The Reel Rejects - Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse SPOILER TALK!! Easter Eggs, Cameos, Ending, & Theories!

Episode Date: June 4, 2023

Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse Spoiler Review, Breakdown, Ending Explained, and Theories for Beyond The Spider-verse! Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse continues the story of Miles Morales (Shameik Moore), featuring Gwen Stacy / Spider-Gwen (Hailee Steinfeld), Miguel O'Hara / Spider-Man 2099 (Oscar Isaac), The Spot (Jason Schwartzman), Spider-Punk (Daniel Kaluuya), Jessica Drew (Issa Rae), Spider-Man India (Karan Soni from Deadpool), Ben Reilly / Scarlet Spider (Andy Samberg), Peter B. Parker (Jake Johnson) along with special cameos from Donald Glover, Andrew Garfield, Tobey Maguire, Insomniac Spider-Man, and TONS MORE!! Join us as we dive into the most memorable scenes & moments from the sequel to Into the Spider-Verse & speculate on what Beyond the Spider-Verse may hold!! #SpiderMan #AcrossTheSpiderVerse #SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse #IntoTheSpiderVerse #Marvel #Sony #SonyAnimation #MCU #MarvelStudios #MilesMorales #PeterParker #SpiderMan2099 #SpiderGwen #GwenStacy #SpiderPunk - Follow Coy Jandreau On Social Media: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CoyJandreau TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?lang=en Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau - Become A Super Sexy Reject For Full-Length T.V. & Movie Reactions! https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects - Support The Channel By Checking Out Our Bomb A** Merch: http://shopzeroedition.com/collections/reel-rejects-merch - POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It doesn't matter. John are I going to solve that box. We're going to hash this house. We just talk quietly over there, and I'll just wave. No. I'm not going to have a fight. Okay. I don't care if we're alive right now.

We're going to fight. We're live? I don't care if we're live. People need to know. We've ever been alive. People need to know. All of this is reversed. I don't need to know what John does.

What is that, what is the noise going off in your phone? Coy, I swear to God. If we go live and you're making noise, you're lucky I haven't hit the go. You're lucky I haven't hit the go live button yet. You hear your phone? Oh, it's my phone. Yeah, yeah.

Thank God we weren't live because I don't like to embarrass myself in my life. Otherwise. Never, you've never been embarrassed in your life. Yeah. We always aspire to that. All right. How long we run this joke where we pretend we're not live? until you're out of course the joke only works if we don't acknowledge that we're live what is going on there i got to hit this for our podcast okay now we are live and we are recording what is going on there citizens of the reject nation we are here to talk about spider man into the spider verse i like how across the spider verse thank you jabby went live at the same time always always copying me he knows to go live on sundays we have talked this through

True. There's a matter. If you're here from Jabby, the Sinapal's channel, you make sure to come over here and you stay here. Yeah. I love what we've set up here because it looks like Miles's chin is protruding out. He is developing some type of abnormal growth, which is this death. Which is us. He's having a Tetsuo, the Iron Man, the sort of transformation. Also, you're above your character in the thumbnail. I'm above my boys, Ben, and Miguel. And then, John's got Scarlet and I got Paveter over here. Yeah. I'm so happy. Not the worst. I'm going to make this super big for us to see. Oh, John, I get every getting at now. Thank you guys for everyone who is

super chat. Oh, my God. John. Genius, John. Genius. Look at that. It's a good thing I talk nice about you before we go live. I'm always bad. That's why I have my best energy. All right, guys. Well, let's get to it right away. Let's start to start off with this. spam in the chat right now spam in the chat right now

what your rating is out of 10 let's go through everyone real quick John what is your rating out of 10 dude like 9 and a half maybe a 10 okay that's a good rating that's a good rating Coyson 9.9 the highest score I've given in I think 20 years

fascinating what is the point one that gets in the way there's a scene and this is so so minute this is literally like I don't even like myself for it. There are two moments in the film where I found myself on the second viewing, not the first, aware that continuity was an issue with timing for convenience and it bothered me. And that's literally like the most minute.

But like there's a moment where Gwen leaves and then there's a long talk of Miguel and his mom and then he catches up to Gwen in like a minute. And I'm like, no, I don't know about that. Like they're both web swinging. And I'm like, how would you catch up? And like this is so dumb. But nothing's perfect. 9.9.

Like that is so close. nitpick really gets in the way we go it's and you know when when gwen leaves the portal stays there forever that was the other one that was the other one and the rest of the movie the portals closed quickly but that's it that's it and like it's 9.9 like that's cartoonishly high yeah we got one three out of 10 but it looks like in the chat everything is hovering between 9 to 9 out of 10 here i had to look for a problem and therefore it's the nitpicks these are the people to correct everyone else um yeah i thought this movie was probably like a 9.5 at a i mean i don't know i'm gonna fuck you guys i i've been 10 out of 10 on this one no no good that's amazing because well the one the one thing i i how many times have you seen it john

twice okay john has more time than twice i have not seen it twice okay i've only seen it one time last week so i'm really gonna dig deep into my memory as we talk about this because i've seen a lot of things since they're all in the spider verse though however uh the only thing that really seemed a little off to me was in the first like half hour or 40 minutes maybe where sometimes it seemed like the pacing was a tad off where it would be like really kinetic and then it would slow down for these really great dramatic scenes and sometimes i'd find myself adjusting with like oh okay i got to slow down But I don't know if that was just a first viewing experience. I know there were some people

who expressed pacing issues with this film. I actually mentioned that on my second viewing that I like the pacing better the second time because I found myself aware of how to watch the stimuli. Like there's a lot coming at you. Second time it actually went up from a 9.8 to a 9.9.9.

Like I literally was clocked. That extra point one. No, I think it's a 3rd. I watch movies weird. The fifth time, Koi watches it will be a 10.2. It's actually off the scales. No, I watch movies weird, and it's even better the second time for me.

All righty. Well, okay. Okay, I was going to say, if anyone gives a, thank you to everyone has been super chat, if anyone gives a $20 super chat, I have a thing I created. Oh, yes. Moments before. Oh, yes. So good.

Did you hear it already? I heard it quietly and I can't wait to hear it full ball. It's quietly I went. It's a little tiny thing, but I came up with it like a minute before John showed up. And I'm like, well, it's the only time it would be a pro bonoie. for a live stream. So I hope you guys like it. But, okay, let's play a little bit of catch up here.

Dimitri, go, okay, hold on a second. Oh, yes. Okay, John, I know what I'm doing, John. I know what I'm doing, John. You're so money, baby. All right. Can you read the chat? I know it's really far away.

Sure. From us. Boys. Friendly neighborhood. Spoiler man. Oh, there we go. That'll make it easier. So, yeah, why don't you guys read, I'm going to just refresh this really quick.

Do we want to do it in every usual? Coy, please. I'm trying to be calm. Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This does big John energy, Greg. Calm down. Jeez.

I am calm. I'm just trying to make everything perfect. Hold on a second. You're so much. Okay. You guys, go read what's going on in the chat here. Pecoy, that was one of my first thoughts. Acknowledged things that are going on there while I'm fixing something.

Well, Morris is broken. I think we should all start a GoFund me to get Chris Morris back on his feet. Everyone's super chat to get Chris Morris back on his right. And lots of mentions of spectacular Spider-Man showing up. Oh, Josh. Yes, that's

what I wanted to hear. Pocoy says exactly, like one of the first sentences out of my mouth was across the spider versus what we thought multiverse's madness is going to be. That's one of the first things I discussed with the group I was with. It is exactly what I thought it was going to be, but actually a little bit more because of the spoilers

stream live action stuff accomplishing something I didn't think would work. I thought multiverse was going to include animation. Remember when we did that trailer breakdown? I was like, there's these three frames of animation. They're going to go into X-Men. And then this did it, but better. So this was everything I wanted multiverse to be in more because the inclusion of the canon events actually makes our universe included in this world, which makes the Donald Glover cameo, my favorite cameo in the history of cameos, and the way they were able to utilize all of the elements of the comic books. Like when he says the Canada event, ASM-90, not only is that referencing Amazing Spider-Man 90 because that's the death of Gwen Stacy and using those comic

covers. That's actually how you log Amazing Spider-Man to order it from the original publisher. So it makes so many things canon because it's a canon event. And now every time I'm in a bad situation, be like, it's okay. It's just a canon event. So it actually, you know, affected my life in a real way. Did you guys know that Koi's plus one to the Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse premiere, his plus one. Not in reverse. This is legit. He is actual plus one. If you go to social media, was Yuri who voices and does the mocap for him, right? He does the mocap for him for the Insomniac Spider-Man, the one from the Spider-Man T.S4 game and the upcoming Spider-Man 2 game as well.

Which design? He does. What do you mean? The redesigned one or the main-designed one? Oh, no, the mocap is both. The face, however, not so the face is either way. It's him either way. But he, yeah, he, I talked to him after the screening that we saw last week, and I was like,

dude congratulations and i was like he was like oh thanks man you're the first one to confirm it like i didn't know and i was like i'll see you tuesday and he's like what and i was like uh and then i just all weekend made sure that like me and yurie could both go but uh yurie's one of my oldest friends and i and i didn't realize the impact on i know obviously i love the game but the spider culture like it was so beautiful to see so many kids and adults and and people just enthusiastically like oh my god you're my favorite spider man so i got to see yury like live the spider man life and it was so beautiful and we did every meme on the red carpet we actually did the entire red carpet at dancing, the Bully McGuire.

So there's some footage out there, me and Yuri, Bully McGuire. That's amazing. Guys, okay, look, I'm trying to balance this out today because I know sometimes we start talking about things. And you got to understand this feeling that happens because we do appreciate whenever someone does contribute to like the Super Chats

or Streamlads. Then we're met with this guilty feeling that if we've already talked about it and then it's asked in there. And we don't want to be like some other live streamers who are like, already da-da, moving on. We already asked this. We don't care what you have to say. So, but there is something that I wanted to address. It might seem a little bit off from the actual main story.

But I saw this going around on Twitter this morning, which was the first trailer for Across the Spider-Verse, where they, it looks like, what is the name, John, you would know, I mean, maybe both of you would know. What is the name of Spider-Man India's world? Oh, Mumbatton. Yes. It looked like in the first trailer, Miles Pierce is through there, and then he starts fighting with Miguel O'Hara there.

Do you guys remember that? Do you think that is footage from Beyond the Spider-Verse? Oh, that could be a good call. Because, I mean, you know, there would be cause to go back there. They're trying to fix it. There's been question called in as to whether they can fix it. And Paveter is part of the assembled team at the very end. So it could be that they need to go back there for some reason, sure.

Yeah, because it seems like they would have to do a lot of work to just animate. I mean, otherwise it was just a big mislead. I mean, we know Marvel will do that with, like, visual effects. but I don't know, something that seems more involved to do a giant animation. Yeah, it seems, well, I mean, the Hulk footage is what I always go back to of, like, how big a mislead can be. Right. But I would imagine in the third film, we're going to see, again, a lot of what we wanted on Multiverse of Madness. So I think there's going to be a big sequence of, like, tearing through universes, which I think might land in live action miles more else.

But I do think that is a sequence we're going to get. What I heard from certain screenings, and I'm so, I'm glad that they preface. us for it made me think of when they did Dune and when they made sure to put part one on there because there's a lot of people who were not aware which is shocking to me but I can't remove myself from the industry I was like I've known this for three years yeah it feels so like a fact that it's like what do you mean it's a cliffhanger well in the original trailers were saying spider were across it was called part one yeah and because of that there's there's a lot of people who are actually upset when it did end without uh without having a full resolve but that's why I love

what they do specifically with Gwen Stacy in this movie guys she gets her movie yeah like this movie starts off with they what I felt they decided to do because while Miles does have an arc in this film obviously it's his plot where the massive cliffhanger is left at right

they made sure that they told a complete story with Gwen Stacy at least though yeah and starting it off with her and then ending it off with her resolve with her dad by the end which also you know like because of the fact that her dad doesn't that doesn't decide to be captain

and showing that nothing's really going wrong in her universe that Miles is right there's a way to show there's a way to change things without it like causing it's not called an incursion right in this universe what is it? Canon event yeah but what if something goes wrong

what do they call that because of incursions when something goes wrong well incursions when the two worlds collide this isn't another world colliding it's an implosion breaking canon I think is what they called it basically okay so that's what that's how you're looking for Yeah, I'm breaking can. But yeah, I thought that that story was absolutely brilliant here.

I'm so glad that wasn't in the trailers. I was thinking the moment they said the word canon, how much I would have known about the plot. Like, even if they use that word, it's such a comic-centric word. It was a genius use of, hey, comic fans get a little extra juice out of this without it being confusing. I hope that the, well, that doesn't it end, I'm jogging my memory here, is that the ending of the film, he's tied up against the bag,

and his finger starts the spark. So I imagine that the next scene will be picking, the opening of Beyond the Spiderverse will be instantly picking up from that moment and probably getting into a fight with Miles Prouler. I could see either... That sounds like an actual name.

Miles Prouler. It's like a small town justice show. You know what? Movies usually want to build the suspense. They might show him there and then go back to Gwen with her team and then go back to him. I could see that being like a cut back and forth like crescendoing action is what I would imagine.

Well, I do think they did just as a general point like a nice job of even though it is clear. the setup to a second half. I thought this was a well-rounded movie and making it partly Gwen's story sells that very nicely. Also, Jeff in the chat entered a headcan and the Miguel O'Hara

was the bagel and I support that wholeheartedly. I love that. Yes. I love that. Someone said, wasn't it called an anomaly? The anomaly is the person, the entity that is the issue

like the act of. So Miles himself is an anomaly. But like if you save that person, they become, you know, that's an event. but the actual event that causes it, like John said, is like, breaking canon. Miles Taylor's Prowler, that's right. Yeah, that's true.

That's good point. Kill, okay. All righty. Oh, yeah, and they mentioned the Senator 6th cartel as well. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Oh, yeah, there's a lot. There's so much coming and beyond the Spider-Verus.

I hope it's three hours. And it's a movie, too, where you sit there, you watch this one, and you're like, I need the DVD because there's so many little lines of dialogue as well that will flip by you, and you're like, wait, what did they say? And then you're on the next thing. When it's on Blu-ray six-hour live stream, frame by frame, let's do it. Oh, I want you, Coy, you were telling us a fun fact about this. Was it Phil Lord or Chris Miller or both of you'll tell you about this?

Phil was telling me that the kid that animated the entire Lego sequence is not only 14, but he had to finish his homework before they did rewrites. So whenever they were trying to get any notes to this kid, they had to like talk to his parents, wait for him to finish his homework, solve all the logistical issues of being 14. And I got to meet the kid at an absolute delight. And it's insane. I also got to meet

So the Lego sequence He's from like Nigeria or something? He's from Canada He's from Canada But I think he's originally from Nigeria But he's like like the family is very Canadian But the one of the most beautiful things was Lego Spider-Man obviously a small And the voice actor for the Lego Spider-Man

Is a little person who is so full of enthusiasm and joy And so I got to meet him He's one of our best Yeah he's incredible So they cast a little person to play Lego Spider-Man And also animated by a 14-year-old who had to finish his homework for grades. Like, that whole sequence makes me so happy,

so I got to be both them at the premiere. That's amazing. Phil was describing all the logistics of having all the different pockets of people, and the way this whole team came together is literally thousands of artists all over the world, and a lot of them's first or second project. Yeah. So it's a truly one-of-one event in movie making.

Yeah, beautiful. Luke, the reaction, we got to, I know we got a good amount of super chats, which we really appreciate. We will get to all them right now. There are some things I want to talk about. I thought Miles's reaction, The reaction to Miles being in the wrong universe, that moment, I forget when it was.

I think it was when Aaron, it was right when the mom is like who's Spider-Man. Yeah. What I love about the writing of this film, I feel like not enough people talk about the actual writing of this movie. Because there are certain lines that might sound like just a fun fact or a part of the world building. Because, you know, Miguel's the one who says he's telling Miles, I believe it's on the train. you guys will really have to help me out here. Oh, yeah, we just saw N-Rose, G. That's the scene when he's telling him that it wasn't supposed to be him that was bit,

that he took someone else's spider, right? Yeah. And you're not really thinking about it. It's more like, oh, damn, for Miguel. And what the movie does such a good job at doing is in that moment when Miguel is saying that to Miles, it's, to me, at least as a viewer, I'm there going, God, that's fucking hurtful, Miguel. Right. No, they're in an emotional first.

Yeah, it's so painful. Like, you just keep telling him you're not worthy. You're not good enough. You don't belong. All you're thinking. I'm not even thinking about, like, oh, I wonder what that universe is like with, not even, like, thinking about that. But when the mom says that, I was next to Olivia, my wife.

And I was like, oh, my God, it's in the wrong universe. I'm freaking out. And that is such a great setup. Because I love that this movie, it does go, I didn't laugh as much as the first movie. I don't think anyone does with this film. I didn't laugh as much as the first movie. I love how much darker this particular one is. It progressively gets darker as it goes.

Right down to the very last moments, you know, even though it's a hopeful moment. I had two quick things that relates to that. The beautiful thing that I caught was on the first viewing, I noticed that in his universe, the sodas are named, and in the new universe, his Earth 42 that he lands in, there's a billboard that just says, soda.

It's a generic brand. And that was my first, like, inclin. And what I love is that that gives you almost in your universe, like us viewers, Spider-Sense. Because my brain went, and I noticed myself looking more detailed. And then what I knew was right before the mom even came in the room, what happens is he lands and he has to hide his suit. So he picks up clothes off the ground of that universe.

And in all of our miles, he's wearing a black, dark, dark, dark, dark green black jacket with a red hoodie. That's his imagery. In that universe, it's a purple hoodie and a green jacket. So he's got prowler colors on because he's wearing, he's literally wearing the colors of the prowler in the prowler's universe because that's what he would dress as

as. So I noticed that he put on the hoodie and that it mirrored that but also I was more attuned to it because in the comic books there is a canon where Miles becomes the prowler and that's another yet another. I'm gonna do a whole like five minute rant on Donald Glover at some point but that is yet another thing that ties into that cameo that I'll talk about later

but I think it's a really beautiful way to subtly make you the viewer have spider sense like why does this feel off? What's different? What's off in this color? And the great thing really quick about that sequence watching it the second time is they actually, in the filmmaking, like, the first time it worked so well on me, I was had that moment of, oh,

shit, no. And you watch it again and you're like, oh man, all the visual cues are here. You see the computer bring up Earth 42 before he comes back. Rio shows up and her eyes are green instead of brown. It's like there's so many little tells that are terrific. Even the design of Miles' room

is slightly different. The posters are slightly different. So, like, you can pick up. It's really fun to note those details on the second time because they they trust that you won't you know be if you get them the first time then good on you you know yeah i will say this sentiment of this is like their empire strikes back i hear that about like every god damn part every good every good part every part every part every part every part two they say that like nowadays this was that though this was the case of this is like the empire strikes back of astrology yeah and it's rare where

I truly agree with that sentiment. I really agree with that because it is one of those things where the story is open-ended. By the time you get to its closing credits, and it ends off on like a moment with like, goddamn, I got to watch the next one because I need to see the story complete. Yet it takes you on such an immaculate journey throughout. Yeah, I really love this movie. It's true. A lot.

You mentioned the drama over the comedy before. And that's something I was talking to Chris Miller about after the first screening that we were at was it's basically what they did for comedy over the last 10 years. Metamodernism is my favorite study of art. Metamodernism is a sincere irony and ironic sincerity. It's this blend of self-awareness where the audience is part of the participation of creating. So you have to be a futurist to make a movie in metamonorist sensibilities. What I hope the metamodernism of the way Lord and Miller make their art translates into

next is we've accomplished the comedy being so self-referential. Everything's got that Deadpool flavor, Lego movie, all those things. This is the most sincere drama I've seen. in a really long time in its earnesty and it's wearing itself on its sleeve. And without the honest audience participation in that, you don't buy a movie with a bunch of Spider-Men being this big of a drama.

