The Reel Rejects - SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN 2x11, 12, & 13 REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:01:34 I'm stalling, John. I don't mind. You can stall as long as you want, Coydus. Because I know once this intro's done, we're going to watch 11, 12, and 13. And that's it. Lucky 13. I'm going to enjoy this hour. We're going to enjoy it.

Starting point is 00:01:50 But at what cost? At what cost? We're going to play them. Three. Two. Bye Spider-Man. Ah! No.

Starting point is 00:02:05 That's how it ends. No. So much promise. No. So many opportunities to come. We even got a cemetery shot as this tradition. God. I can't.

Starting point is 00:02:20 Final curtain. I can't. It's called final curtain. I can't call it. What a great show. I can't. do it. No. Damn you Culver Entertainment and

Starting point is 00:02:29 Sony Pictures. I'm going to spend so much time reading about what the other seasons were going to be. I'm sure there's leaks. I'm sure there's some data. I hope there's interviews. Well, part of me is like did they ever maybe take some of that and like turn it into comics? I don't know if they legally could. If they owned it

Starting point is 00:02:45 of course. Oh, stupid shit like that. You know what I mean? Probably. Oh. The closest we probably have is him writing the comic now, but that's a totally different storyline, totally different characters. This is the worst timeline. The worst timeline. I'm going to unhook myself from your chair.

Starting point is 00:03:00 There's the head banging. Spider-Man, freshman year comes out. I hope it's good because that was excellent. This was so wonderful. What a show. The penultimate episodes of my top three. That last episode was amazing.

Starting point is 00:03:12 But like, what a bevy of goodness. Moulton Man into the Shakespeare, into the goblin twists. Like those three, less connected than some of our other ones, but the escalation of stakes into the finale. Any one of those, like, I mean, the show is always up against sticks, but either of the last two episodes could have been in the finale, just with, like, how poetic it was, how much it tied characters together,

Starting point is 00:03:34 how much it balanced Peter Parker's life than Spider-Man's. Yeah. I really loved the twist with Black Cat's Dad. That works for me way better than Craven being a cat. That's maybe the only thing. Yeah. The Craven Cat is the entirety of the show. Maybe the only thing that I can think of that, I mean, you know,

Starting point is 00:03:51 I don't have as much experience to be like, But even then, knowing what I know about Craven, I wasn't as jazzed on it. And it's probably the one thing, yeah, I think we could agreeably say could have been better. And everything else was, like, pretty top-frikin notch. And the one of the fans saying it reminded them of Puma, that did help me because that is a character. Like, that, that does kind of help. And that does tie into this era of Spider-Man villains. But overall, like, near-perfect.

Starting point is 00:04:15 Like, that is my one only major qualm. I honestly would say this is up there with Batman, the animated series, X-Men, 97. but Nextman 92, obviously, that being one thing. And Spider-Man The 90s show. Like, this was that good. Like, this is a formative take on Spider-Man. This is, um, I'm glad I hadn't seen it because it gave me a new bit of lore. Like, I didn't have an idea who was going to be what.

Starting point is 00:04:40 Um, I liked that I was so well-versed in Spider-Man that the twists were twists on my expectations. Uh, like, I really thought he was a clone for a second. Like, that was a really fun twist to make a chameleon. Oh, my God. Um, I also like, I, I, I, so I own this on DVD. Um, my. My mom got this for me for Christmas, like, three or four Christmases ago, and I just hadn't had time to watch it. And I was like, I'm going to react to this.

Starting point is 00:05:02 I was very appreciative. But I would just have time, and I knew I'd want to watch it, like, and actually watch it, not have it on the background. So this was the first opportunity to do that, but I'm so glad I own this. Thanks for sharing it with me. This was fucking dope. This was, oh, my God. Well, and this was the most gratifying version. Like, I love the opportunity.

