 is becoming remarkably prevalent right now. Sam Ramey he's talking about it. Apparently, Tom McGuire was asked about it. I thought it was just something that was like a little weird rumor.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It is, it is just still a rumor. Sam Ray was like, no one was talking about it. But I'm like, damn, but they're talking about it. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:05 I never thought we'd get it, but I think it's more likely now than ever. And they're still, yeah, I think they're like gait, I think now more than ever, there's this amount of put something out there on social media, gauge interest via that way.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah. I think now studios are doing that more than before of, What's the response? All right. Do we lean into it? All right. The audience wants to give us money? Yeah, because the studios do pay attention to all these things.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I think the more we've been involved in this line of work and the more you talk to publicists or PR teams on any front, any marketing team, you do discover like, oh, they all really pay attention to the negatives and the positive. They pay attention to all camps of the internet on the social media rhetoric. Third, shameless name drop of the day. every time like when the Kevin Feigy conversation, I love how much he listens. Like every time I've
Starting point is 00:43:56 talked to Kevin Feagy, he's actively been like what did you think of blank? As the fan side, what do you think of blank? As someone informed by the comics, and then when we talked to him at Spider-Man, he wanted to know what we were thinking of the current stuff and was receiving that. Like, he wants that data to make decisions. He's
Starting point is 00:44:12 not a suit that's like, oh, this doesn't matter. And I think that him being in that position of power is really important to have that reception. Like, I don't think the tone that we generally strike is that of a critical drinker perhaps, right? And I remember a while ago
Starting point is 00:44:28 there was this thing that came out that was saying I forget where it was from but, oh, you know, this thing failed because of critical drinker's opinion. I'm like, I wouldn't say that. I think what happens is... Does he have enough impact? Who is this person? Is it a YouTube person? He's kind of like in that
Starting point is 00:44:44 camp of like... Oh, okay. But I think he's actually he could be, there's somebody that's saying that we can be very well, it can be very well spoken. Okay. And he's a writer too and stuff like that. So he's not just like some dude yelling. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:44:57 At the end of the day, though, he does the audience that he primarily attracts is the voice that he primarily is like, I can be here and tell you guys like, yeah, I think like critical drinker and nerderotic, they have videos where I'm like, this is really well edited. It's really well constructed, really well put together. The community they primarily attract, though, at the end of the day is one that falls into the we got to like be pissed off and rage and stuff and even if they're being positive about something there's usually something that they have to do to appeal yeah and and uh that is what this the point when that report came out i forget where it was from but what studios i've noticed look at
Starting point is 00:45:38 is when they're looking at the influencers that's how they're gauging community so they can might come to us or look at like the camp like us or like three C films or heavy spoilers like more in our line of, our rhetoric, our community, and go, like, how are they responding based off of them? Because the default of anger isn't something you want to have, is like, how do we judge that if you're always mad? Because you can't say that, like, critical drinker's the one who has informed everyone of how to feel.
Starting point is 00:46:04 He is the voice of those people. Of those people that are already feeling away. Yeah, exactly. And so that is how they, like, use influencers to gauge. Yeah. Because they can't read every comment. They can't read every tweet. So they have to, like, see you who wears,
Starting point is 00:46:18 was the voice gravitational pull coming from, you know what I mean? Because I think even the most positive people had negative things to say about multiverse, Thor and the Marvels, and I think that shows, like, even the positive puppets were like, oh, yeah. Because we can be negative about something
Starting point is 00:46:32 sometimes, too, obviously, because at the end of the day we've got to be honest. But, you know, I'm glad that even in this chat, believe me, it'd be easier to clicks, for sure. Oh, my God, the money I could make. Man, we can... If I...
Starting point is 00:46:47 We just fed the easy emotion to feed, which is the emotion human beings are so prone to subconsciously, which is... The money I can make as a white guy, yellow. Like, if, and like Fox News, it's easy for a reason. The Fox News crowd has such inarticulate fucks working for them. It'd be so easy to be like, I'm a well-spoken white. The money I can make off hate. And so it's so embarrassing when it's just that easy to fall into. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:09 We work for your money, people. What are you good though? Jeff Carroll. For Greg. I know you had an awful. experience with Percy Jackson Sea of Monsters but I hope you and Tara
Starting point is 00:47:23 give the show a chance and can enjoy it's flawed but light years better than the movies. All love. They did announce season two so of course I think closer to season two
Starting point is 00:47:31 leading up to it when that is a little bit more in the zeit heist again and relevant. We will then pick it back up and I want to that way by the time we're done with the season one finale
Starting point is 00:47:42 that's what we did with Jack not Jack Richard, we did it with some show Witcher I figure which one but it'll pan down well it's a good thing got to be in the middle ground because right now we're just kind of get lost in the echo chamber of other things that are more prevalent and require our time right now X-Men X-Men got fallout coming out you got follow coming out yeah thank you
Starting point is 00:48:01 Jeff appreciate your interest and thank you to all who have been showing terror a lot of love with her return thank you all have been supporting all the rejects who are here it's not just coy John and myself there are many are rejects squad squad squad squad squad Danny my god damn right he's remember my joker shoes they're dope he made those oh they're Great, man. Hope your Joker shoes are still rocking. Quality work. They are.
Starting point is 00:48:20 They're amazing. I wear them oftentimes whenever I want to, you know, get some attention. Notice my feet. Thank you, man. They're awesome. Hope your business is going well. Jeff Carroll, back at it. For Koi.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Let me ask you, you talk. Okay. Good. I can take a breather. Yeah. If I have to speak more than 30 consecutive seconds, I am, I am. Cardio, Greg. Cardio.
Starting point is 00:48:43 For Koi, do you think we should, we see Norn Rad and Flash or simultaneously with Shalabal or just Shalabal. What will the Shalabal story be, do you think? Don't the internet get you down. Hashtag Koi Ponder bust. First of all, thank you. I personally think it's going to be a multiversal thing where Shalabal is with Norenrad in the universe we meet the Fantastic Four and she becomes the Silver Surfer if the
Starting point is 00:49:12 Silver Surfer rumor element is true. And that's how they realize they're not. their universe anymore because Norrin Rad is our silver surfer in the universe we're used to in the MCU. But I think no matter what, Shalabal is going to represent a powerful herald of Galactus, whether it's going to be different Shala Balls or just one, I think they're going to do the Noran Rad story. I do think it's, I honestly do think it's Lekeith.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I think he accidentally messed up, and I don't know if that's going to lose him the job, but it's very funny. Did you hear about that? Lekeith Stanfield, there was one of the posts announcing that Julia Garter, He on Instagram was like, Oh, he said, I thought that was me. No, no, he said, I thought that was me. I think he got told he was cast
Starting point is 00:49:53 and then thought he lost the job. So I think he accidentally outed himself as Silver Surfer Norrin Rad. I think Lakeith Stamfield was Norrin Rad. Oh, that's cool. I totally misread that. Yeah, I think he was like, oh, I thought this was me. Not I went out for, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:09 I think he's Norn Rad. And I think that's rad. I'm very excited about it. So I think we're going to have them as a couple. I think that if my multiversal thing, that's how it's going to go. If it's just one universe, I think it's just going to be her as a herald. I think no matter what, it's going to be a beautiful little love story between the two of them. And the internet would get you down?
Starting point is 00:50:27 No, man. I've been able to separate from the internet in a very different way. The last, like, three weeks, that's been a big part of my focus. Greg and I had a big talk about three weeks ago about, like, why we love doing this. And I'm really focusing on the reason behind this as opposed to just doing it. And so, like, I pretty much. Which is make more money. That's what it came down to.
Starting point is 00:50:48 That's what it takes. How do we become one percent? I want a billion dollars off other people's art. No, I think it's important to be present on the internet in our jobs, but I think I was making the internet my life, not my life, on the internet. It was very unhealthy. So, like, Twitter, I've got just set to the people I'm following. I'll even go to the For You section, and I will often post something that I strongly believe,
Starting point is 00:51:12 and then I'll mute it, and I'll go, let's see how this goes. And then I'll fortify, and then for like half an hour, I'll just scroll through and find new plebeble to block. So like recently with the Silver Surfer thing, if Julia Garner happens to be Silver Surfer and is a female, and that's our Silver Surfer, I have no problem with that. I shared that thought, but I knew it would kick the beehive of people that didn't share that thought.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And it's just an efficient way to get rid of those people for my life. Kick the beehive. That's the name of my coming of age, adolescent story that is now available at every library. Is it the star, Jerry O'Connell? Is that the one who died with the bees? No, Macaulay Culkin. Which one of those beautiful...
Starting point is 00:51:47 I don't know, but you're ruining something. Sorry. Sorry, someone. You're definitely spoiling something. The end of a movie. I can't remember well. I keep turning when. It's all right here. Dead shot. Right. Yeah. Dead shot. What's up? Back in the chat. Thank you so much, my friend.
Starting point is 00:52:05 They did react to Sulton. It's hilarious. To everyone who has been contributing in the super chats. I've got to check the streamlapse. Please remind me to check the stream lives, everyone. Seems like Fantastic Four World, the 60s, is very futuristic. Probably retro sci-fi. Yeah, I love that world.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Honestly, wish it was normal 60s. Yeah, racism and all. And then when they are sent to the MCU, it's a read. Feeling like he's not the smartest person in the world. Sometimes we, like, idealize the 50s and 60s. Oh, we're so, dude. There's some terrible things that were going to affect that. Dude, it's so funny that people are idolizing the pandemic lockdown now.
Starting point is 00:52:42 This Mexican guy shouldn't have a white wife. Yeah. If they were back to 60, they'd be like saying a lot of rematchy stuff to Pedro Pascal. Like, this name is Pedro Pascal. I think it's hilarious. We're idolizing 2020 on TikTok and stuff because it's like, guys, we were all miserable and dying. And it's so funny how people are like, the bygone era of four years ago sure was great. And we look at the 50s and 60s like with these hats.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And it's so funny that if the 60s was what we did, like actually as a historical, thing. That movie wouldn't be as fun and free-spirited as the Fantastic Four needs to be. I think making it retrofuturistic is very smart. I think making it an idyllic world like we perceive the 60s is better. If you read a Fantastic Four comic, it's very, you know, beautiful, bright sunshine. There's obviously monsters and stuff, but the 60s comics were very like, Mary Jane spoke like a crazy person. Like, there's a lot of the lingo and the craziness of the time that is idealizing it. I think it's smart to do retrofuturism personally, and I think it's going to make for a really lush world. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Absolutely. I think it's going to be, I think that's a great way to entice to put it in the 60s. And it helps separate too. Yeah. You're like, it makes it less confusing on the timeline and stuff and multiversal shenanigans and whatever. Assists cool. At one point, I had a goofy idea for a Punisher team of a movie with all the previous actors. However, I do really want to see Kill Crew, the post-war of the realms tie-in, get adapted to the MCU. Oh, Ray Stevenson was a punisher. That's right.
Starting point is 00:54:15 It was Dolph Lundra and Ray Stevenson. Tom Jane. Tom Jane and John Berger. There's a lot of punishers. Yeah, and great. They're all just very different, which is cool. That's a good multiversal look at because they're all so different
Starting point is 00:54:26 with the same archetypal character. Yeah. I would love to see a Kill Crew. Worth the Realter Realms is a really cool event title in the X-Men. I highly recommend, not me, X-Men, sorry, in the MCU. Highly recommend you check it out. It's Thor-centric, but all of the characters
Starting point is 00:54:39 really get some fun. there's a really fun Spider-Man subplot that I love happening over there. Tom Taylor, I believe, was writing over there. But, yeah, War the Realms is great. Kill Crew is really fun. I don't know if we'll ever get that Norse, especially if it looks like they're going to be
Starting point is 00:54:53 kind of leaving the Thor stuff after Thor 4, but I love that you read that, and everyone check out Warther Realms. That's great. Thanks to SIFs. Appreciate the Super Chat, my friend. Jeff Carroll, this is for both of us. Coy responder on Insta,
Starting point is 00:55:08 but I'm so happy for the Teen Time. Titans movie, anime show comics starting with Jeff Johns 2003. HBO show they've always been in my life and they're the team I love most. I thought the Teen Titans
Starting point is 00:55:24 movie, you were talking about that earlier. That is not confirmed. It's heavily speculated. Everyone reported on it like it was done. We don't need more DCU announcement. That's what I'm like, I don't think James Gunn has made a statement on it and the only thing I've seen him do to acknowledge
Starting point is 00:55:40 it was I think someone said hey can you confirm that the Teen Titans is a rumor and he liked it and I think that's as close to we've had him acknowledging it so I don't think until the person running DCU said is good and real then I don't believe it
Starting point is 00:55:56 so yeah I personally think we wait and see I hope it's true but I definitely have a little bit more like oh no he hasn't mentioned it it's been like two weeks and he's been active on socials I know he's filming but he's still James Gunn so he's multitasking I would love a Teen Titans movie but I also want to make sure the things they have announced to come out and get settled first.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I think it I think kind of knowing too much in advance when you're trying to build a his personal page is coy genre. Oh yeah, my name. If you type my name on YouTube, my page is, uh, and I'm building it up. Very excited. So, uh, the, what were saying? Teen Titans. Yeah, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:56:35 The announced properties, whether or not this is confirmed. I think sometimes, especially when you're building a new universe. you don't want to, I feel like as an audience, you kind of don't want to know too much in advance of what's even going to be coming out. I wish we knew less about more. Because you don't want to start putting it together or trying to put it together. And then you're setting like expectations for yourself and oftentimes high expectations leads to disappointment. And a lot of times that is something that we have thrust it on to ourselves that they haven't even done. So I feel like that's why James Gunn's pretty intense on it.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Like honestly, I get like announcing all that shit at front of. front was the move that he had to they probably felt he had to do to show like we got an actual plan here but we don't need more announcements it's a little much and we need some surprises and he's just trying to make one movie right now and i can't imagine the headache it is to like i'm making superman but but i'm going on twitter god damn it's rumors get squashed what people are saying online it's pissing me off uh someone said has james gun hired anyone but himself uh yeah uh james mangled for Swamp Thing, Andy Mooshieti for Batman, and recently Craig Gillespie for Supergirl.
