The Reel Rejects - SPIRAL: FROM THE BOOK OF SAW (2021) MOVIE REVIEW! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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Starting point is 00:05:54 is like the SWAT team coming in and he had civilian clothes on. All right. Listen, I get upset. You all, I get upset. Why? He said, like that. Like, they couldn't see.

Starting point is 00:06:08 Okay. New music. New music at the end here. New music. New music at the end tier. Hey. I like the music. I don't like the movie.

Starting point is 00:06:18 But I like the music. Oh, man. Take it away, man. This is a little. It's disappointing. I think it's disappointing because, or for a few reasons, one being, there weren't a lot of saw in our saw movies. There wasn't a lot of traps. We did have. They were brutal. They're cool. Kind of different in a sense to the way that John and the other jigsaw would do it. They seemed like more contained, which that was an interesting choice, a little different, except for this last one was a little bit more extravagant, kind of what we, we'd be. come accustomed to in the later saw movies but i think for the most part and i feel like you kind of expressed a similar sentiment as we're watching it is kind of slow uh and kind of i don't know it didn't have that same sort of intrigue or same sort of thing that captures your attention because

Starting point is 00:07:10 when you come into a saw movie at least as we've experienced you come to expect certain things to happen it starts with the initial opening uh game and then it goes into what who's actually doing this while there's players learning a lesson while they're playing a game in addition to the cops trying to figure out what's going on as the games are happening and I feel like without that active element of what's going on on this side of the things it kind of creates the sense of yeah it drags it kind of creates a sense of this uh not having this balance not having this harmony that we've come to uh know over the course of these games also I feel like listen i like chris rock i think he's a funny dude and i've seen sargo fargo season four he's great in that

Starting point is 00:07:58 like he can really do this dramatic stuff if he really wanted to i think just the way i don't if it was the writing or the directing but i feel like there's a lot of things they wanted him to do but it didn't mesh well like the first third of the movie he was just like chris rock the comedian you know had like a whole bunch of bits okay he's like he's this funny dude but he also has this moral code but he also is just very angry and just like it just didn't mesh well and i felt their points were like we really want you to take chris rock seriously and i'm like no i can't because i just don't believe it and i thought the killer was really obvious for like most of the movie i know i was making a lot of guesses here and there but i feel like i was definitive

Starting point is 00:08:44 definitively locked in when they try to do the misdirection of he had his body skinned alive because one we've come accustomed to the fact that with these games there has to be some sort of lesson that the person who's being put into the games or being murdered is learning but with that one in particular there was no game it was just death and that doesn't track with the rest of what's going on and maybe that's just me as an audience member who's consumed these movies but I feel like with the people within this world if you know that this is a saw ripoff or you know this is a jigsaw ripoff

Starting point is 00:09:18 you should know or maybe I would think to I don't know study the behavior of jigsaw or like read the books or something because if you know that there's there's these sense there's this motif or there's this thematic thing that he's trying to achieve within those those games right

Starting point is 00:09:40 so it just doesn't really track well It was shot well I'll give it that The movie was shot very well But yeah It was kind of a disappointing thing for me Also in the Tiffany boxes We saw the kills happen on camera

Starting point is 00:09:56 And then a slice of that Tiffany box Body part being presented on camera The one part we didn't get Was the Charlie skin Which was like what he was saying Like we normally see a game And a lesson learned And that's like as soon as that popped up

Starting point is 00:10:11 It was like, wait, what? We haven't, we didn't see this, which made it a little more obvious. I think they tried to set up some of the glances and the looks around at the top. I think they were like trying to throw us off the set. I'm not sure who directed this or if they directed some other ones. But I do agree that in the beginning, it was a little slow. It did feel like a cop drama in the beginning. It kind of picked up pace once we got to.

