The Reel Rejects - SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN 2x5 & 2x6 REVIEW!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:04 And sure, my voice is peanut buttery smooth, but still, you need to see the peanut butter cups, right? No? I can really just say Reese's and you'll go get some? Okay. Rees. Rees. Rees. Really working, actually. Rees. Rees. Rees. This, I'm on to something. Rees. Rees. Rees. This week's video is sponsored by Acorns, the money app that makes it simple and cheap to make small yet significant investments. Without further ado, let's thwhip on over to episodes five and six and three, two, one. That was awesome. That was a great pair of episodes. What a pair of episodes. I do think the Sandman episode is my favorite villain use. And that's saying something because I have been commending the villains. throughout this show.

Starting point is 00:01:57 And there are so many iconic ones, but what a great episode. And then the follow-up was a great build-up. I feel like we're heading towards a giant multi-arc finale. Yeah, and this is a weird place to start, but I love the way they're gradually building so many things,

Starting point is 00:02:13 including I feel like this clinching Jonah's hatred of Spirremen. Because up until now, you know, it's sort of been like, I just give me pictures, you know, like I'm kind of opposed to mass heroes because I don't trust them,

Starting point is 00:02:24 but like... It's not been full... Vendetta, I feel like, has just now been born. And he almost turned his kid into a spider slayer, because he's the one that makes the spider slayers, and he's also the reason Scorpion exists. Okay. So, like, I like that there was a little nod to that element to Jonah.

Starting point is 00:02:40 Like, he might still, like, there might be... In season three, of course. But he got in season three, they had a five-year plan. Oh, I'm so upset about that. But I'm really curious. The further we get the more angry idea. And that's what I knew would happen, and that's part of why I didn't watch the show.

Starting point is 00:02:52 Like, for years, I heard this was incredible. One, I didn't have time when it aired, but two, I heard it was so good that I'd be mad. They were right. That said, I have genuinely no idea, and I love this. I have genuinely no idea how they put the genie back in the bottle with Peter Parker. Or if he has someone play Spider-Man, so there's two of them, or if they just have like, that guy's crazy?

Starting point is 00:03:11 Like, how do you get that plausible deniability back? Well, that, unless it's something where everyone's like, what, Peter, it can't be Peter. It's no way. Like, my question, yeah, is how do we get out of this situation without? without him having to deal with it, Spider-Man style in front of everybody. Yeah. Without a quick change.

Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah. So, like, the Jeopardy. What a good show. Yeah, I love, I mean, obviously, I will oft be sitting here going like, I don't know what it's going like, I don't know what's going to know. But, like, to know that we're in that shared position. I mean, like, don't get me wrong. I adore those moments when you're able to look over and be like, you don't even know. You don't know what's going.

Starting point is 00:03:52 But this time, and I think that's really smart for people that are like me. that knows Spider-Man lore so well to have something in the show that feels really unique. They did that Puma-Craven thing which I didn't love this. I do love because obviously

Starting point is 00:04:04 Venom knows who Spider-Man is and he teases it out and he does manipulate the people around them but I didn't expect that with everyone in the bugle. That was fantastic. Yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:04:14 This was like I love when like you said they've had so many iconic villains already brought into the show and they've done a lot of really clever and creative things with how they've portrayed them how they've, like, come together and broken apart as, like, sinister six from time to time.

Starting point is 00:04:30 And, uh, and I do love when, like, I've got appreciation for Sam, man, but I don't know if I would ever be like, oh, Sam Man's like a favorite character. Like, watching something like this, like, I love when a character like that, you know, can kind of rise and be like, you know, part of, you know, a, uh, uh, what am I trying to say, you know, like one of those, like, little shiny diamonds on the gauntlet of spectacular Spider-Man, like, that episode in containment, because, like, so many of these- You can watch just that episode and be like wow the show yeah and i think that's beautiful because they've been really good at doing multiple episode arcs and doing things we're like yeah they work as a single episode but clearly like

Starting point is 00:05:06 you've got to keep going you want to expand it and and and that was a great example of something that yeah like does feel like its own little centerpiece and it is you know not distracting that it is you know and it's befitting of the show but yeah like to have i'm very curious about this uh the the sandman beach comic you're talking about. So there were a couple times that he has used the beach to like power himself up and there's a couple times where he's become like this giant hulking thing. But the issues I was

Starting point is 00:05:34 talking about that I really loved was it was like a really playful couple issues that were spring break themed. It was very much in the MTV era and they had like an MTV like spring break episode issue where Sandman was the big bad and he like took over the beach and they did all that stuff

Starting point is 00:05:50 but there's also if I remember correctly his daughter was the little girl in the comics and, like, him playing with his daughter on the beach and making sand castles and all that stuff. And, like, they did some, like, elements of it. So that was, like, kind of, like, four different storylines they'd just pick and chose parts of.

