The Reel Rejects - SMILE 2 (2024) IS SCARIER THAN THE FIRST?! MOVIE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:13 a rating there if you're watching this on youtube keep watching and leave a thumbs up a like on the video we just watch smile dose nexigo day of the soldato The March ones So yeah A good paranormal activity Well we Let's get into it I got I got some notes
Starting point is 00:02:38 You got hell of notes That I made yeah I was making some notes I'm a note guy But I'll just say this I love that Yeah I was a blast I loved it
Starting point is 00:02:47 That was a blast yeah That was a ride Yeah I was a ride Because I remember the first one Being a little bit slower And a little bit more oppressive And more of what you kind of expect
Starting point is 00:02:56 When you hear Yeah, which is perfect for what that movie was doing I remember being very impressed with that one And feeling like this is right like it was a little bit And it was a little bit more like up until like the very last 10 to 50 minutes in the movie It was a little bit more predictable and like the you know the save the cat beat sheet of how this thing would go It's a movie you watch and you're like I've seen this before but this is a quality You know
Starting point is 00:03:20 Redition or execution of what this is yeah This one surprised me and not only just being like a really good sequel but going taking a plot that seems like it will work better in smaller scale but going broader going bigger and somehow not losing its sense of intimacy and making it feel even more wild more unpredictable but never quite losing that grip and that's why my first reaction towards the end of this movie when you see this ending that has like large implications of this infection spreading to the masses i'm like please don't go parody. It's like that trailer for what was it
Starting point is 00:04:00 rings or whatever where it's like everyone's watching the tape on their phone and it's like the world is getting yeah. Yeah so that was that's my one concern because like there's one version you're like oh it would be cool but the other brother's like I'll be a little much. Part of me is like I'll never say never like someone
Starting point is 00:04:17 Parker Finn could do a great job of taking it global writer director yeah you look at it okay cool. Yeah and I mean he said like he wanted to go kind of he wanted to take a left turn after the first one because he entertained the idea of like oh we'll do it starring kyle gowner but you know what that kind of seems predictable how do we connect him to something completely different you know and and go from there and uh yeah you know yeah it seemed like the pacing of this movie was faster because
Starting point is 00:04:43 they've already gotten the rules out of the way within the first one yet it still really does work as you don't need to watch you really don't need to watch the first one no the event like you might you'll have better context surrounding the opening of this movie you know if you do see the first one but really it just serves as kind of like a prologue for something that happened yeah but it does you don't need to see the first one and i love that kind of sequel approach and because they know the audience knows the rules they can have a lot more fun with what they're doing but it's not just about going bigger it the i think the thing that makes it feel in uniform with the first one is the fact that it's both very character-driven about the type of trauma that they are going through.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Like, they both have the uniformity of unresolved trauma and having to face that. Like, they're both versions of grief. But this one deals a little bit more, a little bit more, a lot more, with, like, the troubles that come with fame, the plagues of fame, societal expectations, smiling through the pain. And so they still kept it very character driven. Whereas it seems like Smile 3, if this, if we understand the rules, it would, I don't know. It would have to be like crazy ensemble. Some type of recovery group. That's the thing is I feel like, you know, again, like I said before, never say never, you could do a really effective crazy global Smile 3.
Starting point is 00:06:17 But part of me is like content and happy to just leave it there with just the idea in mind. And just let your imagination, you know, it leaves you off with that like, wow. You're like, how would anybody ever get out of this curse now? Yeah. And it's like, I don't even need to see it. Like, and Parker Finn has expressed wishes to go on and do other things. So, you know. Well, I think it's really cool to be between going between the Terrifier franchise and this one, we're terrifier.
Starting point is 00:06:45 One of the things that's so impressive about that franchise is the first one is like a really grimy off-putting. kind of experience and then the director writer was like all right well now that i've got like my handle on this i want to become a better screenwriter so i mean i don't know if you know this because you haven't seen any of them right because one of the experiences of damien leone was he said i wanted to you know study screenwriting and become a better writer so terrifier two became like a sensation because it's it's a it's a massive upgrade in storytelling the raid two of terrifiers it is no it really it is it's a ray two it's a terminator too sure like it's a It's just a massive upgrade in storytelling.
