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Starting point is 00:01:25 actively diving into it we'll see how that goes this is going to be good good for you. It's going to be good for the both of us. Trauma bonding. I'm excited. Let's do this thing. I have to triple check that this is. This movie is based on. Yeah, absolutely. And while you do that, I will quickly encourage our dear viewers to leave a rating on Apple or Spotify if you happen to be listening to the audio version of this. If you're about to listen to our review for Society of Snow and hey quick thank you to the folks who made this video possible yeah so it says society of snow is a 23 survival drama film based on Pablo vrc's 2009 book of the same name which details the true story of the rugby team's experience after the force the air force flight crashed in

Starting point is 00:02:19 the andy's mountains that is incredible that is insane I mean yeah I would have been surprised if this wasn't a true story. Just, you know, in America, it's always based on. Yeah, yeah. And I'm thinking of one of my favorite survival movies, which is the gray. And I know that there, I don't know if that was even pitched as being based on a true story. But that's one of those movies where you're like, I could see this not being like a true story, even though it is depicting like the survival against the elements. Whereas here, yeah, the whole time, or at least I was certainly permeated with a sense that this is shooting for an authenticity and for, you know, the capturing of a real experience.

Starting point is 00:03:10 Right. Which it is anyway, because this has happened to people anyway, but like, yeah, it seemed like these people. And especially superimposing all their names and ages seemed very intent, intentional for, yeah, representing the truth. I agree with that completely. And then also, I would almost feel weird if that was just a stylistic thing, you know. Yeah. I think the only reason, too, that this movie was even bearable to watch is that it felt like there was going to be survivors of this story, which is why it was able to be told. Like, even if it was just one person, it felt like, and I thought it was going to be Numa for a while, but it felt like that there was going to be people who made it out of this because of how appropriate.

Starting point is 00:03:54 the story was told and like how detailed. There's just so many moments that made me feel like, okay, I know that somebody makes it through this somehow. Wow, that movie was just unbelievably well shot. Yeah. What an incredible story. And it's stories like this. I feel, I don't know if you feel this way, but it's like, how do I, how have I never heard

Starting point is 00:04:16 of this? Yeah, a little bit. And I wonder if maybe I have and I just didn't, you know, until you are exposed to the deep dive into the story, you know, it doesn't take on quite the same personal impact that like, now I'm never going to forget that this happened. Right. Well, it's the 70s, though, and yeah, it's like, I'm sure if anybody, and then, hey, if you happen to have been watching this and you were around, you know, when this was in the news or if it was in the news, wherever you are in the world, like, please let us know what it was like maybe at the time to be aware

Starting point is 00:04:49 of this happening. Because, yeah, and like, in the moment, I bet a lot of people across the world we're hearing about this. I wonder if the author, you don't think the author is one of the people, do you? I would mean, double check. I'd be fascinated to know. I guess my guess would be maybe no, but, you know, it's one of those, uh, yeah, it's just so well made and, uh, and really affecting. And like I said, there are a lot of great, you know, survivalist movies, man versus the

Starting point is 00:05:18 elements movies, man versus man versus the elements movies. This says that he grew up with many of the people who were part of it. Okay. He grew up with many of the people who were involved in the 72 crash in the Andes Mountain and worked with the survivors on his 2009 nonfiction book by the same name. Yeah. And I mean, it certainly feels like it would have to be, but it certainly feels like something that was informed by the nuances of the real experience.

Starting point is 00:05:49 And I was not pleased as the wrong word, but like early on into the movie because you have, all I knew sort of was, I don't really know much of anything going into this. But when you get the sense that like, okay, so this plane's probably going to go down, they're probably going to be stranded, you know. There's a expectation, I think, especially having a bunch of young people together like, oh, this is going to turn to the Lord of the Flies quick. And like, there are things that are confronted that are similar, but it never felt like, I don't know, it just didn't feel like a blockbuster movie or a Hollywoodized version in that, like, all the struggle and all the harshness is always just kind of of the circumstance and you still get to watch everybody grapple with it and confront it and bargain with it. but it never really dipped into like mellow drama of like oh man this one guy's going crazy and you know you gotta subdue him and all sorts of and not to to slight movies that have done that or stories that involve that but yeah it's like the way that they played out a bunch of conclusions you could probably make it's like in the way they played them was really part of what was

