The Reel Rejects - STRANGER THINGS 4x4 REVIEW!!!

Episode Date: August 23, 2025

With Stranger Things 5 on the way this winter, it's time for Tara & Andrew to continue their marathon with their Stranger Things Season 4x4 Reaction, Recap & Breakdown! Netflix’s Stranger Things, created by the Duffer Brothers, continues to be one of the most beloved sci-fi horror series of the decade, blending supernatural suspense with heartfelt coming-of-age drama. Set in the 1980s in Hawkins, Indiana, the series follows a group of kids, teens, and adults as they battle the sinister forces of the Upside Down. In Season 4, Episode 4, “Dear Billy,” Max Mayfield (Sadie Sink, Fear Street, The Whale) takes center stage as she struggles with haunting visions from Vecna. Her emotional letters to her loved ones and the unforgettable climactic sequence—set to Kate Bush’s “Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)”—have already become some of the most iconic moments in television history. Meanwhile, Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown, Enola Holmes, Godzilla vs. Kong) confronts the painful memories of her past under the supervision of Dr. Owens (Paul Reiser, Aliens, Mad About You) and Dr. Brenner (Matthew Modine, Full Metal Jacket, Weeds), while Joyce Byers (Winona Ryder, Heathers, Beetlejuice) and Murray (Brett Gelman, The Other Guys) track down Hopper’s (David Harbour, Hellboy, Black Widow) imprisonment in Russia. This episode is packed with emotional stakes, supernatural terror, and one of the most famous needle-drops in recent TV history. Join Tara Erickson and Andrew Gordon as they break down all the thrills, scares, and tear-jerking moments in this landmark episode of Stranger Things! Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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but that might have been one of the best or one of the best, for sure. Bravo. Thank you, guys. If you're listening to us on Apple or Spotify, give us a five-star rating, do all the things on YouTube. like, subscribe when you do, ring the bell, ring the bell. So you're notified of all the videos we are dropping. We're going to get into our questions.

We always have quite a lot for the stranger things. We appreciate that from you guys. So let's start it off with Tiffany S. 1983. Hi, Terran, Andrew. I love that I get to see your reactions to one of the greatest TV shows. After watching episode four, do you think Max will make it to the end of the season? So do you have any theories on who Vecna is? I mean, I thought, I hope, I hope Max is.

So I'm going to continue to be hopeful. I really thought this was the end, especially when they were showing the memories. The title being Dear Billy. Fantastic subversion, for sure, was really satisfyingly done. I thought Vecna was originally Victor Creel. Like there was some way of supernaturally, like being that human. So I guess I wasn't paying enough attention to know that he was the family that was there in the 50s.

Now I fully understand that. that's who Victor Creel is and that he was the family and then he went insane after what happened his family right incredible backstory by the way and i'm so glad they got robert england he's one of my favorite actors one of my favorite uh and he portrays one of my favorite horror characters of all time so that was like so like and i've gone through that whole series and i didn't even know until yeah yeah yeah for sure but i mean i've to be fair i've seen those movies like 20 times yeah it's uh but still uh i don't i i truly have no clue as to who it could be like in regards to any if it might have been a character we've seen in the past or in this i don't know it's carrielle was it's the mayor from season i i don't know i truly have no one interesting yeah i i really don't know is all i know is i'm sure we might get a question of it so just really quickly this was one of if not the best episode all the moving parts in this episode absolutely incredible the way it was able to bounce i mean you had a hopper trying to escape

the thing about this episode there was so many size of relief at the same point of building a suspense and then at the same time adrenaline rushes as well and this episode was really able to balance all that out while at the same time it felt like a movie almost I know it didn't have the length of time of a film

but like the different segways of subplots that were going on that felt so important they didn't feel like subplots everything felt so important Mike Will Jonathan and Argyle escaping Hopper trying to escape from prison as well Then you also got Joyce and Murray being

With Yuri, the piece of crap After he backstabbed them with the deal And then you got obviously what's going on with Max Which is so damn important in the entire episode That's like really hovering over the entire episode Also we got the whole Victor Creel thing with Nancy And with Robin which I love that scene by Robin This is the best episodes I've ever seen

Yeah. That was incredible. But what about you? Who do you think? What do you think about Max and Beckna? I assume Max will make it to the end. I'm only saying that because I, I, as you guys know, I don't remember anything. My assumption with Max is that because we've already saved her, that she's out of harm's way, but maybe not. I don't know. It's weird that Beckna was like you belong here with me, but I feel like he says that to all of his victims. and I don't have any theories on who Vecna is. I really have no clue. I just, my only theory has always been that somehow we're going to, we got to go back to D&D, and that's how we're going to kill him. Yeah. Something to do with Dungeons and Dragons.

