The Reel Rejects - SQUID GAME Season 3, Episode 3 & 4 Breakdown & Review | Netflix | 오징어 게임

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Starting point is 00:02:49 something about assuming two episodes of thick TV that feel longer than a movie. That feel more than a two hour movie. And what it is just the length of a two hour movie. I'm like, wow, feel like drained right now yeah that's heavy holy shit that was heavy uh hey oh yeah real quick um prepper good luck a end is down thank you for for the hard work you do thank you and yes subscribe and leave a like i mean the lot uh but yeah man uh how you feel it i am uh i'm feeling this was a roller coaster of feelings because yeah I mean, we were talking early on about feeling hollow to some degree. And, I mean, I think in the first episode, I was probably more like over like more.

Starting point is 00:03:40 I got the sense that I was maybe more like cryy emotional. But I did get to a point at certain times where I did feel that kind of like hollowness after some kind of like heavy catharsis. And then you go into other facets of the show. that are more exciting and then are more pulse pounding and then you go into the depths of cruelty and twistedness and wackiness and all sorts of stuff. Yeah. And yeah, like I'm like rung out.

Starting point is 00:04:13 Like, you know, I feel like I just ran a, you know, for a half an hour straight or something like that in a good way. In like a, yeah, in like a fully engaged kind of like I'm being taken on a ride and being asked to think and being forced to feel and all sorts of stuff so uh i am definitely enthralled by this leg of the show and i would agree with what you commented earlier that this you know i liked a lot of stuff about part two as well

Starting point is 00:04:42 and i liked some of the heights that it went to but i do feel like this is a really tight and taught and effective stretch of the show that feels really well conceived in proportioned and it's like tight and streamlined and gut punching there's so many things to unpack but that's how I'm feeling right now how are you I'm feeling

Starting point is 00:05:06 good the downfall with watching the third episode is I've been feeling really positive today I'm like even this is not really going to take me down

Starting point is 00:05:23 right now it's good it's it that's good like more of that spirit is the game the second episode like really uh like i was really heartbroken at the end of this i was like crying a lot um and then this one i was like wow i really this is really messed up holy shit this is like aggressively mean and and there's something about that that doesn't quite break me because i think in the second episode i won't spend too much time on this i think in the second episode is that what gets me emotional is like the mixture of wow there's so much hard and then she's protecting her and they might get out of here and oh shit you know I think that like other side where this was just like bleak from the from the get-go and just stayed super bleak and that yeah I imagine I don't know I feel like that insecurity coming on of like when people are like oh Craig you cried a lot I'm just I started to get those comments now

Starting point is 00:06:22 of when I don't cry at something I thought you were going to cry more oh wow you're disappointed me girl like oh shit I come here for your tears to a lot of people have expected me oh no I did actually when uh

Starting point is 00:06:35 I'm sorry I did cry pull up that beautiful tear foot Jun Jung Bay when she when they cut to her on the ground that was really got me but yeah beyond that though

Starting point is 00:06:49 there is something but I really loved it I loved both these episodes a lot. It is very, very, I love the commitment to the dread. I love the commitment to how horrible all this is. Like, two, I think the reason I keep comparing it is because this is clearly a sequel to part two. Like, this is the other half of what they shot. And I think they changed a lot in editing.

Starting point is 00:07:17 I don't get the sense that went back and did reshoots. I feel like what they really made some. differences is in the way they handle the editing because the attention it like i really feel like i suddenly know these characters so much better and and i connect so much more with these characters now and uh the way it's pace it just really takes this time like even sometimes and insert the other time i really feel some of the stretching out is yes this voting they do take their time on the voting i don't really feel like we need to spend this much time know how it's going to and i guess that's the point but also yeah we could do other stuff yeah we could

Starting point is 00:07:57 churn this down a little bit man it's like a lot screen you know and and the other uh aspect and it but that plot finally got entertaining it just like it took a long time though to really because it that really started feeling stretched out with uh the detective and uh on this boat with finally like it became interesting once they started to investigating him and stuff so yeah like that that plot of that was the easily the most interesting part you know after after having him in the season one where he was so engaging as he's uncovering and doing detective work on the island and his undercover like that's so exciting and then to just have the same repetitive beat for so much of this it has been a disappointing side the one like

