The Reel Rejects - STRANGER THINGS Season 5 Episode 5 & 6 REVIEW!!!

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:30 them just a bit. John, you're ready to watch? I'm so ready. Let's hop in the pizza tub with the salt water. Let's do it. Let's do the whole thing. We have just watched Stranger Things episode 5 and 6 of season 5, a.k.a. Volume 2, we have ventured in two.
Starting point is 00:00:57 A couple of things I want to mention. Hey, if you want to watch the full-length reaction watch-along where you sync up with your own copy, that is available for a Royal Reject. So we're at patreon.com slash real rejects. And over there, we do full-in-threatment-watch-longs for everything you see here, so you get the reaction highlights that are cut up there. Time code included.
Starting point is 00:01:18 That way we're talking over all the best parts for you. You know what I mean? It's just like we're sitting on the couch. You enjoy the whole thing from beginning. And usually, additionally, because we're recording this right away, Usually, our royals get access to our shooting schedules. So we generally are able to, like, have you guys participate in our reviews, get shoutouts by proxy. So it's a cool part.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You guys help increase the content. Same time to, you know, help upset a lot of copyright claims. Man, if you follow the reaction community, Stranger Things has a really hard time. Yeah, we had a couple blocks happened last time, a lot of fighting with the copyright stuff. Let's hope this one is up in public and everything's good this holiday weekend. Additionally, I want to thank everyone who bought already some real rejects teas
Starting point is 00:02:01 like this Doctor Stranger Things attire Look at this man And are the Vecna universal Monsters inspired done by our friend Janine actually That's right, shouts out And we also got to reject things one Believe it or not
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Starting point is 00:02:24 The channel Help us keep going provide for everything that we do around here same time if you can't totally understand probably spend too much money around the holidays just leave a like on this video that would be great and of course prepper thanks again for adding this down helping us have a merry merry christmas john i'll go to you first man uh i mean i know we had like a bit of an up and down journey with uh volume one like we liked it and we really loved uh episode four but it wasn't like quite hitting as hard how are you feeling uh now i i'm feeling like this is not to lead the witness
Starting point is 00:02:54 year. I feel like this is much stronger. Overall, it's more of what I love about Stranger Things pretty much from beginning to wind. Yeah, I think it sucks and I hate the show. Exactly. That's when I like, I hate watch the show. No, no, yeah. I would say not to be led, but
Starting point is 00:03:10 I am with you. I think this has kind of been on an upward trajectory increasingly over time, you know? And yeah, as of this chunk of the season, I have been very much enjoying what we've got so far I like that there's a little bit
Starting point is 00:03:25 this is giving is scratching the itch of having like some kind of mystery and some kind of like bigger what the hell is happening to kind of re-contextualize what I thought I knew this has more of that than the first installment of the season which just makes it more hooky and gripping
Starting point is 00:03:41 and yeah they've had a lot of the things that have stood out are yeah the whole development at the upside down Hawkins lab and what it means for the wormhole and you know all of that very cool very interesting the melty shit is a neat motif to add to the season visually that feels unique to this season which is another thing that we were hoping for and yeah i just think they've given a lot of really lovely scenes to different pairs of characters you know it seems like one of the major things they're focusing on this season is to really pay off the emotional journeys of the characters you know it seems like one of the major things they're focusing on this season is to really pay off the emotional journeys of the characters and to give these actors who have grown across the show some real meat to sink their teeth into one last time and i think that has been a joy to watch yeah um yeah just like i mean we'll go over them i'm sure but you know the steve and dustin back and forth has been great nancy and jonathan i cared more about in this one episode than most of the show very fucking long time but that since the early seasons yeah um and like yeah i think season three was when i stopped i started like not really care about their dynamic and as a duo as much
Starting point is 00:04:54 than four of his non-existent because they were separated. Nancy and Robin now. Yeah, it's like Nancy stayed kind of like a consistently interesting character. Yeah, but it was the Jonathan part that was really kind of going downhill. Yeah, at least for us.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And I think in this season, they really made a concerted effort to bring it back because the first season is like Joyce, you know, the kids outside of Will because he's not really around. And it's the buyer's family. and the kids and then Hopper at 11, right?
