SNOWPIERCER (2013) IS HARROWING!! MOVIE REVIEW!! First Time Watching
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01:57I like it.Yeah, this was...was a really, again, I, as mentioned a couple times, right, I did not know what to expectto be into this. I'm always a sucker for a very good post-apocalyptic feel, and I feltthis was a very unique take on the genre, especially confined to one, confined space likeit was. I found very fascinating, and then again, this director really does a, understands,understands the nuances of social constructs and social class.And I found that, again, the journey of seeing from the tail end to the front end
02:37was quite a journey in itself.And then the characters are just so, so rich in how they're written and acted, of course.Like, this might be my, again, I know we always talk about recency bias.I'm going to have to sit on it, but this might be one of, if not my favorite, Chris Evans'acting performances, that one scene of him giving that monologue.It brought me to tears because I was like in the moment with him.I felt everything that he had went through in all that time.And like the horrors that they had to deal with.
03:12And again, just talking about the social constructs of what would like people in,again, we don't deal with situations like this on a confined train in a post-apocalyptic world.But again, just the social balance that we have in.society nowadays, like, people are,yeah, condenses that hierarchy into a linear line.Yeah, no, for sure.And I thought this film did a really good and mature job of just explaining that.But like, I, I just really felt for his, again, you feel for these characters right
03:41away.Again, you're empathetic for them and the situation that they deal with because the first,in the first few moments, I said, the living conditions here.And again, the set design, it just evoke a certain sense of like what they are going throughimmediately and then obviously you see like the tort yeah the tort the torturous uh things that theydo and how they feel uh about them from the hierarchy down um it's it's quite palpable and also likeuh it's impressive like what what how they were able to establish that um but then again likethe the emotion that that chris evans evoked out of me personally and just like that scene like
04:18that really was one of the most y'all know me uh quint is my favorite monologue of all timewith Jaws, but this one is right damn well there. That was really powerful. Just an incrediblefilm in general, the storytelling, the fascination, the subversion of expectations, like nobody wassafe in this film, and I found that to be very fascinating as well. And this film did not relyon formulaic tropes in any way, because every time I thought, as expecting it to go there, I knowI made the one prediction of, he's going to make the ultimate sacrifice, but it's not very muchprediction in a post-apocalyptic film i think that's usually the norm um but in general like it was justnot nothing was really on my bingo card that happened uh just so many things where i was like this
05:05just blew my mind like the scene to this scene to this scene um so i got a lot more to say johnwhy don't you take it away yeah no this was such a striking experience and really well directedreally well conceived and really well acted and well cast too because I thinkyou know this kind of story they smartly used the fact that you are familiar withcertain actors to you know make it that much more tangible and threatening when they arekilled and so yeah like you expect certain people to make it a certain amount of the way orwhatever and it really kind of shows its hand by going no nobody's safe like the only personyou can kind of count on perhaps making it to the end is Chris Evans and probably um uh oh god I forget
05:57what the character's name is but you know the the guy who's opening up all the gates with hisdaughter right right um you know you can kind of imagine that they will make it but yeah so manypeople uh you know so many recognizable actors go down in such tragic ways and it really does likekind of it's smart to use the fact that you have an association to bridge a little bit of thatgap and then give you the context on top of all that. And, you know, for a story about a characterwho's being thrust into a leadership position but doesn't want that leadership position, I thoughtit was a really nice twist, but, you know, certainly a fascinating and a well-earned twist that,like, no, I get why this guy doesn't want the leadership position because of the traumatic things he's
06:41been through and the person that he was before we meet him as the leader. And so yeah, to haveChris Evans in a place where, and I forget how close to Captain America we are, even if this is2014, we're actually not that far into the MCU even. This is the year Winter Soldier came out.So yeah, he's established as Captain America. His star is on the rise. But this certainly, yeah,like especially picks up a certain amount of contrast that much more now that we've seen the fullrun of his time as Steve Rogers. So you have like this automatic trust that you place in him as aas a character and then you can imagine I like that aspect. You imagine that oh like whateverdarkness is in his past is probably sympathetic and it's probably something that you know isn't
07:30as you know harsh or brutal as it would he would let on and no it truly is and to have it bethat like you know the Jamie Bell character his second in command this guy.who looks up to him so much.There's way more to it than that.Like, you literally gave me,you and Gilliam in a turn of events,like gave me my life in so many ways.And the motif with the arm,
07:53you know,you see what happens to the Ewan Bremener character.And, you know,and to even John Hurt walking around with the,you know,the peg leg and the,you know,hook hand.