Starting point is 00:08:44 dangling aspect that doesn't feel like it matches everything yeah sometimes they cut back to it I'm like, it's kind of like weighing down the pacing a little bit here. Yeah, and I'm like, see, they're fully capable of making compelling stuff and for doing compelling things

Starting point is 00:08:57 of that character. And I'm surprised. I don't know what to make of that because. Well, they didn't even amount to anything really here other than like, oh, okay,

Starting point is 00:09:04 now we can figure out where the island is. What we suspected is, yeah, it feels like we needed to keep this character busy until the very end when it's opportune to get him back in there so that you can have a conversation with his brother when the games are finally over

Starting point is 00:09:14 and there are not like hundreds of people he's going to have to try and save. It feels stretched out and man, manufactured for that purpose so i'm like i'm not a big fan maybe you guys are and that's really cool if you've been enjoying it but this was the one episode i'm like all right that was that was that was really fun that was really enjoyable and exciting and um intense it was really intense and i would kind of describe that work for all of it so uh let me see if i have uh the names saved here i don't

Starting point is 00:09:42 know if i have the name saved here i had it pulled up the last time uh where would it be here we go uh-huh okay so jang jah i pulled it up but i don't even

Starting point is 00:09:57 pronounce it jung jim ja player 149 i feel like she should get an emmy nomination she has been remarkable

Starting point is 00:10:08 in this season in this whole show and her final moments like when a character takes their own life at this point i i i was there going like well what would she have to live for you know like how could you

Starting point is 00:10:26 live with yourself at this point and when she reveals her son's story of when he landed in the hospital himself and she felt like she pushed him there and now didn't not this time she didn't push him there she feels like she's the one who dealt the blow right um that was so sad and heartbreaking and it's like this crazy the orchestration out's come from her death and then the actual mom dying and no it's like he hunts responsible for this the way they i didn't expect the mom to die in the very next episode i didn't i really didn't expect that to happen at all but the amount of sacrifices for like the new life and i and i'm wondering like this this creator has kind of done a little bit of emphasis on some spiritual aspects there seems to be some like

Starting point is 00:11:16 well you know the societal commentary goes keeps going but those seems to be a little bit of like media commentary but then with with the baby i'm like okay i guess this is what this is all about yeah in some way i feel like there's like a big symbol around this baby that i'm not fully picking up on right now because once that thing of like i guess yeah you're you're born into this system you are you know you have no good or bad value in it even you have no guilt you've not done anything yet and yet already people are discussing what to do with you and figuring out the math of having you around and you know these rules of this game that has nothing to do with the natural world are now applicable to you no you know regardless of whether you opted

Starting point is 00:12:01 to be here or not and killing is killing like i'm wondering like thematically if it's posing that question of you know uh there's a the part in the bible there's a time to kill and you know you know he hung has been very anti-kill and only kill bad guys and stuff and he really feels like the people he's up against are just manipulated by the game in the situation but you know that when he killed the guy who posed to be a part of the navy like that was the first like he's killed he's killed people like the people in pink suits and shit in the game but that was the first murder you know like i'm gonna take this guy's life yeah and then he built this other guy you know on the bridge And now with this, like, it's crazy because he's, he's, he killed one guy in revenge and murder. And then he killed another guy to protect and save. And so he's like killing to protect, but does that make killing okay, you know? And there's, so there's like some things that I'm wondering, like, what are they toying with here? Because this baby element has become silly as hell.

Starting point is 00:13:10 It's a silly ass element. But then there's other times we're like, this is a scary ass. This is kind of brilliant, even though this is like kind of wacky. And strangely, I wonder if having the VIPs around to bat this around specifically is like kind of a good offset to that. Because like it does, I do admire whenever a show like this can dredge the depths that they are clearly, you know, capable of dredging. And then not lose us all when they do include something that is like way more on the nose and way at face value sillier. and yeah like the outlandish nature of having this baby involved at all

Starting point is 00:13:49 but going to the logical extent like it's a great device I think because it does kind of force you to imagine like if you just sat back and went what would happen if someone was born during this game well there's a number of options and you know you think of society and it's like well because this mom was here