I don't think it's going to be what's his name, the one who she called Papa. Oh, no. It can't be him because it's from. Matthew Modin. Yeah, Matthew, Matthew, Mademe, because he's from the, it's from the 50, he was in the 50s. Right, he's got to be old, right? Yeah, it's got to be old. I really just, I don't know.

I'm, again, I'm so interested to find out who it is. Maybe I shouldn't look up the actor then, because I don't want to know. Don't look. Yeah, I'll wait till the season's over. Yeah, no, don't look. I was just curious who was voicing the actor, so I will wait until the season's over, and then I will take a peek at who the actor is, so I will definitely wait. Okay, from Mark Leach, thank you for being a royal reject on the question.

Episode 4 is one of my favorite episodes of TV I think it's not just about a character I love being It's not just about a character I love being in danger But also we've already seen in the horrific way In which they would die Which adds to it, definitely

My question is what would be the song Someone would use to save you If you knew, we were talking about that I said I don't even know My favorite song It's a tough question to save me I can tell you what my favorite movie is The Shawshank Redemption

So if someone had to play my favorite movie to save me would be that and the Jaws is right there as well as Terminator 2 my favorite song it would probably be like currently probably be something from Noah Kahn you know what it would be an 80 song probably

I just can't think of what like maybe thriller Michael Jackson that's a really good one but if it that's the song with lyrics but everyone knows I love movie score music so if it was something from a movie score I would say the movie Kingdom of Heaven That's my dad's favorite

One of his favorite movies And also I've listened to the movie score Because he plays it over and over And I've just listened to it on my own It's one of the best movie scores I've ever heard That would bring you back to life For sure It would

That score is so damn incredible It's epic, it's sad It has all the feels to it So I would say if you see me being If you see Vecna like coming at me I would say put that music on Would I love that. that. I would say anything by Noah Kahn, probably not six season, although I'd be okay with that,

but probably you're going to go far. If you know, you know, that's a great song. But honestly, that entire freaking album, play one of those songs that will bring me back to life. I've literally been listening to Noah Kahn for the last three years, almost on repeat, which is a little wackadoo wild. So anyway, thank you for the question, Mark. Hustini. Oh boy, here's a big one. What are your thoughts on Max's struggle with Vecna and her feelings about Billy? And the idea that Vecna's curse is a metaphor for depression,

as well as pure cinematography of the Max Vecna scene. This is one of my favorite episodes of Stranger Things, and it never fails to make me cry at the end. Yeah, I think Max's struggle was done very well. I mean, the fact that because of everything that, first of all, just before I even get to Max, this is in regards to Max, everything that these kids deal with, they have to keep repressed because they can't let anyone know, first of all, you know, in fear of panic, number one, and also the government tells them they have to keep their mouths shut. And I get it. But also, too, they're very young as well. So, like, having to repress these type of feelings. And especially when it comes to someone like Max, she had a horrible relationship with her brother. She had a very abusive stepfather. Max, Billy had a very abusive father, and he took out a lot of that rage and anger onto Max.

So just based off of that, she's got a lot of trauma. And the fact that, like, you know, obviously her relationship with Billy had not been repaired, but he sacrificed himself in a very noble way. And she can't tell anyone that. And she has to repress it. She can't even, I mean, she can't even talk about it with the people that know the truth, too. And she kind of just pushes everyone away. so if anything like the whole situation has just really affected her in such a negative and

an awful way and you really feel that in say sadie pink yeah sadie sink i'm so sorry your camera she just does an incredible job like her again her emoting and the way she facially expresses herself it's absolutely like she she could not even say anything and i would know exactly how she's feeling just does an incredible job emoting and her visual narration is outstance one of the probably might be again i know a recency bias but this might have been her best episode acting wise she's done an incredible job up to this point i remember in the first five minutes of the first episode that she joined in season two i was like i really like her her free spirit her rebellious side kind of like robin when she struck a chord with me too uh because you got to

stick out especially in an ensemble like this you know what i mean it's easy to get lost in the fray and i remember in the first five minutes as i just mentioned she really stuck out and but this episode She went to another level in terms of her acting prowess. And I love the way the character's written. And I think I'm so, I think we and also us as the audience, so damn emotionally invested in the character. Like, I was really on edge. And I was really actually starting to,

I really thought this was the end, especially with the way this averred to me with showing her memories there too. And like no one has really survived. Vecna when he gets you in the cross stairs. Grant Chrissy and Fred are not main characters like a max. But still, showing flashbacks like that, I figured that's got.

