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christmas john i'll go to you first man uh i mean i know we had like a bit of an up and down
journey with uh volume one like we liked it and we really loved uh episode four but it wasn't
like quite hitting as hard how are you feeling uh now i i'm feeling like this is not to lead the witness
year. I feel like this is much
stronger. Overall,
it's more of what I love about Stranger Things
pretty much from beginning to wind. Yeah, I think
it sucks and I hate the show. Exactly. That's
when I like, I hate watch the show.
No, no, yeah. I would
say not to be led, but
I am with you. I think this
has kind of been on an
upward trajectory increasingly
over time, you know? And
yeah, as of this
chunk of the season, I have been very much
enjoying what we've got so far
I like that there's a little bit
this is giving is scratching the
itch of having like some kind of mystery
and some kind of like bigger what the hell
is happening to kind of re-contextualize
what I thought I knew
this has more of that than the first
installment of the season which just makes
it more hooky and gripping
and yeah they've had a lot of
the things that have stood out
are yeah the whole development
at the upside down Hawkins lab
and what it means for the wormhole
and you know all of that very cool very interesting the melty shit is a neat motif to add to the season visually that feels unique to this season which is another thing that we were hoping for and yeah i just think they've given a lot of really lovely scenes to different pairs of characters you know it seems like one of the major things they're focusing on this season is to really pay off the emotional journeys of the characters you know it seems like one of the major things they're focusing on this season is to really pay off the emotional journeys of the characters
and to give these actors who have grown across the show some real meat to sink their teeth into one last time and i think that has been a joy to watch yeah um yeah just like i mean we'll go over them i'm sure but you know the steve and dustin back and forth has been great nancy and jonathan i cared more about in this one episode than most of the show very fucking long time but that since the early seasons yeah um and like yeah i think season three was when i stopped i started like not really care about their dynamic and
as a duo as much
than four of his non-existent
because they were separated.
Nancy and Robin now.
Yeah, it's like Nancy stayed
kind of like a consistently interesting character.
Yeah, but it was the Jonathan part that was
really kind of going downhill.
Yeah, at least for us.
And I think in this season,
they really made a concerted effort to bring it back
because the first season is like Joyce,
you know,
the kids outside of Will
because he's not really around.
And it's the buyer's family.
and the kids and then Hopper at 11, right?
And I think they've been bringing it
like a good full circle with that.
And I love the conversation they had.
I thought that was actually really unique
for going against a cliche,
which normally is we resolve
and then we say, will you marry me?
But making it like, oh, it's not about that
and putting a ring on it,
it wouldn't solve all the problems.
And I think that was something we were saying
when the ring was introduced earlier.
Like, well, I was not going to solve it.
you know
like that's just going to add a new layer to it yeah yeah and a lot of the and for a season
it seems like one of the the through lines that the show is doing for this season is a lot of
characters are having to come to terms with the truth of what's going on inside of them the
walls that they've put up while physically going into the walls of vectna's mind and going
through like the the barriers there and doing like the real physical
uh depiction of walls and barriers and memories and trauma of
with max and holly and beck and henry and so i like what they're they're pulling here and i like
the i like the mirroring that they got with a lot of people and so yeah that jonathan and holly
jonathan and uh nancy's scene was really strong the steven dust and stuff was uh like i thought
steve really really put it's kind of weird like steve's like going back to season one
steve's like really harsh this time like really harsh yeah and got it to a point where i don't know i
I feel like you should say sorry.
A little bit.
You got to cross the line a little bit here, man.
Yeah, I think that was, yeah, it's a great scene because obviously he's kind of instigating
that in a lot of ways.
And then they both do it to an extent to each other.
And it is like, as a bloodletting certainly and as, you know, sort of a boiling over of
tension, I thought all that stuff was super duper gripping.
And yeah, I mean, like a lot of hurt comes out of that.