08:05Yeah,like you think,oh,they must have been punished for something.And then no,come to find,you know,Chris Evans tried to take that leadership step and couldn't do it, even after, you know,
08:17John Hurt stepped up. And, uh, and yeah, like, it draws this fascinating portrait of things.And it, yeah, just like has this nature where you start and you feel like, okay, we're,we're getting to know what society we're in and we're getting to know what these conditions arelike. And you think like, oh, we're going to, you know, obviously something is going to happen that'sgoing to overthrow the order of how things work on this train, especially when you joineverybody in such a harsh, dingy environment. But yeah, it's like it throws you in when likethe plan is already cooking and we're already kind of on the precipice of making a move. And they doa really good job of drawing the time and the urgency of things to where you're like, I don't
09:00know if it's going to pop off. But it seems like there are a lot of different moments of opportunityand the opportunities seem precious. And there are points of no return. And there are, you know,little windows that you have to take.And so it, as much as it is like a physically linear movie leading to a, you know, physicalendpoint that is straight down the train, uh, there are so many, yeah, interesting flavorsand comments about a society, you know, like obviously there's the, the sort of generalnature of, you know, how we look upon different casts and classes of society and what yourown caster class, you know, does to inform how you view, especially the ones that you perceive
09:41to be lower than you and to come to find at the very end. It's interesting because, you know,I imagine we're supposed to take that as as truth, but it is heart-wrenching. And I likethat there's a little bit of ambiguity. Is Wilford telling the truth about Gilliam? I have to imaginehe probably is, but at the same time, it kind of doesn't matter. Yeah. And it is. And itIt does have that thing where, yeah, there's that sort of matrixe element, actually.Yeah, he goes to see the architect and then he learns that, oh, like even your rebellion,even you as this prophet as this symbol of resistance and symbol of freedom in a different wayis actually just part of the plan, which is heartbreaking and which, you know, goes to show
10:28that there's like a greater, I would love to sit with this and dissect it because, again, thefact that you have this development of like, oh, no, you know, like the leader of, you know,the people who everyone looks at, the person who everyone looks at to lead them, uh, is, you know,is somehow involved with the nefarious scheme or the, the sort of unjust system that we all haveto live under and that we all feel like we're fighting against. And I feel like there is someinteresting, you know, stuff to unpack because you could imagine like, yeah, these otherattempts at escaping or attempts at rebellion or attempts at overthrowing the order. Those were partof the plan. Those were, you know, a means to, uh, you know, culling a certain amount of the
11:14population and resetting things to an established balance or order. And I like that the movie doesn'tnecessarily have to resolve itself for you. You can kind of look at the array of things and thendissect that for yourself. You're looking at the back end of the train and you're like,damn, you know, is this, is there an established order that necessitates this? Like, thisseems like the lie or at least the illusion that somebody at the very front of the trainwould perpetuate. It seems like there's certainly enough space for all of us and it's the debateabout living, about being in the world and being humanity. It's that thing about like the trainis the world. We are humanity. And humanity is so many sort of contrasting things and conflicting
12:00things and that notion that yeah everyone was fighting and eating each other until somebody steppedup and presented a leader, Gilliam, you know, presented that something to, you know, stand behindor something to get on board with and turning the carnage. It's like the same thing is happeningexcept now we're looking after each other and now we are creating community around our harshcircumstances rather than just being, you know, roaches scattering and wool.all biting each other.And there's, you know, it's, yeah, it's opaque enough and it has enough twists and turns thatyou could sit and reflect. And I feel like this is the kind of movie that will give you more