Starting point is 00:07:25 The story is crazy. And then I kind of feel something similar about this franchise. Like the first one is a great installment. Like I really enjoyed that one. But this one shows a much more confident, refined hand who really knows how to play with audience and also deal with characters in a way that delivers a more unique take on what's going now. Right down to the wire of like what's real, what's not. like they really had my brain going and that's such a big part of the paranoia and a horror movie it's like what's real what's not what's real what's not and i've gotten kind of used to that but it's this rare where i'm really here like i really don't know what's real like and now i want to go back and see if i can pick out the tells and and about what's fantasy and what's like half reality and yeah i've been questioning i was questioning like the whole last like 15 20 minutes like what is that you really kill her mom but that doesn't line up with what we saw earlier yeah yeah totally so it kind of is aware of it's it is it seems like it has a better grip on
Starting point is 00:08:27 its rules too on top of that yeah yeah and i mean at least from the the vague little in the in between the cut i looked at some trivia and it seems like there are like tells and earmarks that you can go back and note they answer that thing i had during the because during the reaction i was saying wait a minute but we saw jemma jemma and the mom interact when sky wasn't in the room and that was like one of the few times and because one thing i'd noticed was like the only I think, if I'm not mistaken, the only time you see through someone else's POV is when it is the entity. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And that happened when she was in bed when they were like having the sleepover, I think. Yeah, when Gemma was sleeping in bed. Which is then revealed to be, yeah, a fantasy. And I think it's appropriate to use that for the flashback when you were hopping between POVs with Nicholson son. whatever Nicholson Nicholson Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:24 Whatever his name is What is his name? It's not Nick Nicholson Like Sean or something like Yeah what is his name I would like to know his name Ray Nicholson Yeah you go
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah so when it's hot Because in there he is like The big manifestation of the trauma And the trauma is the Is the entity Yeah and in this movie They give you the hint that she has this grave personal trauma
Starting point is 00:09:51 way sooner. Whereas I feel like in the first movie they reveal what her real trauma is much later. Yeah, and this one is also like the consequences of your mistakes and I feel like the cautionary tale aspect of the both of these films which is you know, you should face your shit
Starting point is 00:10:07 is much stronger here like I love how it's down to the wire with this sky character Naomi Scott. Yeah. Beautifully British actress Naomi Scott. Brilliant in this film. So apparently co-wrote some of the songs.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Oh, she was Jasmine. Yeah. I suddenly remember who she was. I suddenly saw the song. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, she's brilliant in this movie. Captures that turmoil and the descent into madness so well.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Truly. Again, horror is such a great avenue for, like, leading actresses. And because of its category, so overlooked. in the award ceremony and his like when you see when I'm watching like the substance and then watching this it's like god damn
Starting point is 00:10:58 these are like two of the best performances I've seen this year sure and they just just know they're not even going to be in the conversation maybe Demi Moore because that's like a film festival horror film but she's got a legacy but that's what I love about this experience
Starting point is 00:11:14 this ride because it's such a Blumhouse type of ride but it's got Remind me of insidious in the kind of thrills it was throwing as you constantly in the gleeful terror and jump scares. Yeah, but it's also got that elevated horror earmarks that film critics love so much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You know, facing your trauma and all that. But it went down to the wire with her. And then she's giving her, essentially her character arc speech of, I'm not going to let this destroy people around me anymore. And I love, love that metaphor of how like when you don't face your trauma that trauma can come out and harm other people and addiction you know which yeah like not only harm or arm and others but you're harming yourself and then how does it end she's parming everyone yeah whoa what a bleak ass ending and i love it and then you're like how many people were live streaming to other people who aren't even in the room who are going to get cursed because of this yeah yeah i guess that's where you kind of