Starting point is 00:06:06 But I would highly recommend, I want to say, it's Peter Parker Spider-Man in, like, the 40s. Like, the 40 issues somewhere in there. Like, and it was in the early 2000s, and I love those issues. And they're very MTV Spring Break, very fun. But I recently just got these. second appearance, and I said it briefly, but

Starting point is 00:06:25 Sandman's one of my favorites. Sam Ramey wanted to make Sandman the villain of Spider-Man 3. The studio forced him to have the Venom element. He's always loved how he's kind of the, you know, reluctant villain and how he doesn't want to be in this position and all those things. And I really think the story

Starting point is 00:06:41 we could have gotten as just a Sandman third movie would have been special, because I think he sees this. Like, that's such an interesting character, and I love the way they use. It was so cinematic. The forced perspective, the scope the feeling and that's in animation like what they could do with someone like Sam Raney

Starting point is 00:06:57 that would have been so special. Yeah I was Hubb was new goblin Harry Osborne. Always intended to be... I feel like that's a trilogy kind of thing where you... But it would have been cool if they teamed up to fight Sandman yeah absolutely. Especially that Sandman and I was going to say like I feel like

Starting point is 00:07:13 I've again like the Sandman stuff is probably my favorite part of Spider-Man three across the board but I feel like just any any of the few live action things we've had with Sandman have been you know there's definitely stuff to appreciate but they also

Starting point is 00:07:29 I feel like like the show here did a better job of aside from the questions I keep asking about like how does he interact with water aside from that I feel like the show has done a really good job of acknowledging the breadth and I don't know I guess parameters of his power

Starting point is 00:07:47 because I get the sense in the live action movies he can just kind of like expand and contract and become huge kind of whatever whenever and he doesn't need to charge up with extra silicates and stuff like that whereas here I was like oh no wonder he can get huge he's at the beach and we've seen him really big in the show

Starting point is 00:08:03 but I feel like this was on another level and it felt very well motivated whereas in the live action movie it's like he's getting skyscraper size at times when you know maybe I don't know it's like a little nitpick thing they do it decently often where he's at the beach but this was well explained and I

Starting point is 00:08:19 really like that they did it in a way that felt like it served narratives but also like the visuals that came out of it and all those things were so freaking red. Yeah, it's like I like the Ramey movie version where it's like, yeah, you see him as this guy who's just trying to help out his sick daughter who just wants to have a life with her.

Starting point is 00:08:35 He's fallen into crime because that's just what life, you know, his lot in life has opened, you know, his realm of possibility up to, you know, and yeah, there's that reluctant villain quality whereas here I do like the debate of like, yeah, I mean, at least up till now, like he takes a certain amount of, you know, enjoyment out of, you know, being a low-level criminal of sorts

Starting point is 00:08:59 and trying to make these scores. But the introduction of the idea of, like, you could help people. This is an amazing power. And the way Peter... And they're disappearing at the end, like the drift off was so beautiful. Yeah. So you know that's what he wanted to do. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:10 And Peter, throughout these... I think there were multiple moments in these two episodes where Peter kept trying to be like, you know, great power and responsibility of the power. And, like, you know, obviously it's fun because, you know, he keeps getting cut off or... I cannot believe I remember. the numbers Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man

Starting point is 00:09:27 43 that is a deep memory in my noggin that is from 2002 I just remembered something from 22 years ago down to the issue checking cover price tonight

Starting point is 00:09:42 I'm so I'm so proud of that that is a that is a memory that is crazy look at that and then more recently he did it in a Chip Sedarski issue where he found out he was immortal and accidentally like he doesn't want to outlive the entire planet.

Starting point is 00:09:57 I think it's like spectacular Spider-Man 307-307-309. It's somewhere in that run because it's that last. Oh, boy. Spider-Man 3-0. A moment of truth, boy. You got your numbers. 308. Hey!

Starting point is 00:10:12 I remember the run. Right in the middle. 307 to 309. Wow, that is gorgeous. Oh, my God. That's cool. So it's a cool Sandman trope. Sorry to be on my phone during this, but I had to get those issues.