12:41in terms of subtext and messaging. The more you reflect on it and the more you watch it,you know, I feel like this is definitely a movie that will probably reward the repeat viewingby giving you. Yeah, interesting details or pieces of subtexts that are easier to catch onceyou know what the main action and the main text is.is yeah um but yeah chris evans especially like i i i love this for him to borrow a phrase fromthe the slang of today because this is perhaps the most unique role i've seen him in i mean ihe's in sunshine and that's certainly a movie that you i love that movie um and it certainly useshim in a way that isn't quite reliant on the modes that you know him from in terms of yeah like
13:28being a smart ass or you know a noble you know warrior character or something like thator charming or charming yeah here you feel all the weight of his burden and the twistednature of what he's dealing with and his own nature as a person and yeah like that moment whereyou watch as he makes the crucial choice it's interesting you know because you think okay so ifeven if gilliam and wilford are talking on the phone and do kind of have acommunication like you know there is that element oftentimes to you know especially disparateclasses as there has to be some kind of intermediary and there have to be conversations betweenthe top and the bottom that we're all not the rest of us aren't privy to but maybe gilliam you know
14:15this is his way of of truly like maybe he's it's it's weird it's nefarious to think of thatand it's heartbreaking to think of that that he was in cahoots perhaps with wilford andmaybe sold us all out. But at the same time, maybe Wilford knew. It's like Wilford keeps saying,like, you know, you're so entertaining. You keep giving us these surprises and, and this rushof unpredictability. You were only supposed to make it so far. And I feel like this was Gilliam.He's constantly trying to hand over the leadership to Chris Evans to Curtis. And I feel like there'sprobably something within that character that knows like, no, you can make it to the end and youcan actually completely change the order of things potentially. And then on top of all that,
15:00it's the question of like, do we reset the train? Do you take the engine and then attempt toredistribute how things work around here? Because that's just going to only lead to more cardagewhen the halves are forced to give up some and the half-nots are going to be so desperate foranything that you can see how much chaos would happen there. And then you arrive at the ultimatean answer of no, no, no, we just got to go outside and start a new. And, you know, I like thatdetail, too, of like, if you look outside, you can see more and more and more of this plane everyyear that we're passing. The snow is melting. The temperatures are changing. There's just somuch there. I've been talking forever. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're good. I was just
15:40going to say, like, it is interesting to, uh, interpret that, uh, in regards to if Gilliam was incahoots with them. I like how they left it ambiguous. Um, because you can't say, yeah, becausea lot of the conversation either he had ears everywhere or they are in cahoots but also too you couldmake an argument or a case too that wilford is just emotionally manipulating him because he is gettingold and his time is almost up and he does need chris evans so he's having him take his place andalso he sees a little bit in him that that grit and determination and that survival mode of will tolive so type of thing so it's fun to speculate um you know if gilliam was in cahoots with himI also do like the point you make about, obviously it was, you know, they give us the foreshadowing and the symbolism in the film when he's doing that incredible monologue again, where the reveal is happening again. I really want to emphasize again how much I love these slow reveals that come out that they really take their time with. And they're so damn satisfying because you don't expect them coming, but they service the characters and the plot. Those are the pest kind of slow type of reveals. But when he's explaining that whole thing and he's talking about how,
16:49He's the one who was going to eat, eat the baby that was Jamie Bell's character.And that Gilliam is the one who cut off his arm to become the leader.And they also said, yeah, but they also said earlier in the film that he needs to become the, that Chris Evans, Curtis needs to become the leader.That's a foreshadowing of I need to give up my arm type of subtext.Yeah, that's coming back.I couldn't do it even if so many people did.And then I literally offer up my arm to save this kid.Yeah, but that's literally, exactly.
