The Reel Rejects - SPIDER-NOIR EPISODES 4-6 REVIEW - The Horror Of SpiderVerse Is Perfect! (Nicolas Cage Spiderman)

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:41 I started with you, didn't I did. I did. Okay, I'm not crazy. I speak astute. I loved it. Me too, I loved it. I loved this whole thing, man. That was great. I am way more emotionally different about this than I was last time.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yep. I was a bit concerned, honestly, because I was like, I really enjoyed the act. I enjoyed Act one, the first three episodes. But, yeah, I mean, we spoke extensively about it. I was not like emotionally reeled in. I was like, it was all mainly an intellectual experience with enjoyment. This was 100% way more my cup of tea. And they kept all the film noirism going.
Starting point is 00:02:27 But I love, I really respect how they transitioned the genre to more of the monster horror that I was like personally hoping for. And they started like up in the pace. They started using a little bit more like cinematic language. It's cool because like this star, part of like talkies is so defining with the film noir era and then you're kind of watching like evolution of filmmaking happening as the series gets a little bit more ramped up as well and so I loved it man I think the um all the stuff with exploring his backstory was was it was truly horrific uh I like that they're embracing a little bit more of the modernisms with their score that's that's the big part where I think they're coming in their music score still sounding like of it sounding more I think the first act had more music that sounded from that era and now it's sounding a little bit more homageing the era if that makes sense
Starting point is 00:03:20 so what they've done here though has been a lot of surprises what they did with the crazy scientist and adding the layers to it was really exhilarating Nicholas Cage I really do I'm so connected to Ben Riley I found my that's the fucking thing
Starting point is 00:03:36 that was mainly missing too I mean beyond all that the reason why a lot of this is working is I'm way more connected to the characters too the villain and with Silverman I find him a lot more more. I see how he has the power. I'm more connected to like Tombstone Sandman.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I like the fucking what's the electric guy. Mega watt. I like him. He's cool. He's funny. He's entertaining. It's the guy's name because he's really good. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I'm curious what his name. We usually have the credits up for the. Yeah, what they've done with Ben Riley. Now he's feeling a little bit more like, like we, you kind of want to like the Nick Cajisms as this series progresses. And because they went a little bit more into like, the horror elements and the more disturbed language of him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I think you were getting way more of the Nick Cageisms that we've been. Expecting. Wanting. So yeah, I think this is, to me, this, this arc was incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I genuinely was in love with it. I was, I knew I was in love with it. Like, I was like, okay, I love that first, I loved episode four,
Starting point is 00:04:34 five was like, oh, this is great. And I just kept getting like, this is still like fucking like, like I'm, I'm no longer thinking. I'm in it.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah, I'm not really, I'm feeling this. more than I am thinking. And once I was there, I was like, yeah, I'm in flow state with this show now. And I really, really dug it a lot. Yeah, I'd have to meet you there. I think I really enjoyed that first arc for what it was.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I was really in love with the way that it was filmed. But yeah, getting ingratiated to his past. And now we have this love triangle going on. And we got to see more of his relationship a little bit more with Ruby. All that stuff was great. Yeah, I think this is cementing itself is probably one of the stronger shows
Starting point is 00:05:24 we've gotten in the superhero genre this year. Granted, we've got a lot. Wonder Man was great. We really enjoyed Daredevil. But yeah, I think, like, from a consistency standpoint, I think I'm enjoying this a little more than Daredevil.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But, yeah, I think some of my similar kind of criticisms that you had with someone like a Silver Main, is he does feel more threatening now and especially how manipulative he is, kind of being like more of that father figure. I'm really loving Robbie's journey as well, seeing how he's finding his way and getting the respect that he deserves, both getting his job at the Daily Bugle back