Starting point is 00:05:23 here on the channel when we have like someone who's a noob and someone who's a bit of an expert together I really like dig that because I got to be like but also I got to be like because there were times where

Starting point is 00:05:35 I wasn't sure they were going away that I would assume I was right but then there were also times where I was like I know for sure and like the seeds they planted and stuff were so great to watch you experience and they pulled directly

Starting point is 00:05:47 from a lot of comics like they really did a great job making this for die hard and fans of the kids character at different levels and and this is a great mythology to show new fans like a lot of people don't love reading and they just want to have like spider man this is a great way to show folks some of the classic spider tales we've never seen adapted i've never seen liz get me love never seen mark ellen like i never thought i'd see molten man be important to be honest um and there's so many

Starting point is 00:06:12 characters that you know will never necessarily make it to screen or won't be as authentic as some of this um i i really like uh am excited to you know have this and and share with my kids whenever I have them. Like, this is a really cool way all ages to, you know, talk about stuff that happens in school, stuff that, the importance of certain things, morals, and all that.

Starting point is 00:06:33 Like, this show handles all the Spider-Man of it all so well. Yeah. Yeah. And all the while, as we've said oftentimes, you know, making you care just as much about the life stuff, the coming of age stuff, the stuff at home. I mean, we don't spend in season two as much time with Aunt May, but the Aunt May bits that we got

Starting point is 00:06:51 were always like heartwarming and or, you know, carrying some type of, you know, sage wisdom for Peter to soak up. Liz Allen is a character I wasn't really aware of much at all until watching this, and she became one of my favorite characters. Like, I felt for her so much, and I feel so terrible for just, like, you know. And I love the layers. It's like watching especially, it's like such a great set. up of him testing out this security system at the prison but then yeah having the entire time just

Starting point is 00:07:29 that ticking clock running of like the more he does this and the more complicated this gets though we feel that he's going to be here and the more likely it is he's not going to see any of this play and again with the wraparounds and and not making episodes feel like they're too crammed or anything like that like yeah they smartly established and then brought back the play You got little beats like Flash looking into Shasha's face as they deliver the lines, but he's like really feeling like the heart swell for her. And lines of dialogue that are from Shakespeare that translated the episode. So many animals in that play, and I never would have.

Starting point is 00:08:05 And like the goblin being Puck, but also her in the Spider-Man S costume, but also that to me, I know a lot of people, Hobie Brown is Spider-Pung. And I respect that. He's a great character. But to me, Hobie Brown is Prouler. And so it was so cool to see him in Green, and purple that mirrored both

Starting point is 00:08:23 the goblin versus Spider-Man, but also Prowler's Green and Purple, and like, it was so cool to see Hobie that way. Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, this, these three episodes, and we've talked about how, like, watching them, the way we do has worked out in fun ways for, you know, comparison and contrast.

Starting point is 00:08:39 Like, I really liked these three flavors because in the first episode we watched, which, like, flew by. Yeah. Like, the whole... I think the time was so clever to make it even faster. Like, again, and not maybe knowing they were late in the series, but for us late in the series to come into an episode that, yeah,

Starting point is 00:08:57 has, without even dangling in front of you or patting itself too heavily on the back for it, comes up with an interesting way to, yeah, portray the events, do a little bit of Roshamaning or just, like, perspective shifting and looking at different moments in time. And, like, that episode flew in the best of way. Like, the second the credits popped up, I was like, oh, damn, it's been 20 minutes already.

Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, that one felt like 10 minutes. Yeah. really did a good job making and the moment they chose to have them all meet up and the the plausible deniability of him not seeing the girls work because of the rush mining and also it made it feel more exciting because like the the climax was like when it was it was just it was so clever that was that technique in filmmaking is usually used poorly yeah i often see that i'm like yeah but that was great yeah well yeah because because in a lot of it's it's such a thing and it's like a cool thing Sometimes it's edgy, not good.

Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, it's like, you know, people want to be able to pull that off, but is there a purpose in doing so? And I thought that episode really sang because, A, you get a molten man, you know, you get a different, you know, kind of villain, you get all these fire scenarios and stuff like that. And a bunch of mysteries that genuinely felt like, how did this happen? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the thing is, like, you had Mark,

Starting point is 00:10:11 who I appreciated, at least in this portrayal as a character who, like, yeah, is, like, teetering on the line. he's obviously got some issues obviously gambling and he's you know falling into a life of crime or crime adjacent and how easy it is they made it very clear how it's slippery slope i love that because you got the actual henchman time exactly and he's also being taken advantage of and lied to and and you know strong armed you know with this power that he ultimately cannot control and you feel bad for him he's in a bad position and like that is something where it's like we've had so many different kinds of things we've had like big

