The Reel Rejects - SUPERGIRL TRAILER BREAKDOWN!! Woman Of Tomorrow Easter Eggs | DCU | Lobo | James Gunn

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

DC JUST DROPPED THE NEW SUPERGIRL TRAILER! James Gunn’s DCU is officially expanding into the cosmic frontier with Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, and today Greg Alba & Coy Jandreau break down everythi...ng we saw — from Kara Zor-El’s powerful new characterization to the film’s striking sci-fi aesthetic inspired by Tom King’s critically acclaimed comic run. We explore how this Supergirl differs from Superman, why her harsher upbringing makes her one of the DCU’s most compelling new heroes, and how the trailer sets the tone for a darker, more emotionally charged journey. What planets are we seeing? Who is the mysterious villain teased? And how will Supergirl connect to the larger DCU, including Superman, Swamp Thing, The Authority, and the upcoming Lanterns series? PLUS — we speculate on casting details, story influences, potential cameos, and what James Gunn and director Craig Gillespie are setting up for the future of the DC Universe. Is Supergirl poised to become one of the breakout characters of the new DCU era? If you enjoy these trailer breakdowns and theory dives, hit like & jump into the chat! Reject Nation, let’s get into it. If you’re loving these breakdowns, hit like & jump into the chat! Reject Nation, let’s get into it. Follow Coy Jandreau:  Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Hello there, fellow rejects, members of Argo Planet. I like how fun that looks, the Argo destruction. Dude, I... I can't wait to see that suffering and humorous for... I wonder how many people think it's candor, they're going to be even sadder. Like, it looks like, because how many people that are casual Superman fans, like, oh, the planet in the bottle! No, it's way worse.
Starting point is 00:00:52 It's way sadder. Was the dude with the, like, the close-up on the guy who I think some people think is brainiac? Is that crem? Crem of the Yellow Hills, bro? I didn't notice. Because he doesn't look like me. I didn't put you. Yes, Krem's supposed to look kind of like, who's that guy in Game of Thrones, the, not the snow people.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Oh, freak, I'm terrible in the name. John, you got to know. Snow people. The snow guy, the big beard dude. Oh, yeah. Burly pirate man. Yeah. Torman Giants.
Starting point is 00:01:22 His name is Torben Giantsbane. Yeah. Oh, I'm jealous. Yeah, that's kind of what he sort of looks like. I think I look more like, even than Green Arrow, I look like that fellow. So when they cast Matea Shoddard, so I was like, oh. And then I saw it and I was like, well, guys, we're here to two things today. We're going to talk about the Supergirl trailer.
Starting point is 00:01:40 If you didn't catch the reaction that John Roxy and I did, that is up there on the channel. We'll watch the first time watching. We're going to break this down together, Koi and I, Koi, convinced me months ago that I had to read Woman of Tomorrow, did it right after Superman, and it was cool to have some knowledge. Hell yeah. It feels good when you're left. I know, thought my top. I did a full breakdown on my page of all eight issues, but I didn't spoil it.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I didn't do the thing that some people do on their YouTube, so they're just like, here's the comic for free and here's the end. No, no. I did a breakdown, but I did it in an tactful way. Also did a video of me talking to everyone in New York of the cast. So what would help Alex and John are here, what would help guys, if there's people in the chat mentioning things that we should definitely discuss in this trailer, please let us know. I want to dive into why I think Lobo
Starting point is 00:02:28 would actually be a good addition to this movie even though he's not in the comic And then of course we're going to do the Boy Season 5 trailer We did not see it And we thought this would be a good opportunity To do that And this will probably be the only time We do a Boy Season 5 trailer
Starting point is 00:02:42 If there's any more that comes out We're not going to watch it Because we're going to watch the bullets It's the final season You can only watch the final season one time Same feeling about Stranger Things We saw one trailer after that we're done And yeah Coy did go watch
Starting point is 00:02:54 He quite went to that Supergirl event. I was in New York to watch this trailer like three days ago and I had to keep it a secret. Yeah. Before we go into hearing your thoughts on that, please leave a like on this video. Thanks to everyone who does contribute
Starting point is 00:03:06 Super Chats and Streamlaps to this podcast today. We usually go live every Friday, but if there's a special trailer day like this, we're going to make some exceptions like today. And so we never end a stream unless we go through every single one of them. So you guys dictate a lot of how this conversation will go. But before we dive into the trailer,
Starting point is 00:03:22 we'll be going frame by, frame. We're going to pull it up on screen for you guys. We're going to do the whole shabang. Coy, this trailer launch event. I was invited to the Superman one, but wasn't invited to this one. There's on the other coast, Craig. I'm so sorry. They even had a virtual one
Starting point is 00:03:38 in the day. Oh, I don't know. I'm not excuse. What happened? I thought I shilled for Warner Bros. Yeah. It's because I criticized the hell out of peacemaker. Did we not do eight videos on Superman for you? I love that press tour, but here we are. Now I'm going to talk about how Superman's woke and just rail because you betrayed me. A girl.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Superhero? Never done before. Set in the present? Because the rest have been set in the past since 2005. Actual stat. Nice. Coy. What is the, what was the event like? It was cool. I want to give my flowers to the team for actually
Starting point is 00:04:10 making sure it was Supergirl fans. The audience was like, you know, creator events. Sometimes you're like so you just danced on TikTok and ended up with 4 million. What are you doing here? This audience was creators that are actually in the movie in comic space. I actually had more interactions with people that I've followed and have followed me that are in New York that I'd ever at an event. Like, it was cool to meet people that actually
Starting point is 00:04:30 care about the comic, because I could tell when they talked to me, they knew what they were talking about. So I was at an event where people were so comic-y that I actually was relevant. Like, it was cool, because, like, most creator events, I'm just a guy with a little HBO show, but I'm not dancing. Like, this was like, oh, my God, you're doing the thing with DC Studios.
Starting point is 00:04:45 So I felt immediately in the room, those were the diehards. And then the event itself was curated to feel like that punk rock underground sensibility. It was at a club, disco balls over the ceiling, all the lighting. Oh, like the opening of the trailer. Yeah, they built that. Okay. So my buddy Frankie at IHeart Comics build these incredible events that are like curated to be the style of the film.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And they let him go ham with Supergirl and made the trailer in person. So it was a really cool club event. So we actually watched it on like a nightclub stage on. And then James came out. Craig came out. They introduced Millie. So James Gunn came out and gave like a speech about how excited he was to be overseeing the DCU and to let one of his favorite directors, Craig Gillespie broke down why he was excited about Craig's work, direct this.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And then Craig Gillespie came out, talked about his relationship with the comic. And then he introduced Milly Alcock. She came out and said, like, it was cute because she was clearly like a little nervous, but she was kind of like still her excitement was bigger than her nerves. But I felt her like start, stop and like adjust to everything. And it was adorable because it was so endearing to see like James Gunn, Showman and Craig Gillespie like ride or die. And then Millie was just like ready to talk about Supergirl. And it was really cool to see three people excited for different reasons.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Like, they didn't feel rehearsed. It didn't feel like sound bites. It's what I'm trying to say. It felt like here is the passion behind these three creators. And then Peter Saffner is there as well. It came out and talked to everybody. I, um, with my job with James Gunn and Peter Saffron, got to talk with both of them. And it was really interesting to talk to James about something that he didn't direct.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Because so far, Creature Commandos, Peacemaker. And I asked him straight up, like, what is it like for you to watch Daly's not having directed this, loving the comic? Because when he was pitching the DC in the beginning, Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow was a comic that was just come out and like this was part of his initial idea so this was in real time
Starting point is 00:06:28 him getting to watch the visuals that he loved so much that he wanted to get it made and I was like that's gotta be awesome so we actually had a really long not long we had a really long talk about the green sun elements of one of the stories and it was really cool to hear him
Starting point is 00:06:41 as a director being a viewer of a director so it was a different dynamic so I had a really cool talk with him talked to Peter about it and he's been a fan of this comic since at first launch He had a lot of Tom King references that made me happy because Peter Saffron doesn't go out and talk
Starting point is 00:06:55 as much as James, so it's cool to hear how nerdy he is. Tom King is the artist. Writer. Who's the artist again? Bill Quist Evely. Oh, wow, I did not commit that to me. So Tom King, one of my favorite writers over DC is actually a writer on lanterns. He's an incredible writer.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Oh, wait, no, he's like one of the greats, dude. So sorry. Batman. Yeah. You know, I love his Mr. Miracles, one of my favorites of all time. Anyway, Tom King's great. He wrote this,
Starting point is 00:07:21 series, Bilkis Evely on art, and Bilkis Evely, both of them got like Ringoes and Eisner's and big awards for this. So it was really cool to talk to creators from a different lens. I don't usually get to talk to producers about comics and to hear how they analyze it and to hear how they receive the art.
Starting point is 00:07:37 That's cool. It was a very different dynamic. Then I talked to Craig Gillespie for a little bit. I posted that video on my page. I actually got to film me and Craig talking and his enthusiasm for certain pages. He'd talk about a page and he's like made the frame. So I got to feel the little element Spoiler-free, what he was excited about.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Talked about Lobo a little bit. And then I talked to Millie Alcock, and she had a really cool perspective on Supergirl where she was talking about her striving being the thing that she connected to most. And I love that this is a story of Supergirl in a new era and a Supergirl finding herself. And she was finding Supergirl
Starting point is 00:08:09 as Supergirl found herself in a new way. And the way she talked about the character was so passionate. And it was really cool to hear an actor, like not as a comic, but be excited about a character. I give it to me. I really cared about Millie caring about
Starting point is 00:08:21 Kara. Yeah. Like, Kara matters more to me than any piece of it if it's going to be from the actor's perspective. You call her Kara or Kara? I call her Kara. I realize that when I said, carrot sounded weird in my head. Is that the, is that the correct, is there a correct pronounce?
Starting point is 00:08:35 It's very, it's very Synerac. Is that a great, well, Kara is a real name. It is a real name. Like, I don't know how, I think it's tomato tomato. I've never met a Kara. Really? Have you? Yeah, like three friends in high school named Kara or Kara.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Have you met a Kara, John? A friend. affirmative yes it's a real name yes i have met a carra a couple times actually oh cool and and i have met carra as well have you met a call l i i i have met a jorrell really yeah we grew up with a kid named jurel yeah what's it wait was jurel like jorl i'm pretty sure that's what he said like his dad yeah is a huge superman fan nick cage named his kid callel yeah i know someone who named their kid eragorn that's cool yeah i'm tempted but ania would kill me I didn't get a name my kid, detective Pikachu.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And that's respect. Yeah, it's a deep cut. But yeah, overall, the van was awesome. Warner Brothers DC curated a good group of people to actually be invested in it. Like, it felt the passion in the room was strong. It didn't feel like people just, like, filming themselves at an event. And then, like, I really liked that it felt like it was for Supergirl. And it was really cool to see James Gunn get to be the guy overseeing DCU, not director, writer, James Gunn.
Starting point is 00:09:43 It was really cool to see Peter Safrin get his flowers because that dude is one of the great creative producers. And it felt like the people in that room cared. And then Craig Glasby was like a gidy was like a good. Australian boy like he's a grown man but I can feel he's just like oh my god we're doing a thing big enough for this event like I tanya's not getting a trailer release party so like it was cool to see Greg Gillespie get like the love he deserves like I think Lars and the real girl is so slept on I think dumb money is such a genius comedy like it's cool to see him get his flowers so it was it was rat event Pam and Tommy Pam and Tommy Greg's fame and Tommy
Starting point is 00:10:11 every time I mentioned him Greg's like Pam and Tommy underrated show people that was a good show good show that Pamela Anderson was really happy got made you know so thrilled I'm like, you're a Ryan Gosling diehard. How are you not championing Lars and the Real Girls much as I am? I did not. Top five, Ryan for me. When I saw Lars and the Real Girl that was part of my Ryan Gosling binge from like a decade ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And I didn't really watch it for, at that time, I didn't watch movies as much for the directing. Ah. I just wanted to absorb Ryan Gosling's performance. Sure. I don't really remember what the style of. It's a really fun, like. I remember being really funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It's a tricky tone. Kind of like what Supergirl is. That's what I think. Everything led to the, like, his filmography really suits Supergirl. Yeah. And just like Pam and Tommy. And obviously Pam and Tommy.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Carr's going to talk to her vagina. That's how we're going to get crem. He's going to come out of the yellow hills. Very great. Look how disappointed in his jacket. Sad face of him. Huey on screen. Well, you want to go through this trailer?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Let's do it, man. I got a lot of say. I just remember about Tom King. He's the reason why James, James Gunn learned about the glasses. Yeah. They can create an illusion. So we can't see.
Starting point is 00:11:25 James Gun didn't know that until Tom King told him. Tom King being one of the like architects, I think is really smart because he's such a deep cut nerd. Like he's not a surface writer. He's a guy that research is like he worked for the state department. This man broke people for a living. And now he writes Batman breaking people for a living. Like he's such a really thorough writer.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And I honestly think him being one of the people behind the comic side is a huge asset to why DC feels so authentic. Yeah, man. I'm super duper excited. All right, we got the images on screen. We're going to, well, we could just like skim it, right? Yeah, we can just go on through.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Here we go. Look at that. Hey, that looks familiar. What's in the background of that? What's on the record player background? Yeah, I was actually trying to read that during the reaction. I wonder if that's off of her time on Argo City
Starting point is 00:12:12 because it definitely looks like from a different planet. They got vinyl. I respect them. That's good stuff right there. Good stuff. Let's stay on it. Shut up, new rock stars and screencrushing heavy spoilers. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Zuma and Hans. Looks like from another planet. Move on. Next shot. Look at that. Please explain this record player. Next frame. Come on.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Come on. It's probably a reference to issue number 146 where Supergirl teamed up with the Justice League of an eight issue series, issue 146. Crypto, coming in hot. Crypto, the alcoholic. Okay. You know what we should say? There will be women of tomorrow's spoilers.
Starting point is 00:12:46 That's fair. We should say that. If you don't want any spoilers from Woman of Tomorrow. Skip ahead 15 minutes. Yeah, because we want to use this opportunity to be able to talk actual spoilers. It's called a breakdown for a reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:58 All right, guys, I'm leaving the street. All right, so, yeah, I mean, it is, it is an eight-issue series from... Just realized that. It's all good. I have my chance. And if it's that good, you know, it'll still be worth the read. Well, we won't spoil the last half. Yeah, let's only talk issue six and earlier.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Let's go up until the end of crypto How about we decide in the moment Like, hey, should we say this or not? Yeah, because there's some stuff Because the second I saw crypto I was like, that's kind of an important part Of the start of that comic Yeah, it's issue one
Starting point is 00:13:28 Literally within like the, it's issue one It's the start of the story And it's not hinted at in the trailer But I will be probably by the third trailer Okay, yeah Do you know what I feel like that'll come into the trailers What the start of the comic book She's not, I forget what planet Ruthie's from
Starting point is 00:13:45 Do you remember the name of the planet? I guess read it. Well, Supergirl liking the trailer's partying. And when she does come across Ruthie, Ruthie with a Y. Yeah. I thought it was Ruthie. Tom King had to correct me. I was talking about what tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:13:59 I kept saying Ruthier. And he's like, Ruthie? And I was like, oh, I'm an idiot. Well, what ends up happening is Kara's dog ends up getting, you know, the crypto ends up getting hurt. It looks like he's going to die. And so that's part of what ties into Cara. The two stories become one. go on this mission with Ruthie because Ruthie's father was killed by Krem, so she wants
Starting point is 00:14:20 Supergirl to, you know, help her go on this revenge quest and Supergirls, and I don't think so, but because of how specifically, it's been six months since I've read it, but how specifically crypto was hurt, she feels the antidote to saving him lies in the hands of Krem. Right? Yeah. So, so, yeah, it's right. So Ruthie basically is on a vengeance tour. She's trying to enlist someone to kill her, killer of parents and find Supergirl drinking. Yeah. And that's what launches their journey together. But Supergirl's not like a bounty hunter, so she wouldn't
Starting point is 00:14:51 agree without purpose. So Crypto is a very integral part of the story because that's how Supergirl becomes embroiled in this. Yeah, it's kind of crazy the first time I was like, I don't you have crypto in the first issue? It's, and I think it's a really smart way to tie into the DCU. I love that the Superman crypto stuff
Starting point is 00:15:07 was like a little, not a twist, but like when it was like, not my dog. And now we get the relationship between her and her dog and then trauma. Yeah, exactly. Because if you only set up crypto at the beginning, then it just seems like some type of John Wick maneuver, which very well could be. But we are now already emotionally invested as crypto, not just beyond being a super dog, but at an actual character that we got to go on a character our journey with. So you tie that into Supergirl, then it's going to be that much more powerful when that happens. And it makes Supergirl feel less like, like, oh, we just got a
Starting point is 00:15:35 girl Superman. Like I know a lot of writers, especially in the pre-crisis era, just wrote like the same. But I think having crypto immediately makes her a different character. And I wonder how much this comic actually helped James Gunn crack Superman because he's credited crypto. You know what I mean? And he's talked about reading it around the time. He credits crypto for getting him in. I honestly think this comic is one of the most important things for the DCU. Oh, I agree.