Starting point is 00:05:59 and then getting his chance to actually publish the work that he wrote for himself. I enjoy the complexities of Kat's kind of journey over here, both like having that affection for Ben, but really loving Flint and the sacrifices she's willing to make on, you know, Ben's behalf because she wants to save Flint. So, yeah, all the stuff is really enjoyable. Yeah, and I, even though this is a different universe and we got that little nod that maybe, you know, this is a Peter Parker. It's very different from what we would expect from a conventional Peter Parker, but there are still echoes and shades of a Peter Parker within his interpretation of it. even though he is very Nick Cage, but at the end of the day, you can still consider this a Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:06:47 So, yeah, I'm really, really enjoying it, really invested and excited to see how it ends. I think I'm going to mirror a lot of what you guys had to say. I think I was not quite as high on one, two, and three as these guys. I was, it's not my genre, and I don't have the language for it, as I said in the review. And I was a little worried that my removal from that I wouldn't be able to engage emotionally. I was definitely thinking about, I was actually, I'm going to, say self-conscious about not enjoying and i was like well it's not what's not working for me and uh i think i was just in my head about trying to find my way in and then these three episodes i was so invested
Starting point is 00:07:24 in the characters i was so mesmerized by the visuals and i think the pacing is a little bit more suited for my sensibilities i really love brendan gleason's growth into being more aggressively forward like i think something about how he's going out and he's more engaged in the it makes me feel the threat of him a little bit more. And with the villain feeling more threatening, I'm more feeling the stakes for our heroes. Like, when there's a threat, even if it's just knowing his malice,
Starting point is 00:07:53 it makes me have stakes. You know Spider-Rane's gonna make it, but you wanna feel like someone could go at any minute. And I genuinely loved that I didn't know who got shot at the cliffhanger for the first one. And then they use that to take out his two men, and that allows for that void to be filled with, like the heroes we see assembling.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And we see their turn to villainy from being kind of, anti-heroes into like full-on villains. I'm also really impressed with the amount of cat Hardy manipulation because we all felt like he was getting worked. We just didn't know how. And I like that writing when you've got the femme fatale working the lead gum shoe guy. And you're not sure what the angle is. Like I was invested in what her angle was. I love that she does love Flint and does seem to have feelings for Ben. And she is trying to do the right thing. I think they're walking this great fine line with her as a femme fatale, which is also Felicia Hardy. Like Cat Hardy is also someone that walks a fine line of making decisions that
Starting point is 00:08:47 she is served by, but she's also a good person. And so they're doing that with Cat Hardy in a really fun way. So there are echoes of the comics. And it isn't like a multiverse where it's so similar that you want them to be the same. Spider-noir is a more violent character. Spider-Noir is from another time. So this is taking some swings that I don't think they can call him Peter Parker. So I love the twist of calling him Ben Riley and saying he changed his name and howling the legal of him able to do all these things because of that. So I don't know, man. I, I, these, the second, uh, the second act here. So episode one was the, but, no, what was, the second one was the betrayal of like her revealing at the end. What was the first episode? That she've learned to
Starting point is 00:09:29 you, Spider-D spider. Yeah. So I think the structure is also really strong. I remember thinking each of these endings was really good. Like episode four ending with the Spider-Man reveal, episode five, the betrayal. Episode six is like the, the, fully, you know, suit up, ready to take on the third act and like the antidote in hand. I think they're structuring the show really well. I am starting to see why it all came out at once just for pacing. And I think getting to this act was smart for like short attention span people, like sometimes myself.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But I also think that I kind of would have loved if it was like a episode one and two release then weekly because there has been this really strong buildup of, it'd be nice to talk about each episode. Like we just watched these all at once and I forgot how the first one ended and it was two hours ago. It's just a lot of data to watch it all at once. I actually think the acts that we've been watching it in. Oh, the cuts are perfect. I think
Starting point is 00:10:15 it would probably like fucking Netflix did that with the goddamn show that everyone loves. No, League of Legends show. Arcade. Oh, releasing us three sections. They would do like, yeah, three episodes a week. And I'm like, this works. It's like one, two, and three
