The Reel Rejects - SMILE 2 (2024) IS EVEN CRAZIER!! MOVIE REACTION! First Time Watching

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Starting point is 00:01:08 getting to meet the men, women, and children in person. Tara, I believe something is coming up on the 29th of this month. WonderCon! WonderCon! Oh my God, that's right. WonderCon. Run by the same people who do Comic-Con, so it seems like it might be a pretty big event. Real Rejects is going to be there.

Starting point is 00:01:25 Late afternoon, early evening. They did give a time, but that tends to change. but it usually hovers around the same time frame. So I'm saying late afternoon, early evening. Come say hi. At this point, all the rejects are scheduled to go. And some don't even know that yet. But you guys know before some of they do.

Starting point is 00:01:40 It's their job. They have to be there or else they're out of here. They get fired. You get the boots. You get the boots. You don't show up to WandaCon. You get fired. You're not going to get that pipe check.

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Starting point is 00:02:31 top my director list. Dude, you know what that... Can I tell you what the craziest thing ever is? It is wild to me that this movie this movie did exactly what last movie did which is they pretend

Starting point is 00:02:47 that the ending is one thing and then it's another thing. Remember the last one we saw her go to his apartment and be like, can I just spend the night here but then really he was at the cabin. Exactly. This did the exact same thing and I still got fooled. Yep.

Starting point is 00:03:01 They were like, oh, no, we pretended that one thing happened, but really, she was at her show. And I was like, no, she's not at her show. And they were like, we literally told you last time that's what happened. And I still got fooled. Right. I know.

Starting point is 00:03:11 Man, okay, we got a lot to break down. We got a lot to. No, you guessed it. I did. Well, yeah, I did at the end, but yeah. Oh, God. Guys, okay. We just watched Smile 2.

Starting point is 00:03:21 If you guys want to be the rejects of all rejects, reject nation shop.com. Don't forget to get your gear today. If you're on Apple Spotify, don't forget five stars, thumbs up. If you're on YouTube, we want to hear from you guys. Leave a comment and follow us everywhere at Real Rejects. Okay, Tara. I know.

Starting point is 00:03:42 Bro. I don't know. Let's start with this. Just gut instinct. Did you prefer the first smile or the second smile? I prefer the second one. This one, I still think that that first one or shot really got. got me. I felt, I mean, I love that. In this one specifically. He did, he was obviously a fan of

Starting point is 00:04:04 longchance, but I think with a bigger budget you can pull off more. He did a lot here. And I was, I mean, that's a hard question because the first one was also really, really, really great. But I just think that she did such an amazing job. So with the cast and just the idea of it. and the direction and the special effects. Obviously, they had a bigger budget for those. Some of them were obviously very practical. And the other ones were just great special effects. Wow, oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:04:40 Like, there wasn't one person in here who was a weak actor. But I didn't believe that in the first one either. I know. She just, she did blow it out of the water. She blew it out of the water. She did a great job. I mean, her performance really deserves to be nominated for an Academy Award. No joke.

Starting point is 00:04:53 Like, absolutely no joke. I mean, this is one of the most incredible performances of 2024 that I've seen and such a challenging role. Can we go back to the movie and watch the closing credits? I feel like it, I just want to make sure there's no... For some reason, it went... It went to like the making of or behind the scenes, so I want to go back to that. See, it goes...

Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, this is the making of... It's a different thing, so let me see. Let's see if we can go back if we go down to this bottom one. Man, oh man, dude, holy moly, guacamole. That movie was so good. I'm kind of torn on whether I prefer. the first to the second. But I think the second I like better,

Starting point is 00:05:32 but it might just be recency bias because I loved both of these so much. Man, it's like, mostly I wanted to come back to this because I wanted to listen to the songs. Yeah. How good was, I always got it. How good was the music in this?

Starting point is 00:05:49 Oh, so good. Man, and if it's actually OG songs, like, wow, wow, loved the whole thing. And what I really want is a whole entire cut of the song of her Acapella on the piano. That's my jam right there. Ray Nicholson. He was always so nice in school.

