The Reel Rejects - SOUTHPAW (2015) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:12 Nope. Let's do this thing. Let's go Roadhouse. All right. Let's do it. Do it. Wow. And Terry Claiborne, the fight coordinator and trainer to Mr.

Starting point is 00:01:25 Gillen. Again, we're going to read the trivia facts when we get. I'm hoping that it. It gives the regimen because Jake Gyllenhaal the insane shape he got and I'm curious what it was, but I can imagine it was very insane. Again, I had only just heard how good this film was, but I didn't know anything about it. I thought it was just simple boxer film and I thought they were going to go the generic route because, I mean, at the beginning I thought they were just setting us up for, okay, he's a little over the hill, which kind of he was. um and you know he's going to let his ego get in the way and which he did and i just thought like okay he's going to lose a match and he's got to you know again the formulae crowd okay now he's got

Starting point is 00:02:09 to build himself back up and he's just got to get back in the ring i didn't think we were going to go the subversion of expectations in my mind of what happened to marines yeah exactly and i mean it's still a fallen rise but yeah but and and it was interesting too how they like you know with Jake Jonell's character how like his ego and his anger got the better of him and again I understand where he was coming from like if someone if I was married and someone said

Starting point is 00:02:38 the disrespectful things and again they're just words at the end of the day you got to just try and let those things go you know but that was you're in the business of not letting shit like yeah yeah and I understand again I understand even though his wife was trying to hold him back say hey let's just walk away and having to deal with that I mean again she was the glue that held their

Starting point is 00:02:58 family together and held him together as well. They really did a good job in the first 15, 20 minutes of establishing just how important she was to him. And then, you know, they grew up. Yeah, to the both of them. Yeah, to the both. Well, yeah, his daughter, too. I just meant firstly to Jake, to Billy. And, you know, how they both had, you know, such tough backstories, you know, growing up in the system and just like they relate to each other. And just like, again, she just really runs his life in and just as such a positive influence and force for him and just looks out for his well-being. Yeah, it's like she really knows how to like help buffer

Starting point is 00:03:32 the rest of the world around him. Yeah, so I mean, I thought that was unfortunately, even though I didn't want anything to happen to her, from a dramatic and story point of view, that was the right choice that they ended up making even though, again, I did not want that to happen. And again, like you said, dramatic subversion of expectations,

Starting point is 00:03:52 I was not expecting this film to go that way. such a damn touching film and the way this character had to build himself up from that and everything he was dealing with like the mental turmoil just from his wife and then everything else he was going through he felt like it just everything was crumbling around him uh losing his daughter and then like losing his home i mean like this guy lost everything lost his box i mean everything that was dear to him and to still find a way to build himself up i just thought like this movie no pun intended Sorry, I'm going to say it, it gave me hope while I was watching it. And I just...

Starting point is 00:04:28 Oh, it's definitely a triumph of the human spirit kind of story. It just drags you to the depths before allowing you the catharsis. But yeah, I mean, absolutely. Yeah, and Jake Gyllenhaal, I mean, the acting was... Even the guy who played the Miguel, I mean, you hate his guts. He did a great job. But Jake Gyllenhaal just, I really felt every bit of his friend. And the little girl, too, I mean, we saw Man on Fire.

Starting point is 00:04:53 And I was so impressed with Dakota Fanning. And this little girl, too, sorry, I'm not, I'm blanking right now. And the actress is named, she did a good job. They did such great cast. And you can instantly feel the history and the chemistry from them. I mean, I wonder how they- Those emotional scenes just real, I mean, I was at least three or four different times where I was just so, just crying.

Starting point is 00:05:13 I was so damn touched by so many different scenes in this film. Oh, yeah, man. And again, I just, like I said, when we got into this, I was like, oh, it's going to be a good boxer film. Okay, I'm ready to get pumped up. Let's get it. I'm like, ah, I'm crying. This is insane.

