The Reel Rejects - SIN CITY (2005) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:42 And if you're listening on Apple or Spotify, please give us five-star ratings. We would really appreciate it. Aaron, my good friend, my roomie. How are you feeling? That was definitely an experience. Uh-huh. That was definitely an experience. But a good one, nonetheless, a unique.

Starting point is 00:02:00 unique one to say the least. Yeah. That was a very interesting. First of all, I want to say that I think that the dialogue in this movie was incredible. I think it's utilization of color and negative space was done very stylistically, but I think it used it in a way that was to aid the story. I'll always like when a story is able to use its senses to illustrate its point you know it did it with its dialogue with the visual capture visually capturing all of the senses but also you know using color and lack thereof to to hit home some of these things

Starting point is 00:02:45 that they were doing i think it was a really cool way to bring a comic book to life i don't know if it's one to one if they kind of took panel for panel but you definitely feel frank miller's essence all throughout this movie all the performances are really great i like the way that they were able to make them look kind of more more heightened in their visual presentation with mickey roark and then with benicio del toro and the action was really good and really unique in the sense that it was sometimes it was really exaggerated but you know in the sense where it was part of this heightened world and yeah i'm still a little confused on the some parts mainly the the Josh

Starting point is 00:03:29 Hartnett part right and like okay how is that relevant to the beginning and I get it it was like this thing to like button and the story and also I'm curious as to why the story was nonlinear but I think it was cool being able to see the stuff that was

Starting point is 00:03:44 set up earlier in the movie that you didn't see yet like okay like Mickey Roark is here at the end which means this happened at the beginning so both the beginning of the movie with Bruce Willis and the end of the Bruce Willis stuff happened before way before the stuff with Mickey Rourke and the stuff with Mickey Rourke happened before the stuff with the Clive Owen so I'm I want to know more about the production of this movie and why they did it

Starting point is 00:04:09 that way but yeah I I enjoyed it I really did a lot of oh my god moments a lot of wild moments I had an array of emotions watching this film but I can genuinely say that I had a good time it was a unique experience and yeah there'll definitely be sequences of this movie i'll watch again in the future yeah man how'd you feel i feel great i really enjoyed it and like what you just said in terms of there were sequences of this film i will definitely watch definitely not the toilet sequences but yeah yeah i again i thought this was visually exquisite to watch i really love how stylized it was i thought again just having the backdrop and pretty much everything rather being black and white and then having certain things being

Starting point is 00:04:58 colored whether it was i mean obviously red was the prevalent thing you know to just symbolize i feel like it was symbolizing just blood in general but uh again i just i really love that style because it's just not something we're used to see or you know not not at this point in time anyways but i thought it was very unique and just fun to watch visually even if the story was not there and the characters were not there. I thought, like, visually, it was just, it was enticing and just riveting to stare at, if anything. Having said all that, I think you made an incredible point earlier on in regards to, yes, it was nonlinear storytelling, but as you were talking about during the reaction, that really stood out to me. I like how all three of the, I'm not even

Starting point is 00:05:41 talking about the Josh Arnett story. I'm talking about the three main storylines that we segued throughout with Bruce Willis, with Mickey Rourke, and with Clive Owen. I like how we had all three of these characters who were helping out women who had been wronged. Yeah. I like how we were sticking with that theme. Like those are characters like I can connect with and like because I don't preferably. And again, they didn't feel like I wouldn't even call. Obviously you got an 11 year old girl.

Starting point is 00:06:06 So I'm not going to call her a damsel in distress. It's just an 11 year old girl who needs help. And then you got the character of I'm trying to think in the Mickey Roark situation. You had Goldie, but her sister's a badass. So again, I'm not going to call her a down. in distress. And then in the third situation with Clive Owen, Gail, again, and all those other women are badasses themselves. So these are very capable women and they're badasses. But again, I like male characters that, again, are here for the cause and how in terms of they're here

Starting point is 00:06:40 to help women who are in danger, but also women who can defend themselves at the same time. But I like, again, women who have been wronged is kind of what I'm trying to get at. I like that we were following along with that and like you said i like that the stories even though they were told non-linear i love non-linear storytelling if it's executed right and for the most part i thought this was really well executed other films that just come to mind that i can think of usually it's christopher nolan just he likes to play around with non-linear storytelling whether it's memento batman begins if you do it right it it services the story if you do it wrong it can just mess around with the story big time so i thought it was really done it was really well executed because