Starting point is 00:15:58 All right. Let's move on from that first frame. All right. Let's leave the record player. Let's leave the record player. It's going to be a six hour stream. We're less than a second in. and we talked for 10 minutes
Starting point is 00:16:11 to explain that. Okay, we got a speaker. We got on more bottles. We got shorts. We got shorts. We got shorts. She wears shorts. She wears pants once in a while.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Every once in a while. No zippers. The zippers are not on the pants. Okay, cool. Rocket raccoons under there fixing some stuff. Can confirm. All right. I did not get a chance to slow this down.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Superman saves town nuclear reactor explodes. Supergirl saves cat. That rescues cat. I like that flip because usually cats. They make fun as Superman. saved so many cats apparently and of course the the bigger part is how supergirl has like a tiny
Starting point is 00:16:47 little section on that and superman's got a giant like headline and all fairness one is a lot bigger nuclear reactor cats uh you know scaling here but it does say a lot and uh obviously the daily planet good to see and i like the humor of crypto peeing on him after all that disrespect that superman felt like he was getting from crypto the entire movie it continues it's really funny and her reaction to it being oh you did it like that's adorable what did you say you missed a spot or something no you finally did it in the right spot or whatever like you finally you got it mostly on the paper yeah like it's intended as just make keeps the daily planet as a body pad yeah it's a local rag pretty funny uh now that that's already different from the comic because there is no terrestrial stuff in
Starting point is 00:17:29 woman of tomorrow we never go to earth so oh that's what you mean yeah we are already getting earthbound stuff i imagine it's just the opening i imagine it's like five minutes right from top. But I'm just acknowledging, you know, this is one of, if not the only time we've adapted a comic directly. Like, it was called Woman of Tomorrow, but a movie is never going to be a direct translation. It's always going to be an adaptation. So Earth is already a difference. Yeah, imagine this is the hangover after we saw her drunk at the end of Superman. Right. All right. Let's move on. Thank you, John. Thank you one. Yeah. And then I don't know. Twelve seconds in on that stream.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's a strong stream. You'll just see it. shades that is a beautiful that's cool because the cinematography of this bed moment looks like it's out of Superman but because of how she's all hung over and fucked up right now
Starting point is 00:18:19 it is immediately showing like how different it is draping herself over like that covering herself in like a cape you know because the man was straped in a clock put in the ship for Martha it's safety we got the bus stop
Starting point is 00:18:33 but you know obviously a little bit more space bound clearly I never noticed the janky ship. I never noticed the janky front of that thing like falling apart. That's totally funny. All right. So we're showing the quality of the ship she's taking. She is not flying first class.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Okay. So this is her taking her trip then, writing the ship. Because in the comic, she has a ship that she operates herself and then Krem steals that shit. Right. So automatically we're getting her more in Ruthie's position
Starting point is 00:18:58 of having to take the bus. Whereas, or she's not with Ruthie here. But in the comic, what happens is her ship gets stolen and she's forced to take the bus with Ruthie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I imagine either maybe they just used a take without Ruthie and it's going to be like the comic or it's a different situation. Or maybe this is just like her getting picked up from Earth and then being traveled to that planet. Well, then Crick couldn't steal her. Or she's renting the ship or something like that. I imagine this is still like before she goes to the planet.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah, this is definitely Earth it looks like, which Ruthie would have nothing to do with. Yeah. Moving on, I do like those shades. That's cool too. It's cool to have like a cape-esque device, but not be a cape. Good CGI. good computer-generated effects, I'd say.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Also, the benefit of having a world that already has superheroes, you can have a bus stop with a spaceship. This character design, can you go back a little bit? That character design, it's kind of funny because the mask on does sort of look like high evolutionary. It does a little bit, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 But that is a very, like when I see this kind of alien, that is very much the kind of alien I sort of associate with in Manitamar. when she first Woman of Tomorrow? Just because the James Gunn movie that's coming out next year or two.
Starting point is 00:20:09 No, man of tomorrow. Yeah, thank you for clarifying or else people would have been wildly confused. In the comments and be like, you mean the third movie with Brainiac, probably? kicked down my door while I'm sleeping. That's true. It was coming.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah. Tomorrow. It does. It looks like a Bilkis-Eveli-style alien humanoid, and there aren't any humans, which one of my favorite things about the comic is there's no humans. There are humanoid aliens,
Starting point is 00:20:32 and this definitely gives a vibe. There are no humans. I just reread it. There's not a single human in that book. Oh, man, I never put. It's because you have, uh, Krem who, you know, they look human. But there's not a single humanoid. Yeah, he said humanoid, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Damn, it's right. There's no humans. It was really cool to reread and be like, wait a second. I never put that together. Yeah, a solid point. But anyway, yeah, the expression from Supergirl to him is the kind of dry expression that I often associate with the comic book. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And I think this trailer is poppy and fun and, you know, vibrant to sell. the movie, but I still think the movie is going to be pretty sad and brutal. I don't feel like, yeah, it's tonally what the comic is. Oh, I like that. She's stealing a drink. Yeah, she's taking a guy just buy it up. Yeah, oh, wow, you do have to like kind of slow this trailer down. I miss so much shit. A lot's going on. Yeah, she's actually stealing a drink from someone, which immediately is the kind of thing Superman would not do. Yeah, every beat really emphasizes this trailer to me is a trailer of she's not Superman. I really like that every beat dialogue, visual, it's showing that she's not her cousin. That's my favorite part about the trailer because I was not really a big fan of that scene, even though I'm like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:21:36 It's supposed to be, you know, Kara who's drunk, she escapes. It still didn't feel like Supergirl to me. But this actually more, I have some concerns about some other stuff that I want to go into. However, what it really did was convert me to the side of, ah, I think she's going to be a great, a great leading Supergirl. My concerns, I will say, when we get to them, but it was interesting watching this trailer at home and they actually went away because I realized timing. wise why my concerns are probably not a problem okay cool moving on great shot she's 23 here in the comic she's turning 21 i assume that is so she wasn't underage drinking in superman but yeah she's 23 here i just if you go back a little bit john the things that i'm loving
Starting point is 00:22:20 too because lately i i am the kind of individual who notices how flat things look and i like how this actually looks composed you know that shot of kara yeah there's not that weird movies looking like the volume and Disney Plus shows thing. Like there's sharpness, there's contrast, there's certain types
Starting point is 00:22:39 of dynamic rage and vibrancy happening here. I like the different blend of color schemes happening. Like the comic itself is a very colorful comic. Yeah. A wide variety.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And like even a shot like this, I feel like is a really good cinematic shot. That actually ties into what I was going to say in a minute. But while you're on that subject, I was thinking about this trailer and I was like,
Starting point is 00:22:59 there's none of the like sweeping vistas or giant like fantastical and then I was like wait a second movies out in seven months those wouldn't be done yet no so a lot of my problems the first time I watched it I was like I liked the trailer but I was like the thing I think of the comic is like scope
Starting point is 00:23:13 we wouldn't have that developed so people in my comments were a lot of people were saying it was too brown it was too contained it wasn't like the comic but this is a teaser trailer and I think they need to sell the movie more than they need to sell the comic fans especially the certainly first impressions are so important
Starting point is 00:23:29 And this does look an awful lot like Guardians of the Galaxy. I do think the first impressions are important, but I don't think they can do. I think this habit of making trailers this early is dangerous for the movie. Definitely. A year for Doomsday and seven months for Supergirl. How can you be ready? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And we already know that movies struggle with getting shit done on time. And I think it looks great for the teaser, but I definitely don't go the visuals of the comic, but they can't. But that's the thing is like, I love this shot. Can we go back on screen, John? this shot we're getting right here I love more than a lot of like the bigger shots like to me this is more of the kind of
Starting point is 00:24:05 this feels done yeah this looks great anyway let's move on the slice of life stuff in this is the most visually appealing definitely so far and that's very much the comic too there's a lot of like bright sunlight she's also in a lot of bars and like contained moments between the vistas
Starting point is 00:24:21 well it's like the bar when in her first scene in the comic what's already very different is the bar in the comic is feels more like barbarian yeah it's like it's like a dive bar for scum and villainy not that yeah but you know i mean this has like a disco a little bit more modernism blade runnery kind of futuristic vibe where that is not the vibe like that the other vibe because in a lot of ways in the comic she's thematically a knight yeah and i would say that ruthie's kind of like the squire sure and so like when you go when you start off with in the comic where it does feel a little bit more like that Game of Thrones era,
Starting point is 00:25:01 this is a very different thing. This is where the adaptation stuff really comes into me, where it's not a one-to-one. Yeah, it definitely. There's not the same kind of bar at all. I wouldn't feel like the Barbons Briggins of the comic would go here, and I'm curious if there's another bar scene. Yeah, but it's definitely the same scene based off what she's going through right now.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, but the next scene could be a different bar because this could be the scene that lends to the opening scene and this could be terrestrial. Sure. There are some. Oh, you think this could be Earth? Could? No, let's go back and go back. are some things that are in another language over there, but we don't know, like, if aliens are
Starting point is 00:25:32 chilling on Earth. Oh, you think this could be like a secret alien bar? I think that we accept MetaHumans on Earth. There's a, oh, yeah, that's right. There's a spaceship bus. She's on Earth when the bus comes. I did run a blank that that is where we're actually. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Like, this could be her pre-Crypto scene. This does look like a Star Wars canteen a bar. Right? Well, and they got like skulls and monster stuff on the wall there. Oh, that's true. So maybe it is space. And I'm just saying I don't know if this is going to be where. the bear bond brigands are coming in
Starting point is 00:25:59 all right let's move on barbonds I think it's Barbons bregans yeah there's more yeah that's good catch oh it's a xenomore skull Oh it's a predator This is where it all comes together
Starting point is 00:26:15 What's she's saying here? This is let's make 23 the best year The bar's not very high Thank you, thank you Do you get a copyright claim guys? Because I just said the line I'm speaking No no
Starting point is 00:26:25 I'm just signing taste of trying to be aware of the copyright claim that would probably come in for the trailer reaction yeah can we move on John thank you John and here we are Argo City
Starting point is 00:26:39 so this is Krypton this is Krypton I mean is this is issue 6 is this a spoiler I think the context is okay since we know Krypton we don't have to explain every detail but you can explain what Argo City because Spelphil might be confused and like I thought if Krypton just exploded that one day
Starting point is 00:26:55 So there's a line in this that even says like, you know, went away in a day and, like, the gods are not that kind. The beautiful thing about Kara to me and why I like the character, especially in Woman of Tomorrow, is Callel never knew his planet, and it's a really interesting nature-nurture conversation. The reason Kara is so hard-edged is she grew up on Krypton, she saw it die. But even in that canon, you don't usually live through that death in a long-form way. Woman of Tomorrow is the first time you hear it from Kara's point of view.
Starting point is 00:27:23 The first time you actually hear her experience, and it's not quick. so without giving too much away this is Krypton this is a bubble that is saving Argo City this is I'll vaguely say thanks to her father and that it lends itself to one of the most brutal issues in comics and that is issue
Starting point is 00:27:40 six of The Woman of Tomorrow and this is not Kandor which a lot of people I assume will assume it is. Kandor is a little city in a glass case that is very important to Superman mythology Kandor? Kandor. John and I love Kandor Vandemin series stuff Brady Act Kandor
Starting point is 00:27:55 but this is an interesting parallel I actually think metaphorically what's really cool is if Kandor represents Superman, Kandor represents hope and the saving of something, the preservation of something. If anything, this is a parallel
Starting point is 00:28:09 to her because this city represents a failed preservation and a loss. So I've always loved that this city and Kandor kind of mirrors in the same way the Supergirl and Superman reflect each other. Yeah. And she has that line later in the trailer of like he looks for hope and she sees truth, and it's her experience here that happens of where that truth would lay waste.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's going to break my heart. Like to a lot, you keep kind of skimming through this Argo footage a little bit, John, because yeah, Argo is a city that the dad siphons off. It's because they're like, oh, maybe we can save. You actually go for it a little bit more. What if that's named after Operation Argo, which is, you know. The Ben Affleck movie. Which is the Ben Affleck movie based off a real thing where, you know, people pretended something
Starting point is 00:28:54 in order to save a group of people. this is similar. Look, guys, everyone knows everyone on Krypton dies. Spoilers! Whether you hate this or not, I'm going to say. I think that's her mom's funeral. Oh, I definitely think so.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Yeah, because like when it starts off in that issue, the dad is a scientist, so he's Zor L. And the mom, whose name I am blanking on at this very moment is Martha. It is. What in doubt,
Starting point is 00:29:21 Martha. I'm spacing too. I'm sorry DC Comics fans. I am. spacing oh thank you allura and then and then
Starting point is 00:29:31 call out's is laura allura and laura very redundant zorrel that's that is such like laura that is such like forties writing yeah it's such fucking like you know game of thrones lord of the rings writing yeah you're pin finn shinkin and dan
Starting point is 00:29:48 yeah uh yeah this what's cool is I feel like you'll actually get the cryptonian customs like when we When we rewatch Man of Steel, a lot of people would agree that one of the best parts is the first 20 minutes. There's a lot of Krypton there. Actually getting to explore Krypton, but you're only exploring Krypton in the most devastating high-stakes situation, a little bit of the council. It's visually cool.
Starting point is 00:30:09 But you get a sense of what the Kryptonian world is like and very political. And this, I think, is going to capture the soul, the humanity, where in Man of Steel, we only really got in touch with... There's not a criticism in the movie. It's just who we focus on. We get in touch with, like, the top political people who are making all those. calls and stuff and there's a bit of a coldness and a lot of decision making
Starting point is 00:30:28 where here I think we'll actually see the lives that were lost. We can feel the devastation. So much of the time I do not feel that connected to the idea of, like I get it. Factually wise,
Starting point is 00:30:41 it's sad to lose a planet and all these people die. Of course, I understand. That's really sad. I don't ever really feel that loss of Krypton or that weight that comes with it. You better watch the way
Starting point is 00:30:52 you're talking about men of steel right. They're coming for you. Or wasn't that connected to those people in Krypton. Whereas in this, I think this will really be the thing that will get audiences to truly connect with Krypton. Because even the Donner movie has the same thing where it's a lot of stoicism and pondering and talking about shit. This is going to be the humanity. And I think Kara is going to be our connection to Krypton in a very different way than we've ever seen in the way that you're speaking of it, but also what Argo City could do. I think it'll be devastating in a very new way for the story.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I do find the color tint of this trailer because a lot of movies adopt the sort of color tint. Like, Koi and I did a commentary at first time watching the directors on rated version of Watchmen just yesterday. Spoilers for Reject Schedule. And we were discussing like the purposeness possibly of like, oh, why this part of the, why the present storyline is in blue tint and the passes in yellow tint. And I am finding that people are calling this brown. but I wonder if it's like a darker shade of yellow. I think it will be dark yellow to show a juxtaposition to the vibrancy of green sun and of the planets that they go to. I think that's intentional.
Starting point is 00:32:06 But I also think this will change. This is going to be one of those movies when people look at the teaser trailer and then later footage. They're going to be like, whoa, everything changed. Like I think this is seven months a long time. Yeah. Well, the dark yellow is kind of casting a shade over the yellow sun where they get the powers. But I think it's going to be even more enhanced and varied. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Okay. But I do like that we're seeing brown. Or it's brown. Or it's brown. It's like, you know, no one uses brown. You know, no one uses brown.
Starting point is 00:32:28 You know, I feel like brown's really super-girls. It's got enough muddy-looking movie. Everything's always like red, blue, green, yellow. What if we go brown? No one goes brown. This is a whole spectrum of colors in the brown family. Shades of gray, no shades of brown. I want to direct a khaki movie.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And then obviously we've got some ceremonial robes, some kryptonites. I mean, some Kryptonians on Kryptonites. Yeah. I love that white. Man, that screen. I actually love that. I love straight up like Star Lord when in part one.
Starting point is 00:32:58 This to me is what I think the movie's going to look like. Like this looks like the deluxe edition of Supergirl Woman Tomorrow Collection. This is the beautiful re-release and hardcover on display. And I think we're going to get a lot of these visuals. They're just not done yet. I think this is when they take her ship. Ah, yeah, I can see that. The clothes that she's in.
