The Reel Rejects - SUPERGIRL TRAILER BREAKDOWN!! Woman Of Tomorrow Easter Eggs | DCU | Lobo | James Gunn
Episode Date: December 11, 2025DC JUST DROPPED THE NEW SUPERGIRL TRAILER! James Gunn’s DCU is officially expanding into the cosmic frontier with Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, and today Greg Alba & Coy Jandreau break down everythi...ng we saw — from Kara Zor-El’s powerful new characterization to the film’s striking sci-fi aesthetic inspired by Tom King’s critically acclaimed comic run. We explore how this Supergirl differs from Superman, why her harsher upbringing makes her one of the DCU’s most compelling new heroes, and how the trailer sets the tone for a darker, more emotionally charged journey. What planets are we seeing? Who is the mysterious villain teased? And how will Supergirl connect to the larger DCU, including Superman, Swamp Thing, The Authority, and the upcoming Lanterns series? PLUS — we speculate on casting details, story influences, potential cameos, and what James Gunn and director Craig Gillespie are setting up for the future of the DC Universe. Is Supergirl poised to become one of the breakout characters of the new DCU era? If you enjoy these trailer breakdowns and theory dives, hit like & jump into the chat! Reject Nation, let’s get into it. If you’re loving these breakdowns, hit like & jump into the chat! Reject Nation, let’s get into it. Follow Coy Jandreau: Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello there, fellow rejects, members of Argo Planet.
I like how fun that looks, the Argo destruction.
Dude, I...
I can't wait to see that suffering and humorous for...
I wonder how many people think it's candor, they're going to be even sadder.
Like, it looks like, because how many people that are casual Superman fans, like,
oh, the planet in the bottle!
No, it's way worse.
It's way sadder.
Was the dude with the, like, the close-up on the guy who I think some people think is brainiac?
Is that crem?
Crem of the Yellow Hills, bro?
I didn't notice.
Because he doesn't look like me.
I didn't put you.
Yes, Krem's supposed to look kind of like, who's that guy in Game of Thrones, the, not the snow people.
Oh, freak, I'm terrible in the name.
John, you got to know.
Snow people.
The snow guy, the big beard dude.
Oh, yeah.
Burly pirate man.
Yeah.
Torman Giants.
His name is Torben Giantsbane.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm jealous.
Yeah, that's kind of what he sort of looks like.
I think I look more like, even than Green Arrow, I look like that fellow.
So when they cast Matea Shoddard, so I was like, oh.
And then I saw it and I was like, well, guys, we're here to two things today.
We're going to talk about the Supergirl trailer.
If you didn't catch the reaction that John Roxy and I did, that is up there on the channel.
We'll watch the first time watching.
We're going to break this down together, Koi and I, Koi, convinced me months ago that I had to read
Woman of Tomorrow, did it right after Superman, and it was cool to have some knowledge.
Hell yeah.
It feels good when you're left.
I know, thought my top.
I did a full breakdown on my page of all eight issues, but I didn't spoil it.
I didn't do the thing that some people do on their YouTube, so they're just like,
here's the comic for free and here's the end.
No, no.
I did a breakdown, but I did it in an tactful way.
Also did a video of me talking to everyone in New York of the cast.
So what would help Alex and John are here, what would help guys, if there's people in the chat
mentioning things that we should definitely discuss in this trailer, please let us know.
I want to dive into why I think Lobo
would actually be a good addition to this movie
even though he's not in the comic
And then of course we're going to do the Boy Season 5 trailer
We did not see it
And we thought this would be a good opportunity
To do that
And this will probably be the only time
We do a Boy Season 5 trailer
If there's any more that comes out
We're not going to watch it
Because we're going to watch the bullets
It's the final season
You can only watch the final season one time
Same feeling about Stranger Things
We saw one trailer after that we're done
And yeah Coy did go watch
He quite went to that Supergirl event.
I was in New York to watch this trailer
like three days ago
and I had to keep it a secret.
Yeah.
Before we go into hearing your thoughts on that,
please leave a like on this video.
Thanks to everyone who does contribute
Super Chats and Streamlaps to this podcast today.
We usually go live every Friday,
but if there's a special trailer day like this,
we're going to make some exceptions like today.
And so we never end a stream
unless we go through every single one of them.
So you guys dictate a lot of how this conversation will go.
But before we dive into the trailer,
we'll be going frame by,
frame. We're going to pull it up on screen
for you guys. We're going to do the whole
shabang. Coy, this
trailer launch event.
I was invited to the Superman one, but wasn't
invited to this one. There's on the other coast, Craig.
I'm so sorry. They even had a virtual one
in the day. Oh, I don't know. I'm not excuse.
What happened? I thought I shilled for
Warner Bros. Yeah. It's because I criticized
the hell out of peacemaker. Did we not do
eight videos on Superman for you? I love
that press tour, but here we are. Now I'm going to
talk about how Superman's woke and just
rail because you betrayed me. A girl.
Superhero? Never done
before. Set in the present? Because the rest have been
set in the past since 2005.
Actual stat. Nice.
Coy.
What is the, what was
the event like? It was cool. I want to give
my flowers to the team for actually
making sure it was Supergirl fans. The audience
was like, you know, creator events. Sometimes you're like
so you just danced on TikTok and ended up with 4 million. What are you doing here?
This audience was creators that are actually in the movie in comic space.
I actually had more interactions with people
that I've followed and have followed me
that are in New York that I'd ever at an event.
Like, it was cool to meet people that actually
care about the comic, because I could tell when they
talked to me, they knew what they were talking about.
So I was at an event where people were so comic-y
that I actually was relevant.
Like, it was cool, because, like, most creator events,
I'm just a guy with a little HBO show, but I'm not dancing.
Like, this was like, oh, my God, you're doing the thing
with DC Studios.
So I felt immediately in the room, those were the diehards.
And then the event itself was curated to feel like
that punk rock underground sensibility.
It was at a club, disco balls over the ceiling, all the lighting.
Oh, like the opening of the trailer.
Yeah, they built that.
Okay.
So my buddy Frankie at IHeart Comics build these incredible events that are like curated to be the style of the film.
And they let him go ham with Supergirl and made the trailer in person.
So it was a really cool club event.
So we actually watched it on like a nightclub stage on.
And then James came out.
Craig came out.
They introduced Millie.
So James Gunn came out and gave like a speech about how excited he was to be overseeing the DCU and to let one of his favorite directors,
Craig Gillespie broke down why he was excited about Craig's work, direct this.
And then Craig Gillespie came out, talked about his relationship with the comic.
And then he introduced Milly Alcock.
She came out and said, like, it was cute because she was clearly like a little nervous,
but she was kind of like still her excitement was bigger than her nerves.
But I felt her like start, stop and like adjust to everything.
And it was adorable because it was so endearing to see like James Gunn, Showman and Craig Gillespie like ride or die.
And then Millie was just like ready to talk about Supergirl.
And it was really cool to see three people excited for different reasons.
Like, they didn't feel rehearsed.
It didn't feel like sound bites.
It's what I'm trying to say.
It felt like here is the passion behind these three creators.
And then Peter Saffner is there as well.
It came out and talked to everybody.
I, um, with my job with James Gunn and Peter Saffron, got to talk with both of them.
And it was really interesting to talk to James about something that he didn't direct.
Because so far, Creature Commandos, Peacemaker.
And I asked him straight up, like, what is it like for you to watch Daly's not having directed
this, loving the comic?
Because when he was pitching the DC in the beginning,
Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow was a comic
that was just come out
and like this was part of his initial idea
so this was in real time
him getting to watch the visuals that he loved
so much that he wanted to get it made
and I was like that's gotta be awesome
so we actually had a really long
not long we had a really long talk about
the green sun elements
of one of the stories
and it was really cool to hear him
as a director
being a viewer of a director
so it was a different dynamic
so I had a really cool talk with him
talked to Peter about it
and he's been a fan of this comic since at first launch
He had a lot of Tom King references that made me happy
because Peter Saffron doesn't go out and talk
as much as James, so it's cool to hear how nerdy he is.
Tom King is the artist.
Writer. Who's the artist again?
Bill Quist Evely.
Oh, wow, I did not commit that to me.
So Tom King, one of my favorite writers over DC
is actually a writer on lanterns.
He's an incredible writer.
Oh, wait, no, he's like one of the greats, dude.
So sorry.
Batman.
Yeah.
You know, I love his Mr. Miracles,
one of my favorites of all time.
Anyway, Tom King's great.
He wrote this,
series, Bilkis Evely on art, and
Bilkis Evely, both of them got like
Ringoes and Eisner's and big
awards for this. So it was really cool to talk
to creators from a different lens.
I don't usually get to talk to producers about
comics and to hear how they analyze
it and to hear how they receive the art.
That's cool. It was a very different dynamic.
Then I talked to Craig Gillespie for a little bit. I posted that video
on my page. I actually got to film me
and Craig talking and his enthusiasm
for certain pages. He'd talk
about a page and he's like made
the frame. So I got to feel the little element
Spoiler-free, what he was excited about.
Talked about Lobo a little bit.
And then I talked to Millie Alcock,
and she had a really cool perspective on Supergirl
where she was talking about her striving
being the thing that she connected to most.
And I love that this is a story of Supergirl
in a new era and a Supergirl finding herself.
And she was finding Supergirl
as Supergirl found herself in a new way.
And the way she talked about the character
was so passionate.
And it was really cool to hear an actor,
like not as a comic,
but be excited about a character.
I give it to me.
I really cared about Millie caring about
Kara.
Yeah.
Like, Kara matters more to me than any piece of it if it's going to be from the actor's
perspective.
You call her Kara or Kara?
I call her Kara.
I realize that when I said, carrot sounded weird in my head.
Is that the, is that the correct, is there a correct pronounce?
It's very, it's very Synerac.
Is that a great, well, Kara is a real name.
It is a real name.
Like, I don't know how, I think it's tomato tomato.
I've never met a Kara.
Really?
Have you?
Yeah, like three friends in high school named Kara or Kara.
Have you met a Kara, John?
A friend.
affirmative yes it's a real name yes i have met a carra a couple times actually oh cool and and i have
met carra as well have you met a call l i i i have met a jorrell really yeah we grew up with a kid named
jurel yeah what's it wait was jurel like jorl i'm pretty sure that's what he said like his dad
yeah is a huge superman fan nick cage named his kid callel yeah i know someone who named their kid
eragorn that's cool yeah i'm tempted but ania would kill me
I didn't get a name my kid, detective Pikachu.
And that's respect.
Yeah, it's a deep cut.
But yeah, overall, the van was awesome.
Warner Brothers DC curated a good group of people to actually be invested in it.
Like, it felt the passion in the room was strong.
It didn't feel like people just, like, filming themselves at an event.
And then, like, I really liked that it felt like it was for Supergirl.
And it was really cool to see James Gunn get to be the guy overseeing DCU, not director, writer, James Gunn.
It was really cool to see Peter Safrin get his flowers because that dude is one of the great creative producers.
And it felt like the people in that room cared.
And then Craig Glasby was like a gidy was like a good.
Australian boy like he's a grown man but I can feel he's just like oh my god we're doing a
thing big enough for this event like I tanya's not getting a trailer release party so like it was
cool to see Greg Gillespie get like the love he deserves like I think Lars and the real
girl is so slept on I think dumb money is such a genius comedy like it's cool to see him get his
flowers so it was it was rat event Pam and Tommy Pam and Tommy Greg's fame and Tommy
every time I mentioned him Greg's like Pam and Tommy underrated show people that was a good show
good show that Pamela Anderson was really happy got made you know so thrilled
I'm like, you're a Ryan Gosling diehard.
How are you not championing Lars and the Real Girls much as I am?
I did not.
Top five, Ryan for me.
When I saw Lars and the Real Girl that was part of my Ryan Gosling binge from like a decade ago.
Yeah.
And I didn't really watch it for, at that time, I didn't watch movies as much for the directing.
Ah.
I just wanted to absorb Ryan Gosling's performance.
Sure.
I don't really remember what the style of.
It's a really fun, like.
I remember being really funny.
Yeah.
It's a tricky tone.
Kind of like what Supergirl is.
That's what I think.
Everything led to the, like, his
filmography really suits Supergirl.
Yeah.
And just like Pam and Tommy.
And obviously Pam and Tommy.
Carr's going to talk to her vagina.
That's how we're going to get crem.
He's going to come out of the yellow hills.
Very great.
Look how disappointed in his jacket.
Sad face of him.
Huey on screen.
Well, you want to go through this trailer?
Let's do it, man.
I got a lot of say.
I just remember about Tom King.
He's the reason why James,
James Gunn learned about the glasses.
Yeah.
They can create an illusion.
So we can't see.
James Gun didn't know that until Tom King told him.
Tom King being one of the like architects,
I think is really smart because he's such a deep cut nerd.
Like he's not a surface writer.
He's a guy that research is like he worked for the state department.
This man broke people for a living.
And now he writes Batman breaking people for a living.
Like he's such a really thorough writer.
And I honestly think him being one of the people behind the comic side is a huge asset to
why DC feels so authentic.
Yeah, man.
I'm super duper excited.
All right, we got the images on screen.
We're going to,
well, we could just like skim it, right?
Yeah, we can just go on through.
Here we go.
Look at that.
Hey, that looks familiar.
What's in the background of that?
What's on the record player background?
Yeah, I was actually trying to read that
during the reaction.
I wonder if that's off of her time on Argo City
because it definitely looks like from a different planet.
They got vinyl.
I respect them.
That's good stuff right there.
Good stuff.
Let's stay on it.
Shut up, new rock stars and screencrushing heavy spoilers.
That's what I'm talking about.
Zuma and Hans.
Looks like from another planet.
Move on.
Next shot.
Look at that.
Please explain this record player.
Next frame.
Come on.
Come on.
It's probably a reference to issue number 146 where Supergirl teamed up with
the Justice League of an eight issue series, issue 146.
Crypto, coming in hot.
Crypto, the alcoholic.
Okay.
You know what we should say?
There will be women of tomorrow's spoilers.
That's fair.
We should say that.
If you don't want any spoilers from Woman of Tomorrow.
Skip ahead 15 minutes.
Yeah,
because we want to use this opportunity to be able to talk actual spoilers.
It's called a breakdown for a reason.
Yeah.
All right, guys, I'm leaving the street.
All right, so, yeah, I mean, it is, it is an eight-issue series from...
Just realized that.
It's all good.
I have my chance.
And if it's that good, you know, it'll still be worth the read.
Well, we won't spoil the last half.
Yeah, let's only talk issue six and earlier.
Let's go up until the end of crypto
How about we decide in the moment
Like, hey, should we say this or not?
Yeah, because there's some stuff
Because the second I saw crypto
I was like, that's kind of an important part
Of the start of that comic
Yeah, it's issue one
Literally within like the, it's issue one
It's the start of the story
And it's not hinted at in the trailer
But I will be probably by the third trailer
Okay, yeah
Do you know what I feel like that'll come into the trailers
What the start of the comic book
She's not, I forget what planet Ruthie's from
Do you remember the name of the planet?
I guess read it.
Well, Supergirl liking the trailer's partying.
And when she does come across Ruthie, Ruthie with a Y.
Yeah.
I thought it was Ruthie.
Tom King had to correct me.
I was talking about what tomorrow?
I kept saying Ruthier.
And he's like, Ruthie?
And I was like, oh, I'm an idiot.
Well, what ends up happening is Kara's dog ends up getting, you know, the crypto ends up getting hurt.
It looks like he's going to die.
And so that's part of what ties into Cara.
The two stories become one.
go on this mission with Ruthie because Ruthie's father was killed by Krem, so she wants
Supergirl to, you know, help her go on this revenge quest and Supergirls, and I don't think
so, but because of how specifically, it's been six months since I've read it, but how specifically
crypto was hurt, she feels the antidote to saving him lies in the hands of Krem. Right?
Yeah. So, so, yeah, it's right. So Ruthie basically is on a vengeance tour. She's trying to
enlist someone to kill her,
killer of parents and find Supergirl
drinking. Yeah. And that's what launches their journey together.
But Supergirl's not like a bounty hunter, so she wouldn't
agree without purpose. So Crypto is a very
integral part of the story because that's how
Supergirl becomes embroiled in this.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy the first time I was like,
I don't you have crypto in the first issue?
It's, and I think it's a really smart way to
tie into the DCU. I love that the
Superman crypto stuff
was like a little, not a twist, but like when it was
like, not my dog. And now we
get the relationship between her and her dog and
then trauma. Yeah, exactly. Because if you only set up crypto at the beginning, then it just seems
like some type of John Wick maneuver, which very well could be. But we are now already emotionally
invested as crypto, not just beyond being a super dog, but at an actual character that we got to go
on a character our journey with. So you tie that into Supergirl, then it's going to be that much
more powerful when that happens. And it makes Supergirl feel less like, like, oh, we just got a
girl Superman. Like I know a lot of writers, especially in the pre-crisis era, just wrote like the same.