You don't buy something being this emotionally available unless you have that relationship with the audience. And what I hope metamodernism evolves into is a more sincere drama so we can start being honest with each other about like the mental health elements, the drama, the sincerity, the openness. And I think that's where they're going. I think that's

really beautiful maturation as filmmakers as well as the audience watching it. And I think that's what this movie represents and how it's like empire. Man, Coy, I can't wait for you to talk about the duplicitousness and the duality. There will be duality and deplicitous. When we get to that Donald Lover cameo, you better believe it. In the gallery scene when they're fighting vulture, there's like a mild breakdown of exactly their metamodermostatic. Yes.

When shouts out. Technically, it's commenting in the art, but it's still art. I love that so much. Bag sack, thank you so much for telling us about your friend, man. So the guy made the Lego thing is Lego Me Online. He recreated the trailer as well, which went very viral, deservedly so. I think having Spider-Man India's character in here was genius because now this movie's going to make even way more.

Trillions of dollars. Damn, they really delivered on that. It also showed what happens to Spider-Man without trauma. I think that it is. What a delight. What I'd love to, especially thinking about the ending, was this movie introduced a whole new set of spiders that you mainly focus on. I'm not just talking about, help me out here, guys.

What is it called when you, where Miguel O'Hare is running everything in the spider universe the community of everyone spider society society yeah the spiders not talking about the spider side i'm talking like spider punk spider man india uh those guys what i thought what i think is so cool is like the first movie had like

spider man noir and the rest of them right spider ham and all that yeah so they had all those guys and then they're not in this movie until the very end obviously they're not in this movie and said you get these other characters that you other spider man characters flesh out and then part three is going to be

the one where you combine all of them. And you know we'll get a couple new ones too. Yeah, yeah. And you will get even more. But to watch, I can't wait to see, like, Spider-Man Nour interact with some of these other guys that we got to meet. I want him and Ben Riley to talk so bad. Because Andy Samberg was doing his best Nick Cage.

I want to see the Nick Cage, like, drama off. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we got to talk about that. Okay, really cool. Let's play a little bit of catch-up here because I've been monitoring as much as I can. Nicholas Cage. Yeah, yeah, I really Just thinking about my past

It's very emotional right now This is 10 out of 10 for me All right guys, watch Greg do some massive readjustments here Do it in real time, real time So real quick Other than the I know we'll probably talk extensively about this

Coy especially on your end John What was your personal favorite Easter egg In the movie? If you had to nail it down I know John is really good at narrowing things down to one thing favorite singular easter egg in this film i know you can do it john i've never believed in

you more than i do right now oh golly don't worry john be confident it's really easy to be confident it's really easy to be confident yeah don't don't think of an elephant uh i really really liked every easter egg that i in this movie they were all the best easter eggs um I'm trying to think of something that's not super obvious. I don't know. Anything Spider-Punk said is my favorite. It's all right. You bought enough time for me to get to the first super shit out of the day.

There it is. We did it. Well, that's the thing is, like, you think of Easter eggs in this movie, and your brain goes on overload just because it's like every frame is Easter eggs on Easter eggs. Bagman. I was happy Bagman was there. I was happy security guard Spider-Man showed up. All right. So for those who are not just listening but watching, is this visual okay for you guys right now? Yeah? Do you think this looks? What are you guys? There you go. The call, the opening frame. Okay. Yeah. As long as this looks good to everyone, especially, you know, these guys like they contribute. I want to make sure their names shine on screen. Oh, my God, I mess it all up. We can't see their names now. Now they have no names. Now they have no names. Now they're just an amount of time. They're all Robert Paulson right now.

All right. Hold on. Let me just readjust this a tiny bit. Bear with me, ladies and gentlemen. I know what I'm doing. You are the master. You're the king. I didn't catch that until the second time, Mike. Mike, the Fjord, they have Yankee playing Yuri Spider-Man in the dorm room, which I love very much. Oh, is that the game?

Yeah, he was literally playing the Spider-Bad game on PS4. I like that Miles also has just a, it's not a Spider-Man thing. It's just he has a sign above his bed that is in the supreme text, but it just says sashimi. Yeah. I love the multiversal. stuff in this one too like the first where they had that weird Seth Rogen poster just because there's so many of those like details I can't wait to frame by frame

yeah and I don't know this is this says like the perfect oh hey does this look fine looks great we got names we got screen we got super chat line up yeah the super chat with the bottom of the chat chat there's so much is that our first one John yeah yeah Johnny

Johnny Johnny on honor of Johnny John take it away nice Spider-Man ranking and thank you for your contribution today how about a ranking from each one of y'all three on tarentino nolan and villeneuve's filmography after their upcoming movies that uh i mean i would be super thrilled to rank all of those people's movies and to see the ones i haven't seen from each of them which is only a couple yeah i would love to do that i especially would love to do that for um i mean it might be fun to do after nolan's

uh opanheimer comes out are you a huge nolan fan um but tarentino he's working on his last movie uh i I think it's called the movie critic right now. So maybe after Dune, after Oppenheimer, and then after the last turn. Yeah. It's true, guys. The live doesn't start until Koi goes off on someone. Remember that. Yeah.

Someone get some intolerance going in the chat. Yeah, I'll come out you quick. It's your one opportunity. But thank you for the super chat there, Johnny. Bucky Barnes. Buck. Atlanta. Hey, guys.

Sorry, I can't be there today. I've seen the movie in two hours. Hey. Oh, avoiding spoilers. See you next week. Appreciate you, Greg. John and Coy. We appreciate you. Bucky is usually the one who is holding down the fort here when it comes to, you know, making sure everything's going smoothly in the

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Thank you. Dr. Father figure. Yes. Okay, yes. This is a great one. Dr. Father figure, thank you. Coy, why don't you read that one? Love you guys.

I think this could shape up to be the best movie trilogy ever. Definitely the best sequel to the best comic book movie. I actually resoundingly agree. I think there is a lot of interesting takes on all the Spider-Man. I think all the Spider-Man movies, all 10 of them have merit in their own way. But I pretty confidently believe that this is the best pair of them. And if the third sixth-the-landing, which I think it will, I think this might be my favorite trilogy of all time, which is high stakes.

But, yeah, this is a beautiful, beautiful series of movies. I'd be very, I've heard someone to debate this. We'll take, like, let's say, one minute to do this. I've heard some people say this that there's no way this could be the, the best one because it's an animated movie it's not you know like there's this weird thing where some people feel like it's less than or doesn't quantify in the same category because it's animated i think in a lot of ways putting an animated movie is a lot harder to put together because you can't just fix it in the edit you might think that but you really kind of like

map shit out to a t so much so where you don't have you have to be a lot more meticulous and a lot more crafty about the way you put everything together do you You know what I mean? Like, I think James Gunn was actually speaking on that when he was talking about why he was so impressed with Into the Spider-Verse. I honestly am probably of the three of us, the one that struggles the animation the most, and this is my favorite Spider-Man movie. And that's just because of my connection to character and the way I, the way my brain digests art, I just prefer live action generally. But as someone who's willing to say that, that is so ignorant to denigrate an entire medium just because of, like, it being in a format. so yeah no that's that's like the same people that are like we shouldn't allow any comic book movies to be in the Oscars uh why they're movies like the Oscars are to celebrate motion pictures these are moving pictures and everything is a based on something like not everything but biopics are based on a life and lots of things are based on books and some things are based on other things. So just to exclude an entire medium for your own ignorance is your own ignorance and like what Kyle's saying in the chat too it's better because it's animated exactly the animation is such a big part of its character and voice.

like they really lean into it it's not like they they cheap out with doing and it like it's a part of its voice yeah yeah yeah yeah and it has all the heights of a big blockbuster animated movie but it has all the artistry of an indie animated movie and i feel like you have in some ways more control over an animated movie but also you don't have the same kind of human nuances of performance and so while you may be restricted in live action to your footage at the same time in live action you know you have to translate so much from so scratch all right that went into three minutes people we gotta tone it down now Alice yeah what John said is now irrelevant Alistair MacDonald John read that in your best Scottish accent Best film I've seen this year

I love that Hope users are well Love from Scotland All right Very good Good is golf club scottland I want a riotist like Whooping Scottish

I do I can see this going down as the best movie of the year for myself. My current favorite movies of the year are John Wick 4, missing. And I would say, Guardian, I kind of prefer a couple of these other movies over at Guardian. Mine are Air, BlackBerry, Guardians. I haven't seen Air yet. Air was my number one until Guardians, and then I saw BlackBerry and it's like, whoa, and then this.

So those are my top four, and those will likely be my top 10. Yeah, there's something. They're also different. There's something about the movie missing that just. I love how much you love with that movie. I was like, this is really just so insane. Oh, cool. And I really liked Evil Dead Rise a lot.

I love that a week later, missing is still like, oh my God for you. That makes me so happy. That was one of those videos where I was like, I know this is not going to get a lot of views. That I don't care. I want whoever watches. I love it.

I hope they enjoy. Oh, my God, we got a $20 super chat. It's time. Get ready. It's from Tarantino. Get ready. Guys, everyone listen. Super chat

John I turned on the monitor and tested it John that was such a big moment of truth here was so funny of course this is what happened it was the quietest pause

ever momentous silence it's it's it's all right spectacular super chat breaking my heart

John breaking my heart I tested it out he did that's why I heard it real close I heard it. I heard it in the headphones. I'm sure you just didn't play it from the computer. I am absolutely certain.

I've been rushing to get to a $20 super chat just to play this out of three seconds. To monitor it. And it. Can you guys hear anything? Look at that. It is playing. Someone can hear it. Can you guys hear it?

Type in the chat if you can hear it here. I'll make a separate media. Where in the multiverse? Just in case. Wait, we need to refresh. Hold on a sec. This is so funny.

Oh, they do hear it. Yeah. Oh, they hear it. Oh, they hear it. I don't know why the monitor is doing it now. It wasn't. Hold on a second. For some reason,

why is the chat refreshing on the, are we like scrolled up or something? That's why. Yeah, we didn't know. That's funny. Hold on. Okay, hold on. I need to redo the chat here super quick.

Tech on Tech on Tech. I could do it, John's style. well it's harder when you're texting me because it's like producer notes it's like the producers watching and you're like when you're not aware of something happening um all right it's all good you're so money baby

I'm just refreshing this okay that's not it oh gosh John's watching oh no hold on to text you I mean oh no I'm going to start texting What do I do?

I would love if somebody had that response to my attention. Oh, no. Can't screw up in front of John. Oh, God. Let me see. Now I am like in my own head. Let me see this. I know I have in my head.

It's okay. There's so money, baby. So money. All right. Okay. It's updated. We just had to refresh it. That is fixed.

It's so good. It's so loud. It's so loud. Here's what we are. got to do we got to run an experiment here we got to run an experiment because now we can't hear it not only can we not hear but they're all they're all going it's so loud making super chat idea of how loud it is I love that we kept playing it and they're like no everyone be quiet I'm going to hear it it is so loud I just heard it the spectacular

funer anything lower it yeah lower it's so funny to me okay I'm sure oh man Okay, so that's on monitor, and now I'm going to turn it down. Okay, because everything is... I don't care what anyone says. This turned out better than I could have ever hoped for. Chaos energy is strong. I'm so sorry. My ears.

I'm sorry. I'm deaf now. Oh, please not again. No, just lower it. It's going to stay. For some reason, we just can't hear it. This is making 50% of the volume that it was before. Please stop crying.

All right. I'm turning. this to a quarter of the of the volume. This was meant, this is one of those things where you like, you know, you want to make your wife happy. You get her a gift and it just totally backfires. That is what happened here. Trying to do a kindness. There you go.

Okay. Got it. Oh, man. All right. So, yeah, it was working. It's not working now. But they can hear it. So it's okay.

So we just can't hear it, but it's at 50%. Yeah, it's less than 50%. All right. Everyone brace yourselves. I'm going to play it again and tell me if it's fine. I love that this is going to go on our podcast channel. And it's so loud of there. It's just us.

And that won't even be in here unless I find a way to mix it. Oh, that's fine. Okay. I'm going to hit play again. This is the one. I just hit play. You just hit. No, no, no.

You hit the little eyeball. This one? Oh, you can. No, no, no. Don't hit that one. Hit the spec one because that'll be the appropriate sound level. It says it's on. Is it just going repeated?

No, no, no. There's a bar right here. it will play when it's playing and when it's okay i'm putting it at 50% just tell me if this is fun hit it again I love the amount of time committed all right good

or what's your actual question we got there we got there thank you guys for putting it all the hard work that you do you're goddamn right we just we just will do what we can they said they can't it. Too low now. All right. Don't worry. All right. All right. Okay. This is not 50%.

You clearly went in. I said I went to a quarter. All right. I'm going to make it a little bit loud. All right. I appreciate you guys. Now hit the eyeball twice. I appreciate you guys. No, no. We'll just try it on the next one. Thank you guys for making all the hard work. You guys are my favorite channel. Thank you for being patient with us. How do you think the series will end? Oh, I haven't even thought about that. Will Miles meet Tom Holland or Andrew Garfield by the end? Well, that raises a great question about the live action Miles Morales that we are going to be having now that Amy Pascal has announced it next to Kevin Feigey saying it's going to be in the MCU. That was a great moment. Do you guys get the joke?

Yep, it made him real, real happy that he was talking about that. But, yeah, that I think it would probably, I don't know if it would just land where he's like stuck in the live action universe. Although that would be interesting. because we kind of do would we want to see no you know I would want to see personally I would want to see this this trilogy conclude and it be its own thing and then the live action miles Morales be something separate I personally would prefer that instead of it just continuing on because I don't feel like a I feel you just end up comparing it to what the animated one was the entire time well I think I think it would also mess up the actual canonical boundaries of things because it's established that Miles's universe just exists in this animated form you have live action characters show up

so I feel like if we randomly switched him into live action and didn't just make it so that he's like a CG element in an otherwise live action world I just think yeah if you're gonna do live action miles just start new Coy you got 30 seconds go I honestly think that this will run parallel to the live action universe

but also allow us to be familiar with Miles so that when you introduce Miles it is a familiar character but he's going to have his own different take on that universe. So I do think we're going to have Andrew and Toby and certain live action elements in the third film. But when that concludes, it won't be the miles we've lived with for these three movies in live action. It'll be a new miles, especially since they're not going to use Meek Moore, who's 28, 29 as a 15-year-old kid. So I think a Tom Holland-esque character needs to die for a live-action miles to exist. I don't see that being the conclusion beyond the Spider-Verse, but I do see that running parallel to a candidate event where we might have a post-credit scene introducing that new miles going forward.

you did it coy i timed him we have a stopwatch here in front of us now um all right let's go next here i also think that ties into madame web really interestingly but that's another conversation i feel like this will tie into madame web i think sony is on a great path of like great film okay movie great film okay movie just put put a great spider-man movie in between your weird sony movies say good for what this is okay movie good for what this is okay movie great movie good for what this is all right guys we're going to round two this for the umblash all right ready hit it hit it tell us if it sounds okay all right it's at 50 percent now yes all right one two three super chat which is funny to me is that better is it better

comment now one to ten it my when i came up with this it was brilliant and it was brilliant and it It was funny to hear it. It was so funny, but yeah, maybe I should have lowered the volume right away. Now we just don't know. You know, you'll just stick next time you'll export it. Perfect, much better. There we go. And by next time, we can have it programmed into this machine and thus have even more control.

Nice. Eon Blosh. Hey, haven't seen the movie yet. Going to see it tonight. But, hey, I'm serious. I could be and want to be part of the crew up there. When Secret Wars comes around us through a rewatch of the whole MCU with new rock stars, that's just an easy assembly to do.

do. All I got to do is hit up new rock stars. Quarry, like, all that guy's got like 200 hours you can spare. Easy peasy. Who's got editor? Yeah, this is going to be a knock. We'll knock this out. No problem. That'd be fun. No, it would be fun. One of these days. It's been a while. I've done that a couple of times where I've brought people on who were just viewers of the channel. And I think that's a fun thing, especially when it goes great. It's really fun when they're really socially awkward. That's what is really fun. John, you read this one from Jake Colby P.

Oh, in the words of Corey Coleman from Double Toasted. Shee! 10 out of 10. Better than sex. Phenomenal movie. Oh, this is a, I do want to talk about this. Because I actually felt this the three times I saw into the Spider-Verse. And there were a couple of Spider-Punk lines where I couldn't quite make it out.

And I thought it was doing the thing that happened before. But then I would ask Olivia, like, what did Spider-Punk? And she knew exactly what he said. Interesting. So I couldn't tell if it was just my ears. But she knew, like the capitalism, when it went, when Spider-Punk says, it's a metaphor for capitalism. I didn't hear that at all. And people were laughing.

And I was like, what the fuck do you? Yeah. It's correct about propaganda. Yeah. So, Dan V-900. Thank you again for being back here. Dan V-900 says, did any of you have audio issues? I did my first time with the opening monologue.

ending monologue, Hobie's dialogue. I can't cover that where I had no issues at another theater hurt the experience. This is a common sentiment that I am seeing

being expressed. It's like Christopher Nolan did the sound mixing. He's one. I don't care about dialogue. Got Dunkirked. I personally had no issues in our screening ironically,

but then I did have issues at the premiere. So the premiere... That's where it doesn't matter. Yeah. That's not the audience that's want to be invested in the artistry. The opening of the premiere

I actually heard them adjust the levels after Gwen's monologue because they were like we were all I noticed the whole theater going like and there were only like 20 of us that were at both screening so only 20 of us knew that she was even talking to have it be wrong and then you'd hear

her a little bit but then the drums were so loud so there were issues at the premiere in that setting and I I want to see it again with like you know an AMC audience like a regular theater to see how it's mixed but our screening I had a good experience I had no issues at all at our screening and then I had a couple

with the premiere with Hobie and a few other things. I saw it again at the, at an AMC at just one of their normal screens and I did have that thought the second time of like, oh, this is a movie that really needs like a well-tuned one of those like Primo Dolby sound experiences

because I was sitting there part of the time going, is the mix off or is the mix just low right now? Or did they have a different mix where the dialogue isn't as far to the front or something? Have you seen them with the cards they're giving out thanking projectionist saying like, thanks for putting this set a seven. You could up to a seven. They literally made Spider-Verd, like the directors and

the team behind it made cards to give the projections when it's right. It's been that much of an issue. There's branded Spider-Verse token. Wow. I want one. All right, John, read it away. Thank him first. Diego Guevara. Thank you so much for being here and for contributing to the Convo. I rarely leave a movie theater utterly speechless and I make movie going. A religious thing. Del Toro was right. Animation is a medium, and this is one of the best movies I've seen in love with this film. I'm glad you agree, and it is absolutely a medium, not a genre. You heard it here. It's kind of weird how animation still struggles to be seen as a medium. We don't specify live action movie. It's just another format to tell a story. Yeah, it's just cultures across the world seem to have a broader array of, like, more common.

of applications for animation whereas here it's like adult animation is more prevalent than it has been but I feel like even adult animation has like a kiddish skew in the states well you see the thing is with the Spider-verse film specifically prior to this prior to these films what we have were live action Spider-Man movies

and then we get this animated movie that justifies its existence in the way of this movie can only exist in animation that's the only way it can exist when the audience has already been prepared, like they prep themselves for live action. So I feel like there's a much bigger argument to be made for specifically this film.

The closest will ever get to live action Spider-Verse that I think will work is No Way Home, and this does another thing entirely. This has so many levels on top of No Way Home. I think you're right. Like, this was made for animation. I'm so happy for it. They were like, we're making Spider-Vers live action.

I'd be like, why? Don't. It's Madam Webb, John. Of course. Don't because we got Matt. Adam Webb and that's all we ever need. Chili, Chibi, Coy. Why don't you read that, buddy?

Chili, chili. One thing in my mind is how the hell was Sony able to completely replicate Lego stop motion into the original Lego movies unless they got all the original animators. They got one animator, a 14-year-old boy that was delightful and wonderful and talented and has a big future in animation

and he had a homework to do. Do you remember the name of that boy? I do not. I mean, the channel? Lego me, Lego me, something like that. Something with me in it. He made the trailer So if you go on Twitter, he's got like all that stuff pinned. But if you type in like Lego trailer Spider-Man, Lego Spider-Man, he'll pop up and he's a delight. How great would it be to see a tie into the Lego movie?