Starting point is 00:57:41 So he's hiring many people to make many movies. And Mel Gibson for the Backgirl movie. Yeah. No, he's directing the thing solo film. Mel Gibson make a great, incredible. He'll be a good old man, book. Also, my channel stuff, I'm doing, like, really comic-centric stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:02 So if you guys, like, when I go on my comic book rants here, that's kind of what I'm doing as a foundation. over there, I'm going to do, like... You're not here to plug your channel. Just start yelling at your mic. But I want to do more comic stuff, and I'll be doing movie stuff, but I know I do movies a lot here, and I know I do movies a lot at, like, break room. But I really
Starting point is 00:58:18 want, like, people to read comics. So my page is going to have comic stuff. Probably three days of comic stuff, two days of movie stuff, once I'm ramped up. Right now I'm focusing on just one video of comic stuff a week. So please check out my page at Quijhagra. Well, I'll tell you guys, we have found
Starting point is 00:58:33 a slightly tweaked Direction for Koi's Comic Corner. Oh. And we've shot two so far. One, we want to get a couple edited, like a few editists, that way we can confidently release them weekly. Yeah, we want to actually have it be able to. But this latest one is easily the best one.
Starting point is 00:58:54 It might not be the one with the most SEO or the one that they'll get the most clicks, but it wasn't about that. It was about reestablishing the foundation. Coy did excellent. The editors. Wow. Like everyone all around fantastic work
Starting point is 00:59:09 and I can't wait for people to see it. And now it all comes down to a freaking thumb. Everyone's favorite part modifying a whole video of nuance into an image. This is what really matters. It's so articulate in this video. I'll never click on.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Charlie 836, my man. What tone will change do you think could bring back to the MCU? you hype also looking great guys. You're always looking great. And your sexy thumbnail, Charlie. What tone will change? Did you see he said earlier in the chat
Starting point is 00:59:41 that he thinks you're in better shape than I am now, and I agree. I think Greg's actually surpassed me. Someone's committed that to memory. Someone got affected by you. No, no. Someone is going to use that at the gym later. It's not a negative.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's an acknowledgement of, I step my game up, which I like that Greg works out because I don't have a lot of workout friends and I'm around people that don't mind. I guess definitely still buffer for sure. I'm just trying to get my body fat to Greg level while being buff. Look at that vascularity, man.
Starting point is 01:00:07 That's crazy. The tricep definition is awesome. So, yeah, Greg's killing. I haven't been doing cardio as much. So you're actually getting some, like, definition from the muscles having more calories to grow? Well, guys, the key is you've got to have the most boring diet in the world. That's really how you look good. I have not been able to apply what everyone has said about like there's ways to do where you can still enjoy your food and have a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:00:29 No. I'm like, nope, nope, nope. Got a sacrifice. I want to look like this on camera. You got a sacrifice, so you're not bloated all the time on camera. And I've been eating food that I enjoy, so I look a little softer. But Greg working out gives me, because I'm around a lot of soft boys, so I've got to get back. Oh, finally seducing your mom, it's working.
Starting point is 01:00:47 The tonal change that I think they should bring back to the MCU hype. Dad? I feel like, it's going to be a little of a controversial opinion. Oh. I think the best voice for that. the MCU has been James Gunn because he knows how to strike
Starting point is 01:01:09 the balance perfectly in my opinion between what MCU tries to do that often they fail at with not often I would say sometimes I'm talking about impact more so than anything else I'm talking more so impact sometimes
Starting point is 01:01:25 oh there's too much comedy sometimes people say about James Gunn I don't agree this isn't they say too much comedy but I think James Gunn knows how to be the perfect amalgamation of action he tends to bring in amazing action the suicide squad to me is my favorite of his comic movies more than the other ones action comedy great characters introduction of characters he excels at yeah he knows how to do it all
Starting point is 01:01:48 and so to me I think it's weird when you go online and then everyone just seems like James Gunn just looks like the enemy and I'm going I feel like James Gunn is actually a massive threat to the MCU because he knows how to do all the things well that oftentimes when we criticize MC, I'm like, you know who doesn't really make those mistakes? James Gunn.
Starting point is 01:02:12 You know who often gets great audience score and great critic score, and he's commended for that? James Gunn. You know who often makes money when nobody else is? Yeah, it's good. So I personally feel like studying James Gunn is a great, because he knows how to be really serious, too.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Yeah. And make that impactful. Get sacrificed from the comedy. He knows how to bring that emotional depth and like I love the suicide squad I really I think that movie is and I I've sat it like kind of vanished from the conversation
Starting point is 01:02:40 but it is I do think that is actually my favorite DC you move a DC whatever the last 10 years movie yeah I personally think that's my favorite one and I like it more than the Guardians movie Desmond just said James Gunn gave us volume one when the MC you need to comedy gave us volume three with it
Starting point is 01:02:56 exactly knowing how he reads the room knowing how to feel with your audience as a opposed to trying. So much of what we've been talking about here with all the other rejects and like even when doing Comic Corner is like, all right, we're going to do this again. I want you to come less from here and more from here. And that's why, I mean, I haven't seen the new one, but you said it's the best because
Starting point is 01:03:18 like we stopped what we had been doing and we made it about like why I love talking about this stuff. And I think that's what James Gunn does. Yeah. And so I do think it doesn't really quite answer the question. I'm saying sometimes you've got to study what other people are doing and then how can you kind of learn from that and make it your own and having James Gunn, studying what James Gun does,
Starting point is 01:03:41 I really do think is something that could be laced throughout everyone here. And in brief, my answer would be more street-level stuff. I think that Winter Soldier was street-level, even with the helic carrier crashing at the end, it still felt like something that could happen around us. I think Spider-Man needs to go street-level. I think Dare-Double need. I think there's enough street-level heroes
Starting point is 01:03:58 that the big stuff will feel big again if the small stuff is allowed to be small. If everything's an Avengers level event, nothing's an Avengers level event. And I really think that keeping things contained as well as large will make the universe feel interesting again. Right now, it is a similar color palette.
Starting point is 01:04:15 It is a similar tone, and none of it's feeling unique because it's all one big, big, big, big, in each other. It's one of the reasons I loved Eternals so much, which I know isn't everyone's cup of tea, but it was my cup of tea because it was a crazy huge story,
Starting point is 01:04:27 but the movie felt intimate and the relationships were intimate and the movie felt like I was invested in the people even while things were huge. It was like both street level and Avengers somehow to me. But I honestly think we need to look at the comics and look at what comics are doing well. We need to work on making the Easter eggs not the focus. I think the internet also kind of messed up Marvel
Starting point is 01:04:49 because they do listen to fans. They do listen to what people want. And I think there's a lot of people that are just looking for a video where they can do a yellow circle around a thing and they can point at it and they can talk into a camera and that's not movies. So the movie needs to come first.
Starting point is 01:05:03 It's different between Iron Man and Iron Man 2. Iron Man 1 had Captain America Shield in the background. Iron Man 2 used Captain America Shield to literally hoist up a device in the foreground. That went from being an Easter egg to like, notice me! And I feel like a lot of the MCU has become, we want you to love us! And I don't think that always is a bad thing,
Starting point is 01:05:21 but I do think that fan entitlement is a problem versus fan appreciation. And so I want them to listen, but I don't want them to be run by committee because we can't make movies and we shouldn't pretend we can't. Yeah. They need a balance.
Starting point is 01:05:36 They need a balance. Like Thanos said, you got to wipe out half of the face five of the slated. That's it. Snap it away. Appreciate the conversation. You guys are keeping in the chat. It's really awesome to see.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Appreciate it, guys. And appreciate all the super chats. Again, thank you. This is awesome to see. Nick Alexander. It's been a long time. Are there any other show? Thank you, Nick Alexander.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Are there any other shows or movies from Marvel that were not part of the MCU that you want brought over? What character would you play in the DCU? Any other shows or movies from Marvel that were not part of the MCD you want brought over? I feel like Blade deserves it. Wesley Snipes is Blade. I do, out of the Marvel ones? Yeah, 100%. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:23 not many other choices that haven't been brought over like x-men's a run over x-men's about to happen in a big way yeah um but i goes rider i'd love to see a nick cage cameo i've yeah absolutely just why not who wouldn't right he's the best part uh i i've said for about ten years now i can't wait to see chris evan show up and people be like oh it's cap and then he flame on um i think that's coming i think um i not part of the mcc unist yeah i think everyone will have by like the next five years i think secret wars is going to be everyone else. Yeah, I think everyone's coming to the MCU.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Yeah, and who would I play in the, in the DCU? Ooh, I mean, I'd love playing Booster Gold. I'd have a lot of fun of Booster Gold, especially with my, like, I've become, like, less apathetic towards TikTok and more aggressively anti-Tick-Tac. I think the internet is really important for communication, and I think that I'm against, in a big way, this congressional stuff against TikTok. I think it's really dangerous to get rid of freedom of speech. But I do think the TikTok...
Starting point is 01:07:24 Agree, I respect that. But I think the TikTok, what it's done to our attention spans and what it's done to our media literacy and what it's done for our ability to spread not truth and truth. Like, yes, there's a lot of things that we're learning about horrors
Starting point is 01:07:40 that we wouldn't get otherwise, but there's also a lot of things that are made up and people believe someone's saying it at them. So it's really tricky when we need it for news and things that has been claiming from us. Everything's going away, core.
Starting point is 01:07:51 We also need To have some sense of, like, the TikTokification has caused us to not have really, like, talent doesn't rise up in the same way with just specifically movie stuff. So I think TikTok is very important for the world, but very dangerous for art. Well, we got way more super chats to go through, but I don't want to forget about those who contribute to our stream labs. So we're just going to hop into our stream labs really quick. I love to add to me. You could catch my reaction with Aaron, by the way. I didn't put a bow on that.
Starting point is 01:08:24 The reason But Booster Gold would be good because I would use that as like Booster Gold to be a Ticktoker. Like basically the guy, yeah. So basically I think that Booster Gold being from like now and going to the 80s would be fun. So he's like just an influencer trying to get clicks. So he's like doing super heroic stuff but for attention. So I think that TikTok would be a way to basically like have people understand the concept of the character by making him an influencer. Oh my God. You know, I would love to play Solomon Grundy.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I feel like I could actually get my lines down. And I know it would piss off John. It would be... Because that's John's favorite character. He would be asking for seven. And anything, just to rub it in John's face. Just turn that way right out.
Starting point is 01:09:06 They're like, hey man. Play it's all right. Thank you guys so much. All right. Let's go through this. Ronan Unchained, who was at our WonderCon panel. You know, there are some people who showed up to our WonderCon panel
Starting point is 01:09:20 who only came to WonderCon. just to see our pal. People flew it or drogue? I remember some of your names, Trey, Benjamin, shouts out to Jen for always being
Starting point is 01:09:29 an amazing hero to us. The Gamer MJ, honestly, is that my Will Smith? Did I just find a Will Smith impression? Oh, maybe it just happened. Might have been real time. But not if I try, I'm going to fail.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Oh, no, we missed the Gamer MJ. First stream labs below Ronan. Oh, no, just marking that. Did we? He's right. You're right. Sorry, Ronan. Don't just stop.