But I think having crypto immediately makes her a different character.
And I wonder how much this comic actually helped James Gunn crack Superman because he's credited crypto.
You know what I mean?
And he's talked about reading it around the time.
He credits crypto for getting him in.
I honestly think this comic is one of the most important things for the DCU.
Oh, I agree.
All right.
Let's move on from that first frame.
All right.
Let's leave the record player.
Let's leave the record player.
It's going to be a six hour stream.
We're less than a second in.
and we talked for 10 minutes
to explain that.
Okay, we got a speaker.
We got on more bottles.
We got shorts.
We got shorts.
We got shorts.
She wears shorts.
She wears pants once in a while.
Every once in a while.
No zippers.
The zippers are not on the pants.
Okay, cool.
Rocket raccoons under there fixing some stuff.
Can confirm.
All right.
I did not get a chance to slow this down.
Superman saves town nuclear reactor
explodes.
Supergirl saves cat.
That rescues cat.
I like that flip because usually
cats.
They make fun as Superman.
saved so many cats apparently and of course the the bigger part is how supergirl has like a tiny
little section on that and superman's got a giant like headline and all fairness one is a lot bigger
nuclear reactor cats uh you know scaling here but it does say a lot and uh obviously the daily planet
good to see and i like the humor of crypto peeing on him after all that disrespect that superman felt
like he was getting from crypto the entire movie it continues it's really funny and her reaction to it being
oh you did it like that's adorable what did you say you missed a spot or something no you finally
did it in the right spot or whatever like you finally you got it mostly on the paper yeah like it's
intended as just make keeps the daily planet as a body pad yeah it's a local rag pretty funny
uh now that that's already different from the comic because there is no terrestrial stuff in
woman of tomorrow we never go to earth so oh that's what you mean yeah we are already getting
earthbound stuff i imagine it's just the opening i imagine it's like five minutes right from
top. But I'm just acknowledging, you know, this is one of, if not the only time we've adapted
a comic directly. Like, it was called Woman of Tomorrow, but a movie is never going to be a direct
translation. It's always going to be an adaptation. So Earth is already a difference. Yeah,
imagine this is the hangover after we saw her drunk at the end of Superman. Right. All right. Let's move
on. Thank you, John. Thank you one.
Yeah. And then I don't know. Twelve seconds in on that stream.
It's a strong stream. You'll just see it.
shades
that is a beautiful
that's cool because the cinematography
of this bed moment
looks like it's out of Superman
but because of how she's all
hung over and fucked up right now
it is immediately showing like how different
it is draping herself over like that
covering herself in like a cape
you know because the man
was straped in a clock
put in the ship for
Martha it's safety
we got the bus stop
but you know obviously a little bit more space bound
clearly
I never noticed the janky ship.
I never noticed the janky front of that thing like falling apart.
That's totally funny.
All right.
So we're showing the quality of the ship she's taking.
She is not flying first class.
Okay.
So this is her taking her trip then,
writing the ship.
Because in the comic,
she has a ship that she operates herself
and then Krem steals that shit.
Right.
So automatically we're getting her more in Ruthie's position
of having to take the bus.
Whereas,
or she's not with Ruthie here.
But in the comic,
what happens is her ship gets stolen
and she's forced to take the bus
with Ruthie.
Yeah.
I imagine either maybe they just used a take without Ruthie and it's going to be like
the comic or it's a different situation.
Or maybe this is just like her getting picked up from Earth and then being traveled to
that planet.
Well,
then Crick couldn't steal her.
Or she's renting the ship or something like that.
I imagine this is still like before she goes to the planet.
Yeah, this is definitely Earth it looks like, which Ruthie would have nothing to do
with.
Yeah.
Moving on, I do like those shades.
That's cool too.
It's cool to have like a cape-esque device, but not be a cape.
Good CGI.
good computer-generated effects, I'd say.
Also, the benefit of having a world
that already has superheroes,
you can have a bus stop with a spaceship.
This character design, can you go back a little bit?
That character design,
it's kind of funny because the mask on
does sort of look like high evolutionary.
It does a little bit, yeah.
But that is a very, like when I see this kind of alien,
that is very much the kind of alien
I sort of associate with in Manitamar.
when she first
Woman of Tomorrow?
Just because the James Gunn movie
that's coming out next year
or two.
No, man of tomorrow.
Yeah, thank you for clarifying
or else people would have been wildly confused.
In the comments and be like,
you mean the third movie with Brainiac, probably?
kicked down my door while I'm sleeping.
That's true.
It was coming.
Yeah.
Tomorrow.
It does.
It looks like a Bilkis-Eveli-style alien humanoid,
and there aren't any humans,
which one of my favorite things about the comic is
there's no humans.
There are humanoid aliens,
and this definitely gives a vibe.
There are no humans.
I just reread it.
There's not a single human in that book.
Oh, man, I never put.
It's because you have, uh, Krem who, you know, they look human.
But there's not a single humanoid.
Yeah, he said humanoid, yeah.
Damn, it's right.
There's no humans.
It was really cool to reread and be like, wait a second.
I never put that together.
Yeah, a solid point.
But anyway, yeah, the expression from Supergirl to him is the kind of dry expression that I
often associate with the comic book.
Yeah, I agree.
And I think this trailer is poppy and fun and, you know, vibrant to sell.
the movie, but I still think the movie is going to be pretty sad and brutal. I don't feel like, yeah, it's
tonally what the comic is. Oh, I like that. She's stealing a drink. Yeah, she's taking a guy just
buy it up. Yeah, oh, wow, you do have to like kind of slow this trailer down. I miss so much shit.
A lot's going on. Yeah, she's actually stealing a drink from someone, which immediately is the kind of thing
Superman would not do. Yeah, every beat really emphasizes this trailer to me is a trailer of she's not
Superman. I really like that every beat dialogue, visual, it's showing that she's not her cousin.
That's my favorite part about the trailer because I was not really a big fan of that scene, even though I'm like, I get it.
It's supposed to be, you know, Kara who's drunk, she escapes.
It still didn't feel like Supergirl to me.
But this actually more, I have some concerns about some other stuff that I want to go into.
However, what it really did was convert me to the side of, ah, I think she's going to be a great, a great leading Supergirl.
My concerns, I will say, when we get to them, but it was interesting watching this trailer at home and they actually went away because I realized timing.
wise why my concerns are probably not a problem okay cool moving on great shot she's 23 here
in the comic she's turning 21 i assume that is so she wasn't underage drinking in superman
but yeah she's 23 here i just if you go back a little bit john the things that i'm loving
too because lately i i am the kind of individual who notices how flat things look and i like
how this actually looks composed you know that shot of kara yeah there's not that weird
movies looking like
the volume
and Disney Plus shows thing.
Like there's sharpness,
there's contrast,
there's certain types
of dynamic rage and vibrancy
happening here.
I like the different blend
of color schemes happening.
Like the comic itself
is a very colorful comic.
Yeah.
A wide variety.
And like even a shot like this,
I feel like is a really good
cinematic shot.
That actually ties into what I was going to say
in a minute.
But while you're on that subject,
I was thinking about this trailer
and I was like,
there's none of the like sweeping vistas
or giant like fantastical
and then I was like wait a second
movies out in seven months those wouldn't be done yet
no so a lot of my problems
the first time I watched it I was like I liked the trailer
but I was like the thing I think of the comic
is like scope
we wouldn't have that developed so
people in my comments were a lot of people
were saying it was too brown it was too contained
it wasn't like the comic but this is a
teaser trailer and I think they need to sell
the movie more than they need to sell
the comic fans especially the certainly
first impressions are so important
And this does look an awful lot like Guardians of the Galaxy.
I do think the first impressions are important,
but I don't think they can do.
I think this habit of making trailers this early is dangerous for the movie.
Definitely.
A year for Doomsday and seven months for Supergirl.
How can you be ready?
I don't know.
And we already know that movies struggle with getting shit done on time.
And I think it looks great for the teaser,
but I definitely don't go the visuals of the comic, but they can't.
But that's the thing is like, I love this shot.
Can we go back on screen, John?
this shot we're getting right here
I love more than a lot of like the bigger shots
like to me this is more of the kind of
this feels done yeah this looks great
anyway let's move on
the slice of life stuff in this is the most
visually appealing definitely so far
and that's very much the comic too
there's a lot of like bright sunlight
she's also in a lot of bars and like contained
moments between the vistas
well it's like the bar when in her first scene in the comic
what's already very different is the bar
in the comic is feels more like barbarian yeah it's like it's like a dive bar for scum and villainy
not that yeah but you know i mean this has like a disco a little bit more modernism blade runnery
kind of futuristic vibe where that is not the vibe like that the other vibe because in a lot
of ways in the comic she's thematically a knight yeah and i would say that ruthie's kind of like
the squire sure and so like when you go when you start off with in the comic
where it does feel a little bit more like that Game of Thrones era,
this is a very different thing.
This is where the adaptation stuff really comes into me,
where it's not a one-to-one.
Yeah, it definitely.
There's not the same kind of bar at all.
I wouldn't feel like the Barbons Briggins of the comic would go here,
and I'm curious if there's another bar scene.
Yeah, but it's definitely the same scene based off what she's going through right now.
Yeah, but the next scene could be a different bar
because this could be the scene that lends to the opening scene and this could be terrestrial.
Sure.
There are some.
Oh, you think this could be Earth?
Could?
No, let's go back and go back.
are some things that are in another language over there, but we don't know, like, if aliens are
chilling on Earth.
Oh, you think this could be like a secret alien bar?
I think that we accept MetaHumans on Earth.
There's a, oh, yeah, that's right.
There's a spaceship bus.
She's on Earth when the bus comes.
I did run a blank that that is where we're actually.
But you know what I mean?
Like, this could be her pre-Crypto scene.
This does look like a Star Wars canteen a bar.
Right?
Well, and they got like skulls and monster stuff on the wall there.
Oh, that's true.
So maybe it is space.
And I'm just saying I don't know if this is going to be where.
the bear bond brigands are coming in
all right let's move on
barbonds I think it's
Barbons bregans
yeah there's more
yeah that's good catch
oh it's a xenomore skull
Oh it's a predator
This is where it all comes together
What's she's saying here?
This is let's make 23 the best year
The bar's not very high
Thank you, thank you
Do you get a copyright claim guys?
Because I just said the line
I'm speaking
No no
I'm just signing
taste of trying to be aware of the copyright claim
that would probably come in for the trailer reaction
yeah
can we move on John
thank you John
and here we are
Argo City
so this is Krypton
this is Krypton I mean
is this is issue 6 is this a spoiler
I think the context is okay since we know
Krypton we don't have to explain every detail
but you can explain what Argo City
because Spelphil might be confused and like I thought
if Krypton just exploded that one day
So there's a line in this that even says
like, you know, went away in a day and, like, the gods are not that kind.
The beautiful thing about Kara to me and why I like the character, especially in
Woman of Tomorrow, is Callel never knew his planet, and it's a really interesting nature-nurture
conversation.
The reason Kara is so hard-edged is she grew up on Krypton, she saw it die.
But even in that canon, you don't usually live through that death in a long-form way.
Woman of Tomorrow is the first time you hear it from Kara's point of view.
The first time you actually hear her experience, and it's not quick.
so without giving too much away
this is Krypton this is a bubble
that is saving Argo City
this is I'll vaguely say
thanks to her father
and that it lends itself to one of the most
brutal issues in comics and that is issue
six of The Woman of Tomorrow and this is
not Kandor which a lot of people I assume
will assume it is. Kandor is a little
city in a glass case that is very
important to Superman mythology
Kandor? Kandor. John and I love Kandor
Vandemin series stuff
Brady Act Kandor
but
this is an interesting parallel
I actually think metaphorically
what's really cool is if Kandor represents
Superman, Kandor represents hope
and the saving of
something, the preservation of something.
If anything, this is a parallel
to her because this city
represents a failed preservation
and a loss. So I've always loved that
this city and Kandor kind of mirrors in the same way
the Supergirl and Superman reflect each other.
Yeah. And she has that line later in the trailer
of like he looks for hope and she sees
truth, and it's her experience here that happens of where that truth would lay waste.
It's going to break my heart.
Like to a lot, you keep kind of skimming through this Argo footage a little bit, John, because
yeah, Argo is a city that the dad siphons off.
It's because they're like, oh, maybe we can save.
You actually go for it a little bit more.
What if that's named after Operation Argo, which is, you know.
The Ben Affleck movie.
Which is the Ben Affleck movie based off a real thing where, you know, people pretended something
in order to save a group of people.
this is similar.
Look, guys, everyone knows
everyone on Krypton dies.
Spoilers!
Whether you hate this or not, I'm going to say.
I think that's her mom's funeral.
Oh, I definitely think so.
Yeah, because like when it starts off
in that issue, the dad is
a scientist, so he's Zor L.
And the mom, whose name I am
blanking on at this very moment is
Martha.
It is.
What in doubt,
Martha.
I'm spacing too.
I'm sorry DC Comics fans.
I am.
spacing oh
thank you allura
and then
and then
call out's is laura
allura and laura very redundant
zorrel that's that is such
like laura that is such
like forties writing yeah it's such
fucking like you know game of thrones lord of the rings
writing yeah you're pin finn shinkin
and dan
yeah
uh yeah this
what's cool is I feel like you'll actually get
the cryptonian customs like when we
When we rewatch Man of Steel, a lot of people would agree that one of the best parts is the first 20 minutes.
There's a lot of Krypton there.
Actually getting to explore Krypton, but you're only exploring Krypton in the most devastating high-stakes situation, a little bit of the council.
It's visually cool.
But you get a sense of what the Kryptonian world is like and very political.
And this, I think, is going to capture the soul, the humanity, where in Man of Steel, we only really got in touch with...
There's not a criticism in the movie.
It's just who we focus on.
We get in touch with, like, the top political people who are making all those.
calls and stuff
and there's a bit of a coldness
and a lot of decision making
where here I think
we'll actually see
the lives that were lost.
We can feel the devastation.
So much of the time
I do not feel that connected
to the idea of, like I get it.
Factually wise,
it's sad to lose a planet
and all these people die.
Of course, I understand.
That's really sad.
I don't ever really feel
that loss of Krypton
or that weight that comes with it.
You better watch the way
you're talking about men of steel right.
They're coming for you.
Or wasn't that connected to those people in Krypton.
Whereas in this, I think this will really be the thing that will get audiences to truly connect with Krypton.
Because even the Donner movie has the same thing where it's a lot of stoicism and pondering and talking about shit.
This is going to be the humanity.
And I think Kara is going to be our connection to Krypton in a very different way than we've ever seen in the way that you're speaking of it, but also what Argo City could do.
I think it'll be devastating in a very new way for the story.
I do find the color tint of this trailer because a lot of movies adopt the sort of color tint.
Like, Koi and I did a commentary at first time watching the directors on rated version of Watchmen just yesterday.
Spoilers for Reject Schedule.
And we were discussing like the purposeness possibly of like, oh, why this part of the, why the present storyline is in blue tint and the passes in yellow tint.
And I am finding that people are calling this brown.
but I wonder if it's like a darker shade of yellow.
I think it will be dark yellow to show a juxtaposition to the vibrancy of green sun and of the planets that they go to.
I think that's intentional.
But I also think this will change.
This is going to be one of those movies when people look at the teaser trailer and then later footage.
They're going to be like, whoa, everything changed.
Like I think this is seven months a long time.
Yeah.
Well, the dark yellow is kind of casting a shade over the yellow sun where they get the powers.
But I think it's going to be even more enhanced and varied.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I do like that we're seeing
brown.
Or it's brown.
Or it's brown.
It's like, you know,
no one uses brown.
You know, no one uses brown.
You know, I feel like brown's really super-girls.
It's got enough muddy-looking movie.
Everything's always like red, blue, green, yellow.
What if we go brown?
No one goes brown.
This is a whole spectrum of colors in the brown family.
Shades of gray, no shades of brown.
I want to direct a khaki movie.
And then obviously we've got some ceremonial robes,
some kryptonites.
I mean, some Kryptonians on Kryptonites.
Yeah.
I love that white.
Man, that screen.
I actually love that.
I love straight up like Star Lord when in part one.
This to me is what I think the movie's going to look like.
Like this looks like the deluxe edition of Supergirl Woman Tomorrow Collection.