I would be so happy. Lego Spider-Man. And I think they repurposed... He's one of their best? I think they repurpose Jay Jonah Jameson's audio from the first Spider-Man movie. At least that one scene, I think he's, I think he's a Nexus level being where JJ is the same in every universe, which I love. And he should be. But also the Lego Batman, Lego Spider-Man crossover is how we get Amalgam.

Lego owns the rights to both, just like Funko owns the rights of both. That'd be an easier actual legal issue to get like a dark claw in Amalgam universe. True. All righty. Let's go here. Jefferson's taking his wife, from Dan V-900 again, Jefferson's taking his wife's last name was interesting. Notice that, yeah. I did not.

Because I'm woke. His badge says Morales. Oh, really? Yeah, his name tag. That's demasculating. I'm wondering if that's going to be. Did he also cut off his dad? testicles. There's a whole deleted scene.

Here you go. This is why we can't have any more children after Miles. Yeah. It was simple. I also am wondering if Jefferson Davis is going to be his name in the new 42 universe. Like if the one that Miles is trapped in, he finds out his dad's last name is different. That'd be an interesting little like. I must read the rest of the super chat.

Please. Jesus. Coy. Please. No Davis for him. The comics explaining why Miles has his mom's last name was convoluted when the meta reason was Miles Davis is too famous. Oh, yeah, good point. And Jefferson Davis wasn't he like a bit of a controversial Confederate leader leader yeah

So I think they're writers of Spider-Man Didn't bother to Google This whole Morales family Let's just call them the Morales family Let's just call them the Morales I'm going to create the first Jefferson Davis Ever known I honestly

Brian Michael Menace is a very very Progressive and worldly and historical man I'm wondering if he was trying to like reclaim the power of the name And people just didn't take to it Because that's not something he would accidentally do We don't know that maybe that's how he learned Paul and I have to change the name of our podcast

because there's another real spoilers out there It's called a cease and desist No, we just got a bunch of Twitter messages Which is the 2023 Seas and Dissist Asioli Who read the last one?

Me? John I am glad Thank you for being here and for contributing to the chat I am glad we got a legit cliffhanger in this movie A lot of Marvel movies set up for sequels

but sort of wrap up things in the movie. But this was great. And I agree. I feel like this movie managed to bring it to a point where it doesn't just feel like the book stopped at random. Like it feels like a complete chapter, but that also definitely begs the next part of the story. Well, that's partly too why I think, what was your bottom line that you think Miles Morales, live action should be the same one? No. Yeah.

I don't think so either. Because one thing that I was thinking about too is that with the live action one, they probably might want to see him paired up with a bunch of other Spider-Men as well, because that is our introduction with Miles Morales. Miles Morales is born of not just his own origin, but his Uncle Ben is not just Uncle Aaron, but also the Spider-Man dying. And I think killing one of our Spider-Men, whether it's Toby or Andrew or Tom, would be a great introduction to Miles. Well, the other thing, too, that I think this movie really exceeded at was one of my main. takeaways when watching this was Miles Morales. Like I loved Miles and into the Spider-Verse. I did, but there was,

so much of the experience was a takeaway and other characters were a takeaway, too. Like, while I loved him in that one, when I think about this one, I'm always thinking about Miles specifically. I know there's like a lot of great Easter eggs and cameos and Spot is great. I do want to talk about Spot. We got to like find time to really talk about Spot in a second.

But Miles specifically was phenomenal here and I really think we should, I want, like, for the live action one for him to not feel like he has to get someone else's shadow even though usually Peter Parker does come before. One of my biggest takeaways of why this is a five-star film for me and I looked at all my five-star

films and a big through line for me of what makes a movie perfect is when it transcends either the original or the medium and this does both. I personally enjoy Miles Morales more in the movies than in the comic books. Like I find Miles more captivating in this translation and I usually enjoy a comic book

better as a comic book. Like No Way Home, I enjoy more than the Spider-verse saga because I think to accomplish something unique to the medium. This, I enjoy more than Miles Morales or the Spider-Verse saga. So this is a clean five for me because this Miles is more interesting. So I totally agree. And the twist at the end, I think, serves this medium better.

The idea of Miles v. Miles is much more interesting in the medium of animation for me. True. True. That. Oh, my gosh. John. Oh, really? I don't know.

I don't know if this converts to 20 because I don't know at our INR Indian conversion money. Oh, sure. So we're doing it. doing it we're doing it everybody listen super chat see the thingy hit the eyeball hit the eyeball again we're going to hit it again tell us it again where's the thing this will not stop causing me just three hours of problems okay I mean the super chat yeah sound waves are good yeah It must be playing. Who reads this one?

Best Spider-Man movie, the story. Everything is great. I do feel getting kind of bored in the first 40 minutes overall. It's a 10. And a special mention to Spider-Man India as an Indian. It was so great to see him in the world of Mubatan. Everything was culturally perfect. I loved, absolutely loved him in this movie because he,

when he comes onto the screen Spider-Man so much tragedy is associated with Spider-Man and he has the complete antithesis to it. I just love his whole approach of how how being Spider-Man's easier. Yeah, another

for me. He's a very relatable. And I love the whole thing about, actually, let me try to find this comment while we're on it. I think I saw someone mention it about the dad. While you look, I also really enjoy that the through it already you better hurry well fine you go ahead and talk i won't even say the thing i mean it's not that i want to talk i just want to like tie it into this super chat i'll go ahead

and have that it says wait how is inspector sings death canon when the spot and miles are both anomalies so the spot shouldn't have been in that world to begin so would you have never destroyed the alchemics building well that's what literally miguel's trying to stop is anomalies causing things that should have happened so it is canon that it happened because it shouldn't have been able to be canon like it made a new canon the problem is canon was him not being there him being there is why Miguel has to change things but he was Miguel was upset that he saved inspector sing right and um so that's that's where his question is coming at so I guess like spots still shouldn't have been there I think he would have died some other way should have died right I'm saying like

he would have died in another way which would have been he would have died in whatever yet natural way he was supposed to whereas this is just muddying that whole process up I I get where your confusion is coming from, but I think it tracks. And the thing I was going to say was I love that the Spider-Man humor translates between my... I thought it was really clever to have Miles open with ATM machine. M is for machine, which drives me crazy to just like PIN number. The N and PIN number is number. And then the Chai T or redundancy.

I love that there was a parallel of humor in the Spider-Man. One that even Miguel has a certain humor even without becoming joky. But that's what I mean is that they have the same problem. Like Chai T and ATM machine are the same issue. And I thought that was a clever way to have. the humor parallel. Sure. Well, I love, how do you pronounce his name?

Who? Spider-Man, India. Paveter, I'd have to look. I always get the last name. I don't want to say Pavarker, but I don't think that's exactly right. Rocker 327, thank you so much. He is asking, how do you think the score and soundtrack impacted the movie? Huge.

I think it-hutiously impacted the movie. Big all impact, big-ly. Yeah, I thought it provided a great sense of, It's propulsive, as John would like to say. But it also had some great foreboding elements in it as well. Was there duality? There was a duality in duplicitousness to a lot of the high parts where it brought a lot of entreeb in the base, the duality.

No, I thought. Preventier brabacar. Yeah, it's a pro bakrbacar. Pavita. Say confidently. Pavita Prabhakar. I think it's supposed to obviously kind of evoke. Peter Parker, but yeah, Paveter, Pabukar.

Yeah. Yeah. What were we just saying before that, though? The score? The score. No, yeah. It's right down. It's on screen.

No, Metro Boomer, like, there's so many great vibe. Like, I thought this movie wove really nicely between the soundtrack elements and the score elements. And I thought what Metro Booman did with the vibe of the overall movie, shifting from vibes to these really eerie, unsettling, like distorted sounds really just evokes like worlds coming apart and I thought it was beautiful. I also thought they did a really good job of the score making it feel like it's different universes. I thought that Spider-Man 29-9 score

being a different flavor but still some parallels to Miles of score and also the use of aggressive horns that they did so well in Prouder's world really tie into the universe of Miles and I like that that like almost elephant sound is the sound

of Miles's universe but they're able to incorporate that in other worlds and I've been listening to score pretty much nonstop actually went for a run to it and it's really interesting how motivating certain elements are and how like emotional other elements are so when you're not doing a task that is

mood dependent it's interesting like just running I was like I'm slowing down and I didn't catch myself like subconsciously it's that strong of a score and yeah as shouted out by a Ricotron 7 I was talking about the Spot Vision soundtrack that was I think they used because with Spot especially

that we'd really got to move on the spot especially he starts off so funny but then we give these teases via his music of no there's something truly menacing about to come with this guy before we see him like really start to have the dark matter transformation yeah

let's see here let's see here do eyes who read the last one Corey why she just the frao dios to bendiga is that the name bandiga is what my

is what my abuela would say in place a goodbye hearing Miles mom say it to him with such love absolutely broke me. I loved all of the elements of other languages not being subtitled because life doesn't have subtitles. Whereas I really liked that to be continued at the end being the comics, I loved, I adored

that they put in the old thought bubbles not as speech bubbles, but as the squares that comic books have. But they didn't do that with language because in life you don't have those. So I really enjoyed all the language because New York is not a place that is just English. And I really like that it felt like New York because of that. I like that it represented different cultures so

beautifully. I love the entire scene on top of the rooftop because I've been to those parties. I've been to that gathering and it felt so authentic to have so many different languages bounce around and that is a huge part of what makes Miles Morales so unique is those two cultures and I love the scene in the opening with the guidance counselor reflecting

that, them talking about those cultures and not making it like heavy handed. So yes agreed, loved it. Yeah, what are we talking about? Language. Yeah, I think the next time I show you a foreign film I'm going to be like life doesn't have subtitles I was cool.

Deal with it. So learn Tamil. Pick up on this shit. That's the trick. You don't watch other movies. I thought the mom in a lot of ways was like the big heart of this movie. You know what I mean? I thought that she was like,

it's cool that the first movie had so much more. Even though the dad's life is what's at stake in this movie, I felt the mom was more of the heart of this film between the relationship between her and Miles. It was because I don't really think about shit with her, you know, when I think about Into the Spider-Verse. I really don't actually. I can't really think of it.

There's a lot more time with him as dad in the first one. But yeah, a lot of those scenes, you really see the difference in dynamics and the specifics of the relationships of what Miles has with his mom and how tender that is. I thought that was beautiful. What's going on, John? Mohit Maniar in the chat is setting us straight. Pavitra Prabhakar is the Indian pronunciation. Shut up, John. Shut up, Meg.

Oh, yeah, and Ganky's playing Spider-Man, too. Oh, Spider-Man 2, not Spider-Man 1. Apologies, Spider-Man 2. And he's not your guy in the chair. I like that they acknowledged how they just made Ned Ganky and, like, sassily. We're like, no, that's not who I am. And also, Ned's beating him up at school. Yeah, I love that.

We got a, we got a really big super chat. I got to, I got to make sure. Oh, yes. I got to make sure we say, oh, my God. I got to hit Butterfly R. I'm just going to. It's okay. Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it. Oh, no. We're back in action. We got this. We're Looney Tunes. We find it. Everyone. Everyone be quiet.

Yes, Tom Holland should play live action Miles Morales. I think people will be very... If people don't get out there, if that were to happen and be like, you know, I just don't see how you should change the race of a character from what he originally was. If we can't have black people play white people, why can't white people play black people? Yeah, Tom Holland looks like a Miles Morales. I'm not going to think about this at all and understand what the difference is. No, dude, one to one.

It's all the same. We live in an equal meritocracy. What are you talking about? Gabe DeCasco, DeCoso, always giving so much. Thank you so much. You have earned it. You have earned it. This truly is a...

Spectacular. Super chat. Oh, yeah. Imagine I can hear it. Super chat. Yeah. It's funny because I'd hear it's just silence for five seconds. He says,

this movie was something I wasn't expecting and I loved that there's a lot of ways this trilogy could end and that possibility makes me even more excited if the third movie lands

which I'm sure it will hands down can be one of the goat trilogies in cinema you know what I really love about it too that one of the first pieces of apprehension

that Greg had conjured up in his soul the duplicitousness of being excited but worried of dual duality experience the nervous this the nervous this they came up was when they changed the fucking directors you know

and and i'm like why would you do that this movie the first one was like a phenomenon don't do that that's crazy talk and then they managed to deliver something even better yeah i don't know if i've ever seen a trilogy uh be a five and then have another five ever uh and what i have what i found out too i believe if my information is correct is that these directors are the same once I did Avatar and Legend of Cora, both shows, which I have completed. Watch them on our Patreon. Oh, yeah, I think that was,

and I love the animation, especially the fight sequences. And once I was told that after watching it, then I was reflecting on certain sequences. Oh, yeah, I can see that now. That's crazy. I mean, what a step up. I love that. I don't even remember the names of any of the directors

of any of these films. This was like 14 of them. Yeah, I'm a monster, and I don't either. I just, I know that the spearheaded by Lord and Miller has become a conversation. I just go, Lord and Miller made these movies. Thanks, guys. Just you two sitting and drawing.

Tim Burton made the nightmare before Christmas. That's right. Blowing it by hand, credit where it's due. And they voice everyone. It does suffer from that one thing, unfortunately, is that like, it's like nightmare before Christmas that a lot of people don't remember. Did Soul as well, no way. I love Soul.

Yeah. And Chris Pratch should play my dad in live, actually. I thought Miguel O'Hara was more terrifying. God, I love the chase sequence. He was incredible. Also, I thought the, one of the things I thought was so in my love of meta is that they made Spot a villain that we became miles over. The whole ride to the movie, we were like, Spott's going to be like a throwaway villain

of the week. And then they referenced that in the movie. And then the reason he becomes a bigger villain is out of pure need. We'll talk about Spot more. But I love that we judged him just as the movie judged him. And I think that's what makes this trilogy so interesting is the first movie, the villains are big movies and big villains you expect. the second movie he's unique to Miles

in universe. They picked a villain that is in our universe, not that terrifying and they made him specific to Miles's universe unique. So there's so many levels of meta diving into the conversation around those elements within his universe that is brand new and unique to us. Well, it seems like what will

probably happen in part three may might sound a little predictable but it's all about the journey on how you get there is that eventually you know, Miguel O'Hara and Miles will have to put aside their differences. They've got a lot of different plots set up.

You got Miles Prowler. Miles Taylor, Tails Prouler. You got, you got Miguel O'Hara, you got Gwen stepping in to help, the debate about what if he does save Jefferson. Then you got Spot.

And Spot, like this movie centers it with Spot being the antagonist, but I feel like the third movie, they'll have to eventually put aside their differences and all the Spider-Men will have to work together to stop Spot. Because even after watching, I'm like, you'd stop this guy. I just have no clue.

Well, yeah. They'll have the science their way through it. Yeah. That's what the finale is. Them doing science. I love the growth. I mean, that would be so fun. I love the growth in the arc of that and the way that, yeah, Spot goes from being this innocuous thing to being more of a threat and then to just giving way to a situation that is really bad.

And we don't even. Yes. Yeah, like saving the actual, like, let's go get and fight him for later. Yeah. He went from like villain to roll an Emmerich film. Like, it's an actual zeit guy shift. villain. I love that so much. And I do think, you know, even though we know that as an

element, there's so many other elements. It isn't predictable because that's just one piece of a puzzle. Yeah. There's a bit of like a xenophobic quality that Miguel has towards Piles. Like, there's something about like you were not supposed to be, not xenophobic. That's not the right word for it.

I think there's a general othering. He's a racist, yeah. There's something about like... He didn't accept his empanata. he really has this disdain for what he is well i think that's you know a beautiful way to have an anti-hero actually be an anti-hero i think we always have anti-heroes be like just light villains whereas i love that spider-man 2099 was someone doing the right thing the wrong way he's trying to solve it's the trolley problem do you hit the one person or do you hit these hundred people and

that's that's the beauty of what spider-man 29-9 faces is mcgello hair is a good guy in the comic books and he's a good guy here he's just in the comics and here handling you're it wrong. I've always loved that Miguel O'Hara is the only Spider-Man or the first Spider-Man have offensive abilities with his wall crawling because he has talons that make him crawl. So he's literally like puncturing

the walls as he's climbing and he uses those talents offensively. Like he'll rip you to shreds, but he's a good guy. And that ties beautifully in how he handles the mile situation. He's got these elements of anti-hero and in the comics it's because he grows up in a world where Nuevo York is dangerous and it's gone wrong.

It's like Batman. Things have like tipped the scale. to the point where he has to be this aggression. So I love that they were able to tell all of that in a way that ties to Miles and make it that kind of aversion to, okay, the greater good, greater good. And then the movie ending on, like, we were supposed to be the good guys. It's a beautiful and nuanced conversation. Yeah, absolutely.

You did good, Coy. And, hey, Roman Yoder, thanks for keeping a lookout here. Dan V-900. John, take it away. Absolutely. My head canon is that Mayday has to be an anomaly. Peter chose to have kids due to Miles. Miles, as an

anomaly, didn't break the world with that Peter dying. Miguel was wrong. The canon events were awesome. Yeah. Yes. Wait, let me do that again. I think I get you. My head count is that

it has to be an anomaly. Because him meeting Miles causes that baby. And they mention that specifically. to have kids due to Miles. Miles is an anomaly. Didn't break the world without Peter dying. Miguel was wrong. The Canada events were awesome.

Miguel was wrong. The Canada events were wrong. Separate. Mr. Miguel. It's okay. But I think I'm curious to know what you guys did because I think it checks

only in that it's not disrupting a major staple of the Spider-Man character really. I feel like there are iterations where Spider-Man and or Peter and Mary Jane have a kid, right? Really quick. I don't feel like it's...

I think there are certain events that are like it's sacrilege to break it, basically. You know, like... ASM-90. The captain has to die. The captain has to die, right? The uncle has to die or some shit like that. Crime Allie has to happen. But there's some things that can just happen, you know?

But there's certain things that they are a must, they are scripture. They have to go by it, you know? They're canon. I was going to say this is a lot like, the inverse of the captain in Mombatin dying is that it was going to happen anyway. So I think Peter and Mary were going to have a baby anyway, so it's not causing a canon event because, yes, him wanting a kid sooner because of Miles might be a thing, but it's not like

they weren't going to have a kid anyway. Just don't tell certain comic writers writing horribly right now about Spider-Man. All righty, Jack McHugh, thank you so much, Jack. Let me just make sure we're good. Do you think we will get a tease? John, if you waste my G-fuel, I swear. to Christ. What are you talking about? I've drank so much to that. Let me hold a can.

Yeah. I'm going to finish that. That's about a two-thirds. About two-thirds full. I'm pacing myself. I don't want to have to jump up and pee. That is a man who is drinking is cheap. That is a man who stops videos to go pee, though. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. You should see

I love you dearly. A lot of peeing. And it's fine. It's easy to cut it out. But also, I'm trying to pace. That's smart. This man peas. This machine peas. StreamLab link isn't working. John, what'd you do? I did no such thing.

I did nothing at all. Fix it. I will. Is it because of this ad? Who is she? It shouldn't be. She's got exclusive gear. We should follow the link.

We should follow the link and see what she has to say. Check the pin comment. No. Okay. All right. Where is it? Unpin message Just add the other one from the document there

What document? Hit pages And it'll open up It should open up John, please Give me the mouse I know where it is Just tell me Go into downloads

Geez First you don't drink your G-fuel And I go up to MCU DCU news Or just this one Summoning the pee gods John's gonna be peeing so much coming God John everyone be quiet

like we're doing right now there you go now we're at a third can you just chug the jeep fuel is about to be all right down like I am weigh it mother go to the bathroom truckers go to the bathroom leave a like on this video so john goes to the bathroom joe go to jack make you for crying out loud

do you think we'll get a tease to a live action miles and beyond the spider verse i hope not i hope not to let it be distracting it would be take away the whole talk of whatever this epic conclusion ought to be focus on this movie i don't want it i don't want it there's also and a lot of people aren't talking about this which is very interesting to me when lord and miller signed a uh multi deal with the devil which is why the movies are so good no when they signed uh like that multi

uh fucking picture deal with uh amazon and sony to do a show there's spider verse tv coming so i i think there's going to be a lot of stuff and i think that there might be a post-credit scene with live action miles but i wouldn't expect it to be too much uh incorporated in the actual film. Who cares about this TV shows? Am I right, guys? Always. They're less than. What's TV anymore? Just ask Loki and Wanda Vision. All righty.