Starting point is 00:05:27 Well, yeah, and that's the thing is, is, you know, so many boxing movies are emotional and they do involve, you know, circumstances that are, you know, challenging as well as challenging in the ring. And, yeah, early on, I started to wonder, because, you know, it's like some of the creed movies are fresh in my mind and things like that. And then I think, you know, Rocky Creed, stuff like that is like oftentimes the first thing that you think of. And those movies, certainly, to some degree, get, you know, dramatic. And they do bring the weight of, again, it's all about, and in sports. You know, a lot of gets made of that, the personal struggle, the personal journey. What are you fighting for when you're in the ring? But yeah, this really struck me and took me by surprise and just, yeah, gave me a whole array of emotions I was.

Starting point is 00:06:22 wasn't, I wasn't expecting to, like, cry through this, you know? Yeah. It's like, this is, I think any boxing movie does certainly appeals to that part of you, that shared catharsis of, you know, an underdog, you know, throw in the punch and knocking out, you know, the favorite or whatever, or, you know, somebody, again, you know what they're fighting for in the ring. So we get that shared catharsis of all that coming out just through, you know, sheer physical action.

Starting point is 00:06:47 And, and often the contrast of like, okay, this guy doesn't communicate very well. with the rest of the world, but he is, you know, this is his mode of communication, is in the ring is fighting. And I thought, yeah, like, without being so, like, forward about, like, the point is we're playing off the expectations of the genre. But, you know, watching it, you do get a sense of like, okay, yeah, we're going to do a boxing movie, for sure, with some of the dynamics that you're used to seeing in a boxing movie. However, we're going to go to, like, the most tangible feeling personally heartbreaking version of this

Starting point is 00:07:24 and yeah having it be this scuffle breaking out and it's like okay these two guys have armed security on their squad and you know in the chaos and confusion of a moment like that that blurs the lines between the show and reality when he steps up to him and Billy kind of snubs Miguel and walks away from Victor and that was Victor Ortiz

Starting point is 00:07:47 like you know the way he walks away from him, prompting him to go further and to get personal and to start shouting, you know, and, you know, saying some pretty harsh and vile things, you know, and hitting him in a place that he knows we'll get a reaction. And just, like, the tragedy of that is fascinating because, like you said, you know, Marine is the glue that holds their family together. She's so much of the heart. And then after all this happens, you watch the fallout of like, especially Billy because he's your lead, but also Layla, both kind of having their heart. ripped out and in this, you know, just place of emptiness and despair and for Billy, you know,

Starting point is 00:08:26 self-destruction, literal self-destruction. And then watching as they both kind of have to, and again, because it's, you know, following mainly Billy, especially him, you know, basically having to confront, basically having to learn how to take care of yourself, you know, how to interface with the world, like learning the skills to interface with the world around you, but also, learning, you know, that level of heart and that level of, you know, sort of, I don't even know what to call it, like, mental, mindful, just balance to be able to, yeah, mind over matter, not let yourself get caught up in the heat of an emotion and make a rash decision that's going to boil over. Like, I loved the conversations briefly between him and Forrest Whitaker when he says, like, what did you do to get here? Like, and you're, like, they rode so many great volatile, lines because the whole time with bill you're like is he going to be able to receive any of this information like this is a guy who's already not used to being patient and not used to talking things out who is being put through all these legal proceedings and all these things where he has to

Starting point is 00:09:34 show that he's making these improvements that he's not really concerned with actually making because he just wants to die and like all that came together into something that was so compelling and so well acted and so well shot and edited and like the way that Again, Antoine Fouk was, like, the way they point the camera, the way they cut the scenes. Like, you really feel like you're a fly on the wall for so much of it, but you also feel just like, you know, neck deep in the emotionality. Yeah, and that was a great scene, too, between him and Forrest Whitaker. He was like, what got you here? And it's like, and then once he threw the cherries, like, exactly.

Starting point is 00:10:09 And then, like, you thought, like, you knew that was going to have to be a major character arc for him to get over that. And that almost cost him in that final match, too, because he got, uh, with, uh, with, uh, Um, uh, Miguel's character. He got, you know, he said, who I want to make a correction because that's not, uh, Victor Ortiz. I apologize. Miguel, I think that guy must be. Uh, Miguel, Miguel Gomez. Miguel, Miguel Gomez is, yeah. Yeah. So, um, and, you know, with his character, because like, at that point, like, he's like, okay, this guy is definitely clearly better than I was expecting, especially at this point. So I got to get back into his head now. I got to try and, you know, mind manipulate him to get him out of his game. And, I, Again, I think that's just part of his character with Billy's character arc of just letting go of that anger, letting go of his ego. You know, that's what got him down in the ground in the bad position that he got into. And I just, I thought that was just really well executed and really well written. And Jake Gyllenall just did a good job of showing that he had grown from that because it's so easy to hit someone, especially in that, again, in that situation, like, you know, ripping on someone for, and also being part of the problem. why his wife was shot.