Starting point is 00:07:03 striking to me i guess because yeah it's like you you know in any sort of survival stranded situation. Survivalism. I don't feel articulate today. No, I just watch something so difficult. Yeah. It's like I'm in a daze. Yeah. And it's like anything that forces you into a mode of survival where you're stranded and you only have what's immediately with you, you know, like instincts are going to kick in and there are going to be all sorts of things that you find out and learn about yourself that you didn't know before. And it was just so fascinating to watch them care for each other. and it's not like there's no conflict between them. It's not like they're always agreeing with each other,

Starting point is 00:07:44 but it really seemed like they were always kind of mindful of the group and always trying to kind of confront the reality of what's going on, but also clinging to the little scraps of, you know, shared humanity that create those little moments of levity, you know, between everything. Yeah, completely. I think that they, there was something really cool about watching, them be the best versions of themselves in the most horrific circumstances because we do see a lot of times like you say people turn bad there's a villain and I think that I know that this is such

Starting point is 00:08:22 a weird leap but there's a huge value in team sports sure and the fact that they come from rugby and we see that and then we see that the beginning scene with the kind of the selfishness you didn't pass it you know and like learning to learning when to be the leader when to be take a back seat like the way that I feel like the rugby team kind of set them up for like looking after one another and teamwork because you can't get through this alone and learning to communicate and you know we see them like starting off kind of joshing in the shower room and like giving each other crap and then when you have to rely on people when you've had that skill set because you come from a really difficult sport and like even the guy's legs become a factor like you're the one with the strongest

Starting point is 00:09:06 legs you've got to go on the walk they know each other's skill set. if they know who has what mind and whatnot. Not that every person there was a player on the team, but you know what I mean? I think that was, and obviously this is not, of course it's scripted, but it's not scripted in the way where that's real.

Starting point is 00:09:21 But I do think that that is part of why they were able to survive because I think that the rugby team kind of instilled values in them maybe. Yeah, well, because they know each other and they probably have, yeah, built the bond over the course of being a team, and they have a certain level of, yeah, intimacy and familiarity and a sense of how to work as a unit and then you throw these circumstances in to where like you know it's not a one to one it's not like everybody right it's not like this

Starting point is 00:09:49 the hierarchy of the team remains the same in the circumstances but yeah it's like there's already that sense memory of of us all working together towards a common goal in the very nature of what we do and what we took this trip to do and I like to yeah I hadn't even thought about that is a great point though because we start off in I mean we're going on a rugby trip so we start off in a rugby game and then yeah to see this you know from one of the harsher sports to one of the harshest circumstances imaginable right you know just to kind of give some nice little like funny not funny but like there's a there's a there's kind of an interesting irony to that it's like I always feel like rugby is often you know it just has a reputation for being like a rough and tumble sport that you got to have a kind of thick

Starting point is 00:10:35 game to play and then you know this is the kind of thing that not not everybody could play that sport and not everybody clearly could brave survive weather a situation like this i hope that somebody in the comments can um talk to me about the the lack of fire like i'm going to do some research after this on why because it's the one thing we never saw them do they made the radio they were able to like go get the battery the they figured out the food for survival the snow to get the water And this is so random. I don't know if you know that I was a Girl Scout for my whole life. I'm big into camping and survivalist things.

Starting point is 00:11:12 And of course, with the snow, it would be difficult. But I am curious. We never saw them take the suitcases, burn them, try to make fire. Like, we just see them use the little flame. And there's got to be reason for that. Something that I don't understand about this environment, right? Because otherwise, I think we would have seen them make a big ass fire at some point. Like, yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:32 I am curious about that, too. And I guess my best guess would be that maybe it behooves you to make friends with the cold because a... You can't have fire for the whole time. A, you can't have fire for the whole time and you're going to burn through probably resources that might be useful elsewhere. But in your first few days, you're not thinking, I'm going to be here 71 days. You're thinking, okay, how do I survive this week? Yeah, that's a fair point too. Yeah, I'm curious about that.