Yeah, the worst. The worst. Guys, Bronson Wright Wolf is saying, have we spoken about the bad audio during the narration parts? We talked on that. We did touch on that. About 40 minutes ago. We did touch on that. We can't create chapters in real time. Find yourself a premium screen.

Creates a problem. Throw down for the good sound. Broad and right and well hold on i got to keep us on track here um okay i got this uh bronson right wolf thank you toby mcguire is and always will be the best spider man you hear that coy it's okay it's okay to be wrong he brought the right amount it's okay yeah it's okay to admit you're wrong he brought the right amount of anger charm and nerdiness to the character i'm going to use this moment to talk about the donald glover cameo because for some reason we haven't talked

about, like, in depth, yeah. But, yeah, I'd like, well, actually, you know what? Really quick. I was a bit distracted. I thought it was, like, kind of cool and crazy, but also a bit distracting seeing the footage from, like, Spider-Man. I thought it was perfect as their canon events. I thought it was a great way to bring it in.

Bit distracted. Interesting. Actually, it was the Andrew Garfield moment where I was like. It's got so handsome. It's a little weird just seeing it. I was just so aware of what they're doing in that moment, I guess. Yeah, it's just very apparent that you took a piece of... Like, I almost feel like if they had had an alternate take on hand, which is, like, asking a lot.

But, like, you know, yeah, it's like, oh, it's just a scene from the movie that you threw a filter on. A lot of people are talking about, like, the cool cameos from Toby and Andrew. I'm like, let's just footage from the movie. They have the rights to use this. It's not... Arguably, wouldn't, like, a frame of a comic book cover be the exact thing as how we perceived that angle from the comic from the movie? Like, that's the view of the viewer of that moment. They need to use the angle from the film because that is how we perceive it.

So just as you have an artist choosing the cover, that's what makes it canon. So those are the canon images of that event occurring in that universe. So it's necessary. My opinion. I'm just being nitpicky. That's fine. I think Toby McGuire, personally to answer your question authentically, I love that people love Toby and anyone can wear the mask and anyone is going to have their favorite Spider-Man.

That's what's beautiful about this character. He's my least favorite Spider-Man in the history of Spider-Man. But it's your experience in life. We've lived different lives You've fixed it You have a different life Therefore you have a different Spider-Man Yeah yeah yeah whatever

Just say This is how you're silent So we all Everyone present here on the stream On video agrees that Toby is the best thing I mean some of us read more comics and others So I'm not saying that makes us more accurate But it's certainly give me a bit more of an educated

Coy Gets me a bit more of an educated Look at the elitist over here It's different Koi It's a different medium It's not very spider punk of you Coy I mean, the establishment likes Toby. I'm going to shit on it.

Fun Me Productions A. Great to see you again. Fun Me. Filmmaker over here. Never say never. Uh, Josh Keenan cameo. Oh, this is Greg's moment of truth. Greg's moment of truth.

Even though it's not a 20, it's one about Josh Keedons. My God, what is wrong with this mouse? Because you're still over on the other screen. Ah, it's an illusion. It's an illusion. It's so funny, we just sit in your silent. I have no idea. I turned the monitors on and tested it.

Okay, so the Josh Keating cameo, what's why I love that. Okay, a lot of you guys might not be aware of this, is that there's the spectacular Spider-Man series, which, in my opinion, is an amazing show. And I kind of like, I think I prefer, nah, I don't think, I know, I prefer it over the 90s animated series. and even though it does not finish because there was this whole thing

with like Disney buying shit in it so they never finished it right? They just never actually finished a show and it sucks because it ended on such a brilliant cliffhanger I was gripped into it. I thought it was going to be one of those shows where I was going to watch like homework assignment because sometimes I have to do that here you know I think all of us have that at some point with what we're doing for like our living is that we have sometimes we have to watch shit that is like I don't really want to watch this but I kind of have to because I got to get the information.

And that was one where I just was like itching to keep watching. And then it just fucking just stopped. And I wasn't even, and the thing is no one actually prepared me for that. So I, even though I didn't watch it in real time of it airing, by the time I finished the DVDs before they hit streaming, because it was my friend Aaron Alexander, he got it for me. But then I finished the DVDs of it, I was like, oh, damn, I got to buy the next ones.

I was like, what do you mean? there's no more like i still got the feeling that everyone else got which is oh you got to be fucking kidding me like this ended like this it did not get a conclusion um and josh is the best so i would love to see him get that you got you got to hang out with him a little yeah yeah so i oh i didn't know that yeah so i know josh through yury and uh it was really funny to be in i hate you spider man he goes from both times but it was really funny to be at the premiere with Yuri and then like talking to Josh because I went across the Spider-verse. Like in my brain, I was like, these are the two voices of Spider-Man.

And they're both like those guys to so many millions of people. So the fact that he crossed over like Donald does into Electra was really funny to me. And Josh is his passion for the character is like insane. So there was a moment where it was me, Josh, Yuri, Dan Slot, Bendis, Lord Miller, Aldous Hodge, and Sam Richardson all talking about how we perceive Spider-Man. and no no but it's relevant the names are relevant the story but like it was really

I got you Coy you're good you're good I love you buddy it was interesting no Coy please don't be like John it was really cool to hear how perspectives it was really cool to hear our perspectives

of Spider-Man vary by your life experience even when you played him the way you perceive the character so unique so to have Yuri describing Spider-Man authentically and to have Josh describing authentically his version that was the

the culmination of his entire universe and they both like had time to really gesticulate how they're perceived and then to have people that love them like Sam and Aldous and all these people that have viewed them and then to have people that have written him like Benis and Dan who never played

him. All of the perspectives on Spider-Man were different but they all had these beautiful throughlines so it was one of the most amazing conversations I've ever had was why I brought it up. No, I honestly would have loved to have been a fly on that wall. I just, I don't, I know it's name dropping. It's just relevant to the, you know what? No more names the rest

of the stream. No more stories. No, I like it, Coy. Coy, your monocles show you. No. Drop the names as necessary, Coy. I am here for you. I will pay for names. John, please, take it away.

G. Colby P. Thank you for being a lovely, lovely person and joining us today. Loved Gwen's arc-hotic. I love Emma Stone, but I found. I love how I said we were going to talk about the Donald Glover can. It was not happened. Talk about the Donald Glover camera. We're not doing it now and we're not doing it at all. We thought, like, don't talk about it because we know people are going to bring it up and know it's front.

We literally opened up the thing with, like, I see it in the live chat right now. So I'm like, we just got to talk about it. All right, but John, please continue it. I love, okay, so hot take here from G. Colby P. I love Emma Stone, but I found her to be nothing more than just a bland love interest and a convenient plot device in the Tasm films. Haley Steinfeld's voice work is amazing here. very true i would definitely compare this gwen to that gwen you know i think it's an even comparison that's as hot as my toby mcquire's the worst spider-man take that is a hot take i think gwen is one

of the best parts of the amazing spider borgas i think her and andrew kind of saved that because of their chemistry is wonderful yeah i feel like she brings so much more like i think the thing you cannot argue is even if you prefer the ramy ones even if you like spider-man too I'm sorry to tell you this, quite. It's okay. Myself and probably a vast majority of the world prefer Spider-Man 2 over the Amazing Spider-Man. See my ranking, guys, Common Corner.

I do prefer the Amazing Spider-Man over Spider-Man 2002. I do prefer that. But Spider-Man 2 is my favorite of them all. I don't care what anyone says, though. You cannot, like, Emma Stone and Garfield is way better than Toby McGuire, Kirsten Dunst, like any day of the week.

I think Toby McGuire should definitely break up a very happy marriage for no reason and he should definitely make out with Gwen Stacy in front of Mary Jane before he even has the symbia because that's what Spider-Man would do. What is your deal with going after Toby? Did you lose him in a poker match or something? I'm not saying there's a movie based on his addiction to poker and rage.

But I am saying that Laura Gavira Sia in the chat says you deserve to flex and I agree you should flex those names but you should also flex those guns really quick. I mean I've been training like spider muscles. Look at that. too big for your sleeve. Working on the triceps up the thing is really hard. You have to be in a certain amount of body fat

to get there. It's not been easy. That said, I think Emma Stone added an intelligence to win that she was missing in a lot of adaptations because what I consider Gwen Stacy is one of the ultimate versions of Peter's loss, right? The character's all about loss and how you handle loss. Power and responsibility is usually misquoted is

it's not just with great power comes responsibility, it's great power must also come responsibility. It's the idea that there's an action required. So for me, one of the issues is in Spider-Man stories. Ramey, you done fucked up, Raymond. No, it's got to be a choice, right? So Spider-Man can be angry.

It makes sense. We're all fully fleshed out human beings. Anger is a natural reaction, but it's the choice to not live angry that I struggle with with Toby. There's a lot of characters that make decisions and then, like, it leads to them on a path or another. With great power, there must also come great responsibility is the actionable task of being responsible, even when it doesn't serve you, even when it's at a loss to you. Gwen Stacy represents that so much to me because to me, Mary Jane had to change as a character and evolve as a character when you lost Gwen.

Gwen was who Spider-Man was meant to be with. Gwen is his intelligent equal. Gwen was his compatriot when in school he got made fun of. Mary Jane at the time was a party girl. She was dating Harry Osborne. She was going out clubbing. But when Spider-Man lost Gwen, Mary Jane saw what that meant to the entire community and how she had to find.

a way to rally. She had to find a way to summon the strength, even though at home things were a mess. Even though at home, things weren't working up for, which is why her defense mechanism was partying. The loss of Gwen impacted every single person in the entire Spider-Man universe. And without her being as intelligent as the Emma Stone take, without her being as important, you don't have the impact of Mary Jane. So I honestly think what Gwen Stacey represents is the catalyation of not just Peter Parker, but also Mary Jane. And I think Emma Stone was one of the first people to ever find that in an authentic way that endeared us to her, not just romantically, but as our own individual character

making the entire universe better. I saw what you were doing, but I wasn't going to let me stop me. I was almost done with my rant. That's my take. Perseverance, I appreciate it, Coy. I admire your resilience always. But the thing is, you look like Spider-Man

from the Magnum P.I. universe. It's a little extra thick and a little... You apologize for that mustache. True, no, no. I had towards baby, pal. You know what? Spider cop was in this movie, and frankly, he didn't get the screen the time he deserved. He was chilling.

That's the thing is there are so many Spider-Men I noticed that I tried to make mental note of. And then, yeah. Christian Unpronounceable. What the. Oh, now you've done it. What's happening? We're going to Christian Unpronounceable YouTube channel. He doesn't have any content here.

Nope. What is going on? Delightful guy. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Cool. We're back. We're back. Oh, let me fix this.

Yes. I don't know. Would you guys just stop listening to Coy after a while? I mean, some do, I think. Coy, does every single spider person who appears in the movie have a corresponding comic book aside from the specific video game only ones? We can't get off topic, guys. We must keep the stream moving. We have a hard out at 250.

Pin that. I'm ready. Like the stream, you filthy animals. Like the stream, you filthy animals. Says Christian Unpronounceable. We love you, bud. Alrighty. Coy.

I thought the Donald Glover cameo was amazing. The Donald Glover cameo. There's a whole history with the Donald Glover cameo. I mean, Miles Morales was inspired by Donald Glover. Wasn't that the story how it goes that he was inspired by Donald Glover dressing up as Spider-Man and even making a joke about wanting to play Spider-Man? And then they created Miles via that. May I?

Yeah, sure. In 2010, there was a very, very, very. successful internet campaign one of the earliest internet campaigns to go to scale this is a very big cultural event called donald for spider man in the donald for spider man campaign there was basically a moment at the opening of community season two episode one where donald puts on a spider man shirt wakes up in bed and basically announces man i'm gonna be spider man this is this is a moment or he starts like incentivizing people to get him as spider man this is around the time they're about to cast andrew garfield so there was a high likelihood a high hope of spider man being donald lover because

he would have been perfect basically when that didn't happen brian michael Bendis, the inventor of Spider-Man, acknowledges that part of the creation of the look and the vibe and the feel of Miles Morales was based off Donald Glover. So, in this moment, Donald Glover became a canon part of Spider-Man in real life. Years go by, and Donald puts it in a lot of his raps. There's literally a lyric was, uh, you didn't want to see me as Spider-Man, so now I'm spit in Venom. Like, he's literally acknowledging that this was a thing that almost occurred.

Now, Donald Glover is one of the artists that is also known for multiverses in his work. The album, because of the internet is one of the most, uh, accurate and futuristic and prophetic pieces of metamodernist art because it is not only an album that represents Donald Glover, but it also represents Childchambeno, which is one of the elements of Donald Glover that he has invented to use his art form and the child, which is a script.

Donald Glover wrote about the experience of going through because of the internet, much like Pink Floyd's and Arc Side of the Moon. So Donald Glover being a metamorness in himself and basically being someone that blends these worlds is inherently meta to the universe of him being cast in this movie years later, making it one of my favorite cameos. Now, top of that, Donald Glover

in Spider-Man Homecoming is a character who is playing Aaron Davis. So Aaron Davis is inherently based on Donald Glover because without the character of Miles, you don't get to Aaron Davis. So when they cast him as Spider-Man Homecoming's Aaron Davis, he in fact mentions his nephew lives in that town. He wants to keep him safe. He talks about climbers, but we never had the opportunity to have him evolve into the prowler. So Donald is now playing his own uncle, but a couple of years earlier, he voiced Miles Morales. So we got to actually self-actualize the version of himself that got to play Miles Morales in the first ultimate Spider-Man game.

So now we have Donald Glover basically playing his own uncle, a version of Miles Morales in the multiverse, a version of him that is referenced in Into the Spider-Verse because the scene of Donald for Spider-Man is actually what Aaron Davis is watching and into the Spider-Verse. So Aaron Davis in the Canada of Into the Spider-Verse, acknowledges the Aaron Davis of our universe being Miles Morales while also having all those things to go forward. And then at the end of all this in this movie, we have him finally evolve into being fully the prowler in the prowler get-up that he was supposed to land in in the first Spider-Man homecoming, acknowledging the metal.

of modernism of this entire universe in one beautiful cameo. Donald for Spider-Man, 12 years in the making, perfect cinema. Nicely done. There was a few other elements, but I left some out. I'm going to make a TikTok about it, but that is the short version.

12 years in the making. 12 years in the making. It deserves the standing oh, my boy. If I wasn't going to put my crotch right in the camera, I would stand for you. And there's more. That's the highlight. That was magic.

I didn't know half that stuff. Donald for Spider-Man means so much to me. And I'm so happy for Donald Glover. It makes me so happy. There's also little details like John Francis Daly, who wrote Spider-Man Homecoming, is also someone that works with Lord and Miller on the spaghetti, Cloudy, this champs of meatballs.

And they're the two metamodernists that work most closely with Donald Glover. So even the inherent end joke that we get, there's more inside joke that they get. It's beautiful. Dude, he should release a follow-up album called Because the Spider-Verse. Next Super Chat. Chloe I thought that was

brilliant guys good that was good that was all of us working together that was solid gold that was good info

good physical comedy good good editing comedy yeah all the above yeah we're not wrong you're not

dude Chloe on estrogen thank you for being here hope your hormones are doing well I love the trans flag above Gwen's door and you know what Gwen's universe

and a lot of her just whole room has the pink and blue color palette, you know, that you know, pepper's the whole thing. That's what cracks me up when people are like this is my, you know, I love shitting on people who like

get mad at woke culture all the time because half the time it's not the real thing, right? This movie is so woke. Like, it's Spider-Focus. Spider-Puck's the worst guy. He's the bocest mother ever. That's such great use of those vibes Yeah, 100%.

And people Like, I've seen the same people being like, this is what happens when you don't make a woke. I'm like, I'm glad you like the movie. This is what happens. But this is some pretty woke shit. When it's woke without being forced to be woke.

I'm like, it's pretty fucking woke. This is what happens when it's not bored room. And I'm not mad at the movie. I don't mind. I'm not crossing my. I think it's funny. And then even like the, like, I saw the trans flag. I did see the trans flag.

And the protect. Protect trans kids. Yeah, on the first viewing I caught it. It was like a split second. I was like, I wonder how many people are going to yell at the screen over that. Even though he's like, it's a blink and you'll miss it moment. But, you know, there's people who will not miss it and be like, I was looking for it.

But yeah, I'm like, there's so many, like, even Gwen's world, I think isn't the dad where like something about trans lives, too, Captain Stacey. I believe he does have something like that as well. You got the BOM sign too. Yeah, and the bisexual lighting of her whole universe. Yes, that's what I'm thinking. yeah yeah that whole scene is like so guys it's it's like like while spider punk is very much used like jake say to chat for a comedic effect it just it just makes me personally laugh when these people who

constantly scream are like it's not i'm like the fact this is one of the wokenest comic book movies i've seen in a while and also shows like 96% rotten tomato score on the people side shows that all of these people that complain about shit don't realize what that word fucking means like it makes me so happy to be like, yeah, those same people that get mad at stuff are like, that movie's great though, it's doing progress in real time that you just missed. It's so funny. I used to love the

word woke and now it's so agonizing to deal with because it just calls, like the thing is, yeah, it's the movie is pretty woke, I would say, just in that it's pretty tolerant and representative, you know, like. Well, yeah, I think which is what progressive is. The word woke used to

be for black people. Now it's taking on this whole originally it was been hijacked like much of black culture yeah like woke was about being aware of things in certain areas and being aware of certain people and now it's literally a a mad lib for anything you want to be mad at if you're on the other side it's just like this movie

has like every regard everything that people have yelled about I'm like it's so in this movie and it just cracks me up that I'm like oh they can't see it it's so fascinating that progress I fully expected it to be I give it a week.

It'll turn. What was the... This is it funny. Yeah. Pedro Sanchez. Thank you, Pedro. It was nice seeing all the little nods to Rio and Miles Bean. Puerto Rican in this movie.

From the snap to the dialogue. Makes one happy to be from Puerto Rico. One, and what's that line he says about, like, oh, I don't know, it sounds like he's Dominican to me. Like, I got a big laugh in the theater. It's true. With the people's. Being woke is not the entire movie. It's not.

There is 99% of the things that they yell about. That's what I'm getting at. Is it an acceptance and quality and taking care of others pretty woke? Isn't that pretty woke? I have to say, like, no. Of what it is today. The movies, they yell at it, it's not. Valenti, I am with you.

Like, I actually, I love the word and what its intent is. And I, yeah, I just hate the way, you know, the people who are anti have hijacked it and taken all the joy out of it. Yeah, I agree. I love it. That's exactly the end. issue. And you're goddamn right. You should protect trans kids. Absolutely. Yeah. And if you don't believe that,

then leave a super chat and then unsubscribe. Yes. Hey, you can yell at us on your way out. Have yourself a nice little journey. Leave a super chat. Leave a super chat to let us know how much you hate our point and we'll read it. And then you can leave. And the bigger and the super chat, the longer time will dedicate

to the win-win. That's true. We'll be happy. The gamer M.J. I don't think Gonkey was playing Spider-Man. for yeah you idiot i wasn't aware he had an advanced copy all right sorry ps5 i think it was the new ps5 game because there's only ps5 that makes more sense in earth 1610 actually they're up to ps 7 god damn it he's still playing a retro game i don't feel like this movie is too complex to answer a question really quick in the chat for kids i mean i feel like it sure it might be but i feel like kids brains work off ticot now so i feel like their brains have been designed now to keep

up with a film like this a 14 year old made part of it Gabe de casso um he's Thank you again, Gabe. Hey. Just for you, Gabe. I mean, yeah, cumulatively, it works. Spring. I'm playing. I didn't know.

I didn't know. Also, I love the album. Metro booming did great, but nothing can top sunflower, in my opinion. Love you guys. We love you. Thwip, thwip your face. That is not a sexual thing. We're moving on now.

Thank you. I love this new album very much. I don't know which is my favorite because it's too new and like there's something about like digesting music. Love them both. Metro boom and killing it though. Jonah Ock. Thank you Jonah.