Starting point is 00:10:41 game which was exciting. Sometimes even with the sauce stuff, I'm like, cool, let's slow down on the game aspect and let's get into the stories of the people playing it, which I really enjoy, which feeds off on the games a lot better. And this one was, I don't know if like when it would get to the game, it was pretty quick. And the buildup just seemed from the top obviously has to be a cop inside. There has to be a mole because we're just dealing with all these cops and and dealing with the backstory of like Chris Rock's character or being giving away a cop and his dad being the captain and then him and the new chief being like,

Starting point is 00:11:20 we'll take care of it. It just seemed to not even veer away from that even a little bit, which is why I think it felt slow in the beginning because we were like, oh, we're set in the foundation. This is a foundation. We know where we're going. We're not going outside of it. We're not even going to take a guess as to like,

Starting point is 00:11:39 could it be, wait, could it, we've, I mean, you kind of felt that way within the characters that we saw, but it was all, you knew that it was going to be a cop, like a cop that was close to him. And I think that's the problem that we never thought that it could be someone outside of his life or a cop that maybe it's a cop's wife or I don't know, anyone else in the outside world. It was all internal, which is fine. I just, uh, I don't know. The, You guys know, I think the last one I got really upset when the guy sets down the, you know, the mask as though he's been there because he sets down the mask from one and he says it down as though that guy has been there the entire time. Endings, when it's like that, I get upset and that's the thing that I remember. This one, what I'm going to remember is that 35 SWAT team members came in and that guy in the elevator going down with a gate closing, the SWAT's not going to.

Starting point is 00:12:39 going to be like hold that elevator who the F is this guy and that guy's going to get away and just say this is not okay with me this is not okay with me it's endings like that that I just go come on guys we have to give our audience something more of like I don't know a little more intrigue I think some respect you know she just like we're smart on I did think though that the Samuel Jackson being up on the on the puppet strings and then putting his arm up with the gun and then him being shot. I thought that was great. That's a great game, a great setup.

Starting point is 00:13:13 I loved that. Like that moment, I loved it. I was like, wow, that's a very smart thing. I wish that it was just set up a lot better for that like payoff to really, to really like hurt or guttily hurt us. And then also be more of a surprise as to who was setting it up. That was the only clever thing in the movie. I agree. That really was.

Starting point is 00:13:34 Like we didn't get, we still have not in these last ones, gotten the switch. where we went, oh, and we got that for a little while in the beginning. Those first few, yeah. We have not gotten that since, and that is upsetting to us because we've, we've watched these back to back, which most people haven't, we're going through them. And I hope that Ted, which we're going to watch, has some bait and switches or some surprises for us that we're not absolutely able to call it in the beginning. I mean, you called it earlier than me, but, like, when you asked him about the arm, I was like, this is weird.

Starting point is 00:14:13 He's, he's not dead. Like, that's, he just, he just, it's like a little piece of skin he put there, right? Like, this is a setup. And that was, yeah, I, you know. It didn't make sense. Yeah. It didn't make sense. Yeah, I think these last two were, both of them were kind of disappointing.

Starting point is 00:14:33 I think this one was more boring than, it was boring and boring. It was, I'm sorry. It was a boring in addition to being disappointing. And, yeah, because I think the last movie had better traps. Yeah. That was, like, very cool. And I feel like it was the trap aspect of things kind of harkened back to those earlier movies, which I did appreciate. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:53 But this one, the traps are cool. Very few of them. And I feel like the closest things we got to sort of the, like, for example, when he had to save or like he was put to the test of saving his. old partner that felt like something more akin to like the earlier saw movies like having our lead go through like a journey or a gotlet of experiences to teach them a lesson but yeah it just didn't utilize the games well and this movie was largely removed from all of the saw stuff from the original because at least there's like some semblance of connection but just like oh yeah i kind of know that guy and i like what he was about so i'm gonna do the thing that he was doing but yeah but

Starting point is 00:15:38 There's not as much intrigue because it's all very much in-house. And there's certain things that we did that, and correct me if I'm wrong, maybe you have a better memory on this aspect of things than me. What was the whole point of going to his ex-wife and talking about the kid and whatnot? Do you remember? There was no point except to go and talk to the wife to tell him that the partner was dead. And to establish that he had a kid that we never saw, never came back on. It never came back up.

Starting point is 00:16:08 I was trying to, as I was speaking it out, I was like, maybe I'll find a loop around. It never came back around. They didn't, I thought that they were going to use his son as a ploy, but they only used his dad. So they didn't bring it back around. But to your point, like with the games, I don't remember which one this is from, but remember there's a old woman and a guy tied together. And I think that guy did some shit.