Starting point is 00:12:19 wonder where the rules lie of like where what is the is there like a proximity yeah is there a cap on this sorry yeah is there some kind of technicality of like you know what kind of viewing you have on the situation or whatever but but either way yeah the point of of yeah trying to stop the the collateral damage of your drama and only unleashing it on exponentially more people yeah and it's just I mean no that's just a traumatizing um incident to witness Like, that's why I love that final shot where you're not seeing her harm herself. Yeah. You're watching the reaction, the infliction that she's doing and how horrifying and traumatic that is to just be privy to.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Take the curse away. Take the supernatural element away. If you're just an audience member there to watch someone you love and adore and you're in like the front row seats, it is a traumatizing experience. And here she is doing the exact thing that she was just saying in her fantasy that she thought was real of what she's trying to prevent and stop from happening anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And then she's just inflicting that on everyone. So yeah, I think that is a poignant, powerful, tragic ending and what really sells it is like the hybrid combination of directing, editing, and Naomi Scott's beautiful performance here. Like she is so real in this film. So real.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah, and she's got a... care like there's are there any aside from the prologue like is there any of it that doesn't have her like in the frame somewhere or in the shot yeah like jemma and the mom are looking at each for that one second that one second but they didn't actually interact she didn't actually talk to jemma she says hi hi eva there's a mom or something elizabeth elizabeth thank you to huell for sponsoring today's video now guys i'm going to give you all the god's honest truth of how this sponsorship came to be sponsorship came to be we got contacted about basically partnering up with huel before we agreed to anything the very first thing i said was i would like to try the product first i did
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Starting point is 00:16:28 Terrifier, clarifier. Oh, you got your bat pen. Yeah, like this was such a, it was such a fun ride, and it was so mean, and it was so, it's the combination. Like, it did remind me of, hey. Wow, you can actually see it on screen. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:17:18 If you're listening to us on Apple or Spotify, I just signed a Batman signal light on the wall. For those of you listen to the comedy show at home. Yeah, I really love the way they built on the style and the visual language of the first movie because that movie has a lot of those like very patient pans back and forth and stuff and a lot of those like hot head twirling, you know, upside down shots and stuff like that. And this, it really, like, that movie felt composed. And this movie felt that much more fluid and intentional in the way every shot was constructed. And again, it's like that film school joke of like some shots are just, we need coverage and we just lined up a shot.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But this movie felt like everything was intentional and everything was composed. Yeah. And that's my favorite version when you upgrade a budget too. Yeah. is it seems like it's being put to like exceptional use yeah it's really being put on screen on how to actually like what can we do with the money yeah with a brilliant opening one or not that opening that prologue was terrific and i and i do like it is one of those things where it is a trope to like bring back a character from the previous movie only to kill them off right away but this i thought worked really really nicely as a segue into everything that happened and to have
Starting point is 00:18:37 it be her dealer is just incidentally involved in this like i really like the way that they chained it together like that because it does have that sort of cruel feeling of random nature and the fact that he stumbles outside victorious only to get smeared completely by a truck is just like it's so this almost in a completely different way reminded me of watching like evil dead 2013 in the way that it's like it's so mean and it's so dark but it's like you can tell like someone behind the camera is just giggling at how much people are going to be squirming through this. There's times where this movie's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah, in like the most messed up way. And I mean, like the go- You gotta have like a dark sense of humor to like get it, I think. Yeah, there are times where we were just like cracking up. I'm like, this is a funny-ass shit. Yeah, you're like laughing and recoiling all at once. And I mean, great gore gags and stuff. And like there are CG embellishments here,
Starting point is 00:19:31 but I thought I had a nice blend. Like that bit where he's smashing his face with the weight plate. It was just so gross, like, so icky to imagine. You know they had to do, like, what is a crush wound like that look like? We've got to do our research. I don't recall the makeup effects being as impactful, and that reminds me a little bit more a terrifier. The first movie, the thing I remember the most, aside from finally seeing the monster,