Starting point is 01:09:51 caught it i caught it jerk gamer mj thank you thank you gamer mj honestly i guess it's my will spit he has decided i don't know what else he sounds like i really don't care for all the controversy over the casting a silver surfer i'm mainly just excited for the film itself because it released on my birthday this year don't worry it's going to get the way just like the UK release of Deadpool is this year wow is it damn Deadpool's actually coming out. Yeah, Deadpool's in like two months. I don't feel like it's going to be real until we're like in the theater and I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yeah, I'm actually right here. I feel like it's going to be real, not even in the second trailer. I think I need to be like, I might have to finish the movie to know it's real. Yeah. I'm so excited. I've been excited for a movie in a long time. It definitely doesn't feel real. Because we've had one trailer that I haven't seen in a theater yet, which is also weird.
Starting point is 01:10:50 It's crazy how like the gaps. And, like, you think, like, Deadpool movies would just be fucking, like, greenlit, like nobody's business. But they just, there's gaps between them. The merger's crazy. And I also think Ryan Reynolds wants to make sure they're great. Like, I think he really has a lot of control in a way that other creators don't. So it's like, we got to fine-tune this. That's why Bob Minimobil.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah. It works. It's good of marketing. But, yeah, I cannot wait. I can't believe that's this year. I'm so excited. Ronan Unchained. Hi, fellows.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Will you be uploaded your panel from WonderCon? I need to look at the footage. The audio is not the greatest. We did not plan this. One day. We were going to plan a court. There was a whole thing where, like, we had a camera and Mike. And then I misunderstood someone else saying they got some recording.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I didn't realize there was just a phone thing. So I didn't actually set my thing up. And I was like, oh, shit. So kind of dropped the ball. Good panel, though. It's a good panel. Really heartfelt and different. Wish I could show it to y'all.
Starting point is 01:11:41 It's a very different tone that even what's being struck here. It's so different when you get to interact in person, just kind of like the mood we were all in the forehead. It was just like the connection and the heart to heart. and we like to let people just kind of like even chat and participate. We're not just like, one question of that time, don't talk, you know. We are up here, you are down there. Yeah, even though that's what I'm thinking internally, I prefer just to have the optics look and look like we are a community.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Julia Garner is a hell of a talent that shouldn't be dismissed. I beg to disagree. I haven't seen her anything. So nay, she doesn't have a ball sack. John reuniting with Red Worms, my heart. I don't know what that means John Burnthal with Daredevil Red. Got it. Gotcha. Yep. Yep, did not interpret
Starting point is 01:12:26 that at all. I thought you were doing some, like, song from the South. John Reed, that's Ray. I hope to see all its SDC says. I really did not know. I love that that sentence, you just said it and pause, like, I have no idea. It's just like a weird. What is it? We get impede some beers. Maybe SDCC. Big
Starting point is 01:12:46 Maybe. I loved the last time. and I love San Diego Comic Con. Hopefully it works out. I was just happy to see you there. Also, Gamer MJ back at it. I just want to say, thank you guys. I had two bad days this week. Let's make it a third.
Starting point is 01:12:58 And putting on your reactions to X-Men and Bad Batch actually made them better. Look, X-Men's an obvious one, Koi. But Bad Batch is that weird show that we should have just quit a long time ago due to how much of a low, consistent performer it is. Yep, and you're still doing it. But we're just like,
Starting point is 01:13:18 We've made it this far. Gotta commit. It's the final season. We're doing it. X-Men 4 was it? We shot that. And then immediately at 1 in the morning, I'm shooting Bad Batch,
Starting point is 01:13:32 knowing this dozens of views. Probably not going to be worth it review-wise. I walked out, I saw Michael Tesla coming in, 1 a.m. shift change. And it's because of those kind of comments that keep us feeling good and we want to nurture
Starting point is 01:13:48 that side of reject nation more Michael Tesla got all the first questions it was Michael's panel more than ours by far and I was very happy for him Greg we are getting a reaction to Tales of the Empire at MJ Tesla no but we I mean there's shorts
Starting point is 01:14:04 we will be doing the episodes you bet your ass anything to help Michael shine a little bit more yeah and oh my God Chris Whamoff look at this mofo whoa oh god coy we're streaming for another
Starting point is 01:14:18 a few more hours he just bought you some time wow yeah that is i'm going to go ahead and take that out extremely generous again he's always coming in here with he's super generous that is banana is usually doing it when it's you and i and not when john's he's just pointing out thanks well point that out hi john you're watching yeah watching john i've been this is solomon grun i've been wanting to elevate all the hosts here but there's one i'm going to push down the barrel you should see that was actually what the wondercom panel's yeah pushing this Just like, shut up, John. Come on.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Let Michael talk. Anyone but John. We love John. No, that's great. Thank you so much. We'll take the money and move on. What are you saying? Too long.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Thank you so much for an insanely generous super chat. In case you guys don't know, it's 250 big ones. Crazy. And we deserve it. Obviously. Obviously. It's PlayStation 5. We absolutely have earned it.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Yeah. I've been waiting to ask this question. what is the most creative thing you've seen in a comic or media either an original gimmick or fourth wall break or something that was just a creative unique way to capture the story. I'm going to go with a very under-talked-about
Starting point is 01:15:29 movie that I think maybe is actually getting a lot of love lately. It's one of those. The Wachowski's Cloud Atlas. It's been on my... And I'm saying that I'm just going to go on my heart because it's been on my mind a lot.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Maybe because of the conversation of the Chowsky's coming around. And that was because I remember watching that in the theaters and hating my experience. Oh, really? I was hating this movie. I was not appreciating the shifts.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I couldn't get invested. I thought it was like too tonally jarring. And I thought it was distracting with the casting. I don't know what happened in the same exact. I saw people walking out. I loved that movie. And I saw, and it was obviously having a hard time registering with audiences. It was in the theater.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Halfway through, I don't know what happened. But suddenly I was like, huh, I think I'm starting on. You realized it was the true, true. And then as it kept going, I was like, I'm really invested in this. And then when it was cutting back and forth between all the storylines at the crescendo, I was like, this shit is intense. It's like an orchestra coming together, and it's basically. around an orchestra and the emotional through line
Starting point is 01:16:48 is what, like, edits. And it's, it was three directors they had to pull it off with. I think it was like six, I could be remembered this wrong. My mind is saying six writers. I don't remember who the third director was. Sir, some controversial casting choices. Looking back on it, but as a creative decision, I think that is one that is very much slept on
Starting point is 01:17:12 and shows the, it's like a very unique anthology. Cloud Atlas stars Tom Hanks and Halley Barry were the main stars and it is a it's the strangest anthology movie you'll see because most anthology movies go one story at a time and they're cutting back and forth
Starting point is 01:17:30 between like six different stories yeah that are kind of tethered and the edits aren't chronological or anything that it's a very different timelines but it's a motion that connects them and so it edits around a motion and it's like the universal feeling of It's like an orchestra.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Like when you get like an orchestra, like has an instrument, instrument, instrument, and then they layer, they layer, they layer. And then as it crescendos to the magic of the piece, the movie feels that way. Yeah. And the movie's about music in its own way. Like you're looking at very different time periods. It's a very strange film. Yeah, it's really special.
Starting point is 01:18:06 But it is, I think if you give it a chance and you let it wash over you, it becomes an experience. So, yeah, I'd say Cloud Atlas, for sure, is my answer. I'm going to go with a comic because you said comic or media, and I was trying to think of a comic that especially jarred me. I love Animal Man. I think it's one of the best fourth wall breaks in the history of comic books. I love the Animal, Rob Schneider.
Starting point is 01:18:30 He loves the Animal. But I think a great recent version of how wowed I was by the Animal Man. Animal Man's Grant Morrison, by the way. An Animal Man is so good at it. So you're reading a comic, and it's about this guy that can talk to animals, and it's a really beautiful story of trying to be like more eco-aware and the character talks to animals but it's kind of an eco story and you're like 10 issues in
Starting point is 01:18:53 and all of a sudden the speech bubble start talking to you like you while you're reading it and then all of a sudden like you turn a page and there's like blank behind him and the comic character is like looking at you and then you realize for the next few issues like you're in control but he's controlling the pace and it's written so well you actually feel like you can't stop.
Starting point is 01:19:11 So it's a fourth wall break that pulls you in a way that I've never experienced again. But recently, something was similar enough to that. Yeah, dude, it's crazy. But recently something was similar enough to that that I don't think it's gotten as much love because Grant Morrison's Animal Man is one of the great comics. I think there's this book that needs more attention.
Starting point is 01:19:30 It did win in Eisner and it did get some love, but it is so special. And it's called, it's lonely at the center of the earth. And it is a book by a very new, like within the last 10, years a comic creator i think the girl's like 26 and she's an artist and she was suicidal and she wrote her suicide energy and and emotions into a character and worked through her suicidal ideations by way of the time step here oh i'm sorry is that a thing oh i'm sorry that's the one i didn't know uh she wrote through her her dark ideations as a way to um navigate what it was like
Starting point is 01:20:13 from the outside to heal herself. And when you read this book, you're able to feel that darkness and you feel the uplift of overcoming trauma. You feel this closure. And she's an artist that works in multiple mediums and multiple styles. So there's characters that talk to each other
Starting point is 01:20:30 like voices in her head that are like helping her, but also you see why she was there. And you're just going on this journey through someone's actual mind. And it's so impressive. And the fact that she's young and basically, it, like, changed what I thought the medium could accomplish.
Starting point is 01:20:47 And I've been reading comics. Like, I learned to read the comics. So, you know, 30 years into reading comics, 30 plus, was so impressive to discover a new use of the medium. And the girls of delight. Our name's Zoe Throgood. And it's a single book. Like, it's one novel.
Starting point is 01:21:01 And it's called It's Lonely It's the Center of the Earth. And the tagline is this book shouldn't exist. And it's so powerful and it's so special. And if you pick it up, you can, like, send her message, tell her I sent you. Because, like, I want every. Everyone wanted to discover this book, and it's really special. It's from Image Comics, Lonely at the center of the earth, truly transcendent work.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Damn. Thank you. Sorry for saying the word of knowing. It's okay. I learned a new one, but it's a really special. Corey, listen, where's a camera pointed at us? I'm not going to lose my shit. He'll wait until after.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I know how this culture works. Yeah. I got to watch myself. He knows him going away so he can't black my eyes. Oh, the Department of Truth is also another truly, truly incredible bit of the medium. Hold on. I'm shouting out bad medicine, and I saw Galaxy Geeks in here earlier. Fellow React channels that deserve a lot of love.
Starting point is 01:21:51 And I'm pretty sure Galaxy Geeks, you guys work with Prepper? Our thumbnails look remarkably similar. Maybe not sharing that link now. Yeah, maybe not. I don't know how much we want to. Uh-huh. Anyway. Didn't share a link to my channel when I was plugging it.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Muted me. That's what he did. He muted me. You dumbass. I put up here on the community, I literally link your name, your actual channel when I, when I do that, I'm like, hey, look, you click that. It goes right to you. Every time. Oh, that's great. Why don't you shut up? Oh, all right. Shut up. That's fair. Just shut up. This is the abuse I got for saying words I shouldn't say. Yeah, yeah, but not about that.
Starting point is 01:22:32 We all know Greg is super abuse of all camera. That is the word of, I think if there's, if there's nothing I want to be remembered for, it is my draconian style around here. the gamer mj all right guys in five minutes we're going to turn off we're going to go through we're going to answer every super chat but we only got five more minutes to submit any more super chats or stream labs want to make sure we're on track and still give qualitative answers without being like thank you again chris my mom thank you chris yeah it took extra time for you because let's face it the gamer mj there's a character in the new fantastic four run that is the spittent image of deaf petel coy his name's dead petelkoi uh you know who i'm talking about. I read life death before the X-Men episode. Can't wait for part two. I did get the physical ones, but they are a pristine condition. I went digital. So you bought them, bagged and boarded them, kept them safe, and then read them digitally. That's what I do with any book older than
Starting point is 01:23:27 like the 80s. I am very intrigued by who you think is the spitting image of dead. Oh, I know. Now I had to say it out loud. Yes, and the new run is so, so, so good. Definitely check out the new run in Fantastic Four. I think it's one of the best runs in the history of Fantastic Four. A 60 you're running comic and right now it's accessible like you can pick up this comic i think it's on issue 18 go pick up fantastic for it's really really special um it deals with like the science of
Starting point is 01:23:52 the fantastic four but it makes you feel smart because you're understanding really deep concepts it's able to do that thing like good teachers do where it's able to articulate something so well you feel more informed for knowing it and you'll actually use it later but it's a comic book about the smartest people in the world and it's doing that while telling great adventure stories like the fantastic four should highly recommend it Joker 2, folding a deuce. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Let me check, make sure the stream labs are done. We're going to hop back to the supers. I hope you guys see that we still do like to look at the regular chat. Okay, cool. We are done. Thank you so much for everyone to contribute our stream labs. I hope we don't miss any. I'm going to go back to here.