Starting point is 00:06:08 Really? Yeah, that's good. I'm stoked for him. That's awesome. I haven't seen him in anything. Me neither. And we went to college together 14, 13 years ago. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:19 It's a long time at this point. That's so awesome. Yeah, I want to see about the music. I'm so excited to look up some trivia stuff. Before we get to any of that, did you feel like, not just the actress, because we obviously know that Naomi did a great job, but the character, how did you feel about her this time? Like, did you like her? Did you hate her? She was a really interesting lead because they show us that even prior to this, she was an addict, she, it's like kind of manslaughter against her ex.

Starting point is 00:06:53 Right. Not premeditated, but she does pull the car into things. thing. She's got tough relationships. She pissed off her best friend. She has no other friends. How'd you feel about her? Yeah, it's funny that you asked that because this movie does a good job of not throwing us too far into the arena of hating her as our main character because then we wouldn't get really far. We'd be like, yeah, whatever, the demons got you by bitch. But like, we don't feel that way. And I think because it sets it up so quickly that we, We see her in recovery.

Starting point is 00:07:30 We see her dancing. She's still in pain. We see, we're not quite sure how all of this stuff happened. And then she's obviously going to the guy for help. And that's how it attaches to her. So it's sort of an innocent way of attaching to her. She wasn't necessarily going there to get high. She just was like, I need help.

Starting point is 00:07:46 People are counting on me. So it's like she's going there for an altruistic kind of thing, not to go back to her old ways. But there wasn't a ton about her that I adored. I wasn't like, oh, I really like this girl. Right, yeah. But I wasn't as aware of that thinking in watching this movie until you asked me that, right? I was just sort of like, she's about to get effed.

Starting point is 00:08:14 Right. As opposed to the first protagonist who we found out was orphaned, parents left, you know, like it was kind of a more sympathetic character at times. I agree with you. But I thought that this made for a really interesting twist. Although, we did hit in this movie almost all of the same beats. So like in the last movie, when she goes to the birthday party at her sisters with the kids. Here, it's on stage for the children, for the inspiration. Same thing like I talked about towards the end.

Starting point is 00:08:46 But just all of the same exact emotional beats, it was almost the same script, but completely different characters. Yeah. So that's why it's like unbelievable to me that I love this as much as I did because when you think about it, when you think about like... They're playing the same game. Yeah. You know. And the same thing we're like a little more than midway through. There's somebody, you find somebody last time it was in the jail here.

Starting point is 00:09:10 It's with the brother. Yeah. It helps you. Right. Which is wild. Same thing. In the last one, we, she thinks that she's talking to the therapist and we find out she was never talking. The therapist wasn't there.

Starting point is 00:09:23 Right. And this one, she thought she was trying to Gemma. We find out Jemma was not there. So it's like, it really, in a lot of ways, as different of a movie as it felt, it really was a very similar movie, which is why comparing them, I'm like, I just loved them both so much.

Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah. It's fun when you're, like, when you bring it up in the comparisons of like the blueprint of the script would almost be the same. And you would feel like maybe as a director, writer, you're like, but I'm pulling a lot from like, what we already did, this is the same game that we're playing in the second one, but it's still so different.

Starting point is 00:10:01 It's so different story and the characters and where the plot goes, the music. The way it looked, the way it was shot. Exactly. It just gave it new life. It's kind of like if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah, I agree. Oh, you guys loved this first one. Cool.

Starting point is 00:10:14 We're going to just make it a little different. So you're going to love this again. I like that they didn't try to be like, this time, they're going to solve the case. It's going to be the hero of all heroes. this is good like they literally were just like you know what this is a vicious demon and definitely there is a lot of um there's an allegory for addiction which here is less than an allegory more in your face right see it but also for mental illness specifically schizophrenia and manic depressive disorder where like you're seeing all that and in the last one um we see that as well so they they really do a great job of just knowing what these movies are are and being like now let's just show it to you in a different person of course it hits the same beat it's the same demon you know like right yeah I just think that that's so interesting most of the movies because we've been doing so many franchises most of the movies we see like they borrow from

Starting point is 00:11:10 rocky right rocky one and two endings completely different yeah you know like uh no spoilers for anybody but just like if one thing's going to happen in the first one something completely different's going to end the second one right this one was like thinking that we would think that way. And I was like, no, it's the same sequence of events. If they do do a third one, I bet they'll switch it up a little more. Right. But for this, I just am like, wow, kudos to you, Parker, Finn.