Starting point is 00:05:26 And I think they've been bringing it like a good full circle with that. And I love the conversation they had. I thought that was actually really unique for going against a cliche, which normally is we resolve and then we say, will you marry me? But making it like, oh, it's not about that
Starting point is 00:05:43 and putting a ring on it, it wouldn't solve all the problems. And I think that was something we were saying when the ring was introduced earlier. Like, well, I was not going to solve it. you know like that's just going to add a new layer to it yeah yeah and a lot of the and for a season it seems like one of the the through lines that the show is doing for this season is a lot of
Starting point is 00:06:03 characters are having to come to terms with the truth of what's going on inside of them the walls that they've put up while physically going into the walls of vectna's mind and going through like the the barriers there and doing like the real physical uh depiction of walls and barriers and memories and trauma of with max and holly and beck and henry and so i like what they're they're pulling here and i like the i like the mirroring that they got with a lot of people and so yeah that jonathan and holly jonathan and uh nancy's scene was really strong the steven dust and stuff was uh like i thought steve really really put it's kind of weird like steve's like going back to season one
Starting point is 00:06:43 steve's like really harsh this time like really harsh yeah and got it to a point where i don't know i I feel like you should say sorry. A little bit. You got to cross the line a little bit here, man. Yeah, I think that was, yeah, it's a great scene because obviously he's kind of instigating that in a lot of ways. And then they both do it to an extent to each other. And it is like, as a bloodletting certainly and as, you know, sort of a boiling over of
Starting point is 00:07:10 tension, I thought all that stuff was super duper gripping. And yeah, I mean, like a lot of hurt comes out of that. But I thought the way that they guided that to the ultimate conclusion of like, no, can't go through this again you can't die yeah all that was really potent when he was about to do exactly what what eddie would have done or yeah something akin to yeah some heroically foolish act or something like that yeah because a lot of the funny fun part about their dynamic is that these two by all accounts shouldn't be this close of friends yeah totally they're so different in their life their personalities what their interests are age and yet like they love each other and
Starting point is 00:07:48 need each other and so i like the way they were illustrating that and it's kind of bold for them to go in a direction for this final season where they mine the drama out of that friendship because we've never had like a drama with their friendship yeah it's always been fun yeah it's always like a respite from a lot of other things yeah it's usually like an endearing back and forth and like yeah we get it and this time instead of just repeating that and actually kind of play fire with the audience a little bit by having it be kind of messed up it's because like like I'm not I understand why Steve would be because there's that part of it like well Steve has a point it's just the manner in which you delivered it is kind of the best up
Starting point is 00:08:28 part like you sound really insensitive and cold-hearted and not like it doesn't make me dislike Steve I understand why when people are hurt they say hurtful things even if there's like some truth behind it you know yeah it's like to truly get through to you and to get this conversation meaningfully rolling even if that's not really like what I logically came into this to try and do. Yeah, it's like sometimes you just need to, you know, toss the first brick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Surprisingly, the Max and Holly stuff is like pairing them up is a dynamic. I don't think anyone saw coming from when we entered this season. And somehow that has been one of the smart choices here because you can't just have dynamics that we're aware of. You've got to mix it up. and to give this random new dynamic. And on top of that, too, we were, I think we misspoke last time
Starting point is 00:09:24 that Holly, like, grew up and turned into this person, but that's a completely different actor. I learned that, yeah, that they cast a different person. I just assumed because that's what they always do. Yeah, damn. It's a good, good match. But she's so good. Like, to make you care about Holly this much is really good.
Starting point is 00:09:43 That final scene and the concern for her danger and sometimes I met with then they're doing shows like this or sequels that you wait a long time for and they're focusing on people that I'm like I don't give a shit about this person go back to the people I came here for sometimes I'm met with that feeling
Starting point is 00:10:01 you know and I know Holly's kind of been around the entire time but she's never really been like a focal point character like the focus and for the amount of focus they give her I'm surprised and a lot of the testament I think really goes to her as an actor because she is so damn good that I really care about her a lot
Starting point is 00:10:21 and actually infusing her is the closest to kind of reminding me of the kids when they were in the first season. You know what I mean? Just having that super youthful, smart, precocious child who's capable and growing has to become an adult, like, quickly to get shit done. Yeah, I want to, yeah, and to give a...