Starting point is 00:33:17 That's an impressive yell. Good job, Millie. Yeah, I think this is when they take her ship because of what point it's at and what she's wearing. That looks so cool. As I imagine she just got into a fight because that's one of the things that the trailer does not show you is she under red, she's physically vulnerable. So while this trailer I think does a good job communicating the emotional vulnerability or at least teasing it, it's the physical vulnerability that they do tease at the end of Superman with her being drunk and how she can be drunk. But also that's kind of why the cover of the, like the sword at the cover
Starting point is 00:33:48 is more thematic. Yeah. And it is some type of like special. mcuffin weapon and well it's to ruthy it's important it's yeah it is but for her to be wielding it and and like thematically of like revenge justice night all these different things too and of course to ruthy but this physical vulnerability is more of one i want to capture and like even in the comic at one point she goes under the green sun where she just can't move and it's just pure torture for yeah it's a really good issue and that i think will make us really connect it'll be weird because it'll be funny to me of how people will take it in one of the things that i've often we've heard people say with Superman, David
Starting point is 00:34:24 Cornswet, is, man, he gets his ass kicked a lot in this movie. About to see it. This one is going to be justified from the beginning because of the fact of the suns that she's under. That green sun issue, one of my favorite issues, was written in one day. No way. Tom King handed in an issue, which you can read in the back
Starting point is 00:34:40 of the deluxe issue that looks like this. And it's very like horse girl coded. It's fine, but it's not as good as the green sun issue. And he handed it in and the editor was like, no, this isn't good enough. And so, he was like, it's doing a day to get the art done. What do we do? He talked with his daughter, and his daughter, Claire was telling him, like, well, if there's a yellow son and a red son, what does a green son do?
Starting point is 00:34:58 And he was inspired by his daughter's asking and wrote that entire issue today handed in history. That's so crazy because that is such an important. That's an important part. That's arguably Ruthie's most important issue and some of the most powerful visuals. Yeah. So to see the arc dip into that moment, I think is going to be so integral, but he wrote that in a day and some of the writing in that issue is crazy good. To describe that green sun arc, if you guys have to play. If you guys have played Last of Us or in the show,
Starting point is 00:35:28 it's the kind of thing when Joel is injured and then suddenly Ellie has to be the hero while the main character is injured and kind of unconscious. Or I guess if you think about it like in Logan, I don't know if there's really a scene like this, but in X23 is taking over and Logan's unconscious, something like that.
Starting point is 00:35:45 So that's that issue. Kara's injured and she's immobile. Because this is very much a lone wolf and cub story. And it's really cool that they, They tell it from the perspective of the cub. Speaking of the cub, that's Ruthie. Ruthie is straight out of the comic. She looks so much younger than I expected.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Oh, I always thought of her as a child, child. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I think of her as like nine. I guess because she, I don't know. And whenever I read the comic, I always, she looked kind of like her age, uh, Supergirl's age to me. She's literally slight, like small as well.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I always thought of her as a kid. Ah, this might be my lack of interpretation. So this is Ruthie, uh, with the sword of such an port. And this is the. cub of the lone wolf and cub and it's really cool because this story is told from voiceover of her in the future so she's telling she's recounting the story and there's some really cool elements to that storytelling method and the writing of this is really interesting because she's got this like voracious appetite like in the first issue they used the word alacrity and i was like
Starting point is 00:36:43 okay fucking strapping in we're gonna fucking like the book uses words that people make fun of me for using and i had to look up some words so it's a really verbose book it's a the vernacular verbose and full of veracity. And I'm really excited for the writing. V for Vendetta, Vagra. My Vigna. My Vigrant. Vengeance! But I think that it's going to be a really cool way, because even in this trailer, there's only like four lines of dialogue, but two of them are like, bars. So I think it's going to have some really
Starting point is 00:37:10 zingy, powerful writing. We actually had a question, just real quick sidebar, someone asking in the chat, if women of tomorrow would be appropriate for a nine or ten-year-old to read? How violent? Like, I think parents expose their kids to different stuff. I think it is probably right on the cusp where if you like talk it through with them, but as far as like reading ability,
Starting point is 00:37:31 if that kid knows alacrity at nine. I mean, like it's a dense book. It's not a, it's not a, yeah, it's not like reading Alan Moore, but it's kind of like reading Alamore. It's not monosyllabic. Like, Dan, this shit's taking.
Starting point is 00:37:43 This is a much hard to read than I thought. Yeah, like I don't know if a kid would enjoy it. And also you'd have to explain a lot to them, but I think it's thematically, uh, pretty dark. Are you guys hot? in here? A little bit. Yeah. Okay, cool. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:00 All right. Ruthie, killing it. Ruthie, more Argo plant. I mean, that's straight up Argo. That's Argo. It's incredible. Look at that. Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. Destroyed that fucking plan. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of cool wide shots in this, man. Yeah. Like that. A little great wide shot. Back to the bar, screaming it up. We got the bus.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I love that that looks like a bus with some, like, rocket strapped to it. So much of the shots the characters are like, she's framed directly in center of frame. And I like when it looks intentional and not like, see, this looks like a different bar to me. Well, this looks straight up like. This looks like the bar that the comic looks like. That's why I think the first bar feels different.
Starting point is 00:38:38 There's no disco ball in this bar. Like it doesn't look like another part of that. It might be, but it feels different enough to me to not bother me. Not that a lot of bars couldn't have like a big blue light, but I feel like. There's blue neon in the other place. Yeah. This just feels more modern,
Starting point is 00:38:55 whereas that later one feels more scummy, but I could just be misreading that. Okay, so one of the things that I've been saying, if we go back to that bar shot or like up here that looks straight up like the ravagersers from Guardians of the Galaxy, one of the things that I've been hoping for, as someone, again, I'll just remind everyone. Now, while Peacemaker Season 2,
Starting point is 00:39:14 I really had a lot of issues with and wasn't a big fan of the Suicide Squad is still my favorite. of the DC era movies, you know, if you're not actually like the Batman or something, but like the Suicide Squad. And of course I love the Superman movie and I love like most James Gunn movies.
Starting point is 00:39:31 But the thing I was most excited for, and I also think Creature Command was extremely underrated. It was that this to look and feel like a different voice. And the problem that I have with how this was pitched, not tonally wise, but the music choice of Calmie by Blondie, and then a lot of the visuals here, is I didn't get the distinct voice
Starting point is 00:39:54 of Craig Gillespie it looked like a big James Gunn influence over it and that was one of the things that is kind of a big detractor for me of this first trailer. I'm not saying the movie will be that but I was really hoping for feeling because that's what makes the universe feel like we're
Starting point is 00:40:10 fleshing on a universe that's not just James Gunn we have to get past James Gunn's DCU and start thinking of just the DCU sure you know I don't go Kevin Feige's MCU you know you really should though even there's a lot of same scenes in that but I don't go Kevin you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:40:26 but I didn't want to watch this and think of James Gunn yeah yeah I get that and I definitely thought of James Gunn while watching this I'm of two minds about it because I don't generally like cosmic stories as much as terrestrial stories in comic books like I I don't generally gravitate towards like a Captain Marvel or a
Starting point is 00:40:44 Guardians of the Galaxy over a Spider Man or an X-Men even the X-Men space stuff I prefer the terrestrial like I don't like the she all as much as I care about, like, Stryker. So, yeah. Yeah, so when I think of Cosmic, I do think of James Gunn as an outlier of like, oh, he speaks it in a way that makes me care. So I'm of two minds because if the, if the Venn diagram of me liking Cosmic is James Gunn and this captures that, yeah, but also when I read the comic Woman of Tomorrow, it thematically has similar archetypal things, but I don't, which is a positive, but I don't disagree that this is way more James Gunn than I was expecting. So I don't know if that's just because they're trying to sell it as a DCU film.
Starting point is 00:41:22 If they're trying to grab those elements to really like, this is doing well. Or if by the time the movie comes out, I'll be like, okay, because I love Craig Gillespie. And I want Craig Gillespie to be, when Craig Gillespie was announced, I was more excited than any announcement other than the comic elements of James's thing. Like, he was the director. I was most like, no way they're doing that. So I hope we get to see more of his DNA. But I don't know if we're going to see everything that's cosmic in space as James because of the nature of it. yeah i don't mind inspiration from other stuff what i'm what i think we need as an audience though
Starting point is 00:41:52 is not another comic book movie that's just aping some other movie or some other genre that came before phase one of marvel when everything felt different like we were talking about like the movies when avengers gathered it felt like five movies well if you look at space opera movies you know um star wars while people think uh while people love guardians the galaxy and they'll be like and james gonna said he's taking stuff from star wars i don't think guardians the galaxy feels like Star Wars. It's different type of vibe overall. It's really funny.
Starting point is 00:42:24 The action's very different. There's no like lightsaber. There's none of this like, it's like Star Wars kind of feels like a religion for people. I wouldn't call that for Guardians of the Galaxy. No, that's fair. There's like a funny winziness to it. And on a very separate note,
Starting point is 00:42:37 we just did a first time watch for 2001 to Space Odyssey, which Guardians 3 took some visual inspirations from. But there's no. Star Wars and Star Wars Guardians in 2001, feel like completely different films. Yeah. Interstellar feels while inspired by 2001 Space Odyssey, very distinct, unique
Starting point is 00:42:56 voice. That's a great example. That Venn diagram of what we're talking about with 2001. That's what I'm hoping this trailer is. Yeah, that's more... The center that is connecting interstellar in 2001 and Guardians. You wouldn't ever compare those, but there is similarities. I'm hoping they're accentuating those. Yeah. Like the the comic is very much like
Starting point is 00:43:11 Lord of the Rings, Logan, in space. True grid in space. True grid. It's a much better call, actually, yeah. And this doesn't, this doesn't feel like that as much as I think it will in the movie. I hope it does feel in the movie. That's the big hope. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:25 But I know they're trying to sell it and I know that James Gunn's style is very popular. So I'm wondering if that's been cranked a little. But I think people want to move past the style. I think that's fair. And again, I'm going to get crap for defending it. I just think that it's marketing versus the movie and I don't know what it's going to be on the day. I'm leaning towards that being a high likelihood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I'd be very surprised because Craig Colesby does have a very different. voiced than James Gunn. Right. And I would hate it for, I would hate it to be a Terminator dark fate situation. Where it gets stifled for the purpose of. Yeah, because the producer was like,
Starting point is 00:43:56 you should make it like this. But I feel like James Gunn's very excited to be hands off and let this movie. Like everything he said was about Craig Gillespie and him being a fan of him. I can't imagine you'd want to, and the point of Supergirls to not feel like Superman. And he just made Superman. So I don't think that would be the case, but I do think advertising wise I could see that benefit.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Well, I hope DC takes some notes and does it very different. trailer for the next one for trailer two i'm gonna call up some people it makes you wonder because there's a certain amount of gunniness that makes sense to have be consistent across everything but at the same time you don't want it to fall into the marvel trap of everything feeling the same exactly phase one versus four yeah and and that's what i'm curious i mean clay faces after this and there's it would be insanely weird if clay face felt anything like a gun filled uh because it has to not but i'm curious if this is just to bridge that gap until it's out fair enough that's fair
Starting point is 00:44:47 devil's advocate if anything peacemaker season two has more in common with supergirl than the superman movie vibe yeah you know and this uh dialogue that's come for somebody doesn't like that season that much yeah this dialogue is paraphrased from the comic there's actually dialogue about like this is going to be not so fun for you yeah so there's a lot of really fun pulls for comic fans and i'm noticing in the trailer she doesn't have her suit a lot of this yeah which is interesting because the opening of the comic is very subdued she just has it yeah she's wearing it the whole time well she gets there's There's a suit reveal because she goes like, you know, it's weird that you're wearing your underwear. Oh, this crane is what, is that the crane that she ends up using at the end of the trailer? The spin? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. This, like, mace. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Yeah, I think Millil Alcohol goes really badass in this. Yeah, I think I'm going to love her a lot. Yeah, I'm really excited. I love badass. She's so tiny, dude. She's like 4-11. I was shocked. But seeing it in this made me realize.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Oh, crimmy. Pause it, please. Made me realize, it looks like fucking pinhead. made me realize it looks like Ryan Airy Ryan Airy Matea Shonard looks like Ryan Oh you see Ryan Airy on YouTube
Starting point is 00:45:56 People are gonna think No there's that guy Screen Crush Someone sent me a message And they're like that looks just like Ryan Air And I googled him I didn't know who he was And I was like I'm like serious
Starting point is 00:46:03 Ryan texted me this morning Oh it looks like this guy Ryan Air Doesn't it? Oh yeah text Ryan back by the way Someone said I was like I totally see it I guess Looks like yeah I guess I know Ryan's face too well
Starting point is 00:46:16 Like, I got a cross from him. Someone tagged me, I thought it was really funny. I got to see it. I see it a little bit. Yeah. If anything, it looks like Risa Fons to me. Oh, I like that. Reesifons?
Starting point is 00:46:28 A little bit. I know Mateo Shonards do well. I really like his work. Like Rust and Bone. And the Old Guard. Oh, Jesus. And we're back. The biggest fan of the Old Guard.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Stelvin's the sequel. Millie Alcock being tiny is a big part of why I think people would underestimate her and she could get away with kicking ass she's a supergirl i think that's also going to be fun for the shot of her next to superman much like rachel brosanhan being tiny definitely because millie alcock i was there is no way she's five five this is an internet lie that's got to be an internet yeah that is a i met her three days ago and that was a tiny human being yeah col coy folded her and put her in his pocket she fit in my overhead compartment i'll protect you from all this pressure i'll take as a crem looking fellow i will kidnap supergirl so this is crem here do you think he's
Starting point is 00:47:14 Looking directly into camera, do you think Krem is taunting Supergirl here or taunting Ruthie? I don't know what scene this is. I think Ruthie. I think that, you know, she gets incapacitated and this is him taunting about killing her father. In the comic, there's a lot of beats of him just being like, yeah, he deserved to die. He was weak. Like the character is about conquering weakness and he enjoys thriving over hurting weak people. So I think Ruthie.
Starting point is 00:47:41 I'm not sure I like this design right now. I like that he looks like a swashbuckler in the comic. I hope this sells me. I'm so far not sold. I'm not a big fan. I mean, it does look like those 80s vibe interpretations that they would do of certain types of those like creepy villains. But there was something that felt more sinister about just a nasty butcher, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:08 something that felt more Viking. The night element is missing. I think why we felt that great night element of Supergirl was she was, fighting a swashbuckling looking guy. He's got the weird facial hair like I have. Like he's like very swashbuckling. Yeah. And that is obviously not an option when he looks cyberpunky.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Yeah, I'm not a big fan. It's like, it's such a redesign. And I don't know. There's something kind of, some might argue that Krem might have a generic look as what we're describing, but it would be different to the genre. I hope that I'm sold on it. But I'm, this is one of the things that I can't tell if I'm too close to the
Starting point is 00:48:44 comic. What I do like is a lighting in a lot of these. The more we slow down this trailer, the more beautiful. I think the trailer actually looks. It's interesting. As we've gone frame by frame, I've liked the trailer markedly more as a visual aesthetic. Yeah, definitely. Because I saw this in a crowd of 100 people on a screen. I didn't really get a chance to look at it. Yeah, I think a lot of this is just from act. That's straight from the comic. That is a straight comic shot. This is when they're traveling the bus. A lot of this looks like it's coming from Act 1. And it slowed down a little bit. it's going slow down before her hand goes over in the bus so okay so she's actually so keep going forward now john i mean the bus shots go they travel by bus when after she loses her ship
Starting point is 00:49:26 and i think having her be the same size does help like similar in size does help for the screen presence is going to share so she is actually going to go protect her in that moment there i couldn't tell for a second if if ruthie was actually kind of helping her but this does look like planet no this straight up does I will not argue and I just want something I just looks
Starting point is 00:49:48 because the comic that's the thing is the comic is so unique in its look I've never read anything like it I've never
Starting point is 00:49:55 and Billquist is art yeah and I'm like that's what you got to capture but I'm wondering if the things that are done first are the things
Starting point is 00:50:02 that aren't rendered like this is a shot of a set right like this is practical this is what you'd have done first I do work
Starting point is 00:50:09 though, but we're the 5% that have read the comment, right? I would be very surprised if all this was practical, knowing how films are made today. More practical than the, the CGI sweeping vistas. Those are practical lasers. Yeah, that's definitely Millie. That's why she got cast. She can shoot lasers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, oh,
Starting point is 00:50:25 you're the one. Practical. Practical, they really built the ship. Yeah, they flew into a mountain. That might be like towards the finale. Maybe? I don't know. I mean, the movie's not going to be a one-to-one. No, but if that's the spot I think it is that's like it you said and I like this mirror like when
Starting point is 00:50:42 crypto is laying on Superman in the last movie healing him yeah I think this so far looks better shot than Superman I mean the DPs a genius yeah like the visuals go back a little bit oh we'll talk about that we'll talk about the lobo like look at this fucking shot that's the stuff the comic yeah yeah this is a beautiful shot but this is what half a second in watching it regular time like we don't get to see a lot of this because I think it's not done This shot right here feels the most like moving of tomorrow. 100%. Her falling to her knee looking down with the kind of light.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Sky in transitory color. Is that green sun? Is that the green? Might be. And that would be her weakening and falling into the ground? There is a distinct green hue here on the horizon. Yeah. And the colors.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Oh yeah. This is the shot. I remember, yes, at the trailer event, I freaked out about this because I blinked and caught it. And we talked about it. Yeah, I believe that's the green sun. Okay. Yeah, that's cool. Lobo.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Digging through the dish. and burning through the witches. Man, I want zombie to score his movie. Well, I want the movie and to be scored by it. It's just funny. Like, even when you read Lobo, it's like, yeah, it's Jason Momoa. Yeah, it's like, it's like, who else would you do? It's like, well, when we watch Watchmen, like, well, who else would be the comedian, but Jeffrey D. Morgan?