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Starting point is 01:25:59 your personal messages, stay between you, your friends, and your family. No one else, not even us. WhatsApp. Message privately with everyone. if it doesn't do well that's her that's her that's her that's her we'll find out joker to you folding a two what you guys think i was folding the deuce it's a funny title i love got me uh let me see here let me reload this coy folia dukes foley oh the dukes boys i want to know who are the people who are there's a spinoff a ducs
Starting point is 01:26:37 a hazard of the guy named coy really yeah one of the Cousins of the Dukes of Hazard's name was Coy, spelled the same. It's the only time I've seen my name in media, other than Luke Perry, whose real name was Coy. It's a great Coy, Luke Perry. I hope that when Joker 2 trailer comes out, that people are actually not typing in Joker 2. They're like...
Starting point is 01:26:52 Learning French. Joker folia 2, trailer. It's definitely good for SIEO. Joker folio. Mixing English and French is great for SEO. I will be able to remember who the last one is. Don't worry. I got this.
Starting point is 01:27:08 I got this. Yes. You can tell. I got this. No. No. No. That's not the last one.
Starting point is 01:27:16 That was the last one. No, this was the last one. Are there any more, but that was the last one. Calmness is the key to success. Amix with the Zendaya one. Yeah, chat's been awesome day. I should agree. I agree.
Starting point is 01:27:29 It's the energy. It's energy. It's been a really angry week in the internet, so I really appreciate it. Hey, man. We just want to cultivate more positivity. We're trying to get that. market. What's Greg's opinion? As I say,
Starting point is 01:27:42 that's unidentially negative. We want to find the tiniest corner. No, you guys are great. What's Greg's opinion on the Supergirl director news? I'll tell you. Couldn't be more thrilled. Already no coys. And the fact that we'll be shooting right after Superman
Starting point is 01:27:58 and Peacemaker, I don't know who's directing it. Who's directing it? Craig Gillespie. And what did Craig Gillespie do? Last year, the very underrated dumb money. A couple of years prior, Cruella, which shows how good he is at world building. And also, like, the performances in Corel are a bit slept on. I think that Emma Stone's always good
Starting point is 01:28:14 so people don't realize. Like, that movie's got some great performances. Underrated actress. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, no one's recognized her talents. No, but when you're that good, you don't look at a movie. Like, Merrill Street doesn't go, like,
Starting point is 01:28:25 oh, that one good Merrill Street joint. And then he did Itonia, which I thought was incredible, especially performances. Is that how he pronounced it? I thought it's it Tonya. It's spelled Tonya. I don't know. I don't have any friends named Tanya or Tonya.
Starting point is 01:28:37 I knew it Tanya with an A. Anyway, made I Tanya. I haven't seen any of his movies. And then also the Fright Night remake with Colin Farrell, which is so good. Yeah, made that.
Starting point is 01:28:48 And a few episodes of Pam and Tommy, the miniseries about Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee. Oh, really? Did a few episodes of that. He's really good. And I think his overall repertoire shows good at directing actors,
Starting point is 01:29:01 good at world building, and good establishing a world. And I think you need that for this story in particular. It's a supergirl story that basically is like a mix of DC in Star Wars. It's a cosmic tale. So world building is really important. Also, obviously, getting the performances out of the actors. Because Supergirl,
Starting point is 01:29:13 as we've seen her in media, is often, like, very positive, but Supergirl in the comic, like, grew up on an asteroid watching her world die. So she's, like, a lot more hardened and intense. I'm excited to see that. Yeah. Sounds like a great pick. That's why I wanted it in the thumbnail. Yep. Because you knew that an hour
Starting point is 01:29:33 and a half in. Yeah, someone would ask. Someone would finally bring up a super. Mendea emoji would ask. Thank you, Amix. I wanted to talk about it. We're slowly trying to transition more non-comic stuff. That's why I like The Matrix. That's what they did Pooniverse.
Starting point is 01:29:49 That's what the Matrix? Because I love movies and it's so funny. Everybody's like, who's the comic guy? I am but. I am. I am. We're slowly trying to transition more out. Because we could view more live streams. Yeah, we can make them not just when there's comic news. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Never lose your nerd. Thanks for being here again. Oh, guys. Just to be disciplined here, I will have to, I'm going to first turn off the super chats and we're going to read the rest. I do want to talk about Civil War, but that's going to be dangerous. I can't wait to see that. That's going to be the messiest discourse on the internet. You guys want to see the greatest thing that Alex Garland is what YouTube says when you turn this off. Oh, there it is.
Starting point is 01:30:23 If you continue, your fans will no longer see Super Chats to Perchabbing. I understand the implications of this action. What have you done? What? Let me just make sure it's the last. And then... Yeah, Sebastian Stan was Tommy. 30 minutes.
Starting point is 01:30:42 30 minutes. All right, sweet. Guys, I should have grabbed a snack. Yep, we got work to do after. Guys, I'm hungry. Here we go again. Yes, never lose your nerd. Not sure about this female silver surfer,
Starting point is 01:31:05 not familiar with the character. just make a good Fantastic Four movie for once love you guys as always that is and should be the primary focus it really should be because let's face it man Fantastic Four I know a lot of love
Starting point is 01:31:21 has come around for the original I'd like to Rise of the Silver Surfer genuinely I did like that movie I think it's better than the first one the fan four stick you know underrate it's not a good movie one of the worst comic movie that is not
Starting point is 01:31:40 a good movie um yeah wow that last half is just it's insane how it takes a turn like I wasn't in the like host space as strongly so I saw it like when it came out on a Saturday and all the word of mouth was so horrible and like 20 minutes in I was like this isn't that bad and then there's
Starting point is 01:31:56 a more it's like one year later and I was like what did it come back to yeah once they do the one year later it's so bad what is this yeah and all the scenes they clearly cut like the fantastic card and stuff we saw behind this scene's footage of, like, they just cut the movie that was fantastic horror. I was actually digging the movie. I was like, yeah, it's not exactly the light, harder, flier, but I'm kind of liking his body horrid.
Starting point is 01:32:14 And then all of a sudden, what is it? Yeah. I just want a good fantastic four movie. I agree. Whatever that looks like, I'm ready for it. I agree. I agree, man. At the end of the day, you're right.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Bringing it back to that. Sam Spring. Hey, Greg. That's me. That's you. I realize it had I've been watching for nearly a decade. Whoa. Good.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Good. From back of the day watching Ryan. right miss that guy certainly wouldn't put up with the wife he has now or a lady surfer lady in general women shouldn't leave the kitchen they can't surf in the kitchen see you grow the channel is it a jota hill i just said it oh that would be a great i feel like that has a jona hill jona hill as noren rad to a female solversurf see you grow the channel and review some of my favorite cond is a great cue with a great word hey man I appreciate it
Starting point is 01:33:05 I know I've been helping a guide and lead this channel but I have not done it alone and that is for sure bringing on other people to the team not this guy but everyone else has been amazing yeah no it really is
Starting point is 01:33:21 at the end of the day it is a team effort from all around obviously John and you know it's kind of cool because like we have one editor and then who is helping us out And then we have an editing team. And then now that one editor who was gone, he's now part of the team with us again. So it's like kind of all coming around and having hosts like Koi and Tara,
Starting point is 01:33:44 Roxy, Aaron, Andrew, all of them, man. They're all amazing. And, you know, we've got people behind the scenes to help out too. You guys don't even probably know about. People like, holidays, big part. So, yeah, it's a big team effort. And at the end of the day, I do rule with an iron fist. I do say, don't forget who's in charge people.
Starting point is 01:34:01 You answer to me at the end of the day is what I tell everyone. Wear this shirt. Shut your mouth. Edit that part. Wade in the shed. Wade in the shed. That would be so funny.
Starting point is 01:34:18 That's the green room. This hot shit. Yes, I just spake in the sun. Unable to breathe in shed. You can only eat oranges. There's weird rules here. I do have a bunch of oranges. I could technically be snacking.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Yeah. Oh yeah, you literally have substance. We'll grab a map. It'll be delicious. Nick Alexander, love all your crew and what you do. Are you going to have the live show available? Yeah, I really botched that. That's the problem when you
Starting point is 01:34:47 it's the problem when you lead. You got to take responsibility for shit. You can't play people. I'm the one that does this. Oh, I'm the one that does this. I should have. Because I could easily be like, I thought this person said. And then I'm like, nope, nope, nope, I have to, nope, nope, I have to, nope, nope, I got to, I got to take responsibility. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:10 It was fun. So the day, yeah, I have to, I do have, because otherwise it's not going to change. So I, I should have better prepared. Really, it is my fault. I should have better prepared. I should have had it. As I'd say, I want to film it and I misunderstood something in a day, I should have, I should have double checked in the midst of rushing.
Starting point is 01:35:25 But we've been talking about doing something else that we could film. Yeah, I'd love to do an actual, just live event or people can come out. hey, like $500 to see us in person, and then an extra $500 for us to sign something. Holy Chris Whamoff comes out. That would be so fun. He's an honorary reject at this point. He just had us on stage.
Starting point is 01:35:44 He has earned it, man. You buy your way into being on the show. He went the Ivy League route. We have a library with his name on it outside. The Chris Whamoff Library is how he's in. But yeah, we'd love to do a live event. We'd film that one. It's been a big talk.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Yeah, it'd be a lot of fun. I think with this crew would be great. That's my quote. I love this. Yeah, that's the problem when you lead. You have to take responsibility for shit. That is like modern day leadership talk right there. Yeah, and that's the problem when you lead.
Starting point is 01:36:10 You got to take responsibility for whatever happens at the organization. Yeah, it's on you. You're the top. You got to take responsibility for it all the end of the day. Mick No Light. Julia Gardner aside, I'm sure she'll be great. You know, it's great. Honestly, I think there's a question coming about trailer actions
Starting point is 01:36:29 why we don't do them as often, and I will go into it. I just hope we get Lakeith as Norn Ratt eventually. That's peak casting. Keanu would be peak as well. There's got to be something in there for Keanu, for sure. I'll just find myself watching interviews with Keanu. He's so magnificent. I'll forget that you introduced me to him.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Your photo in my phone is you with Keanu because it's the happiest I've ever seen a person. Not just you, but a person. It was so great. He does have this magnetic ability to make you feel like he's not in a rush. And he's so careful. activating like when you're talking to him like he listens so well he's a better listener than talk and apparently that is um uh what people say is like in real life like when he when he
Starting point is 01:37:13 fans come up to him like he doesn't make you feel like he's in a rush to get through this conversation yeah and i'm the opposite we really that's why he didn't show you the live footage from wonder con because reg's like moving along with your answers ridiculous i'm like i'm not keanu reeves I harbor all money. I'm not buying you motorcycles. You get no Rolexes. Frankly, it's about me. Keanu would be a great living tribunal.
Starting point is 01:37:41 I don't know what this giving attitude is. It doesn't work. Does not work. Keanu would be a great living tribunal. I love that. We got to embrace the silences. PLT projects. Thank you, PLD.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Well, you were going to talk about the trailer. I think there's a question coming up. I was giving you space. I'm definitely the only person, PLB project, says this. The only person clamor for it, but give me the Juno version of Silver Surfer. Hercules' granddaughter and the latent version of Hulk. I don't know anything of this means, but it sounds auspicious. Well, we did get Hercules at the end of Thor, so we know he's canon.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Oh, God, that's right. Yep, remember when Roy Kent was Hercules for 12 seconds, so he's in there. I know we want to bring positivity, but MCU, what are you doing? There's so many characters. But we can't speak bad about that choice because it's a white man. Oh, that's true. That's true. Come on now.
Starting point is 01:38:34 I'm glad they didn't douse them in makeup. Yeah. Not enough whites in the MCU, so we can't talk ill of the one we got recently. No, but I think that Hercules would be fun as the villain of Thor 4, and that would be a fun way to bring in the Juno version. I don't know if that's what they're doing, because again, I don't know how much I trust any of these reports. I feel like one person heard Julia Garna was cast as the Herald of Galactus, typed in Herald of Galactus, saw that it was Silver Surfer, And then by the time we heard it through the game of telephone of the internet, it was like, Julia Garger is Silver Surfer.
Starting point is 01:39:03 And now there's just thousands of people like raging. So I'm going to wait and see the movie. I was excited for Hercules because everyone else loves Ted Lassau. You know, you don't like Ted Lassau? I haven't seen it. But that's what everyone is like. That's my moment of silence. The Hercules disrespect is deserved because all he did was stand
Starting point is 01:39:22 and we needed better. It's not your Anya. How many on ye's do you know? I thought you're spelled Audia's name? Yeah. Is her last name? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:34 She liked Hercules for some reason? I think she likes Roy Kent. Or she just wanted to give me crap about the white man of all. Oh. Either one serves a narrative. All right. Yeah. Well, hi, Andre.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Charles Smith. Don't like woke politics personally. I personally love woke politics. Yeah. It's a word that totally means what you think it means. pizza and talk about it. But people do. So entertainment should stay neutral.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Marvel can fix everything just by depicting the most popular versions of characters rather than gender race swapping. You got to do it all the time. All the time. And it succeeds every time when they don't do it. Yeah, I mean, I guess. You know, they made Doctor Strange another sex
Starting point is 01:40:20 and that movie did so well. You know, that female Dr. Strange movie I saw was riveting. Was it? Yeah. Rividing. I don't think that art should be neutral because then it's not good. Like, I think art should say something, and most art is politically charged because that is something we deal with in all ways. I think the word politics has about as much relevance as the word woke in that we've abused it to the point of it being nothing. I do believe we are in a position where we need to have our culture reflect our times, and I think our times are aggressively bad for a lot of reasons.