Starting point is 00:07:19 there were times where I'm like again in the moment of the film again for first time like wait was this going to segue and cross over into the other ones for the most part I thought it was after the film was finished and as it was like as it was assembling I thought I was like okay I can see where they're going with this and how it's how the connective tissue is working like when we saw Mickey Rourke in the bar and Bruce Wilson passing through them I did forget Aaron remind me I know you said that Jessica Alba or Nancy rather went to him I just again so much happened and sometimes in first time watches sometimes i forget things you have the remote because i'm pretty sure he goes to her when she's older you can keep talking

Starting point is 00:07:58 i'll just kind of like yeah i'm just i was just trying to remember like i remember she went to him i just don't remember you said she needed help for i think that he said that he helped her at some point in the past and the reason i remember her being old is because i was like is jessica i'll be like wearing like a chess piece or something because i remember like her her chest being kind I just remember she was in the scene. I just remember she was in the scene with Mickey Roark. I just don't remember the specifics because so much was going on. But, yeah, I was just trying to remember, like, as we, again, that was a great twist, by the way.

Starting point is 00:08:32 I did not, I don't know if you'd call that twist, but whatever. It was a great reveal. How's that? I like the reveal that Nancy ended up being Jessica Alba, because, again, we had seen her previously a couple of times up to that point. And then same thing with Nick Stahl's character, rather. and yeah I also too

Starting point is 00:08:50 this is one of the best cast I think I've ever seen in a film and I like how he but I like how each cast member is like I don't care that I'm going to get limited amount of screen time I'm going to be very effective in the scenes that I'm going to have right so I was I thought that was yeah I thought it was wonderful no no I thought it was really good

Starting point is 00:09:06 I'm currently skimming back to find the scene with Jessica Alba because I remember him being her I'm having a scene together Did you have a particular, just curious, did you have a particular of the three male characters that we were with that stood out? Mickey Rourke. That was kind of thing. I loved all three of them,

Starting point is 00:09:25 honestly, but I think we spent the most time with Mickey Rourke too. I feel like it. Yeah. But it was just so unexpected. Like, again, I haven't seen a ton of Mickey Rourke films.

Starting point is 00:09:36 I've seen the wrestler, which I love. I don't know if you've seen that movie. No. But, oh, is this the Jessica Alba scene? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:42 Okay. Really quickly. Let's just see it. I'm just curious what happens. happened again you turn it out yeah oh and they even said nancy oh yeah yeah wow can't believe we put it together letting us know early yeah we just didn't put it together yeah do we learn her name was nancy in the first part the kid when she was a kid i don't remember oh either way yeah either way great great job letting us know right here he's in us yeah i like what but see that i think this is a movie too

Starting point is 00:10:32 that it's fun when you when you watch on repeat you pick up you're for sure you're for sure going to pick up on new things and nuances too that you didn't see the first couple times i actually just did a reaction previous to this. Not going to say which, because I don't know which one's going to be released. But I had seen that film many times. I'm like, oh, I'm picking up so many things that I've never noticed and seen. I love movies that are rewatchable when you can pick up new things like that. Yeah, same.

Starting point is 00:10:58 And I feel like this is definitely one you would get a lot of mileage on going forward. One of the things that I noticed the first time around is that when we, I think when we're following Clive Owen's character and he left the city, like the A was kind of like marked up on the Basson City, but when Bruce Wallace went out of the city, it was like a brand new sign. Oh, so that means it was before that then, right?

Starting point is 00:11:21 Exactly. Got it. Okay, I'm glad. I did not notice that was a good catch. Also, just on this frame right here, I'm glad I did not see this frame before we press play. I just kind of press player, hit the restart button, but I'm glad I did not notice because I might have picked apart two and two together when they said eight years later and we had not

Starting point is 00:11:37 seen them together. I might have said that I did see it. Oh, you did? I'm glad. I was still confused. I don't know how this plays into it. I don't know who she is. I didn't notice the yellow though. Yeah. Well, I'm glad I, if I did notice, I'm glad I immediately forgot. Because again, there's so much information thrown at you. I'm thinking too that Robert Rodriguez, Frank Miller, and also special guest director, Quentin Tarantino. We're expecting, we're going to be throwing so much information at you for a first time watch. You're even going to hear the name Nancy with the scene with Mickey Rourke's character, I'm with Marv, rather, that you're probably going to. not even process or register that so yeah and you have to imagine this is 2005 yeah people have never seen a movie like this before yeah a movie now not only this faithful and this um much embracing the the the comic bookiness of this but also a film told uh not even non a linear