Starting point is 00:11:36 I agree. Because it's like when an artist, you know, when they're like, they put out bangers and everybody loves them. And they're like, I'm going to switch it up and do like slow in your face, like acoustic. And then everyone's like, what? Like, no, they don't want it. We like the first. we liked the two out the first great albums that you did we liked them and now the switch up is weird for us so it's it's almost like that right we're not going to switch it up too much because

Starting point is 00:12:04 we still want to see a lot of that the smile and demon aspect but enough to get us hooked like this is a completely separate different completely different film it's such a different feel during it yeah yeah so it's interesting what he did I feel like it should be studied but yeah Okay, let me try to look up some stuff for you right now. Especially with the concert, like the idea of it's really fun to put us in that point of view of someone very famous and she has to like kind of a diva, she's dancing, all these songs. So it's when we see her in that environment, it's so different than what we saw, the everyday kind of life in the first one. This one is, it's not an everyday person. So when we move through her life, when she is infected with the demon, it is oh so different than anyone else that has come before because she's so much in the spotlight, which I think will lead us.

Starting point is 00:13:06 It will definitely give this movie somewhere to go because now there are thousands of people that saw her freaking kill herself of the microphone in her eye. Oh, my God. That's very different. Oh, yeah. Like, where do we go? Are they all infected? The whole freaking crowd. I don't think it can go into everyone.

Starting point is 00:13:28 I think it goes in one person, but I don't know. We don't know. We don't know. That is a wild twist. That's a really good point for Smile 3. Reject Nation, I currently am on a very specific macro plan. Calories, fat, carbs, protein, you know the goods. And what's very fortunate for me,

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Starting point is 00:15:16 Rejects. Fuel your body right, even on the go. Hopefully, you love it just as much as I do. Parker Finn, I'm so sorry I forgot your name. It won't happen again because I think that you are an absolute brilliant writer-director. It's just such a grip on these movies, which is so cool. Man, I'm loving this franchise. Okay, so what can I tell you? Seriously, I think that she should have been nominated. That's, it's crazy that horror movies don't get as much love. Substance. I'm so glad to see what it's doing right now. Here we go. Ensuring the sequel was different from its predecessor meant giving the film a unique look. Parker Finn wanted to depict a glamy, shiny, very fun pop stars world, but also make it feel very cold, frigid, threatening, and almost alien. This meant avoiding the usual horror settings of cold, creepy basements, and shadowy addicts.

Starting point is 00:16:05 Finn said he wanted to find fear, dread, and unease in an unexpected environment. Yeah. That's exactly what we were just talking about. Yeah, exactly. He made it different by making it look different, different place, different persons. Celebrity, high class, pretty, marble freaking countertops. Everything's like clean, organized, like nice, high class, rich, like, not like, oh, we're over here. It's like, yeah, totally, totally different.

Starting point is 00:16:31 The line, this is going to ruin the tour, was actually a joke that was set on set, which director, writer, Parker Finn, wrote into the script. Yeah, I love it. It's funny. That's great. It's great. Okay. We know this. Kyle Gowler is the only actor to reprise his role from the first.

Starting point is 00:16:46 first film. You'll look at this. He did, yep. Naomi Scott said she modeled Sky Riley after Lady Gaga. I think I mentioned that earlier. Yeah, you did. Furthermore, when she's scrolling through her contacts to Gemma's, you can see Gaga above. That's cool.

Starting point is 00:17:02 That's funny. I love that. The scar on Sky's knees in the shape of a smile. Parker Finn told bloody disgusting that he did consider, albeit very briefly, making Joel the lead. I'm glad that he didn't. I really liked that character, too, but. Yeah. Just the jarringness of seeing him get hit by the car.

Starting point is 00:17:19 I agree. It's wild. Yeah. For Drew Barrymore's cameo, I'm excited to read what this is. This is a long, so stick with me. Parker Finn explained that the idea came about as part of an effort to conjure what he referenced to as credibility for the story's lead character. When the audience met meet Sky Riley at the start of the story, we were meant to recognize her as an established world-renowned star. That's something you can simply sell by having her be interviewed by a well-known real-world talk show host.