Starting point is 00:51:53 Right. Like, there's nobody else. And yet, he was Aquaman playing pretty much Lobo. Yeah, but. He looks great, man. I like how they didn't give a full look. They're saving that for the second trailer. And we got the cigar.
Starting point is 00:52:05 We got the things we needed. to feel confident. Will he get his dolphins? Space dolphins, baby. I mean, I think he's going to have a motorcycle. I think he'll say frack and bastiche. And the cigar makes me happy the spikes. Oh, it's from that one scene they keep going to.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Now that we've slowed this trailer down, it's mainly just been from this one set piece, the action stuff. I think that's what they went into post-production on and got done for the trailer. I think, honestly, this is all from like two to three different segments that they rush to get finished to pod out. But yeah, I like the way he's looking
Starting point is 00:52:36 so far and you know he's just going to look great and i like how it's going to be with practical makeup and stuff but the reason why i think lobo is a good addition now granted i don't know what they're doing different with crem if they're going to actually give him something enhanced where he can fight supergirl but you know superman has a really hard superman himself has a hard time beating lobo and to throw in a villain who is capable of beating or keep or keeping up a fight with supergirl when supergirl is under yellow sun yeah i think what could raise the stakes. I don't know how much Lobo will be in here. I hope he's not just something to set up the future or some bullshit like that. But with his power set and I think
Starting point is 00:53:16 his type of maniacal nature is a good fit to go up against the anger that is within Cara as well. Yeah, I think so. And the size is going to be crazy because Cara is so tiny and Jason Will was a big dude. That's going to be a really fun fight visually. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. I love the Lobo shot. I think they did a really good job keeping it subtle, keeping it like a little under wraps, but still giving every comic fan. Like, they did it. They put it to the teaser. Yeah. Just like a Kryptonian. I dig it. I dig it. My dolphin. Ruthie looks so much like the comic. Like of anyone. I wish she had her helmet though. I think she feels like the Bilquist's art. So yeah, that's a great shot. Man, that's beautiful. I think the variety. I'm actually seeing more of the variety now that we're slowing.
Starting point is 00:54:04 it down. This looks like the comic to me. Yeah, that's a gorgeous shot. Like, I'll go back to that shot, John. Oh, my God. I love the, like, how she's, go back for a little bit more, please. Like, we'll freeze it on the, the very next one. There it is. Yeah. Like, watching the way, oh, fuck it. That's like, man, a steel shit right there. The way, I don't even not describe that. She breaks the sound barrier, yeah. The sound barrier is. Well, breaks through the atmosphere. But I love the, like, sun on the screen left that she's coming through screen right and, like, how wide it is, making her look small. all against this huge thing. Oh, it's so beautiful. It's a beautiful shot. And that feels like
Starting point is 00:54:38 Bill Quist's art to me. Yeah. I love this shot a lot. There's a lot of, I did not appreciate the visual as much until we did this. I think it was doing a lot fast, man, because I didn't either. This has been really, this trailer's gone up for me. Yeah, yeah, no, it really has. I was like, yeah, I like, I said it in the reaction. Like, I liked it. I wasn't in love with it. This is like really enhancing my opinion. Anyway, thank you. I really liked it. I'm starting to love the visuals. And that was the thing that I was hindered by the first watch. and then the reveal shot well this is what I mean by
Starting point is 00:55:09 the yellow in the trailer because I think the dark yellow is intentional which people are interpreting as brown but as you can see this is more of a traditional bright granted this is also the most like flat looking of all the lighting that we have seen so we were talking about death this is the most least visually appealing part
Starting point is 00:55:26 of the trailer sadly yeah just looks like 9 a.m. on a Monday morning yeah but I think the brightness and the cleanness is symbolic of the arc that she's going on through this movie. Yeah, and literally getting back to the yellow sun, like, thematically and narratively. Or if this is just the next moment after the fight, because she has the crane here.
Starting point is 00:55:45 That's true. But I like how she is using, like, a barbaric, like, crane. Yeah. Well, I forget what those are called. Mace. Like a Mace. That's what they're called Mace or. That's what Daryl Dixon uses to defeat Walker's all the time now.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Mace. Uh, any audience stuff? I was curious what, I don't know what the audience thinks of this trailer yet other than comments. Well, how about this? We're going to do the Boys Season 5. Do we immediately hop to Super Chats? Do we want to talk about... Oh, we've got to do the Better Man trailer.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Better Man! Better Man! We got... Yeah, we're going to disable the Super Chats right now, guys. So we're going to go through all of them, but you can't contribute anymore. You can only contribute Super Stickers from here on out, game. Thank you, everyone. But yeah, let's do the Better Man trailer.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Did you were able to... Do what you did prior, so... We could just watch it. Yeah, it's be efficient. All right. So for those who don't know, Ethan T. in particular has been asking every week
Starting point is 00:56:41 for many, many, many weeks for us to watch the Better Man trailer. I keep forgetting what this is. I've never seen it. Wouldn't you call it right before we aired monkey man? Yeah, monkey man. Which was a Dev Patel movie. But yeah, I haven't seen the trailer.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And I thought this was like some terrible movie. And then we saw the Rotten Tomato score. And people really love this. Phil. Oh, never mind. So the slow burn cell of Greg on Betterman. And this is paramount. So again, if we get into a certain block or something or some type of
Starting point is 00:57:12 demonetization, this might be muted in the future. We'll let you know. But let's go, John. Let's finally see why Ethan T. wants us to watch this. Have you seen this trailer? I think it's not in a theater when it came out, but I don't remember it. I just remember I like Robbie Williams. Honoring this request. There we go. Better man.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I'm Robbie Williams. I'm one of the biggest pop stars in the world. This is my story. But I'm not going to tell it in an ordinary way. Because I don't see myself how others seeming. Yes. I'm always been a little less devolved. This is so weird.
Starting point is 00:57:58 This is so strange. I love it. How do you make a biopic? feel the same by the stars of the day he lowered it tiny you can't learn it you're either born with it
Starting point is 00:58:08 this is like that thing where everyone's a Muppet except one person but in reverse and he's a monkey how strange I love it so much as a lover of
Starting point is 00:58:21 bold swings I'm not quite picking up on the thematic resin minutes for him being a monkey I feel like he feels other he feels like different for everyone else So...
Starting point is 00:58:33 Or he doesn't feel as evolved. Shut off, you kid! Ah! Fuck off, grab me. And I got. So is it just a traditional biopic? But with him as a monkey! I mean, damn, this looks expensive and huge.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It looks so big. I mean, I can't imagine just animating the monkey. Do I look like a pop star to you? Oh, is it like... Is it like, is the theme of being a monkey, too, of like, the way how we treat celebrity? Yeah. Prove I can make it on my own. Prove to who?
Starting point is 00:59:14 This doesn't look like a traditional biopic format, actually. This doesn't look like the Michael or Bohemian Rhapsody. You're going to laugh. Do it on the inside, yeah? The animation looks good. Dement. I love that choice of words. I think you give a fuck what everyone is.
Starting point is 00:59:31 that's a good line look at the color palette on this thing it's vibrant man it looks so heartfelt and soulful and I really like British women too you know it's a sexy I hope so
Starting point is 00:59:53 the story starts I'm love in angels and sleep it was a Christmas release dude So for this, they said that he went with the monkey thing partly because it's like to do with feeling less evolved and kind of a slave to your, you know, base instincts as well as the performing monkey motif of being a showman. Dance monkey dance kind of thing. I like, and I call the better evolved thing, but I like, I really like the othering of, you know, the visual. Also, it definitely stands out from other biopics.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah, it looks actually heartfelt and poignant. That's kind of a movie I would like to just watch on my own. and sit back. I don't know about reacting to it. Did other people have reacted? Have you looked? No. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I wait for other people that do stuff first. Yeah. Like the long walk. I'm going to let other people walk first and eventually I'll walk too. And then I'll go, why don't we get as many views?
Starting point is 01:00:45 Why after I posted this a month later and everyone's watched reactions? It doesn't make any sense to me. What's even happening? Oh, Ethan Hawking on Rogan didn't know that. We should have got more. Come on. Damn, Jeremy Johns looks super happy.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Let's do the thing that I'm sure he hates. Let's just go to his rating. Let's judge everything. Go to his rating. Just to see his rating. Awesome tacular. Jeremy Johns rarely gives anything an awesome tacular. Wow, that's high praise.
Starting point is 01:01:09 11 months ago. Was this last Christmas? Is it that recent? Yeah. That recent? A year ago? I mean, it was Christmas. I didn't think.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I thought it was this winter 2025 is January. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. Or well, I guess Christmas limited theatrical. I don't know. Actually, maybe. Hey.
Starting point is 01:01:29 You're right, man. That was a really good trip. It was a good trailer. That was pretty cool. That was good. Thanks, Ethan T. Hey, we love cinema here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I don't have too many thoughts other than those. My thought expenditures got down a little bit. We did some things. We've been doing this an hour and a half. It's usually when we're pretty broken at this point in the street. Thank you, Ethan T. Thank you, Ethan T. Uh, kill Bill, the whole bloody affair.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Talk about briefly? Yeah, yeah. Talk about this four-hour movie briefly. I think it was fine. I kind of want to. Did you stay for the post credit scene? there was a I stayed there wasn't a post-credit scene yes there fucking was at when after when a post-credit scene is a post-credit scene the the black and white like the the drive or was there something after that no it was like literally when the credits are done I guess that it went for all the credits what was it it almost ruined the entire movie for me was it Tarantino talking shit about Matt Lillard no because that would bother me no but anyway let's talk good about the movie okay yeah Kill Bill, the whole bloody affair.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So for you guys who haven't heard, Tarantino has re-released his film, added in, so the animation part with Owen Rishi, that has a whole plot that is the thing with the elevator where she fights the assassin. Yeah. That is not in there in the original theatrical cut. So after in the theatrical,
Starting point is 01:02:52 when she kills the boss and it cuts to her in her 20s. Yeah. So they cut out that whole thing in the middle of the elevator scene. Which is solid. I won't say whatever. happens in it, but I do think it actually enhances the way volume one ends. I agree. I like the ending a lot more this time. It's crazy. Kill Bill's always been one of my favorite movies. And then watching this, I was like, I don't think I could watch it any other way now. Like,
Starting point is 01:03:19 this is the way to, the definitive way to do it. It's, I can't imagine watching it. Half of it now. Yeah. Yeah. It's so big. it changes the whole thing because they they uh i'm going to be spoilery about it is the in the original cut they don't have in the original ending of kill bill one bill says to the sophy girl first in the in the original cut there's like music going over it there's like because the movie's ending yeah so they have music going over it we're in the bloody affair there's no music it's a sound design and also uh she in the theatrical cut when she tells sophy in the trunk give me your arm you don't see her cut the other arm but in this movie you see her cut the other arm
Starting point is 01:03:57 but in this movie you see her cut the other arm and in the theatrical cut she Bill, they're out of line where the movie literally ends on Bill saying does she know her daughter still alive right which is so different this way and I did remember that I remember the ending being so different because I was like
Starting point is 01:04:14 that's not what I remember but I remember how and it was so much better served this way yeah recontextualizes the whole experience because you get to be surprised with her well and when I saw this your cut slightly different but I saw this a number of years ago and I had completely forgotten any stuff about the daughter and that blew my mind i forgot she had a daughter yeah yeah so i was just like
Starting point is 01:04:33 because i haven't seen this in theaters so it's been years for me so yeah if you watch it in this version this is no way of selling this is i'm only talking to people who know killbill because if i just spoiled it for you i'm so sorry but if uh if in the in the in the if you watch it in that version not knowing her daughter was alive that then you get to be in the bride's pov versus when you watch kill bill too the whole time you're waiting for her to find out yeah i love being her eye line yeah and i and it does make the this experience so much it makes all of their stuff sweeter it makes their relationship so different because you're rejoining their relationship in real time yeah you're not waiting for it yeah you're getting to experience it yeah also love the animated sequence
Starting point is 01:05:16 the animated sequence is brilliant so john when you saw bloody affair years ago yeah what did they did they have this fight in the in because this bloody affair did not have the famous deleted scene where bill fights people in the it's like it's the bill has one fight scene and they completely cut it out yeah and i thought it was going to be in this but it wasn't you could you could find the scene online yeah okay but they don't have the extended animation scene no because i think that was only finished recently and i think it was probably it's got something because they teased releasing this every handful of years anyway and i think maybe that might be part of why they did it now No, for real. So in the animated movie, if you guys haven't seen it, if it hadn't been a while, there's the boss who kills Owen Rishi's parents, and he has a main henchman who does it. So in the theatrical hood, she only kills the boss, but you don't see her kill the main henchman, the main assassin guy. So the next eight minutes is dedicated to that part.
Starting point is 01:06:17 And when it first played, because Olivia and I is one of her favorite movies, too, have played we looked at each other and we were like that was cool but hey i don't think it was entirely necessary to have it but then when we get to lucy lou at the end it works so different and never dawned on me that this is also lucy lou's movie like this is the thematic version of her becoming the thing she sought to take revenge on and yes is that in kill bill one yes but here's the difference in kill bill theatrical cut by not showing her kill the main head assassin and only the boss, that is not really driving home the point that she's becoming what she is because she is Bill's main assassin. She is Bill's top dog
Starting point is 01:07:04 hardest assassin to kill. So that way she is becoming the main thing that they actually cut out. She's not Bill. She's that guy in the elevator. So to complete, because she's just an assassin for hire. Right. And then when you get to that tragedy there, oh shit, this is also her movie, and it never dawned on me that this is also Lucy Lou's film. Yeah. So, yeah, I thought it was stronger, and the Crazy 88 fight
Starting point is 01:07:31 moments before it happened. I looked to Olivia, I'm like, is it going to be in color? And it was in color. I was like, and there's stuff in it that's not in the theatrical. I know that fight pretty well. And there's stuff in it that's expanded. And it was the whole thing was in color, and it
Starting point is 01:07:47 was fucking gorgeous. I mean, it works as black and white, but man, is it pop better in color. So yeah, I think it is the definitive way to watch it. I will tell you what the post-credit scene is soon, but I want to hear your thoughts. So I hadn't seen it in some theaters. I saw it, what year did it come out? 2005? Five, I think. I think it's
Starting point is 01:08:03 the 20th anniversary. So I saw it in 2005. I was 2003. Oh, 2003. Yeah, so I was 15. Yeah, so I was 15. I remember, so I still have a really hard time with, I don't know if I can say this word on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Grape. I have a really hard time with that as a narrative. So I remember when the scenes happen in the hospital, I was really turned off from the movie because I remember thinking they made the guys in that scene too cool where they were like likable, but I was 15 and rewatching it now. I was like, oh, there's this pieces of shit. But as a 15 year old, I didn't like that being a narrative. So I was like kind of turned off from the movie.