Starting point is 00:14:07 already due to you know financial hardship the baby's probably going to inherent this so in a way like you know like all ready. As silly as it is, your brain, I think, hops to logicking it out, or at least doing the thought experiment. And I think

Starting point is 00:14:23 that's how it's able to earn such a choice. I just wish there was like, I mean, the players were freaking out, of course, selfishly. I do wish there was one moment of just someone being like, why are we discussed? Why should we even have this thing? This is insane what we're saying

Starting point is 00:14:41 right now. This is ridiculous. Yeah. On top of so much other shit that we're already putting up with this is ridiculous i mean the players did provide that essentially uh but it was very much like no you that baby's robbie yeah yeah you you kind of beg for one common sense character who's like hey i want to win all the money and i'm willing i'm willing to kill this kid too but i think it's weird that we have a kid here at all it's just just my two cents like they were so easily willing to murder a baby yeah yeah it's insane like they are they are cruel and villainous and bad so like yeah gie hun murder i mean i guess if when you know gie hun's

Starting point is 00:15:18 positioned in a way where he has to murder people while they're sleeping it's like these are the guys to murder you know they were willing to just take out that baby like no problem yeah and well that's the thing like that's what makes um you know's this is why this part of the season's good because it's making you action is doing what season one did where you're like debating what you would do yeah yeah exactly and that's the thing is like i think is like i think if it was any other circumstance I think this would have been handled differently, like in context of the universe

Starting point is 00:15:48 of the show. And I feel like this is a really effective way to demonstrate his point, you know, that yeah, it's partly the system that you're thrust into that incentivizes you to be like this, but there are so many points along the way and

Starting point is 00:16:03 in these episodes that we've just watched where people can choose where the line goes and how extreme they need to be about it. And yeah, it's like forcing Gihun to look at the situation and go, look, I have to kill this guy because otherwise he's going to, it's like a trolley problem. It's like either I just step back and, you know, don't interfere or this guy's going to kill like a whole bunch of people. And yeah, so many people choosing. I think that's, I guess, part of the drudgery of the voting scenes too is sort of really driving home the point

Starting point is 00:16:35 that like it's a bleak message about human nature, but there was just a certain amount of evil, I guess, that exists out there and like you know when there's always more money yeah and when things are gamified too when things are made competitive and cutthroat and you know and they're choosing to be like in season one they had no choice but to keep going yeah and this time they're choose they make the choice every single time to carry on yeah but yeah it's it's super late at night and there's so much uh we've had a very long day so let's go there some key highlight moments okay really quick minceu killing um the thanos worshiper oh yeah um i i doork that moment that was great that was a very rewarding moment i don't quite understand how the drugs work because i'm like

Starting point is 00:17:25 why is his come down like he's withdrawing like an addict of i want to and so i don't know how that works yeah i've never tried ecstasy or or it's variance but that's kind of what my base level of understanding he's something definitely stronger because he's like super dehydrated like MBMA or something Yeah maybe But it's not like tripping on or something When he's doing it

Starting point is 00:17:49 But it is kind of like things are Oh he was stripping out He was seeing the boy's face Yeah he was so that's true He was actually hallucinating a little bit I was gonna say like to observe Numgue or whatever the other guy is called Like you know he's jumping around

Starting point is 00:18:01 He's very like bubbly and sensory And like he's like very gleeful Yeah So yeah part of me is like I don't know does it just feel make you feel light and invincible or yeah are you tripping hard i'm surprised he made it through though i mean good for him yeah uh yeah he's in in a bad way i mean it's a great moment i love that um surprise min sue made it this far but i like how they've been morphing his character seems like it took all of his energy to do that yeah and now's out jengbe uh her

Starting point is 00:18:30 performance uh incredible yeah too like uh again really really connected uh with her this time around and her death moment was heartbreaking. It's like you think she may be like a Virgin Mary situation. And then it's not like he, Gihon's a Joseph still, but there's no Virgin Mary around, right? Yeah, and they have you bargaining through that whole thing. That was really interesting the way to handle that

Starting point is 00:18:53 because it's like a foregone conclusion. And through the hide-and-seat game, you're like, this is not going to go well for her. And through that whole scene, you're like, but he can make it back. Yeah. Or something can happen. And like, nothing was going to happen except what happens.