Starting point is 00:11:21 I mean, it's so easy for Billy to go to anger in that, in that situation. And to take no accountability for that. And obviously, like, it should never have happened. It's not all your fault, but clearly this could have been avoided with the benefit of hindsight especially, you know, it's clear that, yeah, that regardless, something you did, something about the way you approach life played a role in that. I mean, yeah, there was a lot of regretfulness and hindsight stuff. I mean, you have the other thing with Hoppy, too, which I was not expecting again.

Starting point is 00:11:51 I mean, obviously, we had heard, like, the whole boyfriend with the mom or whatever the situation was. Yeah, we get a sense for his situation. Yeah. And then, then we get the news. I mean, this film just really ripped out your heart and, I mean, for me, and I know for you, I'm sure for many of you, you just really ripped your heart and soul. Yeah. And then by the end.

Starting point is 00:12:11 And without being, without, to me, feeling like, melodramatic or, or cloying or manipulative. No, not at all. Yeah, but I mean, again, but also still feeling touching and and satisfying in the end when finally I'm like, oh my God, this guy deserves a win at the end of this thing. And he earned it. Yeah, not just the win. I'm not talking like the actual win of which he deserved that too. I'm talking about the spiritual win. Yeah. Like I was like, oh my God, this guy like everything he's fought for mentally and physically like, thank God. It's kind of like again, it's funny. I'm going to mention this. too, because Jake Jelinell was almost cast in this movie. I'm going, I always referenced back to Spider-Man too. Like, Peter Parker is just absolutely beaten down to crap in that movie, mentally and physically, everything he goes through. Like, yeah, he's got, he's Spider-Man. He's got the freaking coolest powers in the world.

Starting point is 00:13:06 He's a god, basically. But if you think about everything he goes through in that film, like, just seeing Mary Jane get engaged, like, just he can't catch a break in that movie for the most part. And then by the end of it, you're like, thank God, yes. You feel so satisfied for him to finally get the win. And in this film, like, I felt the same way for Billy. I'm like, I mean, and again, at the beginning, like, you're like, okay, I love the family dynamic. Yeah, he's a little over the hill in terms of the boxing. I mean, he's got to get, I mean, at least he's got his wife there to keep him in check.

Starting point is 00:13:38 And like to, because obviously, you know, 50 cent for as great of a job as he's doing, at least his character, he cares more about the money than he does his friend or, you know. I mean, bottom line is money for him. Yeah, and I get that. He's running a business, but still, you can still care about money and still be a human being at the same point. Not under capitalism in America, Andrew. Apparently not. But, and also, too, that was interesting, too, that the, the, his entourage, like in, in Pilly's moment of need or just said, all right, this dude's gone. We're, we're out of here, too.

Starting point is 00:14:10 Well, and I mean, he chased off the one guy because, you know, that whole thing about, like, you were supposed to protect me and all that stuff. But that was the guy that still stuck with him, right? Was it? I'm pretty sure it was. I mean, everything happened so quickly. And that's the thing is, yeah, you see some of his entourage in the crowd again at the end. And they cut to them like a time or two. And, yeah, but it does seem like, yeah, it's the one guy who really does.

Starting point is 00:14:33 It is the one guy in his crew. Everyone's like, we family. You know, it's all about family. And he's the one guy who proves that. Yeah, for sure. And again, just adding to touching moments, like where he offered him as I said, hey, it wasn't about the money. I just, I loved you, and they offered him the, the Carrier watch, right?

Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, and Cardier, excuse me, the Cartier watch. And that's a great moment, too, because it's like that would be some easy money, but, you know, I am actually, this character is now accepting the hard work and discipline to really take control and fix his own circumstance. Yeah, he's got a humble himself. Not just take an easy way out or an easy windfall of cash, yeah. Yeah, and, yeah, and also, too, the music by James Horner. so sad this was probably one of his last films but he just does such a good job of sucking you into the emotion with his music

Starting point is 00:15:20 while at the same time giving you exhilarating action music at the same point with the boxing sequences gotta miss him he is some of my favorite scores from aliens to Titanic and Braveheart so many classics from him he's so dearly, Avatar so many but again another gem from James Horner and that Eminem Needle Drop.