17:18Exactly. But that's literally what you're saying where you will be rewarded with repeat type of viewings because when you hear that line in the film, you're so taken up back by this incredible performance in the monologue that you're not thinking about. He's going to literally give up his left arm to save another child's life in that moment. But again, you do the repeat being like, okay, now I see this, where this is going, where this is coming from. But I agree with your point about you will be rewarded with repeat viewings on several different things. And also, too, like,knowing things that you know, like the protein block,like, fascinating. I wonder what the,is that fruit leather? What is it?Yeah. Is it just some kind of gelatin that they injectprotein? No, it sits up in different. Yeah, because that's what theyfeel that that social class deserves. That's,that's what they are. They are peasants and they are bugs.
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21:16they're not doing this just to feed people and keep people from eating each other.They're probably also doing this as a means of pest control.You know,like they're probably doing this to get rid of the insects and,and things they find in the rest of the train.But yeah,like that moment with Jamie Bell where,you know,
21:35they're in the fight.And even that was like the aesthetic details,all these dudes and ski masks with night vision and these spears and axes and stuff.Like it's ghoulish.It's almost like punk or it's almost like a Hellraiser movie or something like that.Like it borders on being horror and sci-fi at the same time.And, you know, that moment where he does, you can, like, that was such a striking moment because I was looking for a better word than moment.But, you know, like you're arrested in those seconds when you're like, the protagonist of most movies would turn back or do something to save this guy because of the.
22:15that they have and in that momentthe movie kind of makes it clear to youlike no no no no no this isit like we are all fightingfor the quote greater goodor for like the bigger picturewe've come this farI am the leader I have to make
22:31this choice to move forward and to gainthis bargaining chipin the Tilda Swinton characterwho like she was having such a good timewith this completelyyeah unflattering characterto play and even the way they disbandingdispatched her and like the whole thing in the school car with Alice and Pill constantly going in
22:51and out from like it's sweet and she's teaching the kids and it's all colorful and like clearly theydon't know the real nature of things but you know and it's like you can see there's the absurditythere because the kids are so excited and they're even helping out oh the kids went through there butthey're also being like randomly told like what happens if we go outside you'll freeze and diethat's why I said it feels like an indoctrination center there's they're totally made tothink a certain way. And about the, yeah, about the back of the train people. They're clearly beingtaught that they are lower, you know. Exactly. That's, yeah. And that the definition of indoctrination.No, yeah. And it's, they're being indoctrinated to this. And, and, and in such a way that, like,
23:32it, again, begs the question, like, you know, they keep saying that everyone's in their right place.And it's like, says who, you know, like what right place is there. And there is like a religiousaspect or it feels kind of like a cult worship of these parameters that this one guy has sortof just let unfold down from the top, unfurl down from the top. And so yeah, you have likethe clubbing car where everything is deconant. You have like the peaceful, you know, botany car.You have the aquarium car. Like there's so many beautiful design choices. But also, yeah, just thislike surreal contrast between how awful it is at the back and how barren it is. Andthen how many sort of spacious, lovely rooms there are. And it's like, it's, it's the same
24:20thing you experience with planet Earth. You're like, I gotta imagine there's probablyenough space if distributed evenly, you know, that everybody could have a little bit. Butthat's the thing is some people want more or all. And, and yeah, like, I like that theyacknowledge that like, that's what someone at the top would say to somebody at the bottom partof the debate. But also, you know, it brings you up against like the real tough question oflike, but how do you create a harmony and how do you create a society in a confined space,especially that like caters to and takes care of everyone?Yeah.