Starting point is 01:40:51 And I think we're living through some, if we were a different generation, I think that, there would be a lot more guillotine. Like, I think that we're not as violent about the oppressive nature because we've got the opioid of the masses easier controlled. Like, we used to think the opioid of the masses was religion. Then it became television, and people worried that TV was going to make us into nothing like these mindless drones. I think that our phones have done what everyone feared the other things we're going to do.
Starting point is 01:41:19 I think every generation thinks they're the last generation. I think every generation gets apocalyptic. But I think we're actually seeing enough things that show, like, hey, we should react, and I think that art is our way to react, and I think our art is our way to communicate. So I think that politics are inherent to survival, and I think that the way we say politics isn't actually what people think of with politics. So if you make art that's neutral, you're not saying anything,
Starting point is 01:41:43 and you don't deserve to make it. So I don't think we should swap everything. I don't think we should make everything another thing, but I do think that if you are writing comics in the 60s and every single character is white, and now you're making movie in the 2020s and not every single person is white maybe things need to change and again it's back to the pie metaphor
Starting point is 01:42:00 I think whites were used to having 80% of the pie now they have 50 and that 30% is all they're noticing I don't think it's fair to blindly say anything is woke or blindly and thing as political but I do think it's fair to say that art should reflect the times and that people should be reflected in their art you know this is why I just stay on my cabin the shed
Starting point is 01:42:19 there's a golf course you don't need to like pay attention any of this stuff. The yammering of the world outside. Everyone else is fixated on. Greg's just making his billion. He's sitting at his cabin with his just counting money.
Starting point is 01:42:32 This is so much of this other stuff that people are concerned about with their lives and politics and just like, get over yourself. Come on. Chill out. Have a mojito. Yeah. Go to Cuba on your speedboat.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Have you seen by any of place? No, no. I've tried it. I don't like it. Oh. I don't like it. Coy, don't do it. Don't even do it. All right. All right. I did watch the Al Pacino and De Niro scene from Heat again.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Oh, so you got some Michael, man. All right. She's got a great ass. It's true. It's true. It's all you need for me. No, heat in three hours, three hours, summed up in one sentence. It's true.
Starting point is 01:43:11 You got your head all the way up it. I want to see Greg do heat. The whole movie. Just a Greg readactment of all parts of heat. I'm just so fucking weird Yeah Yeah I do think that I think all people really care about
Starting point is 01:43:34 It's something that is I think what people are looking for is Authenticity and genuine As I do my El Pacino impression People are looking for authenticity and genuine In their art That's what they're looking for And I think when we talk about like diversity pandering or whatever that's when you could feel choices being made by a committee that is trying to placate
Starting point is 01:43:55 without, you could just tell when it's there, and then you could feel when it's real. And I think as long as you can just feel that it's a real thing, you're not really going to give a shit with the final product ultimately. It always comes down to that. At the end of the day, people make their choices based off emotion. And that is the choice whether to like something or not like something is always an emotional-based choice as well. So when it comes down to the final product, whatever it comes
Starting point is 01:44:24 to these characters, like we might have our preconceived notions or it should be this or whatever. At the end of the day, if they do a great job and it feels sincere, like if there's a real heart to it or whatever, the emotionality is actually conveyed, you're not really going to give a shit at the end of the day about that other stuff. It's a way it always comes down to. Look at Miles Morales. Like, it's insane
Starting point is 01:44:40 how much reaction there was to that at first, and now it's like the Spider-Man for the entire generation. Exactly. So I think that was authentic. That came from a place of wanting to make a new character that appealed to an entire demographic of people that didn't feel like they were seen and that character is now an entire generation's verse of that character for everyone that looks in any way. So that came from a place of heart, not pandering. I do, and I feel like I'm, there's so much of the other perspective about this stuff on
Starting point is 01:45:06 the internet that I react in a way that is way more extreme than how I feel day to day. There are things that are absolutely pandering. There are things that are absolutely exhausting in that they're just trying to get, some checkmark checked and I hate that stuff but I feel like there are so many worse things than wanting people to be seen that I would rather comments on the times it works than let the people that are always talking about it even when it doesn't work so those people are covering the bases for the pandering they're doing just fine there are plenty of times I think it's
Starting point is 01:45:37 inauthentic I'm talking about the times it's authentic and it helps people feel like they have a place in the world because that's what art is supposed to do it's emotion made into something that you can share and I want people to feel that they can share that emotion with it. Did you ever notice that what it is authentic? People don't talk about it? Ever. Because that's because it's authentic.
Starting point is 01:45:53 But then if you look back, you're like, oh, wait a minute. They're actually doing the representation. They're actually doing all that. But because it's authentic, you're not freaking talking about it. So it's kind of strange that they don't, it's kind of like visual effects. A lot of times, there's so many visual effects that don't get credit. You hear them talk when it's bad. You know, you pointed out.
Starting point is 01:46:15 But most of the time when it's great, you kind of. expected to be great because it's by standard you know and it's really funny with like representation even for me who like I obviously see myself everywhere but like Boston is whenever there's a Boston thing I'm like and it feels
Starting point is 01:46:32 so special whenever like the Barry Keogan and Eternals was like Irish accent and so I want more specificity for people not less like I don't think we should make this broad strokes thing I think it's really cool to have people like have the specific thing that feels like them absolutely syrup sailor
Starting point is 01:46:48 Hey, that Supergirl will be great with Gilepsy. That's what I've been saying this whole time. Yeah, Greg is a huge Craig Gillespie fan. He knows all of his work. This whole time I've been saying that. Put it in the family. I'm like, he should be running the DC universe. The whole day, I was like, Greg, it's not in the thumbnail.
Starting point is 01:47:03 And then he switched it out. And he was like, Supergirl is obviously the headline. No, no, no. Oh, my God. Millie. Alco is great. McNo light. Thank you, McMillel.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Minor differences are kind of the main point of alternate realities, which is why I think Julie Garner is fine for the suicide squad. theories I don't ever got her name Shala Mall silver server is what it's what it's mean I thought I meant the other one her name is Shala Ball but I think he said oh yeah it's SS okay here is
Starting point is 01:47:29 take two on a potential plot Coy you got 30 seconds I think it's going to be the Fantastic 4 trapped in another reality another time that is going to be like a retrofuturistic 60s they get either through the negative zone or the quantum realm since there's in so much quantum realm how does silver server come in
Starting point is 01:47:46 they brought into our world I think the mark is going to be that the silver surfer in their world is a female silver surfer in our world is Norn Red. I think it might be a reveal either immediately in the second act or into the third act where they realize, oh, this isn't home. We're not in Kansas anymore. I think the plot is going to be largely based around the scientific community and why they're Marvel's first family. I think that Sue Storm is either going to have Franklin in the film or already have Franklin making them a true first family. I don't think we're going to get a definitive origin, like first, second, third act. I think they're already going to be powered, maybe use flashbacks.
Starting point is 01:48:18 And I think the big bad is going to be someone other than Doom, making Doom more of an Emperor Palpatine. I think he'll be in the film, but I don't know if it might just be a post-credit, setting them up for Secret Ords and allowing him to be the Big Bad of a greater thing. And I think it'll be a really fun old-school sci-fi feel like Star Trek. The Kelvin Universe Star Trek, I think, is going to be kind of that influence in tone. Sweet sauce, great answers all around, Coy. X, Skulls, let me get this name here.
Starting point is 01:48:45 X skulls and lace X pleasure to make your acquaintance not related to the chat at all but hey thank you for being here but are you ever going to react to the split trilogy please well I've seen the split trilogy makes it hard I wonder if there's other people here who haven't seen the split
Starting point is 01:49:04 trilogy because that would be a great reaction series those twists and turns um unbreakable is my favorite shaman movie um i love that movie wow all right what do you have it's hard to top six cents like just for the impact like culturally that was such a huge moment in my life uh i also love signs but i think it's six cents unbreakable signs so in the orders he releases movie maybe no i think
Starting point is 01:49:36 signs was second no signs was third was it okay then i guess yeah i remember immediately because unbreakable was the second movie okay yeah i was like oh he's followed it up and then that's That's why they advertise it as a horror movie. And it made no money. Yeah. Because it's not a horror. Not at all. Those three are all great.
Starting point is 01:49:52 I love the split trilogy. I don't like the final one. Really? Really didn't. Oh, that's a bummer. I kind of hate that one. All right. That one really disappointed me.
Starting point is 01:50:03 I remember liking it, but I've only seen it once in theater, so I clearly didn't love it. Tara and Roxy for Split Trilogy. That's when they stopped being a movie and it just became Shyamalan. Just going. Talking. Talking. Like, I'm going to make myself a kid. character.
Starting point is 01:50:15 He just went fully in the water. Here's my outline. You guys speak my outline. Here's my ideas. Speak my ideas. Exposition. Exposition. Idea idea.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Guito Galindo. Welcome back, my friend. Good to see you, man. By their commentators, or they're just to feel seen. I don't know. Comic books like co-experts. Thought it was a different word. A simple Google search tells me that Shalabal,
Starting point is 01:50:40 Noron's lovers. The picture is joining him. It's the second silver surfer. Bam. Boom. That's the new, that's the new thing we're going to say. Boom, shalabala. Boom, shalabala.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Oh my God, we've got to have that. Boom, shalabala. When it turns out that Noran Rad is Silver Surfer, Boom Shalabala. Boom, Shalabala. Hard to say. I do think it is an easy Google, and I appreciate you letting people know. Like, yeah, it is not a new character, and it's also not a gender-swapped character. It's someone you can Google because they've been around since Silver Surfer issue one.
Starting point is 01:51:12 I think that news art. As much crap as we get for clickbait, I think that every major news source now is clickbait. I think Variety deadline, CNN, Fox News, NBC, all of it is like, how do we make this sensational? We get crap for clickbait? No, not us. Not YouTube. I feel like we've dialed it back. I think we're, I mean, I work with people I respect, and I wouldn't respect us if we were as bad as some places.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I feel like we dialed it back. Yeah. Even the thumbnails as feeling hopeful question. Yeah, it's not like. been like something way more could have been like a lady I love the idea should we be mad silver lady question mark can women surf um no it's it's it's uh I think it's a problem overall
Starting point is 01:52:01 especially when it took you how long to do that so yeah I think it's just people people want to be mad man we have a lot to be mad at for real I think people want to be mad at stuff that can't kill us so they get mad at movies uh I just got you know what's what's funny about the side of the internet that like I said there are some channels that I think like they do produce good videos but it's the audience they attract and feed into and that emotion that I'm personally not
Starting point is 01:52:23 interested in having us feed into here on a consistent basis is you gotta imagine when female Silver Surfer gets announced do you think these channels are actually mad or they go in ooh I could milk this
Starting point is 01:52:39 and make money and say the same kind of shit I've always been saying that's the attitude. What worries me is they don't even realize it anymore, though. I don't think it's as conscious as, I wish it was that. I think they immediately just leap to it because that's what they've been programmed to be. I think a lot of these hate channels don't get to enjoy things anymore, actually, because if they enjoyed something, they don't have content to make out.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Yeah, and that's the thing is I feel like that, I feel that's who they are as individuals, but the second this news happens, there is a joy for them because they can make money, they can make money off of feeding off of other people. 100%. because I fully don't believe that they're actually they're vehemently pissed to them. It's like boom, dollar bill signs.
Starting point is 01:53:18 And what's so funny is like Craig Gillespie, a man is directing Supergirl. I guarantee not a single one of those channels that Mayday, I'm so mad Silver Surfer as a woman, Mayday, I'm so mad a man's directing Supergirl. Like that is so hypocritical. I think that a woman should be able to direct the Avengers and I think a man should be able to direct Supergirl.
Starting point is 01:53:36 That's very good point. I don't think we are looking at things in the same fair lens. And I think a lot of that's from pendulum swinging. But I think it's so funny how, like, what's the idea of the politics? Not, not, oh, shit, but there's a term for it. Culture wars, like the cultural politics. I think cultural politics are very one-sided because there are a lot of people that are just too informed to speak up about stuff that's more nuanced.