Starting point is 00:10:22 It was for the people. It was for the people. Now we can throw up a graphic. Information. Yeah. Yeah, man, I'm so proud of that. That's pretty great. That was great.

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Starting point is 00:11:56 slash rejects. All that being said, I do vouch for them. And so does Dwayne the Rock Johnson. So I do like that they play with the morality of it and like he's so reluctant and like what he wants to be. There's also that like monster element. Like he feels like a monster because he's like the whole beach. So I think they did a really good job playing with that here.

Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, well, and him like absorbing all the diamonds and watches and stuff like that. And two, it's there's kind of like even though obviously we understand his power. Like there's just still something disconcerting about. seeing just like half a watch sticking out of his arms. Yeah, they do a good job at that. Like, yeah, there's like little body horror-ish elements. And two, like the creativity of like when he splits his head open or, you know, to crush Peter. Or when like, the guillotine or when he, the guillotine or when Peter, like, punches his mouth off.

Starting point is 00:12:37 Or when there's that moment where like half his head is blown out and then he's fixing it and it's like enclosing in on the Peter through the parallax. Like, yeah, there's so much great visual with him, but also so much great character stuff. And that was like a great example of, yeah, truly gripping, spectrum. episode and then to go into the next one. Just such good storytelling. I really like that you get a Jameson fleshing out and an origin for his full hatred. You get Peter in the dating world. You get all the Parker drama.

Starting point is 00:13:05 You get Venom fully coming back and like portraying the trust that Spider-Man's kind of earned. There's so much that's like building out. That's why I feel like, you know, we're at episode six. We've got a whole second half arc that could be started here. Yeah. Yeah. Is Captain Jupiter a comics thing? Yeah, but I think of him more.

Starting point is 00:13:22 as Man Wolf. That's the direction I thought they were going, but I do know they've put him in like, you know, that suit is from the comic and things, but I honestly don't remember Colonel Jupiter. I don't, like, I'm sure there was like an issue of two

Starting point is 00:13:37 of Jameson. Like, I can picture the suit and I can remember elements, but I don't remember the character, so I can't speak to that. But the Man Wolf stuff, I loved. And I think they did a really cool job, like making us think that's where they're going to go. And I love that they made the spores tied to venom. Him growing and ripping out of the clothes

Starting point is 00:13:53 is a werewolf trope if ever there was. And then the spores being like Venom didn't cause it. They didn't change the venom origin but they tied it all together in a really cool way. Because in the animated series

Starting point is 00:14:03 in the 90s, the symbiate came from that trip and here they played around with that a little bit because in the comics it's from Secret Orders it's a whole other thing. But they did a really cool job

Starting point is 00:14:13 blending mythology here really well. Yeah and two like outside of the lore and stuff like that, I thought these two episodes had a really cool use of wrap-around motif. because you had the mom's birthday video for Flash in the first episode.

Starting point is 00:14:26 And then the Shakespeare, yeah, good point. Which is, we watched Twilight recently, and they were doing that throughout the twilights, like pulling thematic, some of it was Shakespeare, some of it was other poetry, and like applying it episodically to the themes of the story. But this was so great because, yeah, like there's so much in each of the chosen little stanzas that reflects on the themes of the episode, the characters that are speaking them, other characters that are involved. And again, like, the intermingling of those things and just the school stuff and the

Starting point is 00:15:00 interpersonal stuff, like, even if it's not always the focus, even if there's much bigger fish to fry, like, it's always, it's always a welcome part of the episode. And, like, even Flash, just trying to join trauma and trying to, he just can't get this Shasha girl to, like, turn an eye toward him in any. And then makes him want more because he has had everything he's wanted. Yeah, and like seeing him at home with his mom and the, other episode and like a little like picture with his jeans off and stuff like the vignettes was such a good point like i really think that shaped these two episodes i've said it before this is the most

Starting point is 00:15:31 i have felt how genuinely bummed i am the show is only two as of these two episodes it's the strongest because these were yeah these were two i thought these were two great ones especially to watch back to back obviously because the second one i mean it's it's cool to see the whole you know exchange with john jameson and the potential of like oh man we could be good allies and maybe he sees the truth and then you know the truth at least right now is kind of entombed in his sanity yeah you know and it's like a clear transition of like in that critical kind of flashpoint between like well i know what the truth is and we're going to talk to the police you know and spider man you know jets off it's like right in that critical little moment