to be the end and also too the way the cinematography and the effects were doing too just very inventive and also scary at the same time so I like how they were able to blend those two things at once but I thought everything about this episode was great especially the way they handled Max and I was on edge and the way they really let the episode breathe and take their time and getting us on edge was really great as well yeah my thoughts on Max's struggle with Vecna is that I do agree with the cinematography in that world. It did look amazing. But I think what really pulls you back in in regards to her dealing with Vecna

and also writing to her brother is that, yeah, we did remember them at a really like hatred time where they were kind of fighting against each other. But the main thing that is in her brain is Billy stepping in front of that monster and it goes right through him. like it's his sacrifice, which is just, it's wild, it's bittersweet, it's like, oh, it's, and, you know, like what he was saying when she saw Billy down there, that she's, you know, wrecked with all of this guilt, which I also think is in link to what you're saying, like it's a metaphor for depression. I think obviously when we did see Chrissy and others, and in high school, that's going to run rampant. So I do agree with that. It's going to be easier to get to people, like I said, who have a hard time. And if they have depression, there's a way to, like, get in there a lot easier for Vecna, right? It leaves sort of an open door there, which I do think, yeah, it's a great inventive way to show off how many kids, whether you're in, like, middle school, high school, hormones are going, and there is a lot that a lot of them and a lot of us.

even now, that you deal with depression, which can really suck. It can be a little demon on your shoulder, and it can be tough to sort of swipe away. And I really like that the favorite song can bring you back, because that is a thing that when you think about music, music really does save the soul. I believe it, 110%. And what actually does help me is anytime I get to play my guitar and say, sing or just saying in my car and listen to music. So I like this question and I absolutely agree and I got very emotional at the end. I think it's a beautifully written episode and I think it comes

right at the right time sort of in the middle where it's a culmination of all these stories that we've been watching building a foundation on for the past three episodes and now we get where we're seeing them all sort of start to form. And I thought it was really great. Thank you for the question. All right, from Ryan McKenna. Hey, Terran Andrews, so happy we

and Max survived. Me too. Since I think it's a little too on the nose to ask what your song would be to fight off, Beckna. Instead, I'll ask, who on the real rejects team would you pick to figure out your song? Lucas knew Max well enough to figure out Kate Bush

would save her. Who on the team has the best chance to figure out whatever your song may be and save you from Vecna. Well, it has to be Tara now. I just told it. Yeah, right? I guess if it wasn't Tara now, I mean, Greg and John, I do have discussions with them about, like, how obsessed I am with, and you guys as well, with movies score music and 80 songs, but, I mean, I live with Aaron, so I would hope he would know at this point.

He's got to know. Yeah, so I guess by default, I got to go with my roommate, Aaron. Yeah, I would go with Roxy knows that I love Noa Khan. I don't know that she would play that. Also, I don't know. I think that she would go, what in the actual F? Why would you pick me? And then maybe just sit and think about it for a second.

And I feel like she would probably be like, Noah Khan. Bring me back to life. Okay. Thank you. Did we answer? Yes, we did. Yes, we did. Yes, we did.

Melissa Taylor. Hi, Terran, Andrew. I've been waiting for you guys to get to episode four. There are many reasons to love this episode. What is stuck with me the longest is that Max's ordeal with Fekno reveals how much Elle means to her. Other than Lucas, her memories of Elle are a major factor in what gives Max the strength to fight for her life. It seems as though Elle would have had a much easier time navigating the world of petty teenager girls with Max by her side. I agree. And in turn, Elle is the one. friend who would truly understand the trauma Max is dealing with, yes? And if someone Max would have relied on and opened up to, true. For a show that initially centered on the bond of these four boys, what do you think this is saying about the power of

female friendship? Obviously, it's saying a lot because they went with Nancy and Robin again, and they had Steve come in where he goes, wait, you need like my charm. I can't be a freaking babysitter again. Like, what in the

actual F like let me let me help with this um and i i said it in the last episode that i was like i want to see the girls stick together and it was so like uplifting when we got to see max with l because l needed that she needed that to also to communicate with mike and to the rest of the boys and i absolutely agree with you that if max had l by her side even without her powers that i think that that would have just helped her so much to even open up to her friends before Lucas had to like beg her right because he was like I don't want to let her just talk to me talk to your friends please and I think that she probably would have opened up to Elle and I do really like the the power of the female friendships with Robin and Nancy which is an unlikely

friendship that we didn't see coming, especially with Nancy going, giving her sort of the cold arm when they first got together. But now that she knows her, they're buddies. And I love it. Yeah. I agree with everything you said. And I mean, it's kind of like a little bit of the quote as well that I said earlier, divided we fall. Together we conquer. And yeah, she's got a lot of incredible memories that she has with and without her powers, right? I guess not a May without her virus because she kind of moved away. But still, the point stands that, you know, L understands her in a different kind of way in which Lucas can't.