Starting point is 00:10:31 seemed like they really formed together. And then these... These definitely did. Yeah. So that's my only real thing. I wish there was a little bit of time just to marinate a little bit. But I think as far as like what we've chosen to break them into, fortuitous. So, yeah, I really, really love this act. Yeah, I love Twilights. I haven't seen all of Twilight.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Have you guys seen any of the Twilight Zone? Some, some. Yeah, it sounds sporadically growing up. That Twilight Zone, definitely the horror vibes of the Twilight Zone were very prevalent here. Some of that otherworldly kind of sci-fi music that they're also throwing in is excellent. And it's funny. he was like watching um it was when we had the he's barely in the spider suit actually yeah when he was fighting the spy when it was fighting as spider fighting mega watt i had the uh thought of like
Starting point is 00:11:17 it it's it's it's weird because it's not a one-to-one of spider man necessarily because it's it's leading so much with film noirism however if you look at like what a film noir private detective characters usually like it is very much this of a guy who's like a little bit jaded a little bit sardonic, kind of fast-talking, quipping, and then he usually finds his way into, like, doing a heroic act by the end. And I feel like we're getting, and that's very much Peter Parker to me in a lot of ways, though, of a man who feels more cursed than blessed, and finds, like, the sense of, like, the quipping is really natural when he's in the spider suit, because, like, the private detective characters are very much people who quip. And I love that this is a tremendous
Starting point is 00:12:05 based thing. They still managed to find the way to have him be bit because I was thinking who's experimented on. Yeah. And I was like, oh no, a big part of Spider-Man that was got to get bit by the spider. Quick question. When was the last time that you actually thought about fiber? I'm not talking about protein. I'm not talking about calories. I'm talking about fiber. During my cut last year, I was drinking Hewels several times a week because I needed something that was easy that could keep me consistent as well. And honestly, I started viewing fiber like a shield bar in a video game. I heard this analogy once because when it's full hunger doesn't hit as hard when it's empty suddenly i'm like going through the the kitchen cabinets and such with filming editing workouts and days where i
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Starting point is 00:14:06 That was so terrifying. I was so unpleasant. It's like truly like an uncomfortable visual to see. Like it looks like it's kind of like when I would, who was the fucking makeup artist of Alien? The makeup artist, Rick Baker. No, no, no, no. The one who did the makeup for, who designed the alien creatures. Oh, the, a Geiger.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Geiger, yeah. The design is Geiger. There's something that feels like erotically uncomfortable. Yeah. It's all in the crotch and such. That's fair, yeah. Geiger's art is all like dicks and vaginas, and you're like, why am I looking at this both ways?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah. I thought this was really awesome stuff. I was very pulled into it. It just hit me talking about Megawatt. Not only is the only one issue of the comic, making his appearance here 100 times as long as he appeared in comics, but they don't call him Megawatt and they even do Electro's origin, and they do a lot of fighting from the comics as Electro.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I think if they hadn't done that trailer and had that beat, I would have, I think they want people to feed the Electro. I think he's a lot, like, even more so than Spider-Man, where they're like, just don't say it. Yeah. And they're like, legally, you're like, it's not Electro, though. There's got to be a reason why they can't say it. I think there's certain characters that don't, that
Starting point is 00:15:13 are owned by different, like, you know, TV versus film. Like, we talk about Kingpin can't be on movies. I think he's probably one of those. Yeah, and that's a similar example. There has to be a reason why the editor-in-chief of the day of the vehicle isn't Jay Jonah James. Because this is Amazon. Not Sony. So I think Sony might own
Starting point is 00:15:29 Jonah, Electro, like certain characters. And like I'm wondering how that works with like an Amazon deal because Spiderverse Spider-Noir, but Ben Riley. Like there's a lot, I want to, it would be a waste of an interview with Lord Miller, but I would love the legalese of like, what was this dance?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, because it is fascinating. Just from someone that loves these characters, it's not like I'm trying to, you know, it's not a negative thing. I think it's really working. And I think that twist discussing, you know, you change your name. I think that's really inventive.