Starting point is 00:19:05 I've loved the games in season. two still like the rooms and the one we're doing four i love those games but they never really rose to the impact of any of the games in season one even when season one's games are much simpler yeah but they never quite rose to that and i thought like oh my just be from novelty or whatever this jump rope game i'm like no this is one for the books like that is one you won't forget that's a highlight game for sure like the game construct is amazing i i did not anticipate that's what it would be when they teased what it would be and the way narratively, too, how they worked it in with the one guy trying to knock them all off and then Gihon killing.

Starting point is 00:19:48 And I love the way they staged at how Gihon first gets the baby. You're excited. You feel like he's just going to run back and you don't even see them crossing the bridge, turns around, and they're already going. And you notice he has to, like, wait this shit out. Yeah. It was so well done. Like, the game was exciting. The practical and the CGI was really.

Starting point is 00:20:07 really cool. It's a game where you as an audience member, like, I think I can do this. Yeah. I lock in. It's all about timing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I can do this. Like, it looks like possible and it still felt like a kid's game, but the, you know, the one that's like crazy and it could lead to your death. That was

Starting point is 00:20:23 the part that I was missing in the last game where it didn't feel like tag. It felt like give people with knives and kill. Yeah. This felt like a kid's game still. But the sinister hell version of it. I loved, loved that game. I talked a little bit about it. your own thoughts on it.

Starting point is 00:20:38 Oh, yeah. I don't want to hog all of it. No, no, I just, I would agree. Like, it is the most striking and it takes it back to that, like, grand scale simplicity. And it's, it's nice because it feels like one of the games where it's like a saw movie where I think sometimes the line for fans is like, okay, well, what's one you could actually survive, but also seems like a legitimate challenge versus one where you're like, who could do this?

Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah. And, yeah, like, it's really well conceived. And I think the device, too, to have the two kids back and the sing-songy. and having this be the one that all the VIPs are watching. Like, the show does stuff in its text to bolster the sort of fanfare of like, oh, this is not just any average game. And it is, yeah, a spectacle. And they make a lot of, you mentioned that, like, 300 style, like, you know, kick into the pit.

Starting point is 00:21:23 Oh, he really wanted to do action. I mean, I picked up on that at the end of season two. Yeah. This season, I'm like, this guy really. I mean, a lot of his shot, he's done a lot of those cooler shots and sound effects and shit. And then the amount of, like, name dropping them. marvel and stuff that's been in here like this guy really wanted to like make an action movie this stuff yeah because i don't associate that all it's good games season one i don't i don't think

Starting point is 00:21:46 that even though they have like the knife fight at the end which but that feels like raw and real and i feel like this season would probably make something kind of cooler out of it yeah yeah yeah more stylized yeah um so i i'm enjoying that the dinners i like that there's a big group of like evil people so they even though you're going through the similar stages they mix the dynamics this scene with Gihun and oh my God front man's name

Starting point is 00:22:11 Holy fuck Inho scene with Guyon Inho that was that's true to the character I believe of Inho because he lost his baby

Starting point is 00:22:20 so it's true to that and and the way Guyon's reaction in that moment with like what he's done in part three of this show

Starting point is 00:22:32 would primarily body language such limited dialogue has been incredible and in a typical scene like gotta be like you know uh you know it's like fucking dialogue and like

Starting point is 00:22:44 you have every reason to actually help me yeah yeah that but you won't get away with that nothing said just belief like it is it is this psychological break of what they've done to Gihon you know and I I'm starting to understand

Starting point is 00:22:58 really what they I was wondering that like what's really his arc in like season two there's not much of an arc other than he like he loses you know And then here you're watching that pay off of like, we are breaking this man down. And in his pursuit of being a hero who is becoming more of a monster. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:16 And he's like realizing the reality of the world is it's like he's starting to conform to in host belief system. Yeah. Of people. And, you know, I'm really afraid he's going to come back at the very end of this season with a fresh K-pop hairdo and then just pull that mask down. Yeah. Yeah. Because, I mean, you know, I have faith that he will have some kind of, you know, clinging to his better angels, his righteous motivations. But also, like, yeah, I mean, this has kind of emphasized the point.