Starting point is 00:10:43 Everyone's been through so much stuff, now so it's like it's nice to behold through a fresh set of eyes again to re-establish those stakes and yeah like that plot line and how we pay off getting max back into her body at this point because we only have two episodes left of the show it's crazy to think about um yeah like it feels that's wild yeah is that only like four more hours left of this show not even it's probably like three hours there's only like three more hours for dr k to become a character so they like numerous hours because it's not perfect
Starting point is 00:11:20 I'll tell you it's not perfect there's a couple of things that I'm like I really hope they somehow make it worthwhile with a few people and I'll talk about them later yeah to close that I do like yeah with with Max you know she's in jeopardy
Starting point is 00:11:37 she's in limbo there's all sorts of like at the back of your mind you're like we must get her back right and yeah I think the long game of that has been nice and I do like the sort of puzzle of it all and the little ways in which, okay, we involve Derek and we got all these other little kids here.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And, you know, meanwhile, Will's tapping in and there's like, there's overlap slightly and then the probing it like, okay, what is this safe haven memory? What do we do about this? How to, there's got to be something out here and the thing with the lens cap coming back and discovering, again,
Starting point is 00:12:08 it's adding like little layers of mystery while also giving you a payoff because it's like, oh, this weird memory that's in Henry's mom. mind and it must be traumatic, but it also must be tied to how he became this way in the first place. And it also follows the logic of the dream stuff. And then to finally be back here after we saw her almost get there early on in the season and the cloud, you know, is whipped away. And then, yeah, for her to have to empower Holly one more time and to remind Holly of Mike's speech. And it's
Starting point is 00:12:37 not like the most, you know, crazy idea. It's a well-trodden idea, but I do like a scene like that where someone's like I messed up all these different things and then someone has to be like yeah yeah but you actually took action and like even though you want to and you were afraid and you all you had all your normal you feelings you did holly the heroic stuff and you can do it again you know this is a really lovely you know in a story about darkness versus light and all sorts of inversions and perversions of you know the right way of things it's a nice yeah thematic flourish to get them both back and then to cut to black on the you know heart rate monitors Yeah, she's dead.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Vicki and Robin, you know, I'm kind of surprised by the amount of... Because Robin is, like, one of the most... When I pull back, I'm so fascinated by what they do with Robin. Because Robin was introduced in three, and she, fortunately, was really, like, a character that people really liked. Yeah. She didn't get killed off. Yeah, it got really bad, honestly. Like, hey, we're going to, like, foot off Steve and Dustin.
Starting point is 00:13:43 this is rotten this new character and uh fortunately she clicked really well with the show and she clicks but then in season four i don't this is like the poorest choice of words but like three they made her really smart like i'm gonna like decode russian and all this shit yeah and and and she's like this one of the smarter ones and then in four she's like i just can't stop talking and the stupid shit just comes out of my mouth and that's kind of my character this season you know and then five they're like doing some type of blend of that like oh we're getting sees where she's really smart and then sees where she doesn't like stop talking
Starting point is 00:14:17 yeah yeah yeah she's still when they balance it out that seems to be like the best sweet spot for the charm of the kid yeah it's like season four she's more just like I'm neurodivergent and yeah it's like when she's in situations that can call upon her skills and stuff like that when they're doing all the rigging up the
Starting point is 00:14:35 pumpkin and then the demigorian and you know we're turning the dial and all that and even her in the hospital like yeah I like even the squawk is sort of becoming a better motif of the season itself and yeah it is interesting the way they ebb and flow Robin but I like
Starting point is 00:14:53 Vicki's great yeah yeah that was a really sweet back and forth because obviously like how could you it's it's easy to forget in this show like not everybody has seen the extent of everything so you would still have these situations where you're like I can't just say what we've been doing because obviously that would sound insane and to be in the hospital and having this whole like you know oh you're going through withdrawal you're on drugs you know is a very funny
Starting point is 00:15:14 and I'm glad that we didn't stretch that out too long you know it's it's taking care of pretty quick and that's enough for me on a conflict like that but it was nice to check in just with that relationship and Vicky as a character too yeah it's an easy
Starting point is 00:15:29 those kinds of characters can easily fall by the wayside I thought Joyce Joyce I thought she had one of the best scenes she's had in a while like she's getting some of the best things she's had in a while this whole season but that scene where she's lamenting to Hopper
Starting point is 00:15:45 and they're sharing you know the kinship of failing as a parent together I thought that was like one of her best scenes she's had in a very long time I got me a little emotional actually I thought that was like really beautiful so a lot of this stuff