Starting point is 01:08:42 And then I remember the way it ended, I was like, that's a little cheesy because I didn't know film yet. Like I did not understand the coolness of the choice. And then when I saw the second one, I thought it was fine. mine, but I was expecting the action of the first one again. So I remember both let me down in different ways. Yeah. So I'd never watched them again.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I considered this like lower tier, Tarentina, uh, watching it now as a grown ass man with the knowledge of the, the whole journey and then like with more film knowledge. What an experience. Uh, it went for,
Starting point is 01:09:08 I literally gave the first, I gave it two stars and now it's four. Like it doubled in my experience. Uh, I thought that obviously I've always thought the violence was beautifully rendered, but the emotional things work so much better for me. All of the, the,
Starting point is 01:09:20 the, the, the, and like Michael Madsen's brokenness and the consequences of being a piece of shit as a person register so much more like the consequences of being an assassin for iron hire your life isn't great like yeah I love the metaphor of the sword and and what that meant like all of it worked as a grown man yeah I just think I saw it too early and I think I was an image I was already an immature 15 year old much less a 15 year old seeing it yeah so I I had a great time with it I really loved it Greg gave me my tickets thank you great and if you get to experience it with
Starting point is 01:09:50 the full chapter is like how chapter one, because they tell it in a weird nonlinear way, but the format's great. But the chapter one of her being a person without a daughter, but then killing the mother and the daughter there and the movie ending with her having her daughter. Yeah. Oh, this is a cool, like narrative structure they're actually telling.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I had a similar thing with Scarface where I didn't remember the second half of Scarface. Well, I only remembered the cool stuff. Yeah. And I didn't see it for like 10 years. So for 10 years, I was like, why would I watch a movie that's like advocating for drug dealers? that are thriving.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Most people don't remember the rest of that stuff. People love Scarface. But that's the thing. It's like I thought of Scarface as like a bad narrative that doesn't deliver on what it should. And then I rewatched it last year and I was like, wait, is Scarface a great cautionary tale? And I had the same thing with Killbearer. I was like, I think it succeeds in all the things I thought it failed that. It was beautiful, brilliant.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Fucking loved it. Loved it. So the credits sprawl. And. We're about to leave. And then a thing pops up. The Lost Chapter. Olivia and I freaking out.
Starting point is 01:11:00 I thought it was going to be the scene. They're going to restore it because I'm like, that makes sense. The Lost Chapter. It starts to go. Tarantino's voice, he's voicing Bill. All right. What proceeds is what I thought was kind of a spit in the face to fans.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Genuinely. It almost ruined the entire. higher thing for us. It's only eight minutes long. It is the Fortnite thing. It is animated with like shitty, like not as good Spider-verse stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Tonally, it's kiddish. She has her, so what this chapter is, it's, I think it takes place right after she kills Vernita Green. And it's the girl with the crane, her sister is going after her. And he calls this the lost chapter,
Starting point is 01:11:48 meaning this was something that couldn't be in the original film and you watch it and you're like what a load of shit like he made millions of dollars wrote the bullshit for Fortnite what proceeds is a childish thing that has
Starting point is 01:12:09 a banana character terrible dialogue action that is like gun action that is not unique or cool they don't even call it the pussy wagon They change it. Yet they have swear words. There's like a teleportation moment.
Starting point is 01:12:25 It becomes science fiction in it's eight minutes long. I'm like, where would this have ever fit in your narrative? What the hell? This is clearly, it was the only, like this sounds like a studio skit. This sounds like a skit. What I exactly told people. What?
Starting point is 01:12:40 Remember the Ron Howard episode? Yeah. Where they watched the Ron Howard movie. Yeah. Brilliant, beautiful. And then the credits are like, oh, it's still going. Yeah. And then it completely ruins the entire.
Starting point is 01:12:50 sounds like of the studio, and especially Tarantino voicing it, this sounds like, make-belief. When it was done, I'm like, that was awful. We just looked at each other, like, that was really bad. And then we just sent the car ride sound, like, wow, that's like, I can't stop thinking about how, like, dad that was. I was like, this is the last thing you're leaving your audience with. I'm so glad I didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Oh, shit. Because I didn't like the movie, and then I did, I would have not again. Dude, it fucking, like, it was like, why would you do this to the pants? He made a Fortnite ad at the end of his masterpiece. It's a fortnight movie. ad that doesn't fit in at all tonely stylistically it is I thought it was like an insult that seems maybe everyone who sat through this for four to half hours maybe don't make your 10th movie tarentina maybe maybe you're not the guy anymore like as with the credits when the credits were
Starting point is 01:13:37 going we were going back and forth she's like you know I think to be she was like I think to be a cool like prequel miniseries they could make it I'm like I think they should do kill bill three they should do that like we were going back and yeah we're like we were going back and forth and then right when it was done, we're like, I don't think you should continue anything. I don't think you should do anything. Like, I guess this is who he is now, you know. And it's weird to watch the Restoration Pure Film way. And then the sellout thing at the very end.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Attached to the art. Wow. Tarantino loves Fortin. Obviously, it's from the heart. Everyone knows. Like, I think maybe you can maybe enjoy it as a thing, but it's definitely not. Even if it was in the script originally, it's, definitely changed for fucking
Starting point is 01:14:20 fortnight i was missing the teleportation elements yeah i was missing the science fiction special juice element that bill makes to give her superpowers when there wasn't a banana based character i noticed and i was wondering why no potassium here and the animation isn't good either oh yeah it was
Starting point is 01:14:37 really it was really not the crazy 88 fight was originally supposed to all be bananas oh that makes sense they could only afford the yellow track is anyone in the chat did anyone the chats are they defending fortnight banana i can this was so bad I was so upset wow I was like we should have left I had the good taste in our house so glad I did because I had a good
Starting point is 01:14:57 time also the fact that I was like yeah I thought that was a post credit you're like eight minutes I was like certainly not certainly not yeah you can't the fact they called the lost chapter meaning this is so this is part of it so why'd you do this such bad writing like and be like and it's there sister. Yeah. Like that sounds so thin. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Anyway, want to read some Super Chats? On that note, I'm so glad you asked me what I thought first. All right, on that note, let's super chat.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I mean, still, definitive way to watch it, brilliant time. I would just say skip that. Finish the credits, turn it off. Finish the credits, leave. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Fucking hell. Wow. Oh, boy. All right, gang. It's all right. It's all right. We'll fix it. We've got a bunch.
Starting point is 01:15:47 We'll fix it. All right. Here we go. We got some super chats. Thank you guys for chiming in. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Screen speak. You're up first. Appreciate you. How to get more views and likes on my normal videos. I don't seem to get as many as I do on my shorts. What can I do to get people interested in my movie channel? Gosh, that is, every time I think I got to figure it out, you fucking, I'm great. I'm performing.
Starting point is 01:16:14 So much of the time, you know, you got to learn SEO. You've got to learn timing. Everyone has a different algorithm for their channel, and it's very common for shorts to get more views. YouTube really promotes that. It's like shorts get more views, but ad revenue pretty awful on it. Doesn't translate.
Starting point is 01:16:32 It's pennies. Yeah, it's really not great. Maybe you can use it to help promote another video, but even then the views don't really translate that well. And if you're mainly doing shorts, they might be only prioritizing your shorts over your normal videos. And your audience might want shorts, and then you defeat the purpose of.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And so that's why we're trying to be consistent with our live streams. That way it actually gets pushed more to our audience now because if we're only doing it once and a while. It took a while for us to. Yeah. It's been like growing steadily. Yeah. So yeah, that's a much deeper question. You have to like literally look up a bunch of YouTube videos and you have to, you have to study your analytics, like a mofo.
Starting point is 01:17:09 It's a lot of monotonous. And every month, it's a new deep dive for me every month. Because the thing is YouTube is always changing how to get your video successful. They're always changing it. And if you're running your own channel, it is just kind of a pain in the ass. But rewarding when you figure it out. My October is the worst month I've ever had on my channel since I've been using it actively. So I also know a lot of people are struggling with like the late fall.
Starting point is 01:17:35 But I've had to like change my thumbnail style. I've had to change my titling style. I've had to, you know, do everything I could. So it just, it's trial and error for me. Yeah. And they are put on a smaller scale. They also start to favor. and push stuff and you never really know and then they want before it was like you want to get more
Starting point is 01:17:52 views from your subscribers now they care about a thing called reach where you want to get it from your not subscribed as much yeah then you hear a lot of people do intros on videos of like i'm noticing like 51% of you or 60% of you aren't subscribed i'm like well youtube's kind of doing that intentionally yeah uh to push it so yeah it's just uh it's complicated man you got to be really consistent though that the main thing is consistency at the end of the day it's consistency but also evaluating if you just keep doing the same thing over and over without evaluating then you're never going to grow
Starting point is 01:18:20 I wish I could give like the most prophetic advice but I really can't. I've already asked it's all good we appreciate any insights Shane Adams, thank you for chiming in Shane loved the Supergirl trailer
Starting point is 01:18:36 might be biased because I love the comic but I can understand the skepticism because of the Guardians of the Galaxy feel however I love Guardians movies and people People are overlooking Craig Gillespie. Yeah, it's not the dislike for Guardians. It's the idea of just wanting something different. That's what audiences really want.
Starting point is 01:18:54 They want something different. They want something unique. I think the nostalgia farming is not going to work as strong. What's I'm wrong about something? I mean, I've got AI for that. A Disney movie will do it. A good nostalgia farm. But for this new age, as superhero cinema is having a hard time,
Starting point is 01:19:08 you've got to do something different in order to regain an audience. otherwise people are going to be like, it's just more the same. And the excitement, I think, we all had for the slate was, oh, we're going from Superman to Supergirl to Clayface. Those are all so different. Oh, we're going from Creature Commandos, Peacemaker. Like, the variety is the thing. I think they know that, both from the launch and also from my experience in talking with them. I do think this personally, I think this trailer was to sell more than it's exactly the film's tone.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And I think that makes sense this early out, but I don't want people to just assume I'm shilling. I just, I hope that as well. Well, they're trying to get a lot of trailers up in front of Avatar. Yeah. That's the main goal. And it makes sense. It's the big movie of the year. Yeah, it's the billions of dollar movie.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I hope it fails. People just go over the trailers. Apparently they're releasing the Odyssey prologue thing with 70 millimeter prints of One Battle. So I'm going to go. Oh, that way One Battle is so hyper sold out because I was trying to get tickets just to watch One Battle. I'm going to see it for the Odyssey. I mean, I'm going to see about one battle again, but I didn't know the Odyssey and then I read that today. I was literally just trying to get it.
Starting point is 01:20:12 trying to go for one battle yeah i saw it what's going on no seats available i want to see it in 70 millimeter because we saw it in iMacs we did i want to see it in 70 millimeter was 70 millimeter was it yeah that screen's just slightly ratio but the universe imax is a 70 millimeter format but universal i max is yeah the it's not always the square aspect right and that's what i was missing and i want to see it like blah but thanks for the thanks for support and i'm glad you're very very positive i'm glad you read the comic and that's true that i didn't think about that there are some people who are they do see guardians and they go, I like guardians, I want to watch.
Starting point is 01:20:46 That's what I'm saying. I think they're selling that. There will be that audience and I'm just not that audience member personal. And I feel like the numbers are going to speak to. How's it doing? I mean, I don't know how it's doing right now. All right. But I'm curious what the
Starting point is 01:21:02 Zite guy says about it. You know, they're going to combine all the trailer numbers from every single upload they did. And then they're going to go, this is the most popular trailer ever shown in the history of mankind. I'm so glad we didn't get Doomsday this morning at like 5 a.m. I would have been up.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I know I checked. I woke up. I'm a man of my word. I hated it, but I was up. Checking. Can we move on, please? Neither. All right.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Knave. Thank you for chiming in. I think Supergirl might be better than Superman. I think you have seven months to decide that. I think it very much could be because Superman had to do setup and combine and they're not directly adapting something where I think there's a better,
Starting point is 01:21:40 is it easier a guide? when you're adapting something specific. Yeah. Which is weird they don't do it more often. I know. When the comic is a movie. Yeah, the comic's so cinematic and it's the writing is so perfect for this.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Like some comics should be shows. Sure. But then there's some comics where you're like, there's a movie right here. Just make that. This is one of those. And you're okay, you know?
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah, I have high stakes and high hopes for this. I think that's why Zach Snyder's least divisive film is 300. Right. Because it is one comic. Yeah, follow that, even though he makes changes, it's a formula, and if it's right here, make that, you know. Absolutely, all right. Thank you, Knave, expert criminal.
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Starting point is 01:23:07 every week to watch Koi and I and John every week. Thank you for doing this. man, this really means a lot. I'm always tired, and I always wonder, I'm, like, just dying too fast. And then I did the, I saw all the raps, and I realized that I was on seven different podcasts that made people's top 10. And that's not everything I do.
Starting point is 01:23:23 And it really hit me that, like, I'm outputting enough for the exhaustion I feel. And it felt really good. So you guys, like, help my sanity a bit because I, I think I'm a little bitch a lot. Like, when I'm tired, I'm like, I do YouTube. I'm not like a coal miner. Why am I fucking exhausted? But then I was, I was tagged in seven different shows of hundreds of times. And I was like, oh, I'm doing too much.
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Starting point is 01:24:00 DC. Thing I'm happy about is the cinematography and lighting doesn't look like Superman. Feel like that was a bit of an issue with Marvel recent stuff. was that they hardly felt unique and just sort of bland. We went frame by frame, and I definitely felt like it was a really stunning visual palette
Starting point is 01:24:19 when we slowed it down. And I stand by the fact that it's out in seven months, so I think we haven't seen. This is the tip of the iceberg visually, so I'm excited. Oh, there's so many scenes. There's so much to cover. Yeah. We haven't even really got like a full space shot yet.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Right, you know. Like with that one fraction of yelling. There's so much to go cover. And that taste of green planet. yeah man I feel like you ain't seen nothing yet you think Comet
Starting point is 01:24:45 is a horse I'm so curious about Comet's such a weird character Comet's a pre-crisis character I'm not going to reveal why he's weird but Comet is a Pegasus and it's a character from another era
Starting point is 01:24:57 I'm really curious if they do that formerly a human right or something and then and then turn into it and it is something that it would be tricky to navigate in a modern film but I think you got to go full
Starting point is 01:25:09 weird, man. It'd be crazy. I think you got to go full weird. James and I were talking about the evolution of comic book film at that event. And we were talking, I brought up the X-Men suits. And I was like, I feel like this is one of those things where there's a visual language evolution that this comic could be. Like when we look at the X-Men black leather up until today's modern suits. I'm like, this could be like a launching point of like a visual aesthetic. And we had a really cool talk about the evolution. And then I brought up pre-crisis versus post-crisis. And I was like, I've been seeing what I hope the DCU to be as like a post-crisis comic book thing. and he's like, you're a nerd coin.
Starting point is 01:25:41 I was like, that's true. Yeah. We had a really good talk about the scaling. I think safety with movies has to be done with. Yeah, dude. The reason why is because we consume so much media beyond movies and shows. All of us are practically consuming media in some form or another, so we're constantly craving something different.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Yeah. So, same Csies has to be done with. And so, yeah, I like the way this is looking, and I hope the movie leans more into that in their post-production. And weird leaves an impact. Yes. We just watched 20 years. later the bone temple weird as hell
Starting point is 01:26:11 I love that movie it seems to weird ass movie and weird stuff is unique stuff I talked about that movie for an hour outside the theater
Starting point is 01:26:18 I haven't done that with most movies lately well weird doesn't always equal good true but it does leave impact but it does leave impact yeah
Starting point is 01:26:26 well and it's a swing like I'll take weird because at least you're swinging for something rather than the same thing I've seen and if you've seen 28 years later you know Samson is swinging something but people forget
Starting point is 01:26:37 that's why we forget that's why Guardians of the Galaxy was such a hit. It was weird and different. And good. Yeah. You got to be weird,
Starting point is 01:26:45 different, good. Guys, that's it. Just make it weird, different and good. Simple. How hard is that to do? Come on.
Starting point is 01:26:52 All right. Frankenstein. Weird different good. Different good. One battle after another. Weird. Different good. All box office hits.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Weird, different good. Lilo and Stitch. Finance of Freddy's two. Minecraft movie. Weird. Different good. Lilo and Stitch. A shot for shot,
Starting point is 01:27:05 but some shot. Weird different good. Hit the three quadrants. That's how it's done, guys. Three triaggrinds, I don't know. Silhouetted animator, interesting to note. Thank you for noting. The newspaper date that Crypto Tinkles on reads Thursday, October 4th.
Starting point is 01:27:22 The only recent dates that matches with is 2018 and 2029, so some daily bugle editor forgot the weekday. Whoa, that is fucking specific. That is some sleuthin. I respect the sleuthing. Maybe the first Monday in this. this universe was on different day. Yeah, that's true. The vast multiverse out there, and their calendar has got all
Starting point is 01:27:45 to be a little different. I appreciate it. I didn't even think to look up the dates. That's such a funny thing. Yeah, that is so, I respect that. That's the Merrick Voss shit. I respect you. I was going to say, is that a date significant to comic
Starting point is 01:27:56 publishing coin? 2009 hasn't happened yet. Well, no. Well, no, what was the other date? 2018. The comic came out after the pandemic, So it wouldn't have been there. Well, October 4th.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I'm trying to think of it. No, not that I know of. That's a, I'm going to get some Googling, but I, no. Appreciate you. What's his next question? We're moving on. Thank you, Silhouetted Animator goes on to say, we got to have one way or another by Blondie.