Starting point is 00:16:32 Like she'll, there was some weird stuff. But when we saw that game and they were not. leads they're just a game in a part of that movie and i don't remember the number but i seriously felt for that woman and was like yeah let that guy die because i think he did some crazy ass shit and she just happened to me and she okay and she's had but i that game just popped in my head because i was like they weren't even lees it was just a game that we saw that i but i really felt for both of the characters because of the setup and the foundation these ones moved a little bit fast and for some like during the game i was like, I don't know if I care as much that it's, I already know that it's going to be all

Starting point is 00:17:12 cops who are dying and it all just seems to be because they're dirty versus the other ones, there was a little bit like he did some shit. He, he was touching people you shouldn't have and, you know, that you just go, oh yeah, I can't wait to see you die. And these ones were just like, yeah, great, you're a dick and dude deserved to die. Like you're a murderer basically in sheep's, in cop sheep's clothing. Yeah, because this more felt like revenge and the other traps, at least when John was doing it, his whole thing was about to teach a lesson.

Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah, it was like a violent ordeal to give somebody a chance of redemption in his eyes. Yeah, and there was none of that. They were just skipping right to it. Now I've kind of got it. They're just skipping right to it of going, and now the lesson you need to learn is because you shot someone and you must pull your fingers off or fall back and you'll be electrocuted.

Starting point is 00:18:08 And you're like, but what is the lesson that he's learning in between pulling off of his fingers and being electrocuted? We didn't get any of those cops saying anything, seeing anything, feeling anything extra for them, except the little foundation that we set up that's like you're a dirty cop, which gets old after a second. Yeah, the thing about, yeah, this one didn't feel like a saw movie. it felt like a dirty cop movie with the motif of the saw sort of theme to it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, because it was just like, okay, let's take this story.

Starting point is 00:18:45 Okay, what's the thing that gets people intrigued with this kind of story of the, because we've seen stories like this before in movies, you know, the entire precinct is dirty except for the main cop. Right. So like, okay, what's the thing to make people interested in going to see this movie? okay we'll make it a saw copycat and but they they did a saw copycat without doing any of the things that makes saw saw that makes saw interesting that makes saw not not divisive but like there's like a code to what he's trying to do and they like because it's a copycat they sort of

Starting point is 00:19:17 miss the the point of it I guess I don't know they I think they miss a point too because it's like they use the same game over and over the same people of like you're a dirty cop and it's like well, they've all, yeah, they killed innocent people. Like, we get it. But there's something about it that I, we didn't feel it with them. Like, and there's other ones where you're sitting there with that character who's about to die and you're like, I can't wait till you die. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:44 But like, you really feel it. In these for some reason, I was like, oh, I felt the game. The game is gross. There's people that you root for and there's people that you hate and you can't wait to die. And with these games, you felt none of it. None of it. There was no, like, push and pull of like, who's it going to be in why? shit why are we here with this person right now or why are we there and like who is setting this up is

Starting point is 00:20:05 it going to be revealed and it just sort of felt like yeah well I guarantee you one of these people we've seen on camera in the first 15 minutes is the person right it just felt that's what it felt like it didn't keep me in the beginning I was guessing a lot right I took a lot of guesses like in the first five minutes I was like they're giving weird glances weird looks and then after we went into it you kind of go all right I see what we're doing here Exactly. Which, yeah, it's, you know, it's disappointing. Let's hope that 10 is better and more fun and maybe puts in more of the saw games.

Starting point is 00:20:39 I would give, you know, this one probably a six. Yeah, I mean, I just, I wouldn't want to, I'm going to give it a six because I did really like that Samuel Jackson, the puppet thing. That was great. I love that. And also, you guys, what is up with the Easter egg puppet? pig thing in the butcher shop was just sitting there and no one noticed that except we did anyway I'll give it I'll give it a six and I hope the next one's better also if you guys are listening to this on Apple or Spotify I'm supposed to say this like 30 hours ago give this a rating so if you're

Starting point is 00:21:17 listened to this as a pod Cassie give us a rating please it super helps us um and yeah you shout out your rating Aaron let's do it you know I think the thing that made me like the saw movies was the and also the intrigue or like the the morality behind it and I another thing that would contribute to my rating would be the fact that what I recommend this to people or what I want to watch this again with somebody that I know and I have no desire to see this movie ever again so I'm probably going to go with like a 5.5 yeah I no five I'm taking it to a 5 because it's not only not connected to the other movies it just doesn't have any of the pizzazz or the intrigue of those other movies so yeah that's the five for me yeah i we're let's let's hope that

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The Reel Rejects - SPIRAL: FROM THE BOOK OF SAW (2021) MOVIE REVIEW! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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