Starting point is 00:15:58 and yeah the reveal of the fucking wormhole is like kind of gratifying and cool and like how the hell are you gonna wrap this guy you got fucking Kay who's like trying to duplicate this project and then you got the wormhole situation like you're over a whole new season now this is what if this is all going to ultimately culminate finally in the collie spin-off
Starting point is 00:16:21 oh yeah it's all leading to a new spin-off starring collie well okay so to go into some things i'm still like not fully hitting for me when collie was explaining everything i love that sinister reveal of all the pregnant one like it's so eerie it's so gross endless in a way that like logically doesn't quite make sense but also is just such a great visual yeah like it's it feels this hallway yeah it was so off putting in a way that that's like a good plot exposition reveal moment that truly fit and it was effective and you're like oh damn that is messed up the thing though is I feel like everything with them is just that without much as much impact. You know, like 11
Starting point is 00:17:13 gets that really cool scene when they're going to the gate and she's using powers. Most of 11 and even Collie and Hopper, most of it, Hopper I feel like is getting repeat beats that we've already gone through with him, especially when it comes to his relationship and how he is
Starting point is 00:17:29 as a father to 11. Like a lot of that feels kind of repetitive and I wish they leaned a little bit more into this you know, how he was in Russia and now he's back and then what kind of person is he now? What's been that development? Like, why is he just like sad you know like like lean into it explored a little bit or have that be a like set that up early on like is he distant as a boyfriend with joyce what's he like as a boyfriend like
Starting point is 00:17:54 all these things that i feel like they kind of skipped over that would have probably made this season and moments like i'm ringing dynamite with me to potentially off myself you know and things like that that i feel like a lot of their stuff is getting chalked up into just straightforward were plot and the things that are really effective are the stuff where they slow down to have rich character scenes and things that advance it in a way and don't just feel like they're repeating and if it's kind of strange as 11 and hopper are my favorite characters and i find them to be two of the least interesting people in this particular section yeah like i'm always there when they're there because i'm like it's them and every season they're my favorite and so it is
Starting point is 00:18:37 especially is kind of, I'm especially a little bit more harsh on it because they're my favorite people. A lot of people tend to go for when I say that and they might include like Steve in that. And I love Steve. 11 and Hopper to me
Starting point is 00:18:54 are like the part, the show to me and what they're doing here and like it seems like all the opportunities are here like they're teamed up. You know, like they're, I get it after the amount of tribulation of trust like now they're actually teamed up and working together yet so much of the writing around them just feels like plot it feels like a loop
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Starting point is 00:21:14 and I should just let 11 you know have a little bit more autonomy without me trying to control it and it's we've done that like a and we've done that a lot and we're still doing it and it doesn't not make sense because obviously what they're doing is like the most unprecedented life and death shit but at the same time yeah they do feel the least like we've gotten to actually i feel like many of the
Starting point is 00:21:41 characters this season they have made a point to go we're going to dip into these guys perspective and have some real intimate moments even if it's just like a standout scene for like jonathan and nancy this is like one scene terrific scene and then like you know and then we move on to other stuff and with hopper and 11 i feel like i'm always kind of observable serving them from a distance and even in the scenes where we are just in the two of their perspective i don't really feel like i'm immersing into the perspective or yeah or like you said their inner life what's been the effect of all this what's it's weird they almost feel like they're not really able to check in with being characters right now because they're just like
Starting point is 00:22:21 so on the mission yeah and even when they're getting a moment too it's still i don't know maybe it'll change there's still there's still two more episodes so i don't want to harp on this yeah for too long like that's just the concern right now, and I'm hoping a flip happens. I'm hoping that they pay that off because it's just because it's late. And I'm also not like, yeah, like five or like six episodes.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I only got two episodes left. It's like, come on. Despite the length, even, I'm like, yeah, we're six episodes into this. It seems like I should feel like we got some intimate time with Hopper. At 11. I feel like they ran out of juicy stuff for them. To do with them. Because it's kind of like they expel information,