And I think, you know, hinging and holding onto those memories, especially in when you're in such a depressed state, can help you get off of, like, distract you in a way to where you can shift your focus onto those happier memories. So I think absolutely you and Tara are absolutely on the right track here, that that would have definitely helped her granted the music definitely you know is something too to to hinge off of that will take you to your happy place too but it certainly would help and i do also love that the relationship that they have formed as well with robin and nancy i did not see that one coming but i love that they are forming these types of relationships because again like i think the

relationships with the entire core unit and with the four boys i like that they've segues and we've talked about before too just straying aside for a second from the females friendships, which is I know the essential part of the question here. But I love how the show has just delved into just relationships in general with like different characters. You got Dustin and Steve. You got Erica and, I mean, I can pick up different factions. You got Erica, Robin, and Steve and Dustin. There's so many different factions of cores that work. You got Mike and Will. You got Jonathan and our guy. There's so many different types of... We just need Joyce to get some female

friendship, right? I was going to say, who could choice have a female friendship with? That would be interesting to see, don't you think? Yeah, maybe her future daughter in the lowly, I guess, but maybe too young to be like her bestie best friend, but I don't know, she'd have to find someone, but still, like, I do think that is an integral and important point you are making. I think they're saying that it is important to have, of course, and again, she can just understand her in a way that the other boys, you know, can't. So, and I think that was, and also, too,

like, because Elle was such a fish out of water and there were so many things like that nuance that the boys didn't understand. So I think their friendship, like, has a lot of deep meaning. So it definitely would have been big and she would have been a strong factor had she been here for her. But I can't wait for them to reconvene and get together. So it's, yeah, I'm looking forward to that a lot, though. get there we will that one yeah okay all right from hope hi terran andrew so glad you are finally at episode for this episode in my opinion is one of the best episodes of the show i would agree with that i think terra would as well yep the cinematography in the end with the built up intensity and the timing was so incredible pacing was awesome yeah i think it was so well done i wanted to know

what you guys thought about it and how would you say the show has grown in creativity Since season one, I mean, yeah, I was also thinking while we were watching that moment as well, I'm like, I'm probably assuming she survives too. I'm probably going to rewatch it just for the visuals and the emotion I am feeling right now and the music. I'm just, everything is just hitting me in different kinds of ways right now, but the spectacle and the scope is here as well. So in regards to inventiveness and how they, you know, just got everything like flowing, absolutely nailed it. and Vecna is such like you really always feel the stakes with this character too like I like that our main characters you really always feel that they're in danger and not a lot of shows and movies can do that like you always have the canon fodder you know the side characters who are not as important you know that they're probably you know going to die most likely can happen whenever but when you can feel that our main characters are truly in danger and it could happen at any moment I think like it's a feel thing you know it's a tonal and feel thing and when you can feel that I think like like it really ups the ante on the show or the movie. And like I have felt that from minute one.

So what I would say is like from creativity from season one, I've always felt that way. But it feels like it always goes up a notch each season where I'm like I really feel even more scared for these characters as we go along. In regards to creativity, I just love the different time. And we've talked about this before.

I love that they always come up with different times and themes for each season. I think season one was Christmas time. I think it was Halloween. No, season two was Halloween, right? Oh, okay. And then season three was like Fourth of July. Yeah.

And then this season's, what's the season for this? I think we're getting close to Christmas. Oh, is it? Well, either way. I just love all these different themes. And again, just being such a diehard 80s fan. I mean, I love that they're sewing that. Maybe we're getting back to Halloween again.

That'd be fun. And then also, too, creatively. Yeah, I would love that. You know us, Halloween. But I would also say creatively, too. I like how we're going from the as much as I, I love seeing all these demons and monsters. I like that as, and I know that Vecna is a demon too,

but I like that he, or the Dark Wizard, but I like that he's actually like, he's got a voice and he's got eyes and he can talk. So I think, like, that gives, like, it gives, like, more of a spook factor, you know what I mean? So he's more intimidating in that way, but what about you? Yeah, I did think that this episode was obviously one of the best of the, of, I assume the season, but we don't know, we haven't seen the whole thing.

And I think about the creativity is where we're going with season four is that L has zero powers. Imagine focusing on like the whole height, the whole core of this is like 11 and she's got powers and she can do stuff, right? And her relationship with Hopper and then the kids, that's where we start. And right now, she's thrown out of there and she doesn't have any powers. So with the creativity being there, it's awesome because now we're able to explore the foundation of L just being a student in middle school, being bullied, feeling like crap, does she have friends,

having a boyfriend, she's trying to impress, right? And now, because she doesn't have power, she turns to violence, which is like, yeah, it's a human, it's just a human reaction. It's a rage reaction. And it's nice seeing that. And then we, you know, and we go back to obviously now that all of her friends helped save her and will in the first few seasons. They're all very aware of this sci-fi nature stuff.