Starting point is 00:23:51 And I'm fascinated to see where the show itself outside of that lands, thematically. Yeah. Because this could end very bleak. It's already quite bleak. Yeah. I'm waiting for I've really enjoyed the performance of the person playing 11

Starting point is 00:24:08 and it might just be because like what's going on in the actual games has been so engaging and and so intense and I I don't know if there's something that I feel like needs a little more meat

Starting point is 00:24:27 on the on the story of what's going on there it's always really cool to watch and I'm always intrigued. Yeah, and I want her to live. And I want him to live. Like, I care enough. Yeah, but I'm also like the impact of it's weird. I think it's it is more compelling and engrossing

Starting point is 00:24:44 in total than the June host story. Oh, that's a person. But yeah, it doesn't feel completely attached to everything else. It feels more like, what else is going on around here? You know, and there's this other thing that's happening, you know,

Starting point is 00:24:59 amongst the pink suited guys, which is, which I like but uh and you know i can see how it factors into aspects of the greater you know thematic elements of the show but as like one of the major plot lines you know it's weird the june ho one at least very clearly connects to everything else whereas this feels a little more tangential yeah like there was uh like we have to do something different or interesting i don't know i was really i've really been enjoying it but it i guess i am starting to feel what you just said right there curious as to what this amounts to yeah if anything significant at all um but i guess maybe what they're doing is you're showing um people who are coming good turn bad and you're watching

Starting point is 00:25:45 people who come in bad turning good i guess yeah might be like thematically what they're doing well and and yeah i i suppose like because you have you know the games in which you have ostensibly innocent people coming in and yeah being corrupted or being encouraged to access their baser instincts. But she's there to kill people. Yeah. That's like her main job is kill people. Yeah, it almost feels like she's here to do a similar thing to Gihun

Starting point is 00:26:10 just in a very different fashion from a different side of the system. And I think it is, I can see how it would relate to, again, the crescendo of the episode, the whole idea of like, I'm, when Inho's talking to Gihun, and he's like, you know, I'm trying to help you in a more effective way. You could probably win the game. somehow and achieve something you came here to do in the game more so than you could killing me and trying to continue up the ladder and maybe it's a similar thing of like maybe I can put a dent in this operation from the you know other side of the curtain inside the apparatus

Starting point is 00:26:50 or something like that yeah yeah I wanted to see if there's any consequences to what they do with the bodies and the black market selling and stuff like that or as a It's a side door spin-off pilot thing. I think one day they're going to try pressure into doing, like, the first squid game and, like, get a young Il-Nam and stuff. Yeah, you can already see it, can't you? Yes, I can. It's like a slightly a period piece.

Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah, it's very slight. And we dive into his backstory of why he loves games and why he also needs to teach people these lessons and, you know, create this most dangerous game. The billionaires are always fun, the crazy billionaires. But damn, they are, it is, the dubbing is rough on that. It is a very strange acting. It's very so specific because it's, it carries on from season one. It's like the exact same thing, but.

Starting point is 00:27:45 I really want to know who they get. But even more one dimensional. I'm like, is this, are these, are these English speaking actors that the director, you know, or the, you know, showrunner knows and likes to work with or like, I don't know. I'm very fascinated because, you know, it seems like all there, they have various accents and stuff. Yeah. But it is more so than the last time this one felt like, okay, that guy's voice feels like it's actually coming out of his mouth. These couple of people feel like they were looping themselves.

Starting point is 00:28:14 She and one of the other guys at least feels like totally other actors are voicing these people. Yeah, the woman and the guy would like a different accent. Yeah. It's not American or something else. It's like French or something. I don't know. Scandinavian or something. Ah, no.

Starting point is 00:28:28 It's silly fun. so like regardless i thought both were very all stories even when they're a little bit on the lower and it was consistently entertaining this is the most entertaining from uh the detective on the boat story that they finally done uh the emotionally and psychologically engaging the way the affect and the debate is going is reminding me a lot of the feelings of season one so um whereas like season two i felt like it wasn't like thought provoking you know it was just kind of going through a plot and the machinations it's got to do to fulfill the contract. But this has been like, oh, this is why squigling is popular.

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