Starting point is 00:19:55 because the monster does have a uniquely icky design. Yeah, yeah. But the first movie, the thing I remember, the clearest is that weird, like, head gag where the sister's, like, head falls off at a weird angle outside the car window. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a disturbing kind of visual there. But this definitely had a lot more striking gore and, like, striking use of blood. Yet to, for some reason, I don't know why. Didn't feel like there was as much.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, it's definitely. As much death moments, yeah. Yeah, it's not like there's like a massive body count necessarily, and there are things that are in fantasy. And there's so much, it's like it's such an oppressive movie again because when you're not beholding some kind of, you know, blood gag or something, there's just so much anguish in between all of that and so much attempt to like mitigate chaos. And like it's, I think this is a really smart choice they make. Because I, again, I like the first smile a good amount. And I remember watching that movie and going, yeah, like, I don't love this the way the audience seems to. But like, it's a really good version. It's a really well done version of what it is. is. I love this one. Yeah. I think this one's better. I think this one's more flavorful. It's like I don't, like the first one is a little bit more like, oh, yeah, I can see how this might be your first movie or how you might have gotten the scriptal because it's like, oh, it's about a therapist and it's an easy inroad to like the psychological stuff. Whereas here it was like going with a pop singer who has this sorted history and watching her struggle with that, took it into a different place. Like I not to shade the first movie even. I like those those characters and that scenario. and everything and the, you know, view in through a, you know, a psychologist of sorts, you know, going through this is its own means of having people ignore or write off your paranoia. But here, it's like, we're already used to seeing pop stars struggle in the limelight in regular life. And it just gives
Starting point is 00:21:52 you that extra little curiosity at the back of your mind. Like, you know that this isn't happening. But at the same time, it does map over in a convincing way to where you're like, man, if somebody's having a mental breakdown, like, what if somebody is having a mental breakdown? Like, what if this was what they were going through or something like that. And that happens with a lot of them. Yeah. And so like the choice to center it around somebody in her position just felt a lot more unique and flavorful, you know, and a great way to build off of this and to take something out of
Starting point is 00:22:18 a place where you would normally confront trauma. The first movie has a lot of, you know, hospitals and things like that. And, you know, you've got like, oh, the cop is helping me out. It's very much more traditional in that sense. Whereas here, parts of it almost reminded me of like a black mirror or something like that. where, yeah, you have the metaphor, and it works for both, you know, trauma regarding death and regarding violence, but also trauma regarding addiction and the warped perception of reality that you have, and just that added weight of, like, trying to keep it together while, like, a whole bunch of people are relying on you and things are happening, and just those moments where she kept saying, like, I wish I could show you what it's like in my head. There's so much noise. I wish I could stop all this noise. like it's so relatable and it's yeah it's like a fantastical movie it's you know over the top certainly but it really i don't know resonated in a nice way that was a little more unexpected or i don't
Starting point is 00:23:15 know exactly how to articulate it's a little more unexpected to me than than the scenario presented in the first movie yeah i thought a sequel was a stupid idea honestly yeah and i was like i love this like like i like the first one i thought this was dynamite though like that what a way to build on it and yet to take this into a less likely scenario but to really use that to so many great and interesting ends and to create so many horrible
Starting point is 00:23:41 situations and scenarios and like you really feel like this is so sad like this is a remarkably sad movie for how like gleefully mean and fun it also is yeah it's great like I felt terrible for her the entire time like I was I just wanted her
Starting point is 00:23:57 to shot to to rise above it so bad and in the end at first i was like oh no you know like because the first movie she doesn't triumph over it and in this movie i was like well maybe they'll go the other way and maybe she will find a way to triumph over it but the way that they come to that you know sad mean conclusion uh i thought was appropriately yeah heightened and appropriately foreboding to where it it tops the situation into something wholly bigger yeah for sure um i want to talk about this opening prologue because i think it's a perfect prolog. I've been skimming it. Like the oneer to me is awesome because there's so much