Starting point is 00:11:56 And I don't know if it's maybe the conditions. The wind. They can still light the lighter. So I would have to imagine that if they just lit something on fire, it would work. The cigarettes had no trouble lighting. So, yeah, it's a good question. That's such a weird, and it's not even a nitpick, because I'm sure this is coming from the survivors. So I'm sure there was something going on.

Starting point is 00:12:16 I just am curious because we never did address it. And I was like, huh, make fire. And then it's so weird throughout the whole film I'm suggesting what they should do. Like, I know. Yeah, well, you're like, you've cooked that meat. Like, yeah. Well, I did actually wonder about that. That too, like what the, you would think that meat needed to be cooked in order to not hurt you, I would think, because like poultry.

Starting point is 00:12:43 It depends, but yeah, and especially because it looks like poultry is like the meat, you should eat raw the least. That was some white meat, yeah. You know, and I'm wondering if that, like, if because it was frozen, that helps as opposed to cooked because you can eat frozen things or what or how exactly they had to do that. Maybe they just decided to cut it for timing purposes, but... Yeah, I don't know. And I know your body can get used to and do amazing things when desperate and deprived. The urine was wild to see, too. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:15 There's so many details like that with the belt and the urine and the things like we're watching them go through as they're drastically losing weight. The sores on their backs, that bloodshot of the eyes, you know, that they just, I feel like the effects, the, um, hair makeup team the costumes everything as it developed and the having to keep the continuity of this must have been an absolute nightmare especially for wardrobe like oh yeah there's just every dynamic like the performances we already talked about were just flawless across the board but it was like everybody gripped me everyone did their job here the music the hair makeup the costume the cinematography which incredible we were both like blown away by i can't believe you knew that they thought they were going to be like it's beautiful

Starting point is 00:14:01 well because that's so much of the movie had me thinking that is like you're constantly in this contrast of like look at how beautiful and majestic these mountain ranges are and you know how lovely the sunlight looks cresting over this peak here and oh look at this lens flare but also beautiful as this is this is probably the worst place to be trapped and like that's i think that plays into the theme of kind of like what was what's the meaning of all this like why did this happen you know it's it's just a random senseless thing and they talk about that so much too yeah yeah and it's and it's like this place is so beautiful and it's not like a one to one to that point but it is one of those things where i'm like yeah and we're we're stranded in a place that to look at it from the outside to just fly over it and behold it from above is you know one of earth's majesties you know is one of like the beautiful things about being alive and yet yeah you'll never get that view again also yeah well yeah and you'll never look at a place like that without the knowledge intimately of what it's like to live there and so yeah they just really like I felt the cold I felt the dampness of my fingers like

Starting point is 00:15:13 anytime you've ever been out in the snow you know past the point of comfort times a trillion times more than that because like yeah you could just never fathom what this is like until you're actually in the situation imagine being that man on that horse like you could have left your house 10 minutes before 10 minutes after you know you could have been two ships passing in the night i know like like the amount of of little circumstances and the fact that they made that's why they call it a miracle kind of at that point it's like it's not a miracle because look at the horrible things that happened but like the fact that you went and you at the same time you look up at the river and i'm guessing that's probably how it went pretty much i would i mean yeah i'm curious to learn more about the actual story but i'm

Starting point is 00:15:56 going to take this at face value for right now and assume that at least the broad strokes are as they appear here imagine being that guy and seeing them I mean first of all you'd probably be scared like what are these yeah who are these people like and what are their intention not knowing because at least I mean this is the 70s so people were a little more forgiving and kind then now it's like I feel like everybody's like hex on everybody else this is a different conversation for a different time but anyway I'm just glad he decided to help them like imagine if they saw him and he was like yeah like get yeah if he thought there were a threat of some kind or if he just decided like ah you know I'm just gonna I have this river between us and it's loud like you know I have to entertain any of this