Starting point is 00:15:55 But just as someone that loves superhero culture, it's fascinating how we're, Talking about Hulk, we're doing our Marvel rewatch. And it's like, we watch the Incredible Hulk and it's the last solo thing we get because Universal owns them. And like, how's that going to work? This is also Sony Pictures television.
Starting point is 00:16:08 They've got like a deal. That's what's confusing me about it. But it airs on Amazon. Yeah. But Marvel made the Netflix show and the Netflix distributed it. So like Daredevil, the Netflix show was Marvel had to create it. And then they got the rights back to it. So like, how does that that's what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:23 How does it work? It is really strange. But they made it pretty clear that he's probably Peter Parker's done. Oh, yeah. Which is such a great spider person. And it's a really great way to cover it up because you're like, yeah, he would change his name. Yeah. Because he's hiding.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So he would change his name. And I'm like, I don't know why none of us ever even said that. And especially because that's what Ben Riley does. Like in the comics, Ben Riley changes his name because he doesn't have a name. So he picks a name. And Riley is Uncle Ben's, is Aunt May's maiden name. So it's a combination of Uncle Ben and Aunt May. It's Ben Riley.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah. And they do have the nod where he's like, my aunt gave me that. Yeah. One of the episodes. That's a really cool thing. Never talks about his mom and dad, but he talks about his aunt. So it's like he's got to be the same Spider-Verse one. So cool.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I think they said it was. I mean, but the Ben Riley name just confused everyone. Yeah, it's very effective. Yeah. I don't know. They play it so,
Starting point is 00:17:11 I think they just play everything so sincere in this series. Like, it's very easy to get caught up in a show like this and be so aware of what they're aesthetically doing in every frame or every moment. It was like when he visited Cat Hardy and her home. and was saying, why don't we get out of here? Let's just you and I flee together. And I had a little out of body moment
Starting point is 00:17:32 and being like, oh, yeah, this is a very film noir moment. The way he was lit was so things I've seen in frames like that. The way it was lit, the way the scene was going, progressing, but it was more than just an homage. That's the thing is like sometimes when things are just so heavy on homage, I'm just so aware of what they're doing. And I sometimes we get, I just get so pulled into this that I'm just in the world of it
Starting point is 00:17:53 that I'm not even thinking about how they're homageing it. And sometimes I'm like, oh, yeah. that's what they're fucking doing like they play it is the word authentic is uh is a was a word i think it's very much abused and uh but i find it like it's very authentic and it's execution i think yeah there are still some modern touches to it but yeah it does feel like very sincere and earnest and what they're trying to accomplish has there been any moments for you guys in these three episodes we're like dang i wish i could see that in color or you i've just fully surrendered entirely i feel like in these three i really surrendered i think in the last three i was kind of thinking
Starting point is 00:18:24 that a little more. Okay. I think the only part that I felt it was when he was in episode six when they're doing the trippy stuff. I'm like, wow, what did that look like in color? But other than that, I was like pretty locked in. I'd like to be more cultured, but I was thinking about the color. Were you? Still even at your time?