Starting point is 00:10:47 more scaled, you know, super villain type crime. And then we've had, you know, like the gang war, you know, street level type crime. And then you've got stuff like this, which fits more into that gang gang level territory, but is yeah, just like a more personal,

Starting point is 00:11:03 more sort of tragic. Just like, oh man, this guy, if he could just get some things in order, he wouldn't have to be in a position like this. Poor Liz. You know, having to discover that this is what's become of her brother. Yeah, and it's like you get all the fighting in the destruction and stuff like that without him having to be like a full on villain like he's

Starting point is 00:11:21 partly there because of the motivation for doing this in the first place but at the same time it is just sort of like a tragic Frankenstein situation almost yeah um and then you go from that into this nifty you know device of yeah like how fun and whimsical spider man is literally being brought in by you know the the heads of this massive you know what's the the prison called oh the vault the vault yeah he's coming to the test the vault which is a great opportunity to get sort of like all of the rogues we've established up till now. I thought that was going to be what it was. I thought it was

Starting point is 00:11:53 just going to be like, oh, fun cameos. And then it was like the narrative was around it and the cold open making it like, how is Spider-Man in prison joke laughing? That was so fun. Such a great switcheroo. And then yeah, it's a great opportunity to have like one more sinister six or not that everyone's there, but you know, because

Starting point is 00:12:09 we had like Doc Ock in the last episode and Silverman. You know, we got a few more people back to sort of have a last hurrah with like the twist. The gallery. And Then, on top of that, the twist, and I love the way they played that, too, because they left Black Cat's dad in shadow for so long in that situation. And then the face reveal. And now, yeah, fully. Fully, season three.

Starting point is 00:12:32 Like, oh. And that was such a great thing, too, because you root for, like, it's another character where you're like, oh, man, I can see their chemistry. And if only if it worked for a couple of things, they could be great for each other. And how wonderful she is, you want that? Yeah. And then him choosing, like, no, I need to be in here. And, like, I do have questions about, like, it seems like you could easily as Spider-Man pass it off. It's just like, I care about any indiscent civilian who was murdered.

Starting point is 00:12:59 And my photographer's uncle died. Oh, there you go. That's how I rationalize it. Because clearly they know each other. You murdered my friend's uncle. That's what I would do. That's a, there you go, Spider-Man. There's your writer.

Starting point is 00:13:10 But, yeah, having that resolve with him ultimately choosing. And the Shakespeare in there was so. I can't get over how well. that fit and I love that it's been building to that and like I love when there's a payoff that like it's not just flash and her it's not just like an opportunity to show high school drama it literally tied into the episode that was the penultimate and then I wore this shirt today because I thought the finale was going to be venom venom yeah I love that it was a green goblin finale because I've always loved gobbie and I didn't see that coming I like that even at the end the whole season

Starting point is 00:13:38 planted seeds for goblin and I still didn't know if the last three episodes to be goblin or venom because they also planted venom seeds so I really like that the show is like all these major villains that you don't know which way it's going to go and all of them feel justified. And they, I mean, they planted a seed for carnage. We never got paid off. Oh, that's right. God damn it. There are so many things that, like, they planted.

Starting point is 00:13:57 So I was like, is that going to be the end? Are we going to get like a finale with Venom carnage? Hey, we can do all that in one episode. I thought they might have Venom get arrested and then, like, they would be teasing, like, him sit down next to Cletus. That's what I thought it might be. Like, because we've met Cletus and I thought we'd get more ready. but like it really did a great job

Starting point is 00:14:16 I could see where this was gonna be five seasons like this was such they did so many moments like the Roman moment at the end they did such a good job I mean lizard clearly you know evolving this was such a good show oh my god that that that sting at the end oh him and the blonde

Starting point is 00:14:33 so so slimy so diabolic and then yeah to go cloning to go from this like personal interesting twist of an episode in super immediate time to then, yeah, you're like, all the rogues are back together in some kind of high concept scenario episode to then

Starting point is 00:14:49 cap it all off on iconic Spider-Man villain, big mystery reveal. Huge. You know, the certain personal stakes, the relationships with Gwen and Peter and Harry all coming to a head. It was a two-year mystery payoff. Like, they really made us feel like we'd solved it. And then they made us guess everything.