24:55It's, uh, yeah, this was, this was crazy.Like this is, and two, just like as an action piece, you know, not that it's like an actionmovie the way you would imagine that phrase.But there were, there were quite some immersive and exhilarating sequence.And they were emotional at the same point.Like you had that one sequence where they turned off all the lights that were going into the,the tunnel like that was quite an inventive sequence there running all the pipes down to keepthe doors open right right right now there were some some good action sequences for sure yeah
25:25it was gripping and intense and it had a lot of momentum and too that idea that like everyoneyou got to be a little crazy to live here which i guess is kind of true on just regular earth tooyeah i mean me personally if i lived on this train i would be in the sushi section the aquariumand also the jacuzzi area, probably the most.I imagine you would be in the club section,but I would be there with you, too, John.Shaking a tail feather.Yeah, really quick.
25:50What did this film, your prediction or guess, rather, guess, I mean.Worldwide, how much did it make box office?Worldwide.450 million.You are not even close.86 million.86 million?Yeah, domestically in the United States,
26:08had made four and a half million internationally.Yeah, really high.this. I was like, they got a TV show. Maybe theyactually made money across the world. It made $82million internationally. So about86,87.86,000, 758,912.The budget is not telling me here
26:25on Boxing up as much.Really quickly, Rotten Tomatoes.Give me both audience andcritics. So start with critics. Criticsgot to be high on this, man. It's got to be like96% or something like that.In 96, audience?I'll tell you what
26:3998.Okay, so critics, you said 96, it was 94.Okay.Audience you said 98, it was 72.72.I was off today.I could see that.The critics was you got, all right.
26:55I can see people expecting like a more like fun action movie or some or moresci-fi.Yeah, depending on what you saw.Again, I did not see a trailer.I don't know.Or if you saw the poster, you're like, I'm, yeah, I'm going to see a straight-up sci-fiaction thriller.All I knew was that it took place on a train and that...
27:14I didn't even know that.The classes of society were sort of separated out by the columns.I didn't even know that.But once you told me it was the director of Paris, I was like, okay, I got an ideawhere this might go.Yeah, yeah.All right.So director Bong Joon Ho, did I say that right?
27:29Yeah.Often clashed with producer H.W.Let's just call him that.You know who it is.Who frequently interfered in order to demand his version of the film.Oh, wow.the menu request, the producer insisted on having the fish scene removed in favor of more action.What?
27:46Bong, who considered it his favorite shot in the film, was adamant to keep it in.He told the producer that he wanted to keep the shot for a personal reason as a tributeto his late father who was a fisherman.Upon hearing this, the producer said that family is very important to him, so he grantedBong to keep the shot.In an interview, the director said, it was a lie.my father was not a fisherman yeah yeah yeah you do what you can you do what you got it yeahbig respect bong junho yeah uh writer and director bang junho had reservations about
28:21casting chris evans in the lead role because of his muscular physique he felt that as a residentof the extremely poverty stricken tail section chris should not be especially physically fitcostuming and careful camera angles kept evans physique from showing i mean yeah because he was inprobably in the tail end of just doing avengers and he's probably filmingwinter soldier at this time. So he's at physical, like peak right now. So we cloak him in a bigblack coat. Yeah. It worked because I'm not, I wasn't even thinking about like his physical peakas Captain Ameri or Steve Rogers. I wasn't even thinking about that. So it worked. Yeah.There was no additional lighting used while filming the torch light fight scene. Fun. That's cool.
29:02That must have been hard too. You got to properly ventilate a set if you're going to do that.Yeah. That's crazy. Writer and director, Bong Joon Ho, explained.that the protein block was made by combining seaweed, tangle, sugar, and gelatine.Okay.Yeah, gelatin, excuse me.Jamie Bell hated it while Tilda Swinton liked it.I wonder we stayed on that shot.She was just enjoying herself.