Starting point is 01:54:01 It's just going to be the loud voices that want to cause those clicks. McNolight, I've been reading the, thank you, McNo-Light. I've been reading the Ultimates lately and I've been enjoying it so much. disappointed that we'll probably never get to see them on the big screen uh they could be a cool cosmic avengers team hey i would say probably never they're gonna run out of shit to do at some point unless 60 years comics man they're gonna need to go way into the can and really like what we got here uh here dust it off you know see what they can do throw it in an AI machine so they can get back the image and oh that's what it is the ultimate and then we'll get the
Starting point is 01:54:38 Ultimates. I think the Ultimates are kind of the version of the Avengers we got cinematically, but with a little less of that 2000's edge. Like the 2000s were really weird time in comics when the Ultimate stuff came out.
Starting point is 01:54:49 There was a lot of like post the authority, post-squadron Supreme edginess where it's like, there's a moment in the Ultimates that I love because it's so Ultimates where Captain America's got the A in his forehead. And there's this whole badass fight. And then the final splash page, you goes,
Starting point is 01:55:04 do you think this stands for France? And it's basically like, we don't bail because we're America and like Captain America to me is not like but I like that for that arc but I do think the cinematic nature of the Ultimates is what led us to the Avengers
Starting point is 01:55:19 so I don't know if we'll ever get a team called the Ultimates because I think we're kind of taking the best of the Ultimates and making it cinematic but I think if we made an Ultimates it would be kind of like Snyder's here Yeah let's see here I'm glad you're enjoying it I think it's great book
Starting point is 01:55:35 Ian Blush Hey everyone Theonon says, If this is leading Deadpool and Wolverine keep the R rating, I hope the Daredevil stroke feels the same. Happy John Birkall is back. Let's go. I am curious what level of R rating they're willing to go with it.
Starting point is 01:55:51 And I'm going to try to mince my words here is because I think Deadpool and Wolverine is not going to have any problem at all going violent. It's sexual. It's the part where I think that are going to shy up a little bit. Like, would we get that beautiful montage that we have with him? Dude, the tour is such a loveling. Like, it's a general montage of love.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Would you have that? Is Disney willing to still let Deadpool get away with that? I think there'll be commentary that they didn't let them. Because even on, I remember like Jessica Jones. Yeah, the coffee. Luke Cage and Jessica, they went at it. Yeah, I had to get some coffee. That was definitely Netflix.
Starting point is 01:56:34 They went at it. I think that there won't be as much sex, but there will be Deadpool making a joke that Disney didn't let him. Like, I think the fourth ball break might be like, we'd show you the scene, but this is a Disney film. Like, I think that's how they'll do it, like the trailer did. I think that Disney is letting them be the butt of the joke
Starting point is 01:56:52 before they're letting them actually do things. But I do think Ryan Reynolds had some certain expectations of control. So I think that there will be more than Disney's probably comfortable with, but not as much as Ryan wanted. I think there'd be, like, a compromise. Because at the end of the day, like the first pegging scene in a major, you know, superhero film is Deadpool. And that was a joke in the trailer, but whether or not that makes it into this next round of movies is the question.
Starting point is 01:57:12 So, yeah, I think there'll be plenty of violence. Disney has no problem killing people. The problem they have with is people making new people. Absolutely. You can end lives. You can't create them. Thanks for the question. Adit Mahmood.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Hey, hey, thank you. If you had to cast up a thousand superhero, who would it be, Green Arrow, Cyclops, Mr. Sinister? Apparently, Michael. apparently i mean which we came up with all our oh we thought when night collar was pitched our way we thought that was a great pick it's just the the one thing is that you know they have uh they constantly they usually take the people of color and they're like douse them in makeup and and and that part of like well come on death fattel let's yeah let's give him some i mean he could be a good cyclops you block his eyes mr sinister he's
Starting point is 01:58:02 thousand makeup green but but i do think he could bring the thing with night crawler though is you could still bring a lot a great performance a lot of emotion a hundred percent because it's not makeup that is modifying the face it's just like blue yeah like he's not trapped like the thing yeah there's even like uh zoe's she's the one under guardians right yeah yeah she's still like so much she's still a great performance still excellent there yeah because like it doesn't limit her at all right and uh you could still make out that it's her you know So I think, yeah, it could be a happy medium. And, like, they even did a good job.
Starting point is 01:58:36 But, but the, like, the Marvel make, do makeup for Nightcrawler? I certainly hope so. I hope so. I don't want to CG. I mean, I didn't like, we didn't like CGA beast. We were in, like, the tiniest minority of people were all so excited. And I was like, why is he from the cartoon? Just way, wait for a few years from now.
Starting point is 01:58:50 You're going to hate the way that looks. I guarantee it. Yeah, it's not, not great. Yeah, you're going to hate it. It's not going to age well. Gosh. Christian unpronounceable. Pretend.
Starting point is 01:59:02 No, Christian's always in our chats, man. Pretend this is for subscriptions. Hello, I love the great work you guys do, and your opinions matter to me. Oh, thank you so much. Just remember that if we ever have conflicting opinions, always go with ours over yours. Remember, we're right. We're right. We have platform.
Starting point is 01:59:20 We power. Yeah, yeah. Notice we have the microphones, little keyboards, all right? Always doubt if you're slightly disagreeing. Right. Always go with our objective. opinion. Because we've been obviously learning and reading and knowing more than anyone.
Starting point is 01:59:37 So, like, if you go like, ooh, like, I feel differently, know that you didn't read, learn, or know something that we clearly did. Because following. Right. I mean, yeah. If you look at subscriber numbers, that's actually a data count of how much we're better. It's just enlightenment numbers. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Sorry. Your opinion matters to us, too. Also, thank you. He always does, like, a ton of Twitch subscriptions, so that's, I think, what that reference is. So thank you very much for throwing those our way. I appreciate it. Always here.
Starting point is 02:00:12 Adita Tripati, except for Daredevil, glad to see John Birkaw-Fogging, Kareem, Best Actor for Batman. Oh, my God. I'm going to go with the child of Alan Ritchson and Jetson Ackles. Greg, I love the trailer actors, but now you did them rarely. Coy, like, their Monkey Man Review,
Starting point is 02:00:29 or the Indian John Wirt. Yeah, we don't really do trailer reactions that often i mean first it was like the copyright system of it but at the end of the day i did find that like as we've been loving the movie reactions and show reactions more the less we expose ourselves to the trailers in general i've watched less trailers yeah the better it the experience of it becomes and it's like we're still going to do trailers but just we haven't been doing them as often and uh yeah you know like and sometimes like the work we do now for the channel takes up a lot more time than before and once in a while
Starting point is 02:01:08 it's like you know i just i can't wake up at six in the morning you did the crow that day you know like i'm just not going to do yeah uh because i'm very exhausted from the other work that we've been doing but yeah i mean i i i still like i know trailers were the thing that catapulted us and but i at the at the end of the day uh we'll still be we're just going to select we're a little bit more selective on how many we want to do now and when to do them. Like we're going to do Joker, obvious. And like the second Deadpool trailer. The ones that are like
Starting point is 02:01:39 well, it'll be everywhere anyway, we'll do. Yeah, it'll be well worth it. But like House of the Dragon, I was like, I'm already going to watch all these episodes. So I don't want to know anything. So let me just not watch this trailer. Even though I know this trailer will get a lot of views. I'm like, nah, I'd rather skip it.
Starting point is 02:01:56 Also, my Batman, and it's been the guy for a long time. I'd still want you a chilling home. And I saw Anthony Cheesman said Jake Chilinall be a good Batman or Joker. I think good, good Batman's, that's kind of the ideal, right? As someone that is that, like, that's the coin. That's the flip between the two. So I'd love to see Jake Chillon Hall as Batman because he has that darkness.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And 3D Roadhouse abs. Imagine Batman with that 3D roadhouse ab body. We've got a lot more to get through, cool. Let's do it, man. You keep rambling about shit. Yeah. getting like freaking about politics and people's human rights i mean who should these people
Starting point is 02:02:34 why do they exist god we got shit to do honestly the unimportant stuff okay willam defoe his dcue joker would just shut up i was trying not to silence this is what he's like when we're off camera i was trying to find my truth so hungry no RELS. Hey guys, been enjoying your X-Men reactions.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Coy, you're like a comic encyclopedia. Love all the improv you provide. You guys rock. Well, Koi is definitely
Starting point is 02:03:05 going to make shooting X-Men 5 an easy, breezy experience this Tuesday. Yeah. No, I'm the...
Starting point is 02:03:12 Can't wait for this midnight experience with Koi. Greg looks at the Reject's roster and he goes, who is the easiest to deal with personally,
Starting point is 02:03:20 with their schedule, uh, just as a reject and share yeah no i'm sorry i just can't i just can't wait for it guys give you worth it i'm going to cinema con and cinema con is in Vegas and we are in not Vegas and so that is causing quite a trickiness since only gregg and i are doing the x-men watch um so we're going to try to figure that out but oh boy it's different when there's three people because you're like oh it's just not here he just came up to he was like i got to do
Starting point is 02:03:52 tradition. I'm not going to be in one. I'm like, I'm not just going to go solo. What's so funny is... We've got Comic Corner launch. You've got another interview coming now. I'm not just going to like not do this with you. Everything around the episode is me and I'm not in the episode. There's so much about you being here. That's
Starting point is 02:04:08 important. Just pretend I said she are every time it's spiral and that'll be my experience of the episode is me being wrong about comic facts. I do appreciate and it is very complicated with schedules and I'm very excited at Percept.com, but I've actually like we talked about cinema con about six months ago
Starting point is 02:04:24 and things just changed with what the plan was going to be but the whole time I was like oh it's like a weekend it's a con and then like when the schedule came out I was like oh it's four days that's crazy must be through Monday and then I like looked at the day on the calendar about two weeks ago and I was like so Greg it's um it's Wally X-Men's all and we have all this stuff around the X-Men and oh oh no and I've almost canceled like 10 times
Starting point is 02:04:46 because of the X-Men so I want to give Greg his flowers on camera that he has made it possible know what's going on He has made it possible for me to go to cinema con and still cover X-Men for you guys. Michael's helping out too. Yes, yes. Got this going. My God. What a complicated thing.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Ragged Rick. What's your take on Allen Richardson wanting to be Batman? He wants to be Batman. That's my take on it. I think you be a fault. Have you seen Reacher? I've seen season one. I've watched season two yet.
Starting point is 02:05:12 I think he'd be a real. And I've seen like interviews with him. Asking. Lobbying. I've seen like, so like, oh, this guy's got more, like I already love him as Jack Reacher. but he's not like he doesn't behave like jack creature he's like yeah he was like so that's that's shown me that okay he's not just like this character so he could be both
Starting point is 02:05:34 I think I his build is enormous it's enormous build it would be nice to get like an enormous Batman a giant Jim Lee Batman like just that stature where you're like huh it might be easy to pinpoint who Batman is based I was thinking like I wanted his Batman but if I saw Bruce want to be like I was Batman that man look how massive this guy is that guy in the tux that is the size of a tree
Starting point is 02:05:55 might be the tree-sized Batman vigilante running around town but I think he would actually be a pretty damn good Batman I think it'd be a great way to distinguish between the Pattinson Batman that is supposed to be more of a detective with the Batman that fits amongst the Justice League
Starting point is 02:06:10 from the beginning I said I think Matt Reeves Batman should stay outside the DCU because it gives us a different take if Superman landed in Matt Reeves Gotham I think that would sully the Matt Reeves verse a bit Whereas I think to make him so different, especially visually, that there can be a Batman that fits because the Batman in the comics does both. And I think it'd be cool to have a Batman that's a detective and this giant Hulk of a Richson, even though the plausible deniability of a man like that is Batman is pretty hard. Dude, I totally concur.
Starting point is 02:06:35 Marley Morgan is also saying this. Thank you, Marley Morgan. Retro Future makes me think of the Jetsons. That could be fun. I'm talking about Fantastic Four being retro future. Yes, I'm into that. Dude, that's what we want. Marvel be more funny.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Funny Marvel. It's definitely not been funny enough lately, and that's what they're missing. More Easter eggs, more jokes. Marbles was funny. Yep, sure was. Marbles went for funny. Did that.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Can you imagine if Marvels came out one week before Loki season two, how different the conversation around Marvel would be? Remember that pendulum swinging was like one thing we loved, one thing we didn't like as much? And like, if they had swapped at one point. All right, like eliminate just our two opinions. I'm talking about the general Zyte, I surround the marvels.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Yeah. You know, I feel like it's just a completely different conversation. And release dates are that important for a reason. Yeah. Because the conversation is important. Well, yeah, because it's not about what's true. It's about what people think.
Starting point is 02:07:33 And as soon as people think something's bad, people, like it spreads, like cancer. Like, people think it's bad, a thing is bad, a thing is bad, whether it's good or bad doesn't matter anymore. Like, the truth isn't true. It's about opinion, which is interesting. Sammy Baddenfeld.