Go, I read it. Jonah Ock. Sony could use the excuse that King Ben's Clatter sent MCU vulture to Morbius instead of Stranger Spell. I was waiting for someone to bring this up. This fixes Morbius, y'all. Something to do with Spider-Man. Literally use the same villain that way.

The end of Morbius, the post-credit scene of him suddenly being in the universe, ties it into the live-action universe, ties it into Morbius, not knowing why, ties into a lot of the elements of certain cameos, not being in Morbius, but allowing certain multiversal collisions without it being an incursion of it. This not only solves Morbius, but it solves some of the elements that were plot holes in the venom tie-in

at the end of No Way home. This movie literally every single issue, people are complaining about Sony, like I said with the MCU, look at the macro, wait for the things to come together. I guarantee you, much like the King Dynasty, all of the issues where people think things are in and out of continuity, Sony is solving the problems with this movie, and by the time we get beyond the universe and Madam Webb, it is all

going to be spelled out, and it's going to be all accurate because they have a 10-year plan that I'm very excited about. So it just, it's more Corbius is the best movie in the can. Morbius is amazing. That was a good Easter egg. Brock's Venomint gum. I like that.

Yeah, it was clever. I was here for that. Ryan Greene. Thank you. You know why Koi's suddenly cooking so fast? Why? G fuel. G fuel, baby.

You know why, too? Because my can's almost empty. I wanted to savor this because you often have a G-Fee. It's a rarer occasion where I am in the studio having a-fueled up. A kindness of Greg's heart G-Fuel. So, like, I'm like, ooh. The G and G fuel is actually great. It's always a treat for me.

Greg Fu. This is coffee. This is G Fuel. This is my third coffee. And this is water. But you are drinking so many diuretics. That's why you have to pee all the time. I want to get a discount off GFuel.

There's a link in the description box. Ooh. Yeah. Next time Coy starts to spit, I'm going to, I'll do a beat. Yay. Ryan Green. Thank you for contributing and giving us something to talk about and for your good vibes. Love the movie.

but my main gripe with this movie is the appearance between live action and animated characters I got a bone to pick well animated ah wise guy will animated characters stay animated when they cross over

to the other stuff like the MCU I feel like this movie suggests that they would stay animated simply because I mean you got a live action Donald Glover the vulture comes through as parchment The Venom World is live action and clearly like with Vulture

it is communicated through dialogue like you bring the trappings of your universe with you she's like you're made of paper parchment why don't play with fire you know yeah so i i would beg some kind of alternate explanation if they want to start medium hopping i just don't think it would work if you're watching a like if you're watching spider man four and then animated miles comes into there i don't think that will work i fucks heavy with who frame roger rabbit man it's gonna be great i think it's gonna be i think it's gonna work i honestly i think it was really smart to like spoon feed us a little bit because they had spot who is arguably the most translatable character to live action,

it pop, be the one that pops in, because if you think about the way we perceive color, some of the discrepancy of seeing animated in a live action as the Uncanny Valley is broken, right? Because there's certain color elements and there's certain elements of the eyes that reshape how you perceive something. So if you've got the gas station attendant,

being the one that first has the animated world break in, Spot literally doesn't have eyes, the way his colors are shaped, none of that works. And when you look at animation, like, cheaper animation, you can always see, like, if I'm going to pick this up in animation, There's a certain outline around it that is going to be different. So you get a character who's literally power is a portal. And if the portal is the thing that you come through,

that allows the portal to separate our eyes from expecting anything to look photorealistic. And therefore, you can have an animated character in a live action world. G-fuel. Chi-fuel. G-fuel made it. Another one. Hey, Galaxy Geeks. What's up?

Good to see them. Go check out their channel. They got great reactions. Who could play Miles in Live Action? I think Shameek Moore can pull it off. You guys don't know. I love this. It's super chat.

Can't wait. I think Shemke Moore can pull it off, in my opinion. No one knows who, because it's like the cloud. How does it work? What is it? I think Shomori Moore can pull it on my life. A white man can explain it pretty simply. We could play Miles in live action.

I think Shemke Moore can pull it off my P.N. Thoughts, love you all. I think that would be pretty sweet if Shemke Moore and that if they did just go, fuck it. Yeah. Who'd be him? I would love a Council of Reed situation where there's multiple miles. I don't think the carry on. Council of Miles.

Council of Miles. But I don't necessarily think a 27-year-old should start the journey of Miles. If they're going to do a live-action trilogy or more, which Miles deserves. I don't know if starting with Shamee. is the move. So I think there should be a moment where we maybe meet a multiverse of Miles, and we see that he's not an anomaly. I think the closure of Beyond the Spider-Verse would be really beautiful if you find out that Miguel is wrong because he's angry and that Miles is always deserving and Miles is supposed to be this thing and that he self-actualizes. And there is an

element of like, no, Miles is Spider-Man because he is. Anyone who can wear the mask would be a full circle moment because he deserves it. So I'd love if Miguel is wrong and there are more Miles and I'd love if Shameek gets to play him in brief, but I don't know if he should be the long ongoing because then like you need a 10 years older Peter Parker or more. So I just, I think it puts us in a tricky position age wise, but I would love to see it. What about Caleb McLaughlin?

I think Caleb Lockland is a very talented actor that is way more multifested that people see, but there's a Latino element to the character that is really important that I don't know. It's going to be a hard cast because those are two halves that are both vital to the character. So finding someone that is those things.

I think it's easy from the outside to, yeah, to see Miles Morales and go, Black Spider-Man, but yeah, I think You're absolutely right. It needs the multicultural aspect seems intrinsic. What about Denzel Washington? I mean, that's the answer. Or Samuel O. Jackson. That's the answer.

Guys, with makeup, you can make Denzel 15. Let's just jump in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. King Kong, I got nothing on Miles Morales. Oh, I've never seen training there. What? Whoa. Why is it not on the list?

Yeah, that is the top now. Huh? I think it's on the list. If it's not, it's in another. We've talked about it so much. an other one of my lists. God, stop calling it

equilibrium. Equalizer. Off camera, he's called it equilibrium so many times. This is your ready or not. I can't get the

movie tied. That's the one time I've not called it hide and seek, so that's yours. Matthew Kilburn, a.k.a. Mr.

Macamoto? I'm going to go with that. That's a 20. God damn. Super chat. I waited that time. Good thing I know sign language. My ears.

Ha ha. Oh, we just got to our first spectacular drop. Oh, I'm so funny. That was when I was at full volume. Thank you for the super chat, my friend. Thank you so much. That's so funny. Pizza Boy, 153.

A coy read it. Coy. Always love hearing your thoughts. Do you think that Deadpool 3 being a multiverse story and his relationship is Spider-Man that we get a cameo in part three? certainly hope so i think they should put Deadpool in the animated movie and like give Ryan Reynolds a cameo i think it's going to

happen do you know what that would also do tie into Donald Glover who was supposed to make an animated Deadpool movie that was canceled during the merger of everything coming together that would add another level of metamonorones and that would allow donald lover be another facet of the world that allows us to reference the fact that Donald Glover is the reason we have this cascading event of

pop culture look it's like the audio from the movie talk drums talk and you can't hear you can't hear you can't hear him. What's going on? Why can't I hear the dialogue? I do think Spider-Man being in Deadpool 3 is more

likely now because of this, and I also think that the culmination of phase 5 and 6 of Marvel, this impacts. This is a big shift, and Deadpool 3 is going to be the, I think Deadpool 3 is going to be the live-action version of this, where it's going to be cleaning up timelines, it's going to be them going like, canon events. Like, I think

Deadpool 3 and this are going to mirror each other more than you expect. Deadpool 3 is going to be another installment in the, this is what multiverse of madness should have been his franchise and i can't wait all right john look lucas see you're right i'm gonna read this super chat i'm gonna you're gonna be the one to answer oh cool okay all right happy saturday handsome boys from kiana chenel uh spider man was pure joy the animation styles the story the cameos everything was perfect for me spider punk was easily my favorite john please i want you to talk about your opinions on spider punk and also about the ultimate conclusion that happens when he does

help Miles in breaking out. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Way too woke. All right, he should have gone along with the authority that Miguel O'Hara was laying down without question. It's anti-government. Yeah, Batman's fascist.

I adored Spider-Punk for multiple reasons. I mean, just the animation style they brought along with him. I love Daniel Kaluya anyway, and I thought his attitude and his just abandoned in the booth. The voice performance was beautiful. I was hanging on every line and I do love the sort of I love that the joke of his character is true

to his character and follows through in crucial moments so yeah when you you got the palms thing which is a great little learning moment it's a great moment to endear you to him but then is that debate is going down I thought that was an awesome character choice because of course this guy would do that this guy would be like this whole organization's getting a little messed up and I'm not about authoritarian organizations so yeah I'm going to help you escape I had a question about how he drops his watch through the portal before he goes so I guess he must have made like

a like a makeshift jury rigged one but yeah I love the function that he served and he's probably my favorite character I really like the animation of him too because there was such a variety to him and he even there's even something about the way to animate him that

feels like he's going against the grain of all the other Spider-Man that are so handmade it's so pastiche yeah like it's just not as smooth as everyone else And I think that's a really smart choice. Yeah, I love the attention to detail. Yeah, and it's like even his resting shapes and outlines change. Yeah.

Jay Colby P. Thank you so much. This movie in Guardians 3 show that superhero fatigue is a myth. Just wait until the Flash and everyone's sick of it. Yeah. I mean, I think there are... People just want great movies to tell a compelling story. That is true.

I think the saving grace for Flash really quick. Because a lot of us were talking about it because it's so obvious when you see, see, you know, Spider-Verse, and you're seeing what the Flash is all about, that you're like, two multiverse movies in the same month, one from the Marvel camp and the other one from the DC camp, and you feel like you're probably going to end up comparing them to some extent, and Spider-Verse, you kind of walk out going honestly how you could top it. Yeah. Difference, though, that'll allow for viewing experience.

It'll feel different ultimately, and one's a DC movie and a live-action movie, but there is that part of me that's like, I'm wondering if the Flash is sort of wishing that it came out before this movie. I've been thinking that a lot. Because I have, we are the only ones who have not seen the flash. Everyone else has seen the flash.

Twice, three times, four times. Yeah, I've been hunting to try to get into, I've said so many emails and, yeah, we're the only ones who have not been able

to see it. Everyone else we don't see it. Expect a late reaction. Maybe Saturday. Well, and two hearing about these two movies, everyone's, we've got to react to your video,

George, sorry. People's been gushing over Spiderverse and then I've heard, you know, there's always that, you know, like, oh,

the Flash is amazing. But I have heard people say, like, it's not like the best. It's really good, though. So I do feel like there may be that drop. Also, just wanted to shout out Shane Rose. Was Metra Booman's voice cameo, the Spider-Man, who's like upside down in the black and white? Who's like, there's nowhere for you to go. And then he's like, oh, I guess there was.

Yeah, that's Metro Boobo, which I loved as a cameo? That's so cool. I didn't realize. The second time I saw it, I was like, which design is this? And who is that voice? Because I bet it's a cameo, yeah. All right, guys. Due to the time, I'm going to start making sure we stick a little.

We're going to be a little bit more pedantic with our timing here. Okay. Did you Google chesticulate because I used it? Yep. All right. So here we go. J-0-3-J-3R-K is off. Joe Jerkoff.

No? Yeah. No one would say that. Don't, Joe. Spot had a great origin, but I kind of wish his motives weren't. I'm Mr. Evil Man and wants to rule the multiverse. because we're intertwined miles why not I didn't think he had that

motivation I thought yeah he's a little deeper than that the trolley problem he was also really fucking scorn too I mean the guy's had a like a tear I love that they lean so much into he's lost so much especially by what he has morphed into like physically like he loses

he loses touch his whole body's like bodyed figure it's a body horror tale with him yeah you know it's an inverted version of what miles is going through too because he's like he doesn't belong anywhere and is you know sort of being discarded and overlooked in all sorts of other things and his going against all the canon rules in spite of that he's also got such an isolated life because he's from like a future timeline when things went wrong so i i didn't feel like he was mr evil at all

i thought it was a very justified reason to feel that way joseph taylor thank you coy read it what possible conclusion would ruin the third film uh i mean i think if they made it a very linear tale that sacrificed all the nuance of, like the first movie is basically telling the story of quantum theory and making it digestible. The second is telling the story of what canon is and making that digestible. If the third film

is just a wrap-up instead of introducing new ideas or not introducing new characters and all those things, that would feel like I got short change, but short of that, I'm not worried about the third film. I'm not worried about it at all. I think it's going to be amazing. We're going to cry in the theaters. A lot.

I was kind of like the multiverse hasn't really been exciting as much as we all hope within the MCU but that's one movie just like completely changes the game the MCU has simply been here to push all the other multiverse movies along everything Spider-Man all at once was the perfect answer to that

and I also think that we are looking at things too small because it's a big multiverse saga so this just helps people have faith again Joseph Taylor John please Joseph Taylor. Oh, I read that, my bad.

Azealia. Azealia. I saw this. Thank you, by the way, for being here, in 4DX, and it was the perfect experience. I believe that would be maybe overwhelming, but also quite fun. I feel like this would be a fun 40X. I would be totally down to see this in 40X. I got tickets to see it.

I got tickets for Oppenheimer like two weeks after its release, just to go against Tom Cruise. and I've got it's all fucking sold out it's so it's so sold out I'm like jeez I'm on the last day and it's like it's an R-rated movie selling that hard

it's crazy and I I would that is a fascinating topic over the I could totally fathom Tom Cruise being upset he's like it's a fucking cliff

for the motor like the things I've done for you the things I've sacrificed this is his hateful aid oh totally yeah no and he has been I mean, from the director's side, Nolan has been such a champion of a proprietor of IMAX influence within just modern cinema.

Yeah. And Tom Cruise has been the star making vehicle on that side. Yeah. So it is interesting to see them at odds with their films because, yeah, I mean, like, Nolan is director. Tom Cruise is the star. They're both IMAX lovers. I bet Tom Cruise, wish you hadn't seen Tenet in the lockdown now. Millie's Stanifor says Oppenheimer in 40 and you literally get nuked.

It's a bunch of flames It's just a bunch of charred skeletons at the end of the show Jay Colby Pay One more thing and funny thought I had, Greg I know you're already to be pet Throughout the movie I was I'm thinking about their song parallel universe

Off of Californication Fitting the movie Oh my God Released the key to show We already got Can't Stop in Black Panther Wakanda forever I would absolutely love it if we did get parallel universe in there or under the bridge

and it doesn't fit it all it's just because Miles is walking under a bridge Oh my God Gito Galindo Everyone be quiet Everyone be quiet

Coy that means you For us it's a moment of silence That doesn't generate any of the energy Because we can't hear it Yeah it's just peace So weird Watched it last night You

Watched last night At Regal in QNS Not sure where that is But I'm excited Sound was bad Didn't matter I love it Watching it again

Animation was perfection Is this setting the bar too high For Spider-Man live actions Love you guys Thank you for everything No it's setting the bar too high For whatever the animated shows are gonna be Yeah I mean it's set the bars high boy

I feel like No Way Home gets a lot of crap Because it uses characters In a live action setting That people consider nostalgia If you actually look at the writing of No Way Home It has so much going on. So I feel like the live action bar is like high because of no way home. But that's my experience in these films.

They're very different. But is Miles a California king? Sorry, I was listening. I look at them differently. Also, Q&S is Queens. So, yeah, you were freaking queens for this. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, that makes me happy.

Beautiful. Beautiful, Gito. John, please take it away. Amanda, we love you. Thank you for being here. A real rejects. Much love for. For y'all, Spider-Punk was great, and exactly how I want Anarchist Spider-Man to be.

Loved the Donald Glover-Prowler cameo. There we go. And want to see more Prouler and Miles. Prouler Miles, I should say. He was intense. He was, dude. The brains. So, John, what do you think the lesson will be for Miles from encountering Prouler Miles?

What do you think the, there's one thing that I love about these films, there's always, they lean into the themes to advance their plot. So what do you think the character journey of our Miles encountering this Miles is ultimately going to lead to? That's an excellent question. And I am, honestly, I've been wondering about this because... Look at his brain moving. That's why I looked at John first. I've been wondering about this because there's so much about Miles' journey that, you know, just kind of happened to him that wasn't about his choice in the matter necessarily. I mean, certainly he's inserting himself in what Miguel says about, like, you know, so much of this is your fault.

Like, I get that. At the same time, you know, obviously there's going to be some kind of, you know, this is what could have happened. You know, this is, I guess it's like the bigger version of, yeah, it's personifying that fault. It's like, you know, in order for you to have this spectacular life, you know, a different version of you suffers greatly and that's speaking to the balance of, I guess, the universe, the multiverse, etc. But I feel like Koi would probably have a deeper insight, comics related. I do feel like the use of the cameo also ties into the idea that basically if you things go wrong, things go bad. And the fact that they didn't cast Donald Glover as Spider-Man and him turning into the prowler is kind of a beautiful metaphor of like, well, he didn't make me Spider-Man, and I'm a bad guy. So I love the idea that the movie's ending reflects that. So when he doesn't become Spider-Man, he becomes the prowler, which ties into foreshadowing using Donald Glover as the live-action cameo in the first place. So I do think there's going to be a commentary on basically if you don't have a mentor figure in your life to guys, you. If you don't have your uncle Ben death, if you don't have your uncle Aaron death, if you don't have that canon event, it shows how things can go bad. So right now in our universe, Miles is fighting for the idea that I have to save everyone. This is, again, the trolley problem. If I don't save everyone, this is going to help. This is going to be a net positive. But if I do save everyone, then this is going to be great for me, which is almost a selfish concept. So I think what the third movie's metaphor is going to be is basically, yes, there are sacrifices to be Spider-Man. With great power, there must also come great responsibility. The action. of loss is what drives you to be a better

person. So when you don't lose the person, if you don't actually go through the way things are meant to be, things can go bad. I don't believe in destiny. I don't believe in fate, but there are actions that have consequences. So much like the Donald Glover cameo in real life reflecting, he didn't become Spider-Man, so he became the prowler. I think

in the universe, Miles has to learn that yes, there must be lost to achieve greatness. Absolute vodka. And the idea that, yeah, like so I don't think he saves I think people have to die sure sure

I'm not focused on what I'm doing here totally pay attention to you Dragon Soldier thank you Dragon Soldier Storage Wars Yeah it's funny So it's just me Or during the train fight with Miles versus Miguel

Looked like they were glitching into live action actors With every fifth frame That is a very specific catch That's a very I mean it might have just been the uncanniness of the fact that they're of their humanistic qualities but they're animated. I thought

that fight was so wildly intense. What's great, what was surprising to me was how much the trade, especially when I was editing the review, like damn, you know the trailer really did show you like kind of a lot. Yet when you watch the movie, I'm like, but this movie's still full of somebody's a press. Like from

beginning to end, it really is. But the trailer does essentially show you the plot mechanics of eventually leading to that in the showdown with the Miguel O'Hara and then being at odds, but there's a lot of details they leave out in the trailers of what leads you to these events. But I thought

those sequences were breathtaking. There was nothing more thrilling to me than Miles having to outsmart and having to escape from a shit ton of spider people. There was nothing more excited to me than that. We've plain and simple just haven't seen any Spider-Man

movies of him have other than you know, Spider-Man versus Betam and Spider-Man 3. Brilliant film, by the way. And exactly the feeling that is generated here or gesticulated here. But that was such a beautiful sequence. And to me, heart pounding. I was on the edge of my seat.

Even though I knew the scene was coming specifically with him and Miguel having a showdown, but my brain didn't prepare me for a fuck, he's going to have to like, fucking maneuver his way through all of the other. Yeah. That was beautiful. I love that it paralleled the first film

in that the first film had a train going like laterally right we never really saw it ascend it was a train that was moving as trains do it was a train that was going through the x and y axis of reality it was a train this way but I love that in this one it allowed the z axis to be implied because the train was ascending so I pictured it as

the first films about the multiverse in a contained area but this film is about like stacking the multiverse so things are happening simultaneously because 299 would allow the timeline to be at all times right like the everything everywhere at once so 299 is happening parallel to 2000 and two, Spider-Man, happening parallel to 2010, Spider-Man with Garfield and Toby stacked.