Starting point is 01:28:25 If they're pulling out, call me from the same era, I'm on a get you, get you, get you, get you, get you one way. Did you like the song choice for Call Me? This one, we didn't discuss that. I thought it made sense because it's someone like offering help. like to me it feels like a super girl anthem of like you know i got you call me like to me it made sense and it's also that punk rock that girl power high energy yeah it fits narratively it fits it fits good good contribution man yeah look at us look at daddy harry to do a came in
Starting point is 01:28:55 october fourth was the debut of dick tracy oh and this movie is definitely honoring dick tracy obviously yellow dick tracy she doesn't have a dick And kids like to trace comics Here we go October 4th It all makes sense And what else makes sense Is Jordan Garza
Starting point is 01:29:18 Chiming in Love to hear from you You Yo Love you guys Hope your December Has been jolly Jolly
Starting point is 01:29:26 Miracle shout out Hell yeah Coy I appreciate your support On my animal man art Trying to grow my page And y'all Can't appreciate some
Starting point is 01:29:37 handmade art. So thanks for real. Jordan Garzer. I've got something to say that's a compliment, not an insult to make sure it comes out that way. I love you. I see your name all the time. You're always supportive. You're always great. I didn't even realize that was your art and I shared it because how good it was not because it was yours. That's a compliment. I saw it and I was like, oh, this is a dope art. And I just immediately shared it now that I know it's yours. So glad I did. You're a delight. Can't wait to AI his art. Just scan it. Make sure you steal all the style. All of the years of work. Might as well. Don't prompt, my guy.
Starting point is 01:30:04 You know, you could draw away faster if you just, like, steal it, type in a few words. Plagiarize it. Like McDonald's. We're democratizing art. For the every man. For the people who don't want to go through the hassle of making art. You want to skip the trauma of making yourself an artist.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Boy, oh boy, do I have some buttons for you. A silhouetted animator. Thank you for a three-peats. The alien bar in this honestly reminds me of the fixed point bar in Legends of Tomorrow's final season where time travelers and aliens hanged out and had earthly knick-knacks point bar arrow verse
Starting point is 01:30:43 your boy didn't watch Legends of Tomorrow I apologize there were a lot of shows on the CW so it doesn't aesthetically look that similar to it but I guess like theme wise and point-wise I guess is what he's getting out here I highly doubt they're taking from Legends of Tomorrow
Starting point is 01:30:58 I forgot we got humans in that one Marvel movie it's kind of crazy how the DC universe had like 20 that doesn't I think I don't want that to be a forgotten time of DC that's it was like 23 years of CW I don't think it's gonna be forgot I think when we get like a crisis event in movies
Starting point is 01:31:17 which I think James Gunn is nerdy enough to do I think that he'll like It's extremely impactful I mean he's friends with Rosie I feel like they'd be awesome to have them in there Like so much audience doesn't They start they got big with Arrow Right you know
Starting point is 01:31:30 Arrow who was playing Batman Yeah They just made him Batman Begins, but, you know, it was like fucking effective. And then Flash and Supergirl, like it went insane. Flash show, man, it's pretty cool. And Supergirl and the Superman and Lois, like, they introduced a lot of characters to the mainstream. And they made characters that would never have gotten, like, someone knows Black Lightning because of that. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Like, that's impressive. So, yeah, all the flowers to the CW. They absolutely deserve it. And they had really obscure characters and, like, they cast actors to play them and that got careers. Like, it did a lot for acting, TV, comics, like. I think they're a net positive. Yeah. I like when the CW started a lot of careers.
Starting point is 01:32:08 And the WB did before that. I auditioned for Jimmy Olson for three rounds before McCodd Brooks got it. Did you get it? Didn't get, didn't get it. Talked with Skyler a lot about it, though. We compared her Jimmy Olson perspectives because we were dressed the same at the premiere. We thought that was funny as Jimmy's Olson. Did you ever see the Birds of Pray Show?
Starting point is 01:32:26 I did not. I remember it, though. Yeah, it was Batman and Catwoman had a daughter. Yeah, Helena Wayne. Yeah. Was it, Helena? I don't remember, actually. Huntress?
Starting point is 01:32:35 She was Huntress. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It must have been. Probably. Yeah, but she was kind of like Jackie Chan's daughter. In the animated series? No. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Jaggy Chan's real good. Oh, like, I was like, did they do that in the show? Yeah, that's not fun. Jackie Chan's not a good dad. It's unfortunate because I love Jackie Chan. And that fake daughter thing that happened? Awkward. Well, and they're always, you know, people always come out and being like,
Starting point is 01:32:59 oh, yeah, Jackie Chan was here for this thing. He's so great. She's such a nice guy, and I'm like. cool just not when it comes to family if he can do that yeah unfortunately Ethan T he's asking does that mean no live tomorrow nope today's alive today's live tomorrow oh we got to do uh tomorrow comes today we got to do a knives out movie oh that's out tomorrow midnight oh that's exciting I'm excited for that knives midnight shoot me night shit midnives a mace masker Rick was it master Ritz
Starting point is 01:33:31 let's see we got is oh look out now hide your hide your daughters coy has met millie alcock i have jealous a f over here i i was not expecting her to be so tiny uh i was also uh she was it was really cool to see someone who's been a tv star to her scale uh get a movie but also like there aren't usually these kind of events for you know say house the dragon or any of the work she did in australia so i could tell it was a lot for her, but she was so gracious with everyone, and that meant a lot to me as, like, someone about to embark on playing a hero.
Starting point is 01:34:07 When you're surrounded by 80 people and you're not used to being, like, in that position, I could tell it was alarming, but she never was not gracious, and she also was, like, really cool with everyone I saw her talking to. That went a long way for me. And then when I went to talk to her, um, there was a complete and total miscommunication. I asked
Starting point is 01:34:23 everyone very clearly at the beginning of the event if they were wanting filming or not. And they said, yeah, film, but it needs to be released after the trailer. We had a conversation. It was very clear. I was cool with filming Craig Gillespie. It was cool for me to film my moment with Peter Saffron, who doesn't usually go on camera. I was very flattered. There was no room for me in James to film because 80 people swarmed and we were talking like this close. But when I went to Millie, I thought I could film so I could share it with you guys on my page. But immediately everyone was like, no cameras. And I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. And then
Starting point is 01:34:51 then there was an immediate like, I'm sorry, Millie for whatever just happened and made this entire interaction really awkward. And then she was like, no, no. And we had a really good talk about the character and to see her switch gears from like what's happening to like oh i'm an actor and here's some thought really great sign for her press tour and i i just had a really good interaction with the person that is millie alcock she's great oh that's so cool coy it was solid but did you ask her about making out with matt smith i was definitely like yo mattie s what kind of kiss a doe what that tongue do tell me about that doctor's who uh no i next time what's that tortoise do
Starting point is 01:35:28 oh is it really bigger on the inside but yeah she seems great their doctor who references they don't have to make sense have to be relevant to the show but she seems great from our limited interaction
Starting point is 01:35:44 she was lovely all right Ethan T's back thank you Ethan T and I'm glad that you're best friends with Millie Alcock that's it
Starting point is 01:35:54 Ethan T says also A little fun fact no one asked for I spent 117 days in a row on your vids No fucking way For better man
Starting point is 01:36:06 That's how sad and passionate I am Hyped for Logo For Lobo 17 days asking for this movie That's insane Thank you That's incredible That's fucking great
Starting point is 01:36:19 I don't know if I've ever loved Anything that much to like It's almost like that Someone keeps commenting for us to react to like Bo is Afraid or something like that. There's day one million of trying to get someone to react to something. There are a couple movies people really continually
Starting point is 01:36:34 ride for. I'm glad we watched the trailer for you. But a trailer in this context is easier to ride for. Hell yeah. Jose, don't worry about it. Thanks for chiming in. Hey, where's Koi's Cape? Have a good stream, guys. Yeah, where's your cape? I
Starting point is 01:36:50 wasn't invited to react to the trailer because I'd already seen it. I wasn't here as the gang this morning I'm going rogue next time I'm sorry I didn't wear my cat I didn't dress for the part
Starting point is 01:37:02 I apologize yeah you bitch I failed you I'm okay Ethan T no more cakes Ethan T again just to reiterate
Starting point is 01:37:10 I literally commented 117 days in a row for this film even if my girlfriend won't watch with me love you guys I am
Starting point is 01:37:20 just for Ethan we need to get you don't have a girlfriend come on The life in times of Ethan T. Girls love Betterman. I am fascinated by Ethan T. Like his goals, his life, the lady.
Starting point is 01:37:33 I, dude. I'm from the 90s. Nerds don't get girls. Come on. Where's the Ethan T. biopic? Jesus. I want to see it. You're just in your mom's basement.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Yeah. Nerds aren't making the biggest art and pop culture. You're your mom's being hot dogs. Lissiting to Robbie Williams out. Where's my better man? Holy. hot dog mustard on my shirt. Betty T's hot.
Starting point is 01:37:59 We're my Goonies team. Okay. Thanks. I bet you feel real good about that time. All right. Danny, thank you for chiming in. Joker's Shoes guy.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Hashtag coi for DCU Aquaman. Shouts out to Danny. That was an age ago. Yeah. That's a sick-ass shoe. He made me, he custom-made shoes where one shoe is Heath Ledger, Joker, and the other's Arthur Fleck
Starting point is 01:38:24 before Joker folio do. but, you know. When people liked that joke. When that joke I meant something. When it was revered. Commendable. I would definitely
Starting point is 01:38:32 if I was a better actor, would want to be green arrow. But as a not good actor, Aquaman seems easier. I also can't swim. You can't swim? Don't how to swim. You just got to punch it.
Starting point is 01:38:48 It's punched the water. Ali shows that's not true. Do you want to take advice from someone knows how to swim? Just punch it? Or do you want to take advice from a dozen? Do you punch vertical or horizontal? Do you think I know what the difference is?
Starting point is 01:39:00 It's all uppercuts. It's all uppercuts. So I plank and just punch down and I'll float. Or am I on the ground standing punching out? I think with enough force, you create enough momentum. It propels you. It pulls you up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:13 All right. New technique. Going to try it out. It's basic. It's physics. Haymakers. They get you further. Basic physics.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I'm ready. Let's move on. Ready to learn. Before Koi stops learning. All right. Thank you for the education, Danny. Ray Torres, thank you for chiming in. Hey, everyone.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Hope y'all, I hope you all have a great weekend. I got nothing to ask this week, so just take my money. That's right. Much love. Love to hear it. Appreciate you being here, though, buddy. Thank you. Thanks for the contribution, man.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Hell yeah, right. That's really nice. All right. Silhouetted animators back again. My guess on Jared Padalecki and Misha Collins' characters. That's right. A lot of people in the chat were pointing out. Misha Collins, Castiel, will be in the boys season five as well.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Mr. Marathon, Jared, and Jack from Jupiter, Misha. Boys readers, what do you say? I'm looking them up. I don't know. I didn't get that far into the boys' comics. Charlie Flicks' Fix is crying in the chat. I haven't read them since then alone. The boys' comics are just so, like, a little too mean-spirited.
Starting point is 01:40:22 They're so mean. I like to it. Yeah. I'm like, this is not, there's no, I need a little bit of heart here. This is just so mean. Yeah, it's really like angry. And it's like, it's mad at the world and the audience and that's really hard. I liked them at the time, but I haven't been able to reread them.
Starting point is 01:40:38 So I'm not sure who I'd cast for them. Because it's been like 20 years. So Mr. Marathon and the lore is the original speedster for the seven before A train took over. And Jack from Jupiter is, he is a major member of the seven who looks like an alien. orange skin no nose oh i remember him yeah he's on a bunch of covers and he's human but no compound v oh that's fun i like that for misha collins well it says for this he's a major member of the boys so it would be cool to get a unused character for this final season member of the character of the boys yeah that'd be fun yeah good guesses all around i like it and they didn't
Starting point is 01:41:16 show him misha collins so it's actually not a bad guess and i could act from looking at those expressions, I could see that be, Misha Collins. Hopefully, we'll see. Silhouette animator goes on to say, even if Homelander is silencing Ryan as theorized, Marie Moreau could resurrect him.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Maybe the challenge there is how much damage Homelander did. Dot, dot, da, do we... There is no, like, Marie Monroe in this trailer. I thought we get a little bit. I mean, they have to appear in here considering the ending of the... I feel like that would be smart to actually show them, or I don't know, one or two ways. You show them
Starting point is 01:41:55 and it might make people feel like, I don't want to make the time to watch Gen B. So should I watch the boys? Will I be lost? Or would it make people go, oh, I should watch Gen B before the boys, you know? I don't really know which direction would be the smart way to do it. I like the world building of the Gen V, but we're comic people. I don't know if it'll suit the day-to-day person. That's fair. But it seems like there'll be a big part of it. Whenever people say you need watch this before Marvel movie, the loudest people go homework, but I never know if they're the outliers or that's how people feel. I think it's how people feel. People don't like doing homework already. But like it's watching a move. Like it's a fun, it's an, the activity itself by
Starting point is 01:42:37 nature is enjoyment. I know. But it does, I create a pressure. It does turn something enjoyable into something more complicated. Yeah. And something that requires you to structure it out over time and be good at planning and, you know, then you are doing it. And if you've started something and you're like, oh, I needed to see that and I didn't, that feels unfun. Yeah, that's true. All right. What else we got? All right. Screw the system.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Jonathan's here to talk to us. Thanks for chiming in. Thanks, Jonathan. You guys should reach out to the H3 people for live streaming tips. Best in the game. Let's get all Ethan on the horn. Yeah, let's just talk to one of the biggest channels out there. Yeah, why not? it's fair advice I'm sure they would have great advice
Starting point is 01:43:22 I'm sure they have like a whole team that's usually what a lot of these live stream teams have there's a whole live stream team surrounding them where they don't think about these things but you know we're a lot we're we're still here we're building it one off camera employee yeah but you know
Starting point is 01:43:40 we'll see what we can do that's the I was going to say that's the shirt I want to design just like Alan's standing alone if you wearing a shirt that says off-camera employee in big block text. This is my off-camera uniform. Sebastian Yunn's, thanks for chiming into the chat.
Starting point is 01:44:00 What's better than a stream on Friday? A stream on Thursday! Love you guys. Paramount back in the running to buy WB. I thought it was SSD Stevie Wonder. I don't think it's going to happen. The Paramount thing? Ted Sarandos is pretty,
Starting point is 01:44:22 he seems very concrete on the idea of that's not going to happen. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like some things you get out of his control, but ultimately I feel like that has to be his decision, right? I don't really know how some of this works. I don't know how many of business. I mean, to that scale,
Starting point is 01:44:38 when they say billions, I'm like, no one really wins. The audience won't really win. What would you wrap if you had to choose an evil to go with? Netflix or Paramount, Which is the one? Comcast universe.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Between the two. Paramountly seems to care about theatrical, but they really do want their streaming service to go bigger. They can't just have a bunch of Dexter shows. They need the... They got those like really... They got those like Landman. Yeah, I was going to say,
Starting point is 01:45:09 they got all the alt-right shows. Yeah. Which look really cool. They do well. Are they like alt-right shows? Or do they just happen? to get the all right audience more because of where that's a fair question yeah and what they're drawn to like do i watch tulsa king and go you're pushing right wing values my way or is it i happen
Starting point is 01:45:31 like a masculine energy yeah like i saw the landman trade that's this dad core and it just happens to appeal to a lot of right leaning that's what i'd like to think like i hope that's the thing but i haven't seen any of it i'm watched landman trailers like this show looks cool i'm not like i'm gonna you know suddenly i hate everything ruin around me um well i mean that that has been a thing too is like stuff like that and like there was that whole period where um what was it 1923 or whatever the other version of that show is with kevin coster was like the biggest thing for a minute there i really like Taylor sheridan so i i'd like to think it's it's the positive side of that um but i think paramount has a lot of benefits for
Starting point is 01:46:08 the theatrical experience i worry about one channel owning that much of the news media like i'm more worried about that element than anything, but then, you know, Netflix has promised they want to do theatrical. And I do think buying Warner Brothers would be a way for them to have an entire theatrical side without having to like learn how to start it. Like they'd just jump into it. So I think Netflix would actually do more theatrical than people fear. One can hope. One can hope. They should just have a Netflix theater. That way they can still reap the profits. They do. They own the Egyptian theater. Yeah. And a couple others. They should know, they should just buy AMC. Then boom.
Starting point is 01:46:47 They already got the colors. Just changed the letter. If they bought a major cheater theater chain, then you got one job taking care of right there. Another monopoly. By the,
Starting point is 01:46:56 reopen all the arc lights. Stack them up. Reopen all the arc lights and make them Netflix. The Netflix Cinerama Dome. But then we might start getting some of those TV shows which I want bad.