But I thought the way that they guided that to the ultimate conclusion of like, no,
can't go through this again you can't die yeah all that was really potent when he was about to do
exactly what what eddie would have done or yeah something akin to yeah some heroically
foolish act or something like that yeah because a lot of the funny fun part about their dynamic is
that these two by all accounts shouldn't be this close of friends yeah totally they're so different
in their life their personalities what their interests are age and yet like they love each other and
need each other and so i like the way they were illustrating that and it's kind of bold for them
to go in a direction for this final season where they mine the drama out of that friendship
because we've never had like a drama with their friendship yeah it's always been fun yeah it's
always like a respite from a lot of other things yeah it's usually like an endearing back and
forth and like yeah we get it and this time instead of just repeating that and actually kind of
play fire with the audience a little bit by having it be kind of messed up it's because like
like I'm not I understand why Steve would be because there's that part of it like well
Steve has a point it's just the manner in which you delivered it is kind of the best up
part like you sound really insensitive and cold-hearted and not like it doesn't make me
dislike Steve I understand why when people are hurt they say hurtful things even if there's
like some truth behind it you know yeah it's like to truly get through to you and to get this
conversation meaningfully rolling even if that's not really like
what I logically came into this to try and do.
Yeah, it's like sometimes you just need to, you know,
toss the first brick.
Yeah.
Surprisingly, the Max and Holly stuff is like pairing them up is a dynamic.
I don't think anyone saw coming from when we entered this season.
And somehow that has been one of the smart choices here
because you can't just have dynamics that we're aware of.
You've got to mix it up.
and to give this random new dynamic.
And on top of that, too,
we were, I think we misspoke last time
that Holly, like, grew up and turned into this person,
but that's a completely different actor.
I learned that, yeah, that they cast a different person.
I just assumed because that's what they always do.
Yeah, damn.
It's a good, good match.
But she's so good.
Like, to make you care about Holly this much is really good.
That final scene and the concern for her danger
and sometimes I met with
then they're doing shows like this
or sequels that you wait a long time for
and they're focusing on people that I'm like
I don't give a shit about this person
go back to the people I came here for
sometimes I'm met with that feeling
you know and I know Holly's kind of been around
the entire time but she's never really been like
a focal point character like the focus
and for the amount of focus they give her
I'm surprised and a lot of the testament
I think really goes to her as an actor
because she is so damn good
that I really care about her a lot
and actually infusing her
is the closest to kind of reminding me
of the kids when they were in the first season.
You know what I mean?
Just having that super youthful, smart, precocious child
who's capable and growing
has to become an adult, like, quickly to get shit done.
Yeah, I want to, yeah, and to give a...
Everyone's been through so much stuff,
now so it's like it's nice to behold through a fresh set of eyes again to re-establish those stakes
and yeah like that plot line and how we pay off getting max back into her body at this point
because we only have two episodes left of the show it's crazy to think about um yeah like it
feels that's wild yeah is that only like four more hours left of this show not even it's probably
like three hours there's only like three more hours for dr k to become a character
so they like numerous hours
because it's not perfect
I'll tell you it's not perfect
there's a couple of things that I'm like
I really hope they somehow
make it worthwhile with a few people
and I'll talk about them later
yeah to close that I do like
yeah with with Max
you know she's in jeopardy
she's in limbo there's all sorts of like
at the back of your mind you're like we must
get her back right and
yeah I think the long game of that has been nice
and I do like the sort of puzzle of it all
and the little ways in which,
okay, we involve Derek
and we got all these other little kids here.
And, you know, meanwhile, Will's tapping in
and there's like, there's overlap slightly
and then the probing it like,
okay, what is this safe haven memory?
What do we do about this?
How to, there's got to be something out here
and the thing with the lens cap coming back
and discovering, again,
it's adding like little layers of mystery
while also giving you a payoff
because it's like,
oh, this weird memory that's in Henry's mom.
mind and it must be traumatic, but it also must be tied to how he became this way in the first
place. And it also follows the logic of the dream stuff. And then to finally be back here after
we saw her almost get there early on in the season and the cloud, you know, is whipped away. And then,
yeah, for her to have to empower Holly one more time and to remind Holly of Mike's speech. And it's
not like the most, you know, crazy idea. It's a well-trodden idea, but I do like a scene like
that where someone's like I messed up all these different things and then someone has to be like
yeah yeah but you actually took action and like even though you want to and you were afraid and
you all you had all your normal you feelings you did holly the heroic stuff and you can do it again
you know this is a really lovely you know in a story about darkness versus light and all sorts
of inversions and perversions of you know the right way of things it's a nice yeah thematic
flourish to get them both back and then to cut to black on the you know heart rate monitors
Yeah, she's dead.