So I love that the train metaphor in the first film is doubled down on this one by having the train go vertically through the Z-axis in its own way. True, true. Okay, we talked about this at the very, very beginning of this stream. But, John, why don't you answer that? What was your reaction? Sidra Zedi is asking, thank you so much, what was your reaction to find out that Miles wasn't supposed to be Spider-Man? Yeah, I mean, that hits, I think, hard, especially when Miguel just lays it out and you're like, oh, yeah, I can see how this domino has really affected a lot of things. And you could argue like, yeah, it's happenstance.

It's not your fault. But at the same time, it is like, you were in like a really bad place at the right time, I guess, you know, because of all this. And it is like a conflicting thing. And it makes me excited to see how they unpack that with the whole Miles Prouler thing because, I mean, yeah, there is like a compliment. that but there is also so much that is just sort of like random and if they hadn't been at the collider and all that stuff that he lays out like I thought it was a really beautiful way to

use the first movie in a way that it's one of those things I think it's always good when you're sitting there watching the sequel and you're going to they it was this like the plan from the start because like this tracks and grows out of that so well and yeah I think it it really gave

me this feeling like of Miles is kind of alone amidst all these spider people you know and I think that's a very unique thing to be able to communicate because there's always something that others a spider man and especially with the way gwen and peter b parker look upon him this it's almost like there's a pitiful look that they give him that he does not want you know yeah it's like it's like they know he's got a terminal illness and they don't know how to deal with it or something yeah yeah uh diego gavera thank you so much uh thoughts on gwen being trans with symbolism of acceptance

of her spider persona and her dad plus the colors of her world and flag easter eggs well we have talked about it and I think it's used nicely. I don't feel like that someone I think someone was just saying into the chat I'm processing a lot of information right now but that I think

people ultimately don't actually even the ones who like fucking bitch about woke culture all the time like just I'm not saying they're bitching about actual world culture I'm saying what what they just like the you know the keywords virtue signaling identity politics low culture

I think at the end of the day, we actually don't have a, a lot of people don't have an issue with that. I think what they have an issue with is if they feel like it's in some way being like disingenuous, being forced into their way. When a lot of times I don't feel like it is personally, it's sometimes something that comes front and center. But I think sometimes there's subtle things like that where you could totally miss it even, but it's still there. And that's what we were trying to talk about earlier was that a lot of times when it's being described of what people are mad at. about we're in the camp of going you guys get what i'm trying to say with this i want to make sure yeah i i understand what you're saying yeah what i'm trying to say is that what they get mad about because i've seen i've been seeing it's been going on with the chat this entire time we've

been talking since we've brought it up what we get annoyed at is the fact that no the same kind of context is still here and we're not trying to say it just doesn't feel heavy-handed we're not yeah it doesn't not feel heavy-handed it's actually done really well but it's still it's still so much laced throughout the film. And to say that those things are not in this movie would be false. They're totally in this

movie. And I think it's really cool how it's a little bit more overt than a lot of the things, a lot of the properties that people actually get upset at. It's way more overt. They literally have like BLN, Protect Trans Lives, yet people are still so on board with this movie.

I think it's because it feels real like you're saying. It feels like what are world is. Like, I think that when you see a certain movie and you change everything, it feels like a lot. When it's like, uh, actually Taika Batiti just had a quote about this where it's like, I never had a group of friends that was one of each cult. If there's seven people and like there's literally a token of each culture, like a like a captain planet, that can feel heavy handed. But like, if you've got like seven Polynesian kids and a Polynesian story, that feels beautifully representative. So I think like our world is, I don't know that the character is trans,

but her support. I don't think she's trans. Right. So I just want to clarify that. But I would argue like, I support trans kids. I support trans lives. I support trans people. I'm not trans, but I love that that is something that her and her dad support vocally. So it feels more real than it being like,

hey, we got to discuss this. It's just a part of her bedroom. It's a part of his wardrobe. And that feels more natural to me. And I think that's why people aren't up in arms because that's our world. You should support people. You should support progress.

You should support everyone and care about everyone. So the lighting is beautiful. The elements of it are beautiful because it feels like our reality where loving someone is how it should be, not something that should be noticed. What's funny to me, though, is, remember the Blue Beetle thing where George Lopez's line,

the character, we don't know who the hell he is. Like, we don't know who that character. What's his name? Like, tell me everything about that character. Yeah, you don't really know that most people don't know who this person, these characters. And he has one line in there about Batman's a fashion. through a certain gap of people assume that is the whole movie's point of view and then there's so and it's

obviously some like stupid joke the the the the the then you got spider punk in here who has a lot of these lines and yet no one's upset about it I don't think saying people should be upset I just find the the uh I find humor in the fact that no one's upset well yeah because it's just part of the character and that really reads it's not a character just it's not a message disguised as a character So I wonder what if those lines were in the trailer? How that would? Well, the trans slide was in the trailer. I didn't miss it.

I didn't catch that. Oh, yeah, I saw it in the first trailer because I was very like, oh, they put this in this to show people where they stand. And I like that. To the chat. It doesn't really matter if Gwen is trans or not. That's right. Yeah, we're saying we haven't been told it, but it doesn't matter. It seems as if she's not or she, I don't know, she could be non-barry, where.

But it doesn't really matter if she is or isn't. Just like in our universe. Yeah. That's what I've said. Clearly, she's down for the cause. She's in a punk band. Yeah. Come on.

Yeah. Yeah. Not to stereotype all pun. I'm sure there are some intolerant punks out there. Yeah, you know, because it's, it is funny to me what has happened with the word, what has happened with the idea of what woke culture is when really it's lost sight of what its original meaning was. And it's become a bunch of things that other people have labeled it as now. And a negative connotation. This is just opening your eyes.

to the systematic injustices of the world and being aware of how to move despite them. It's about white woman. It is. No, white women have done all of the legwork. It's about, it's about female leads in movies. That's right. And making every white character black or Asian.

Diego, we got you. It's not the main takeaway of the movie. Not at all. But it's becoming a topic of conversation. It's all I think about now. It's so funny about it, is it becoming a topic of conversation. I love it. I love it. Hey, conversations are good.

I personally, it's Tigerol thought it was better than the first movie, but that's insane because the first one was like a 9-8, it's like a 9-9. They're both insane. See, Blaine-Disi's bringing up a good point where I actually feel like Spot could have a change of heart. Sure. Oh, that'd be cool. Like, he becomes so zen. It seems like they're setting him up for being like the most ultimate villain, which, which, yeah, there's a very big likelihood that that could happen. And at the same time, I could see it going down to, like, an auto-octator or the many Spider-Man.

Yeah, those villains that were formed. Yeah, I could completely see. Because, like, who the hell is going to stop him? Right. Like, how do you stop this guy? And only Spock can stop himself, you know? Yeah. And what if he's an element that helps them navigate the web of life?

Like, it'd be so cool if, like, his interdimensional therapy become a positive? He becomes, yeah, like, a crucial part of keeping all the continuity is intact. Yeah, exactly. Which would be cool? It's right there. All right. Great, great, I like, big respect to the spot. Great character.

Yeah, really impressed by that villain. And good job for Jason Schwartzman doing the voice. Yeah. Liked his vibe. Nicholas Cage's cousin, Spider-Man Noir's cousin's spot, which is funny because they're black and white. I was so sad when they said he wouldn't be back for Spider-Noir, and yet, you know, they made me happy by the end. It was good. I mean, maybe it's a different voice.

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That's kind You beautiful Beautiful, beautiful woman. Thanks for letting us spoil the movie for you. I hope you listened to the whole thing. Yes, front of bed. Thank you, no, Chanel. Luna.

Luna. Hi, y'all. You all look beautiful. Stop it. You look beautiful. You look amazing. Stop it. Did y'all like this soundtrack more than the last?

I need to revisit. I don't know. I certainly kind of... I messed this up. Hold on a second, John. John, please. now it's perfect this did more than the last

uh this this one like it grabbed me the soundtrack not to say that like it did might not have the first time but i haven't had as much of like a i associate sunflower with the first movie whereas this one i kind of felt the whole soundscape so i'm kind of lean into this one but it might just be recently biased terrific either way yeah also just in the vein of this. Go listen to the Attack the Block soundtrack that Basement Jacks did. Also, the score for this by Daniel Pemberton is like incredible. Oh,

sure. Absolutely. Respect to the Pemb. All right, here we go. Where are we at? We're at Dust. Hey, first time donating to anyone. And I'm sorry I'm not doing a lot. It's okay.

Then we're moving on. That's a dollar's worth of a read. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Anyways, did you guys see that apparently it took three years for them to develop the art style of Spider-punk? I think it took four for the original art style. Correct me if any of this is incorrect. I mean, I would certainly believe it, and I would love to see more behind the scenes. You assume everything in the movie like this is created on a computer, however you do have like a... I could tell the first time we saw it. Like the Lego, this is not CG Legos. These are real Legos.

So I would be very curious if there was any actual collage or pastiche going into it. How did this movie only cost $100 million? I don't understand. Because how do other movies cost $200 million and this one costs $100? Like animated movies. It's wild. It is staggering. It's mind-blowing.

The fact that it's going to make all of its money back opening weekend and then just go on to profit. I'm so happy. It's probably because they don't use super expensive voiceover actors. Yeah, but even the visuals. Like, neither does Pixar? And Pixar movies cost like $200 million. It is interesting. And I mean, I wonder.

And I love Pixar. It's the kind of animation that really makes me wonder because they do leave. I love that the look of the spot, you can literally see the circles, like the guidelines and the early parts of animation. So there are aspects of the animation style that look like unfinished or hand drawn, and yet I sit there going,

does that take less time or does that take deceptively more time? I think it would take more time to accurately do it. So I am a little mind-blown, yeah, because the art style is so many things and is, like, every frame looks like it must take so much time and care. They also hired in talking to... Philip Lord, they hired comic book artists as consultants.

So the art that you love from the comics, or I love from the comics, if you read comics, they brought them on to help the animators draw in their style. That is something unique to this movie and also cannot be cheap. Yep, yep. Cannot cheap. All good. All good. The Wombler.

Do you guys think the inheritors are going to come into play in the anime and universe, or do you think they might save it for the live action movies? I think that's for me. I think the inheritors and Morlin and characters like that are going to to stay unique to the comic books. I don't think they're going to be live action or here. I think the inheritors are more beneficial for the medium of comics because they're almost like vampiric. They feed off the life force and things. And there's a lot of things they haven't introduced yet that I don't think they will. The idea of a spider totem, the idea of a lot of the

animal elements in the comic books, Peter Parker, Spider-Man is attached to this thing called the spider totem. And that's why he fights a lot of animal-based villains like rhino, vulture, all those elements. They haven't introduced anything akin to that here. And I don't think they necessarily will. So the idea of the inheritors taking the life force of these animal totems doesn't really tie in. That'd be a lot to really tie into a third film. So I don't see a live action Spider-Verse working. I don't really see an inherited totem element working, but that's the beauty of this

Canada event. All these universes are unique to themselves, so it all still works in that medium. True. True. Boogie. I agree. I'm definitely distracted about what's going on the chat. What's happening with the fact that the, you know. Are we still on bigotry? The woke wars. Oh, the war is waging.

Yeah. We're going to solve it today. No, no, I'm doing what you're doing. I'm just fucking, fucking, fucking. I'm just thinking. Fucking, fucking, fucking. Respond to every single one. Not busy. There's a reason you're not banned, dude.

You're good. You're good, busy. Oh, yeah, busy's great. Yeah. Busy Brown downtown. It's just, your name's busy. And I saw a chance to say busy, busy, busy. Busy Brown.

Because comics. It worked there, man. Absolutely. Busy, busy. Fight, fight, fight. Unless you become a total ass. The white man speaks gibberish is my favorite comment. We have definitely banned people.

We will do it again if we must. But so far, I have, if someone sees someone really crossing the line, please let me know. The real Antonio is 50 cents said. I like a good conversation. I ain't talk fast. You just got to listen a little faster. Olenti, I watch the NR breakdown.

Okay. And Eric points out a part where the Miles Parlor variant is about to be bit in by the 42 Spider. I did see, I did hear about that. Like that Miles, that Miles was supposed. the Prouler one, he was supposed to be the Spider-Man. Right. Like that, that

was where it belonged. So if he was going to be Spider-Man, his universe, doesn't that negate Miles being an anomaly? Love this. No, what negates it is that the Miles in the Earth, what you heard this Miles? 16-10. Okay, yeah, that Miles is the one that was not supposed to be a Spider-Man. That's where the

anomaly comes in. Yeah. And he hijacked the other ones. And in our universe it was supposed to be a Peter Parker. And in the 16-10, it was supposed to be a Peter Parker. Yeah, yeah. It's supposed to be Chris, Chris Pine, Peter Parker. But appreciate the question here. Thank you.

Chris Peter Pine. I loved Spot so much. I think that's a, it's rare where you could get a villain who could go like that goofy to truly terrifying. Such good work. Yeah, I was going to say to you in the chat there, Miguel O'Hara, I think goofy and menacing in a way that really worked. Yeah. Hold on, guys. Uh-oh.

We got a desktop. Hold on. I done messed up everything here. What have you done? Where to go, John. Oh, it's a. in another window go up to the top just like move the mouse up to the top

okay never mind you're full of shit John and right click this you full of shit John yeah I found it John I fixed it well done with no help whatsoever all righty here we go where are we at Jim Carrey would be a fantastic spot

Holland refreshed this oh man what a what a beautiful beautiful thing that would be what time are we at it's currently 2 27 p.m. We've got three minutes here to not to get it through everything All right

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We haven't had a honeymoon Dude I got some places To recommend you in Cape Town Have you been in Africa? Yeah I was there for five weeks I went to Africa burn I went to Cape Town I went to there's like a beautiful

Tabletop Mountain just Really? Yeah I love Africa I have not been to Africa I want to go And there's some like really unique food I ate Springbok on pizza, and it was really delicious. Yeah, I love Africa.

It's a really pretty place. There's, like, moon rises out there. Do you think, um, do you think, uh, the Lion King plays are there? Did you do like the Lion King? Oh, no, it's actually just, uh, you walk out and the animals are doing it. It's just, yeah. Yeah, that's why it's not appropriations, because the animals just do them. The Lion King is performed, you know, like six or seven times a day, and, uh, also,

you can just take a walking tour of District 9. Mm-hmm. It's all there. All right. Count it. Let's see where we're at in a couple minutes here. All right. Gwen?

Oh, no. Oh, geez. I'm sorry, I read that comment. Sorry, I read the Rule 34 comment. You did. You got close. All righty. Okay.

So, let's recap everything that we have definitely talked about in the stream. Ending. Favorite cameos. Most talked about insomniac. Spectacular. Spectacular. Donald Glover. Donnie G.

Gwen. the parents spot yeah okay we've covered most of the bing with multiverse multiverse we've got to cover like everything

about peter b parker that much it was great the like the may park okay yeah then I will find a way sometimes I try to find a way to go what is the topic we have talked about

and how to segue it into one of the I think that's the only element I can think of let's go here let's go here what is busy brown's profile pick i i don't i know this i can't tell i can't tell it's got a white hat i mean is it you or is it somebody famous i don't know or is it just a stock

photo of someone who's not you okay ramen noodles i met yurrie 12 years ago diablo four servers are down that's messed up i want to play diablo all right here we go we're gonna do this good do this good malloc curry i think some way my Miles is introduced prior to Secret Wars, and during the Secret Wars event, they kill off Tom, thus passing the torch to Miles. How fucking awesome would it be if they just killed off Tom Holland? Oh, I would love it. How upsetting would everyone.

Can you imagine the audience response is killing off Tom Holland? I think Spider-Man is something Tom Holland loves, but I think there will be a time when he is like, I'm done with Spider-Man. And I think the best way to bring in a certain character is to kill off a beloved Spider-Man. I still think they're probably going to kill off Andrew Garfield, but I really think I really think that Tom would be a very impactful death. You really believe that they're still going to bring back

Andrew Garfield in some way? Yeah. I don't see it. I think we're going to get a Spider-Man 4 and AmazingClar and 3 in some way. Whether that's in Secret Orrs as a long series. They should just like combine them. Like just two movies.

They're just popping back in four. It's just combined. It's directed by Sam Ramey and Markwell. How cool would it be if they just had a movie where it was just Andrew Garfield and Toby McQuil. Just like a lethal weapon, but it's, It's like the Spider-Man. Yeah, how great would that be?

Lethal spiders. How cool would it be, man? I mean, I just want them to get their closure. They got a lot of closure at No Way Home, but I do think we get, I think it'd be really interesting to have Venom. They had lines. But Tom Hardy fighting Andrew Garfield and maybe him dying in that Miles coming through that universe. I don't feel like they kill off Andrew Garfield. There's too much money to be made.

I don't feel like Andrew Garfield wants to do it a lot longer because he talked about being a 40-year-old in Spandex. I know, and he looked great. He did. I mean, great die. Andrew. All right. Here we go. Okay.

Yeah, that's true. No, I don't think they're going to kill off Tom Holland. Tom Holland should play him for years to come. He doesn't have anything. His newest movie got some rough reviews. Come on, guys. Consistently. Seriously, what does Tom Holland have outside of Spider-Man?

Uncharted. That is truly a massive hit. Zendaya. She's doing better than him. No, but I think he wants to go have like a family. I think he wants to just go like... I think he wants to have a family. I think he's a very talented actor.

I think a lot of his work outside of Spider-Man is great. And I think, you know, that's what sometimes keeps people there. These things are like, I'm not really having anything outside of it. It's not really puffing off from me. I just want Tom to be happy, however that looks. You need that. You need that. It's hard to transcend a character like this. I mean, how many of the MC?

If it's the character that makes your name. I mean, look at Robert Downey Jr. What has he really had since leaving Iron Man? Oppenheimer. Coming soon. That's why everyone wants to watch it for Robert Downey Jr. Bald, Robert Downey Jr. excites me. Yeah.

Yeah, definitely. Let's go here. where are we at? Dan v. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks, John. Dan v. 900. Earth 42's Jefferson is also named Jefferson Morales. Rest in power, Captain Morales.

Thank you, Dan v. 900. It's his name in multiple universe. Aaron Davis keeps the name. Okay, so I was just, yeah, I was spitballing. Like, maybe that'd be unique. But, yeah, Aaron Davis is definitely because they're not married. But, yeah, I'd be interested. Thank you, Dan V900.

Absolutely. We can't be answering your question right now. We'll be back. Be like, we'll be right back to you. Malik Curry, here we go. We already did that. Yeah, we're at Jorge. Jorge.

This is a really good question. How did they keep Glover under wraps without leaking? That scene was a stealer in my theater. So much history is in that one scene. Hey, Carly King is in the chat. What up? What up, Carly? Go subscribe to all her stuff.

Ghost follow her on everywhere, like Koi does, obsessively watching her stuff every moment of the day. She has a text of me, but she's doing this shit with the helmet. Facts. I think they shot it on a soundstage and, like, it was a small set. I think you could sneak him in, yeah. I think it was just a closed set. It was like five of them. And I saw a picture of the wardrobe designer with him in the suit, and it's awesome to see the suit, like, with good lighting and everything else.

because they must have hidden all of that. So, yeah, when I make that TikTok, that's even deeper cut of what I went through. I'm going to post that picture because it's really beautiful. Because we saw this on an early screening where Koi's best friends, as mentioned earlier, Phil Lord and Chris Miller, they did say like, hey, you guys are like the first people to see this, so please don't do any spoilers. And I was like, all right, yeah, I'm sure there's like a couple of cool things in here. And I was like, there's a lot of things happening.

These are a crazy cameos. Yeah, that's cool. I also think some of the benefit of the movie being animated is it's not as scrutinized as the live action movies. So there's less people like out there trying to scoop. So I feel like this movie being, you know, this $125 million opening weekend surprised the same people that weren't spying on it like a Marvel movie. And I think that was a huge benefit. It's very true. Well, and two, the whole thing is made in, you know, big rooms with computers instead of like, oh, this actor was spotted here and oh, there's a set over here.