Starting point is 02:07:46 Hey, have either of you watched Hulu's hit monkey? Nope. If yes, thoughts, nope, thoughts. But I appreciate the super chat very much so. No refunds. If no possible future reaction, maybe. I don't even know what the hell you're talking about. There's a show on Hulu, and there's a great character that actually has some great teamups with Deadpool named Hit Monkey. That is John Wick as a monkey. It is an assassin monkey that wears a tux, and he is awesome. That's hit monkey. That actually sounds like a show I would just love to walk. That's great. I need to have some shows just for. for me so that way I can be more authentic when it is just here.
Starting point is 02:08:24 I just started peeky blinders for that reason. I waited for it to end completely, so I wouldn't feel like I should comment on it, and now I'm loving it as my own thing. That hit monkey show does sound good. I'm actually glad I just learned about it. I do have Hulu, because Disney Plus forced it on me. Yes.
Starting point is 02:08:39 D. Murdoch. Hey, guys, I thought I'll throw this one out there. Buntos Punisher versus John Wick. personal bias leads me towards Bernthal's Punisher L.O.L. Sorry, Kianu. Super hype for Daredeville Born Again, and really I'm hoping for Midnight Suns.
Starting point is 02:08:57 I feel like Bernthal's Punisher might ultimately win. I feel like John Wick's immortality is a problem. I feel like they've just made him immortal now, and I feel like we still have some John Bernthal, like
Starting point is 02:09:15 plausibility of death. Did John Wick die? Yeah, but I don't know. If they make a fifth one, maybe not. But they're talking about a fifth one, which I hope is him fighting down the gates of hell. Like the heaven's gate and there's a lot of stairs. Yeah. Yeah, I think, I think, no, you know what? I take it back.
Starting point is 02:09:33 I think John Wick. I love John Bernthal, but they give him too much realism. So I feel like John Wick because they've escalated to such a level. Every time I see John, I'll look at the Marley one. Don't let me forget Marley. Every time I see John Bernthal, he's just, like, drenched in wounds and blood. Right. Whereas, like, John Wick, he, like, falls from the Continental, and the next day, he's like, all right, I'm back in action.
Starting point is 02:10:02 He didn't his punching back. Let's get some revenge. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go Wick winning, but, you know, because of writing. Yeah. And I can't wait for Born Again, too. And I think Midnight Sun's rumor has it will be Michael Giacino directing who did that incredible.
Starting point is 02:10:15 Oh, God. Again, yeah. I roll off my night. Yeah. So much I forgot about. Which was also one of the good swings and the bad swing. That was in that era. That was great.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Vibrox. What's up? Vibrox. Naruto. Soske. May the rejects prosper. Happy Saturday. Good serves.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Thank you so much, man. I love your thumb, by the way. Thank you so much for that super chat. R.G.2088. I'm thrilled. Netflix Marvel's now Canon. Especially with John Bernthal's return. I love how much.
Starting point is 02:10:47 people are loving birdthelman dude i told you that's why i put them on there it says super girl should they bring back all the main characters personally i feel like the actor iron fist actor deserves another chance i mean you mean colin wing deserves another yeah if anyone comes over you mean jessica henwick deserves another chance one of the highlights of matrix four she was good jessica hemwick is always great she was good and that was one where i personally was like i'm all for this season two choice they made because more henwick because she is the best part I have, like, a high school college-esque caliber crush on Jessica Henwick. It's like when you're a kid and you're like, oh, no, anything they do, I'll go sick.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Like, Jessica Henwick is just so captivating. I hear she's a bitch in real long. Oh, no. I haven't heard of her. I've just, my God, Jessica Henwick. So, yeah. I have never heard a single thing about it. Jessica Henwick as Iron Fist, bring her back.
Starting point is 02:11:37 Otherwise, yeah, I feel like Finn Jones wouldn't want to come back. I feel like the end of Season 2 of Iron Fist was about to be an incredible show, but I feel like It's too far gone. Of Danny Wain. He learned to fight. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, he was awful.
Starting point is 02:11:57 I don't even remember, which is not a good sign. He was genuinely, he was not good in that show. I really, I thought he improved, markedly improved in season two. I like season two, actually. I remember that now. I remember being like, let's turn around here. Yeah. But man, that first season, that was rough.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Samil, I heard the same Jessica turned on a roll in Chongchi because she was hopeful that the character would come back. I would love if that happens with everyone else coming back. Hayden Center 259 subs.
Starting point is 02:12:28 Thanks for all you do. You're welcome? Hayden. We inspired him to start a channel. Is it? 259 subs. Talk to that guy. Did we really? Yeah, that's what he claims.
Starting point is 02:12:39 Channels growing and growing. Decided to meet you all one day, hopefully. Hayden. Hayden I expect you to be at 400 subscribers by June 1st and if you are not there
Starting point is 02:12:51 maybe considering deleting the channel now don't know you're too young to take a joke don't do that don't do that don't put that keep going Greg should not teach should not be sarcastic about that you keep going
Starting point is 02:13:03 that's incredible man 259 is like that think about that in a room right I was really struggling because I work on all these channels that have these giant numbers and I have friends that have giant numbers on social media.
Starting point is 02:13:14 And whenever I look at my numbers, I'm always like, and I feel bad. But then I realize, I just hit 22,000 on my YouTube, and I realized that is a town. And that was insane. So when you look at what you've built, 259 people is an entire assembly room. Like, if you were standing on a stage,
Starting point is 02:13:30 looking out at 259 people, that is a huge room. So a huge congratulations, because that is something to be very proud of. That's like a torture room. Yeah. For like, you know. He hurt a lot of people.
Starting point is 02:13:40 Army people, you know. Yeah, just trap them. That brings me back to the days. I used to, like, count like, huh, looking 10 subscribers a day. So if we keep doing this, then we can get to 20 subscribers a day? I used to do that math all the time on the way back. I've been looking at my analytics.
Starting point is 02:14:01 I've been looking at, like, okay, I'm going to hit this by this and this by this if I can do this. So enjoy that run, man. Congratulations, Hayden. I'm proud of you. Mustafa's job. Thank you. If Spider-Man 4, Rami Mollick is happening. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:15 I'd love to see Old Man Parker fight Vulture's son. Wow, that'd be a leap. That'd be like, we're hip. Let's give it a Spider-Man 6. Yeah, yeah, I think you should fight Vulture first. Yeah, I think you should fight Vulture. Also, they're both, like, you know, older. Well, it would be interesting if he just kind of did his original Spider-Man 4 plan.
Starting point is 02:14:36 Because as much as I like me, Michael Keaton, in a good twist, he wasn't the vulture that we all kind of know the vulture to be. He was more like a green goblin vulture mix which I liked for the movie but we haven't seen Adrian Toombs. No, yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:54 I want like the crazy weird scientist bald vulture. It's funny. Adrian Tooms in the MCU is one of my favorite villains but he's also a great example of serving the story for the story. Like he's not Adrian Toombs
Starting point is 02:15:08 but that's kind of like what's it called um the if the silver server is a female if it's done well it's great like that's a perfect example of like the writing was good it's okay if you change your character so i'd love to see a more comicy vulture um it was supposed to be um john malcovich and it was supposed to be uh that's that's that's that screams the vulture i imagine and that would be still great yeah and then uh what's is an hathaway was going to be black cat before she was cat woman oh nice yeah she was destined for cat suits You know what?
Starting point is 02:15:41 I got a controversial opinion here. I think Anna Hathaway is hot. Is that controversial? She gets a lot of crap on the internet. She gets a lot of crap, but everybody gets a lot of crap. She's amazing. I think she's. I know.
Starting point is 02:15:50 Worked on two movies with her. Remember like the dart and I rises? The bike. Wow. That changed things. Forever. He's shook in you. We were vibing.
Starting point is 02:16:01 We hit that point in the history. I appreciate it. Hey, handsome fellas. Hey. How you doing? for Invincible Season 2 wasn't as intense as season 1. Do you think splitting the season in two parts
Starting point is 02:16:16 was a mistake? Should they pivot season 3 to keep the same relief structure? I think they should definitely not split it up. I didn't even hear it was back until like episode 3 of it be. Amazon is not the greatest at their marketing. Distributors.
Starting point is 02:16:31 And I feel like Invincible especially like I really loved this last season a lot. And I put it above the first season for me. I might not feel as complete, but I still ultimately put it about the first. And
Starting point is 02:16:45 it does feel like the conversation around it just kind of, people, we'll get released people. I remember that I'm part one too, like, Oh, Invincible's out. Yeah, it was like, all right. The people don't realize it's out. And half the comments are like, oh, this is out? Yeah, yeah. And
Starting point is 02:17:01 and the cliff, and it's like it's cliffhangers, like the cliffhanger season one is brilliant, right? You want to find And the cliffhangers are not as strong in like season four part one or even the cliffhanger for season two is not as strong as season one in terms of like the cliffhanger. That's not talking about its overall storytelling. And I do think that because of that reason, yeah, they shouldn't be splitting it up. They might as well just get them all done and then put them out.
Starting point is 02:17:30 I don't understand why. I really don't understand why they were trying because the show was so big. They were like, let's try a new model. It didn't work. And they keep changing their release times like Disney was doing the six, eight. M. Invincible was doing 5 p.m. Now they're back to midnight. And I'm like, guys, I want to sleep.
Starting point is 02:17:48 And we want to help you. I liked what you were doing before. Midnight X-Men was so hard. When they went to Loki at 6, I was like, thank you. I've been waiting years for this. And so much their marketing is people doing what we do. So it's like, be an asset for all of us. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:06 Ten to us. Take care of us. you take care of us we take care of the masks also x-men saturday morning it writes itself it writes itself what man yeah you freaking guys got it was right there all the nostalgia we could be eating cereal reacting i know this is your question iisha but jesus jesus um yeah so keep it as one season for season three keep it together and i and i i'm gonna catch up but yeah our videos still did well so i'm grateful for that no none of like season one views fair but they were still well uh someone asked in the chat girl crushes at the moment um my i'm gonna catch um girlfriend who was in the chat oh boy's girlfriend usually who was in the chat yeah definitely definitely there it is Greg's married yeah stuff a job I I hate Charlie Cox's daredevil beard thoughts I love it I think he looks great with it yeah I'm excited to see a different take I love his beard wait no he's got like a big beard no no like this double but in the comics he has a beard and I think it distinguishes runs the comics
Starting point is 02:19:07 well so I think I'm excited to see if they're going to do the stuff that that might reflect. I think it's a cool way to distinguish itself. I think the way how Charlie Cox is illustrated is so much more relatable than how when I read the comics where he's like, just a sexy blonde playboy.
Starting point is 02:19:25 Look at this hot priest. He's like so hot. Man, Andrew Scott would be a fun daredevil, like an alternate daredevil, Andrew Scott, hot priest. Andrew Tate. Oh, yeah. I mean, that guy's clearly relatable and charming. Brendan Jed Hey guys
Starting point is 02:19:40 I got a question for you Every live stream from here on out We're going to be asked about this And I can't wait to answer With a different take every time Ready What do you think Matt Shackman's plan is With the Fantastic 4
Starting point is 02:19:51 If it is a trilogy Including Team Up movies I feel like that's out of his hands I don't think that's really going to be I'm sure he has hopes And it's what they do I think they give a lot of these directors and creatives
Starting point is 02:20:02 Hopes And they say hey Create a big plan, but, you know, we're not going to honor it. You had like green goblin voice for a second. Spider-Man. I think, I'm hoping he's focusing just on the first movie
Starting point is 02:20:23 because of how much it's going to blend into Secret Wars and everything that, like, there's a 10-year plan always, but I think that Marvel's restructuring to focus on the, on the, soon right now. So I hope that it doesn't rely on a trilogy structure. I would like a trilogy, but, But I assume he's just focusing on getting them brought into the universe in a really comfortable way. And then we can worry about how cool it's going to be to see Joseph Quinn and Tom Holland.
Starting point is 02:20:44 But for now, focus up. Yeah, I do. I love Joseph Quinn. He is getting an award at CinemaCon. I'm hoping to talk to him a little bit about it. Oh, oh, good. Good. Is the award good internet connection for a stream at a hotel?
Starting point is 02:21:00 Yeah, the award is Best Zoom Connection for a show that stars Marvel characters at midnight. Congratulations, Cole. Your ranting has led you to an extra half hour today. Our ranting. Our ranting. Do you really think I ranted as much as you today? You were all about identity politics and how important it is that people be seen and representation for all. I want balls on my silver surfer.