Vicki and Robin, you know, I'm kind of surprised by the amount of...
Because Robin is, like, one of the most...
When I pull back, I'm so fascinated by what they do with Robin.
Because Robin was introduced in three, and she, fortunately, was really, like, a character that people really liked.
Yeah.
She didn't get killed off.
Yeah, it got really bad, honestly.
Like, hey, we're going to, like, foot off Steve and Dustin.
this is rotten this new character and uh fortunately she clicked really well with the show and she clicks
but then in season four i don't this is like the poorest choice of words but like three they
made her really smart like i'm gonna like decode russian and all this shit yeah and and and she's like
this one of the smarter ones and then in four she's like i just can't stop talking and the stupid
shit just comes out of my mouth and that's kind of my character this season you know and then
five they're like doing some type of blend of that
like oh we're getting sees where she's really smart
and then sees where she doesn't like stop talking
yeah yeah yeah she's still
when they balance it out that
seems to be like the best
sweet spot for the charm of the kid
yeah it's like season four she's more just like I'm neurodivergent
and yeah it's like when she's in situations
that can call upon her skills and stuff like that
when they're doing all the rigging up the
pumpkin and then the demigorian and you know
we're turning the dial and all that
and even her in the hospital
like yeah I like
even the squawk is sort of becoming a better motif
of the season itself
and yeah it is interesting the way
they ebb and flow Robin but I like
Vicki's great yeah yeah that was a really sweet
back and forth because obviously like how could you
it's it's easy to forget in this show like not everybody has seen
the extent of everything so you would still have these
situations where you're like I can't just say what we've been doing because
obviously that would sound insane and to be in the hospital
and having this whole like you know oh you're going through withdrawal you're on
drugs you know is a very funny
and I'm glad that we didn't
stretch that out too long
you know it's it's taking care of
pretty quick and that's enough for me
on a conflict like that but it was nice to
check in just with that relationship
and Vicky as a character too
yeah it's an easy
those kinds of characters can easily fall by the wayside
I thought
Joyce Joyce
I thought she had one of the best
scenes she's had in a while like
she's getting some of the best things she's had in a while
this whole season but that scene where she's
lamenting to Hopper
and they're sharing
you know the kinship of
failing as a parent
together I thought that was like one of her best
scenes she's had in a very long time
I got me a little emotional actually
I thought that was like really beautiful
so a lot of this stuff
and yeah the reveal of the fucking wormhole
is like kind of gratifying
and cool and like
how the hell are you gonna wrap this guy
you got fucking Kay who's like trying to duplicate
this project and then you got
the wormhole situation like you're over a whole new
season now this is what if this is all going to ultimately culminate finally in the collie spin-off
oh yeah it's all leading to a new spin-off starring collie well okay so to go into some things
i'm still like not fully hitting for me when collie was explaining everything i love that
sinister reveal of all the pregnant one like it's so eerie it's so gross
endless in a way that like logically doesn't quite make sense but also is just such a great
visual yeah like it's it feels this hallway yeah it was so off putting in a way that that's like a
good plot exposition reveal moment that truly fit and it was effective and you're like oh damn
that is messed up the thing though is I feel like everything with them is just that without much as
much impact. You know, like 11
gets that really cool scene when they're going to the
gate and she's using powers. Most of 11
and even Collie
and Hopper, most
of it, Hopper I feel like
is getting repeat beats that we've already
gone through with him, especially
when it comes to his relationship and how he is
as a father to 11. Like a lot of
that feels kind of repetitive and I wish
they leaned a little bit more into this
you know, how he was in Russia and
now he's back and then what kind of person
is he now? What's been that development? Like, why is he
just like sad you know like like lean into it explored a little bit or have that be a like set
that up early on like is he distant as a boyfriend with joyce what's he like as a boyfriend like
all these things that i feel like they kind of skipped over that would have probably made this
season and moments like i'm ringing dynamite with me to potentially off myself you know and
things like that that i feel like a lot of their stuff is getting chalked up into just straightforward
were plot and the things that are really effective are the stuff where they slow down to have rich
character scenes and things that advance it in a way and don't just feel like they're repeating
and if it's kind of strange as 11 and hopper are my favorite characters and i find them to be
two of the least interesting people in this particular section yeah like i'm always there when
they're there because i'm like it's them and every season they're my favorite and so it is
especially is kind of,
I'm especially a little bit more harsh on it
because they're my favorite people.