Starting point is 00:16:37 yeah whatever you guys are doing that even out there he throws in the rock with the paper and the pencil he must have heard the story probably right though about the crash like and he knows he's in the andies he probably has some kind of a maybe I mean like he's far enough away that yeah it's like I wouldn't expect anybody to be like oh I might find these people right yeah it's like he's certainly no i don't think he was expecting it but maybe it isn't crosses his mind when he's throwing the paper like who are you guys but yeah yeah absolutely and i mean like it's little things like that too and i think it does nicely to like any of these stories are partly about people's perseverance people's strength of will people's strength of spirit but also i think

Starting point is 00:17:18 they're just as much about random happenstance and just like the little things that come to get in a situation so cursed with just like random bad luck as they say you know what little pieces of good luck yeah lead to the salvation for miracles yeah yeah the two monologues that we got but that main

Starting point is 00:17:40 one from that guy who's talking about like where he sees God and each of his friends and that one really was like talking about those little moments which was just unbelievable that that will stick with me yeah I really I thought this was really thoughtful because again like it's there's a lot you can do to be evocative in a man versus elements

Starting point is 00:17:59 survival kind of story uh that's easy to kind of hit people in a visceral place with but i like that this was thoughtful i like the way that this handled it's yeah like instead of just having people like go go nuts and fight each other you really do kind of sit in the psychology of like okay the early stages of faith when it's like well man people got to be out there looking right uh you and then when they hear on the radio that they're done for the year yeah Yeah, and even just like the sounds of like, oh man, is that a plane engine? You know, and just all these little things. And then, yeah, watching those ebb and flow to the point where it's like, okay, yeah, now we have to assume that we will be here indefinitely, maybe forever, maybe we won't get out, maybe we will die here.

Starting point is 00:18:39 And I thought it, yeah, made a great balance between the physical action because, you know, we have to do something. We always have to do something, whether it means figuring out how to survive the night here or once we figure that. out how to explore effectively to maybe get out. And, and when you get to that point where you're past all that, where you're past the society stuff, where like you have to rewrite the rules because that God, that thing he said, that's the God for the world we just left, you know, is the God I used to have faith in. And the God here is totally different. Hello there, esteem viewer of the real rejects. I, Greg Alba, language connoisseur, and worldly gentlemen. I'm here to bestow upon you the secrets of Babel. Babel is an engagement.

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Starting point is 00:20:55 Comunicacion. We're done with this ad. This is interesting that one of the survivors passed in 2023, and he was able to show him, Jose an early cut of it, and the 14 remaining survivors saw the film one or two months prior to the premiere. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:21:15 So that means that... What an experience that must be for them. I cannot imagine that. I hope that they felt positively about... it and proud part of me is like i hope you never have to think about this again part of me is like i would love you hear their thoughts on the movie well yeah how could you escape it and and so yeah like i like the way that that they just drew the humanity drew the questions about faith about ethics about the morality and the almost spirituality of offering up the body using all the parts you know

Starting point is 00:21:46 like giving of the people who have passed to the group uh and the things that yeah might be on conscionable to imagine. And like, you know, Numa holds out. Numa holds out. And eventually is just like, you know, I get it. I get that this is wrong. But we're in a totally different place, a totally different circumstance. And like if any of us are going to get out, we all need to be strong. We all need to make this sacrifice. You have to eat something. Like just the way it realized all those things combined with the elements. You got avalanches coming in. You got, you got people when the plane got buried. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:20 That was brutal. Yeah. The unbelievable performances in this, like the guy, Numa really reminded me, obviously, I kept saying ad driver, but Josh Hartnett as well. There was like these guys seem like they are like veteran stars of the screen. I mean, yeah. I'm super curious what other things that they've done. It was like every one of them.

Starting point is 00:22:43 Truly, this ensemble, if there's an award, you know, I saw they were in Venice Film Festival. They should have won best ensemble for every festival they were in. This is truly, yeah, like an ensemble. As much as, yeah, there are like... The brothers. People I remember in particular are standout characters. Like, it really does.