Starting point is 00:24:38 of like the voyeuristic quality is like the entity is watching you. So to have a oneer to put you as the audience member in reflection, it feels like it's like the entity playing witness to what's happening. And then to end it and then to have it be passed along and then the person feeling like you don't deserve to have it pass along to you, he's almost like apologetic. to end it off with then the death being like death is inescapable in this world and it's almost insta karma for putting this on an innocent or on a more innocent character than the other two and then to end it off with the humor of the smile face yeah like i think it just encapsulates everything that this movie does tonally and thematically in such a great way and then to continue that voyeurism
Starting point is 00:25:27 into this shot of people who want like us as audience members who watch celebrities on television to go to the Drew Barrymore show and see her talking about her recovery and what we place on them like we this is all we get we never really know who someone is what they're like whether that be someone on television on YouTube you never really know and you just roll with what they're displaying here That flash when she's talking to Drew Barrymore and you see that one little flash of her ripping her hair out. It's like we're so used to hearing celebrities discussed like, oh yeah, I was in a dark place, but I've come. I've done the work to get past it.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And you don't see the harsh, vulnerable position that that person might have been in. Yeah. Like how dark, how deep that well might have gone. And the first character she interacts with in the mirror is her mom. And so much of what she has had to face. starts with the tremendous because that's one thing that I feel like this movie was commenting on a little bit more too is you kind of attract who you are underneath a lot of the time you like attracts like and so much of like what she's dealing with is of course of the incident of what happened
Starting point is 00:26:44 in that car crash however it probably dates back even further to what like what led to this person getting in the car like that having this relationship being a drug addict yeah that probably all started with her relationship with her mom so to have the first like mirror you know where's dad they don't even really talk about that so i think it's really good so to have like your first mirror interaction shot be with the mom i feel like it's a very telling about who this character is like i really feel like it's a strongly character-driven narrative totally and and well nuanced for what it is because like props to rosemary de witt too because that mom character could easily be more of a caricature or more of a overt drag and like you get how she may be
Starting point is 00:27:30 you know overbearing and controlling and doing this for her own personal game but you can also see how this might have started out of mutual interest and just withered into what we see here and yeah i thought it was a brilliant film great musical all around exceptional editing uh the editing on this what a solid fucking grip yeah and i believed uh i do appreciate to the care and craft they put into both the her songs in within the movie and the dancers element because you know like art within art sometimes doesn't feel real and it's like her music her performance felt like a real thing not just like ah we need something for this movie uh and like that whole bit where she's in her apartment surrounded by the dancers was like truly memorable and fascinating and like one of those things it's like that's like that's like that's like that's what that's like the the the um it's like the off road version of what all these people are trained to do these people whose instrument is their body and their movement and and it was yeah like it seemed like they took every opportunity that this setting afforded them i love just these consequences of fame
Starting point is 00:28:40 as we're like skimming through it on the prime video thing it's like oh man you know everyone it ends with her still being able to be at the show when she shouldn't be there last place she should be Because they all just didn't really give a shit about her. Yeah. They just cared about getting her on that freaking tour. Yeah. When she just humiliated herself in public pushing that old lady off and all that, all those embarrassing speech.
Starting point is 00:29:08 All these things. And they still just like, no, we just need it like get you healed to get you on the stage. Man, it is a really. I think this is a much, I think it isn't a, uh, that's why I love about it too is like, You know, sometimes an argument people make for a sequel. Like, yeah, but you need the first one. I'm like, you don't for this. I don't think you do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:28 It works in an anthology kind of way where it's like, yeah, it's like you said. I almost wish they didn't just call it smile too, which is just so that way it doesn't feel like you need to watch the first one. Call it grin. Smile. Smiles. Smile, pop star. Yeah. Just call it Sky.