A lot of people tend to go for
when I say that
and they might include like Steve
in that. And I love Steve.
11 and Hopper to me
are like the part, the show to me
and what they're doing here
and like it seems like all the opportunities
are here like they're teamed up.
You know, like they're, I get it
after the amount of tribulation of trust
like now they're actually teamed up
and working together yet so much of the writing around them just feels like plot it feels like a loop
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because with Hopper right now it feels mostly like
okay death wish plus I'm overprotective
for a good reason but I also know I'm being overprotective
and I should just let 11
you know have a little bit more autonomy
without me trying to control it and it's
we've done that like a and we've done that a lot
and we're still doing it and it doesn't not make sense
because obviously what they're doing is like
the most unprecedented life and death shit but
at the same time yeah they do feel the least like we've gotten to actually i feel like many of the
characters this season they have made a point to go we're going to dip into these guys perspective
and have some real intimate moments even if it's just like a standout scene for like jonathan
and nancy this is like one scene terrific scene and then like you know and then we move on to other
stuff and with hopper and 11 i feel like i'm always kind of observable
serving them from a distance and even in the scenes where we are just in the two of their
perspective i don't really feel like i'm immersing into the perspective or yeah or like you said
their inner life what's been the effect of all this what's it's weird they almost feel like
they're not really able to check in with being characters right now because they're just like
so on the mission yeah and even when they're getting a moment too it's still i don't know
maybe it'll change there's still there's still two more episodes so i don't want to harp on this
yeah for too long like that's just the concern
right now, and I'm hoping
a flip happens. I'm hoping
that they pay that off because
it's just because it's late. And I'm also
not like, yeah, like five or like six episodes.
I only got two episodes left. It's like, come on.
Despite the length, even, I'm like, yeah,
we're six episodes into this.
It seems like I should feel like we got some
intimate time with Hopper. At 11.
I feel like they ran out of juicy
stuff for them. To do with them.
Because it's kind of like they expel information,
even when they're, sometimes the emotional
scenes with them seem like.
beats they're just hitting because I got to hit it like when he's injured and he's talking about Sarah to you know in volume one seems like that for some reason are just not clicking as hard as I feel like they ought to and maybe that's just our feelings again I'll still wait though to find out they have the least descript to me if like every every other set of characters that I can think of who are like focal this season have gotten like some striking moment that has pulled me further into them
And I am kind of apathetic about Hopper and 11 right now.
Yeah.
Well, I think the thing about what makes Stranger Things great, especially in the earlier seasons, and I don't even think Ford lost it.
Like, four went bigger with its visuals and stuff.
It's the fact that the show is intimate.