Starting point is 00:23:06 And I think there is something being, you know, American viewers, English language viewers, watching something like this with actors we don't know. In a language we don't speak fluently anyway, or I don't speak fluently. like there is a kind of way in which that can i think just let the ensemble be what it is in a way that's really kind of beautiful and that speaks and it just accentuates all the performances here and this yeah there was not one person on the screen who pulled me out or who didn't feel

Starting point is 00:23:34 like they were completely in the reality of you know the story anyway and and uh like the i'm just really impressed i guess because too like the amount of team building and the amount work these actors must have had to do like making any movie is a bonding experience and is a big undertaking and is you know kind of like leading an army many people have likened it to but this seems like something where in a very very particular way a cast and by extension to some degree the crew would have to probably go through a bit of a bonding trial by fire in making this and to get to those places where you can sell those emotions where where was this shot I mean they said that part of it was shot at the actual crash site

Starting point is 00:24:19 in the Andes. Photography took place in Sierra Nevada, Spain, Montevideo, Uruguay, Chile, and Argentina. Including the actual crash site. Yeah. That's wild. It's 138 shooting days. 138 shooting days.

Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah. Yeah, probably for weather, a lot of it, too. Yeah, and I mean, it looks, it looked authentic in terms of like, it didn't seem like they were, shooting at least in any kind of you know digital scenario it looked like they were almost always i'm sure stuff was sweetened and the plane crash the plane crash was so hard hitting like and i've seen we've seen a lot of you know it's like lost for a second it felt unreal yeah and just like

Starting point is 00:25:05 the way they showed that just like the the seats compacting and people getting stabbed by things and bones breaking and just like it's so visceral and it calls on the aspect of the of J.A. Biona's filmog that are more horror-leaning, but again, this feels like a natural thing to do for somebody who knows how to do horror, but

Starting point is 00:25:28 who also seems to have a good grip on emotionality and is thoughtful. It's like, I wouldn't necessarily want to see this movie in the hands of somebody who can't be thoughtful about it, and it's like there's so much that's foreboding and scary and eerie, and that again calls upon those flourishes

Starting point is 00:25:45 that a horror director might have in their bag, but also like, yeah, the amount of just the way in which it really immersed you in the time and place, it made the setting kind of its own character, but also really just took the care to accentuate, again, the humanity of it all and to really put you in the heavy moments and the light moments just as much. Like I like that even though you can kind of go like, oh, you know, I'm starting to worry because we're in a moment of levity or we're in a moment where everybody's kind of forgetting for a moment, even those I was just so pulled into and I feel like it would be easy to make a version of this movie that's mostly about the physical

Starting point is 00:26:25 and that's effective. But I feel like this, at least here in the afterglow of the original first viewing experience, you know, has absolutely all that stuff. But it's also like left me in a reflective place right now and really feeling again for all the people and the humanity and the fact that, yeah, what they have gone through here changes you forever and it's, yeah, that's surreal thing of like we've been brought back. We are being hailed as heroes,

Starting point is 00:26:52 but really for each and every one of us, we were there every moment every day, every hour. So it's going to be this, I can't even imagine what it would be like to untangle a not like this experience within your body, mind, and soul. Of course. And it really conveys that.

Starting point is 00:27:09 And I think that it's an interesting, choice and a conscientious choice to have Numa be the narrator because I think there's something kind of interesting and pointed about having our eyeline be somebody who doesn't make it. And so even though this is comprised of the stories as accounted for by the survivors, it does feel kind of even a little bit beyond that too in a way that I think is lovely. And again, just speaks to the spirit of the movie because, yeah, have such a prominent character who is such a huge instrumental part of them getting out who is kind of like alive with you in the fact that that is true because again you know it's it's that god

Starting point is 00:27:55 thing again of like yeah this this work he put in you know and and encouraging that he did toward everybody else you know kind of helps carry things through and gives you like nando and and and you know the other guy he's with the good runner guy like that gives them the boost and watching everybody's mental states ebb and flow and watching some people who you think might not be able to handle this at first rise to the occasion and watching other people who start out stronger, you know, maybe just hit the wrong sequence of events or whatever. Again, yeah, it was really, really striking and really alive for how desolate it all is. This, obviously, we talked a little bit about it being a festival movie, but it was on Netflix. One of the things I will say is that I think