Starting point is 00:22:58 even when they're, sometimes the emotional scenes with them seem like. beats they're just hitting because I got to hit it like when he's injured and he's talking about Sarah to you know in volume one seems like that for some reason are just not clicking as hard as I feel like they ought to and maybe that's just our feelings again I'll still wait though to find out they have the least descript to me if like every every other set of characters that I can think of who are like focal this season have gotten like some striking moment that has pulled me further into them And I am kind of apathetic about Hopper and 11 right now. Yeah. Well, I think the thing about what makes Stranger Things great, especially in the earlier seasons, and I don't even think Ford lost it. Like, four went bigger with its visuals and stuff. It's the fact that the show is intimate.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And I feel like this season five, even though I think these last two are so good, five overall has lost some of that intimate touch in favor of world due. stuff which I get you know it's I understand that's why I think a lot of that should have been a set up at the beginning that way it you know kind of bleeds throughout the rest just like the other seasons so we'll see
Starting point is 00:24:16 and Collie is the most interesting part of their storyline I thought her stuff as she's you know giving her monologues or talking to 11 in the church or her various moments I thought were striking and it's nice to see I don't know how people are responding me this obviously but I'm happy for that actor to get to
Starting point is 00:24:32 you're going to reclaim this character in what I hope is a slightly more agreeable way for everybody because I think she's doing good work she's doing good yeah again though I'm hoping they you know make some type of real dynamic out of that yeah yeah yeah for sure something a little bit more rich to mind that goes a little bit further beyond I know her better than you and then you know you're lying the same thing we always tell them you know but uh the the other part really want to give credit to is jimmy camelbauer yeah him is henry is so good because in last season when you see him as Henry, they haven't put all their cards out on the table yet that this is really Vecna, you know? So it's kind of cool to go back and watch that performance when you know that information. Sure. And now watching him where he's just Henry out in the open, we're all well aware, he's actually doing something very different and he gets to play different. And he gets to play in Henry that are all versions of like control, manipulator, hellbed power. Then he gets to play Vecna. So watching him do all three and showing these different. as a Henry. I think he's absolutely excelling
Starting point is 00:25:35 at it, and he is truly captivating to watch. I like watching him as Henry more than I do as Vecna. I think he's so good. And I'm happy you get a good amount of both, and I know he's been out here documented as like, you know, he I'm sure they beef it, but you know, I know he developed his Vecna voice, and it's kind of
Starting point is 00:25:50 cool to hear the spectrum of that, because you know, as much as you see an actor, you know, in their just normal form in a role like this, part of your brain goes like, I bet this season you didn't want to spend as much time all made up but at the same time i think the way they choose to portray him as one or the other has been very effective and showcases his range yeah and yeah as much as i wasn't crazy about the
Starting point is 00:26:16 mr what's it stuff on this side on the you know earlier side of the uh you know reveal fence when that was still like semi a mystery once you come to find that's henry you're like oh that's what i thought but now on the other side of that getting to watch him embody Mr. What's it now that we know is really fun and engrossing and creepy. Definitely. So yeah, it's like I like the choice better on this side of the wall and with other
Starting point is 00:26:41 stuff to wonder about now and in the back of my mind as much as a lot of this is his creation and you know, his will that he's trying to enact. You know, it still leaves me with certain questions about like the nature of this universe and the physics of it and how and why and
Starting point is 00:26:58 chicken and egg and all that stuff. And so, you know, I'm back in that moment in that mode with this show where I'm starting to try and decode things again which is fun for sure for sure Will it's probably the last thing well and Mike a little bit
Starting point is 00:27:13 Mike was in these episodes it's weird because I think this is the best Finn Wolfar we've got it in a very long time you know not since like season two stuff has he been this good they've given him like a lot of dialogue a lot of scenes and it seems like they really went out
Starting point is 00:27:32 our way perhaps a little too much to not make him just be 11's boyfriend yes because that's all he really is in season three and four like that's his whole character he's 11's boyfriend and this season they seem to go so out of their way that he doesn't even seem concerned about 11 yeah that's funny because he doesn't even concerned about his sister than much honestly he's got so much to deal right in the room he's got object permanence issues you know if you're not right here in front of him he's not thinking about it too uh I mean with Finn
Starting point is 00:28:10 of Wolfhard being one of the breakout stars of the show obviously and one of early on the sort of main focal characters that people gravitated toward I think what's been cool especially about the this season for him is and these couple episodes especially
Starting point is 00:28:26 he's like really good support in a way like he's a really good support supporting character and so even if he's even if here as a five and six i'm thinking back and going like oh mike didn't have like tons to do he did have some impactful scenes and moments and i think that just his presence as again somebody who can empower and encourage and support the people around him and throw an extra hand on whatever is like a necessary part of any operation and it's like a lovely way to keep the sort of heart of the friend group thing alive because it's one of those things