And I feel like this season five, even though I think these last two are so good, five overall has lost some of that intimate touch in favor of world due.
stuff which I get
you know it's I understand
that's why I think a lot of that should have been a set up
at the beginning that way
it you know kind of bleeds
throughout the rest just like the
other seasons so we'll see
and Collie is the most interesting part
of their storyline I thought her stuff
as she's you know giving her
monologues or talking to 11 in the church
or her various moments I thought were striking
and it's nice to see I don't know how people are responding
me this obviously but I'm
happy for that actor to get to
you're going to reclaim this character in what I hope is a slightly more agreeable way for everybody
because I think she's doing good work she's doing good yeah again though I'm hoping they you know
make some type of real dynamic out of that yeah yeah yeah for sure something a little bit more
rich to mind that goes a little bit further beyond I know her better than you and then you know
you're lying the same thing we always tell them you know but uh the the other part really want to
give credit to is jimmy camelbauer yeah him is henry is so
good because in last season when you see him as Henry, they haven't put all their cards out on the table yet that this is really Vecna, you know? So it's kind of cool to go back and watch that performance when you know that information. Sure. And now watching him where he's just Henry out in the open, we're all well aware, he's actually doing something very different and he gets to play different. And he gets to play in Henry that are all versions of like control, manipulator, hellbed power. Then he gets to play Vecna. So watching him do all three and showing these different.
as a Henry. I think he's absolutely excelling
at it, and he is truly
captivating to watch. I like watching
him as Henry more than I do as Vecna. I think he's
so good. And I'm happy you get a good
amount of both, and I know he's been out
here documented as like, you know, he
I'm sure they beef it, but you know, I know
he developed his Vecna voice, and it's kind of
cool to hear the spectrum of that, because
you know, as much as you
see an actor, you know,
in their just normal form
in a role like this, part of your brain goes like,
I bet this season you didn't want to spend as much time all
made up but at the same time i think the way they choose to portray him as one or the other has been
very effective and showcases his range yeah and yeah as much as i wasn't crazy about the
mr what's it stuff on this side on the you know earlier side of the uh you know reveal fence
when that was still like semi a mystery once you come to find that's henry you're like oh
that's what i thought but now on the other side of that getting to watch him embody
Mr. What's it now that we know
is really fun and engrossing
and creepy. Definitely. So yeah, it's like I like
the choice better on this side of the
wall and with other
stuff to wonder about now
and in the back of my mind
as much as a lot of this is his creation and
you know, his will that he's trying to
enact. You know, it still leaves me
with certain questions about like the nature
of this universe and the physics
of it and how and why and
chicken and egg and all that stuff.
And so, you know, I'm back in that moment
in that mode with this show where I'm
starting to try and decode
things again which is fun
for sure for sure
Will it's probably the last thing
well and Mike a little bit
Mike was in these episodes
it's weird because I think this is the best
Finn Wolfar we've got it in a very long time
you know not since like season
two stuff has he been this good
they've given him like a lot of dialogue
a lot of scenes and
it seems like they really went out
our way perhaps a little too much to not make him just be 11's boyfriend yes because that's all he
really is in season three and four like that's his whole character he's 11's boyfriend and this season
they seem to go so out of their way that he doesn't even seem concerned about 11 yeah that's funny
because he doesn't even concerned about his sister than much honestly he's got so much to deal
right in the room he's got object
permanence issues you know if you're not
right here in front of him he's not thinking about it too
uh I mean with Finn
of Wolfhard being one of the breakout stars
of the show obviously and one of
early on the sort of
main focal characters that people gravitated
toward I think what's been cool
especially about the this season
for him is and
these couple episodes especially
he's like really good
support in a way
like he's a really good support
supporting character and so even if he's even if here as a five and six i'm thinking back and going like
oh mike didn't have like tons to do he did have some impactful scenes and moments and i think that
just his presence as again somebody who can empower and encourage and support the people around him
and throw an extra hand on whatever is like a necessary part of any operation and it's like a lovely
way to keep the sort of heart of the friend group thing alive because it's one of those things
and it's like the buffy conundrum of like not everyone can be a special thing and you know some people are you know on the more normal side of the spectrum just doing what they can mike and lucas definitely fall into that category
dustin's got at least his elevated intellect um but yeah i really like mike as an empowering support character as of this season and uh will
getting i mean he didn't get much to do in six but it was kind because the cliffanger of following one is will unleash
I like the idea that Joyce got carried away.
She was hastened at choice.
I was here going like,
dude, he just like learned about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, same day.