Starting point is 00:18:40 Not the whole time, but more than not. Oh, really? I just like, I'm not, I didn't grow up in black and white movies. I think this might be a generation thing. My parents were 16 when they had me, so I grew up watching 80s movies because that was their movies.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So my old movies are my like Top Gun and Lost Boys. Like because that's what my parents watched as teenagers. My grandparents had a color TV because they're only in their 70s now. Like I don't have a real access point. So I don't think I was ever raised in this environment. And I know that is very short-sighted.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And I totally can acknowledge that it's just a blind spot for me. But if you've seen 98% of your things in color, Black and white feels like just a removal to me. Yeah. So I just, I'm aware of it. It feels more foreign for sure. I understand that. Because I used to feel that way.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Like it's only in the past couple of years where I really started getting into black and white. I'm so late to it. Like I would feel that way of like, like, like, up until Olivia last few years. I would say Olivia did help because I, you know, she watches more of what I want to watch.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And every time she wants to watch something, it's some fucking black and white thing. And I would have that thing, though, where I feel disconnected. Especially when an existing color, it's not like, I mean, those things are only black and white. This is like, that's available. But when I started seeing, when I started seeing black and white productions that, because the thing is like with this era, a lot, I think what a lot of people actually don't realize is a lot, I forget around when, but they're like directors like Orson Welles, like third man and a lot of the horror monster movies, especially like Bride of Frankenstein. They do use a lot. And Hitchcock.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Hitchcock, he uses a lot. You start to see the modern day directors and where they're, and how they borrowed from them, even though it's in black and white. You're like, oh, shit, this shit's like way more cinematic than I thought.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Because I'm so used to associating black and white films with like the same two shots and like not doing much. Right. It's a lot of long shots. Because the camera was the size of a room. Yeah, they're just in the frame. They maybe have like two coverage. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:52 But then they, did evolve to a point while it was still in black and white where they were really was like wow it's like watching a modern day movie so i had i grew into it where i could i could get into this stuff um but yeah there was a i would say like there was definitely a time like a few years ago where i would not have really liked watching this in black and white i would say the first three i was thinking about it like i was thinking about a lot yeah i miss i was definitely thinking about it less but i can also acknowledge that i can't tell if i was more invested in the characters this time or if the pay
Starting point is 00:21:23 I'd gotten used to, or if they were starting to, like, you mentioned, the sound flourishes. And, like, I think some of the editing felt a little bit faster pace. But again, I can't tell if that's me adjusting, if that's me being more invested. Like, I think it was an amalgamation where I definitely thought about everything less and I was much more invested in, like, the show. My brain wasn't working nearly as often as it was the first bit. I would say there's way too many shots, though, that I'm watching. Like, honestly, the whole, the whole origin sequence, all the science stuff, I don't think I would have. I didn't think once about it in color. I'm like, oh, I would have, I kind of didn't. I don't know if I would even, I'm at that point in my life now where I'm like, I don't even know if I would like this in color because I like this, to me, this just feels so true to what it is. Then I have to, I mean, I want to, I will rewatch this in color.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I know I will. And because I'm just too fascinated to find out what the experience is like, but there are too many things where I'm like, I, I don't know, it seems like out of the three of us, I'm the most happy that we're watching this in black and white. when I really didn't want to watch it. It's only certain scenes, really. Like the scene where he's, like, tripping because of, like, the drugs and stuff,
Starting point is 00:22:31 but also the scene where he's fighting Electro. I was like, oh, what does this lightning stuff look like in color? I was like, because I'm like, yeah, when you think lightning, it's like this big bombastic. Yeah. I want to see evil, like, belly spider. Oh, that's going to be all colored and weird. That's what I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:22:47 But, like, I'm not upset. I wasn't even upset in the first act, but I mean, I'm not, I don't feel like I'm, I'm missing out. There were moments in the first section I felt like I was just not experiencing color. Now I'm experiencing the artistry of designing for black and white. And I'm only aware that it feels a little lately to me. But isn't the color like still, it's not real color.
Starting point is 00:23:11 No, it's like bespoke. It's color. They colorized it. Like when they would do that, like the I Love Lucy episodes. That makes it actually more appealing to watch in color. Honestly, just like because that's an art and it's really hard to sometimes pull that I think I've seen some of those, where they've done it with real black and white hair.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I think Amazon should have really stressed that because I think it's, it's not just color, it's bespoke color. I think Amazon should have made it clear like this isn't like we threw a filter on it. We made two things. Like we did a, we filmed it in color, made it like frame wise for black and white,
Starting point is 00:23:38 but then when we added color, we added individualized color throughout by upping stuff and painting. Like that's, that's so different than just like watching color TV. Yeah. So a lot of people think it was like when, but there's a lot of complaints in the color trailer that they, they think it's,
Starting point is 00:23:52 that's just how it looks when they shot it. And they're like, oh, it looks that way because they lit it really a certain way because they were lighting it for being black and white. But I don't think they communicate the language properly. They let it to be in black and white, but then they colored it in intentionally to look the way it does the way how they would do that. I mean, sometimes with I looosey look fucking on to me. It's a wonderful life.