Starting point is 01:47:05 And Stranger Things getting released in theater is also a good sign. It would be cool. We'll see. Let's move on now. Thank you. It's almost as if they recognize the opportunity to make cold hard cash
Starting point is 01:47:16 the old-fashioned way instead of like guessing over watch time and view count. Almost. Jose, don't worry about it. Back in action, thank you for chiming. And again, do you think the hand-washing scene from Woman of Tomorrow makes it into the movie? Coy's son, it's been six months.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I don't remember what he was talking about. Hand-washing scene from that. I remember major plot points and main issues. Oh, that is a cute scene in the bathroom. um it's innocuous enough i could see that being a nice little moment of levity uh it's it's a it's a moment where she teaches ruthy how to wash her hands because she grows up in such an impoverished place she doesn't know how she doesn't know the purpose like oh god she doesn't know why oh wow i don't
Starting point is 01:47:59 remember it's a really beautiful moment of levity but it's also super heartfelt it's like really powerful it's only three pages but yeah it's it's um i think it makes it in that's an important enough moment you need those human tender moments they make them the world a difference especially with alien like you want those things to feel like oh wow this is and it also shows like the world she comes from which changes like the perspective on the father and everything he did for her father's a rock farmer like it's a very rough world so i love this scene thank you for reminding me that but yes i think that makes it in good calls and thanks for the quickness john trying to get you a visual aid yeah it's not relevant anymore it came to me i got it i got there all right
Starting point is 01:48:40 but i appreciate the hustle yeah absolutely okay trying to this from three and a half to two and a half out can it be done we're on track for the most part we're having another live at like 1140 but yeah silhouetted animator and then we'll do a refresh checked stream labs come back
Starting point is 01:48:57 the ocean will be polluted and the ocean will blame the deep oily fish shot I definitely think the fish realized that he's been corrupted the deep has to die yeah he's too pretty he has to die or he'll carry on
Starting point is 01:49:12 in Gen V3 Do you think the boys' universe will carry on well without homelander, though? I don't know, because I really enjoyed GenVe season one. I didn't enjoy GenV season two as much as I wanted to. I don't know what that means for like those other spinoffs. Like, is it a one pop or is it once it goes away, are we all like... They should just enter the multiverse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:34 A lot of other show. There's other superhero commentary shows. You should enter the Watchman world. Yeah. That'd be fun. Rochack and the... The deep just hanging out. Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg actually just made a show in the boys' universe.
Starting point is 01:49:49 And he was like the star of it. I'd watch that. Woodwatch of the studio crossover. Yeah, that would be crazy. We're going to do a refresher? Seth Rogen, come on the show. That's a good theory, man. And we're going to check.
Starting point is 01:50:01 I hate all the torturing animals that show does it. It's rough, but they know you makes you feel. Like it works, but it's rough. All right. Sometimes it is really funny, though. All right. All good. With the stream labs.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Hooray. This mind's hurting a little bit. Oh, right. Oh, we got a handful. I'm just going to... Oh, we got a bottle. Oh, boy. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Look at this guy. Oh, you clever duck you. Yeah, I thought you were factory those things because I was like, really? 15? Where's the 20 coming on? All right. Stefan, Stephen. Thank you for chiming in, kicking us off
Starting point is 01:50:37 on the stream lab front. Heard a wild theory this week with Avengers end game having no post-credit scene previously that they are going to put one on it to set up Doomsday when it is in theaters in September? Do you think this could be true? Love from the Hugh.
Starting point is 01:50:54 I hope not. I've heard the same. I don't like that idea at all. Well, what if Tony Stark was the most important person to Dr. Doom? Avengers to remind you about that. So frankly, if they have got Downey acting like Iron Man in the preview of the chairs,
Starting point is 01:51:10 we need to remind people. I know how to fix this. This limited rule Police will solve all our problems. With a post-credit scene. Oh, that's a terrible idea. That's what I'm hearing. I really don't want them to do that. Well, it's the best way to negate the importance of phase five and six.
Starting point is 01:51:24 It might just do some special preview. I like the idea of it being more of a direct sequel to end game in some ways. But then it's all the phase four and five. But then it doesn't make sense of all the phase four or five characters that are like. It really, I'm worried, man. It's a weird thing. But that's all rumors. It's not nothing.
Starting point is 01:51:40 It's all rumors. I've just, I've heard that as well. So say it's a sequel to end game. Was that something the Rousseau's actually said? I haven't heard that. I heard about this post-credit scene, but I haven't heard that end-game sequel.
Starting point is 01:51:54 I can't wait to have eggs later. It's what, eight days till a week now, a week until it drops. So they strongly suggest is being framed as a direct continuation end game because the Rousseau brothers stopped watching Marvel movies after they made a game. I don't want to do the 20 hours.
Starting point is 01:52:12 I don't want to watch them. I don't want to do a whole work. You want me to watch Wanda Vision before I make a show with Wanda in it? It's too much. No. Just not put Wanda in it. It's just not. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I don't know what that's going to mean, but it's a week until Avatar, which means theoretically a week until the trailer. They're going to bring Doom back because Thanos is back. Yeah. Because it's a sequel to End Game. It's just the end game scene is Iron Man. He snaps. He dies.
Starting point is 01:52:38 A variant comes in, sees the gold mask, goes, now not silver, puts it on Doom. He looks in the camera and says same mask, same task. More of a tin man than an iron man. What else we got? All right. In fact, how about we do this? I'm going to read these by user. So let's continue with Stephen.
Starting point is 01:52:59 All right, Stephen. And really hack the system here. And then we'll do all the Damanis and all the DMVs and all that stuff. That's clever man. Yeah, clever man. Watch that trailer. Stefan goes on to say, loved. The Supergirl and Boys trailer.
Starting point is 01:53:15 How was Kill Bill the whole bloody affair? Already reviewed it. Sorry, I should have read that. For me, Cinema at its best, I rewatched Kill Bill Volume 1 Monday and didn't hit the same for me after the whole bloody affair. We literally said all those things. Honestly, it was my favorite movie theater experience I've had all year. It reminded me of my love for the movies. It really, really reminded me that, like, just getting my popcorn. It's because I've been on a diet for, I was on that diet all year.
Starting point is 01:53:38 Yeah. I checked my points on my AMC app. I had like $100 worth because I just never fucking bought concessions. Oh, that's awesome. So I was like, whoa, I got so much money for, because I, all year, I just didn't buy concessions. So I just kind of went awog wild on like a bunch of popcorn and nachos and shit. And I was like, this is the desk. Because I didn't go on 70 millimeter.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I wanted the recline seats because it was, right? I saw the same. Yeah. Yeah. The amount of recline seats of how long we were going to be there. And I was like, this is just the. I had such a good time too. And the audience was great because they're like cinefiles.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Respectful. Yeah. No one took a phone out the entire fucking movie. It was amazing. I had a good time. Who's next? Hell yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Here we go. We're out to Dan V. 900. Gonna run through all the Dan Vs. I liked the Supergirl trailer, but I didn't love it. The trailer doesn't sell me. It doesn't sell how it's true grid and space and it's somber. On the same page.
Starting point is 01:54:32 The song felt too upbeat and makes you think of Guardians of the Galaxy where I hope totally it's closer to the comic would have preferred a score over a song. Me too. wish there was an, like, there's a, there's a certain sound to space music that you get in, like, the Watchman space scenes or interstellar. I kind of wanted something that felt cosmic. Like, that's the problem, makes a problem with that. It doesn't feel cosmic. I'm curious if the first trailer does that, like, it pivots, but I'm really curious, like, what their marketing is going to be. Even Guardians 3 felt more cosmic in its first trailer. Guardians 3 definitely had, like, ominous tones. Yeah, we needed that. Oh, God damn.
Starting point is 01:55:09 but damn when you slow it down when you slow it down without hearing it it's fucking beautiful it's funny the different experience we had slow-mo silent just looking but yeah which is the closer of the probably the movie right
Starting point is 01:55:24 like a marketing is gonna throw a poppy song on it what next we got Dan V goes on to say number two Terminator questions sorry let me make sure that's on screen all right first have you heard of the
Starting point is 01:55:38 Terminator 2D No Fate game out tomorrow. No. Looks awesome as a side scroller where you play through T2 as Sarah, Future John, and the T-800. There's alternate levels and endings like Sarah killing Dyson, leading to her in
Starting point is 01:55:52 2029. Oh, that's fun. Second, can I just read this, John? Yeah, go. Thanks, buddy. What would you do for that next Terminator film? I'd go back to basics with a low, mid-budget horror film, like the first. Don't think I'd include John, since I'd like the
Starting point is 01:56:07 different settings, Terminator Zero, and current comic with the Terminator after others. I think I would just remake it. From the jump? Just remake Terminator. Yep. Call it Genesis with an eye. Bold.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Get someone who's just as good as who has just as much like intensity as Michael Bean. Ben Foster. Like a Jai Courtney. Yeah, dude. He's perfect. So much pressure behind those eyes. That's my John Conner.
Starting point is 01:56:39 He's not a laxadaisical Australian that should play boomerang. That game sounds cool. I think it would be cool to actually have a monumental Terminator game. I don't know what I would do for another Terminator film other than wanting a good commentary piece.
Starting point is 01:56:53 But really, you know, Terminator, the commentary is a part of the DNA when really the... Terminator is, I think, that's one of those movies that even if you don't care about the commentary, you will love the experience of just as an action movie and intensity
Starting point is 01:57:12 whereas like compared to the Matrix which is similar in theme and story you kind of need to get on board with the commentary to really enjoy what this film is. You know what I mean? So I think going back to basics in some way is a way to do it. I was going on to Terminator binge. We guys would be watched the Terminator movie yeah. Couldn't finish Genesis. I got halfway through
Starting point is 01:57:31 dark fate and I was like this is not good and I haven't started the Sarah Connor Chronicles just to see what it was like and I was like it was actually kind of a cool concept yeah that was i'll like that show i was surprised by like how quickly i got on board with lena hetty and whoever plays john connor is way better than everyone else who played john connor after i would refer along i'd be curious if uh terminator three if they went right off t2 if it would feel kind of like running man where it was like it's kind of just the present like i don't know if you could make an a i commentary sky net thing now yeah just like with the running
Starting point is 01:58:04 man i was like let's just today doesn't feel like a commentary It feels like a documentary. Yeah. So I don't know if Terminator would work because by the time it came out, like between now and 2028, I think we're already like cooked. So I don't know if we can make a movie fast enough
Starting point is 01:58:19 to get ahead of the thing that is SkyNet. Do you know what I mean? Like we've got robots walking around West Hollywood. That's fair. I don't know. We just enter a prompt to find out what we could do. Yeah, yeah. Let us know AI.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Chad G. What should the new Terminator be? It's a movie that's saying that the Terminators are the heroes. Skynet. Right, Skynet. All right, all right. Let's jump into some of DeMani's thoughts on here. Got a whole rack of DeMonis.
Starting point is 01:58:47 Rack of Demonty. I got this. Okay, John, just read it all as one giant monologue. Copy that. All right, let me get it, just to make sure it's visible on screen. Okay, but you have to read each one as a different impression. Oh, no. Of someone, you choose the impressions.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Um, okay. Big Super Big Supergirl fan Need to read The Woman of Tomorrow But seen all the animations Read the comics And loved the CW show The trailer didn't wow me
Starting point is 01:59:18 And I'm concerned It won't do well At box office ways But excited Truly Millie is great Is that your Gerard Butler It's trying to be It's never good though
Starting point is 01:59:29 That's great I was able to tell who it was What are you talking about The Black Raiders are as a queer by person of color Supergirl appeals to me but will it appeal to straight bros? No offense
Starting point is 01:59:43 Patrick Bateman. When most recent woman comic book movie shows don't do as well See now I'm falling into Bateman Super Man did too and even Who are you doing? I was trying to I haven't listened to Nick Offerman and talk in a while Oh I can hear that. I'll have it in my random access
Starting point is 02:00:02 Superman didn't do amazing So I worry if this will not match Superman or does worse Actually, now I hear it really well I want DC to do well Okay, okay We're not doing them all, so sorry Would you have crypto go back to Superman and Man of Tomorrow If Kara isn't in it
Starting point is 02:00:23 Or both Kara and Crypto and Man of Tomorrow I'm glad Supergirl looks different Than Superman But wish it didn't seem like Guardians which I wasn't a fan of personally. Millie and Lobo are great. Very much on the same page. You can see why these are our dedicated fans
Starting point is 02:00:39 where they share similar opinions as us. They keep coming back. And then it makes us think everyone has this opinion. And then when people hate us, we're like, what the hell? People are doing this so much. I love to see W. Supergirl, even though she's less comics, accurate,
Starting point is 02:00:52 and more like Clark. What are your thoughts on it? I loved the blue heat vision to show blue fire, how hot it is. Isn't Carras stronger than cow in the comics? it varies based on versions and most people just want to see the terminators i remember that from the interviews christian male was trying to sell it and not tell people that it's a bad movie
Starting point is 02:01:13 yeah yeah yeah this is the film i just remember back in 2023 most people wanted full hold on the fucking grid is fucking all right most people wanted a reboot a full reboot of DC instead of a soft one with what we have gotten here so far it's working for me
Starting point is 02:01:40 but as a comics reader it never bothered me going from uncanny X-Men to new X-Men as an example is it working for you guys well Grace Randolph who you hate
Starting point is 02:01:55 I kid has theorized for years the boys might end with Homeland or losing his powers instead of dying All right, so we moved on. Okay, hold on. Let me ship pause. So we did all Supergirl. It was a lot.
Starting point is 02:02:05 All right, Supergirl. With all that context, you sound like you share the same mind as us. Pretty much you've echoed all of our same opinions, right? I don't really know how much more to add to what you just said there. Is there something you wanted to add? Well, there are questions in there? I feel like that was a question after the second one that I wanted to at least acknowledge.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Oh, Superman made a lot of money. Superman, like, made $100 million plus in profit. So I feel like the, depending on what, which corner of the internet you listen to is the perception of the superman, but it did very well. And as far as Supergirl, I don't know box office. I don't know cost. I don't know those things. But that's what I wanted. That's what it was. I'm a mostly straight guy and I like Supergirl a lot. Like, I don't think you need to be a bisexual, anything, male, woman, other, to appreciate the character. I don't know if that character is more of an appeal to a certain
Starting point is 02:02:58 demographic as much as it's not usually written as a diverse character. I find that Supergirl, as long as she's written specifically, she's a great character. The problem becomes when you just write Supergirl as Girl Superman, which is this is very much not doing. So I think the problem that we've been having in media and adapting female characters is we aren't letting them be their own entities. Like my big problem with the Marvels is there's three leads in that film that feel like they wrote one character and split them into three and let each do what their task was like no one's multifaceted if they're all playing one thing as a unit i don't think that works whereas this is a character like she feels fully lived in and fleshed out so i'm not worried about
Starting point is 02:03:37 the straits i guess the bigger question is if you're not a comic book fan is this going to appeal to you and i honestly think the answer is going to be no i don't feel like if unless you're already invested in this is more when people over which i don't think the trailer does that job but maybe to the masculine point too i mean maybe that's why they threw lobo in there honestly That's a really good point. It's a hyper masculine character. Maybe that's maybe that's why they should get crem the way crem is in the comic. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Graham is very, like, masculine, evil, you know. That's a good point. Yeah, Lobo, I mean, Moa might bring, I mean, Aquaman had made a billion dollars. I mean, Lobo is, is an iconic character. Right. Even if you don't really know the character, you've seen him. You know of Lobo. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:16 He's cracked the zeitgeist, and he's never had a theatrical appearance. Yeah. I guess Supergirl might be stronger than, I love that blue heat vision to show Blue Fire. that's what he's talking about but I don't know I feel like they've kind of be equal and strength it would be kind of cool to see the different types of fighting style I imagine she'd be a little bit
Starting point is 02:04:34 of a better fighter than yeah and she's also like more adept at her powers I imagine right yeah so yeah it all depends on who's writing it and did you have an X-Men question that anybody asked sorry there was also a question
Starting point is 02:04:48 in here about crypto returning to Superman I don't know what's happening to me John did too many voices of tomorrow. John broke if Kara isn't in man of tomorrow, or do you think both of them will be in man of tomorrow? I think Kara will be a man of tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:05:05 I think especially with Brainiac coming in. Yeah, I agree. I think there'll definitely be elements of Kryptonian heritage that are informing Brainiac, and I think they'll need Kara for those elements. So I think she'll be in it. I think it would suck if she's not in it. Especially after we're probably going to fall in love with her.