Starting point is 00:15:43 Right. And Antoine Fuqua, just, I mean, again, I've only seen Training Day, which you and I really loved. He just is a hell of a director. He really does a good job getting such phenomenal performances out of his actors. Obviously, he's got some, he picks talented ones, but he gets great performances out of them. And I just, I really found, yeah, sorry, go ahead. And no, and he constructs a really evocative, energetic piece, especially in something like this, that puts you again in the chaos of the moment

Starting point is 00:16:13 just as a fly in the wall, but also, yeah, in the emotion of all of the overlapping stakes. And again, too, it can feel very repetitive when you watch so many different boxing films. So I thought the choreography was really done very well here, but it also was emotional as well. You know what I mean when you're watching these fights? Just because how invested you are in this character

Starting point is 00:16:33 and everything he's fighting for too at this point. Like, it's very emotional stakes as well. So I thought all that was done. The fight choreography done so well. I mean, there was just so many different layers and tangents. And like I said, Jake Gyllenhaal's character, Billy Hope, he's fleshed out so well on this. I loved his character arc that he had to go through.

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Starting point is 00:18:37 People love Gyllenhaal, and I like the more of these movies I see, like, you know, Prisoners is one of my favorite film performances. I've never seen it. It's worth a watch, my friend. Yeah, I think we have it on our list for me to watch one day. He's terrific in that, and this is another instance of his mastery, I think, over mannerisms and, like, really slipping into a character. Yeah. Just the way he plays the brain fog and the way he plays this guy's attitude and just the person that he had to become for this. Yeah, no, not only the person he had to become, but the training, I mean, there's just so many different, I have such respect for the performance he, excuse me, the performance he gave from this film was so impressed with him. I mean, I know it's hard to say, like, I can't believe him's still impressed with Jake Gyllen because he always gives such incredible performances, but no, yeah. He's phenomenal on this. Yeah, he, this, like he, there are everyone contributing to this is capable, so not to suggest that he carries the movie and no one else leaves an impression. But, but no, he does have to, like, carry so much. But, he does have to, like, carry so much.

Starting point is 00:19:36 much of this. And it is like a testament to just how strong that character was built. And I was constantly wondering, because Rachel McAdams, too, like she's such a brief presence, but she leaves a huge impact. And she looms. Her absence is always felt. And I would love to hear more about how they built the relationship of the three of them, because obviously it would have to be a lot of building and trust and stuff between Jake Gyllenhaal and Una Lawrence, who played Layla. But also, you know, you have to do some of that building with Rachel McAdams as well so that all your character stuff is kind of you need to have those moments where they're all together and just a family for a minute and those felt so natural. And then when she's gone, you know, I bought, you know, the wreckage of what used to be through all that, you know, collective effort of the performances and the writing and all that stuff. Forrest Whitaker.

Starting point is 00:20:27 I was just about to say, and I love the chemistry between him and Jake Gyllenhaal and all their interactions were so good together. He was such an integral part of just helping build up Billy's character back up again. And I love, I love, too. There was one specific scene where he talked about like how, or Billy talked about he fought against one of his fighters. And he was the trainer, or he was the trainer, right? Is that what he was? The only guy who ever beat me. Yeah, but I still won the match.

Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah, but we paid him, I guess one of my guys paid off the judges or something like that. Yeah, that's what he implied at least. probably what happened but spiritually at least it's clear he beat me yeah so i guess that could that was kind of a foreshadowing for us in terms of not that you know in the end match that they that uh somebody was going to get paid off but that we were going to win via a points thing yeah because he deserved the win finally yeah not only do i remember all the training from before you know with with my old crew but now i have the additional you know uh uh i have the addition to my arsenal of of of your approach,

Starting point is 00:21:33 which was already able to sneak past mine. For sure. With both of these combined. And that was such a touch. Again, I keep mentioning this word, but it's so touching when he gave him the belt

Starting point is 00:21:43 because he does not get that belt without Forrest Whitaker. I mean, it was so integral in terms of the... And I thought Naomi Harris, I know she wasn't in the film of time, but she was fantastic too, as always.