This is the beautiful re-release and hardcover on display.
And I think we're going to get a lot of these visuals.
They're just not done yet.
I think this is when they take her ship.
Ah, yeah, I can see that.
The clothes that she's in.
That's an impressive yell.
Good job, Millie.
Yeah, I think this is when they take her ship because of what point it's at and what she's
wearing. That looks so cool. As I imagine she just got into a fight because that's one of the
things that the trailer does not show you is she under red, she's physically vulnerable. So while
this trailer I think does a good job communicating the emotional vulnerability or at least teasing
it, it's the physical vulnerability that they do tease at the end of Superman with her being drunk
and how she can be drunk. But also that's kind of why the cover of the, like the sword at the cover
is more thematic. Yeah. And it is some type of like special.
mcuffin weapon and well it's to ruthy it's important it's yeah it is but for her to be wielding it
and and like thematically of like revenge justice night all these different things too and of course
to ruthy but this physical vulnerability is more of one i want to capture and like even in the comic
at one point she goes under the green sun where she just can't move and it's just pure torture
for yeah it's a really good issue and that i think will make us really connect it'll be weird because
it'll be funny to me of how people will take it in one of the things that i've often we've
heard people say with Superman, David
Cornswet, is, man, he gets his ass kicked a lot
in this movie. About to see it.
This one is going to be justified from the beginning
because of the fact of the suns
that she's under. That green sun issue,
one of my favorite issues, was written in one day.
No way. Tom King
handed in an issue, which you can read in the back
of the deluxe issue that looks like this. And it's very
like horse girl coded. It's fine,
but it's not as good as the green sun issue.
And he handed it in and the editor was like,
no, this isn't good enough. And so,
he was like, it's doing a day to get the art done.
What do we do?
He talked with his daughter, and his daughter, Claire was telling him, like, well, if there's a yellow son and a red son, what does a green son do?
And he was inspired by his daughter's asking and wrote that entire issue today handed in history.
That's so crazy because that is such an important.
That's an important part.
That's arguably Ruthie's most important issue and some of the most powerful visuals.
Yeah.
So to see the arc dip into that moment, I think is going to be so integral, but he wrote that in a day and some of the writing in that issue is crazy good.
To describe that green sun arc, if you guys have to play.
If you guys have played Last of Us or in the show,
it's the kind of thing when Joel is injured
and then suddenly Ellie has to be the hero
while the main character is injured
and kind of unconscious.
Or I guess if you think about it like in Logan,
I don't know if there's really a scene like this,
but in X23 is taking over and Logan's unconscious,
something like that.
So that's that issue.
Kara's injured and she's immobile.
Because this is very much a lone wolf and cub story.
And it's really cool that they,
They tell it from the perspective of the cub.
Speaking of the cub, that's Ruthie.
Ruthie is straight out of the comic.
She looks so much younger than I expected.
Oh, I always thought of her as a child, child.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
I think of her as like nine.
I guess because she, I don't know.
And whenever I read the comic, I always, she looked kind of like her age,
uh, Supergirl's age to me.
She's literally slight, like small as well.
I always thought of her as a kid.
Ah, this might be my lack of interpretation.
So this is Ruthie, uh, with the sword of such an port.
And this is the.
cub of the lone wolf and cub and it's really cool because this story is told from voiceover
of her in the future so she's telling she's recounting the story and there's some really cool
elements to that storytelling method and the writing of this is really interesting because she's got
this like voracious appetite like in the first issue they used the word alacrity and i was like
okay fucking strapping in we're gonna fucking like the book uses words that people make fun of me for
using and i had to look up some words so it's a really verbose book it's a the vernacular
verbose and full of veracity. And I'm really
excited for the writing. V for Vendetta,
Vagra. My Vigna. My Vigrant.
Vengeance! But I think that it's going to be a really cool
way, because even in this trailer, there's only like four lines
of dialogue, but two of them are like, bars. So I think it's going to have some really
zingy, powerful writing. We actually had a question, just real quick
sidebar, someone asking in the chat, if women of tomorrow
would be appropriate for a nine or ten-year-old to read? How
violent? Like, I think parents
expose their kids to different stuff.
I think it is probably right on the cusp
where if you like talk it through with them,
but as far as like reading ability,
if that kid knows alacrity at nine.
I mean,
like it's a dense book.
It's not a, it's not a,
yeah, it's not like reading Alan Moore,
but it's kind of like reading Alamore.
It's not monosyllabic.
Like, Dan, this shit's taking.
This is a much hard to read than I thought.
Yeah, like I don't know if a kid would enjoy it.
And also you'd have to explain a lot to them,
but I think it's thematically, uh, pretty dark.
Are you guys hot?
in here? A little bit.
Yeah.
Okay, cool. Thank you.
All right. Ruthie, killing it.
Ruthie, more Argo plant. I mean, that's straight up Argo.
That's Argo. It's incredible.
Look at that. Beautiful.
Yeah. Beautiful. Destroyed that fucking plan.
Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of cool wide shots in this, man.
Yeah. Like that. A little great wide shot.
Back to the bar, screaming it up. We got the bus.
I love that that looks like a bus with some, like, rocket strapped to it.
So much of the shots the characters are like,
she's framed directly in center of frame.
And I like when it looks intentional and not like,
see, this looks like a different bar to me.
Well, this looks straight up like.
This looks like the bar that the comic looks like.
That's why I think the first bar feels different.
There's no disco ball in this bar.
Like it doesn't look like another part of that.
It might be, but it feels different enough to me to not bother me.
Not that a lot of bars couldn't have like a big blue light,
but I feel like.
There's blue neon in the other place.
Yeah.
This just feels more modern,
whereas that later one feels more scummy,
but I could just be misreading that.
Okay, so one of the things that I've been saying,
if we go back to that bar shot or like up here
that looks straight up like the ravagersers from Guardians of the Galaxy,
one of the things that I've been hoping for,
as someone, again, I'll just remind everyone.
Now, while Peacemaker Season 2,
I really had a lot of issues with
and wasn't a big fan of the Suicide Squad is still my favorite.
of the DC era movies,
you know, if you're not actually
like the Batman or something,
but like the Suicide Squad.
And of course I love the Superman movie
and I love like most James Gunn movies.
But the thing I was most excited for,
and I also think Creature Command was extremely underrated.
It was that this to look and feel like a different voice.
And the problem that I have with how this was pitched,
not tonally wise,
but the music choice of Calmie by Blondie,
and then a lot of the visuals here,
is I didn't get the distinct voice
of Craig Gillespie
it looked like a big James Gunn influence over it
and that was one of the things
that is kind of a big detractor for me
of this first trailer. I'm not saying the movie
will be that but I was really
hoping for feeling
because that's what makes the universe feel like we're
fleshing on a universe that's not just James Gunn
we have to get past James Gunn's DCU
and start thinking of just the DCU
sure you know I don't go
Kevin Feige's MCU
you know you really should though
even there's a lot of same scenes in that
but I don't go Kevin you know what I mean
but I didn't want to watch this and think of James
Gunn yeah yeah I get that and I
definitely thought of James Gunn while watching this
I'm of two minds about it because I don't
generally like cosmic stories as much
as terrestrial stories in comic books like I
I don't generally
gravitate towards like a Captain Marvel or a
Guardians of the Galaxy over a Spider Man or an X-Men
even the X-Men space stuff I prefer the terrestrial
like I don't like the she all
as much as I care about, like, Stryker.
So, yeah.
Yeah, so when I think of Cosmic, I do think of James Gunn as an outlier of like, oh, he speaks it in a way that makes me care.
So I'm of two minds because if the, if the Venn diagram of me liking Cosmic is James Gunn and this captures that, yeah, but also when I read the comic Woman of Tomorrow, it thematically has similar archetypal things, but I don't, which is a positive, but I don't disagree that this is way more James Gunn than I was expecting.
So I don't know if that's just because they're trying to sell it as a DCU film.
If they're trying to grab those elements to really like, this is doing well.
Or if by the time the movie comes out, I'll be like, okay, because I love Craig Gillespie.
And I want Craig Gillespie to be, when Craig Gillespie was announced, I was more excited than any announcement other than the comic elements of James's thing.
Like, he was the director.
I was most like, no way they're doing that.
So I hope we get to see more of his DNA.
But I don't know if we're going to see everything that's cosmic in space as James because of the nature of it.
yeah i don't mind inspiration from other stuff what i'm what i think we need as an audience though
is not another comic book movie that's just aping some other movie or some other genre that came
before phase one of marvel when everything felt different like we were talking about like the
movies when avengers gathered it felt like five movies well if you look at space opera movies
you know um star wars while people think uh while people love guardians the galaxy and they'll be like
and james gonna said he's taking stuff from star wars i don't think guardians
the galaxy feels like Star Wars.
It's different type of vibe overall.
It's really funny.
The action's very different.
There's no like lightsaber.
There's none of this like,
it's like Star Wars kind of feels like a religion for people.
I wouldn't call that for Guardians of the Galaxy.
No, that's fair.
There's like a funny winziness to it.
And on a very separate note,
we just did a first time watch for 2001 to Space Odyssey,
which Guardians 3 took some visual inspirations from.
But there's no.
Star Wars and Star Wars Guardians in 2001,
feel like completely different
films. Yeah. Interstellar feels
while inspired by 2001
Space Odyssey, very distinct, unique
voice. That's a great example. That Venn diagram
of what we're talking about with 2001. That's what I'm
hoping this trailer is. Yeah, that's more... The center
that is connecting interstellar in 2001
and Guardians. You wouldn't ever compare
those, but there is similarities. I'm hoping
they're accentuating those. Yeah. Like the
the comic is very much like
Lord of the Rings, Logan, in space.
True grid in space. True grid. It's
a much better call, actually, yeah.
And this doesn't, this doesn't feel like that as much as I think it will in the movie.
I hope it does feel in the movie.
That's the big hope.
Sure.
Yeah.
But I know they're trying to sell it and I know that James Gunn's style is very popular.
So I'm wondering if that's been cranked a little.
But I think people want to move past the style.
I think that's fair.
And again, I'm going to get crap for defending it.
I just think that it's marketing versus the movie and I don't know what it's going to be on the day.
I'm leaning towards that being a high likelihood.
Yeah.
I'd be very surprised because Craig Colesby does have a very different.
voiced than James Gunn.
Right.
And I would hate it for,
I would hate it to be a Terminator dark fate situation.
Where it gets stifled for the purpose of.
Yeah,
because the producer was like,
you should make it like this.
But I feel like James Gunn's very excited to be hands off and let this movie.
Like everything he said was about Craig Gillespie and him being a fan of him.
I can't imagine you'd want to,
and the point of Supergirls to not feel like Superman.
And he just made Superman.
So I don't think that would be the case,
but I do think advertising wise I could see that benefit.
Well,
I hope DC takes some notes and does it very different.
trailer for the next one for trailer two i'm gonna call up some people it makes you wonder because there's a
certain amount of gunniness that makes sense to have be consistent across everything but at the same
time you don't want it to fall into the marvel trap of everything feeling the same exactly phase
one versus four yeah and and that's what i'm curious i mean clay faces after this and there's
it would be insanely weird if clay face felt anything like a gun filled uh because it has to not
but i'm curious if this is just to bridge that gap until it's out fair enough that's fair
devil's advocate if anything peacemaker season two has more in common with supergirl than the superman movie vibe yeah you know and this uh dialogue that's come for somebody doesn't like that season that much yeah this dialogue is paraphrased from the comic there's actually dialogue about like this is going to be not so fun for you yeah so there's a lot of really fun pulls for comic fans and i'm noticing in the trailer she doesn't have her suit a lot of this yeah which is interesting because the opening of the comic is very subdued she just has it yeah she's wearing it the whole time well she gets there's
There's a suit reveal because she goes like, you know, it's weird that you're wearing your underwear.
Oh, this crane is what, is that the crane that she ends up using at the end of the trailer?
The spin?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
This, like, mace.
Okay.
Yeah, I think Millil Alcohol goes really badass in this.
Yeah, I think I'm going to love her a lot.
Yeah, I'm really excited.
I love badass.
She's so tiny, dude.
She's like 4-11.
I was shocked.
But seeing it in this made me realize.
Oh, crimmy.
Pause it, please.
Made me realize, it looks like fucking pinhead.
made me realize
it looks like Ryan Airy
Ryan Airy
Matea Shonard looks like Ryan
Oh you see Ryan Airy on YouTube
People are gonna think
No there's that guy
Screen Crush
Someone sent me a message
And they're like that looks just like Ryan Air
And I googled him
I didn't know who he was
And I was like I'm like serious
Ryan texted me this morning
Oh it looks like this guy Ryan Air
Doesn't it?
Oh yeah text Ryan back by the way
Someone said I was like I totally see it
I guess
Looks like yeah
I guess I know Ryan's face too well
Like, I got a cross from him.
Someone tagged me, I thought it was really funny.
I got to see it.
I see it a little bit.
Yeah.
If anything, it looks like Risa Fons to me.
Oh, I like that.
Reesifons?
A little bit.
I know Mateo Shonards do well.
I really like his work.
Like Rust and Bone.
And the Old Guard.
Oh, Jesus.
And we're back.
The biggest fan of the Old Guard.
Stelvin's the sequel.
Millie Alcock being tiny is a big part of why I think people would
underestimate her and she could get away with kicking ass she's a supergirl i think that's also going to be
fun for the shot of her next to superman much like rachel brosanhan being tiny definitely because millie
alcock i was there is no way she's five five this is an internet lie that's got to be an internet
yeah that is a i met her three days ago and that was a tiny human being yeah col coy folded her
and put her in his pocket she fit in my overhead compartment i'll protect you from all this pressure
i'll take as a crem looking fellow i will kidnap supergirl so this is crem here do you think he's
Looking directly into camera, do you think Krem is taunting Supergirl here or taunting Ruthie?
I don't know what scene this is.
I think Ruthie.
I think that, you know, she gets incapacitated and this is him taunting about killing her father.
In the comic, there's a lot of beats of him just being like, yeah, he deserved to die.
He was weak.
Like the character is about conquering weakness and he enjoys thriving over hurting weak people.
So I think Ruthie.
I'm not sure I like this design right now.
I like that he looks like a swashbuckler in the comic.
I hope this sells me.
I'm so far not sold.
I'm not a big fan.
I mean, it does look like those 80s vibe interpretations that they would do of certain
types of those like creepy villains.
But there was something that felt more sinister about just a nasty butcher, you know,
something that felt more Viking.
The night element is missing.
I think why we felt that great night element of Supergirl was she was,
fighting a swashbuckling looking guy.
He's got the weird facial hair like I have.
Like he's like very swashbuckling.
Yeah.
And that is obviously not an option when he looks cyberpunky.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan.
It's like, it's such a redesign.
And I don't know.
There's something kind of,
some might argue that Krem might have a generic look as what we're describing,
but it would be different to the genre.
I hope that I'm sold on it.
But I'm, this is one of the things that I can't tell if I'm too close to the
comic. What I do like is a lighting in a lot of these. The more we slow down this trailer,
the more beautiful. I think the trailer actually looks. It's interesting. As we've gone frame by
frame, I've liked the trailer markedly more as a visual aesthetic. Yeah, definitely.
Because I saw this in a crowd of 100 people on a screen. I didn't really get a chance to look at it.
Yeah, I think a lot of this is just from act. That's straight from the comic. That is a straight comic shot.
This is when they're traveling the bus. A lot of this looks like it's coming from Act 1. And it slowed down a little bit.
it's going slow down before her hand goes over in the bus so okay so she's actually so keep
going forward now john i mean the bus shots go they travel by bus when after she loses her ship
and i think having her be the same size does help like similar in size does help for the screen
presence is going to share so she is actually going to go protect her in that moment there i couldn't
tell for a second if if ruthie was actually kind of helping her but this does look like planet no
this straight up does
I will not
argue
and I just want something
I just looks
because the comic
that's the thing
is the comic
is so unique
in its look
I've never read
anything like it
I've never
and Billquist is art
yeah
and I'm like
that's what you got to capture
but I'm wondering
if the things
that are done first
are the things
that aren't rendered
like this is a shot
of a set
right like this is
practical
this is what you'd
have done first
I do work
though, but we're the 5% that have read
the comment, right? I would be very surprised if all
this was practical, knowing how
films are made today. More practical than
the, the CGI sweeping vistas.
Those are practical lasers.
Yeah, that's definitely Millie. That's why she got cast.
She can shoot lasers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like, oh,
you're the one. Practical.
Practical, they really built the ship. Yeah, they flew
into a mountain. That might
be like towards the finale.
Maybe? I don't know.
I mean, the movie's not going to be a one-to-one.