And so now it's like we're all experts in a way in this new season that can handle the aspects of like, cool, we know what this is. It's Vecna. How do we get to him? Where is he from? Is it Victor Creel? like that's really cool to see without 11 being necessarily the core and she wasn't even in this episode she was oh yeah L wasn't in it and also Eddie wasn't in this episode I know and look at all that happens like the best episodes and that's what I'm main characters of this season are not in the episode and that's what I'm talking about in growth with creativity is we didn't even have the main character the core of this show in this episode and the episode was phenomenal. Good point.

We didn't need it because that's what strong writing does. That's what when you write and you give a good foundation and you have us care about each one of them, not just one, then when you give us a story without that like main core, we're still in love with it. So good job. All right, Tim Porkroll. That's a cool name.

I like it. Tara and Andrew for episode four without even watching this reaction. Now Andrew's going to love seeing the Great Robbins. Robert England as Victor Creel. If Stranger Things wasn't ending this year, who's another horror movie icon you would have loved to see in this show? Also, Tara, I'd love to take you up

in your offer from the episode one reaction to get you and Andrew Hellfire shirts just saying, oh my God, Tim Porkroll, please get us, Hellfire shirt. I'm down, Tim. You could send it to our office, I think. Another horror icon I would love to see on this show. I mean, I'm going to give the easy

I'll get the easy answer here. Since we're doing Freddie Krueger-esque this season, Nightmare and Elmstree, let's go with Jason Voorhees, right? They did fight against each other in 2003, so let's go with Jason Voorhees. What about, although... He's Swamp Boy, right? No, he's not.

He's not Swampyke. I'm talking about Camp Crystal Lake. But I would also, I would go after that, if I had my secondary pick after that, would probably be Michael Myers. Although I know, again, he doesn't talk, but still, I think that'd be a fun choice. What about you?

I'm going to go with Swamp Boy, or, uh, I, I really think it. Like, let's freaking go with Pennywise, dude. That, duh. Pennywise would actually work in this universe because he's got the supernatural bills and he likes to mess with. Oh, don't I know it? That, he likes to mess with kids, bro.

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And I think we agree with you. We do. Not just the ending with Max, but the hopper escape. Yeah, that was great. There's so much of this episode. Oh, my goodness. The one shot in the bottom. Myers' house with the military.

You called that. Yeah, I said, we're still rolling. And the cameo of Robert England himself. What was the most shocking or emotional moment for you in this episode? I mean, you bring up some great points. I'd say, God, it's hard.

Emotional, Max, no doubt, because I really thought she was going to die. And so the fact that she was able to survive, and again, I'm so emotionally invested, and I love this character so much. I love how active she is, and I love how much, what she stands for. And in the face of danger

she was like she was still willing to fight and I just think she's an incredibly written character and in regards to what was the most shocking I can't say I'm shocked by it but I would say one of my favorite scenes

is the monologue by Robin yeah that was incredible just because Steve said earlier like does she look like a Harvard educated person then is she willing this and then she's one who got them at and she was the one who was a quick thinker and wasn't robin the one who decoded that that russian thing too so like robin's nancy didn't know yeah i know but steve threw her under the bus you're right no no i i get that but like robin is so intuitive and like she is such a quick thinker

like she is really one of the mvps of the squad yeah so like when they're in a jam and they need to get out of it like go to robin she will like help you in regards to that so i would say shocking shocking but just shocking like in how freaking good the range was of the acting of my hawk in that monologue was holy crap not shocking by robin doing that emotional has to be max in that final moment because i was so relieved that she survived i was happy what about yeah max in that final moment for sure i think some of the best like acting moments in this episode is max at the graveyard when she's talking to billy an emotional moment also for me that i really felt because he's such a good actor is hopper digging into peanut butter and literally crying smiling laughing and then going in a

corner blankets that was great think about that comfort that we have every day those things that we can have that he did not have for so long and it just puts you in that perspective and i didn't think that he was like got to get away i'm like wait we're we're doing this already oh my god we like he he got to the church or wherever which is very exciting so that was like uh i think a surprise for me that it happened that quickly and that we actually made it and he gets to eat peanut butter i was like hell yeah um but i was really shocked at yury backstabbing them i thought that he was going to be like 40,000 and then when i saw him on the phone obviously but god what a disaster that's such a disaster like that is like oh my god disaster after disaster after disaster like i didn't think it could

get worse and then freaking yurie right and if murray was freaking awake he could have understood what he was saying on the phone but he wasn't um so there's there's a whole list i think because this is one of you know the favorite episodes of television for a lot of people there are a lot of emotional and shocking moments in this, which is really great. I also love if you guys caught it in the graveyard when they're like, what's her favorite song? Go get the,

or no, they're like, call Nancy and call Nancy and Robin on the walkie-talkie, and they push Dustin, Dustin falls off. And they're still tracking shot. And then he gets up and he runs and he's like, oh, God. That was great. And I assume it's accidental. You know, I don't assume that they plan that stunt.