Starting point is 00:21:54 She's great. And I thought that was so sweet how she brought the daughter to Vegas with her. I mean... Yeah, and the movie didn't feel the need to like make those characters cartoons or or to talk down on those characters necessarily because I you know a lot of people don't want to be dealing with judges or lawyers or social

Starting point is 00:22:11 workers you know they're often the the mediators of a very harsh and traumatic situation and yeah I appreciated her presence and I mean you can probably say there's there's a chance that her and uh Jake John Billy maybe you know ended up together who knows get together and yeah well romantic comments. Yeah, no, I'm not saying. Jake opens his own gym. I don't meet it like. I just mean, he's going to have a happy ending, you know, with her.

Starting point is 00:22:39 Because obviously I don't want him to be sad the rest of his life. Although Marine's always going to be in his heart. Oh, sure. All right. Yeah. Let's do some trips. Yeah, read off some facts. All right.

Starting point is 00:22:51 Let's see. Fill us up. I want to see some training regimen stuff. Let's see. Yeah. I want to know how many pushups Jake Gyllenon can do. Antoine Fuqua had. no money to pay James Horner to compose the film due to the film's short budget. However,

Starting point is 00:23:06 Horner did not care as he loved the idea of the film and he decided to do it for free. Damn! James Horner, you are a god. You were a god son. Wow. Okay. Respect. That is crazy.

Starting point is 00:23:19 Good man. Well, that means you know you had a good story on your hands when one of the greatest composers, like, I'll just do it for free. Yeah. It's like the trainer who came in partway with you. Right? Eminem was originally scouted for the role, which, wait, Eminem was originally scouting for the role, which he accepted and started filming. The film had to be put on hold as Eminem wanted to focus on his music career. So the role was given to Jake Chillon Hall.

Starting point is 00:23:48 Wow. I think I vaguely remember hearing this now. I'm not, nothing against Eminem. I really did love him in, I'm blanking right now. What's with the Curtis Hanson film? The interview. Eight Mile. Eight Mile.

Starting point is 00:24:03 Thank you. I was completely blanking. I loved him in eight miles. B. Rabbit? Yeah. Okay. See, I remember that.

Starting point is 00:24:11 He was great in that. I don't like Jake Jell and how better in this, though. I think, I'm sure he wouldn't have done a serviceable job. I would love to see some of that footage because, you know, I mean, like in a situation like this, the times I've seen him act, you know, certainly can channel some of this stuff. Although it does make you wonder, like, would his performance be as dynamic and as layered as, you know, immersive as Jill and Hulls? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:36 And I'm not sure. And again, that's not a disrespect to Eminem. He's a very capable of. He's going to drop a disc track just aimed at you and me. Just hit me, right? Oh, you both. Some prints of the film at the end of the credits have in memory of our friend James Horner, which we saw, who died in a plane crash days before the film. Oh, that's right.

Starting point is 00:24:55 I didn't know it was a plane crash. I completely forgot about that. Oh, wow. Wowy. Jeez. What a way to go. Since Jake Gyllenhaal had to lose 30 pounds for his role in Nightcrawler, love that song, directed by Renee Russo's husband.

Starting point is 00:25:13 He only needed to gain 15 pounds for the role of Billy Hope by training twice a day, seven days a week. Sure. So you still had to throw down that regimen. Yeah, he probably is just packing muscle on now. Yeah. Because he was twiggy in the night crawler. All right.

Starting point is 00:25:29 We'll give you three more and we'll call it a day. Yes, sir. Southpaw has the term given to unorthodox stance, left-handed boxers. However, Jake Gyllenhaal is right-handed, therefore orthodox. He only adopts the Southpaw stance in the final fight under instruction from his trainer, Tick. Eminem was originally cast as Billy Hope and is left-handed, making the film title more suitable. Dang! All right.

Starting point is 00:25:53 That's crazy. The film was literally written for Eminem. It was originally based on the specific details of Eminem's life and then he couldn't do it. We can only do this with a lefty. Wowy. So for five months, here we go. We're going to get some training regimen. For five months, Jake Gyllenhaal undertook a daily routine of 2,000 sit-ups, 200 push-ups, and squats, 100 pull-ups, and a six-mile run for this role.