Starting point is 00:24:13 They colorized. Oh, I've never seen that really. I've seen that in color and it's a fascinating experience. Is it? That's one of the few things I've seen in black and light and watching it in colors. Like, what are we doing? But they originally shot it in color so I can see how it would be easier to do it. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:24:27 You've got the camera technology we have now. Yeah. But I mean, Lord and Miller, come on the show. Because I'm curious about what decisions were made and like why frames were chosen and like what they changed. Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm honestly truly over the moon that I'm watching this in black and white on a personal level. I'm very excited to see. On a storytelling element, I'm really excited to see how the show ends because of how much I've not known what to anticipate.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I didn't expect an origin halfway through. I should have. That's such a thing you do. I didn't expect the betrayal from Black Cat. I should have. That's Black Cat. Like, they're doing really well by doing the mislead in all directions. So I genuinely, you know, I know Spider-Man will make it, but I'm curious how it ends.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah. The Fent Fatal caught between like the one who she really loves and the new main character detective. That's a real big trope too. I get a lot of them. I have a hard time remembering titles of movies. And that really like fucking shoots me in the ass in conversations. was the thin man he was watching
Starting point is 00:25:24 does this look like it that looks like it the guy yeah the guy looks like yeah the guy also they modeled flint marco after that guy clearly I mean obviously that's the look of the time it even looks like him I think it was the thin man they were watching that that picture classic looks that to me looks like a moment we saw with the actors yeah
Starting point is 00:25:39 yeah this movie was fucking hilarious my fiance is gonna love this because this is like the air oh yeah I was watching this going like oh louis he's gonna love this show yeah oh yeah I knew I would love Oh my god. Yeah. Finally,
Starting point is 00:25:53 you gotta find a convoy movie coffee. Finally a thing to get to their finally she'd be into.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah. Like, she loves this eyebrow style. Like all of this stuff. Yeah. Eyebrows style.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah, the eyebrows in that era were crazy. We've got a lot of art from this time and I'm always like, what is happening with the eyebrows? Because they're like so. So drawn in. Very thick.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. But yeah, I'm enchanted. I think is the right word for it. Like I'm, I'm enchanted by this tone in this world and it's very, very specific. but this was still the specificity of the first act
Starting point is 00:26:20 with a little bit more of like the sensibilities I was hoping for in the second. Yeah, totally cool. Well, that is going to do it for Act 2 of Spider-Noar. We'll be back soon. With Act 7 or episode 7 and 8, wrapping out Spider-N-War. Please let us know what you think in the comments.
Starting point is 00:26:37 If you're watching it in black and white or color, let us know. Let us know what your experience has been. I do believe there are other rejects. Yeah, they're doing the color version. They're doing the color version so you guys can chime in. that coy wishes he was a part of. Yeah, they're sitting over there in the class. I feel like they're in honors English.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And I'm like, oh, it's like to learn different. But let us know which one. This is way more honor. This is way more honored. And I'm struggling. All right. I should have been an English class. Here I am struggling to keep up in honors, but I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I mean, a lot of people, to your, to your defense, too, beyond just the film language, you're also out of anyone here the most who would understand colorist sensibilities when it comes to to comics and art and stuff way more than any one of us would. So you have a vastly superior knowledge and appreciation for like color itself.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Color itself being a part of the language. I know colorists. Like people that do that for and I mean, I've read Silver Age comics, but I didn't read a lot of comics in the 40s. So I'm very much in a colorful world. But I'm very curious what you guys' experiences in black and white or color in the comments below.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Let us know what you're thinking. Also narratively, Let us know what you're thinking of these characters, the twists, the turns, the reveals, the horror. Please let us know in the comments below and tune in for 7 and 8 real, real soon. And thanks for being here. Appreciate it. We'll see you soon. Bye.

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