No, but if
that's the spot I think it is that's like it you said and I like this mirror like when
crypto is laying on Superman in the last movie healing him yeah I think this so far looks
better shot than Superman I mean the DPs a genius yeah like the visuals go back a little bit
oh we'll talk about that we'll talk about the lobo like look at this fucking shot that's the stuff
the comic yeah yeah this is a beautiful shot but this is what half a second in watching it
regular time like we don't get to see a lot of this because I think it's not done
This shot right here feels the most like moving of tomorrow.
100%.
Her falling to her knee looking down with the kind of light.
Sky in transitory color.
Is that green sun?
Is that the green?
Might be.
And that would be her weakening and falling into the ground?
There is a distinct green hue here on the horizon.
Yeah.
And the colors.
Oh yeah.
This is the shot.
I remember, yes, at the trailer event, I freaked out about this because I blinked and caught it.
And we talked about it.
Yeah, I believe that's the green sun.
Okay.
Yeah, that's cool.
Lobo.
Digging through the dish.
and burning through the witches.
Man, I want zombie to score his movie.
Well, I want the movie and to be scored by it.
It's just funny.
Like, even when you read Lobo, it's like, yeah, it's Jason Momoa.
Yeah, it's like, it's like, who else would you do?
It's like, well, when we watch Watchmen, like, well, who else would be the comedian, but Jeffrey D. Morgan?
Right.
Like, there's nobody else.
And yet, he was Aquaman playing pretty much Lobo.
Yeah, but.
He looks great, man.
I like how they didn't give a full look.
They're saving that for the second trailer.
And we got the cigar.
We got the things we needed.
to feel confident.
Will he get his dolphins?
Space dolphins, baby.
I mean, I think he's going to have a motorcycle.
I think he'll say frack and bastiche.
And the cigar makes me happy the spikes.
Oh, it's from that one scene they keep going to.
Now that we've slowed this trailer down,
it's mainly just been from this one set piece,
the action stuff.
I think that's what they went into post-production on
and got done for the trailer.
I think, honestly, this is all from like two to three
different segments that they rush to get finished to pod out.
But yeah, I like the way he's looking
so far and you know he's just going to look great and i like how it's going to be with practical
makeup and stuff but the reason why i think lobo is a good addition now granted i don't know
what they're doing different with crem if they're going to actually give him something enhanced
where he can fight supergirl but you know superman has a really hard superman himself has a hard time
beating lobo and to throw in a villain who is capable of beating or keep or keeping up a fight
with supergirl when supergirl is under yellow sun yeah i think what
could raise the stakes. I don't know how much Lobo will be in here. I hope he's not just
something to set up the future or some bullshit like that. But with his power set and I think
his type of maniacal nature is a good fit to go up against the anger that is within Cara as well.
Yeah, I think so. And the size is going to be crazy because Cara is so tiny and Jason Will was a big
dude. That's going to be a really fun fight visually. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. I love the
Lobo shot. I think they did a really good job keeping it subtle, keeping it like a little under wraps, but still giving every comic fan. Like, they did it. They put it to the teaser.
Yeah. Just like a Kryptonian. I dig it. I dig it.
My dolphin.
Ruthie looks so much like the comic. Like of anyone. I wish she had her helmet though. I think she feels like the Bilquist's art. So yeah, that's a great shot. Man, that's beautiful.
I think the variety. I'm actually seeing more of the variety now that we're slowing.
it down. This looks like the comic to me. Yeah, that's a gorgeous shot. Like, I'll go back to
that shot, John. Oh, my God. I love the, like, how she's, go back for a little bit more,
please. Like, we'll freeze it on the, the very next one. There it is. Yeah. Like,
watching the way, oh, fuck it. That's like, man, a steel shit right there. The way,
I don't even not describe that. She breaks the sound barrier, yeah. The sound barrier is.
Well, breaks through the atmosphere. But I love the, like, sun on the screen left that she's
coming through screen right and, like, how wide it is, making her look small.
all against this huge thing. Oh, it's so beautiful. It's a beautiful shot. And that feels like
Bill Quist's art to me. Yeah. I love this shot a lot. There's a lot of, I did not appreciate
the visual as much until we did this. I think it was doing a lot fast, man, because I didn't either.
This has been really, this trailer's gone up for me. Yeah, yeah, no, it really has. I was
like, yeah, I like, I said it in the reaction. Like, I liked it. I wasn't in love with it.
This is like really enhancing my opinion. Anyway, thank you. I really liked it. I'm starting to
love the visuals. And that was the thing that I was hindered by the first watch.
and then the reveal shot
well this is what I mean by
the yellow in the trailer
because I think the dark yellow is intentional
which people are interpreting as brown
but as you can see this is more of a traditional bright
granted this is also the most like flat looking
of all the lighting that we have seen
so we were talking about death
this is the most least visually appealing part
of the trailer sadly
yeah just looks like 9 a.m. on a Monday morning
yeah
but I think the brightness
and the cleanness
is symbolic of the arc that she's going on through this movie.
Yeah, and literally getting back to the yellow sun, like, thematically and narratively.
Or if this is just the next moment after the fight, because she has the crane here.
That's true.
But I like how she is using, like, a barbaric, like, crane.
Yeah.
Well, I forget what those are called.
Mace.
Like a Mace.
That's what they're called Mace or.
That's what Daryl Dixon uses to defeat Walker's all the time now.
Mace.
Uh, any audience stuff?
I was curious what, I don't know what the audience thinks of this trailer yet other than comments.
Well, how about this?
We're going to do the Boys Season 5.
Do we immediately hop to Super Chats?
Do we want to talk about...
Oh, we've got to do the Better Man trailer.
Better Man!
Better Man!
We got...
Yeah, we're going to disable the Super Chats right now, guys.
So we're going to go through all of them, but you can't contribute anymore.
You can only contribute Super Stickers from here on out, game.
Thank you, everyone.
But yeah, let's do the Better Man trailer.
Did you were able to...
Do what you did prior, so...
We could just watch it.
Yeah, it's be efficient.
All right.
So for those who don't know,
Ethan T.
in particular has been asking every week
for many, many, many weeks
for us to watch the Better Man trailer.
I keep forgetting what this is.
I've never seen it.
Wouldn't you call it right before we aired monkey man?
Yeah, monkey man.
Which was a Dev Patel movie.
But yeah, I haven't seen the trailer.
And I thought this was like some terrible movie.
And then we saw the Rotten Tomato score.
And people really love this.
Phil. Oh, never mind.
So the slow burn cell of Greg
on Betterman. And this is paramount.
So again, if we get into
a certain block or something or some type of
demonetization, this might be muted in the future.
We'll let you know. But let's go, John.
Let's finally see why Ethan T. wants us to watch this.
Have you seen this trailer? I think it's not in a theater
when it came out, but I don't remember it. I just remember
I like Robbie Williams.
Honoring this request.
There we go. Better man.
I'm Robbie Williams.
I'm one of the biggest pop stars in the world.
This is my story.
But I'm not going to tell it in an ordinary way.
Because I don't see myself how others seeming.
Yes.
I'm always been a little less devolved.
This is so weird.
This is so strange.
I love it.
How do you make a biopic?
feel the same
by the stars of the day
he lowered it tiny
you can't learn it
you're either born with it
this is like that thing
where everyone's a Muppet
except one person
but in reverse
and he's a monkey
how strange
I love it so much
as a lover of
bold swings
I'm not quite picking up
on the thematic resin
minutes for him being a monkey
I feel like he feels other
he feels like different
for everyone else
So...
Or he doesn't feel as evolved.
Shut off, you kid!
Ah!
Fuck off, grab me.
And I got.
So is it just a traditional biopic?
But with him as a monkey!
I mean, damn, this looks expensive and huge.
It looks so big.
I mean, I can't imagine just animating the monkey.
Do I look like a pop star to you?
Oh, is it like...
Is it like, is the theme of being a monkey, too, of like, the way how we treat celebrity?
Yeah.
Prove I can make it on my own.
Prove to who?
This doesn't look like a traditional biopic format, actually.
This doesn't look like the Michael or Bohemian Rhapsody.
You're going to laugh.
Do it on the inside, yeah?
The animation looks good.
Dement.
I love that choice of words.
I think you give a fuck what everyone is.
that's a good line
look at the color palette on this thing
it's vibrant man
it looks so heartfelt and soulful
and I really like
British women too
you know it's a sexy
I hope so
the story starts
I'm love in angels
and sleep
it was a Christmas release dude
So for this, they said that he went with the monkey thing partly because it's like to do with feeling less evolved and kind of a slave to your, you know, base instincts as well as the performing monkey motif of being a showman.
Dance monkey dance kind of thing.
I like, and I call the better evolved thing, but I like, I really like the othering of, you know, the visual.
Also, it definitely stands out from other biopics.
Yeah, it looks actually heartfelt and poignant.
That's kind of a movie I would like to just watch on my own.
and sit back.
I don't know about reacting to it.
Did other people have reacted?
Have you looked?
No.
All right.
I wait for other people
that do stuff first.
Yeah.
Like the long walk.
I'm going to let other people walk first
and eventually I'll walk too.
And then I'll go,
why don't we get as many views?
Why after I posted this a month later
and everyone's watched reactions?
It doesn't make any sense to me.
What's even happening?
Oh, Ethan Hawking on Rogan didn't know that.
We should have got more.
Come on.
Damn, Jeremy Johns looks super happy.
Let's do the thing that I'm sure he hates.
Let's just go to his rating.
Let's judge everything.
Go to his rating.
Just to see his rating.
Awesome tacular.
Jeremy Johns rarely gives anything an awesome tacular.
Wow, that's high praise.
11 months ago.
Was this last Christmas?
Is it that recent?
Yeah.
That recent?
A year ago?
I mean, it was Christmas.
I didn't think.
I thought it was this winter 2025 is January.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Or well, I guess Christmas limited theatrical.
I don't know.
Actually, maybe.
Hey.
You're right, man.
That was a really good trip.
It was a good trailer.
That was pretty cool.
That was good.
Thanks, Ethan T.
Hey, we love cinema here.
Yeah.
I don't have too many thoughts other than those.
My thought expenditures got down a little bit.
We did some things.
We've been doing this an hour and a half.
It's usually when we're pretty broken at this point in the street.
Thank you, Ethan T.
Thank you, Ethan T.
Uh, kill Bill, the whole bloody affair.
Talk about briefly?
Yeah, yeah.
Talk about this four-hour movie briefly.
I think it was fine.
I kind of want to.
Did you stay for the post credit scene?
there was a I stayed there wasn't a post-credit scene yes there fucking was at when after when a post-credit scene is a post-credit scene the the black and white like the the drive or was there something after that no it was like literally when the credits are done I guess that it went for all the credits what was it it almost ruined the entire movie for me was it Tarantino talking shit about Matt Lillard no because that would bother me no but anyway let's talk good about the movie okay yeah
Kill Bill, the whole bloody affair.
So for you guys who haven't heard,
Tarantino has re-released his film,
added in, so the animation part with Owen Rishi,
that has a whole plot that is the thing with the elevator
where she fights the assassin.
Yeah.
That is not in there in the original theatrical cut.
So after in the theatrical,
when she kills the boss and it cuts to her in her 20s.
Yeah.
So they cut out that whole thing in the middle of the elevator scene.
Which is solid.
I won't say whatever.
happens in it, but I do think it actually enhances the way volume one ends. I agree. I like the
ending a lot more this time. It's crazy. Kill Bill's always been one of my favorite movies.
And then watching this, I was like, I don't think I could watch it any other way now. Like,
this is the way to, the definitive way to do it. It's, I can't imagine watching it. Half of it now.
Yeah. Yeah. It's so big.
it changes the whole thing because they they uh i'm going to be spoilery about it is the
in the original cut they don't have in the original ending of kill bill one bill says to the sophy girl
first in the in the original cut there's like music going over it there's like because the movie's
ending yeah so they have music going over it we're in the bloody affair there's no music
it's a sound design and also uh she in the theatrical cut when she tells sophy in the trunk
give me your arm you don't see her cut the other arm but in this movie you see her cut the other arm
but in this movie you see her cut the other arm
and in the theatrical
cut she
Bill, they're out of line where the movie
literally ends on Bill saying
does she know her daughter still alive
right which is so different this way and I did remember that
I remember the ending being so different because I was like
that's not what I remember but I remember how
and it was so much better served this way
yeah recontextualizes the whole experience
because you get to be surprised with her
well and when I saw this
your cut slightly different but I saw this a number of years ago
and I had completely forgotten any stuff
about the daughter and that blew my mind i forgot she had a daughter yeah yeah so i was just like
because i haven't seen this in theaters so it's been years for me so yeah if you watch it in this
version this is no way of selling this is i'm only talking to people who know killbill because if i
just spoiled it for you i'm so sorry but if uh if in the in the in the if you watch it in that
version not knowing her daughter was alive that then you get to be in the bride's pov versus when
you watch kill bill too the whole time you're waiting for her to find out yeah i love being her
eye line yeah and i and it does make the this experience so much it makes all of their stuff sweeter
it makes their relationship so different because you're rejoining their relationship in real time yeah
you're not waiting for it yeah you're getting to experience it yeah also love the animated sequence
the animated sequence is brilliant so john when you saw bloody affair years ago yeah what did they
did they have this fight in the in because this bloody affair did not have the famous deleted scene where bill fights people in the it's like it's the bill has one fight scene and they completely cut it out yeah and i thought it was going to be in this but it wasn't you could you could find the scene online yeah okay but they don't have the extended animation scene no because i think that was only finished recently and i think it was probably it's got something because they teased releasing this every handful of years anyway and i think maybe that might be part of why they did it now
No, for real.
So in the animated movie, if you guys haven't seen it, if it hadn't been a while,
there's the boss who kills Owen Rishi's parents, and he has a main henchman who does it.
So in the theatrical hood, she only kills the boss, but you don't see her kill the main henchman,
the main assassin guy.
So the next eight minutes is dedicated to that part.
And when it first played, because Olivia and I is one of her favorite movies, too,
have played we looked at each other and we were like that was cool but hey i don't think it was
entirely necessary to have it but then when we get to lucy lou at the end it works so different
and never dawned on me that this is also lucy lou's movie like this is the thematic version
of her becoming the thing she sought to take revenge on and yes is that in kill bill one yes
but here's the difference in kill bill theatrical cut by not showing her
kill the main head assassin and only the boss, that is not really driving home the point
that she's becoming what she is because she is Bill's main assassin. She is Bill's top dog
hardest assassin to kill. So that way she is becoming the main thing that they actually
cut out. She's not Bill. She's that guy in the elevator. So to complete, because she's just
an assassin for hire. Right. And then when you get to that tragedy there, oh shit, this is also
her movie, and it never
dawned on me that this is also Lucy
Lou's film. Yeah.
So, yeah, I thought it was stronger, and
the Crazy 88 fight
moments before it happened.
I looked to Olivia, I'm like, is it going to be
in color? And it was
in color. I was like,
and there's stuff in it that's not in
the theatrical. I know that fight pretty well.
And there's stuff in it that's expanded.
And it was the whole thing was in color, and it
was fucking gorgeous. I mean,
it works as black and white, but man, is it pop better
in color. So yeah, I think it is
the definitive way to watch it. I will tell you what
the post-credit scene is soon, but I want to hear your thoughts.
So I hadn't seen it in some theaters. I
saw it, what year did it come out?
2005? Five, I think. I think it's
the 20th anniversary. So I saw it in 2005.
I was
2003. Oh, 2003.
Yeah, so I was 15. Yeah,
so I was 15. I remember,
so I still have a really hard
time with, I don't know if I can say
this word on YouTube.
Grape. I have a really hard time with that as a
narrative.
So I remember when the scenes happen in the hospital, I was really turned off from the
movie because I remember thinking they made the guys in that scene too cool where they
were like likable, but I was 15 and rewatching it now.
I was like, oh, there's this pieces of shit.
But as a 15 year old, I didn't like that being a narrative.
So I was like kind of turned off from the movie.
And then I remember the way it ended, I was like, that's a little cheesy because I
didn't know film yet.
Like I did not understand the coolness of the choice.
And then when I saw the second one, I thought it was fine.
mine, but I was expecting the action of the first one again.
So I remember both let me down in different ways.
Yeah.
So I'd never watched them again.
I considered this like lower tier,
Tarentina,
uh,
watching it now as a grown ass man with the knowledge of the,
the whole journey and then like with more film knowledge.
What an experience.
Uh,
it went for,
I literally gave the first,
I gave it two stars and now it's four.
Like it doubled in my experience.