Starting point is 00:15:06 And I'm sure the receipts, I mean, like, reveals planted where if you go back and watch, they'll be like, aha, it's Norman. And the chameleon thing was so genius. And now that, Peter's not with Gwen or Liz or Mary Jane and like all of the women in his life are so cool and different and

Starting point is 00:15:22 good for him in different ways but Liz was the best possible girlfriend for Spider-Man to this point and she didn't deserve any of that and then she got hurt and then she saved face. Also he broke up with her the weaker like brother went to prison. It's rare it's rare that things push me to this place

Starting point is 00:15:38 where I'm sitting here and I like I hate it in the best way I love so mad I love how much I hate this because like, oh, it hurts. I know I'm going to spend a lot of time learning what it was going to be. Sure. No, same. Like, because the like, oh, like this, the sensibility is, is really quite remarkable.

Starting point is 00:15:56 Like, they've managed to take so much of the lore. And like you've said, do certain of it really faithfully and really beautifully, do certain of it with really interesting twists and updates and fresh takes and managing to imbue this whole thing with the Parker luck. And a real care for, again, like, I'm mystified by the way that they're able to make the comic book action and high concept stuff just as gripping and compelling as the human stuff. Isn't the reason we're here and it's not the lion's share of what we're actually focusing on. But like those two things together, I feel like just create the stakes, the tragedy, the triumph, all that stuff, you know. It's also super approachable.

Starting point is 00:16:38 It's doing all that while being a great gateway into Spider-Man. like this would be such a good show to watch I mean our age but like even if you're like from 5 to 95 like there's just such an approachability to these myths to these stories to these morals it's so good like Flash's arc is still going to the

Starting point is 00:16:54 like Flash's arc is still going yeah everyone's the problem like that's everything is still growing and yeah you're like God the clones that we could have seen Warren's got the like the whole lab now like oh and and and too the way that they

Starting point is 00:17:10 because, you know, coming off the Andrew Garfield movies and stuff like that and having the whole like, oh, like, Oz Corp, Sinister 6th. I think Gwen would have been next season and die. And then Mary Jane, like, there's so much. Man, I love these characters. They did such a good job. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:26 And having like a thriving universe where everything feels kind of like things are kind of allegiances and crimes are overlapping each other and it's not just like it's all coming from one place or another, like everything just feels a lot. And the arcs feel real. I now have a mission to get successful enough to work at Marvel

Starting point is 00:17:47 and then grow in Marvel reputation to get this adapted into a comic. Because I don't think it'll ever get adapted into a movie. But I do think legal mumbo-jumbo between Sony and Marvel is going to keep it from being a comic unless I step forward. Yes. You are the one. I have to. You all the goodwill.

Starting point is 00:18:04 No one else has ever seen this show. You have built with the Sony Pictures universe of Marvel characters or whatever. Kevin, the spum. It's time. It's deep. Everyone at Sony. It's time. Kevin.

Starting point is 00:18:15 Everyone. Everyone. It's time. Listen, give the people what they need. Spectacular Spider-Man season three through five in a movie comics. Yes. I'll be that guy on Wall Street with two phones and I'll be like. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:28 Kevin, Chris and Phil and Phil and talk to me. This show is exceptional. You guys were absolutely right. Let us know. I would say penultimate episode, that Venom episode, I freaked out. about and then Sandman. I think John and I are on the same page. But I don't think there was a bad episode.

Starting point is 00:18:46 Not at all. The rhymes, the screams. Let us know in the comments. What your favorite medley of episodes were? Let's have a chat about it. Also, if you have any links to like interviews or moments that reveal where the show was going to go, I know a lot of you were heavily into the conversation. Like, this is where it was going.

Starting point is 00:19:04 I'd love to see some of that. So let's have a chat in the comments below. We need to know. We need it. Because now we are where you are. sad and spectacular Spider-Man we've caught up to 2009 or 10 or whatever it was us

Starting point is 00:19:16 and now we're with you. We're spectacular sad men we're spectacularly sad men that's us spectacularly sad men. We'll see you soon. Leave a comment and leave a little bit like if you're not subscribed to get after it. We'll see you for what's next. Let us know what you want to see. Much love. Justice for the wit.

Starting point is 00:19:40 Thank you.

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The Reel Rejects - SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN 2x11, 12, & 13 REVIEW!!

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