It did not look like a stunt roll. It looked like he fell, which was amazing. And they keep rolling, and you've got to use that shot. It's leaked a freaking movie that I was in that I rewatch coming down the stairs. I thought that I was going to be on the floor. There was two stairs left, and I broke my ankle on screen. I was like, if you don't use that shot, I'm out of here. And they did use that shot.

So anyway. I would also say too shocking. It was Robert England, but sorry. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Robert Ingle was great. Makeup was fantastic. He's obviously a great, a great actor. There was a funny time when me and Roxy accidentally watch the new...

The 2010 remake. The 2010 remake. And we were screaming the whole time going, what happened? Do we just like go into the universe via 10 years? Where is Robert? Where is Robert? These effects look good for the fifth movie.

Yeah, we were losing it. We were losing it. I've done crazy. But yeah, he did call out Robert, for sure. Thank you for the question. All right. Theo, Stranger Things, 4x4, yes. Since running up that hill is the song that saved Max from Fechna's control.

What would be your favorite song that would save you from Beckna? We've actually already covered that. And since I think someone already kind of asked that, I would add either recent or from the 80s, whichever one you didn't answer previously. Okay, good question. Mine would probably be Billy Eilish's, which, what I was made for. It's not my favorite song of all time, but that would be impossible to choose.

But it's definitely one that had a big emotional impact on me when I was first hearing it. And Barbie, and that stayed with me ever since. If I had to choose one from the 80s, though, it would maybe be a ha's take on me. Take on me. I think I love that song. Or if we want one more that's running to the portal. of two safety like maybe Europe's the final countdown

with the final countdown also great job Andrew one of your predictions from one season to the other and from the end of the last episode finally came true with Robert England being in the episode as old Victor Creel every once in a while I'll get a prediction thank you for your amazing content

been loving rewatching the show with both of you for the last three months I've been a long time subscriber on YouTube but I was only able to join a patron two weeks ago wow especially with it being last season until november i had to be there fully with you guys that makes us look so awesome that you became a patron because we're covering stranger things it makes us look good to it makes us look good we feel good about that yeah theo thank you so much we love that appreciate song from the 80s song from the 80s uh what's what's what's it called baltimore tarzan tarzan tarzan boy is that what the song's how is that

Is that what that song's called? I think that's... You've never heard that song. Tarzan, boy. I think that's what it's called. What is Andrew talking about? Tarzana, right? Tarzana.

Oh, Tarzana. I think that's what it's called. Oh, I think that I would do Rosanna. Oh, from Toto? Yeah. That's a good one. Like, that would be a fun one, right? Yeah, it just has a vibe.

I was right, Tarzan Boy. Tarzan Boy. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah. You know that song? Or would have... Look at the lyrics. Oh, that would bring you back to life.

Yeah, that's a good one. Anything, but also anything by Queen would be fun too. Oh, Queen. Yeah, definitely Queen. Yeah, one of those would be great. And, yeah, I loved what you said there in your songs. Thank you so much, Theo, for the letter and the appreciation. We love it.

Appreciate you, Theo. All right, from Jessica Hauser. One of my favorite things in this episode of the reveal of Victor Creel being played by the man, the myth, the legend, Robert Anglin. I'm a huge nightmare on Elm Street fan. I even bought a house on Elm Street. What? She did? Do you sleep well, Jessica?

I just want to make sure you don't get nightmares. Jessica. I know you're fans of it as well, especially Andrew. I am a die-hard fan, yes. So what is your favorite Freddie Kruger moment or film? for film I know everyone's I need to look up the poster

because I covered them all with Roxy See she wasn't lying when she said she doesn't always remember I really don't y'all The first one is definitely the best I would say it's so close between one and the third movie Dream Warriors I love Dream Warriors Oh forget it it's the first one I already know I didn't have to look up And you know what Dream Warriors too

A lot of what's happening on stranger things Especially this season like a group of kids that are dealing with a lot and dealing with this one entity this monster that's coming after them kind of really feels Dream Warriors-esque to me as well. I love that movie. It is. Yes. Directed by Charles