And, you know, like, yeah, I think you can easily lock and key. and also people probably have a little bit different of a kind of respect for the animators. That's a thousand percent true. Okay, Dan V-900. Okay, this is a good one. Really, this is a spectacular shout. Everyone, be quiet.

Spectacular, spectacular. Super chat. Really, my number one criticism is Ben Riley being an avatar of the 90s. The comedy work, but that fit came more of me with a character used like that. I did enjoy Ben Riley's appearance here. I'm not as much of his enthusiast as, say, him.

In fact, I'm a bit surprised that you seem very satisfied with how they handled him, where I felt like a lot of people were very let, even for me, who's like, I'm not married to any part about Ben Riley. Even to me, I'm like, I thought they'd do a little bit more with him. Other than a couple of, like, funny lines poking at him. I acknowledge the 90s are a tricky time for a lot of people, so I feel like he was much more digestible to the people that, like knew him casually and you're trying to make this movie for the audiences not for people like

me that's the issue is these people that are upset about ben riley are the diehards and i respect that you want like more of a uh a story about ben riley's journey and i see the cane parallel you're talking about here sure but cane is violent and ben riley isn't so i thought the anguish being more like emo and like going through that worked for the character this is a guy who dies his hair blonde tries to start his own life and goes through like PTSD moments about who he is the linear way to tell that is the simple way they did here. I would love more Ben Riley. My theory on Ben Riley is he is an existential crisis

of Peter Parker going through a mid-life crisis about responsibility. I don't know if we'll ever see that. I would love that. I know Tom Holland also loves the clone saga. Maybe one day. But for now, as an introduction to the character, I do think it worked and I think it still gave love to the character, especially in the style and the art and everything else. You make sure to leave my

brother's live stream every single time. Every time. All righty, John. This one's for you. Throwing it to you, John. Ooh, Dr. Father figure. Here So the question is, John, back again, do you think because Miles stops Spider-Man's Indian, Spider-Man, India's canon event, that comes back to bite them in beyond? Maybe he's not as powerful. It absolutely could.

I mean, they said they don't always save these dimensions as they are, you know, being ripped apart. So I don't know, there could be some kind of last-ditch attempt to save it. I'm sure, you know, Pavita is part of their little team at the end, so there would be cause to go back. But I don't know. I feel like we will see it again because they need to resolve one. whether it gets destroyed or not. And I think that could lead to some pretty big emotion down the line. I mean, I don't know what it would do to Paveter if it does go away.

Like, what it, you know, like he's then a spider out of time completely. So can they stabilize him forever? It brings up a lot of interesting questions. Well, that ties into my theory on why the Donald Lover cameo is amazing for 862 reasons, is that I think in the new universe, we have to acknowledge that miles, our miles, 1610 miles, has to accept that things have to go wrong for good, happen and i think that likewise spider-man india is not going to have the responsibility he's reckless in that universe he's fun he's joyish but he doesn't have the captain dying to shape his

responsibility and i think that's going to be a factor absolutely you guys are a hundred percent correct laura say uh ben riley is the andy sandberg voiced one he's scarlet spider he's got like the the muscles yeah the big muscles and the hoodie looking thing and he's uh one of the three that goes to pursue miles at the very end this wall looks fine yeah this wall looks fine this is weird I like across the Spider-verse More Than No Way Home Disney fan Thank you for always being here my friend Let's see here

Chris Thomas Do you think in the third movie It will come out that Miguel Is the anomaly He's the only spider person That has to drink something To keep his powers Ooh

Oh yeah he did inject Good theory Well he's got vampire elements Because of everything he's gone through physically and the world He lives in and the way of York But it would be very interesting If the reason he hates Miles so much

Is he is another So he sees himself in Miles And that causes the animosity I hadn't even considered that Like he's like It's a very good theory Yeah Ah he's the one that's a problem

And he's like fixing his own problems Like he's like bandaging universes That he causes issues Or maybe there's some type of thing About you know Too many It's like a Hancock thing Oh yeah

They can have too many anomalies In one room Yeah He's cool but not him Yeah But all Hancock reference those come up a lot dude man I'm always referencing Hancock this is the pinnacle

of superhero films it's underrated let it be known a moment of silence over to silence for Hancock Mattai Orko when Andrew Garfield thank you so much saved MJ

in No Way Home did he technically disrupt a canon event I guess not I guess these canon events and things that are supposed to happen in TVA timelines and all those things there's always they constantly

time travel they constantly create questions they're like what is what is meant to happen and what is not meant to happen because this person actually did the thing that you're saying they're not supposed to do

but that's okay it's a constant just go with the plot because they take place in the same movie because they take place the same movie I think it's that May's death

is the canon event for this and the lack of Uncle Ben implies it's a different universe because of the Uncle Ben being an Aunt May parallel. The Mary Jane character is in most timeline supposed to be the one he ends up with. So I don't think she's a Gwen stand-in except for in the moment that, you know, the Green Goblin, who's also not supposed to be there, causes the moment. So I could see it being like, you know, an incident for a nod, but not a candid event.

Yeah. Yeah. It would be interesting if, you know, when like a No Way home, when they brought like the other characters over, if they implemented that glitch effect in the live action if shit like that happens Oh, dude, go back? That would be a way to...

I feel like there's a consistency that you can do with that, you know what I mean? George Lucas said in. Special edition, make it happen. Let's do it, man. The more fun edition. Yeah, exactly what we'll just said right there. Yeah, that's what I was saying.

The other Peters don't glitch when they're in no way home. And so if they did implement that, aha, I was ahead of the chat for once. Miguel does need the blade serum. Hell yeah. Chris Tom, no, Frank DX, Frank DX, my bad.

Frank DX, thank you. The story plot past The characters, the animation is what makes this movie so good. You can't even decide who's right. Miguel or Miles? I don't know. Round two-tooing it. That is what I think.

Huh? Round two tonight, I think you're saying. Oh, no, round two-tuing it. Yeah, round two-ing it. My favorite Pixar movie. It's the sequel to Ratatooey. Ah, round two-tooing. Yeah, that was, I love a solid debate, especially in a sci-fi scenario of what would you do.

You create a great debate over something that is very relatable, that's, that's, very realistic. This is a very heightened science fiction scenario here. And that's why I constantly go back to, you know, one of the most best scripted debates, it's totally bad language there. One of the best scripted debates ever in cinema to me is the scene with Dr. Hammond and Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park of whether or not they should have created the dinosaurs. That is one of the best debates because this is a totally science fiction scenario and it puts you in the seat of, yeah, who's the son am I on here? That's a big ethical debate.

And that is exactly what I found they did here as well. Like, of course, I'm invested in Miles. And of course, I would want Jefferson to live. But maybe Miguel has a point. I think that is one of the best things about that. That's one of the things that puts this above into the Spider-Verse for me. It's creating that complexity that makes you have to choose. And then even ending on a note of, I don't know, is Miles being selfish?

And the ethical conundrum of both, we know this will happen to this guy. What do we do? And then that thing of, yeah, like, if you had no idea, yeah, it's like the very fact that you gain the knowledge screws up everything because then, yeah, like, do I, do I just let this go or do I intervene? Because now I have to because I know about it. And I love the weight of the, you know, it's already so much to bear for a Spider-Man when they lose a captain or they lose an uncle. But there are some of these characters, like Gwen, who's just waiting for her dad to die. like that what that puts on a character that is one of the things that I feel like makes this movie so much darker

is I know my dad's gonna die and I'm kind of just waiting for it to happen and Peter B. Parker being like this is how it has to be well what happens now that he's quit because do does that universe just avoid this entire like I feel like there's something to that there was nothing happening like how it happened in Spider-Man India's yeah there's no cascading

you know end of implosion yeah but it seems like it happens naturally in her universe. So I feel like that could be a detail that is part of the resolve of beyond in some way. All right. Here we go. Frank DX also saying, guys, by the way, when are you guys watching the Flash? We don't know. We're the only ones on the entire internet. Who haven't gotten to see the Flash. It's really, yeah, it's awesome. Andy Buscietti

subscribes to some of this. Hook it up. When I was trying to, I've emailed so I've gotten so many, so many emails. And half the people in our lane. And I even tried to. I even tried to. doing the whole, like, hey, I actually did the meth, and then we have the biggest trailer reactions to the movie. Look, and Andy Mochetti even followed us on Instagram. Like, come on. And still, we're not invited.

I toured with Chazam across many states. Oh, here we. Congratulations. Oh, good for you. That's what you want to do, brag about Zachary. And I emailed the same team and didn't hear back. I was saying I tried to go with like, hey, here, I've helped. Let me help again.

And no. Thanks, Brian Alexander. He respects me. Sure. I respect. Some real Andrew Tate mentality right there. Oh, he likes me. You want some pizza, Coy?

You want a pizza? Yeah, Batman's a fascist. I want pizza. What's that actually? I compared you to Andrew Tate. Why? I don't know. It just felt like the thing that came to my mind

because I was listening to the BBC thing yesterday. I was making the thumbnail. Sex traffic. But that's not, that's not, he has, what? Pizza. Yeah, pizza shit. It's like a fucking monster.

What are you talking about? Entertainment. He's the motivational speaker? Yeah. garbage you know garbage people can have some good philosophies though let me tell you should we separate the art from the artist what art

what art? That is a solid point boy I'm pulling my mind right now what art of R of A trauma do you think into the spider verse would be better would just go right am I reading that right Gwen Peter and mine no into the spider verse

is that that's what yeah it's I feel like there should be like a V there with just Gwen, Peter, and Miles Ghost Spider-Pig noir and anime really hurt the movie for me and I'm curious where you think, I don't think they hurt the movie at all. Man, I love those characters.

How they really elevated it. I mean, yeah. Gwen Peter and Miles would be fun, but I feel like part of the point is to have all those other characters. Although John Mullaney did come out and say that portraying Spider-Pig is what did get him down

the rabbit hole of becoming a drug addict. That's true. What? Oh. It's all this, whatever thing was going on. fine until I stepped into that damn booth. Man, why did

I decide to be an animated pig? It ruined my life. Richard Lloyd. We're going to end the stream suit, so I'm going to abuse this. Spectacular. Super chat. I'm not going to take it easy on, Coy. Someone needs to bring him down a notch. It's a little super lemon man.

It's okay, Coy. Oh my God, I haven't been updating this properly. I'm fucking fool. Your life is super stickers. Bask in your failure. Wixim, Jall, 4, 3, 4.2. Okay, I need to turn off the Super Chats.

I mean, no, no, I'm going to just turn off being able to submit Super Chats right now. We're just going to never read them again. So you guys got like five seconds to do it. Yeah. Oh, oh, there goes the slider. There goes the slider. Boom. If you continue, your fans will no longer see Super Chats as a person's option, and you'll no longer earn revenue from it.

I understand the implications. You understand the implications. What a great language. It's so aggressive. But you can still send super stickers if you want to. Yeah. Send a $200 super stickers. Those are the implications.

And we will play the sound effect like five times. Crank it up. Yeah. It was at 200% volume. Those stickers feel like. Get back to, you know. Get back. Get back.

Get back. Coe is just a white Lewis. You are White Louise. Oh, my God. Oh, that's so good. Oh, I love that. That is hilarious. You are the white Pena.

I will just catch up on lots of lore. By Disney fan. Winsome Jarl 4342. Do you guys think 90 Spidey voiced by Christopher Daniel Barnes will make a cameo in Beyond? I do. I think he and Silson. I thought he already made a cameo. No, he's not any yet.

And they said they have more Spider-Men. Oh, my God. Then they totally have to do it. Yeah, he comes in. I think Silk comes in. I think there are certain characters. Oh, my God. Yeah, what about the ultimate Spider-Man?

From the animated? Yeah. Yeah, and I think that'd be an also interesting conversation because in that universe, Donald Glover is Spider-Man, which ties into my, again, third movie's idea. When is Italian Spider-Man? That's what they got to, they got to hop into, like, the actual movies. Yeah.

From those back then. Yeah, do that thing they used to do where they insert, like, you know, yeah, insert the characters into that old footage. I think that would be amazing. There's also a live-action Spider-Man model from, like, the cover of an amazing Spider-Man like 176 or something. I'd love to see if there's like the guys in it like just as a still

like they did the 60s swing in. That would be funny. Yeah, totally. Wampa, if we use the voice modulator, everyone will be modulated. Mike, 2021. Thank you, my friend. Am I the only one what are you doing, no? Nothing. I'm just looking at the modulators to see what our options are. Am I the only one

who wants a Lego Spider-Man movie now? I can see it. Focus on the comedy like Lego bad I think it would be awesome. Can you imagine Lord of Miller did a Lego Spider-Man movie all the sudden? I mean, it would be... I was trying to think of how to describe this tone to people who hadn't seen it, and I'm like, it does feel like the Lego Batman.

It felt, oh, damn, I forgot what the other movie was, but yeah, it definitely has that Lego movie spirit to it and would lend itself easily. I'm going to look up the box office for across the Spider-Verse. I don't know how much it's made. It's doing great, dude. It's tracking it like 113, opening weekend, which is insane. let's see a variety has to say they're great everyone likes variety everyone loves 51 million

opening day which is bigger than Mario damn and Mario did okay I know and Mario is the second coming of cinema that's true I mean he's such a big character the first one got an Oscar it's got great word of mouth I think it's gonna have legs I think even with the flash coming out in two weeks it's a different enough market I think this movie's gonna be huge you imagine if the flash doesn't knock it out of first place I think flash is tracking lower than they expect

I think it'll get first place, but I think it won't be as big of a margin. Yes. Guys from King's Highway, thank you so much. Didn't like... Spider-verse 2 the first time, but rewatched it really liked it. I am in awe. Oh, wish life was drawn like that. That is a great point.

You know how people have said that they, you know, went into a state of depression, contemplated life because they saw Avatar, and they wish their world was really... like that i had never had a feeling like that with avatar not even come remotely close i actually had that feeling i wouldn't like come out depressed i did come out i would watch you going wow i i wish i could live in this world a little bit i wish i could be in that world uh spider the spider verse this one specifically did that for i caught my surgeon no i've just loved to be yeah experience a a moment of life rendered through that art are we still on the voice

voiceover thing, John? No, it's us. We'd hear it. We wouldn't be able to hear it if John changed it. We heard it every other time, though. I can guarantee you we are normal right now. Because this is a minute behind that. That was when it was just a single...

Everyone's saying. No, I did it for a very specific... It's not on... I can see it. So... We'll say now I'm back. I'm going to talk about. Anyway, but yeah, guys. Just had to run something by John.

I want to... Thank you for your foot, Daddy. I do want to say that I think the leap in animation from anything to Spider-Verse was somehow matched in the leap from Into to this. Because we've seen Puss and Boots, as mentioned, we've seen... I have this Puss and Boots. Oh, it's so good. We've seen the Turtles trailer.

Like, we've seen animation styles mirror the first one. I think this leap is the first time. Like, Avatar, I thought was beautiful, but it didn't make me as emotional as this. There was actually a moment I found myself crying watching the Spider-Gwen footage, and I didn't it wasn't tied to story. It was actually like beauty. And that's only happened to me twice in life. It was the Grand Canyon and the Cliffs of Moore. Like two things that are in real life

so staggeringly beautiful. It caused me to emote unwillingly and this was like the third. This really affected me. So the Spider-Gwen universe was so beautiful. It like caused involuntary an emot-gasm. Yeah. It was wonderful. That's beautiful. Coy sat with a big smile on his face

during Schindler's List and 12 years of slave but cried all throughout across the spider transported. She never seen Chinnler's list. Oh, yeah. Which would be a great watchdog, I'm sure. Yeah. People will love nonstop talking coi on that. Spot all the Easter eggs in the Shindler's list.

Oh, Liam Mason? Oh, my God. And you would give the best rant afterwards. Dude, it puts it to this of Hitler in it. I would so love your reaction just to watch the rant that follows it. Just watch you verbally punch Nazis for 20 minutes afterwards. I need to watch a C-Soo for verbally punching Nazis. All right.

Here we go. Here we go. John, yeah, I saw C-Soo. Did you? Yeah, I had a reaction to it. Sisu, got a reaction with Roxy. I was killing Nazis. So I was like, yeah, I'm bringing the Jew girl on.

What? Scroll down a little bit so the people can see the one we're about to read. It's, it's right there. It's Guy from King's Highway. We just read that. Oh, really? With the foe? Didn't we just read that with the foe?

Wait. Didn't like Spire first, we watched it. And then that's when I went to the whole avatar spiel. And I talked about crying. It's because you were focused on the fucking bull. I'm John. It's because of the buttons, John. Copy that.

Johnny Cash. I have been thoroughly straightened out. When you drink too much, and it hurts when you vomit, I wonder if that's how it feels when they glitch. Ooh, maybe. I keep a close watch on this glitch of mine. I like the idea of like. I keep my spiders all the time. I think you're talking about like the.

I keep the awareness. out for the tide that binds. Anyway. I like the idea of the spins. Because her mom. Feeling like the Spider-Bers. I fought the Rye. No.

Yeah, the spins is very much like what I imagine this feels like. When you drink so much that you're like near blackout, like the brownout plus spins, I think that parallel looks fair. Fair enough. Christian, Christian's unpronounceable. I hate you people. Goodbye. That's a call back to an hour ago. Yeah.

But I appreciate you, Christian. Thank you, Christian. Appreciate you just the same. Trash boat. All right, here we go, people. Nothing. I didn't do a thing. You didn't see.

There's no video evidence or anything. That's terrible. It's not what it's for. John, I like comedy, but I don't like be made a fool. You guys don't understand what being... I read the wrong one. Spider-Man has always been my favorite superhero. I'm 20 now, and I love this film.

I'm white. I'm a man. Oh, this one we're talking about woke stuff. I don't think so. I feel like he's just contributing this information. He's just letting us know that data. And nothing about this film bother me. We are all people and should accept each other.

Trash boat. But you spelled except with an EXC. So we should feel like all like so. Everyone's accepted. Shit to dish. out. I accept him accepting us. Yeah. I know what's going on,

Joe. I appreciate it. No. I'm just happy the trash boat is proven against their name. He's a white man. Trash boat is not let me know. You are the furthest thing from it. You're like a yacht. You're not a trash boat at all. And that's the fun of your name.

I just love the way that sound. Sounds like a weird white savior super shit. I'm a white man and nothing about this bothers me. I think he's trying to say like... I know it's not at all what you're saying. I just feel like it's just funny in, you know, my stupid brain. That's my brain.

Making a joke. I am here as a white man. I'm a white man and I approve the inclusion and diversity in this film. That's how every real redix video featuring Coyer, I will start. That's how we do all or do the animated intros. Prefaceing. White man approved. Super chat.

You guys don't understand what being woke means. Oh, here we go. It's when the narrative canon has changed for political agenda. That's not what it means. This movie has no political agenda in its narrative. I think he's a supporter. Sure. I think he's actually, this is a time when you go, wait a minute, we don't need to just argue.

Let's see. Sure. He gave $20. We'll see what it means. How do we assess this? We'll see what you got to say. Spider-punk is canon and it's played for laughs

Yeah I think some people are getting confused on what we're trying to say About like what we're specifically making fun of So there's something coming down to our communication on it I feel like we're making fun of people that don't know what woke means And that is Awareness

Anytime you say the word of powder cake It's not it's not just that We're making fun of what people who say what woke is and then don't realize that the things they often complain about are actually in this movie as well and just don't see it because a lot of the time it doesn't even come down to they're not even complaining about the usage of context.

They're just complaining about the fact that the context is there. You know what I mean? And I'm saying the context is here. They have flat out. It's pretty clear than most movies that they complain about. And that's where we were kind of making fun of. So, yeah, I don't feel like this movie sacrifices its narrative canon for political agenda, nor do I feel like a lot of the movies that they complain about do.