Starting point is 00:29:45 It's called Sky. And I like how they didn't. Also the last thing. I like how they didn't just reuse the. I mean, it's clear. I remember last time the monster was more shadowed probably looked more real in the first one
Starting point is 00:29:57 because they have like this giant ass lie but it still looks freaking awesome. Yeah I mean it's truly icky and unsettling and it just looks wrong and I love the horror of how the monster comes from outside of her peeling from her scar yeah like this is and the thing
Starting point is 00:30:13 that she was most afraid to expose about herself it's just an incredibly thought out movie it's a for a blockbuster horror film it's really thought out yeah and it this and that's why i think this genre is so great because they clearly went bigger here like this i don't know how much this one can you look it up uh how much this movie cost i'm rarely 28 i'm actually like like that very rarely interested in the production budget of these things i want to say it was like 28 million but i was surprised by like well this one
Starting point is 00:30:43 looks expensive you know this one looks like it costs a lot more money absolutely and and i think smile i think horror is that one genre where you don't need famous people that you can rely on a concept to sell i mean that's it's almost better when you don't have famous people yeah yeah and i think too it's like it's really hard to make a movie scary when you're mainly just following one person around yeah 28 million dollar budget that's a great budget he said they had slightly more toys and resources to work with but he wanted to go you know to make it look way more than the budget and i feel like they succeeded at that and horror tends to be the genre where they can pull that off there's been a lot of great horror this year there's a lot of really excellent horror yeah and john's seen like five of them
Starting point is 00:31:29 i just keep holding out just in case just in case one of these pops up that we can do i mean you know it's it's inspiring and i mean now it's more of a treat because yeah i don't get to see everything the second it comes out but like it is the genre truly where i mean so many of the best horror movies are in that position where it's like, damn, you did this on how much money? Even the terrifiers I've heard are like that where it's like, damn, this is only like $50,000 or something like that. And yet it looks way more than that. I mean, Terrifier was like the first one was ended with, oh my God, I was, I don't know why I let myself watch this. And then I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Then I went into the second one going, why am I here? Like, why would I return to this? This is crazy. This is longer. It's like two and a half hours. oh my god terrified two is two and a long and then but then i the time flew by because it is a grip is surprisingly gripping and that's i love that really cool and like you're like full of theories that you just don't stop having and and then i went to terrify her three like i am so excited to watch
Starting point is 00:32:37 terrifier three days for christmas just a it's a really like that's a that to me is like one of the weirder franchises just by like wow look how much this this went from so such a movie I would never watch too. I can't wait to continue this. Well, that's part of the magic of horror too is that because it's a genre that is marked by lower budgets and things like that
Starting point is 00:33:01 and people pulling off the unbelievable on a shoestring, like then you can go out there and then you can create a franchise that, you know, wouldn't have existed in any other circumstance and that is able to take some swings and show you some stuff that's wild or that you would never expect it to
Starting point is 00:33:17 grow into. True, true. Absolutely. true um well guys what you think about smile too did you like you more than the first one leave your thoughts down below what do you think they'll do for smile three they'll will be smil smil or three smell three you know they're going to reverse the e make it yeah yeah smil three smil three smil three smillie smil right i mean you got to do smile three for that yeah you have to do at least five so we can have five miles that's the last one And then they'll struggle to figure out how to do the four pun, but, you know, smile forever. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Well, guys, leave our thoughts down below. Thank you so much for being here. And we will talk to y'all soon. Horror Thursday, complete. Eric Horstman. If there's someone to shout out on our smile reaction, it's you, buddy. It's you. It's you.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Because sometimes you might say some things on the internet That might be a bit controversial You horn dog But you just got to smile through it You just got it How much trauma you take in You just kiss that shirt on And maybe the pain will go away
Starting point is 00:34:35 From whatever you're doing Because we love Eric around here He's pain with those cheeks Oh he's okay as long as it's Eric and we're smiling We can deny all pain with a good old fashion smile smile like you mean it Eric
Starting point is 00:34:50 that's right that's right the least sincere person we know so just fake it till you make it all right just don't hurt us please don't pass the curse on to us
Starting point is 00:35:01 whatever you want daddy I'll be the curse on anyone else I love you daddy I love you oh daddy Eric I'm so thankful for you this Thanksgiving I'm cradled in your arms please you can be my daddy I'll be your bitch
Starting point is 00:35:14 whatever you want Eric Baby Daddy. Whatever you want. Be my baby daddy, Eric.

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