Uh,
I thought that obviously I've always thought the violence was beautifully rendered,
but the emotional things work so much better for me.
All of the,
the,
the, the,
the,
and like Michael Madsen's brokenness and the consequences of being a piece of shit as a person
register so much more like the consequences of being an assassin for iron hire your life isn't
great like yeah I love the metaphor of the sword and and what that meant like all of it worked
as a grown man yeah I just think I saw it too early and I think I was an image I was already an
immature 15 year old much less a 15 year old seeing it yeah so I I had a great time with it
I really loved it Greg gave me my tickets thank you great and if you get to experience it with
the full chapter is like how chapter one,
because they tell it in a weird nonlinear way,
but the format's great.
But the chapter one of her being a person without a daughter,
but then killing the mother and the daughter there
and the movie ending with her having her daughter.
Yeah.
Oh, this is a cool, like narrative structure they're actually telling.
I had a similar thing with Scarface where I didn't remember the second half of Scarface.
Well, I only remembered the cool stuff.
Yeah.
And I didn't see it for like 10 years.
So for 10 years,
I was like,
why would I watch a movie that's like advocating for drug dealers?
that are thriving.
Most people don't remember the rest of that stuff.
People love Scarface.
But that's the thing.
It's like I thought of Scarface as like a bad narrative that doesn't deliver on what it should.
And then I rewatched it last year and I was like, wait, is Scarface a great cautionary tale?
And I had the same thing with Killbearer.
I was like, I think it succeeds in all the things I thought it failed that.
It was beautiful, brilliant.
Fucking loved it.
Loved it.
So the credits sprawl.
And.
We're about to leave.
And then a thing pops up.
The Lost Chapter.
Olivia and I freaking out.
I thought it was going to be the scene.
They're going to restore it because I'm like,
that makes sense.
The Lost Chapter.
It starts to go.
Tarantino's voice, he's voicing Bill.
All right.
What proceeds is what I thought was kind of a spit in the face to fans.
Genuinely.
It almost ruined the entire.
higher thing for us.
It's only eight minutes long.
It is the Fortnite thing.
It is animated
with like shitty, like not as good
Spider-verse stuff.
Tonally, it's kiddish.
She has her, so what this chapter
is, it's, I think
it takes place right after she kills
Vernita Green.
And it's the girl with the crane, her
sister is going after her.
And he calls this the lost chapter,
meaning this was something
that couldn't be in the original film
and you watch it and you're like
what a load of shit
like he made millions of dollars
wrote the bullshit for Fortnite
what proceeds is a childish
thing that has
a banana character
terrible dialogue
action that is like gun action
that is not unique or cool
they don't even call it the pussy wagon
They change it.
Yet they have swear words.
There's like a teleportation moment.
It becomes science fiction in it's eight minutes long.
I'm like,
where would this have ever fit in your narrative?
What the hell?
This is clearly, it was the only, like this sounds like a studio skit.
This sounds like a skit.
What I exactly told people.
What?
Remember the Ron Howard episode?
Yeah.
Where they watched the Ron Howard movie.
Yeah.
Brilliant, beautiful.
And then the credits are like, oh, it's still going.
Yeah.
And then it completely ruins the entire.
sounds like of the studio, and especially Tarantino
voicing it, this sounds like, make-belief.
When it was done, I'm like, that was awful.
We just looked at each other, like, that was really bad.
And then we just sent the car ride sound, like,
wow, that's like, I can't stop thinking about how, like, dad that was.
I was like, this is the last thing you're leaving your audience with.
I'm so glad I didn't see it.
Oh, shit.
Because I didn't like the movie, and then I did, I would have not again.
Dude, it fucking, like, it was like, why would you do this to the pants?
He made a Fortnite ad at the end of his masterpiece.
It's a fortnight movie.
ad that doesn't fit in at all tonely stylistically it is I thought it was like an insult
that seems maybe everyone who sat through this for four to half hours maybe don't make your 10th movie
tarentina maybe maybe you're not the guy anymore like as with the credits when the credits were
going we were going back and forth she's like you know I think to be she was like I think to be a cool
like prequel miniseries they could make it I'm like I think they should do kill bill three they should
do that like we were going back and yeah we're like we were going back and forth and then right
when it was done, we're like, I don't think you should continue anything.
I don't think you should do anything.
Like, I guess this is who he is now, you know.
And it's weird to watch the Restoration Pure Film way.
And then the sellout thing at the very end.
Attached to the art.
Wow.
Tarantino loves Fortin.
Obviously, it's from the heart.
Everyone knows.
Like, I think maybe you can maybe enjoy it as a thing, but it's definitely not.
Even if it was in the script originally, it's,
definitely changed for fucking
fortnight i was missing the teleportation elements
yeah i was missing the science
fiction special juice element
that bill makes to give her superpowers
when there wasn't a banana based character
i noticed and i was wondering why
no potassium here and the animation
isn't good either oh yeah it was
really it was really not the crazy
88 fight was originally supposed to all be bananas
oh that makes sense they could only afford the yellow track
is anyone in the chat did anyone the chats are they defending
fortnight banana i can this was
so bad I was so upset
wow I was like we should have left
I had the good taste in our house so glad I did because I had a good
time also the fact that I was like yeah I thought that was a post credit you're like
eight minutes I was like certainly not certainly not
yeah you can't the fact they called the lost chapter meaning this is so
this is part of it so why'd you do this such bad writing like and be like and it's there
sister.
Yeah.
Like that sounds so thin.
Oh, man.
Anyway,
want to read some Super Chats?
On that note,
I'm so glad you asked me
what I thought first.
All right,
on that note,
let's super chat.
I mean, still,
definitive way to watch it,
brilliant time.
I would just say skip that.
Finish the credits, turn it off.
Finish the credits,
leave.
Yeah.
Fucking hell.
Wow.
Oh, boy.
All right, gang.
It's all right.
It's all right.
We'll fix it.
We've got a bunch.
We'll fix it.
All right.
Here we go.
We got some super chats.
Thank you guys for chiming in.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Screen speak.
You're up first.
Appreciate you.
How to get more views and likes on my normal videos.
I don't seem to get as many as I do on my shorts.
What can I do to get people interested in my movie channel?
Gosh, that is, every time I think I got to figure it out, you fucking, I'm great.
I'm performing.
So much of the time, you know, you got to learn SEO.
You've got to learn timing.
Everyone has a different algorithm for their channel,
and it's very common for shorts to get more views.
YouTube really promotes that.
It's like shorts get more views,
but ad revenue pretty awful on it.
Doesn't translate.
It's pennies.
Yeah, it's really not great.
Maybe you can use it to help promote another video,
but even then the views don't really translate that well.
And if you're mainly doing shorts,
they might be only prioritizing your shorts over your normal videos.
And your audience might want shorts,
and then you defeat the purpose of.
And so that's why we're trying to be consistent with our live streams.
That way it actually gets pushed more to our audience now because if we're only doing it once and a while.
It took a while for us to.
Yeah.
It's been like growing steadily.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's a much deeper question.
You have to like literally look up a bunch of YouTube videos and you have to, you have to study your analytics, like a mofo.
It's a lot of monotonous.
And every month, it's a new deep dive for me every month.
Because the thing is YouTube is always changing how to get your video successful.
They're always changing it.
And if you're running your own channel, it is just kind of a pain in the ass.
But rewarding when you figure it out.
My October is the worst month I've ever had on my channel since I've been using it actively.
So I also know a lot of people are struggling with like the late fall.
But I've had to like change my thumbnail style.
I've had to change my titling style.
I've had to, you know, do everything I could.
So it just, it's trial and error for me.
Yeah.
And they are put on a smaller scale.
They also start to favor.
and push stuff and you never really know and then they want before it was like you want to get more
views from your subscribers now they care about a thing called reach where you want to get it from
your not subscribed as much yeah then you hear a lot of people do intros on videos of like
i'm noticing like 51% of you or 60% of you aren't subscribed i'm like well youtube's kind of doing
that intentionally yeah uh to push it so yeah it's just uh it's complicated man you got to be
really consistent though that the main thing is consistency at the end of the day it's consistency
but also evaluating
if you just keep doing the same thing over and over
without evaluating then you're never going to grow
I wish I could give
like the most prophetic advice but I really
can't. I've already asked
it's all good
we appreciate any insights
Shane Adams, thank you for chiming in
Shane loved
the Supergirl trailer
might be biased because I love the comic
but I can understand the skepticism
because of the Guardians of the Galaxy feel
however I love Guardians movies and people
People are overlooking Craig Gillespie.
Yeah, it's not the dislike for Guardians.
It's the idea of just wanting something different.
That's what audiences really want.
They want something different.
They want something unique.
I think the nostalgia farming is not going to work as strong.
What's I'm wrong about something?
I mean, I've got AI for that.
A Disney movie will do it.
A good nostalgia farm.
But for this new age, as superhero cinema is having a hard time,
you've got to do something different in order to regain an audience.
otherwise people are going to be like, it's just more the same.
And the excitement, I think, we all had for the slate was, oh, we're going from Superman to Supergirl to Clayface.
Those are all so different.
Oh, we're going from Creature Commandos, Peacemaker.
Like, the variety is the thing.
I think they know that, both from the launch and also from my experience in talking with them.
I do think this personally, I think this trailer was to sell more than it's exactly the film's tone.
And I think that makes sense this early out, but I don't want people to just assume I'm shilling.
I just, I hope that as well.
Well, they're trying to get a lot of trailers up in front of Avatar.
Yeah.
That's the main goal.
And it makes sense.
It's the big movie of the year.
Yeah, it's the billions of dollar movie.
I hope it fails.
People just go over the trailers.
Apparently they're releasing the Odyssey prologue thing with 70 millimeter prints of One Battle.
So I'm going to go.
Oh, that way One Battle is so hyper sold out because I was trying to get tickets just to watch One Battle.
I'm going to see it for the Odyssey.
I mean, I'm going to see about one battle again, but I didn't know the Odyssey and then I read that today.
I was literally just trying to get it.
trying to go for one battle yeah i saw it what's going on no seats available i want to see it in 70
millimeter because we saw it in iMacs we did i want to see it in 70 millimeter was 70 millimeter
was it yeah that screen's just slightly ratio but the universe imax is a 70 millimeter format
but universal i max is yeah the it's not always the square aspect right and that's what i was
missing and i want to see it like blah but thanks for the thanks for support and i'm glad you're
very very positive i'm glad you read the comic and that's true that i didn't think about that there
are some people who are they do see guardians
and they go, I like guardians, I want to watch.
That's what I'm saying. I think they're selling that. There will
be that audience and I'm just
not that audience member
personal. And I feel like the numbers
are going to speak to.
How's it doing?
I mean, I don't know how it's doing right now.
All right. But I'm curious what the
Zite guy says about it. You know,
they're going to combine all the trailer numbers from every single
upload they did. And then they're going to go,
this is the most popular trailer ever shown in the
history of mankind.
I'm so glad we didn't get Doomsday this morning
at like 5 a.m.
I would have been up.
I know I checked.
I woke up.
I'm a man of my word.
I hated it, but I was up.
Checking.
Can we move on, please?
Neither.
All right.
Knave.
Thank you for chiming in.
I think Supergirl might be better than Superman.
I think you have seven months to decide that.
I think it very much could be
because Superman had to do setup and combine
and they're not directly adapting something
where I think there's a better,
is it easier a guide?
when you're adapting something specific.
Yeah.
Which is weird they don't do it more often.
I know.
When the comic is a movie.
Yeah, the comic's so cinematic
and it's the writing is so perfect for this.
Like some comics should be shows.
Sure.
But then there's some comics
where you're like,
there's a movie right here.
Just make that.
This is one of those.
And you're okay, you know?
Yeah, I have high stakes and high hopes for this.
I think that's why Zach Snyder's
least divisive film is 300.
Right.
Because it is one comic.
Yeah, follow that, even though he makes changes, it's a formula, and if it's right here, make that, you know.
Absolutely, all right.
Thank you, Knave, expert criminal.
Thanks for bringing your expertise.
My YouTube rap says I watched 890 videos this year.
Holy shit.
Wow.
Thank you guys for keeping me sane.
I escape my life through these videos.
Best humans ever.
Oh, thank you.
800.
I got to say, man,
so many people keep,
it keeps getting added to us
on our Instagram especially,
so thank you for following us and doing that.
So many people keep coming at us
with, like, oh, I'm 0.1%.
I've seen this many videos,
and it is really heartwarming.
It's hard to receive that.
So seriously, though,
from the bottom of our hearts,
thank you for being such dedicated viewers.
Really, really do appreciate it.
And for those who keep coming back
every week to watch Koi and I and John
every week.
Thank you for doing this.
man, this really means a lot.
I'm always tired, and I always wonder, I'm, like, just dying too fast.
And then I did the, I saw all the raps, and I realized that I was on seven different
podcasts that made people's top 10.
And that's not everything I do.
And it really hit me that, like, I'm outputting enough for the exhaustion I feel.
And it felt really good.
So you guys, like, help my sanity a bit because I, I think I'm a little bitch a lot.
Like, when I'm tired, I'm like, I do YouTube.
I'm not like a coal miner.
Why am I fucking exhausted?
But then I was, I was tagged in seven different shows of hundreds of times.
And I was like, oh, I'm doing too much.
but thank you.
So thank you.
I appreciate it.
But the amount of coal miners
that watch our videos
is astronomical.
It's usually who's messaging us.
They're in the mines on their phones.
They get surprisingly great signal down there.
The black lungs brought you by real rejects.
Great movie reactions down there.
All right.
Extra criminal.
Appreciate you.
Dead shot.
Dead shot.
DC.
Thing I'm happy about is the cinematography
and lighting doesn't look like Superman.
Feel like that was a bit of an issue
with Marvel recent stuff.
was that they hardly felt unique and just sort of bland.
We went frame by frame,
and I definitely felt like it was a really stunning visual palette
when we slowed it down.
And I stand by the fact that it's out in seven months,
so I think we haven't seen.
This is the tip of the iceberg visually, so I'm excited.
Oh, there's so many scenes.
There's so much to cover.
Yeah.
We haven't even really got like a full space shot yet.
Right, you know.
Like with that one fraction of yelling.
There's so much to go cover.
And that taste of green planet.
yeah man
I feel like
you ain't seen nothing yet
you think Comet
is a horse
I'm so curious about
Comet's such a weird character
Comet's a pre-crisis character
I'm not going to reveal why he's weird
but Comet is a Pegasus
and it's a character
from another era
I'm really curious if they do that
formerly a human right
or something and then
and then turn into it
and it is something that
it would be tricky to navigate
in a modern film but
I think you got to go full
weird, man. It'd be crazy. I think you got to go full weird. James and I were talking about the
evolution of comic book film at that event. And we were talking, I brought up the X-Men suits. And I was
like, I feel like this is one of those things where there's a visual language evolution that
this comic could be. Like when we look at the X-Men black leather up until today's modern
suits. I'm like, this could be like a launching point of like a visual aesthetic. And we had a
really cool talk about the evolution. And then I brought up pre-crisis versus post-crisis. And I was
like, I've been seeing what I hope the DCU to be as like a post-crisis comic book thing.
and he's like, you're a nerd coin.
I was like, that's true.
Yeah.
We had a really good talk about the scaling.
I think safety with movies has to be done with.
Yeah, dude.
The reason why is because we consume so much media beyond movies and shows.
All of us are practically consuming media in some form or another, so we're constantly
craving something different.
Yeah.
So, same Csies has to be done with.
And so, yeah, I like the way this is looking, and I hope the movie leans more into that in their post-production.
And weird leaves an impact.
Yes.
We just watched 20 years.
later the bone temple
weird as hell
I love that movie
it seems to
weird ass movie
and weird stuff
is unique stuff
I talked about that
movie for an hour
outside the theater
I haven't done that
with most movies lately
well weird
doesn't always equal good
true
but it does leave impact
but it does leave impact
yeah
well and it's a swing
like I'll take weird
because at least you're swinging
for something rather than
the same thing I've seen
and if you've seen 28 years later
you know Samson is swinging something
but people forget
that's why
we forget that's why
Guardians of the Galaxy
was such a hit.
It was weird and different.
And good.
Yeah.
You got to be weird,
different,
good.
Guys, that's it.
Just make it weird,
different and good.
Simple.
How hard is that to do?
Come on.
All right.
Frankenstein.
Weird different good.
Different good.
One battle after another.
Weird.
Different good.
All box office hits.
Weird, different good.
Lilo and Stitch.
Finance of Freddy's two.
Minecraft movie.
Weird.
Different good.
Lilo and Stitch.
A shot for shot,
but some shot.
Weird different good.
Hit the three quadrants.