Starting point is 00:29:02 and it's like the buffy conundrum of like not everyone can be a special thing and you know some people are you know on the more normal side of the spectrum just doing what they can mike and lucas definitely fall into that category dustin's got at least his elevated intellect um but yeah i really like mike as an empowering support character as of this season and uh will getting i mean he didn't get much to do in six but it was kind because the cliffanger of following one is will unleash I like the idea that Joyce got carried away. She was hastened at choice. I was here going like, dude, he just like learned about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:43 It's like, same day. This is sick, but like, let's not bite off the whole thing just because we learned we have teeth now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little quick. But, you know, desperate times. Yeah, exactly. Desperate times.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And I like that Joyce is like, oh, shit, I kind of like push this a little fast, and I at least she acknowledges that and the moments with Will like that was a really cool scene
Starting point is 00:30:06 when he does go into Vecna's mind and like breaks his leg and all that stuff yeah yeah that limp is still going with him so I really like that a lot
Starting point is 00:30:15 yeah very cool there I do kind of wish the whole thing with the spy stuff was it does feel like they have a lot of ideas they had
Starting point is 00:30:25 that they're trying to cram into eight episodes you know yep there's a little too much going on because like they just introduced that spy thing you kind of forget about that spy thing
Starting point is 00:30:33 and then they wrap up that spy thing you know that and they're like oh we gotta get the demo dog we gotta do gotta do the same thing's about demo dogs gotta check that locks don't win that that feels yeah it feels so much because yeah will's turn is like such
Starting point is 00:30:47 a huge boost that then you feel like oh no if he's gonna be a spy this could be devastated yeah and then yeah it ultimately just adds like an extra little scoop of stakes onto an already moving trains you know which was a good sequence
Starting point is 00:31:01 the demo dogs in the hospital like it was intense and it was fun it was a fun like a little Jurassic Park tribute at times yeah it's weird because like all this stuff about the runtime the meme of like every one of these episodes are gonna be three hours long I am kind of taken aback that they're not I yeah I kind of wish they were because I'm like even though I'm like that's unprecedented for you know TV right now at the same time I'm like I can see how you could accomplish a lot of what you've set out to do here and not that
Starting point is 00:31:31 they you know this has been pretty solid in a lot of ways not every way but in a lot of ways for a final season of for what it is but i am sort of sitting here reminding myself again and you know i still have kind of faith that the last episode will be at least holy feature length whether that means 90 minutes or two hours i don't know i heard it was like i heard it was two hour i heard it was not as long as the finale for four but it is like like close to 315 as Avatar It's not before
Starting point is 00:32:01 It's a little excessive But I don't know Like even then You know You still have to have Installments Feel appropriately
Starting point is 00:32:10 balanced and sized And needed And all that stuff And so not that they can't do it But it is It is getting to that wire Where I'm like There's still a bunch of stuff here
Starting point is 00:32:18 And we only have Yeah ostensibly Maybe three hours left Of storytelling So But we'll see We'll see Overall though
Starting point is 00:32:26 It's still like Still fucking stranger things. It still feels like a event TV. Still feels a really enjoyable. It's not a poor trajectory. I'm excited to check out the next one. And I certainly feel confident saying there's more pros than cons. Sure. It's just that this time the cons kind of stand
Starting point is 00:32:39 out a little bit more. Just because of the circuit. It's like I wonder if we were just watching this and we had no idea it's to end how we would feel about some of this stuff. I feel like I feel the same. I mean, probably. We had like gripes of a three like I have gripes with four. It's just like for some reason now like oh well
Starting point is 00:32:55 I guess they're kind of like shining a little. little bit more now. I think the weight of the gripes hits harder because it is not just another season. It is the final season. It's like some of the storytelling stuff would still be yeah, things you could nitpick or gripe about but I feel like you don't have the ability now to be like well okay if this thread's anemic they'll probably just develop it next season. That's probably the point. You know now it's sort of like oh god I hope you can get it all. Yeah. You know but good shit.
Starting point is 00:33:25 It's it's on an upward trajectory. well guys we're going to aim to get you the next one karen tomorrow karen was great karen got a badass moment no one cares about tithman the hamilton was casting the show uh so easy as paycheck she's here oh god legendary in the house she is just doing brenner shit
Starting point is 00:33:44 she's got brenner hair we knew it from the get go yeah she literally just doing brenner is she dr k brenner oh shit we killed off brenner well just get her someone else he's got a sister with the same hair we never said he didn't have a system yeah that's true there could be a hundred brenners out there they could be a whole family of brenners it's a colony all right guys well
Starting point is 00:34:09 one more to go in this volume thank you for being here and of course i'll have andrew and tara cover this we'll see you guys soon peace

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