Starting point is 00:12:34 because we've had those before but you know the the the popiness of it with the makeup with the with colors like something like this is not something you see very frequently so i also love to held pretty high yeah totally agree i also love too the city itself feels like a character it really feels so lived in and also it feels so grimy and gritty and dirty in some of a place you would never want to live unless you're you have the the superhero powers type as like a marv or as bruce wills or a clive owen or you were as badass as one of these women but you would never want to live there. You'd want to watch it on screen, but you'd never want to live there. But again, it was a very breathable living type of character, and I love when films can

Starting point is 00:13:17 really achieve that accessibility as a whole in terms of making something feel alive. It's like kind of, again, just using an example like Predator, really made the jungle feel alive in that film. And same thing here. And also, too, I think in the Batman films, whether it's Matt Reeves or Christopher Nolan's or even the first Tim Burton Batman 89, they really do a good job making the city feel so alive and lived in. Yeah. Do you want to guess what they got in Ron Tomatoes? Oh, you're doing this for me this time. Okay. Actually, yeah, I like being on this end once in a while. So Sin City, we'll do the critics first. I will go for, let's go with 78% on the critics. Rejection. Summer's coming up fast. Which means we've got beach days, hikes. Maybe one or

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Starting point is 00:16:54 78. You're very close, my friend, 76. How do I always get so? There's always like one or two off. Yeah, watch now. be so off on the eye and so I said 78 it was 76 audience I'm going to go 87% wow you said 87% yeah 78% really yeah so I just flipped it oh I'm surprised I thought that would be a little bit higher with the audience okay cool yeah I don't know but okay you did a good job though

Starting point is 00:17:25 not bad not bad I'm gonna look up some trivia before I do that really quick I want to do just before we get into the trivia at all. I just want you to guess what do you think the budget of this film was? Ooh, good question. Sin City budget. $100 million.

Starting point is 00:17:45 Is that your final answer? Yes. $40 million. What? Again, that's back in 2005. True. Not adjusted for inflation. Okay, Sin City box office, we're going worldwide. We are combining domestic and international.

Starting point is 00:18:01 Worldwide 100 million 100 million 158 million 7333,820 dang it You weren't too far off honestly

Starting point is 00:18:14 It was a lot A little 50 million Yeah Okay really quick Let's do a little trivia I'm actually not going to do the spoilers

Starting point is 00:18:21 In case it spoils anything from the second movie So we'll just stick on everything but we'll just do a couple except for spoilers Okay Cool Because of the way the movie was shot

Starting point is 00:18:30 Mickey Rourke who plays Marvin, Elijah Wood, who plays Kevin, never met until after the film was released. What?

Starting point is 00:18:38 Interesting. Not because they have a scene where they're clearly together and saying, good dog. But I guess because you don't see them in frame together,

Starting point is 00:18:45 yeah? It was just shot at separate time. So I could understand that, I guess. Oh, fascinating. It's cut it, yeah,

Starting point is 00:18:51 the power of moviemaking. By the way, I got to also say, too, we didn't mention, we mentioned how the women were such badasses in this.

Starting point is 00:18:58 I loved, what was her name, Mijo? Mio didn't have a line of dialogue and I was obsessed with her character She was such a badass Yeah, now that Elijah wouldn't He was creepy as hell

Starting point is 00:19:08 Oh yeah, Elijah didn't either have a line of dialogue That's true Good point The swords used by Mijo Devin Ayoki is that her name Devin Aoki She wasn't too vast too furious, Sukki Good job

Starting point is 00:19:20 In this movie are the same ones used By some of the Crazy 88 In Kill Bill Volume 1 The movie's director Quinn Tarantino Had been keeping them In the back of his garage Oh, wow. That's cool.

Starting point is 00:19:32 Cool detail. Good to know. Robert Rodriguez has said that he does not consider this movie to be an adaptation so much as a translation. Interesting. Excuse me. This is why there is no screenwriting in the credits. The only mention of writing is Frank Miller as the creator of the graphic novels. Hmm.

Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah, I guess it's word for word. That's pretty cool. Yeah, Greg did tell me originally, again, I've obviously, we have never read the Sin City graphic novels, but he said, other than the opening scene, I think, with Josh Arnett, said the rest of it is like, it's one to one pretty much the whole thing. Wow. That's what I was told. Luckily, again, I had not read so I didn't know what was coming.