Starting point is 00:28:40 that does make it very accessible for people to watch, but I do think that this could have really been used to be seen on the big screen. Like, the way that it looked, I mean... It's not one where I... Not to be like, yeah, but... I know, I don't know how to phrase that better, but just, like, the cinematography in this was, like,

Starting point is 00:29:00 just unbelievable. The degree to which I was immersed here on a pretty nice-sized TV, but here, you know, I can only imagine how much moreover and visceral it would be on a big screen because too especially that one bit where it cuts to black and all you have is the sound for a little while of the snowpack and everything and even those moments where you can hear i liked you see people eat and you see the aftermath of people being eaten but i like that they didn't relish in that stuff and there are times where yeah you can just hear it and it gets under your skin and so those those elements or they're the choice moments where they would do a hard hard cut to either, you know, something contrasting or to silence or, you know, there were a lot of visceral editing moments, too, where, yeah, I feel like in a theater scenario with the whole thing enveloping you, you would be that much more sort of arrested in those moments.

Starting point is 00:30:00 So, yeah, it's like as much as, again, this is harsh and harrowing, I would, I hope before I die, I could maybe see this on a big screen because, yeah, and to, you know, even though, this is a trauma that I'm sure so many people would want to forget, or at least the people involved would want to forget, like it does speak to something. It's weird. It's like there is more than a lot of survival movies, and I haven't seen every survival movie, but more than what I remember of the ones I've seen, this does have a greater sort of spiritual timbre to it, or something that makes me feel like, I am exhausted in all the ways you are and should be after a story like this.

Starting point is 00:30:40 But I am also like a little bit more, I don't know, along with that, I have a greater sort of appreciation for the good sides or the parts that are inspiring or the parts that are triumphant, even though, I mean, they don't overshadow again how harrowing and how tragic and how, you know, just insanely difficult on the human anatomy me mind everything that this is like there is something about the triumph toward the end that just feels a little more spiritually sound and earned than I'm used to feeling after I don't even know how to put it in words I think that they started the thing by saying is this a like the biggest

Starting point is 00:31:25 tragedy or a miracle and that's kind of what you're expressing at the end it depends who you are who you are and how you're looking at it um this is interesting too that the the the The Pans Labrith team is the one who did the corpses and wounds creating prosthetics, which they, it like was, everything looked unbelievable. It is so strange to talk about this because these are real people and that's really what happened. So it's like to be like, this looks incredible. It's like it's really more about the story, but the team really did justice to the story. And I think that's why it did take so long. You know, it's four and a half month they were in production.

Starting point is 00:32:04 says and then they were in post-production for a really long time that's they really did justice to the the people the survivors of this and the people who passed too I think it really does feel that way it doesn't feel exploitative to me it does feel I don't know I mean if I was in a situation like this I again not knowing the specific details of what the actual people went through if I saw some something like this realized, I mean, you know, I think it would certainly strike me. I think it would certainly be like, wow, you know, you certainly captured some level of the authenticity, because again, they would have had some of those pictures to work off of. And we have tons of

Starting point is 00:32:50 research scientifically about what happens in these situations. And it is, it's movie, it's still the movie magic, you know, it's the combination and the collision of all these departments. It's, yeah, it's the writing and the adaptation of the story. It's the direction. Of everything, you know, again, hats off to Jay, Biona, it's the cast, it's the music, it's the editing, it's the makeup, it's the locations, it's all that stuff, really working in tandem. But they previously made a movie in 1993 called Alive starring Ethan Hawke, that was this story. Really? Where are you seeing this? Second from the top. The true story told in this film was previously made into the movies

Starting point is 00:33:30 alive, starring Ethan Hawk and Survive. Oh, wow. It's subject to several documentaries. I can't imagine that that was as effective as this. No. I don't know. I mean, you know, if there's a different version of this story, you guys have seen and you're here at this point in the video.

Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah, let us know. I haven't heard of survive with an exclamation point. Or alive. Or alive, actually. But I mean, this certainly seems like the definitive version of the story. Apparently, according to the IMDB trivia, they filmed it in chronological order to allow the characters, the actors,

Starting point is 00:34:05 to steadily lose weight and accurately portray the effects of starvation. That too, man. You could tell. Yeah, you could tell. Especially Numa toward the end, like how gone, how, how, you know, just his cheeks are so sunken by the end.

Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, you could really tell that. And the director also said the particular attention was paid to the sound to reproduce the silence and the noises of the snow and high mountain, including conversations with specialized guides used to those climates. Yeah, like it, again, it's so many nuances, because once you get out into the snow,

Starting point is 00:34:37 you know, if you've ever been in the snow, you know, it's a very nuanced soundscape. And I thought, again, I was frequently struck with the sound mix, not just the score music, but like the actual sounds they were going with and the way that they were bringing it to life, you know, at times with just sound. Yeah. Right. You can visit the crash site through an organized annual tour in February. You see. Alpine expeditions and the organizers with an expert guide, Ricardo Pena, and they go back each year with one of the survivors, Eduardo Strouch, takes three days and involves going by four-wheel drive, horse, and on foot.

Starting point is 00:35:15 Altitude sickness is always a concern for anyone visiting the area. That is wild. It is wild. I don't know. I hope he makes a ton of money doing that or something or get something out of that. I mean he must There must be something in it for him I guess that's one thing you do after an event like this

Starting point is 00:35:35 Yeah The movie depicts the flight crashing on the same day It left Uruguay in real life The flight actually had to make an overnight stopover In Mendoza Argentina Due to bad weather Over the Andes Argentinian law states

Starting point is 00:35:48 That a foreign military craft is allowed On their soil for only 24 hours So pilot had to either return to Uruguay Or continue on to Chile The next day the pilots decided and although the weather over the Andes was not perfect, it had improved enough to continue on to Chile. This leg of the trip led to the accident.

Starting point is 00:36:07 That is also wild. I get why they maybe cut it for time. At the same time, I could imagine them including it and it being just as harsh and harrowing. Man, any extra stray thought? I feel like I'm dumping a word salad out. No, no. I feel like this is a good way to be left after.

Starting point is 00:36:27 for a movie or you shouldn't know exactly as much as we're in the market of needing to know exactly what you think and feel and what to say once the movie's done this is one of those movies I very much appreciate when this happens where I'm sitting here and I'm like yeah I'm going to need some time just to let this trickle through my system I'm going to process and and you know I'm you know like I am confident in the thoughts we've laid out here you know certainly I certainly know a good amount of how I feel but some of it just feels like I won't have the right words to describe the experience until I've, you know, sat with it. I hear you. But yeah, this was a tour to force. This was really well done. And I'm impressed, especially, I mean,

Starting point is 00:37:08 not to slag Netflix, obviously. Netflix makes some good stuff. But like this, this, you know, feels like a real, you know, standout movie of the year, a real cinematic achievement of the year and something that, I mean, yeah, Netflix has their prestige stuff. They also have a ton of stuff that, you know, produce and then shove on the platform. And this certainly, if you didn't tell me that Netflix, like, you know, bankrolled this or whatever, I wouldn't have necessarily known. Like, this just felt like, you know, a full-ass movie. And I'm excited to see some of his other stuff that's not Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom.

Starting point is 00:37:46 I want to see a monster calls. I'll never forget the orphanage. I saw that in the theater back in the DIA. But yeah, anything else you want to say before we hit it? No, let's hit it, man. Gang, thank you so much for joining us. Leave us your thoughts on this. This was quite, quite, quite an experience and a terrific one at that, a harsh one, but it's really unbelievable job.

Starting point is 00:38:08 Really incredible filmmaking. So, yeah, leave us your thoughts, and we will catch you next time. Much love for now. Go find someone you love and hug them. Peace.

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