This is sick, but like, let's not bite off the whole thing
just because we learned we have teeth now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a little quick.
But, you know, desperate times.
Yeah, exactly.
Desperate times.
And I like that Joyce is like,
oh, shit, I kind of like push this a little fast,
and I
at least she acknowledges that
and the moments
with Will
like that was a really
cool scene
when he does
go into Vecna's mind
and like breaks his leg
and all that stuff
yeah
yeah that limp is still
going with him
so I really like that a lot
yeah very cool
there I do kind of wish
the whole thing
with the spy stuff
was
it does feel like
they have a lot of ideas
they had
that they're trying to
cram into eight episodes
you know
yep there's a little
too much going on
because like
they just introduced
that spy thing you kind of forget about that spy thing
and then they wrap up that spy thing
you know that
and they're like oh we gotta get the demo dog
we gotta do
gotta do the same thing's about demo dogs
gotta check that locks don't win
that that feels yeah it feels so
much because yeah will's turn is like such
a huge boost that then you feel like
oh no if he's gonna be a spy this could be
devastated yeah and then yeah
it ultimately just adds like an extra
little scoop of stakes onto an already
moving trains
you know
which was a good sequence
the demo dogs in the hospital like it was intense
and it was fun it was a fun like a little Jurassic Park tribute at times
yeah it's weird because like all this stuff about the runtime
the meme of like every one of these episodes are gonna be three hours long
I am kind of taken aback that they're not I yeah I kind of wish they were
because I'm like even though I'm like that's unprecedented for you know TV right now
at the same time I'm like I can see how you could accomplish a lot of what you've
set out to do here and not that
they you know this has been pretty solid in a lot of ways not every way but in a lot of ways
for a final season of for what it is but i am sort of sitting here reminding myself again and
you know i still have kind of faith that the last episode will be at least holy feature length
whether that means 90 minutes or two hours i don't know i heard it was like i heard it was two
hour i heard it was not as long as the finale for four but it is like like close to
315
as Avatar
It's not before
It's a little
excessive
But I don't know
Like even then
You know
You still have to have
Installments
Feel appropriately
balanced and sized
And needed
And all that stuff
And so not that they can't do it
But it is
It is getting to that wire
Where I'm like
There's still a bunch of stuff here
And we only have
Yeah ostensibly
Maybe three hours left
Of storytelling
So
But we'll see
We'll see
Overall though
It's still like
Still fucking stranger
things. It still feels like a
event TV. Still feels a really enjoyable. It's not a poor trajectory.
I'm excited to check out the next one. And I certainly
feel confident saying there's more pros than cons.
Sure. It's just that
this time the cons kind of stand
out a little bit more.
Just because of the circuit. It's like I wonder
if we were just watching this and we had no idea
it's to end how we would feel about some of this stuff.
I feel like I feel the same. I mean,
probably. We had like gripes of a three
like I have gripes with four.
It's just like for some reason now like oh well
I guess they're kind of like shining a little.
little bit more now. I think the weight of the gripes
hits harder because it is not just another season. It is the final
season. It's like some of the storytelling stuff would still be
yeah, things you could nitpick or gripe about but I feel like you don't
have the ability now to be like well okay if this thread's anemic they'll probably just
develop it next season. That's probably the point. You know now it's sort of like oh god
I hope you can get it all. Yeah. You know but good shit.
It's it's on an upward trajectory.
well guys we're going to aim to get you the next one
karen tomorrow karen was great karen got a badass moment
no one cares about tithman the hamilton was casting the show
uh so
easy as paycheck she's here
oh god
legendary in the house she is just doing brenner shit
she's got brenner hair we knew it from the get go
yeah
she literally just doing brenner
is she dr k brenner
oh shit we killed off brenner well just get her someone else
he's got a sister
with the same hair we never said he didn't have a system yeah that's true there could be a hundred
brenners out there they could be a whole family of brenners it's a colony all right guys well
one more to go in this volume thank you for being here and of course i'll have andrew and tara
cover this we'll see you guys soon peace