Starting point is 00:20:12 Originally, Robert Rodriguez didn't plan for Benicio del Toro to wear makeup, but Del Toro insisted on it. Tarantino later commended the makeup being so good that people actually forget. That's not what Benicio looks like. Again, the first two or three minutes, I'm like, who the hell is this? Yeah. I thought it was a different dude entirely. Yeah, and then the only reason I knew was Benicio del Toro

Starting point is 00:20:33 is because at the beginning of the credits, they said Benicio del Toro. And I was like, oh, she, it's Benicio del Toro. I, like, the voice, the makeup, I never would have. I thought it was like Jermaine Clemens or something. I was thinking it was Michael. I think it's called Wincott or something from the bad guy from the crow.

Starting point is 00:20:51 I forgot his last name, but I thought that was from the way his voice was coming off. It really did sound like doll. I forgot his name. and I'm such a, I'm such a huge fan. Another great crown noir, the crow. Yeah, yeah, no, it's very stylized like this film, for sure. I would imagine there was some inspiration. I've got to imagine a little inspiration from the crow, right?

Starting point is 00:21:09 Probably. Just old serials and stuff. Yeah, for sure. Guest director, Quentin Tarantino, directed the scene involving Dwight and Jackie Boy in the front of the car before Dwight is pulled over by a police officer. Hmm. Interesting.

Starting point is 00:21:27 That would imagine, I would have thought there was a scene where someone was, you know, with toes in their mouth. I would have thought that'd be a grandparentianism. Cool to know that. That was the scene. Cool. I like that. Yeah, a good scene. But all the other actors are like, damn it, why couldn't it be our scene?

Starting point is 00:21:43 Despite appearing in all three of the major stories, Brittany Murphy filmed all of her scenes in one day. That's right. Brittany's seen what? Brittany Murphy was involved in all three stories. Yeah, she was. Damn, I didn't even put that together. I'm glad I'm reading that. this now. According to an interview with

Starting point is 00:21:59 Latino Review, Michael Madsen landed the role of Bob by approaching Robert Rodriguez at the Kill Bill rap party and simply asked why he hadn't been cast in this film. Rodriguez obliged, giving Madsen the only part that hadn't been cast yet. Bob.

Starting point is 00:22:15 Well, hell of yeah. Hey, if you want to get a role, ask for it, I guess. Just do like two more. The scene in which Marv climbs out of the manhole and staggers up, against a wall was acted out in reverse then shown forwards to give an otherworldly appearance to marv oh fascinating cool i like that while the three stories in the movie were based on the hard

Starting point is 00:22:42 goodbye the big fat kill and that yellow bastard as well as the short the customer is always right there is a very brief scene taken from the story a dame to kill for in which dwight played by clive owen in a voiceover in Caddy's Bar, or Katie's Bar, rather, how Marv would have been okay if he would have, if he, if he'd been born a couple of centuries earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Interesting. That's from a different thing entirely. Wow. Last one. According to Robert Rodriguez's commentary, the scouraging sequence between Yellow Bastard and Nancy was originally shot faithful to the comic book considerably longer and more graphic than what appears in the final cut or the extended edition

Starting point is 00:23:28 Rodriguez stated that the torture segment was crossing the bounds of bad taste even for Sin City. Oh, wow. I'm curious how far extra they went. It did already seem like we were already like he's so sadistic and disgusting so I'm sure that they shot something

Starting point is 00:23:45 even more grotesque than what they had there so I can only imagine. You know what? It was my mind and imagination was already going places I didn't even want to see visually so I'm glad we got what we got to be honest. I was good with it. You got the job done.

Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah. Anyways, any final thoughts here? No. No, I thought it was a really interesting and cool time. I'm glad, you know, we can see purity and artistic vision. And hopefully you guys like this and we can watch the second one. Well, put my roommate, I agree with you. I don't, I haven't heard the best word of mouth from Sin City, a dame to kill for.

Starting point is 00:24:22 Is that what's called? A dame to kill for. I don't care. I like the judge movies on. my own merits so i would still after watching this one i would still love to watch the second one also at some point in time maybe a year after this one comes out because we i don't believe we watch the extended edition i would love we could check out again in a year's time check out the extended edition to see what the differences are that'd be fun but yeah let us know in the comments

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The Reel Rejects - SIN CITY (2005) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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