That's how it's done, guys.
Three triaggrinds, I don't know.
Silhouetted animator, interesting to note.
Thank you for noting.
The newspaper date that Crypto Tinkles on reads Thursday, October 4th.
The only recent dates that matches with is 2018 and 2029, so some daily bugle editor forgot the weekday.
Whoa, that is fucking specific.
That is some sleuthin.
I respect the sleuthing.
Maybe the first Monday in this.
this universe was on different day.
Yeah, that's true.
The vast multiverse out there, and their calendar has got all
to be a little different.
I appreciate it.
I didn't even think to look up the dates.
That's such a funny thing.
Yeah, that is so, I respect that.
That's the Merrick Voss shit.
I respect you.
I was going to say, is that a date significant to comic
publishing coin?
2009 hasn't happened yet.
Well, no.
Well, no, what was the other date?
2018.
The comic came out after the pandemic,
So it wouldn't have been there.
Well, October 4th.
I'm trying to think of it.
No, not that I know of.
That's a, I'm going to get some Googling, but I, no.
Appreciate you.
What's his next question?
We're moving on.
Thank you, Silhouetted Animator goes on to say,
we got to have one way or another by Blondie.
If they're pulling out, call me from the same era,
I'm on a get you, get you, get you, get you, get you one way.
Did you like the song choice for Call Me?
This one, we didn't discuss that.
I thought it made sense because it's someone like offering help.
like to me it feels like a super girl anthem of like you know i got you call me like to me it made
sense and it's also that punk rock that girl power high energy yeah it fits narratively it fits
it fits good good contribution man yeah look at us look at daddy harry to do a came in
october fourth was the debut of dick tracy oh and this movie is definitely honoring dick tracy
obviously yellow dick tracy she doesn't have a dick
And kids like to trace comics
Here we go
October 4th
It all makes sense
And what else makes sense
Is Jordan Garza
Chiming in
Love to hear from you
You
Yo
Love you guys
Hope your December
Has been jolly
Jolly
Miracle shout out
Hell yeah
Coy
I appreciate your support
On my animal man art
Trying to grow my page
And y'all
Can't appreciate some
handmade art. So thanks for real.
Jordan Garzer. I've got something to say that's a compliment, not an insult to make sure it
comes out that way. I love you. I see your name all the time. You're always supportive. You're
always great. I didn't even realize that was your art and I shared it because how good it was not
because it was yours. That's a compliment. I saw it and I was like, oh, this is a dope art. And I just
immediately shared it now that I know it's yours. So glad I did. You're a delight.
Can't wait to AI his art. Just scan it. Make sure you steal all the style. All of the years of
work. Might as well. Don't prompt, my guy.
You know, you could draw away faster if you just, like, steal it,
type in a few words.
Plagiarize it.
Like McDonald's.
We're democratizing art.
For the every man.
For the people who don't want to go through the hassle of making art.
You want to skip the trauma of making yourself an artist.
Boy, oh boy, do I have some buttons for you.
A silhouetted animator.
Thank you for a three-peats.
The alien bar in this honestly reminds me of the fixed point bar in Legends of Tomorrow's
final season where time travelers and
aliens hanged out and had
earthly knick-knacks
point bar arrow verse
your boy didn't watch Legends of Tomorrow
I apologize there were a lot of shows
on the CW so it doesn't aesthetically
look that similar to it
but I guess like theme
wise and point-wise I guess is what he's getting out here
I highly doubt
they're taking from Legends of Tomorrow
I forgot
we got humans in that one Marvel movie
it's kind of crazy how the DC universe
had like 20 that doesn't
I think I don't want that to be a forgotten time
of DC that's it was like 23 years of CW
I don't think it's gonna be forgot I think when we get
like a crisis event in movies
which I think James Gunn is nerdy enough to do
I think that he'll like
It's extremely impactful
I mean he's friends with Rosie
I feel like they'd be awesome to have them in there
Like so much audience doesn't
They start they got big with Arrow
Right you know
Arrow who was playing Batman
Yeah
They just made him Batman Begins, but, you know, it was like fucking effective.
And then Flash and Supergirl, like it went insane.
Flash show, man, it's pretty cool.
And Supergirl and the Superman and Lois, like, they introduced a lot of characters to the mainstream.
And they made characters that would never have gotten, like, someone knows Black Lightning because of that.
Exactly.
Like, that's impressive.
So, yeah, all the flowers to the CW.
They absolutely deserve it.
And they had really obscure characters and, like, they cast actors to play them and that got careers.
Like, it did a lot for acting, TV, comics, like.
I think they're a net positive.
Yeah.
I like when the CW started a lot of careers.
And the WB did before that.
I auditioned for Jimmy Olson for three rounds before McCodd Brooks got it.
Did you get it?
Didn't get, didn't get it.
Talked with Skyler a lot about it, though.
We compared her Jimmy Olson perspectives because we were dressed the same at the premiere.
We thought that was funny as Jimmy's Olson.
Did you ever see the Birds of Pray Show?
I did not.
I remember it, though.
Yeah, it was Batman and Catwoman had a daughter.
Yeah, Helena Wayne.
Yeah.
Was it, Helena?
I don't remember, actually.
Huntress?
She was Huntress.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It must have been.
Probably.
Yeah, but she was kind of like Jackie Chan's daughter.
In the animated series?
No.
Like, I don't know.
Jaggy Chan's real good.
Oh, like, I was like, did they do that in the show?
Yeah, that's not fun.
Jackie Chan's not a good dad.
It's unfortunate because I love Jackie Chan.
And that fake daughter thing that happened?
Awkward.
Well, and they're always, you know, people always come out and being like,
oh, yeah, Jackie Chan was here for this thing.
He's so great.
She's such a nice guy, and I'm like.
cool just not when it comes to family if he can do that yeah unfortunately
Ethan T he's asking does that mean no live tomorrow nope today's alive today's
live tomorrow oh we got to do uh tomorrow comes today we got to do a knives out movie
oh that's out tomorrow midnight oh that's exciting I'm excited for that
knives midnight shoot me night shit midnives a mace masker Rick was it master Ritz
let's see we got
is oh look out now hide your hide your daughters coy has met millie alcock i have jealous a f over here
i i was not expecting her to be so tiny uh i was also uh she was it was really cool to see someone
who's been a tv star to her scale uh get a movie but also like there aren't usually these kind
of events for you know say house the dragon or any of the work she did in australia so i could
tell it was a lot for her, but she was so gracious
with everyone, and that meant a lot to me as, like, someone
about to embark on playing a hero.
When you're surrounded by 80 people
and you're not used to being, like, in that position,
I could tell it was alarming, but she never was
not gracious, and she also was, like,
really cool with everyone I saw her talking to.
That went a long way for me. And then when I
went to talk to her, um, there was a complete
and total miscommunication. I asked
everyone very clearly at the beginning of the event if they were
wanting filming or not. And they said, yeah, film,
but it needs to be released after the trailer. We had a
conversation. It was very clear. I was cool with filming Craig Gillespie. It was cool for me to
film my moment with Peter Saffron, who doesn't usually go on camera. I was very flattered. There
was no room for me in James to film because 80 people swarmed and we were talking like this
close. But when I went to Millie, I thought I could film so I could share it with you guys on my page.
But immediately everyone was like, no cameras. And I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. And then
then there was an immediate like, I'm sorry, Millie for whatever just happened and made this
entire interaction really awkward. And then she was like, no, no. And we had a really good talk
about the character and to see her switch gears from like what's happening to like oh i'm an
actor and here's some thought really great sign for her press tour and i i just had a really
good interaction with the person that is millie alcock she's great oh that's so cool coy it was
solid but did you ask her about making out with matt smith i was definitely like yo mattie s what
kind of kiss a doe what that tongue do tell me about that doctor's who uh no i next time
what's that tortoise do
oh is it really bigger on the inside
but yeah
she seems great
their doctor who references
they don't have to make sense
have to be relevant to the show
but she seems great
from our limited interaction
she was lovely
all right
Ethan T's back
thank you Ethan T
and I'm glad
that you're best friends
with Millie Alcock
that's it
Ethan T says
also
A little fun fact no one asked for
I spent
117 days in a row
on your vids
No fucking way
For better man
That's how sad and passionate I am
Hyped for Logo
For Lobo
17 days asking for this movie
That's insane
Thank you
That's incredible
That's fucking great
I don't know if I've ever loved
Anything that much to like
It's almost like that
Someone keeps commenting for us to react to like
Bo is Afraid or something like that.
There's day one million of trying to get
someone to react to something.
There are a couple movies people really continually
ride for. I'm glad we watched the trailer
for you. But a trailer in this context
is easier to ride for.
Hell yeah. Jose, don't worry
about it. Thanks for
chiming in. Hey, where's Koi's
Cape? Have a good stream, guys.
Yeah, where's your cape? I
wasn't invited to react to the trailer
because I'd already seen it.
I wasn't here as the
gang this morning
I'm going rogue
next time
I'm sorry I didn't wear my cat
I didn't dress for the part
I apologize
yeah you bitch
I failed you
I'm okay
Ethan T
no more cakes
Ethan T again
just to reiterate
I literally commented
117 days
in a row for this film
even if my girlfriend
won't watch
with me
love you guys
I am
just for Ethan
we need to get
you don't have a girlfriend
come on
The life in times of Ethan T.
Girls love Betterman.
I am fascinated by Ethan T.
Like his goals, his life, the lady.
I, dude.
I'm from the 90s.
Nerds don't get girls.
Come on.
Where's the Ethan T. biopic?
Jesus.
I want to see it.
You're just in your mom's basement.
Yeah.
Nerds aren't making the biggest art and pop culture.
You're your mom's being hot dogs.
Lissiting to Robbie Williams out.
Where's my better man?
Holy.
hot dog mustard on my shirt.
Betty T's hot.
We're my Goonies team.
Okay.
Thanks.
I bet you feel real good about that time.
All right.
Danny,
thank you for chiming in.
Joker's Shoes guy.
Hashtag coi for DCU Aquaman.
Shouts out to Danny.
That was an age ago.
Yeah.
That's a sick-ass shoe.
He made me, he custom-made shoes
where one shoe is Heath Ledger,
Joker, and the other's Arthur Fleck
before Joker folio do.
but, you know.
When people liked that joke.
When that joke
I meant something.
When it was revered.
Commendable.
I would definitely
if I was a better actor,
would want to be green arrow.
But as a not good actor,
Aquaman seems easier.
I also can't swim.
You can't swim?
Don't how to swim.
You just got to punch it.
It's punched the water.
Ali shows that's not true.
Do you want to take advice from someone
knows how to swim?
Just punch it?
Or do you want to take advice from a dozen?
Do you punch vertical or horizontal?
Do you think I know what the difference is?
It's all uppercuts.
It's all uppercuts.
So I plank and just punch down and I'll float.
Or am I on the ground standing punching out?
I think with enough force, you create enough momentum.
It propels you.
It pulls you up.
Okay.
All right.
New technique.
Going to try it out.
It's basic.
It's physics.
Haymakers.
They get you further.
Basic physics.
I'm ready.
Let's move on.
Ready to learn.
Before Koi stops learning.
All right.
Thank you for the education, Danny.
Ray Torres, thank you for chiming in.
Hey, everyone.
Hope y'all, I hope you all have a great weekend.
I got nothing to ask this week, so just take my money.
That's right.
Much love.
Love to hear it.
Appreciate you being here, though, buddy.
Thank you.
Thanks for the contribution, man.
Hell yeah, right.
That's really nice.
All right.
Silhouetted animators back again.
My guess on Jared Padalecki and Misha Collins' characters.
That's right.
A lot of people in the chat were pointing out.
Misha Collins, Castiel, will be in the boys season five as well.
Mr. Marathon, Jared, and Jack from Jupiter, Misha.
Boys readers, what do you say?
I'm looking them up.
I don't know.
I didn't get that far into the boys' comics.
Charlie Flicks' Fix is crying in the chat.
I haven't read them since then alone.
The boys' comics are just so, like, a little too mean-spirited.
They're so mean.
I like to it.
Yeah.
I'm like, this is not, there's no, I need a little bit of heart here.
This is just so mean.
Yeah, it's really like angry.
And it's like, it's mad at the world and the audience and that's really hard.
I liked them at the time, but I haven't been able to reread them.
So I'm not sure who I'd cast for them.
Because it's been like 20 years.
So Mr. Marathon and the lore is the original speedster for the seven before A train took over.
And Jack from Jupiter is, he is a major member of the seven who looks like an alien.
orange skin no nose oh i remember him yeah he's on a bunch of covers and he's human
but no compound v oh that's fun i like that for misha collins well it says for this he's a major
member of the boys so it would be cool to get a unused character for this final season member of the
character of the boys yeah that'd be fun yeah good guesses all around i like it and they didn't
show him misha collins so it's actually not a bad guess and i could act from looking at those
expressions, I could see that be, Misha Collins.
Hopefully, we'll see.
Silhouette animator goes on
to say, even if Homelander is
silencing Ryan
as theorized, Marie Moreau
could resurrect him.
Maybe the challenge there is how much
damage Homelander did.
Dot, dot, da, do we...
There is no, like, Marie Monroe in this
trailer. I thought we
get a little bit. I mean, they have to appear in here
considering the ending of the... I feel
like that would be smart to actually show them, or I don't know, one or two ways. You show them
and it might make people feel like, I don't want to make the time to watch Gen B. So should I
watch the boys? Will I be lost? Or would it make people go, oh, I should watch Gen B before the
boys, you know? I don't really know which direction would be the smart way to do it. I like the
world building of the Gen V, but we're comic people. I don't know if it'll suit the day-to-day person.
That's fair. But it seems like there'll be a big part of it. Whenever people say you need
watch this before Marvel movie, the loudest people go homework, but I never know if they're the
outliers or that's how people feel. I think it's how people feel. People don't like doing
homework already. But like it's watching a move. Like it's a fun, it's an, the activity itself by
nature is enjoyment. I know. But it does, I create a pressure. It does turn something enjoyable
into something more complicated. Yeah. And something that requires you to structure it out over time and
be good at planning and, you know, then you are
doing it. And if you've started something
and you're like, oh, I needed to see that and I didn't, that feels
unfun. Yeah, that's true.
All right. What else we got?
All right. Screw the system.
Jonathan's here to talk to us. Thanks for chiming in.
Thanks, Jonathan. You guys should reach out to the
H3 people for live streaming tips. Best in the game.
Let's get all Ethan on the horn.
Yeah, let's just talk to one of the biggest channels out there.
Yeah, why not?
it's fair advice
I'm sure they would have great advice
I'm sure they have like a whole team
that's usually what a lot of these live stream teams
have there's a whole live stream team
surrounding them where they don't think about these
things but you know we're a lot we're
we're still here we're building it
one off camera employee yeah
but you know
we'll see what we can do
that's the I was going to say that's the shirt I want to
design just like
Alan's standing alone
if you wearing a shirt that says
off-camera employee in big block text.
This is my off-camera uniform.
Sebastian Yunn's, thanks for chiming into the chat.
What's better than a stream on Friday?
A stream on Thursday!
Love you guys.
Paramount back in the running to buy WB.
I thought it was SSD Stevie Wonder.
I don't think it's going to happen.
The Paramount thing?
Ted Sarandos is pretty,
he seems very concrete on the idea of that's not going to happen.
Yeah.
I mean,
it sounds like some things you get out of his control,
but ultimately I feel like that has to be his decision, right?
I don't really know how some of this works.
I don't know how many of business.
I mean, to that scale,
when they say billions,
I'm like,
no one really wins.
The audience won't really win.
What would you wrap if you had to choose an evil to go with?
Netflix or Paramount,
Which is the one?
Comcast universe.
Between the two.
Paramountly seems to care about theatrical,
but they really do want their streaming service to go bigger.
They can't just have a bunch of Dexter shows.
They need the...
They got those like really...
They got those like Landman.
Yeah, I was going to say,
they got all the alt-right shows.
Yeah.
Which look really cool.
They do well.
Are they like alt-right shows?