Starting point is 00:17:45 in Finn's words, I really, in building this pop star of Sky Riley, played by Naomi Scott, wanted to lend credibility to the character and sort of blur the lines between reality and fiction, make her feel almost like she existed in our world. And so I had this idea of introducing her on a talk show, but I was like, I want to do a real talk show. Drew Barrymore had been hosting Drew Barrymore show since 2020, and Parker Finn said he wrote the early scene with her in mind. He wrote to her, including the script pages, hoping that she might take the part. and he was delighted to get a yes. The writer-director continued, I love Drew Barrymore, and I wrote the scene, and then I sent it to her, and I also wrote a letter to her, and she was so gracious and said yes,

Starting point is 00:18:26 and it was such a, like, fun dream to get to work with her and to do that. That's amazing. It also really grounds the world. It makes it very grounded, because it's, like, I mean, you heard me say it. Like, they got Drew Barrymore for this. So it's, like, in seeing that interview,

Starting point is 00:18:41 because you could go to other horrors where they set them up, where it's like kind of a no-name reporter and then her interviewing her, we're trying to make her seem like a pop star. Yes. But I do believe that in going to an actual celebrity, making it feel very realistic,

Starting point is 00:18:57 adds just so much more to the experience and the film in general. A number of the in-universe songs by Sky Riley were released on iTunes. Hey, yeah. You want to go listen? Heck yeah. Brief glimpses of Sky's phone contacts

Starting point is 00:19:12 include Adele, Beyonce, Doja Cat, and Lady Gaga. Love it. That's funny. Writer and director Parker Finn cast Ray Nicholson as Paul in homage to his famous father

Starting point is 00:19:21 Jack Nicholson's memorable role in Stephen King's A Shining. I won't, I'm not just saying this, I think he did a great job. Yeah, he did. In that car scene?

Starting point is 00:19:30 Awesome. He did such a good job. Yeah. Naomi Scott co-wrote several of Sky Riley's songs with producer Alexis Ida Rose Kesselman. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:19:40 That's cool. That's very awesome. Because the film centers around Sky's comeback tour, a lot of fans have joked about the entity's hauntings by applying Justin Timberlake's infamous response to a DUI, this is going to ruin the tour, often followed by Skies Defiant fuck the tour. That is what allegedly he said.

Starting point is 00:20:01 Really? You've never heard that? No. Didn't know that. When he got the DUI, that's what he said. This is going to ruin the tour. All right, J.T. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:10 Parker Finn said he did not write the role of Paul with Ray Nichols in a mind. he says the connection ended up being a wonderful kismet that worked in their favor cool uh wow that's interesting the um is do you know kismit i thought kismit was a yush word you know it's not a yuish word like kismet like pha no i know i know exactly it is i just thought it was a jewish word which i don't think fin is but it maybe it's not a jewish word no i don't think so kismat yeah yeah yeah you know when you think something something and then like growing up i thought kohonis was uh jewish word i don't know I know, that's so funny. Yeah, it's so funny.

Starting point is 00:20:47 I was just like, wow, he said Kismet. The opening scene for Smile 2 was filmed like a one-shot sequence, as we know. We know it. But was, in fact, several takes, digitally stitched together. They did a great job with that. They did a great job. They did that in the car, too. Kyle Gowler performed his own stunts for that sequence.

Starting point is 00:21:04 Really? That was great. Wow, they did. That's awesome. That's some really good stitch in there. and I know they also had to stitch the shot in the car going back and forth, meaning you're on her, you have to then, in between every line, you're going to have to swipe away.

Starting point is 00:21:22 There's no way that an R.E. fits in there and picks him up, right? So you have to, like, stitch that in, and it looked awesome for them to go back and forth. Really good. I'm going to scroll down to some spoiler ones. Hold, please. Okay. Sky's friend who dies by on Alive. Ourself is named Lewis Fregoli.

Starting point is 00:21:45 The Fregoli delusion is when someone believes that multiple people are actually the same person in disguise, which is shown in the first film, is the smile entity's MO and fits Laura's description of it wearing people's faces like masks. I didn't know that. Wow, that's very cool. Oh, the Fragoli delusion. Yeah, I didn't know that either. When Sky talks to Morris in the bar, her phone starts going off as mother, Darius, and even the talent agency trying to reach her. On a first watch, this can be seen as people trying to find out where she is. As being a pop singer, she isn't able to go off the grid for an extended period.