Russell, Chuck Russell in 1987 and also the next year did The Blob and I think he also did the Mask in 94 and also in Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, 96 called Eraser. But yeah, that movie, I love that. And Frank Darrymband also wrote that film as well, the director of my favorite movie ever, Shawshank Redemption. Oh! Nightmare and Elm Street 3. So I think

that movie is so damn good. And I love the music in that movie. That movie is so damn 80s to me. Yeah. It's great. I would say that. In regards to favorite Freddie moment, oh, God, there's so many to pick. I'll think about that, but what's your, you said the first one's your favorite. I was just going to say

it's the first movie because I loved the practical effects in that. Like, I was over the moon when the face comes through the wall and then she's flying up. I mean, it was phenomenal. And then they tried to recreate that. later and it was not as practical and I didn't like it and I was like take me back to the 70s

which you don't normally say when you're watching movies right um and I think I just always loved anything with like Freddie Kruger in the boiler room like in his Christmas colors like oh god it was always so creepy with his like nails and like and he's always like in the shadows and his like red light. Yeah. No, that's good. I think my favorite moment. I don't know if you remember it.

You might. It's from the third movie. Of course, that's what I'm going to pick, right? I was originally going to pick from the fifth movie, which is not usually regarded as one of the better films in the series. That's the Dream Trial, which came out in 1989, directed by Stephen Hopkins, who also did predator to a year after that. But my favorite.

Cyclope. I know, right? It's a curse, guys. I think my favorite moment is in the third film when he grabs. I think her name was Jennifer. She was watching TV, and he grabs her and says, this is it, Jennifer, your big break in TV, welcome to prime time, bitch. And then shoves her head into the TV.

But the line was supposed to be in the script. Just, this is it, your big break in TV. And then Robert England, he improvised the lines, Welcome to Prime Time, bitch. Oh, I love that. I just, that's probably my favorite friend moment and probably one of my favorite deaths in the entire series. So I would say that.

I love to hear your guys thoughts. What's your favorite film? Freddie moment. Yeah. And if you didn't, if you didn't like link up like everybody else knowing that it was a nightmare at Amstreet reference, you can watch all those movies with the Sheejects on the channel. We reacted

to all of them. I watched every moment. They were great. Even the ones you guys thought was a different movie. It was awesome. That one's hilarious. It was awesome. All right. Tori Jerry. Episode 4 is probably my favorite episode of the show. Now that you're pretty much halfway through the season, what do you think Fechna's

motivations are? Do you have any theories for the rest of the season. You know what? Tori, that's a great question. I don't know. I mean, we know kind of like Freddie. He likes to mess with his victims.

He likes to torture them. He doesn't like the quick kill. And, I mean, when it came to just comparing really quick, you know, in terms of contrasting and all that, Freddie liked to do the same thing as well. And Freddie was

a child, you know, molester and did other nefarious evil things as well. So I don't, I don't know what his motivations are, but I'm very, like, I'm very fascinated just to, and compelled to know what is going on, which is good. I like not having even an inclination. I like when shows and movies are not predictable.

That's kind of a pet peeve, as many of you know, which I've said at nauseam in the past. In regards to theories. I'm still worried about Max. I know she just survived. I will still, I mean, I will always worry about everyone on the crew. I think Elle's getting her powers. I think that's obvious, right?

She's going to get her powers back. I think there's going to be more of the backstory with Matthew Modin because I keep seeing his name in the title screen. Oh. So why it says, yeah, I didn't even know this. Yeah, it says that. So I'm guessing we're going to get more of that in the backstory of L being. Good old Papa's back, huh?

Yeah, good old Papa. And the backstory of when L. he was, you know, experimenting on L, so we're going to get a little more of that, apparently. Watch, it's going to be Matthew Modine's grandfather is Vecna. Oh, God. Yeah, right. Try to think what else.

I could see the love triangle really happening. I can see little moments, little sprinkles here and there between Robin, Jonathan, and, oh, I know Jonathan hasn't really been the thing. Nancy Jonathan, Steve. Yeah, I can see that happening. I think any other moments I could see. happening. That's all I got for right now. What about you? Well, here's what I think. With the Vecna motivations, I don't necessarily know his motivation, but what I'm thinking, because he links up to all

those kids and he, with his, weird octopus arms, I feel like he needs their souls to live. And I feel like he needs their energy. So he's like has to keep killing. Because like when he hooks up to that thing and and then he looks like just a wild octopus spider thing. I don't know. I don't know. I just think he needs these souls to live. I don't know. That's my only assumption because member an alien,

and it reminds me of alien, when the bodies are up against the wall and the alien is going through their mouth. It's just like that. The 80s horror. And I'm thinking, okay, it needs that to survive. just like the mama needed those bodies. It was like living off of them.