Starting point is 02:05:19 Yeah, yeah. I think it would be wise to keep her in it. And it's not an earthbound story, so it be a cool way to have her on Earth. Yep. I agree. Absolutely. All right.
Starting point is 02:05:29 We got a couple more from Dan. No, DeMani, sorry. The Grace Randolph question. Grace Randolph, who you hate, I kid, has theorized for years. The boys. I was clarifying that. They're trying to start drama. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:48 Grace Randolph has theorized for years. The boys might end with Homeland or losing his powers instead of dying. do you want that or prefer him dying? No GenVee people in the trailer worries me, especially Marie. She should be there. DeMani goes on to say... I would say really quick to answer that. I prefer he dies instead of losing his powers.
Starting point is 02:06:06 I don't want to... I think that's a cop out. I agree. He should die. Yeah, I want stakes, but I also want villains to last. But in that case, we need stakes. He should die or he should win. And our hero should die.
Starting point is 02:06:17 I don't mind a cynical ending. Here and there, yeah. Because then you carry on Jen V and you really raise a steak. Homelander's going to carry on. But yeah, what's the next one? It's also such a cynical comic. Like, maybe some cynicism. I agree.
Starting point is 02:06:32 I don't know. I feel like if Homelander lost his powers, it would just lead to a lifetime of suffering, which is very mean and appropriate. That's true. That's true. To make him a human? You know, and then, yeah, and he's got to live as the thing he despises the most. That's fair.
Starting point is 02:06:45 That's a good point. That's a really good point. All right. I wanted to get my flowers. Grace Randall. I, I, yeah. Moving on, we got. Last one from Demoni. Just Got Killed. Bill tickets for the AMC Lincoln Square here in New York City.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Biggest IMAX in the world. 70 millimeter, we talked about this a couple streams ago. Trying to figure out which the biggest one was. Because of you guys' recommendation. Haven't seen it since I was a kid with my mom. One of my favorites of all time. I'm going to watch is 70 millimeter IMAX. Wow, I'm jealous of that.
Starting point is 02:07:17 That's, yeah, that's really rad. I mean, what the shitty part is for the length. I have become the person who has adjusted to it. I want the recliner. Yeah. When you said it, I was like, that is a really good note for a five-hour movie.
Starting point is 02:07:31 It's like four and a half. It's crazy. But when it, yeah, I mean, just sitting though in an IMAX. But like three hours for one battle, I'm excited to do it.
Starting point is 02:07:40 I think it's the fourth hour. Yeah. I mean, the intermission does help. Still. But still. I want the lounge experience. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:07:48 I want when it's like one battle I want 70 millimeter with the right frame. Like, I want that whole thing. But something like 2001, I'd recline my ass off. Like, it depends on the movie's tone. Yeah. See, I've got to be a little uncomfortable for this stuff.
Starting point is 02:08:02 He's the big recliners and stuff. I'm there for like four hours. Like, that's going to make me sleepy. I need the uncomfortable chair to keep me awake. It depends on my level of engaged because I'm not here to lounge and fall asleep. Fair. All right. I did get a coffee during kill bill.
Starting point is 02:08:19 It's true. You don't put up your, when we get those lounge seats. don't see you put up your feet and stuff. Not often, sometimes, when it's a shorter movie, maybe. Oh, man, you're right about it. Why isn't he taking a baby? A comfy boy. I think it's distracting.
Starting point is 02:08:33 It's weird. It's kind of distracting. Like, now I'm in a different, I don't associate it with a movie theater the same way, you know? I bring a blanket. You're an I pick, boy. I bring my eye mask. I bring mouth tape. I bring no strips.
Starting point is 02:08:46 I bring my CPAP machine. People tell me what happened in the movie after. I got a whole experience. I watch a recap. Read headphones. During the movie, I watched Rieke. Where are the peanuts? Oh, we're not flying.
Starting point is 02:08:58 Best sleep, there we get. That's crazy. All right, let's go back down to the bottom and work our way back up to the top. We got Steven. Thanks, David. We got Jake H movies with a couple of contributions here. Hey, Mother Effer. I need to hear your name again.
Starting point is 02:09:16 Jake H. All right, let me make sure that you're on screen here because it's hard to do that. All right. So Jake starts. by saying Supergirl trailer looks awesome. Probably the most excited I've been for a superhero since the Batman.
Starting point is 02:09:30 Love the show and so happy I got to catch it live finally. Oh, us. Thank you. That's true. Supergirl's not a show. Thank you. Yeah, and then Jake goes on to say, would y'all be interested in reacting to the 1984 Supergirl movie before the new one comes out?
Starting point is 02:09:46 That is something I have considered as doing. I've never seen it. I think that'd be really fun. Yeah. I hear it's really good. heard it's very good and funny and colorful apparently. I hear it's the best installment of the Superman movies. Oh man, I'm so ready. That's why they made so many. Yeah. Supergirl 8, Quest for Not
Starting point is 02:10:02 Peace is legendary. I think it would be fun to do that though. I've never seen a trailer. I know nothing. That's great. I've heard it's amazing. And then the Roger Corman Fantastic Four after that. All right. After Jake, we have Tommy. Tommy 1017. Not just any Tommy. Part one and two.
Starting point is 02:10:22 Part one. Would you guys like the DCU, two, instead of doing a big buildup and lots of movies, until we get Darkside, the grid's fucking stuff up for me again? All right. Uh, sorry. Until we get Darkside. Follow a similar path as the DC animated universe, where we get Darkside early, and the league has to get together to beat him.
Starting point is 02:10:43 Part two, we can then build up after the first Darkside battle and go through solo arcs for certain characters, but knowing in the background that we're just waiting and, building to his return. I think dark side's too similar to Thanos and the Marvel Stiff. I don't think we're going to do Dark Side at all. No, no. Or not at all, but not in the same way.
Starting point is 02:11:01 I think he's an inevitability. Like Thanos. Yes. But yeah, I don't see that. I haven't even like thought. I don't even think about like the main villain thing anymore. Yeah, I don't think they want to structure it around the main villain. I think that we will have Dark Side, but not in the same format.
Starting point is 02:11:17 Because that's where we're at now with these movies. We're like, we just need to get back to good movies. Right. and we need to we need to do something because the problem with superhero is exactly what's kind of implied in the title it has to be a good guy versus a bad guy and the good guy will win so somehow it inevitably seems like it falls into a similar structure no matter how different you do it a lot of the time and we need to get to some type of different form of storytelling yeah of it because ultimately it's probably going to be the same thing here right you know like i like the ending of a woman of tomorrow a lot because it's weird and different but if they don't do the narration method then it won't work then it's just a typical fucking thing you know you can't do that story yeah so we need to we need to like mix it up in some way i think like i think we dance spoilers i i really think when when marble when everything really went started going wrong what i really think it was when it was when
Starting point is 02:12:20 King lost in Quantummania. Yeah, yeah, it was an endgame. Everybody's like, oh, everything, no, people were so excited after Endgame. It's not like it was... People say it peaked, but it's like, no, that's not what? It was because he lost in Quantumania. Yeah. Imagine the different trajectory it would have taken if Ant Man lost, maybe Hope dies.
Starting point is 02:12:36 Killed Ant Man. Or kills Ant Man? We're in a whole different territory right now. And I think Endgame was obviously the peak of the culmination, but it wasn't when Marvel peaked. Like, I think they could have carried on. Yeah. no definitely no way
Starting point is 02:12:52 and people fucking say that like no way home came out after everyone always forgets that like a Pete don't like no way home it's just as big and it didn't have 10 year lead up it had like a 20 year lead up and it didn't yeah a lot of different things
Starting point is 02:13:04 and one division was a phenomenon when it first came out and so it was Loki season one like so people constantly say them like no there were there were massive things that came out after revisionist history is crazy the pandemic didn't help the strike didn't help but everybody just lumps it in
Starting point is 02:13:19 Yeah, it's kind of weird. And what are you going to do? The internet, not full of sane. All right, all right, all right. I think we're almost caught up on the stream labs. We got Wesley Marshall. Oh, we got Jaden de Rosier. We got Tommy in there.
Starting point is 02:13:36 Let's go to Jaden. Jaden, thank you for chiming in. Hey. Hey. Just want to say I love the channel. Been watching the rejects since I was in middle school grade 7. Oh, thanks, man. I'm now 24 and engaged.
Starting point is 02:13:49 Crazy to see how far the channel has come. Crazy to see how far you've got, Dayton. Keep it up, rejects. Love you all. I lost my virginity in grade seven. I'm not they're going to say on the channel my first girlfriend. Oh! It was actually grade five.
Starting point is 02:14:14 Nice. Yeah. I touched myself. myself. I want you to... Wesley Marshall! I'm also slightly hesitant, but not to chime in and we appreciate that, with it feeling
Starting point is 02:14:29 like guardians, but agree with you folks that we'll see its full majesty later. Also, the cinematographer on this is also doing Clayface, so I'm very curious what that will look like. Who's a cinematographer on this? I remember someone bitching. Who is it? Someone...
Starting point is 02:14:45 Oh, their last work was crazy good. It's not going to come to me. It's just like Matt, whatever his name. Rob Hardy. You know, it's wild. Ex Machia. What else was he done? He's Alex Garland's guy.
Starting point is 02:14:56 The more, did he do Civil War? Yes. Beautiful. Yes. Annihilation. If bigger movies in embraced unique cinematography, that would change it.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Every. So fucking much. Look at Greg Frazier. Like, the way Dune looks, the way the Batman looks. No one thought the Batman could possibly Everyone was kind of upset about the bat. We were transfixed.
Starting point is 02:15:22 Remember when we watched it? We were both like, this is so beautiful. Do you remember when the Batman was announced? It was like, okay, we're not getting Ben Affleck. We just already had the Dark Night. We're getting another Batman reboot. Then the trailer comes out and are like,
Starting point is 02:15:33 oh my God, this is everything I want. Higher the DPs that are, like this dude. A DP can change, a proper cinematographer can change everything. And back-to-back Clayface and this, that is exciting. I remember I looked him up and he was Alex Carlton's guy and I got excited. That's what it was. You know, in order for this to happen, we've got to start shooting things actually in camera a little bit.
Starting point is 02:15:52 No, shut up. John, what are you talking about? You don't know anything. All righty. I mean, they have digital cinematographer too, but anyway, Ronan Unchained. Deacon shot Rango. That's true. Deacon shot the hell out of Rango.
Starting point is 02:16:04 He did. Look at the camera really quick, coy. And move away from the mic. There we go. You're in trouble with you. All right, Ronan Unchained. What's up, Muchachos. That's not how we said it.
Starting point is 02:16:16 He said, What's up, machos? Hey, what's up, that Supergirl teaser is glorious. Millie is perfect as Kera. Just finished reading A Woman of Tomorrow, man, last night. It's a beautiful book. Go read Warshak Comics.
Starting point is 02:16:33 They should have adapted. Keep up good work and happy holidays. Give it up for John. Good cliche, everybody. Making me a crave Taco Belt. In a very problematic feat of cast. I once played a Hispanic character professionally for money, so
Starting point is 02:16:50 you know, some of that. So the guy plays Bill's father. Who's the guy who's the guy plays Bill's pimp father? He's also the Caldwell. Oh, my Michael Parks. Michael Parks. Oh, yeah! A lot of people don't know that, but it's Michael Parks. Which is crazy that he's got two very different roles. And no one's
Starting point is 02:17:08 ever bitched about it. He's playing a full like Mexican guy. Yeah. Yeah. Did the makeup, fucking, did the makeup in the whole voice? Yeah. Turned to it didn't bother to hire an Mexican guy. I read the credits that I was like.
Starting point is 02:17:24 He just fucking was like, I'm going to get Michael Parks. We killed him in the first one. We bring him back. Wow. Bill. Michael Parks in any way, Hispanic. I'm Googling this. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:17:40 No. It just is no. He is a white American board act. Wow. And everyone was like fucking last. That was cool, good job. Do what you got to do. Oh, hell yeah, dude.
Starting point is 02:17:50 It's hilarious. Okay. And are we caught up? Do we do it? Ronan approves. Ronan approves. He allows. He passes.
Starting point is 02:17:58 I think we got like a super sticks and then we're good. We've got a couple of things to wrap up the super's and we'll be groovy Tuesday. All, three hours. Hey, man. We started, what time? 1140? 11.30. We're better than, let.
Starting point is 02:18:13 1137? hey 12 seven three hours Greg I thought we'd beat it this time no we did not we did two stories we did two stories
Starting point is 02:18:26 it's how long the show is just destined to be a three hour experience every episode is Lord of the Rings that's the goal oh it's three hey they're thriving communities of four hour
Starting point is 02:18:38 Alex Smithy Charles Flicks thank you for being here every week and supporting us our views also went up at two hours. So I get it. It's what the audience wants. It's what they demand. Look at this cute little guy. Look at cheddar there. We got some hearts from Alan Smithy, and we got some blushy love from Charlie's Flix Fix, who is holding it down in the chat
Starting point is 02:19:00 lusting after you lovely gents. Thank you. We love to see it. I think they like seeing us break, Greg. I think they like seeing the atrophy. Thank you guys so much. We did it. Two stories. Three guys. I don't think we'll be your next because I highly doubt they'll release the Doomsday trailer that day. I feel like they will release it sometime between Tuesday through Thursday. So we'll do it live then? I think it'll be Thursday. I think it'll be Thursday.
Starting point is 02:19:26 Because I think they wanted to play in the theaters first. Comes out Thursday though. Avatar. Yeah, so they want it to play in the theaters first. Right? When would it come out then? I think the best way to do it is let's go to this we'll figure out. Let's see if I'll see my theory stands clear.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Let's go to Avatar. Showtimes. Let's go Avatar New York. Yeah, showtime. Because that would be the way to figure it out like in New York. But they're gonna want to release it in the morning. They usually go by East Coast.
Starting point is 02:19:53 Yeah, that's true. Like, they're not gonna release a trailer at noon. You don't know that. All right. It's not letting me go into my 50-mile radius. AMC theaters, New York. 3,000 mile radius. I can do this.
Starting point is 02:20:08 Don't worry, guys. I don't want me to quiet. I got this. I got a handle. Doot. let's just go to the landmark is 3,109 miles away Thursday what time is your first showing of avatar advanced tickets just tell us data just give us this is why people want to go to the theaters too hard to find out of theater
Starting point is 02:20:34 3,000 miles away it's fucking hard to find it theater oh my god it's not showing what time is the first showing holy shit just Tell me the time of the first show. I'm going to make sure we hit three hours. Greg was like, we're not going to have three hours. I'm going to make sure we have three hours. Fucking Fandango right now. He's on a dial-up.
Starting point is 02:20:52 He's right now. He's pulling up his ass Jeeves. He's just typing. When is it Jeeves? This is what we in show business called Fluff. This is right here. We're killing the game. This is what John feels like
Starting point is 02:21:00 every time we need something, but pulled up quick. That's right. Is your heart beating fast enough? You feel the pressure of what's happening right now? Are your fine motor skills? We should all yell at Greg. Positively or negatively.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Who knows? Also do an accent. 3.30 p.m. is the first showing? They're going to put it out, Greg. It might be Friday. Maybe. I have plans with the misses. Tuesday's not a big trailer.
Starting point is 02:21:27 We go live at like... No one's going to watch. Eight in the morning. Yeah, what are your plans? I can't be on Christmas with the misses because of a stranger things. So we're going to go to do something. If you're not going to do it at like 10 a.m. Or maybe you will to Christmas.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Yeah, we were going to go to Disneyland. Oh, that's cute. Well, we'll probably hopefully have an idea of when the trailer comes out before the actual day. Hopefully. So maybe we'll be here.
Starting point is 02:21:50 Yeah. I could go to Disney later. Guys, that's the level of priority Greg has for you. He's missing Christmas and his made-up Christmas.
Starting point is 02:22:01 Channel. It's important. Two Christmases just negated by pop culture. I'm not doing Christmas until January. You celebrated Christmas last year. Yeah, you don't want to every year. I'm doing Christmas in January
Starting point is 02:22:11 so I can be with. you lovelies we're here thank you guys so much for being here i'm going to go grab a snack now happy birthday everyone thanks coy thanks sean we did it again thanks all of you we'll see you we'll see you some point next week some point all right yeah we did it we landed We're going to be. We're We're Thank you.
Starting point is 02:23:18 We're going to be. I'm gonnae. So, I don't know. I don't know. So, I'm sorry, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:23:30 I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry. We're going to do. I don't know. We're going to be. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:23:45 I'm sorry. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm going to be I'm going to be. I'm So,
Starting point is 02:23:56 I'm sorry, We're going to be. I'm sorry. We're going to be able to be. We're going to be. I'm sorry. I'm Thank you.

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