Starting point is 02:21:30 What's that meme with the dude that like that guy sitting down on the bed and just like hanging hog? That'd be so funny if Silver River just had like. want to go back and swing and pipe i think i want to just create that argument online and and and have people think that i really believe that the silver surfer originally had balls we should come from a place of like deadpool's rated r i think there should be more rated our properties and silver surfer should get the dick and balls in the house i want to see his surfer fallically charged exactly the power cosmic um i don't know how that ever is my friend yeah name first time donating
Starting point is 02:22:08 I'm hoping I'm hoping FX Legion will come back I want to see a multiversal family John playing Deadpool 3 that is that one Legion is the one show in this comic book world
Starting point is 02:22:20 I have also been programmed to only watch comic book shows that are created linked to a bigger universe but I think I'd be like its own like invincible and it's like its own thing but like Legion is Marvel adjacent but I'm like
Starting point is 02:22:35 but it's not canon so Nobody's in it. I don't even watch the shit. Do I don't even watch it? But it's the one that I really want to watch. Yeah. Still, I'm like, I got to check this out. It's just...
Starting point is 02:22:46 Aubrey Plaza and, like, the performance. I've only seen the first season because I just got busy. Aubrey Plaza, I thought it was Amber Midthunder. In Legion? Yeah. Aubrey Plaza's in it. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:57 I thought it was Amber Midthunder. Maybe they're both in it. I'm 90% sure I'm thinking of the right show and it's Aubrey Plaza. Chad will tell us in no time. Chat, who's in, um, Is it Amber Midthunder or Aubrey Plaza? Also Castle Greystale, I love you
Starting point is 02:23:12 pitching Yaya as Silver Surfer so we can hang dong in a comic thing again. This is my first cinema con. But thank you for this being your first time contributing and yeah, I would love to go, I want to watch Legion and Multiversal Family Drama. That sounds like a great idea.
Starting point is 02:23:28 Also, it would be fun to have at least a cameo of them because I think there's going to be multiversal hopping in Deadpool, so this is a chance for them to come back, which is cool. Absolutely. Dan V-900. Dan B-900. I don't care. They're both in it.
Starting point is 02:23:42 Oh. I don't care for the Silver Surfer casting unless Galactus is Franklin with another universe. Hot tank. Galactus in the first film is still crazy. I love the Slot and Alrid Silver Surfer Roman Norn and Dawn. Give me that. I love that run too. But I think what's going to happen is Galactus is going to be maybe the reason they change multiverses.
Starting point is 02:24:05 Like, maybe they have to escape Galactus. So I think using Galactus narratively could be a fun device. I think you should save Doom as a Palpatine. So I like Galactus for the first villain personally. Because it's not like Galactus needs a lot of backstory. Galactus is like, I devout a world, what up? Like, I think he's a good first movie villain. I think he's a big presence.
Starting point is 02:24:23 I think it establishes a very different tone. I think it gives scope. Personally, I'm very excited for Galpatine. I think he should be the first villain. And Mr. Fantastic has to stretch his way from. Kills him, just like Marfan. the gen jenn jennaby jean great seeing you and wonder con hope to see you again soon of course jenn we love you she brought us snacks always bringing us snacks looking out for us i could use a gen right now yeah
Starting point is 02:24:49 gregg could use the blood sugar boost because he is hungry i am hungry i could eat anything that is not meat right to know i would love i would love a good snack Jen's always looking out for us. She is, like Comic-Con. I hung out with her the whole time. She showed us around town. She's great. She's freaking, she's amazing.
Starting point is 02:25:13 And she abides. Thank you, Jen, for being an amazing human being. Thank you, Jen. Frank, let me just confirm as the last one, Coy. Before you shit your pants, I have an enthusiasm for it. It happened before and it'll happen again. Everyone be quiet. Yep.
Starting point is 02:25:32 Everyone be quiet Everyone be quiet Ignore the weird screen on screen Things happening Here we are Pray was fire I should I totally agree Had made Iber plaza
Starting point is 02:25:43 Also had also had All right okay So here's we're gonna do We're gonna read the last stream lab Okay oh you told me to remind me about Marley By the way I will look up Marley Thank you
Starting point is 02:25:53 Thank you The last stream lab Is here From Jacob Neptune Cool name Been a while since hopped into a stream like the bunny I was so happy to be
Starting point is 02:26:06 here if they pivot to a doom do you think there would be gloom do you think we TV show about him coming to power in Latvaria and the MCU events are backdrop to his own story I'm picturing historical drama quality of a show oh my god I think if you did
Starting point is 02:26:22 this show you get Ridley Scott to direct it Joaquin Phoenix to play Dr. Doom you get something that is incredibly disappointing in the end I think a fun like 1800s period piece, but it's about very present, but set with that, like, the great tone would be amazing. I know
Starting point is 02:26:38 that speaking of Legion, Noah Hawley, the creator of the showrunner, Legion, had written a Doom movie before all the Fox rights went over to Marvel and it was going to be like an independent thing. I'd love to see something from Noah Hawley, maybe Longform as a show. I do think we could do Doom Longform. I don't know if they'd want to
Starting point is 02:26:54 with how Disney Plus is getting restructured. It does seem like to doing less Disney Plus, but I love the idea of a lot, various show, especially with the period piecey stuff you could play with. And Matt Coulton, I did watch the Deadpool musicals there made by a buddy of mine, Julian Higgins. So I actually was supposed to cameo on one of them, but schedules didn't align. So I have seen, he asked. Yeah, you know, it would be kind of, like they have that Wakanda show coming out.
Starting point is 02:27:15 And I think once you're developing these different communities and cities, oftentimes you do feel like you don't get to really spend time with them. And I think that would be an interesting gateway into actually feeling connected to some of these. And actually feeling like that Barry was a place. I do worry that if we're introducing things quickly, it'll be like, he's the ruler of Latvaria, and we visit it for 30 seconds. You know, it's like, there, okay, there was, how much I find, Gotham.
Starting point is 02:27:44 Gotham, not the show, but the, Gotham is the show, sure. But, like, part of Batman world, Gotham is a character. Right, very important. And oftentimes, I feel like that's what these properties are sort of missing. Like, that's what sort of excited me
Starting point is 02:27:58 about what Jameson said about Metropolis. Again, man. I can't describe Metropolis. I'm excited to. And I think when it comes to a lot of these cities and stuff, like, how many times we've been to Madrepoor? Once, twice? Was it just Falconer, a soldier?
Starting point is 02:28:15 Maybe. But I'm like, these places we go to should feel like a character in and of themselves. And that's what I'm essentially getting out with the prospect of Laveria. I was feeling like, oh, I really understand. The vibe here. The Doomer says Doom's backstory is really hard to translate two new moving parts. I think after Ironheart and I think after the Agatha show, it'll be easier because the witchcraft stuff with Doom's mom.
Starting point is 02:28:39 It's Doom is magic plus science. So I think you can actually get there. I think part of the reason that Agatha show exists is to help Doom's backstory. Hot take. Fair enough. Frank Alasio. Tears from Laredo, Texas, y'all. Much love.
Starting point is 02:28:57 I didn't think the inheritors will make an appearance on a Spider-R-Ber on Spider-Ree on Spider-Ree. Woo! Oh, man. And there goes our Texas audience forever. I've done it to leave my tooth again.
Starting point is 02:29:11 Oh, boy. I've been sorry to go from Texas and not one of them as Southern Texas. Yeah, I know a lot of people in Texas. They do not sound that way. So many people I never do.
Starting point is 02:29:21 It just went for the Appalachian 1800s. I think the inheritors might make a can I think it'd be kind of fun for the comic fans to get a Beyond the Spider-Verse Inheritor's moment because that is the Spider-Verse. But Spider-Verse is...
Starting point is 02:29:32 A billion a car! Yep, I do. I do, but I think the Spider-Verse has veered so far away from the comic. They don't need the inheritors. And I think the big thing is going to be man versus self. It's Miles versus Miles. It's Miles versus Miles without his lineage.
Starting point is 02:29:46 Like, I love that Spider-Man is with great power. There must also come great responsibility because his parents were Aunt May and Uncle Ben. He lost his father figure. I think it's a really interesting commentary to have what would Miles have been without his father because that's something we never really got to see to scale
Starting point is 02:30:00 with young Peter Parker. So I think Miles is a unique opportunity to tell a Spider-Man story we'll never see with Peter Parker. So I really hope they focus on that nature-nurture concept with his uncle Aaron and the loss of his dad and all that stuff. So I think that's going to be the focus for three and I think we might get some comic-y stuff
Starting point is 02:30:16 in their actual Spider-Man comic in the Beyond Spelters. Shut up, God. Just making stuff up. Uninformed. All right. Wait, I saw a couple of super stickers come in here. Yeah, there was a big one.
Starting point is 02:30:30 They're the end of the day. Super stickers. Oh, we look up Marley. Brady Thomas. Brady Thomas with the ultimate stickers. Thank you so much, my friend. You a sexy man, Brady Thomas. Sexy.
Starting point is 02:30:43 Who is Marley? What have we got? Marley Morgan. No, we did that. We did that one. I was told to remind you. We did get the retro future. We're not answering it again.
Starting point is 02:30:52 No, we covered it. But thank you. Guys, I had a great. time at this stream. I think it's so funny. I want someone to do a super cut of every time Greg does a live and he goes like, you always forget how much I like doing the lives. It's like that is the tradition. Greg doesn't do him for a month. He comes back and he goes, these are fun. That wasn't my tone right now. My tone was, um, I got a lie to this audience and make them think I enjoyed being here. Well, that might be always told. God damn, man. Texas. You don't shut up,
Starting point is 02:31:26 It's true. It's true. I'm just calling you out. You just keep talking. And I will. I guess it's where we are. That's why I'm here. Just trying to make this look slightly pretty as we end this.
Starting point is 02:31:39 This is what the whole time it looked like this. My mom stayed for like an hour and a half. Much love to my mom in the chat. She's got the same last name as me. So that's easy to find. I want to shout out my girlfriend who popped in. That was very sweet. Jacob Nettoon, RG 2888.
Starting point is 02:31:56 Oh, thank you, Dionne for giving us a super chat there. But, no, yeah, guys, the goal here, obviously so, is for Koi to do these more solo without us being here. And so we had John and me, we had you first and then John and then me. And we did one with me solo within Raking off sides. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So no, but the, but I think that, you know, Koi is obviously, he's always the star these live streams for a reason. Because he won't shut up and let him not be the star. Not by choice.
Starting point is 02:32:29 We're trying to get some of the spot life, but he is just like, I'm just going to turn this light towards me for a second. I can actually turn the camera a little bit. Yeah. It's been, but no, we just want, I feel like Koi's excellent at these. And I appreciate everyone who's been here. Really appreciate everyone who's been contributing to our super chats and stuff. You know, you guys contribute to your hard earned dollar. our way does mean a lot.
Starting point is 02:32:57 And we hope that we bring some level of value to you guys, even if it's a moment of entertainment or escapism or something like that. Thank you. Helps to keep the lights on. It helps us support people like Koi especially. You know, because he constantly is begging for more. Scraps.
Starting point is 02:33:13 I come to Greg's house, a little bowl. He's like, please, Mr. Greg. And he's like, back in the shit. Take the oranges and go in the shit. It's like a real barbarians. It's really intense. Yeah. No, I only can wear a real reject shirts in the property, and there's a shed with whipping. So I appreciate you guys being live so you can see that Greg doesn't abuse me, and he's being nice before we leave, so the torment can begin.
Starting point is 02:33:35 Yeah, but thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you, Koi, for rocking it as always. Thank you for asking for Koi's comment cornerback, you guys wanting it. We always talk about, like, leave a comment if you want more of the show. You guys are the reasons coming back, so thank you, and that'll be dropping soon. And seriously, thank you for supporting us and helping us to keep cultivating a more positive community. You know, sometimes we touch on subjects that we know create a discourse online. At the same time, I see in the chat that generally it's a pretty reasonable chat.
Starting point is 02:34:04 I hate to pick favorites. This is my favorite live chat. Like, I think this was the best, like, community. We talked about things that can be, you know, cantankerous. You guys were great. So, I mean, even if you disagree, you were always polite in it and well informed. So I appreciate that. Now it's you and I.
Starting point is 02:34:20 Flex off at the end. you got the grievous coming in coy it's coming in but like it's crazy how vascular you are while still having size whereas i'm like just bulk right now which is okay but when you're just sitting you look buff and i'm like you look all right Craig then i got to like do the whole thing you know is how coin i got like 30 pounds on you like i have a decent amount of just mass coy and i do every in every stream just got to we got to flex off our progress real heterosexual radio stream Covered the
Starting point is 02:34:54 Roadhouse Anyway See you guys I totally forgot How to end a stream Oh that's gonna be good It's been a long time There's been a post credit scene
Starting point is 02:35:04 I think I hit these two buttons The files are inside the computer This is not gonna end smoothly Just Prepare yourself It's just gonna cut off randomly Because I'm gonna be hitting buttons I can't wait for the rewatch audience
Starting point is 02:35:15 To find us flailing Thank you guys

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