So why? I don't know. I don't know. That's my one theory on that. I still want to know, too. Why did he attack in the 50s and then have a break in between decades? I'm so curious about that too, right? Yeah.

I'm sure they're going to explain it. But like, I'm curious what happened. Yeah, that's a weird. That's a weird one. um theories for the rest of the season i don't i don't know i don't know um because i'm like and i can't wait to see what happens too with uh now that it appears joyce and murray are going to the russian what's going to happen there right because he's like you're going to join your friend very soon but now he's not at the frickin prison he's at the church eating peanut butter yeah but he got

captured. Oh, that's right. At the freaking end. Yeah, because he got betrayed by Yuri. Yeah, yeah, I know. And Enzo also got captured as well. I wanted to blank it out because I was so happy I'm with you. Like we took all this energy and breaking of ankles to get here. And now we're back in the same freaking spot. I think I blacked it out because I really didn't. This episode is so stressed city in every freaking angle. Like ugh. Which makes it really, really great.

I don't I don't really have I don't have any theories I just think maybe that once I saw that in this episode that Mike and Will became friends again I'm thinking that like somehow that's going to come into play that really strong friendship is going to save somebody without L being involved that's what I feel like would be good writing right? that now they're back together and he's like no actually you didn't do anything wrong you know and i'm like well didn't you were being a dick to him like and i kept saying that the episodes so i think it would be really great writing to see them come together and something happened there i'm not sure if that will but that's my that's my one thing all right jay rushden what up jay stranger things four by four right now andrew must be screaming it's robert england indeed i was i definitely was is doug bradley you know me too well is Doug bradley pin who plays pinhead next season sync i said sadie pink or sadie sink it's so it is sync yes thank you sink totally reminds me of jean gray they went

superhero mode i could see that what are terra's cats names curious grinch and meika oh i like that very cool question what song would you get out because it's so bad for me it's friday by rebecca black would get me out uh we kind of already went over oh because it's so bad though you have to give a bad song oh because it's so bad my bad my bad because it's so black you've got to choose a bad one try not to be too critical of things where it's like I hate that song it's so bad because I don't listen to songs that are bad I know right that's a tough one like if somebody like I don't I don't know like bad song yeah we got to think about it yeah

That's a tough one. Because we don't listen to the songs that we don't like. Yeah, exactly. You just skip. I mean, yeah. I like a lot of stuff. Yeah, me too. I don't personally, like, I don't dislike country.

At the same point, I'm not, like, listening to it over and over or anything like that. But I don't dislike it, so I, but I don't, I don't know. It's a tough one. We'll have to think about it. Yeah, it's a good question, though. We'll think about it, Jay. It's a good one. You stumped me.

Yeah. All right. Last one. Gabriel, Stranger Things, Episode 4 on a scale from 1 to 11. How psyched were you both at the Robert England small but key role? I particularly love it because of the multi-layered meta-aspect. Oh, I'm so with you there, Gabriel. Yes. At a 1 out of 11, I would go 11 for sure. And I was hoping for it too, especially just with what this whole season is about.

It's so inspired, of course, with Nightmare and Elm Street. And also, too, I love, as you were saying, the multi-layered meta aspect of it, not only because what's the first shot is him, like, scratching his hand. That's so by design. Totally. And how many times also the meta aspect, what are so many lines that he said, his character with the dialogue? He said the word nightmare, like, probably about four or five times. A lot.

Yeah. And also, I feel like his, and we mentioned it, too, as we were in real time, I heard so much of his Freddie voice coming out in spurts there. I was like, oh, uh-oh. Yeah, but the fact to another portion of the meta aspect, like, it was happening to him. The nightmare was on him now. The nightmare is not happening to him. It's like what goes around, comes around.

The table's turned. The table's really turned on him, like in this universe. And when I first saw this, I had not watched any of the nightmare down street movies. So now I'm like, once you were like, and I was still like racking my brain about it because I don't remember stuff. And then I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, of course, that makes sense. Because we kept talking about the Nightmare on Elm Street, you know, references that are, or you mainly did, but at least when he brought them up, I got them because I watched those films with Roxy. Thank goodness. But when I first originally watched this, I had not seen any of them.

And that may be a reason why I don't remember as much because I'm not having as much back when I watch it as much connectivity to like all the references. And now I'm really in it. You have more of a deeper appreciation now for what he's saying. I do. I do. You feel like the first time you're watching, why is this guy talking about it? I mean, he experienced this. Of course, it's traumatic.

Well, why is he mentioning the word nightmares so much in such a meta type of way? Yep. Now you get it. Now I know. Anyway, guys, thank you so much for joining us. Do all the YouTube things. We really love you.

And we will see you on the next episode. Thank you.