Or do they just happen?
to get the all right audience more because of where that's a fair question yeah and what they're
drawn to like do i watch tulsa king and go you're pushing right wing values my way or is it i happen
like a masculine energy yeah like i saw the landman trade that's this dad core and it just happens
to appeal to a lot of right leaning that's what i'd like to think like i hope that's the thing but
i haven't seen any of it i'm watched landman trailers like this show looks cool i'm not like i'm gonna
you know suddenly i hate everything
ruin around me um well i mean that that has been a thing too is like stuff like that and like there
was that whole period where um what was it 1923 or whatever the other version of that show is with
kevin coster was like the biggest thing for a minute there i really like Taylor sheridan so i i'd like
to think it's it's the positive side of that um but i think paramount has a lot of benefits for
the theatrical experience i worry about one channel owning that much of the news media like i'm more
worried about that element than anything, but then, you know, Netflix has promised they want to do
theatrical. And I do think buying Warner Brothers would be a way for them to have an entire theatrical
side without having to like learn how to start it. Like they'd just jump into it. So I think
Netflix would actually do more theatrical than people fear. One can hope. One can hope. They should just
have a Netflix theater. That way they can still reap the profits. They do. They own the Egyptian
theater. Yeah. And a couple others. They should know, they should just buy AMC.
Then boom.
They already got the colors.
Just changed the letter.
If they bought a major cheater
theater chain,
then you got one job
taking care of right there.
Another monopoly.
By the,
reopen all the arc lights.
Stack them up.
Reopen all the arc lights
and make them Netflix.
The Netflix Cinerama Dome.
But then we might start getting
some of those TV shows
which I want bad.
And Stranger Things getting released
in theater is also a good sign.
It would be cool.
We'll see.
Let's move on now.
Thank you.
It's almost as if they recognize
the opportunity to make cold hard cash
the old-fashioned way
instead of like guessing over watch time and view count.
Almost.
Jose, don't worry about it.
Back in action, thank you for chiming.
And again, do you think the hand-washing scene
from Woman of Tomorrow makes it into the movie?
Coy's son, it's been six months.
I don't remember what he was talking about.
Hand-washing scene from that.
I remember major plot points
and main issues.
Oh, that is a cute scene in the bathroom.
um it's innocuous enough i could see that being a nice little moment of levity uh it's it's a it's a moment
where she teaches ruthy how to wash her hands because she grows up in such an impoverished place she
doesn't know how she doesn't know the purpose like oh god she doesn't know why oh wow i don't
remember it's a really beautiful moment of levity but it's also super heartfelt it's like really
powerful it's only three pages but yeah it's it's um i think it makes it in that's an important
enough moment you need those human tender moments they make them the world a difference especially
with alien like you want those things to feel like oh wow this is and it also shows like the
world she comes from which changes like the perspective on the father and everything he did for
her father's a rock farmer like it's a very rough world so i love this scene thank you for reminding
me that but yes i think that makes it in good calls and thanks for the quickness john trying to get
you a visual aid yeah it's not relevant anymore it came to me i got it i got there all right
but i appreciate the hustle yeah absolutely okay trying to
this from three and a half to two and a half out
can it be done
we're on track
for the most part we're having another
live at like 1140 but yeah
silhouetted animator and then we'll do a refresh
checked stream labs come back
the ocean will be polluted and the ocean
will blame the deep
oily fish shot
I definitely think the fish
realized that he's been corrupted
the deep has to die
yeah he's too pretty
he has to die or he'll carry on
in Gen V3
Do you think the boys' universe will carry on well without homelander, though?
I don't know, because I really enjoyed GenVe season one.
I didn't enjoy GenV season two as much as I wanted to.
I don't know what that means for like those other spinoffs.
Like, is it a one pop or is it once it goes away, are we all like...
They should just enter the multiverse.
Yeah.
A lot of other show.
There's other superhero commentary shows.
You should enter the Watchman world.
Yeah.
That'd be fun.
Rochack and the...
The deep just hanging out.
Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg actually just made a show in the boys' universe.
And he was like the star of it.
I'd watch that.
Woodwatch of the studio crossover.
Yeah, that would be crazy.
We're going to do a refresher?
Seth Rogen, come on the show.
That's a good theory, man.
And we're going to check.
I hate all the torturing animals that show does it.
It's rough, but they know you makes you feel.
Like it works, but it's rough.
All right.
Sometimes it is really funny, though.
All right.
All good.
With the stream labs.
Hooray.
This mind's hurting a little bit.
Oh, right.
Oh, we got a handful.
I'm just going to...
Oh, we got a bottle.
Oh, boy.
You son of a bitch.
Look at this guy.
Oh, you clever duck you.
Yeah, I thought you were factory those things because I was like,
really?
15? Where's the 20 coming on?
All right.
Stefan, Stephen.
Thank you for chiming in, kicking us off
on the stream lab front.
Heard a wild theory this week with Avengers end game
having no post-credit scene previously
that they are going to put one on it
to set up Doomsday
when it is in theaters in September?
Do you think this could be true?
Love from the Hugh.
I hope not.
I've heard the same.
I don't like that idea at all.
Well, what if Tony Stark was the most important person
to Dr. Doom?
Avengers to remind you about that.
So frankly, if they have got Downey
acting like Iron Man in the preview of the chairs,
we need to remind people.
I know how to fix this. This limited rule
Police will solve all our problems.
With a post-credit scene.
Oh, that's a terrible idea.
That's what I'm hearing.
I really don't want them to do that.
Well, it's the best way to negate the importance of phase five and six.
It might just do some special preview.
I like the idea of it being more of a direct sequel to end game in some ways.
But then it's all the phase four and five.
But then it doesn't make sense of all the phase four or five characters that are like.
It really, I'm worried, man.
It's a weird thing.
But that's all rumors.
It's not nothing.
It's all rumors.
I've just,
I've heard that as well.
So say it's a sequel to end game.
Was that something the Rousseau's actually said?
I haven't heard that.
I heard about this post-credit scene,
but I haven't heard that end-game sequel.
I can't wait to have eggs later.
It's what, eight days till a week now,
a week until it drops.
So they strongly suggest
is being framed as a direct continuation end game
because the Rousseau brothers
stopped watching Marvel movies after they made a game.
I don't want to do the 20 hours.
I don't want to watch them.
I don't want to do a whole work.
You want me to watch Wanda Vision before I make a show with Wanda in it?
It's too much.
No.
Just not put Wanda in it.
It's just not.
I don't know.
I don't know what that's going to mean, but it's a week until Avatar, which means
theoretically a week until the trailer.
They're going to bring Doom back because Thanos is back.
Yeah.
Because it's a sequel to End Game.
It's just the end game scene is Iron Man.
He snaps.
He dies.
A variant comes in, sees the gold mask, goes, now not silver, puts it on Doom.
He looks in the camera and says same mask, same task.
More of a tin man than an iron man.
What else we got?
All right.
In fact, how about we do this?
I'm going to read these by user.
So let's continue with Stephen.
All right, Stephen.
And really hack the system here.
And then we'll do all the Damanis and all the DMVs and all that stuff.
That's clever man.
Yeah, clever man.
Watch that trailer.
Stefan goes on to say, loved.
The Supergirl and Boys trailer.
How was Kill Bill the whole bloody affair?
Already reviewed it. Sorry, I should have read that.
For me, Cinema at its best, I rewatched Kill Bill Volume 1 Monday and didn't hit the same for me after the whole bloody affair.
We literally said all those things.
Honestly, it was my favorite movie theater experience I've had all year.
It reminded me of my love for the movies.
It really, really reminded me that, like, just getting my popcorn.
It's because I've been on a diet for, I was on that diet all year.
Yeah.
I checked my points on my AMC app.
I had like $100 worth because I just never fucking bought concessions.
Oh, that's awesome.
So I was like, whoa, I got so much money for, because I, all year, I just didn't buy concessions.
So I just kind of went awog wild on like a bunch of popcorn and nachos and shit.
And I was like, this is the desk.
Because I didn't go on 70 millimeter.
I wanted the recline seats because it was, right?
I saw the same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The amount of recline seats of how long we were going to be there.
And I was like, this is just the.
I had such a good time too.
And the audience was great because they're like cinefiles.
Respectful.
Yeah.
No one took a phone out the entire fucking movie.
It was amazing.
I had a good time.
Who's next?
Hell yeah.
All right.
Here we go.
We're out to Dan V.
900.
Gonna run through all the Dan Vs.
I liked the Supergirl trailer, but I didn't love it.
The trailer doesn't sell me.
It doesn't sell how it's true grid and space and it's somber.
On the same page.
The song felt too upbeat and makes you think of Guardians of the Galaxy where I hope totally it's closer to the comic would have preferred a score over a song.
Me too.
wish there was an, like, there's a, there's a certain sound to space music that you get in,
like, the Watchman space scenes or interstellar. I kind of wanted something that felt cosmic.
Like, that's the problem, makes a problem with that. It doesn't feel cosmic. I'm curious
if the first trailer does that, like, it pivots, but I'm really curious, like, what their marketing
is going to be. Even Guardians 3 felt more cosmic in its first trailer.
Guardians 3 definitely had, like, ominous tones. Yeah, we needed that. Oh, God damn.
but damn when you slow it down
when you slow it down without hearing it
it's fucking beautiful
it's funny the different experience we had
slow-mo silent
just looking but yeah
which is the closer
of the probably the movie right
like a marketing is gonna throw a poppy song on it
what next we got
Dan V goes on to say
number two
Terminator questions
sorry let me make sure that's on screen
all right first
have you heard of the
Terminator 2D
No Fate game out tomorrow.
No.
Looks awesome as a side scroller
where you play through T2 as Sarah,
Future John, and the T-800.
There's alternate levels and endings
like Sarah killing Dyson, leading to her in
2029. Oh, that's fun.
Second,
can I just read this, John?
Yeah, go. Thanks, buddy.
What would you do for that next Terminator film?
I'd go back to basics with a low,
mid-budget horror film, like the first.
Don't think I'd include John, since I'd like the
different settings, Terminator Zero, and
current comic with the Terminator after others.
I think
I would just remake it.
From the jump? Just remake Terminator.
Yep.
Call it Genesis with an eye.
Bold.
Get someone who's just as good as
who has just as much
like intensity as Michael Bean.
Ben Foster.
Like a Jai Courtney.
Yeah, dude. He's perfect.
So much pressure behind those eyes.
That's my John Conner.
He's not a laxadaisical Australian
that should play boomerang.
That game sounds cool.
I think it would be cool
to actually have a monumental Terminator game.
I don't know what I would do
for another Terminator film
other than wanting a good commentary piece.
But really, you know, Terminator,
the commentary is a part of the DNA
when really the...
Terminator is, I think,
that's one of those movies
that even if you don't care about the commentary,
you will love the experience
of just as an action movie and intensity
whereas like compared to the Matrix
which is similar in theme and story
you kind of need to get on board with the commentary
to really enjoy what this film
is. You know what I mean? So I think
going back to basics in some way is a way to do it. I was going on to
Terminator binge. We guys would be watched the Terminator movie
yeah. Couldn't finish Genesis. I got halfway through
dark fate and I was like this is not good and
I haven't started the Sarah Connor Chronicles just to see
what it was like and I was like it was actually kind of a cool
concept yeah that was i'll like that show i was surprised by like how quickly i got on board with lena
hetty and whoever plays john connor is way better than everyone else who played john connor
after i would refer along i'd be curious if uh terminator three if they went right off t2 if
it would feel kind of like running man where it was like it's kind of just the present like
i don't know if you could make an a i commentary sky net thing now yeah just like with the running
man i was like let's just today doesn't feel like a commentary
It feels like a documentary.
Yeah.
So I don't know if Terminator would work
because by the time it came out,
like between now and 2028,
I think we're already like cooked.
So I don't know if we can make a movie fast enough
to get ahead of the thing that is SkyNet.
Do you know what I mean?
Like we've got robots walking around West Hollywood.
That's fair.
I don't know.
We just enter a prompt to find out what we could do.
Yeah, yeah.
Let us know AI.
Chad G.
What should the new Terminator be?
It's a movie that's saying that the Terminators are the heroes.
Skynet.
Right, Skynet.
All right, all right.
Let's jump into some of DeMani's thoughts on here.
Got a whole rack of DeMonis.
Rack of Demonty.
I got this.
Okay, John, just read it all as one giant monologue.
Copy that.
All right, let me get it, just to make sure it's visible on screen.
Okay, but you have to read each one as a different impression.
Oh, no.
Of someone, you choose the impressions.
Um, okay.
Big Super
Big Supergirl fan
Need to read The Woman of Tomorrow
But seen all the animations
Read the comics
And loved the CW show
The trailer didn't wow me
And I'm concerned
It won't do well
At box office ways
But excited
Truly Millie is great
Is that your Gerard Butler
It's trying to be
It's never good though
That's great
I was able to tell who it was
What are you talking about
The Black Raiders are
as a queer by person of color
Supergirl appeals to me
but will it appeal to straight
bros? No offense
Patrick Bateman. When most recent
woman comic book movie
shows don't do as well
See now I'm falling into Bateman
Super Man did too and even
Who are you doing? I was trying to
I haven't listened to Nick Offerman and talk in a while
Oh I can hear that. I'll have it in my random access
Superman didn't do amazing
So I worry if this will not match Superman or does worse
Actually, now I hear it really well
I want DC to do well
Okay, okay
We're not doing them all, so sorry
Would you have crypto go back to Superman and Man of Tomorrow
If Kara isn't in it
Or both Kara and Crypto and Man of Tomorrow
I'm glad Supergirl looks different
Than Superman
But wish it didn't seem like Guardians
which I wasn't a fan of personally.
Millie and Lobo are great.
Very much on the same page.
You can see why these are our dedicated fans
where they share similar opinions as us.
They keep coming back.
And then it makes us think everyone has this opinion.
And then when people hate us, we're like,
what the hell?
People are doing this so much.
I love to see W. Supergirl,
even though she's less comics, accurate,
and more like Clark.
What are your thoughts on it?
I loved the blue heat vision
to show blue fire, how hot it is.
Isn't Carras stronger than cow in the comics?
it varies based on versions and most people just want to see the terminators
i remember that from the interviews
christian male was trying to sell it and not tell people that it's a bad movie
yeah yeah yeah this is the film i just remember
back in 2023 most people wanted full
hold on the fucking grid is fucking all right
most people wanted a reboot a full reboot
of DC instead of a soft
one with what we
have gotten here so far
it's working for me
but as a comics reader
it never bothered me
going from uncanny X-Men to new
X-Men as an example
is it working for you guys
well
Grace Randolph
who you hate
I kid has theorized for years
the boys might end with Homeland or
losing his powers instead of dying
All right, so we moved on.
Okay, hold on.
Let me ship pause.
So we did all Supergirl.
It was a lot.
All right, Supergirl.
With all that context,
you sound like you share the same mind as us.
Pretty much you've echoed all of our same opinions, right?
I don't really know how much more to add to what you just said there.
Is there something you wanted to add?
Well, there are questions in there?
I feel like that was a question after the second one that I wanted to at least acknowledge.
Oh, Superman made a lot of money.
Superman, like, made $100 million plus in profit.
So I feel like the, depending on what,
which corner of the internet you listen to is the perception of the superman, but it did very
well. And as far as Supergirl, I don't know box office. I don't know cost. I don't know those
things. But that's what I wanted. That's what it was. I'm a mostly straight guy and I like Supergirl
a lot. Like, I don't think you need to be a bisexual, anything, male, woman, other, to
appreciate the character. I don't know if that character is more of an appeal to a certain
demographic as much as it's not usually written as a diverse character. I find that
Supergirl, as long as she's written specifically, she's a great character. The problem becomes
when you just write Supergirl as Girl Superman, which is this is very much not doing. So I think
the problem that we've been having in media and adapting female characters is we aren't letting
them be their own entities. Like my big problem with the Marvels is there's three leads in that
film that feel like they wrote one character and split them into three and let each do what their
task was like no one's multifaceted if they're all playing one thing as a unit i don't think that works
whereas this is a character like she feels fully lived in and fleshed out so i'm not worried about
the straits i guess the bigger question is if you're not a comic book fan is this going to appeal
to you and i honestly think the answer is going to be no i don't feel like if unless you're
already invested in this is more when people over which i don't think the trailer does that job
but maybe to the masculine point too i mean maybe that's why they threw lobo in there honestly
That's a really good point.
It's a hyper masculine character.
Maybe that's maybe that's why they should get crem the way crem is in the comic.
Yeah.
Graham is very, like, masculine, evil, you know.
That's a good point.
Yeah, Lobo, I mean, Moa might bring, I mean, Aquaman had made a billion dollars.
I mean, Lobo is, is an iconic character.
Right.
Even if you don't really know the character, you've seen him.
You know of Lobo.
Yeah.
He's cracked the zeitgeist, and he's never had a theatrical appearance.
Yeah. I guess Supergirl might be stronger than, I love that blue heat vision to show Blue Fire.
that's what he's talking about
but I don't know
I feel like they've kind of be equal
and strength it would be kind of cool
to see the different types of fighting style
I imagine she'd be a little bit
of a better fighter than
yeah and she's also like
more adept at her powers I imagine
right yeah so yeah
it all depends on who's writing it
and did you have an X-Men question
that anybody asked
sorry there was also a question
in here about
crypto returning to Superman
I don't know what's happening to me
John did too many voices
of tomorrow.