Starting point is 00:22:19 However, Morris doesn't react to this while he's describing the plan to kill the entity. This likely shows that Morris is indeed real and the entity was trying to distract Sky away from a threat to its existence. So those calls weren't real. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, it does. The way Sky deals with her drug and alcohol cravings by chugging glass water bottles of voss. in one go was not done with any kind of VFX but actress Naomi Scott actually doing it she said it's actually

Starting point is 00:22:49 really hard to down a bottle of Voss I guess I didn't anticipate how uncomfortable that would be I did watching it I was like oh my God yeah that's brutal I know especially if it's cold water no thanks I'd be like gotta be room tip yeah I mean and then I'll give it a shot that's crazy the doctor saying that sky is severely dehydrated despite her constantly drinking water through the movie tells us not to trust what we see, and that the entity is able to conjure far more complex, subtle, and enduring scenario than anticipated. There are also several logic jumps and inconsistencies that cannot be explained by the entity's power,

Starting point is 00:23:25 like Sky managing to free herself, overpower her mother without a struggle, suddenly learning how to drive and managing to do so for around a minute. With her eyes closed, this hints at the fact that the whole scene is not real. because she never went to She never even did any of that So she stayed with her mom the whole time And then went to the show Yeah

Starting point is 00:23:46 Wackadoo Wackadoo When the smiling dancers appear in Sky's house Drag her down And a bloody arm is shoved down her throat Not unlike how the final possession Was revealed to take place in the first movie Even if it's not the exact moment

Starting point is 00:24:01 Sky gets possessed The entity is in control after that point Okay yes Got it There's so many more but that is some of them. Tara, this is a definite yes from me. It's a definite yes from you.

Starting point is 00:24:13 And whenever Smile 3 comes out, we will see you guys here for that. We're here for. For sure. Any final thoughts for the peeps? No, man. Good job, Parker. Parker Finn, a name that I now know.

Starting point is 00:24:24 We know. Obsessed. And thank you guys, Reject Nation, for being here with us. And we'll see you next time. Riley Peterson, when we see your profile pick, we immediately go, Man, this guy, he's got a creepy-ass smile.

Starting point is 00:24:41 Oh, what's wrong with you? Why is he smiling like that when he's talking to us? Was that just a candid photo? Is that how you always smile? Are you trying to make us uncomfortable? Like, really, you don't look happy. In fact, you look like you're frowning when you smile. Wow.

Starting point is 00:24:55 I mean, if you're really happy inside, like, you know, more power to you. But I feel like, you know, maybe somebody tricked you when they taught you how to emote. I mean, part of me is, part of me is thinking that you're some type of, like, killer, who looks like a cop. Oh, yeah, that'll be a perfect cover for you because you got, you know, the big aviator glasses and what looks like a mustache, which is, you know, standard police issue.

Starting point is 00:25:19 But if this is your smile, we got to work on it. We need to move those lips up. Yeah. Curr those lips up? In fact, if you just turned upside down, you'd probably actually be smiling. Yeah, the blood rush would probably force

Starting point is 00:25:33 your mouth muscles to go up. Yes, that too. Yeah. That's why people, when they're hung upside down, and they always end up smiling yeah uh-huh because they're excited but also they're just so overcome with blood yeah it's gravity yeah it's a gravitational smile and i think uh riley could really use a gravitational smile a gravitational smile i i think riley already has one but you could use more gravity inside your gravity no i don't know right now he's looking a little bit like tignitaro on a bad day i think

Starting point is 00:26:00 what he really needs to do smile a little yes smile tignitaro become the riley you were always meant to be. No, we're just kidding, man. I'm sure he got a great smile. Or woman, or whatever you identify as. A child. Riley. Riley is anything gender neutral.

Starting point is 00:26:19 Riley is gender flu-trol. You're neutral and fluid. The correct term is neutral gender. Neutral gender. It's not neutral genus. It's like it out of hand with these definitions. Neuteronomy. I think this is fulfilling.

Starting point is 00:26:37 This is what she wanted.

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