29:25Yeah, I was going to say.I'd be curious to, you know, that actually sounds like it could be palatable.I like a seaweed, you know.You are going to be shocked by this one.Okay.Sir John Hertz's character's name, Gilliam, is an homage to Terry Gilliam.a director whose filmincludes many films
29:41and we're not going to get into it.Many greats.According to the filmmakers,trained babies like Yonadeveloped animalistic hearing skills.Interesting.Chris Evans personally contacted Bong Joon Hofor the audition after hearing
29:58the casting news.I mean, yeah, when Chris Evans' contactsyou're like, okay, I guess I'll let him.Well, and I like to hearthat he really must have wanted this, you know,because he really brought it.He put his all into it.And yeah, like he did the stoic guy thing well
30:14without it feeling too much like a put on.And then again,when you were revealed as to why he is the way he is,it makes perfect sense.And I thought, again,his performance revealing those details was great.Terrific.According to the filmmakers,
30:28the revolt of the seven's female leaderis Namgung Minso,the high,at the end of the guy who does the,was it the wire?he's like hot wiringhot wiring. Yeah. It was his wife andYona's mother. I was wondering about that
30:43maybe. Yeah. And by the way, heis the actor who was in Paris. Is he?Yeah. He looks so different justwith that. I just looked it up. And he, I thinkhe was also in a movie called The Hostwhich I believe I did see.Yeah, he works with Bong Joon Ho. Yeah.I did see that. I reacted
30:59to that one while back. Oh, I want to see it.Oh, yeah. That was a good movie. It was a good movie.Scary movie, too. According towriter and director Bong Joon HoTildes Swinton played another role as well asMason. She played the woman trying to snatchthe wine bottle from Yona when sheand her dad are collecting chrono lumps
31:16from the clubbers. Funny.That's funny.Good on you, Tilda.She seems game. We'll do one.Two more. Writer and directorBong Joon Ho couldn't find the perfect actorfor Wilford until producerPark Chan Wook recommended Ed
31:31Harris. Oh, Park Chanwuk wasproducing this too. Damn. That'slike a team up there and and i mean ed harris did seem like it's funny because you were at we weresitting there speculating like who's it going to be and like you do need to have like the rightactor to be revealed behind there and and yeah like ed harris is actually like a like a perfectchoice for for who this guy is and is said to be i will give you two more actually because they'requick the north american movie poster foreshadows curtis curtis's fate curtis's lower leftis obscured in the poster.
32:08He loses that appendageduring the climax of this film.Funny.And then Octavia Spencer,who plays Tanya,shot her last scenewithout any movementuntil the take ended.
32:19That's so crazy.Because yeah,and she did a great job too,and you had to hold thatand to do the sort of likelife leaving your faceand to have your eyes openand to have to stay completely dead still
32:31is wild.Yeah.And too, like, you know,the music,Marco Beltrami, the score, I thought was really nice.It was incredible. No, it really elevated an already incredible film, but like, I lovethe way he used the piano, too, because it added a sense of dreariness and like justto the encapsulating, like, what we were already seeing on screen. So it just really, like,
32:53you felt like what you were already viscerally seeing. So it's just a really impactfulscore. It's good, yeah, when the score enhances the space rather than filling the space.For sure. For sure. It was a really memorable score for sure. And two, just I guess the last thing is, yeah, like the idea that we've tried to fight off our extinction with technology, with this train that has, you know, only carried over the worst tendencies that we have. And now, you know, the train, like this whole system of order has been crashed and we have no choice, but these two train babies going out into the world and like starting a new, like the new generation, you know, never knew the old world and can start completely fresh.if they don't freeze to death in the snow.Right.And have some food and all that stuff.Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.But, yeah.
33:41Wild.I'm excited to watch this movie again.Yeah, no, for sure.But anyways, let us know in the comments.What did you think of Snowpiercer?Is this your favorite Chris Evans' performance?We'd love to hear your thoughts down in the comments below.If you stayed with us this song, we so appreciate it.
33:54We love you guys.Stay warm out there.And we shall see you guys later.
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