Starting point is 00:16:13 where like it seems like the the sporks take over and you know yeah we're at least set back again from potential salvation. And I like that the ramifications. I like that, you know, he came back and he was not all well and that now Jonah has something to blame Spider-Man for. I think this was really good TV,

Starting point is 00:16:31 both these episodes. I am bummed that we don't get more after this because this is setting up such long-game stuff. The writing is so tight. I really love the use of commercial breaks, the actual style choices we were just talking about. But it's also remixing Spider-Man stuff

Starting point is 00:16:47 in a really special way. I'm wondering, and this is, Obviously, you know, we won't know for another year, but we are getting a new Spider-Man animated show. And I really hope it does, I don't know if we can, but I hope it does as good a job remixing and really establishing a new world of Spidey because this feels so special and so its own thing.

Starting point is 00:17:05 But it also feels like the 60s comics. It also feels like the 2000s ultimate comics. It really is, it's perfect. It feels alive. It feels like a nexus point between, yeah, like, and my frame of knowledge is more limited, but it does feel like it's kind of encompassing so much of all the different iterations

Starting point is 00:17:21 of what has made Spider-Man Spider-Man over so much time. And I love that the especially through the villains because I feel like in the movies I often get the sense, even though it is such a shared world. Like villains feel kind of isolated, whereas especially across this whole thing, it's like

Starting point is 00:17:37 some villains beget other like, John Jameson's like almost a hero, but then in tussling with venom, he's like thrown into what I can only imagine if he comes back again will be something more villainous or, you know, it's like hammerhead and sand, like, there are so many, like, entanglements and, like, it feels like an actual world and community.

Starting point is 00:17:57 And it doesn't feel bloated because it feels like a tapestry. Yeah, it feels alive, and they're good at not wasting too much time or wheel spinning too much, and they're good at taking, like, what you would think would be the obvious choice to perpetuate whatever action and going with something more interesting and more tragic as a result. Also, all with great visuals. Yeah, absolutely. Like, they've really been stepping up in terms of.

Starting point is 00:18:19 uh yeah just like all the camera choices yeah the camera choices the perspective choices and that stuff's not easy to animate especially too when you have like a character like sandman who has like this extra layer of like granular fuzz that they that grain how much spidey moves like there's so much challenge yeah and and i guess this is just a straggler thought here at the end but i i wonder what if there will be any more or if there was planned obviously you know assuming time restraints of the rest of the rest of the rest of the show show aside, is Harry going to fall back into any villainy? You know, it's like he clearly is, they're emphasizing at least yeah, this current walk of his journey, you know, with

Starting point is 00:19:03 Gwen as object to please my dad, essentially, you know, as a status symbol. And now I'm the lead in the play. Again, status symbol. And after going away and being rehabbed and going through all the stuff he did as Goblin and having that one little portentious moment from

Starting point is 00:19:19 Peter seeing him as Goblin before he goes back in, you know, it makes me wonder if that's just going to be a tease and it doesn't? That we would have been paid off in season three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that going to be a tease to something that might have paid off in season three? Will we get a little bit more Goblin moving forward? Or is it one of those things where it's mostly about Peter needing to see the growth in Harry? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:41 Maybe Harry will just have more petty human issues. But it's interesting that we were like so sympathetic for because of Gwen and now we're Whoa, whoa, whoa, danger, more sympathy for Gwen and now scared of him. I feel so bad for Gwen's gone through it, man. And I love Peter and Liz, which hurts my soul. And I love, like, because you can tell Peter's conflicted. Oh, yeah. His heart is really with Gwen.

Starting point is 00:20:02 But every time he says, every time Gwen says, yes, it's because she sees Peter and I was like, oh, this is bad for everyone. This is so toxic all around. And I, and I feel bad for Liz, too, because I'm like, I love you. Yeah, and that's going to break her heart. Yeah. Good television, spectacular Spider-Man, living up to the hype. These were episodes five and six.

Starting point is 00:20:20 Check out Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man Issues 42 and 43 from 2002. I remember I was hunting down one of the two back in 2002. I had gotten one, and I had to go to three comic shops to get the next one. I think it was the first one I missed. Got the second one. Love the two-part story. It's only two parts. All you got to read.