Starting point is 00:26:24 Okay, I can do 10 to 12 pull-ups and I'm done, but 100 pull-ups, damn, and 2,000 sit-ups and 200 push-ups as well. Geez, I believe it. Looking at his abzol film, like, I believe this. That's insanity. That really is crazy. Oh, my goodness. All right, let me find one more good one. Last one, Andrew, and then we're Audi 5A4.

Starting point is 00:26:44 Okay. Oh, okay. The film was originally considered as an unofficial follow-up to the movie. the movie eight mile with Eminem reprising his role. The script eventually evolved and that was, and that idea was scrapped. All right. So in some alternative universe, this is what happened to Be Rabbit after the ending of that film. He went from.

Starting point is 00:27:08 So many questions. Yeah, that to a boxer, I guess. Truly some fascinating trivia. Yeah. Yeah. No, my pleasure. But overall, again, I was just floored by this film. It was extremely incredible.

Starting point is 00:27:22 the dramatic subversion of expectations, Jake Gyllenhaal's performance, and what was the little girl's name again? Una Lawrence, I believe, right? Una Lawrence, she was fantastic. Her camera, and Rachel McAdams, the short amount of screen time, again, you just feel her presence

Starting point is 00:27:40 all throughout the film, even when she's not there anymore, and Forrest Whitaker. Everyone was fantastic, really brought their A-game, Antoine Fukua, great job, cinematography, music from James Horner. I can't believe you did it for free,

Starting point is 00:27:50 but thank goodness he was a part of it. So sad that he didn't get to see the final film, although I'm sure he got to see parts of it. But again, triumphant film. I really enjoyed it. And again, it really, yeah, it just shows that, you know, the human spirit, like, can endure and endure anything.

Starting point is 00:28:10 So very, very wonderful film. I was just really impressed. Gonna set it better myself, sir. Got any final thoughts? No, just leave us yours in the comments, people. Let us know some of your favorite boxing films. Does this rank up there? Let us also know some other films in this genre or vein or other boxer films, whatever, that you'd like.

Starting point is 00:28:31 Jake Schellenhall films that you'd like us to react to. And, yeah, we will catch you guys later. Take care. Chris swam off. I know what you're doing for spring break. You are treating your beautiful fiancé. to some good karaoke tunes. Rest in peace, the inventor just died.

Starting point is 00:28:56 I know that you right now are treating her to a delicious, a jolly bee commercial. You are showing her all the greatest commercials making her cry, so she feels so vulnerable. And when she is feeling that vulnerability, that's when you swoop in. Finally, she's like, Chris,

Starting point is 00:29:16 we have to wait till marriage. No, no, no. you sick manipulator you you keep touting yourself as this given altruistic philanthropist of sorts is just like let me just constantly give up everything about me because I'm so selfless that I'm going to give thousands of dollars to real rejects and charities that really deserve it now okay okay yeah we know it's just to get attention so you could finally get laid and you know what? It might actually pan out for you this time. I think she's just doing it out of pity personally. I mean, get it how you can get it. Because let's face it, man. I've seen your

Starting point is 00:29:57 fiance. Woo! Wow. If she did not have to begrudgingly not be single right now, she'd be out settle hard. On Springbrain and wow she will be getting so much action and now

Starting point is 00:30:19 you have guilted her and is staying with you jeez man here's the thing though I respect the game

Starting point is 00:30:27 Chris respect it my wife hasn't made love to me in several years but I've learned a thing or two from you

Starting point is 00:30:35 about how to get it done and I'm thinking in about two more months I might actually I actually get some action that long game talking some heavy heavy back rubs

Starting point is 00:30:49 you know what I mean I might actually be able to work them nuts out able to get a little I might let me massage her finally and that's all because I've watched you author of the game over here nasty

Starting point is 00:31:06 the Whamhoff method I don't actually know what your wife looks like but I imagine she's beautiful yeah it's just an AI amalgamated image and I can't wait for you guys to get married every Filipino it's going to be amazing and we love you your wife's hot

Starting point is 00:31:38 Thank you.

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