That's kind of what I'm saying is that it's not changed for political agenda. It just is aware of the world and is speaking for people. It's like people see the Miss Marvel trailer. And somehow they've talked it up to this is a big political agenda movie. Well, it was like when I said that before, the trailer even dropped for Captain Marvel in 14 hours of very weak-willed men are going to have a problem. You can you understand what Spider-Fuckers

have to say? I'd have to die. I think they straddle the line with Spider-Punk in a sense that it is funny a lot of his points of view are played with humor but I don't think they're played as just solely

jokes. Yeah. You know, like they're true to him and I don't think the movie belittles that. Yeah. I'm not a role in model have been a runway model like there's jokes in it but there's also an awareness of his stance but yeah i think this person's uh saying what we're saying but i i don't think it's as clear cut is it's like when loki said he's by like when it pretty much made it clear he's bisexual in the show yeah of loki this one line that had no effect on literally anything in the movie and there were people who were like identity but like youtube who's making videos about it

identity politics Disney's agenda one line and I'm like there's like at least 10 lines in this movie so that's that's my point about saying they should be upset

I'm not saying I just think it's funny that they come out and say there's nothing in here that that's the part that's funny or something like Guardians of the Galaxy it's the same way how we like this is totally unwoke and I'm like this whole movie has

very and more movies than anyone gives them credit for all have agendas and politics within them whether you like it or not. It's just a very apparent what side of what woke thing is being front and center is the thing that upsets them. Sure. Which usually involves

race swapping or female lead. Right? That's usually what it is. Or any overtly homosexual anything that's male oriented certainly? Yeah, man. It's a man who identifies as bisexual. You know, I totally.

I hate seeing my... It reminds me of me. Not my star wars. I'm just saying, if you're, if you're complaining about gay kissing on screen, that we shouldn't have anybody kiss on screen. That's all I'm saying. I wear all the gay folks out here, like, get these hetero kisses out of my faces. Tyrone's definitely obsessed about wokenness. Yeah.

It's hilarious. I feel like you just wind yourself. Tapist reviews are... I'm so glad I'm not on YouTube, but just make you too, because, man, YouTube sounds like the worst place. Husker for Life 109 Coy's just white louis Ha yeah that's right I love it dearly thank you

Oh my god I totally skip one I'm so sorry How could I skip the most important one? Brain it back no Watching spectacular Spider-Man Constantly as a kid I finally see him on the big screen Made my life complete they gave him like a real scene A beautiful that line was so impactful

And wonderful it was a real scene Yeah they like featured him with like a full-on angle I wasn't even sure if Yuri talked Yeah they was so quick and they gave him a Beach bubble. They gave him a text bubble, which made me happy, though. But yeah, no, they gave a full-on like spectacular Spider-Man love moment. I honestly think Spider-Man

Insomiac comes in the third one more, I hope. That would be cool. It'll be a full-on character, and then they'll... They've got to get both designs, though. That's what I'm saying. There's a whole multiversal conversation to have about the change in Peter's design. Oh, that'd be so much fun if they have both Yuri voicing himself

and then make clone saga jokes at like the different Spider-Man insomniac games. And then bring in the Spider-Man meme They're like the poorly drawn Like they did with Sannick Oh, I would love that I love hearing it Slip Not to K-Shon

Big fan from Philly Benefans in 2016 What? Love you Love to Philly Shazam Thank you Yeah

Dude I would love to go to Philadelphia Rocking Never been either It seems like a great place Never been I've had a cheese steak ones though I want to see I want to see the Rocky Balboa statue

I want to see the Bell SOSO does not have the rights to Oh Oh, that's interesting. He doesn't get royalties from the existence of his statue? I don't know. Strike. Statue strike.

Michael Hobson. I want everyone to know that I was joking about the gay. I don't know if the internet understand the subtext. I love gay people for a reason. I've tried doing things with coin many times. True. Coy refuses. I value our friendship too much.

Yeah. I mean, he's like, Greg, we work together. We're best friends. That third level is too much. Quit being a pussy and take it out. Well, yeah. And everybody knows that like if you're married, you have a wife or whatever. You still have one slot open for a dude.

A literal slot. You can't have any more ladies, but you can have one dude. Sounds acceptable, you know. It's like, you're like, oh, we have my wife hooked up with another girl. A lot of women don't say that about their husbands. Hucking up with another guy. Stay woke. If you want to watch your significant...

You just don't hear it as often. If you want to watch your significant male other hookup with another guy, then comment. That's an interesting... I just want to know what percentage of the chat is in that vibe. You guys put some... What are those? What's the purple symbol? The squash?

Oh, the eggplant. Eggplants. Throw eggplants in the chat. Some little drips. Coy needs to accept those aren't how long that would take. Now I'm the monster. If you weren't homophobic. You've seen my stand-up to egg.

You know where I stand. Oh, I know a lot of things about you after your stand. I never thought I would ever hear. I saw a whole new side of you that day. It was good. It was illuminating. That was the raunchiest stand-up show across multiple sets. Yeah, what the hell was...

It's why I'm not invited to New York. Christian cut me from New York. That's why? Yeah. It doesn't fit the tone that he's trying to go for. I literally got like two risque stand-up. That's so hard. 90% of you.

you guys would not stop talking. Coiseled. Too strong. Coinsled. Watch these YouTubers do stand-up from the Christian Harloff channel, and I'm like, half of them are just talking about sex, though. I do love sex. Ah, now we're demonetized. Sexuality is a human phenomenon, and it's a beautiful, strange thing.

Michael Hobson, my point in the life's true of this. Do you think? Two hours and 50 minutes. Thank you, Michael Hobson. Do you think we will get the ultimate? Ultimate Spider-Man and that version of Miles Morales in Across the Spider-Verse part two. Yes. Definitely.

What if we just didn't get that Miles Prouler? He's just Donald Glover doesn't come back, but he's animated as Miles. It's just like they struck the live action. No, I think we're going to have a lot of different ones of that. I think we're going to see Ultimate Spider-Man maybe talk to Earth 1610s. And I think it'll be an interesting, like, you know, Donald Glover, plays both prowler and ultimate spider-man as a means of like accepting that you have to look because because don't glover's ultimate spider-man had to accept loss because there's loss so i think maybe

donald glover is the mentor to uh shameek moore's miles in beyond the spider-verse oh what if that miles prowler is really not bad that'd be interesting because i mean in the comic books hoby brown okay so in in peter parker's universe uh the six-one-six universe prowler is hobie brown uh hobie brown there's a completely different prowler who is a guy that turns to crime out of like having to out of necessity you may notice that spider punk is hobie brown so there's actually a hobie brown prowler and a hobie brown spider punk so it stands to reason that there are prowlers who are good true cool all right we're going to knock this out roads of uh nope michael hop yep did that roads it's heel i love the movie did we really talk about the comparison of what if dr strange

episode to the movie um no i don't know why that would come up But sure? Yeah, I think that. That would be cool, though, if they did get what if it's Dr. Strange to be in the Spider-Everse. That would actually work in this animation. That would be amazing. And it would, like, work better than the movie tried to have a dark, but it wasn't him. I would love for Blind Wave to collab with them.

But, yeah, that would be incredible. Oh, yeah, those guys are great. Yeah, and that would actually work beautifully because we did get an alternate evil strange. That would allow that pat, that would actually patch up the multiverse plot hole the same way it patched up the Morbius plot hole. I love that. Great idea. Do it. It's all about patching up plot hole.

That's what we use it all for in these days. Retroactive patch of buckle out. I love Haley Steinfeld. I think she's an absolute gem. Absolute gem. Peach of a school. Just got done. Thank you, Oz.

Chimp. Just got done watching the movie. And I love it. As much as Miguel is right, he definitely went too hard on Miles. Yeah. Really, it's just his communication issues. Miguel needs to be a better communicator. I love that people see Miguel is right and Miles is right

because that's a real, like we talked about with sci-fi, a real, like, answer. But also, uh, he, that's his character. It makes sense what he's went through that it'd be that way and, like, how we wouldn't respect that he has to do this horrible thing. He feels like, no one else is responsible but me. He even says, like, I'm the only one fixing it. He has a whole spider society helping him, but he's like, no, it's just me. So I think it was perfect. It's pretty cool that Oscar Isaac is our moon night and also one of our Spider-Men.

Yeah. And apocalypse, guys. Yeah Redemption for Oscar Isaac You guys can't see But I just lower John's mic So many things about Nevermind

Miguel is racially motivated Sure No Puerto Ricans in my spider birds Oh my God Oh my God We got a 20 Oh Spectacular

Super chat James Wheeler Hello Greg John and Coy Just got out of the movie and I believe is my favorite movie of the year. I mean, my favorite compo movie ever. Also, Coy, fellow Massehole here, Franklin Mass. Franklin Mask, Kay.

Yeah, I think it might be one of the best compo movies of all time. I mean, if this ends up be, what I, my hope is this, though, is because it's one of those things where beyond the Spider-Ververse, God forbid, and the likelihood of this happening, very low, is that if beyond the Spider-Verse just happen to suck, it could actually affect. The view, the way you reflect on a cross, you know when like a bad sequel comes out and it's kind of affects your experience at the prior installment? That's the one part of Beyond the Spider-Bur's I'm concerned about doing is affecting it. A lot of times it, a lot of times that might not be the effect. But especially when it is such a part two of a trilogy, you know what I mean? Where it's like, obviously the story won't be complete unless we get to part three. It's not just like, try to think, like, it's like Terminator 3 doesn't affect Terminator 2 for me.

Right, right, you know, because... But if the endgame had been bad, how that would diminish infinity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Beyond the Spider-Verse does happen to have that potential of doing that. But, yeah, I think it's... It might be my favorite comic book movie, too, which is just staggering. Of all time? Of all time.

I can't think of a movie that I got such a, this medium is the only way to tell it. This tells all the things in the story. The villains are just as good as the heroes. Like, this might be my number one, period. Wow. Chill. Yeah. How do you think Miles's relationship with Peter?

Thank you, Carson LaTham. Miles' relationship with Peter B. and Gwen are going to be affected by their actions in this movie into the third movie. I think Peter B.'s kid is going to die terribly. Going to have a tragic death. It's going to be the most violent first R-rated Spider-Man movie we've ever gotten. I thought Peter B. Part, you know, it's funny? I didn't miss Peter B. Parker at all. And he showed up, I was like, oh, yeah, Peter B. Parker.

Whereas I remember the first time watching him to Spirder. versus me it has something to do with the marketing and just being new with Miles that I was like waiting for him to show up sure but this time around I didn't even have on my mind and then he then he shows up it's incredible how the last five years have made Miles maybe the biggest legacy character of all time and I'm including other green lanterns I'm including hell even like nightwing like there are legacy characters then there's Miles Morales yes he to so many people is Spider-Man and I think that's so beautiful I think they've really done something special with the character he's a very irresponsible dad though oh I was talking about Miles but yes no

Peter B. Parker is, I mean, good luck. Yeah, he literally assures her he's not going to take the baby out. And he's like, I'm just taking this baby out. Yeah. I hope the next movie he's getting it. I hope the three movies he's having this like off-screen relationship with Mary Jane. He's not with her. He gets back with her as a kid.

And the next one of him, he has a divorce for being a terrible neglectful dad. She helps us. Straining order for both her and the baby. And she helped doing the divorce. They're like all in court. But he was funny in this film again. bear devil represents mary jane dude spider court stacy's mom's got a cannon going on oh you talked over my cannon going on line you got it i was just harmonizing with you you were the

lead you were the main part of the melody g it's so good so money we hit the three hour mark in the stream and we've lost all Say that again in, in 380 seconds. 240 seconds. Stacey's bomb. Cannon event rules shouldn't apply to Miles when he's an anomaly, plus it was never meant to be Spider-Man loophole. Makes Miles even more unique than he all, where he is. That's very true.

Unfortunately, we have covered this topic quite a lot. But, yeah, I agree with you. That's what I got. And you have a great name. Well, and I think that also works, too, because even if, yeah, even if, The canon events shouldn't apply to him. He still is like this anomaly with great potential to disturb the balance. I think they should make Donald Glover prowler in an MCU.

I'd love that. Spider-Man 4 needs a street-level villain. I think having someone with that power set would work. And they say there's in storage to go back to their home universes. We did cover this on your stream lab, whale watchers media. Do you guys think that inheritors will get used? We did talk about it quite extensively. I hate being one of those kind of streamers.

But we did. We're like, but we did talk about it in depth. And we talked about it to you. That's true. So we did technically answer your question. Stop yelling at us in the comments. Appreciate the redundancy. You might have already left and been like,

they took too long and get to my question. I'll come back to the stream later and see when they answer. That happens a lot. Cricket. Thank you, Cricket. Rewatch first movie. And it still hits a little harder for me than this one did. Maybe I got to see it again.

Did it in a spot. New favorite villain. Well, you know, like the first movie, one of the best parts of that, film, that core dynamic of Peter B. Parker and Miles is obviously a missing element in this film. But this is such a different movie. But there is such a unique, like, charm and such a surprise to seeing this version of Peter Parker, you know, it's such a specific Peter Parker. And it was, so you don't, and there's also the wow surprise factor of doing such a thing that is, of course, missing. But you can't repeat that. You can't. So they did something else different.

And I like what they did. That was different, you know? Yeah. And Malik Curry, it's pronounced Malik. I think I got it pretty close, so stop yelling at me. Thank you, Malik. Never forget now. Oh, yeah.

Oh, and didn't know a spot, new favorite villain. I'm going to call my favorite yet. But, you know, we'll see how we progress. Great story. Terrific, though, yeah. Love you, Malik. Thank you. Malik.

And Busy Brown back at it to yell at everyone, including me. My very first super chat. Rejoice, rejects. Multiple sounds. Connor Burroughs. If you three had a spider team like Gwen, who would be in it? Oh my God. Tyrone Magnus,

Geeks and Gamers, and Andrew Tate. Yes, perfect. I'll take the quartering. I'll take, uh, yeah, who else is? yelling out there. I'll take Alex Jones on my team. Oh, my God, Alex Jones. Yeah, definitely got to get Alex Jones on the team. There's some Joe Rogan

on there. Yeah, Joe Rogan, perfect. Some of Joe Rogan sauce. What about you? You know, I'm going to go, uh, Bill Burr. Not making it fun. A little bit of, a little bit of, if we can bring back anyone, I got Heat Ledger on there. Oh, my God. And then, uh, Ben Riley. See how it is. Yeah. Then I can have to keep Ben Riley, though. I take him.

I steal them. All right. It's my guy. I'll hang out with you because you got Ben Ryan. Yeah. My muscles. So well to fight. Oh, my God. We got to the last one right at the three hour mark. We did it here.

And Craven the Hunter is the next one to continue Sony's great films and then OK film legacy. Yes. Hey, man. They had a Craven in the movie. And for a second, I thought they were going to give us Lauren Taylor. Oh, my God. We are not done. We got two more to do.

Coy. Home stretch. Home stretch. We don't end the stream unless we do them all. Mr. Juan, Mr. Juan, he's saying, hey, real rejects. My foot is a microphone now.

I really appreciate all the fun content you all put out. Love the hours of entertainment you provide. Like, grade A comedy, like my foot is my microphone. Coy, you've mentioned, 2099 is your favorite Spider-Man. Can you share some of your favorite comic runs? I want to clarify He's not my favorite

He is a favorite Spider-Man He's not my favorite My favorite's ultimate Spider-Man I believe I can't keep up with this That's fair It's a big bit

But Spider-Man 29-9 Go back and read The Rick Leonardi run Rick Leonardi's the artist They modeled the Spider-Man After in this movie as well Yep he's the fifth turtle Rick Leonardi

He's Leonardo's cousin But Rick Leonardi is the artist That did the style They modeled it after It starts in 1992 It's actually the first of the 299 imprint you can get a collection of them you can read the whole first arc at once and they're very very very

90s so be prepared for that i think they improved on him in the movie hell's yeah maybe well done that's that's that's that's that's that's my that's my plot you got it there it is there's also a great crossover of spider man from the comics in 29 and uh i got time travel thing against vulture 299 you might dig because it's very multiversal oh pinoy pride bye 6 a m get some sleep you just gave me an idea for a shirt they come to me like Jesus. Jaden Stevens, or like God, going to Mary, saying have Jesus. Hey, guys, it's my first time donating. Hey, thank you so much.

We got a thing blocking you here. John, John, how do I get rid of this? Kay? I'm not. I think it's a head. Oh, I know. I did it. I don't know where I got it.

There we go. I was saved it. All right. Please. Hey, guys. It's my first time donating. Hold on. I just want to thank you all for you wish you guys to.

It's say Spider-Funk was my favorite. Funter rewatch. These streams always go off the race. They always start off with what happened in this movie. I got to remember it. I want to be sharp. I want to get good a bit of it. And then three hours in.

Then like an hour gap. Happiness sets in. Oh, fuck it. This three means nothing. I don't know, man. Miles did some shit, and it was good. A phone really much, I think he was trying to warm Miles and keep them away from Spider-H-Q before they got there. Curious on your thoughts. Yeah, he made it really clear when he was, like, tearing down the things. And not only was that a visual metaphor for tearing down the establishment,

but he also said a really clear line to that point being that, make sure you know who you're fighting with before you enlist. Make sure you know the war before you enlist. Exactly. So I think that line was pretty indicative of what was going on. And then I love that at the end, he knew that Spider-Glan would eventually, be the one to help him out. So I love that Spider-Punk, though, an anarchist, was a good judge of character,

and they made him a more nuanced character by having me more than just an anarchist. He was an anarchist with heart. Because he's Spider-Man. And those anarchist tendencies help at a crucial point when a real injustice seems to be being rendered. Yeah, aren't we the good guys?

Yeah. And I like that, yeah, you have the little moment of Jessica Drew being like, oh, okay, that's kind of getting to me, but you got Spider-Punk who's, like, already on that wave. Exactly. Yeah. And hey, shouts out and love for Jessica Drew,

We haven't mentioned her at all, but I like these are racist. Well, no one's really talking about her, I noticed. I feel like she'll be more of a talking point in the next movie. Yeah. Especially when we see whoever her dad is, and then the man takes over. I think whatever. And what's the sex of the baby? Gotta know.

Yeah, we haven't. Yeah, no one's really talked about Jessica Drew. Dude, start chat. What do you got? Wait, she's also going to be in, in a... There's a live action, Jessica Drew. I believe in Madam Webb. Yeah, yeah.

And I think that's going to be relevant. And one of my favorite comic arcs is a mother, Jessica Drew, like, as a single mom, you actually don't meet the dad. And Porcupine, who does cameo in this movie as the guy that Spider-Man jumps off the train to just kick into the ether. He reforms and becomes a good guy, and he's actually the babysitter for Jessica Drew's baby. So I thought that was a fun little cameo for comic fans. Well, guys, I thought this was a great stream. I feel like Coy really did a great job the day. You killed it, Coy.

John, I thought you were even better than Coy. A thousand points to you. Whose line is in any way? Read off the credits, John. Absolutely. You're a football player trying not to get arrested for sexual harassment. Ex-Fantom. That's just my phantom limb touching your thigh there.

Ooh, Olenti. Don't let me make you feel uncomfortable by getting awfully close to you here in the chat. Dereal Antony. Oh, no, I am not trying to grab that. Just reaching for some peanuts. By the way, guys, we're ending the stream right now. hope you guys realized that's what's happening. Massimo Sommdal, it's about to become a scandal because of my horrific actions here

in the chat today. ZB, I'm not going to go with the joke I had lined up for that. Wampa PV, you're going to get HPV from me when I touch, this is going real great. All right, all right, okay. I'm glad to stop this bit now. Thank you guys so much for being here. this was another fun stream spider stream we'll call it

I should have put it that spider stream live spider stream we got changed the title live spider stream all this time didn't think about that but yeah thank you guys so much for being here

this was a blast to do and Coy thank you for bringing your knowledge really helps on these yeah man and your enthusiasm yeah it comes in handy

and enthusiasm and John you are just the whole package and more importantly thank you to everyone who gave I don't think it's playing

so funny it's not playing no okay it's spectacular spectacular yeah yeah go go

perf I didn't get to hear it at all not once I heard it once through the headphones quiet it's still the weirdest thing to me because the monitor was working the monitor was working

that's how you heard it no it's done It's done. All right, guys. Well, thank you so much. And I'll talk with all of you relatively soon. All of you. Much love. Say hi to your mother for me. And, uh, mocky-mock, rep. Close out. Peace out.