John broke if Kara isn't in man of tomorrow,
or do you think both of them will be in man of tomorrow?
I think Kara will be a man of tomorrow.
I think especially with Brainiac coming in.
Yeah, I agree.
I think there'll definitely be elements of
Kryptonian heritage that are informing Brainiac,
and I think they'll need Kara for those elements.
So I think she'll be in it.
I think it would suck if she's not in it.
Especially after we're probably going to fall in love with her.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it would be wise to keep her in it.
And it's not an earthbound story,
so it be a cool way to have her on Earth.
Yep.
I agree.
Absolutely.
All right.
We got a couple more from Dan.
No, DeMani, sorry.
The Grace Randolph question.
Grace Randolph, who you hate, I kid, has theorized for years.
The boys.
I was clarifying that.
They're trying to start drama.
Yeah.
Grace Randolph has theorized for years.
The boys might end with Homeland or losing his powers instead of dying.
do you want that or prefer him dying?
No GenVee people in the trailer worries me, especially Marie.
She should be there.
DeMani goes on to say...
I would say really quick to answer that.
I prefer he dies instead of losing his powers.
I don't want to...
I think that's a cop out.
I agree.
He should die.
Yeah, I want stakes, but I also want villains to last.
But in that case, we need stakes.
He should die or he should win.
And our hero should die.
I don't mind a cynical ending.
Here and there, yeah.
Because then you carry on Jen V and you really raise a steak.
Homelander's going to carry on.
But yeah, what's the next one?
It's also such a cynical comic.
Like, maybe some cynicism.
I agree.
I don't know. I feel like if Homelander lost his powers,
it would just lead to a lifetime of suffering,
which is very mean and appropriate.
That's true. That's true.
To make him a human?
You know, and then, yeah,
and he's got to live as the thing he despises the most.
That's fair.
That's a good point. That's a really good point.
All right.
I wanted to get my flowers.
Grace Randall.
I, I, yeah.
Moving on, we got.
Last one from Demoni.
Just Got Killed. Bill tickets for the AMC Lincoln Square here in New York City.
Biggest IMAX in the world.
70 millimeter, we talked about this a couple streams ago.
Trying to figure out which the biggest one was.
Because of you guys' recommendation.
Haven't seen it since I was a kid with my mom.
One of my favorites of all time.
I'm going to watch is 70 millimeter IMAX.
Wow, I'm jealous of that.
That's, yeah, that's really rad.
I mean, what the shitty part is for the length.
I have become the person who has adjusted to it.
I want the recliner.
Yeah.
When you said it,
I was like,
that is a really good note for a five-hour movie.
It's like four and a half.
It's crazy.
But when it,
yeah,
I mean,
just sitting though in an IMAX.
But like three hours for one battle,
I'm excited to do it.
I think it's the fourth hour.
Yeah.
I mean,
the intermission does help.
Still.
But still.
I want the lounge experience.
Yeah,
I want when it's like one battle I want 70 millimeter
with the right frame.
Like,
I want that whole thing.
But something like 2001, I'd recline my ass off.
Like, it depends on the movie's tone.
Yeah.
See, I've got to be a little uncomfortable for this stuff.
He's the big recliners and stuff.
I'm there for like four hours.
Like, that's going to make me sleepy.
I need the uncomfortable chair to keep me awake.
It depends on my level of engaged because I'm not here to lounge and fall asleep.
Fair.
All right.
I did get a coffee during kill bill.
It's true.
You don't put up your, when we get those lounge seats.
don't see you put up your feet and stuff.
Not often, sometimes, when it's a shorter movie, maybe.
Oh, man, you're right about it.
Why isn't he taking a baby?
A comfy boy.
I think it's distracting.
It's weird.
It's kind of distracting.
Like, now I'm in a different, I don't associate it with a movie theater the same way, you know?
I bring a blanket.
You're an I pick, boy.
I bring my eye mask.
I bring mouth tape.
I bring no strips.
I bring my CPAP machine.
People tell me what happened in the movie after.
I got a whole experience.
I watch a recap.
Read headphones.
During the movie, I watched Rieke.
Where are the peanuts?
Oh, we're not flying.
Best sleep, there we get.
That's crazy.
All right, let's go back down to the bottom and work our way back up to the top.
We got Steven.
Thanks, David.
We got Jake H movies with a couple of contributions here.
Hey, Mother Effer.
I need to hear your name again.
Jake H.
All right, let me make sure that you're on screen here because it's hard to do that.
All right.
So Jake starts.
by saying Supergirl
trailer looks awesome. Probably the
most excited I've been for a superhero
since the Batman.
Love the show and so happy I got to
catch it live finally. Oh, us.
Thank you.
That's true. Supergirl's not a show. Thank you.
Yeah, and then Jake goes
on to say, would y'all be
interested in reacting to the 1984
Supergirl movie before the new one comes out?
That is something I have considered as
doing. I've never seen it. I think that'd be really fun.
Yeah. I hear it's really good.
heard it's very good
and funny and colorful
apparently. I hear it's the best installment of the Superman
movies. Oh man, I'm so ready. That's why they made so many.
Yeah. Supergirl 8, Quest for Not
Peace is legendary.
I think it would be fun to do that though.
I've never seen a trailer. I know nothing. That's great.
I've heard it's amazing. And then the Roger
Corman Fantastic Four after that.
All right. After Jake, we
have Tommy. Tommy 1017.
Not just any Tommy. Part one and two.
Part one.
Would you guys like the DCU, two, instead of doing a big buildup and lots of movies,
until we get Darkside, the grid's fucking stuff up for me again?
All right.
Uh, sorry.
Until we get Darkside.
Follow a similar path as the DC animated universe, where we get Darkside early,
and the league has to get together to beat him.
Part two, we can then build up after the first Darkside battle and go through solo arcs for certain characters,
but knowing in the background that we're just waiting and,
building to his return.
I think dark side's too similar to
Thanos and the Marvel Stiff.
I don't think we're going to do Dark Side at all.
No, no.
Or not at all, but not in the same way.
I think he's an inevitability.
Like Thanos.
Yes.
But yeah, I don't see that.
I haven't even like thought.
I don't even think about like the main villain thing anymore.
Yeah, I don't think they want to structure it around the main villain.
I think that we will have Dark Side, but not in the same format.
Because that's where we're at now with these movies.
We're like, we just need to get back to good movies.
Right.
and we need to we need to do something because the problem with superhero is exactly what's kind of implied in the title it has to be a good guy versus a bad guy and the good guy will win so somehow it inevitably seems like it falls into a similar structure no matter how different you do it a lot of the time and we need to get to some type of different form of storytelling yeah of it because ultimately it's probably going to be the same thing here right you know like i like the ending of
a woman of tomorrow a lot because it's weird and different but if they don't do the narration
method then it won't work then it's just a typical fucking thing you know you can't do that story yeah so
we need to we need to like mix it up in some way i think like i think we dance spoilers i i really think
when when marble when everything really went started going wrong what i really think it was when it was when
King lost in Quantummania.
Yeah, yeah, it was an endgame.
Everybody's like, oh, everything, no, people were so excited after Endgame.
It's not like it was...
People say it peaked, but it's like, no, that's not what?
It was because he lost in Quantumania.
Yeah. Imagine the different trajectory it would have taken if
Ant Man lost, maybe Hope dies.
Killed Ant Man.
Or kills Ant Man?
We're in a whole different territory right now.
And I think Endgame was obviously the peak of the culmination, but it wasn't when
Marvel peaked.
Like, I think they could have carried on.
Yeah.
no definitely no way
and people fucking say that
like no way home came out after
everyone always forgets that
like a Pete don't like
no way home it's just as big
and it didn't have 10 year lead up
it had like a 20 year lead up and it didn't
yeah a lot of different things
and one division was a phenomenon
when it first came out and so it was Loki season
one like so people constantly say
them like no there were
there were massive things that came out after
revisionist history is crazy
the pandemic didn't help the strike didn't help
but everybody just lumps it in
Yeah, it's kind of weird.
And what are you going to do?
The internet, not full of sane.
All right, all right, all right.
I think we're almost caught up on the stream labs.
We got Wesley Marshall.
Oh, we got Jaden de Rosier.
We got Tommy in there.
Let's go to Jaden.
Jaden, thank you for chiming in.
Hey.
Hey.
Just want to say I love the channel.
Been watching the rejects since I was in middle school grade 7.
Oh, thanks, man.
I'm now 24 and engaged.
Crazy to see how far the channel has come.
Crazy to see how far you've got, Dayton.
Keep it up, rejects.
Love you all.
I lost my virginity in grade seven.
I'm not they're going to say on the channel my first girlfriend.
Oh!
It was actually grade five.
Nice.
Yeah.
I touched myself.
myself. I want
you to... Wesley Marshall!
I'm also slightly
hesitant, but not to chime in
and we appreciate that, with it feeling
like guardians, but agree
with you folks that we'll see its full
majesty later. Also, the cinematographer
on this is also doing
Clayface, so I'm very curious
what that will look like.
Who's a cinematographer on this? I remember someone
bitching. Who is it? Someone...
Oh, their last work was crazy
good. It's not going to come to me.
It's just like Matt, whatever his name.
Rob Hardy.
You know, it's wild.
Ex Machia.
What else was he done?
He's Alex Garland's guy.
The more, did he do Civil War?
Yes.
Beautiful.
Yes.
Annihilation.
If bigger movies in
embraced unique cinematography,
that would change it.
Every.
So fucking much.
Look at Greg Frazier.
Like, the way Dune looks,
the way the Batman looks.
No one thought the Batman could possibly
Everyone was kind of upset about the bat.
We were transfixed.
Remember when we watched it?
We were both like,
this is so beautiful.
Do you remember when the Batman was announced?
It was like, okay, we're not getting Ben Affleck.
We just already had the Dark Night.
We're getting another Batman reboot.
Then the trailer comes out and are like,
oh my God, this is everything I want.
Higher the DPs that are, like this dude.
A DP can change, a proper cinematographer can change everything.
And back-to-back Clayface and this, that is exciting.
I remember I looked him up and he was Alex Carlton's guy
and I got excited.
That's what it was.
You know, in order for this to happen, we've got to start shooting things actually in camera a little bit.
No, shut up.
John, what are you talking about?
You don't know anything.
All righty.
I mean, they have digital cinematographer too, but anyway, Ronan Unchained.
Deacon shot Rango.
That's true.
Deacon shot the hell out of Rango.
He did.
Look at the camera really quick, coy.
And move away from the mic.
There we go.
You're in trouble with you.
All right, Ronan Unchained.
What's up, Muchachos.
That's not how we said it.
He said,
What's up, machos?
Hey, what's up,
that Supergirl teaser is glorious.
Millie is perfect as Kera.
Just finished reading A Woman of Tomorrow, man, last night.
It's a beautiful book.
Go read Warshak Comics.
They should have adapted.
Keep up good work and happy holidays.
Give it up for John.
Good cliche, everybody.
Making me a crave Taco Belt.
In a very problematic feat of cast.
I once played a Hispanic character
professionally for money, so
you know, some of that.
So the guy plays Bill's father.
Who's the guy who's the guy plays Bill's
pimp father? He's also the
Caldwell. Oh, my Michael Parks.
Michael Parks. Oh, yeah! A lot of people don't know that, but it's
Michael Parks. Which is crazy
that he's got two very different roles. And no one's
ever bitched about it. He's playing a full
like Mexican guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did the makeup, fucking, did the makeup in the whole voice?
Yeah.
Turned to it didn't bother to hire an Mexican guy.
I read the credits that I was like.
He just fucking was like, I'm going to get Michael Parks.
We killed him in the first one.
We bring him back.
Wow.
Bill.
Michael Parks in any way, Hispanic.
I'm Googling this.
Oh, man.
No.
It just is no.
He is a white American board act.
Wow.
And everyone was like fucking last.
That was cool, good job.
Do what you got to do.
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
It's hilarious.
Okay.
And are we caught up?
Do we do it?
Ronan approves.
Ronan approves.
He allows.
He passes.
I think we got like a super sticks and then we're good.
We've got a couple of things to wrap up the super's and we'll be groovy Tuesday.
All, three hours.
Hey, man.
We started, what time?
1140?
11.30.
We're better than, let.
1137?
hey
12 seven
three hours Greg
I thought we'd beat it this time
no we did not
we did two stories
we did two stories
it's how long the show is
just destined to be a
three hour experience
every episode is Lord of the Rings
that's the goal
oh it's three
hey they're thriving
communities of four hour
Alex Smithy
Charles Flicks
thank you for being here every week
and supporting us
our views also went up
at two hours. So I get it. It's what the audience wants. It's what they demand.
Look at this cute little guy. Look at cheddar there. We got some hearts from Alan Smithy,
and we got some blushy love from Charlie's Flix Fix, who is holding it down in the chat
lusting after you lovely gents. Thank you. We love to see it.
I think they like seeing us break, Greg. I think they like seeing the atrophy.
Thank you guys so much. We did it. Two stories. Three guys. I don't think we'll be your next
because I highly doubt they'll release the Doomsday trailer that day.
I feel like they will release it sometime between Tuesday through Thursday.
So we'll do it live then?
I think it'll be Thursday.
I think it'll be Thursday.
Because I think they wanted to play in the theaters first.
Comes out Thursday though.
Avatar.
Yeah, so they want it to play in the theaters first.
Right?
When would it come out then?
I think the best way to do it is let's go to this we'll figure out.
Let's see if I'll see my theory stands clear.
Let's go to Avatar.
Showtimes.
Let's go Avatar New York.
Yeah, showtime.
Because that would be the way to figure it out
like in New York.
But they're gonna want to release it in the morning.
They usually go by East Coast.
Yeah, that's true.
Like, they're not gonna release a trailer at noon.
You don't know that.
All right.
It's not letting me go into my 50-mile radius.
AMC theaters, New York.
3,000 mile radius.
I can do this.
Don't worry, guys.
I don't want me to quiet.
I got this.
I got a handle.
Doot.
let's just go to the landmark is 3,109 miles away Thursday what time is your first
showing of avatar advanced tickets just tell us data just give us
this is why people want to go to the theaters too hard to find out of theater
3,000 miles away it's fucking hard to find it theater oh my god it's not showing
what time is the first showing holy shit just
Tell me the time of the first show.
I'm going to make sure we hit three hours.
Greg was like, we're not going to have three hours.
I'm going to make sure we have three hours.
Fucking Fandango right now.
He's on a dial-up.
He's right now.
He's pulling up his ass Jeeves.
He's just typing.
When is it Jeeves?
This is what we in show business called Fluff.
This is right here.
We're killing the game.
This is what John feels like
every time we need something,
but pulled up quick.
That's right.
Is your heart beating fast enough?
You feel the pressure of what's happening right now?
Are your fine motor skills?
We should all yell at Greg.
Positively or negatively.
Who knows?
Also do an accent.
3.30 p.m. is the first showing?
They're going to put it out, Greg.
It might be Friday.
Maybe.
I have plans with the misses.
Tuesday's not a big trailer.
We go live at like...
No one's going to watch.
Eight in the morning.
Yeah, what are your plans?
I can't be on Christmas with the misses because of a stranger things.
So we're going to go to do something.
If you're not going to do it at like 10 a.m.
Or maybe you will to Christmas.
Yeah, we were going to go to Disneyland.
Oh, that's cute.
Well, we'll probably
hopefully have an idea
of when the trailer comes out
before the actual day.
Hopefully.
So maybe we'll be here.
Yeah.
I could go to Disney
later.
Guys,
that's the level of priority
Greg has for you.
He's missing Christmas
and his made-up Christmas.
Channel.
It's important.
Two Christmases just negated
by pop culture.
I'm not doing Christmas until January.
You celebrated Christmas last year.
Yeah, you don't want to every year.
I'm doing Christmas in January
so I can be with.
you lovelies we're here thank you guys so much for being here i'm going to go grab a snack
now happy birthday everyone thanks coy thanks sean we did it again thanks all of you we'll see you
we'll see you some point next week some point all right yeah we did it we landed
We're going to be.
We're
We're
Thank you.
We're going to be.
I'm gonnae.
So,
I don't know.
I don't know.
So,
I'm sorry,
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
We're going to do.
I don't know.
We're going to be.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to be
I'm going to be.
I'm
So,
I'm sorry,
We're going to be.
I'm sorry.
We're going to be able to be.
We're going to be.
I'm sorry.
I'm
Thank you.