Starting point is 00:20:36 I got one last thing to say. Okay, what do you got? I really like the way they choose settings for fights across the show. I mean, you know, like it's a bit of a funny, like, ah-ha, ha, like they're fighting in a Planetarium, Captain Jupiter. But, like, I love that. It's cheeky. Having him with Sandman in that, like, the museum where it's like ancient Greece, ancient

Starting point is 00:20:55 Rome, ancient Egypt, all places where, like, the walls and, like, statue and stuff. Yeah, it's visually so stunning. Yeah. But, yeah, check out, check out some comics. Also, Chip Siddarski and Chris Pichello's number 307, much more recently, like eight years ago, if memory serves, that is your homework, good citizens of the reject nation. Best homework there is. I mean, read some comics.

Starting point is 00:21:15 Have some fun. Leave a comment below. let me know what your favorite appearance of Sandman is, your favorite appearance of Venom is. Let us know what we might get up to after this journey of spectacular Spider-Man since it does nearing the end. It does hurt as it nears the end.

Starting point is 00:21:29 What are you talking about, Koi? No, we have it forever, five years in a movie. They're still making them now. There's not a freshman year show coming on Disney Plus, not at all. Season 28 is about to come out. Everything's good. All right, that's going to do it.

Starting point is 00:21:41 We'll see you soon. Much love, rejection. Lex. Lex means royalty. Does it? King or queen? Yeah. Does it really? Yes, Lex.

Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah, king, I believe. Lex, similar to Rex, also, like a king denoter. What is it? It's like Armenian or something like that. I didn't know it. It's Armenian Latin. It's the collaborative language that they created that only Lex knows how to speak. I assume you spoke Armenian.

Starting point is 00:22:11 I speak Armenian fluently, but I'm not going to... Look Armenian. I am Armenian. And so is Lex. And only we can speak the secret Armenian language together. That's cool. Yeah. Where are we going with this?

Starting point is 00:22:23 I, very back at the start, I was going to try and figure out what Lex could be the ruler of, you know? Because there's so many places on earth that need guidance, that need some kind of support that need... Ooh, chocolate toilets. Chocolate toilets. That way you can use the toilet and eat it after. It would be the queen of chocolate toilets. between a chocolate toilet yeah yeah absolutely what would that be i mean sometimes it might forget to flush and you're like oh that wasn't chocolate oh was that a truffle it was not and then likes

Starting point is 00:22:56 get sued and then well yeah if anybody else that's why yeah you should always test whatever people are going to eat out of your chocolate toilet constantly have the AC on because it'll melt yeah yeah well yeah you don't want to sit on it for too long because yeah it'll either melt under the warmth of your cheeks or it'll just crumble yeah under the weight Unless it's a solid chocolate bowl. Like, I don't know what you did there. I don't know if it's like a hollow chocolate with a filling inside. Or if it's like, you know, a full-on slab.

Starting point is 00:23:23 Ooh, you should fill it with brownies. You should fill it with fudge and chocolate syrup and chocolate sprinkles. Amen. Yeah. Just all the brown foods, you know, just pour some root beer in there just to get it kind of like froth and, you know, get it to be kind of like a float, if you will. And you will. I've seen it.

Starting point is 00:23:42 I've looked into your future. I've divined. Beyond the rim, beyond the tank, beyond the U-Bend, all the different parts of toilets that I know. I think this one really well. This is the best one yet of July. This is good. This is a great shout out. I'm impressed with this.

Starting point is 00:23:59 I am impressed mostly with you, and I feel like I could be doing better for Lex's kingdom here. I really found a way to Lex's heart. You did. I'm all about connecting. You did. I mean, food, you know, chocolate. Those are the two most romantic things. possible to unfurl someone's inner loving.

Starting point is 00:24:18 Some people like to gatekeep their ideas. I like to pass it along. I like to force my ideas on anyone who will listen to them. Lex, I just kind of gave you a really good business opportunity. Chocolate toilet. I guarantee the bank will loan you money. I bet they will want to be the first to try it.

Starting point is 00:24:32 Maybe they'll install them all throughout the bank. And then you're an entrepreneur. Wells Fargo chocolate toilets. I have more people to sign up. Well's Chaco. So once that's taken care of, just, you know, remember who gave you the idea and maybe send us a little bit of patent money you know what i mean you know what i mean but we love you thanks for being here for persisting through all of these

Starting point is 00:24:55 magnanimous shoutouts we appreciate you and we love you stay pledged and uh flush once in a while be safe Thank you.

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